From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 08:59:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QDxFkq032300 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:59:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F3FE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 9:58:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2900672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:58:27 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QDwRU28032 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:58:27 -0400 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4L00LHRDHEKU@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:58:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:59:49 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: [Fwd: Hunter shot in the foot by his dog] To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBA9FD5.2000400@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBA9A3E.9CF202E2@valstar.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Actually, I can see this happening. I wish I had time to get Vinnie out for a day of hunting. Today is perfect -- we've had a day of rain, so the ground is nice and wet and good for scenting. alyce cresap wrote: > HUNTER SHOT IN THE FOOT BY HIS DOG > By Associated Press, 10/25/02 > > BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. -- Pheasant season took an ugly turn for Michael > Murray when he was shot by Sonny, his year-old English setter pup. > > The puppy knew something was very wrong when Murray dropped to the > ground > with blood spurting from his ankle. "Sonny just laid by my side," Murray > said. "He knew something was bad." > > Murray, 42, was hunting in western South Dakota on the first day of the > season last Saturday. He said he was lining up a photo of the seven > birds > his hunting party shot in the first hour. > > A loaded 12-gauge shotgun lay on the ground near the frisky dog. > > "He stepped on the gun and it went off," Murray said. "At first I didn't > know what happened. I got that blinding flash of pain and I sat down. > Blood > was pumping out of my ankle." > > His brother-in-law, Chuck Knutson of Woodbury, quickly tied a tourniquet > above Murray's right boot. The third member of the hunting party was > Murray's father, also Michael, of New Richmond, Wis. > > "My dad's 75," Murray said, "He was white as a ghost." > > The three men climbed into their truck and drove to a relative's house. > A > half-hour later, an ambulance took Murray to a nearby hospital. > > After 15 stitches and a night in the hospital, Murray is on course for a > complete recovery. > > "It was the most bizarre thing that has ever happened to me," he said. > > Murray admits there is a certain amount of notoriety that goes along > with > getting shot by your dog. > > "That's the hard part, talking to people, because you feel like such a > fool," he said. > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 09:16:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QEG5kq032422 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:16:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096010@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:15:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2900896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:15:18 -0400 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QEFHU29157 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:15:17 -0400 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QEFHb20445 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:15:17 -0400 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g9QEEbv20481 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:14:38 -0400 Message-ID: <002d01c27cfa$052f7660$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DBA98DE.D8850820@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Bellesiles Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:14:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "alyce cresap" > For anyone who's interested, the report of the committee appointed by > Emory University to investigate the scholarship underlying Michael > Bellesiles' award winning book, "Arming America: The Origins of a > National Gun Culture" is available at: > > http://www.emory.edu/central/NEWS/Releases/Final_Report.pdf > > Although the report was written some time ago (July 10), and it was > known that Bellesiles appealed the decision, the decision itself was > just released along with the announcement of his resignation. > -- > alyce Thanks alyce, irrespective of the issue, I'll bet he has caused a great deal of embarrassment to many of his colleagues. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 09:56:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QEupkq032663 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:56:51 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096137@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:56:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2901634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:56:03 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QEk3U01926 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:46:03 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QEk2hA012603 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:46:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:46:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >They may read me my Miranda rights, but to what purpose? The Patriot Act >says that I do not have a right to cousel when required to produce >records on customers' reading habits. I am not talking about ignoring a >subpoena. I am talking about being able to have an attorney to advise >me. aluye, what sections or subsection of the act are you referring to? I cannot find sections saying that. (I examined USA PATRIOT Act as Passed by Congress Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act (Oct. 25, 2001) HR 3162 RDS 107th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 3162 IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES October 24, 2001.) Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 09:58:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QEvxkq032669 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:58:00 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096141@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:57:12 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2901654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:57:12 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QElCU02008 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:47:12 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QElBhA013002 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:47:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:47:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bellesiles In-Reply-To: <3DBA98DE.D8850820@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >http://www.emory.edu/central/NEWS/Releases/Final_Report.pdf Does anyone know whether there is an http version that does not have to be downloaded? Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:03:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QF3Zkq032716 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:03:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4289@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:02:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:02:47 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QF2lU03132 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:02:47 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust46.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.48]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:02:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAAF50.E73E707A@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:05:52 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > aluye, what sections or subsection of the act are you referring to? I > cannot find sections saying that. I cannot answer at once, but will try to find out chapter and verse for you. We booksellers all have been advised of this problem, and of course there has been at least one lawsuit over it (cf. Tattered Cover Bookstore in Denver). aluye From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:20:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFKUkq000418 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:20:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4328@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:19:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:19:42 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QF9gU03707 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:09:42 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QF9fhA019504 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:09:41 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAAF50.E73E707A@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >I cannot answer at once, but will try to find out chapter and verse for >you. We booksellers all have been advised of this problem, and of course >there has been at least one lawsuit over it (cf. Tattered Cover >Bookstore in Denver). Thanks, If you have a cite for the case, give me that also, please. And I will search for it in Lexis. With new legislation, there is always the problem that there is no way to be certain how the courts will interpret its language. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:27:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFRGkq000471 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:27:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4355@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:26:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:26:28 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFQSU04908 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:26:28 -0400 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021026152621.JKGA27756.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:26:21 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026081217.02bba910@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:19:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: References: <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany writes, >aluye, what sections or subsection of the act are you referring to? I >cannot find sections saying that. Perhaps this: "No person shall disclose to any other person (other than those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible things under this section." The ABFFE believes that you have the right to talk to an attorney in this situation, but also cautions, "If the agents are unwilling to permit you to contact your attorney, you should cooperate with them." The ALA says, "libraries can ask for permission to consult legal counsel (according to ALA). Permission may or may not be granted. Warrants cannot be stalled." Another problem with the Patriot Act is that it allows a FISA end run around the Fourth Amendment: "Section 218 ... permits the FBI to conduct a secret search or to secretly record telephone conversations for the purpose of investigating crime even though the FBI does not have probable cause of crime." (ACLU) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:34:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFY8kq000574 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:34:09 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F438B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:33:20 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:33:20 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFNKU04757 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:23:20 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QFNJhA024100 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:23:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:23:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAAF50.E73E707A@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The TATTERED COVER, INC. case has a complex legal history. On April 8, 2002, the Colorado S. Ct. decided (in the words of the syllabus): >>>SYLLABUS: This case involves an attempt by law enforcement officials to use a search warrant to gain access to the book-buying records of a suspected criminal. The petitioner, an innocent, third-party bookseller, asserts its own and its customers' First Amendment and Article II, Section 10 rights. The Supreme Court recognizes that both the United States and Colorado Constitutions protect the rights of the general public to purchase books anonymously, without governmental interference. As such, any law enforcement attempt to use a search warrant to discover which books that a customer has purchased from a bookstore implicates fundamental rights. The Supreme Court holds that the Colorado Constitution requires law enforcement officials to show a need for the specific customer [**2] purchase record sought that is sufficiently compelling to outweigh the harm likely caused to constitutional interests by execution of the search. The search warrant will issue only if this test, which is to be applied at a pre-seizure adversarial hearing, is met. Applying this balancing test, the Supreme Court concludes that the law enforcement need for the book purchase record in this case was not sufficiently compelling to outweigh the harm that would likely follow from execution of the search warrant, in part because law enforcement officials sought the purchase record for reasons related to the contents of the books that the suspect may have purchased.<<< But on April 29, 2002, after revising the opinion, the Court issued a final and unpublished opinion. (That usually means it cannot serve as precedent.) I wonder if someone has interpreted some of the language of the Act to mean that bit about consulting an attorney. As you have described it, it sounds unconstitutional, of course. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:35:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFZ7kq000586 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:35:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4394@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:34:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:34:19 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFYJU05420 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:34:19 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust46.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.48]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:34:18 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAB6B7.FFD378FA@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:37:27 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Bethany--Booksellers and privacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is actually part of FISA--Foreign Intelligence Security Act, which was incorporated into the Patriot Act, apparently. There is an article about it here: http://news.bookweb.org/freeexpression/679.html I don't have time to search to see the actual Act. But this will give you the gist of it. alyce ------------ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:37:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFbXkq000610 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:37:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F43A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:36:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:36:45 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFaiU05622 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:36:45 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust46.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.48]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:36:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAB749.69609CDD@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:39:53 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021026081217.02bba910@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > Perhaps this: "No person shall disclose to any other person (other than > those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) > that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought Thanks, Pete. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:40:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFeLkq000639 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:40:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F43CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:39:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:39:33 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFdXU05919 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:39:33 -0400 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021026153927.JSPY27756.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:39:27 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026082936.02b5dec0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:32:26 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Warrantless searches In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026081217.02bba910@mail.istori.com> References: <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Source: http://www.ccr-ny.org/whatsnew/usa_patriot_act.asp Furthermore, the Administration has made no secret of its hope that the judiciary will accede to its broad reading of the USA PATRIOT Act just as pliantly as Congress acceded to its broad legislative agenda. In a letter sent to key Senators while Congress was considering this legislation, Assistant Attorney General Daniel J. Bryant, of DOJ's Office of Legislative Affairs, openly advocated for a suspension of the Fourth Amendment's warrant requirement in the government's investigation of foreign national security threats. The Bryant letter brazenly declares: As Commander-in-Chief, the President must be able to use whatever means necessary to prevent attacks upon the United States; this power, by implication, includes the authority to collect information necessary to its effective exercise. . . The government's interest has changed from merely conducting foreign intelligence surveillance to counter intelligence operations by other nations, to one of preventing terrorist attacks against American citizens and property within the continental United States itself. The courts have observed that even the use of deadly force is reasonable under the Fourth Amendment if used in self-defense or to protect others. . . Here, for Fourth Amendment purposes, the right to self-defense is not that of an individual, but that of the nation and its citizens. . . If the government's heightened interest in self-defense justifies the use of deadly force, then it certainly would also justify warrantless searches. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:49:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFnskq000754 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:49:54 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F442D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:49:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:49:05 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4v7eaaVwehboF5G0EZzp1TQw0q8qGcEw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFd5U05887 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:39:05 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9622FDD8 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6B2797C26; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: WLM In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 26, 2002 0: 6:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:39:04 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026153904.6B2797C26@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > I went to a tantra class tonight and we learned all about pelvic > hinges. (I enjoyed the class a lot.) Yep, that's the other crucial one. I think someone should teach tantric Pilates. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:57:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFv3kq000807 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:57:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096330@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:56:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2903245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:56:15 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFkFU06701 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:46:15 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QFkEhA031296 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:46:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:46:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I said: >But on April 29, 2002, after revising the opinion, the Court issued >a final and unpublished opinion. (That usually means it cannot serve as >precedent.) I should have said: That ALWAYS means it cnnot serve as precedent. Th usual motive for issuing an unpublished opinioin is to insure that it canot serve as precedent. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 10:59:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QFxQkq000843 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:59:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4485@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:58:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2903331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:58:38 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFmcU06880 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:48:38 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QFmbhA032137 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:48:37 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:48:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026081217.02bba910@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Perhaps this: "No person shall disclose to any other person (other than >those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) >that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible >things under this section." One solution might be to have your attorney keep the records. Then you would HAVE to consult your attorney in order to comply. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:06:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QG6bkq000948 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:06:37 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F44C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:05:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2903541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:05:46 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QFtkU07594 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:46 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QFtjhA001951 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:55:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: the road to pilates Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My search for an appropriate pilates class was sidelined during my preparation for surgery, and it will stay on the sidelines for several more weeks. Meanwhile, I have continued my quest for a good class in a reasonably convenient location. When I went to my first post-surgery PT session on Thursday, I learned inadvertently that HealthSouth (connected to the Knoxville Orthopedic Clinic, who take care of all my bone problems) will begin classes in January. I think that will turn out to be my best choice - I will get more info next week. I am READY! Within 24 hours of surgery, I wanted to swim, to hike, to ride ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:11:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGB7kq001016 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:11:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F44F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:10:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:10:18 -0400 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGAIU09064 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:10:18 -0400 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGAGc31185 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:10:16 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9QGAGH9012706 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021026091202.00a2de50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:12:20 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026081217.02bba910@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:48 AM 10/26/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >Perhaps this: "No person shall disclose to any other person (other than > >those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) > >that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible > >things under this section." > >One solution might be to have your attorney keep the records. Then you >would HAVE to consult your attorney in order to comply. Oh, I like this. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:17:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGHwkq001097 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:17:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4542@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:17:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2903934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:17:10 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1ov1JSkRu3IRfvS/Koc2xzcPTR7Rpvsu@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QG79U08743 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:07:10 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8A82FF92 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 401627C1E; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the road to pilates In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 26, 2002 11:55:45 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:07:09 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026160709.401627C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > When I went to my first post-surgery PT > session on Thursday, I learned inadvertently that HealthSouth (connected > to the Knoxville Orthopedic Clinic, who take care of all my bone > problems) will begin classes in January. I think that will turn out to be > my best choice - I will get more info next week. PTs always know about Pilates--that's how I got into it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:22:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGM2kq001150 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:22:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4562@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:21:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:21:14 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:otgjt7Khedrq3a7+4zUUh8dRDL3j5iOL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGBDU09117 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:11:13 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE2D2FDC5 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2F9EF7C16; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021026091202.00a2de50@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Oct 26, 2002 9:12:20 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:11:13 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026161113.2F9EF7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 11:48 AM 10/26/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > > >Perhaps this: "No person shall disclose to any other person (other than > > >those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) > > >that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible > > >things under this section." > > > >One solution might be to have your attorney keep the records. Then you > >would HAVE to consult your attorney in order to comply. > > Oh, I like this. And you'd pay through the nose for it, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:26:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGQWkq001212 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:26:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4589@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:25:43 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:25:44 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (oe50.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGPiU10843 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:25:44 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:25:38 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: here's what we're having for lunch Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:25:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 16:25:38.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[51D63EB0:01C27D0C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id g9QGQWkq001212 http://mexicanfood.about.com/library/recipes/blrr473.htm Looking pretty good at present. Still cooking. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:28:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGSTkq001232 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:28:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F459A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:27:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:27:40 -0400 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGReU10958 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:27:40 -0400 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGRdc10566 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:27:39 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9QGRdH9028583 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021026092930.00a38420@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:29:42 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: here's what we're having for lunch In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:25 AM 10/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: >http://mexicanfood.about.com/library/recipes/blrr473.htm > >Looking pretty good at present. Still cooking. Sounds good. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:32:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGWwkq001327 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:32:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F45B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:10 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGW9U11272 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:09 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:07 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAC443.489CFDA6@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:35:15 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > One solution might be to have your attorney keep the records. Then you > would HAVE to consult your attorney in order to comply. Having an attorney to do this would impose an unreasonable financial burden on a small business, especially on an individual such me. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:39:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGdikq001410 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:39:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F45F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:38:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:38:56 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGctU11732 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:38:55 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LKT302.ROC for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:36:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBAC4E8.922EA0C8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:38:01 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021026161113.2F9EF7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > >On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > > > > >Perhaps this: "No person shall disclose to any other person (other than > > > >those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) > > > >that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible > > > >things under this section." > > > > > >One solution might be to have your attorney keep the records. Then you > > >would HAVE to consult your attorney in order to comply. > > > > Oh, I like this. I do too. > And you'd pay through the nose for it, too. $150 an hour around here, and well worth it, IMO. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:40:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGeskq001425 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:40:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F45FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:40:05 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:40:06 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGe5U11901 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:40:05 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9QGe5W28455 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:40:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000601c27d0e$91edf360$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DB9EDD3.745C694F@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021025215809.02aa0c30@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: For Doris M. Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:41:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Kaminski" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:04 AM Subject: Re: For Doris M. > Doris Markland writes, > > >I had just never read one before like the one I posted. > > A classic one, much better: > > http://www.istori.com/cgi-bin/wiki?TheAmericans > > Really, America's been both good and bad, in the quintessential human style. > > But I can only think of a couple examples of foreign policy so blatantly > arrogant and self-absorbed as that promulgated by the Bush Administration, > and none of them is a positive role model. > > Quoting the editorial: > > >Remember, remember, September 11. One of the greatest atrocities in > >human history was committed against America. > > Without meaning any disrespect to the victims or their loved ones, in terms > of scale it was pretty small. > > To take one recent little-remembered atrocity at random, "Between April and > June 1994, an estimated 800,000 Rwandans were killed in the space of 100 > days." > > That's like 250 September 11's, one every 10 hours for 100 days. > > Pete > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:42:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGgJkq001434 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:42:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4610@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:41:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:41:30 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGfUU11989 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:41:30 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9QGfTW29749 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:41:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c27d0e$c40d1100$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DB9EDD3.745C694F@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021025215809.02aa0c30@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: For Doris M. Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:43:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I had just never read one before like the one I posted. > > A classic one, much better: > > http://www.istori.com/cgi-bin/wiki?TheAmericans So then. We have two friends. > > Really, America's been both good and bad, in the quintessential human style. But of course.] - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:42:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGgckq001438 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:42:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4614@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:41:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:41:50 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGfoU12010 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:41:50 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:41:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAC689.43675EE9@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:44:57 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <3DBAC443.489CFDA6@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: such me. Such as, or, like me. Whichever. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 11:43:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QGhdkq001460 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:43:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F461C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:42:50 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:42:50 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGWnU11305 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:49 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QGWkhA015162 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:46 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <20021026161113.2F9EF7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> >One solution might be to have your attorney keep the records. Then you >> >would HAVE to consult your attorney in order to comply. >> >> Oh, I like this. > >And you'd pay through the nose for it, too. Not necessarily, Many small retailers have attorneys to whom they pay a nominal sum on an ongoing basis just to take care of things like this. Well, not like - but routine admin matters. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:19:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHJ2kq001862 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:19:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F46C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:03:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:03:37 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QH3bU13817 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:03:37 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LLYE01.1T9 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:01:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBACABD.B29B732C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:02:54 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Warrantless searches References: <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021026082936.02b5dec0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > . Here, for Fourth Amendment purposes, the right to self-defense is not > that of an individual, but that of the nation and its citizens. . . If the > government's heightened interest in self-defense justifies the use of > deadly force, then it certainly would also justify warrantless searches. Bullshit. I thought the defeat of the Aliens & Seditions Act solved this once and for all, but apparently I was wrong. If this ain't your cup of Earl Grey its time to reread the first ten amendments to the Constitution and then then find yourself a nice NRA-afilliated club and ask questions. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:19:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHJ2kq001860 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:19:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4628@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:44:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:44:43 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGYgU11446 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:34:42 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QGYghA015858 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:34:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:34:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAC443.489CFDA6@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >Having an attorney to do this would impose an unreasonable financial >burden on a small business, especially on an individual such me. Have you inquired? I am certain that the law as interpreted by those advising you will be determined to be unconstitutional. Still, you have a burden now - and I am sorry that you do. There may be a lawyer who feels stronlgy about this matter and who would assist you for a nominal sum. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:19:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHJ2kq001864 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:19:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F46CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:04:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:04:34 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGsYU12947 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:54:34 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QGsXhA025389 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:54:34 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:54:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <20021026164035.5D41F7C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >To have your attorney keep all your business records?! > >I'm not a bookseller, but I agree with Alyce that it'd be >prohibitively expensive; I can't see any way it wouldn't be. Not all your buiness records. Just customer identification records. I am not a retailer, so I don't know, of couese, if that is realistic - but I know some lawyers who would love to do such work - almost as a public service. It might be worth a conversation with a local bar ass'n rep. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:19:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHJ2kq001863 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:19:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F46F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:34 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:35 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHAZU14252 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:35 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBACD42.18F73103@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:13:38 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021026161113.2F9EF7C16@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBAC4E8.922EA0C8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > $150 an hour around here, and well worth it, IMO. Some **weeks** I don't make that much! alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:19:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHJ2kr001860 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:19:03 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:17:25 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:17:26 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHHPU14704 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:17:25 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBACEDE.B706682B@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:20:30 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I am certain that the law as interpreted by those advising you will be > determined to be unconstitutional. Still, you have a burden now - and I am > sorry that you do. I will risk not being called upon to provide evidence to Ashcroft. Most of my books are pretty ordinary--I mean, no "how to build a bomb." I do have some incendiary ones re: politics, but not many. I am going to be like Barbara Fritchie. Instead of hiring an attorney, I am going to have my grey hair flowing while I wave my flag on the front porch. "Shoot if you must, this old grey head, but spare this country's flag [and all that it used to stand for]." And they can take me down if they wish. I will uphold the honor of my ancestors who fought in the first Revolution in this country. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:19:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHJ2kq001861 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:19:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4655@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:50:36 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:50:36 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HpIfp2COESRyr7H/c6P++8ZAWCxZs4HV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QGeaU11934 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:40:36 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842E22FF5F for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5D41F7C1D; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAC4E8.922EA0C8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Oct 26, 2002 9:38: 1 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:40:35 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026164035.5D41F7C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > >On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > > > > > > >Perhaps this: "No person shall disclose to any other person (other than > > > > >those persons necessary to produce the tangible things under this section) > > > > >that the Federal Bureau of Investigation has sought or obtained tangible > > > > >things under this section." > > > > > > > >One solution might be to have your attorney keep the records. Then you > > > >would HAVE to consult your attorney in order to comply. > > > > > > Oh, I like this. > > I do too. > > > And you'd pay through the nose for it, too. > > $150 an hour around here, and well worth it, IMO. To have your attorney keep all your business records?! I'm not a bookseller, but I agree with Alyce that it'd be prohibitively expensive; I can't see any way it wouldn't be. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:23:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHMxkq001902 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:22:59 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4735@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:22:09 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:22:10 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHMAU14985 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:22:10 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LMTB00.5OB for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:19:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBACF15.2E0A7516@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:21:26 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: up and out - BKD's last word References: <3DBA018C.D3785712@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I was about to turn off the computer and go to bed but am glad I read > this posting so that I can emphasize that I do *NOT* dislike Alec. I > like Alec. I could go on and on about liking him but really do have to > log off now. No one could meet Alec and not like him. What's not to like? He's a mensch. (I still remember how we were having such a good time at Goatroast after breakfast that we forgot he had a plane to catch and I told him not to worry, he could always stay in Starkeville and and be the Town Jew.) 8-) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:26:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHQJkq001935 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:26:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4769@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:25:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:25:30 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7mmYGrwRgN2MAOCKR054IrpNTVn/itEu@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHFUU14585 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:15:30 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD192FE20 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86E0B7C32; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 26, 2002 12:54:33 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:15:28 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026171528.86E0B7C32@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > Not all your buiness records. Just customer identification records. I am > not a retailer, so I don't know, of couese, if that is realistic - but I > know some lawyers who would love to do such work - almost as a public > service. It might be worth a conversation with a local bar ass'n rep. For bigger businesses, I can see that this makes sense (I'd think The Tattered Cover was a bigger business, but I guess I'm basin that on the fact that they are so well known), but I can't imagine it making sense for smaller businesses. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:26:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHQKkq001938 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:26:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096659@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:25:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:25:32 -0400 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHPVU15415 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:25:31 -0400 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHPUc12155 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:25:30 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9QHPUH9031009; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021026102619.00a2c1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:27:33 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBACEDE.B706682B@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:20 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, alyce cresap wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I am certain that the law as interpreted by those advising you will be > > determined to be unconstitutional. Still, you have a burden now - and I am > > sorry that you do. > >I will risk not being called upon to provide evidence to Ashcroft. Most >of my books are pretty ordinary--I mean, no "how to build a bomb." I do >have some incendiary ones re: politics, but not many. > >I am going to be like Barbara Fritchie. Instead of hiring an attorney, I >am going to have my grey hair flowing while I wave my flag on the front >porch. "Shoot if you must, this old grey head, but spare this country's >flag [and all that it used to stand for]." And they can take me down if >they wish. I will uphold the honor of my ancestors who fought in the >first Revolution in this country. I love this image and can picture you doing this. As your blood runs down the steps, your O2 can clank behind. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:29:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHT4kq001953 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:29:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F478F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:28:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:28:12 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:pbxSdR6ebGO51KemTnPocrCeLiHH+6cl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHICU14732 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:18:12 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044052FE19 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 808407C18; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBACEDE.B706682B@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 26, 2002 1:20:30 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026171811.808407C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > I am going to be like Barbara Fritchie. Instead of hiring an attorney, I > am going to have my grey hair flowing while I wave my flag on the front > porch. "Shoot if you must, this old grey head, but spare this country's > flag [and all that it used to stand for]." And they can take me down if > they wish. I will uphold the honor of my ancestors who fought in the > first Revolution in this country. Damn, Alyce. You rock! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:32:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHWQkq002004 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:32:27 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F47AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:31:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:31:37 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHVbU16009 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:31:37 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LN9201.0O4 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:29:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBAD14D.E519A79A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:30:53 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9F1B5.435B70C5@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Are we talking about your comment about who the victims ? > Yep. > Right about what? You're deciding that this African American who > changed his name to a Muslim name turned into an Arab? Not Arab, Muslim. > Well, what about the Colin Powell connection? What, you mean the "house slave"? BTW, I don't recall Harry Belafonte making any smart cracks about Vernon Jordan... > I mean look at John > Williams's young side-kick. Jamaican? That surely reeks of a Colin > connection. Oh, now, THAT'S a leap And what WAS he doing going around with a teen-age boy, anyway? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:36:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHaHkq002075 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:36:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F47C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:35:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906693 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:35:28 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHZSU16211 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:35:28 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LNFH00.DLZ for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:33:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBAD234.2CF6B503@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:34:44 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence References: <3DB9F010.2F0785EC@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Bushmaster's president, Richard E. Dyke, was the Maine finance chairman > of George W. Bush's 2000 Presidential > campaign. According to Business Week, Dyke had to step down as Bush's > finance chair "after reporters began quizzing him about his business > dealings. He did it voluntarily. > Bushmaster Firearms Inc., is notorious for using loopholes to > sidestep a 1994 federal ban on assault rifles." This is Newspeak for "obeying the law". > (From Michael Moore) Oh, there's what I call a credible source. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 12:58:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QHwukq002300 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:58:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F489D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:58:06 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2907679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:58:06 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QHw6U18229 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:58:06 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LOH201.LNY for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:55:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBAD77C.56E8333E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:57:17 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <3DBACEDE.B706682B@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I am going to be like Barbara Fritchie. Instead of hiring an attorney, I > am going to have my grey hair flowing while I wave my flag on the front > porch. "Shoot if you must, this old grey head, but spare this country's > flag [and all that it used to stand for]." And they can take me down if > they wish. I will uphold the honor of my ancestors who fought in the > first Revolution in this country. And in the same spirit! alyce, I'll show up unarmed (But with an attorney - "Stand back! I"ve got a subpeona, and I'm not afraid to use it!") and with a camera crew. We'll have a photo op that will have one of us running for Congress! JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 13:14:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QIEmkq002473 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:14:48 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4914@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:13:58 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2907807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:13:59 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QI3xU18634 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:03:59 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QI3whA021848 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:03:58 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:03:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBACEDE.B706682B@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >I am going to be like Barbara Fritchie. Instead of hiring an attorney, I >am going to have my grey hair flowing while I wave my flag on the front >porch. "Shoot if you must, this old grey head, but spare this country's >flag [and all that it used to stand for]." And they can take me down if >they wish. I will uphold the honor of my ancestors who fought in the >first Revolution in this country. I am not going to worry about you anymore! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 13:16:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QIG8kq002530 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:16:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F491E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:15:18 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2907908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:15:19 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QI5JU18816 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:05:19 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QI5IhA022304 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:05:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAD77C.56E8333E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, John Williams wrote: > And in the same spirit! alyce, I'll show up unarmed (But with an attorney - >"Stand back! I"ve got a subpeona, and I'm not afraid to use it!") and with a >camera crew. We'll have a photo op that will have one of us running for >Congress! You've gotta get word to me - Maria and I want to be there! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 13:18:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QIIXkq002598 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:18:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409691B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:17:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:17:44 -0400 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QIHiU19657 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:17:44 -0400 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QIHgc18431 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:17:42 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9QIHgH9004884; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021026111931.00a2c4c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:19:45 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAD77C.56E8333E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DBACEDE.B706682B@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:57 AM 10/26/2002 -0700, John Williams wrote: >alyce cresap wrote: > > > I am going to be like Barbara Fritchie. Instead of hiring an attorney, I > > am going to have my grey hair flowing while I wave my flag on the front > > porch. "Shoot if you must, this old grey head, but spare this country's > > flag [and all that it used to stand for]." And they can take me down if > > they wish. I will uphold the honor of my ancestors who fought in the > > first Revolution in this country. > > And in the same spirit! alyce, I'll show up unarmed (But with an > attorney - >"Stand back! I"ve got a subpeona, and I'm not afraid to use it!") and with a >camera crew. We'll have a photo op that will have one of us running for >Congress! I love ya, man! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 13:20:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QIK9kq002627 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:20:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4939@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:19:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:19:20 -0400 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QIJKU19774 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:19:20 -0400 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QIJIc19597 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:19:18 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9QIJIH9004124; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021026112046.00a4c7d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:21:21 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: References: <3DBAD77C.56E8333E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:05 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, John Williams wrote: > > > And in the same spirit! alyce, I'll show up unarmed (But with an > attorney - > >"Stand back! I"ve got a subpeona, and I'm not afraid to use it!") and > with a > >camera crew. We'll have a photo op that will have one of us running for > >Congress! > >You've gotta get word to me - Maria and I want to be there! This could be better than Brad's Women's Prison movie. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 13:27:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QIRYkq002819 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:27:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908141 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:26:45 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:z7JfKGnkiSNgJ66tKU62DI0B1qO7kk7K@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QIGjU19561 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:16:45 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7492FED3 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E7E6A7C20; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 26, 2002 2: 5:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:16:44 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026181644.E7E6A7C20@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, John Williams wrote: > > > And in the same spirit! alyce, I'll show up unarmed (But with an attorney - > >"Stand back! I"ve got a subpeona, and I'm not afraid to use it!") and with a > >camera crew. We'll have a photo op that will have one of us running for > >Congress! > > You've gotta get word to me - Maria and I want to be there! Hmmm... "media hound" or "media whore"? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 14:01:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QJ1nkq003541 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:01:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4A25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:00:59 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:00:59 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJ0xU22389 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:00:59 -0400 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.21]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4LRE003.0NV for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:58:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBAE637.EE91D2FC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:00:08 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <3DBAD77C.56E8333E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20021026112046.00a4c7d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 02:05 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > >You've gotta get word to me - Maria and I want to be there! > > This could be better than Brad's Women's Prison movie. I see Bethany on Maria with the "Don't Tread On Me" flag waving in the background as alyce and I are drug off to the local hoosegow with her O2 tank clanking on the pavement behind her and me handcuffed shouting some unintelligible 2nd Amendment hooey smothered over by the local haircuts. It could happen. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 14:11:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QJB5kq003614 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:11:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4A5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:10:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:10:15 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJAFU23066 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:10:15 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:10:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAE94D.74B1FBF3@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:13:17 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021026171528.86E0B7C32@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > For bigger businesses, I can see that this makes sense (I'd think The > Tattered Cover was a bigger business, but I guess I'm basin that on > the fact that they are so well known), Well, they are bigger than I, but not big like B&N. The lawsuit(s) caused a huge drain on their purse, and many of us sent contributions to help them. I think they also got legal help from the American Booksellers Association. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 14:12:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QJCskq003651 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:12:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4A69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:12:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:12:05 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJC5U23158 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:12:05 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:12:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAE9BB.6C27802E@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:15:07 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <4.2.2.20021026102619.00a2c1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > As your blood runs down > the steps, your O2 can clank behind. If they get close to me, I can set the O2 afire and blow us all up. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 14:18:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QJIdkq003726 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:18:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4A8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:17:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:17:49 -0400 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJHnU23491 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:17:49 -0400 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJHlc25975 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:17:47 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9QJHlH9008617; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021026121930.00a37e50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:19:50 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAE9BB.6C27802E@valstar.net> References: <4.2.2.20021026102619.00a2c1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:15 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, alyce cresap wrote: >Betty wrote: > > As your blood runs down > > the steps, your O2 can clank behind. > >If they get close to me, I can set the O2 afire and blow us all up. > >alyce LOL. So many different endings are possible. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 14:19:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QJJMkq003733 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:19:22 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4A92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:18:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:18:33 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJIWU23544 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:18:32 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:18:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAEB3C.CF9DFE0@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:21:32 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021026181644.E7E6A7C20@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Hmmm... "media hound" or "media whore"? Lens louse. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 14:41:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QJf5kq004127 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:41:06 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096B3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:40:15 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:40:15 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJeFU25249 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:40:15 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-245.panax.com [63.163.41.245]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJeDt28975 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:40:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026153858.00b62ec8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:40:02 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAE9BB.6C27802E@valstar.net> References: <4.2.2.20021026102619.00a2c1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:15 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, alyce wrote: >Betty wrote: > > As your blood runs down > > the steps, your O2 can clank behind. > >If they get close to me, I can set the O2 afire and blow us all up. Well, the O2 won't burn, but it will do a great job of supporting whatever other fire you start... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:05:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QK55kq004281 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:05:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4B38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:47:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:47:57 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJlvU25847 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:47:57 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:47:36 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAF20C.77B8CD98@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:50:36 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: weeding out books Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/26/arts/26BOOK.html?todaysheadlines -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:05:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QK55kq004282 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:05:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4B42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:49:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:49:03 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJn3U25940 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:49:03 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:49:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAF264.A07D5654@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:52:04 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <4.2.2.20021026102619.00a2c1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021026153858.00b62ec8@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > Well, the O2 won't burn, but it will do a great job of supporting whatever > other fire you start... Yes, I did not phrase it well. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:05:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QK55kq004280 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:05:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4ADD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:32:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2909452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:32:23 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wJ1IqYYQtnOGzHQNvY1YYsBLZmmbJlOz@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJMMU23821 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:22:22 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E2D2FF6D for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A8387C1B; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAE94D.74B1FBF3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 26, 2002 3:13:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:22:22 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026192222.2A8387C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: [about Tattered Cover] > Well, they are bigger than I, but not big like B&N. No, of course not. > The lawsuit(s) caused a huge drain on their purse, and many of us > sent contributions to help them. Yes, I know that and didn't mean to imply otherwise. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:05:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QK55kq004283 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:05:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4B7F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:00:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:00:49 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bPH9aafPpp0CGrhqvO9xn7lxc5GLkVA1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJomU26051 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:50:48 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429172FE21 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 130717C1D; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: weeding out books In-Reply-To: <3DBAF20C.77B8CD98@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 26, 2002 3:50:36 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:50:47 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026195048.130717C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/26/arts/26BOOK.html?todaysheadlines 88 miles of shelves! What a concept. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:08:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QK8Akq004310 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:08:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4BAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:07:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:07:20 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:V/GLVoLImaBhcrn0Au8/ZFWDqZA0rb0v@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QJvKU26470 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:57:20 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00332FE99 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 766AA7C21; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026195719.766AA7C21@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:10:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QKAGkq004326 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:10:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4BC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:09:26 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:09:26 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QK9QU27360 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:09:26 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:09:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAF728.1944866A@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:12:24 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: weeding out books References: <20021026195048.130717C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > 88 miles of shelves! What a concept. I have about 1/2 mile, counting both at home and in my bookland. Surely could use more. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:21:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QKLTkq004404 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:21:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096C61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:20:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:20:39 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RcFzaFFX8Bb8T4bZYaCKWY+05gdEtOvt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QKAdU27461 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:10:39 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2F02FE89 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C3507C1A; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: weeding out books In-Reply-To: <3DBAF728.1944866A@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 26, 2002 4:12:24 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026201038.8C3507C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > 88 miles of shelves! What a concept. > > I have about 1/2 mile, counting both at home and in my bookland. Surely > could use more. I have far, far less--but I'm a weeder. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:21:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QKLUkq004407 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:21:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4C01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:20:40 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:20:40 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f82.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QKKdU28139 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:20:39 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:20:34 -0700 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:20:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: weekend Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:20:33 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 20:20:34.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[237166F0:01C27D2D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm a real slug and like nothing more than doing nothing on the weekends. Except this time of year. The disappearence of humidity, nip in the air, the foliage all motivate me to be a little less lazy than usual. (this doesn't last long. usually until Thanksgiving.) So far today I went to a 2 hr. cardio and strength/torso training class at the gym, came home and made kickass baba gannouj and spiced nuts to bring to a party tonight, cleaned the kitchen, chatted with my next-door neighbor, put the finishing touches on my costume, read 1/3 of -Atonement- whew, can't believe I got so much done. It won't happen again anytime soon. At the risk of annoying Alec, I had to report this. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:23:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QKNCkq004419 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:23:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4C0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:22:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:22:22 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QKMMU28287 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:22:22 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:22:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBAFA31.3D5D4C0A@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:25:21 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: put the finishing > touches on my costume, What is your costume? A ray of light? alyce > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:27:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QKRZkq004453 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:27:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4C33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f244.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.244]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QKQjU28532 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:26:45 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:26:39 -0700 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:26:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Names Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:26:39 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 20:26:39.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD5C4C40:01C27D2D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well done, Tushar, Ann, bonniev. You three should take over the names site. _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 15:33:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QKXjkq004515 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:33:45 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4C56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:32:54 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2910982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f23.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QKWsU28961 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:32:54 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:32:49 -0700 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:32:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: the white van Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:32:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 20:32:49.0325 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9A545D0:01C27D2E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU JMW: > > The basic point is that Black Muslims are fucked ... > When did I say that? When? C'mon, tell me. Says 6:03 on my clock >here - >you have two hours to put up or shut up. Um, I thought that was Tushar's point. No claim that you said it. (I read all of yesterday's and today's posts in one sitting and this jumped out at me.) -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:18:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLIIkq005211 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:18:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4DEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:28 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:24 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLHOU00372 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:24 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBB0715.210DA17C@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:20:21 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: patriot act Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU just by chance, this just arrived in my mailbox: Patriot Act causes libraries to review records http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/local/4327549.htm Oct. 20, 2002 By Dana Hull SAN JOSE MERCURY NEWS Attached to each staff phone in the Berkeley Public Library is a dark pink laminated card advising employees on how to handle subpoenas. "If a person comes to you to serve a subpoena on the library, say that you are not in a position to act on it," the card reads. "Do not attempt to give them the information they are looking for." Librarians in Berkeley and across the country are increasingly concerned that federal agents will use the USA Patriot Act -- an anti-terrorism bill signed nearly a year ago -- to demand patron circulation records and Internet logs. On Thursday, the House Judiciary Committee released the Justice Department's answers to a series of questions about the Patriot Act, including how many times federal investigators have obtained records from public libraries and bookstores. But the Justice Department declined to provide many details, saying the information is classified. FBI agents seized two computers from a Delray Beach, Fla., library because some of the Sept. 11 hijackers are believed to have used public computers to communicate. "I believe in privacy, but if we know that someone has committed a crime, we're not going to sit by and not say anything," said Kathleen Hensman, a reference librarian who remembers talking to the hijackers in the summer of 2001. "I would do it again, Patriot Act or not." In California, more than a dozen librarians say they are worried that the FBI's expanded surveillance powers will have a chilling effect on how people perceive and use the library, where anonymity is rigorously defended. "We've discussed the Patriot Act in detail," said Karen Rollin Duffy, the city librarian in Santa Clara. "Our stance has always been that we want to protect patron privacy. But we are reviewing our practices. What records do we keep, and are we keeping them for too long?" Justice Department officials say librarians are overreacting. But some libraries and bookstores are now thinking twice about records that they once kept as a matter of course. At Bell's Books in Palo Alto, information about the Patriot Act was posted at the store's cash register. "This is not a situation where the FBI can walk into a library and say 'Give us all your records,'" said Mark Corallo, a department spokesman. "It can only be used if the person is under investigation for possibly being linked to terrorism, and the FBI has to go to great lengths to get a warrant from a judge." Some Bay Area libraries have conducted "privacy audits" of their computer systems and files. Others keep fewer records today than before the Patriot Act was passed, and a few make sure to erase the caches on hard drives or regularly shred computer use sign-up sheets. "Many of us are concerned about this," said Linda Wood, director of the Alameda County Public Library. "What people read and view from library collections has always been confidential. We want people to feel secure that Big Brother is not watching over them." Congress passed the USA Patriot Act in October 2001, shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks. Section 215 allows federal agents to get a search warrant to examine certain "business records" as part of terrorism investigations, and that can include records from public libraries and bookstores. FBI agents can obtain a warrant from a judge for library or bookstore records of anyone thought to be involved in a terrorist plot. Once contacted, librarians are forbidden to discuss the investigation, which has made it impossible to determine how widely Section 215 has been used in California. Andrew Black, a spokesman for the FBI's San Francisco office, said he was not aware of any Bay Area libraries that have been asked to turn over records. "It's a very rare circumstance where this is used, and there are multiple levels of review," said Black. In December, the University of Illinois surveyed 1,020 libraries across the country. Eighty-five libraries, many of them near urban areas, said that they had been asked by law enforcement officials for information about patrons related to Sept. 11. The anonymous survey methods made it impossible to tell which libraries were contacted. The Berkeley Public Library has already been contacted by the government. Immediately after Sept. 11, the library received a call from the Air Force warning that someone apparently used a library computer to hack into the Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield, according to Jackie Griffin, the library director. "We were pressed very hard to say who had used the computer, but I told them that California law says that those records are private and I can't give them out without a subpoena," Griffin said. "But this was all before the Patriot Act. We would have been in a whole different world if the Patriot Act had been in place." A number of Bay Area libraries say they only keep a written log of computer usage when there is a waiting list for computers with Internet access. But those logs are usually shredded at the end of the day or week. "We're watching cautiously," said Susan Fuller, director of the Santa Clara County Library. "California has strong privacy laws that protect patron information, but the Patriot Act could override state law. We take seriously our role as a neutral information provider without the government looking over our shoulder." alyce -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:22:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLM8kq005278 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:22:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096FB6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:21:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:21:17 -0400 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLLHU00612 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:21:17 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:21:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBB07FF.91DC5947@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:24:15 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: cannon? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do you think the guy really said this? Assets: Rare Book Prices Smash Records By Richard Chang NEW YORK (Reuters) - [snip] "The more significant the text in the cannon of a particular writer, as a function of its place in the narrative of contemporary literature, the more powerful the response of the market," said Glenn Horowitz, a New York dealer who bought the "Ulysses" copy last week on behalf of a client. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:28:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLS4kq005375 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:28:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04096FD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:27:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:27:14 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ELb0nlKHyMriWG3uUTgrLF4YaYaamfs+@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLHEU00363 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:14 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8553F2FDFB for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3EED17C1E; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Oct 26, 2002 8:20:33 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026211712.3EED17C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > So far today I went to a 2 hr. cardio and > strength/torso training class at the gym, came home and made kickass > baba gannouj and spiced nuts to bring to a party tonight, cleaned the > kitchen, chatted with my next-door neighbor, put the finishing > touches on my costume, read 1/3 of -Atonement- whew, can't believe > I got so much done. It won't happen again anytime soon. At the risk > of annoying Alec, I had to report this. The shortening days and the rain have turned me into a literal couch potato: I felt exhausted just reading this. I'm trying to decide whether it's too soon to turn on the heat. It's 67 inside, but my hands and feet are cold. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:28:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLSekq005380 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:28:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4E32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:27:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:27:49 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLHmU00378 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:49 -0400 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9QLHihA023781 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:17:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBAE9BB.6C27802E@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >If they get close to me, I can set the O2 afire and blow us all up. Oh, alyce, do I love you (with the usual caveat). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:34:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLYAkq005459 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:34:11 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4E53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:33:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:33:20 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:blnPgQ8CR00SLVcoRPBZyz8JX8DFWHMd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLNKU00849 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:23:20 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29EE2FEEE for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6DF467C1E; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: cannon? In-Reply-To: <3DBB07FF.91DC5947@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 26, 2002 5:24:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:23:19 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026212319.6DF467C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Do you think the guy really said this? I think Reuters has started using spell-checkers instead of editors. > Assets: Rare Book Prices Smash Records > By Richard Chang > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - [snip] > > "The more significant the text in the cannon of a particular writer, > as a function of its place in the narrative of contemporary > literature, the more powerful the response of the market," said Glenn > Horowitz, a New York dealer who bought the "Ulysses" copy last week > on behalf of a client. > -- > alyce > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:42:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLgZkq005627 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:42:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4E86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:41:44 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:41:45 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLfhU02343 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:41:43 -0400 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-158.panax.com [63.163.42.158]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLfft16282 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:41:41 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026173655.00a03a30@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:40:59 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: <20021026211712.3EED17C1E@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Rashmi Murthy said: > > So far today I went to a 2 hr. cardio and > > strength/torso training class at the gym, came home and made kickass > > baba gannouj and spiced nuts to bring to a party tonight, cleaned the > > kitchen, chatted with my next-door neighbor, put the finishing > > touches on my costume, read 1/3 of -Atonement- whew, > >The shortening days and the rain have turned me into a literal couch >potato: I felt exhausted just reading this. --Karen Oh, goody. We are doing diary entries. Saturday, October 26. It's been chilly and rainy most of the day here. But before the rain started, Clyde and I did manage to put the kayaks away for the season. We took them out of the garage, laid them on the grass near the fence to the left of the driveway, covered them with a tarp, roped the tarp down against the winter winds, and said farewell to paddling for the year. We only went out one time all summer. I also stored away the furniture from the back deck, took down the umbrella, brought in the new Don Quixote "focal point", and cleaned up the basement and garage so that we can bring the car in when the weather turns nasty. After that Clyde drove down for the newspapers and I made some white chocolate/raspberry scones from a mix that we bought at the King Arthur baking store in Vermont. They were quite yummy. I only used 1/4 of the mix so we will be able to do this three more times. The guy who is going to fix our deck came by and we chatted. One wonders if this job will be finished before snow or at least before wordslers descend on us. He promises "soon". After that Clyde watched football and I knitted and watched soaps. Clyde-made pizza for dinner tonight. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:45:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLjKkq005700 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:45:21 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04097047@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:44:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:44:30 -0400 Received: from cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.83]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLiTU02553 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:44:29 -0400 Received: from computer ([206.214.0.233]) by cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: <009101c27d38$cfb0b460$e900d6ce@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DB9DD63.70E93D28@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: up and out Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:43:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 21:43:02.0914 (UTC) FILETIME=[A923EE20:01C27D38] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Let it be known that I was here the first day the list existed. In > Alec's view of the world, that gives me . > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > It does give you the status as Head Mutant! alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:47:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLlXkq005747 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:47:33 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4E9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:46:41 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:46:42 -0400 Received: from cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLkfU02742 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:46:42 -0400 Received: from computer ([206.214.0.233]) by cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:45:14 -0700 Message-ID: <00a001c27d39$1e9e64a0$e900d6ce@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: up and out Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:46:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 21:45:14.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7B77070:01C27D38] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: Re: up and out > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >I think having a spouse have brain cancer beats anything you could > >provide, Bethany. > > Unlike alec, I am not out to anybody. > > Bethany > Neither am I. I am not very competitive. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:49:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLnekq005797 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:49:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4EB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:48:48 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:48:49 -0400 Received: from cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com [207.46.181.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLmmU02986 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:48:49 -0400 Received: from computer ([206.214.0.233]) by cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:47:21 -0700 Message-ID: <00aa01c27d39$6a2df5c0$e900d6ce@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DB9DFDF.27B4F6F8@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: up and out Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:48:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 21:47:22.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[43B505A0:01C27D39] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I don't know about all of his nightmares, but I do think it would be > pretty hard for most people to match some of them. From what I know of > your life, you would be way, way far from anything remotely approaching > Alec's major nightmare of the past few years. > > How long has it been, Alec? I was thinking about that the other day and > trying to remember when it was that Heide's condition was first > diagnosed. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > It was March 15, 2000. An Ides of March to remember for us. Heide is slowly healing. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:52:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLqTkq005810 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:52:30 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4EC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:51:38 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:51:39 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLpcU03254 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:51:38 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9QLpcW11195 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:51:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004601c27d3a$18752220$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:53:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:20 PM Subject: weekend > I'm a real slug and like nothing more than doing nothing on the weekends. > Except this time of year. The disappearence of humidity, nip in the air, the > foliage all motivate me to be a little less lazy than usual. (this doesn't > last long. > usually until Thanksgiving.) So far today I went to a 2 hr. cardio and > strength/torso training class at the gym, came home and made kickass > baba gannouj and spiced nuts to bring to a party tonight, cleaned the > kitchen, chatted with my next-door neighbor, put the finishing > touches on my costume, read 1/3 of -Atonement- whew, can't believe > I got so much done. It won't happen again anytime soon. At the risk > of annoying Alec, I had to report this. > > -rashmi An excellent Saturday report. You get an A+. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:54:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLsskq005821 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:54:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4ECD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:54:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:54:03 -0400 Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLs3U03491 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:54:03 -0400 Received: from computer ([206.214.0.233]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:52:36 -0700 Message-ID: <00da01c27d3a$25cd9380$e900d6ce@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001501c27c67$1e4e2a30$48305b80@EAGLE72> <4.2.2.20021025174359.00b11d00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: up and out Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:53:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 21:52:36.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF42A200:01C27D39] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" To: Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: up and out > At 04:45 PM 10/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > > > >I have lived many nightmares, you can never match these nightmares. > > > >Does our little friend alec always makes unsupportable claims? > > Bethany, don't do this. Alec's life was a nightmare for quite some time. > > Betty > Thanks, Betty, I am strong and a fighter. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLu9kq005839 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:56:10 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04097088@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:55:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:55:18 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Fy6VP/eu9iYqFNeHWZna08Y7svhK+MCL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLjIU02626 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:45:18 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9952FE46 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5D03E7C23; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: up and out In-Reply-To: <009101c27d38$cfb0b460$e900d6ce@computer> from "Alec D. Plotkin" at "Oct 26, 2002 5:43:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:45:17 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026214517.5D03E7C23@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin said: > > Let it be known that I was here the first day the list existed. In > > Alec's view of the world, that gives me . > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > It does give you the status as Head Mutant! I thought she had that already? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:56:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLulkq005844 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:56:47 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4ED4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:55:55 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:55:56 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLttU03632 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:55:56 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9QLttW13964 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:55:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006c01c27d3a$b12592c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026173655.00a03a30@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: weekend Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:57:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The guy who is going to fix our deck came by and we chatted. One wonders > if this job will be finished before snow or at least before wordslers > descend on us. He promises "soon". After that Clyde watched football and > I knitted and watched soaps. Clyde-made pizza for dinner tonight. > > > --bonniev I'd say you guys also get an A+. A Saturday well spent. -D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 16:58:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QLwekq005872 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:58:41 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4EDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:57:49 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:57:50 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QLvnU03786 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:57:49 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9QLvmW15348 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:57:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <007701c27d3a$f4c7b8a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DB9DFDF.27B4F6F8@maynor.net> <00aa01c27d39$6a2df5c0$e900d6ce@computer> Subject: Re: Re: up and out Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:59:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > How long has it been, Alec? I was thinking about that the other day and > > trying to remember when it was that Heide's condition was first > > diagnosed. > > > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > It was March 15, 2000. An Ides of March to remember for us. Heide is slowly > healing. > > > alec That is remarkable. I hope she is able to get to a place where all that treatment is over and can be forgotten. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 17:02:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QM2Ikq005937 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:02:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F4F19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QM1RU04327 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:27 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-245.panax.com [63.163.41.245]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QM1Pt19213 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:25 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026175828.00b60d50@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:00:21 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026173655.00a03a30@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <20021026211712.3EED17C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:40 PM 10/26/2002 -0400, bonnie wrote: >The guy who is going to fix our deck came by and we chatted. One wonders >if this job will be finished before snow or at least before wordslers >descend on us. He promises "soon". After that Clyde watched football and >I knitted and watched soaps. Clyde-made pizza for dinner tonight. Well, I haven't made the pizza yet; the dough is rising, however and the garlic is happily marinating in the olive oil. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 17:02:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QM2Kkq005941 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:02:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4F1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:29 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:29 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QM1TU04335 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:29 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-245.panax.com [63.163.41.245]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QM1Rt19220 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:28 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026180033.00b5c6f8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:01:15 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021026195719.766AA7C21@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:57 PM 10/26/2002 -0700, karen wrote: >Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. What caused this reaction? Which show(s)? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 17:14:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QMEGkq006022 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:14:16 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F4F7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:13:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:13:25 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mF/aAIuuyo9Nh19rnp8xSdKuhI7+bPTZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QM3OU04512 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:03:24 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D4B2FDF7 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0534E7C1E; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026180033.00b5c6f8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Oct 26, 2002 6: 1:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:03:23 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021026220323.0534E7C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 12:57 PM 10/26/2002 -0700, karen wrote: > >Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. > > What caused this reaction? Which show(s)? Nothing major: Lidia's Italian-American Kitchen. Her recipes are consider IP, though--she only sells them, which is frustrating. She has made me decide to make soup, though. Jeeze. Soup, lasagna--you know it's winter. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 17:18:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QMI5kq006077 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:18:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F4F9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:17:13 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:17:13 -0400 Received: from cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com [207.46.181.78]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QMHDU05718 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:17:13 -0400 Received: from computer ([206.214.0.233]) by cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:15:45 -0700 Message-ID: <026801c27d3d$621c63e0$e900d6ce@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DB9DFDF.27B4F6F8@maynor.net> <00aa01c27d39$6a2df5c0$e900d6ce@computer> <007701c27d3a$f4c7b8a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: up and out Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:16:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 22:15:46.0532 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B8C4240:01C27D3D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Markland" > > That is remarkable. I hope she is > able to get to a place where all > that treatment is over and can be > forgotten. > > - D. M. > Sorry, if I was unclear, Heide is done her treatment. Her healing is ongoing from the chemo and radiation side effects. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 17:28:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QMSOkq006149 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:28:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040971C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:27:33 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2915150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:27:33 -0400 Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QMRXU06526 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:27:33 -0400 Received: from computer ([206.214.0.233]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4617); Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:26:05 -0700 Message-ID: <028501c27d3e$d37e2860$e900d6ce@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: up and out - BKD's last word Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:27:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2002 22:26:06.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD171290:01C27D3E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bethany K. Dumas" Much deleted... > > I shall write no more on this topic. The only reason I undertook to > at you is that you seemed to want attention, and I was willing to > give it to you. But whining is not really my style, and I am not > comfortable with it. > > Bethany > I saved the message and I might respond to parts of it over a period of time. I need to digest it. I will say that, both of us have suffered in life and I respect greatly that suffering. I will make an effort not to single out your entries or any one else. Alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 17:36:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QMawkq006278 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:36:58 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040971EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:36:07 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2915387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:36:03 -0400 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QMa3U07391 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:36:03 -0400 Received: from valstar.net (cust50.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.52]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:36:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBB1981.72E3B390@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:38:57 -0400 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: boring Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My Saturday: Woke up at 8:10. Let Spike out, then in. Fed Spike. Had coffee. Instant. Too much trouble to make it in the coffeemaker. Tended to e-mail. Took garbage to transfer station and mailed a bunch of paid bills. Tended to e-mail. Drank and EnsurePlus. Rested and watched the Anti-War Rally on C-SPAN for awhile. Tended to e-mail. Did some Cresap Society "housekeeping"--updating addresses, noting births, marriages, etc. Tended to e-mail. Tried to let Spike out a few times, but it was cold and raining and he wouldn't go out. He has the greatest bladder and bowel capacity of any living creature. Riley did not show up. Fed birds. Made a pot of Lipton's Creamy Garlic Shells, and threw in some green beans. A envelope is two servings. Tried to eat the whole thing, but only made it through about 1-3/4 servings. Still, with butter and milk, it should have been about 300 calories. Now I am going to lie abed and watch Capital Gang, followed by a movie, if I don't fall asleep first. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 17:47:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QMl8kq006397 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:47:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F504A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:46:17 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2915605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:46:17 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QMkHU08084 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:46:17 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-245.panax.com [63.163.41.245]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QMk2t26108; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:46:02 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026180639.00b63c48@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:45:57 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: ...as Porky Pig would say... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Th-th-th-th-that's all, f-folks! The , for all intents and purposes is over. That we have not completely expended our ration of fall color notwithstanding, the village is shutting down. Some shops are closed; their signs offering variations on the "Thanks a lot, see you in the spring" theme. Others are closed with assurances that they will open for Pajama Day---a happening that Bonnie has described in other years. Jekyll & Hyde, which sells everything from T-shirts to Twilley hats to binoculars to the kinds of knives that only true bubbas would buy, is in about its third week of its annual 50% off sale. The fellow who owns/runs it (known locally as "The Chief') is noted for his ability to sniff out the presence of a piece of 2-1/8 x 3-3/8" (54 x 85 mm) plastic at several miles; he is still open and who knows? he may take another run at it next weekend. Parking spaces are now available at any time of the day on Main and Cottage Streets. The few tourists still around are now able to stand in the middle of Main St. and take photos of the street with the waters of the harbor in the background without the danger of becoming the hood ornament of a Mercedes SUV. Our friends at the Primrose (Bryan and Pamela) closed last Monday. Their closing was labelled "Mimosa Monday" because as soon as the last guest was bid farewell (after yielding the keys), Pam and Bryan were going to break out the mimosas and celebrate. Several people were invited to join them in the celebration. Unfortunately, we were on our way to Vermont then, but perhaps next year. They have had company since---old friends up to help them celebrate surviving yet another year. When things settle down a bit more, we will get together for dinner at our place or theirs. The year-round residents (including us) are still trying to piece together which restaurants are going to stay open through the winter. Havana will not---a major kitchen renovation will begin in mid-November. But there still is hope. Mache Bistro will be open although Maureen isn't sure of the schedule yet, and one of the Italian restaurants (Anthony's) is opening a "Little Anthony's" which probably will be a decided improvement on what occupies the building now. There is hope. We now are enjoying several hours (with some yet to come) of rain---sweeping up the coast under reasonably brisk breezes. It is sufficiently nasty outside that I decided to forego the expedition to the herb patch for fresh oregano; the pizza tonight will make do with dried stuff (fresh sage and rosemary may make up for it). As Bonnie noted earlier, we mummified the kayaks and removed the carriers from the car-roof. I had held out hopes of perhaps one nice late-autumn paddle somewhere in this vicinity, but the pattern of the weather is now clear. If we do have a day or so of very nice weather, we will spend it hiking rather than paddling. Tonight the far-northern interior of Maine may receive its first accumulation of snow this winter. If the trend continues, we may see snow here while the oaks and more recalcitrant maples are still colored. Hey! Photo op! Time to go build a pizza. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 18:36:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QNaVkq006925 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:36:31 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F5143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:35:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:35:39 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QNZdU11308 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:35:39 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9QNZcW02125 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:35:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001001c27d48$9f9bcb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Weekend Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:37:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I began the day by eating a bowl of the granola that I prepared yesterday, a supply to last for some time . . . oats, bran, wheat germ, seeds, nuts, dates, raisins, dried apricots, etc. with a bit of molasses and honey, slowly processed in the oven. I was merrily (?) cleaning bathrooms and kitchen floor, etc., when Gene brought home our little motor home which is used mostly for fishing and hunting trips, and announced we were going to clean it and prepare it for winter. So we worked in there (in the driveway) all afternoon, and because I am a perfectionist we didn't get finished . . . stove knobs and refrig interior and shower and bedding, etc. etc. So tomorrow we go at it again. When we bought the motor home several years ago, I thought that maybe I would enjoy weekends at a lake or some scenic spot, with a stack of books, some easy snack foods, and a camera. But I just never did it. We are thinking of selling it. Maybe I should try an outing first, on my terms. Then we came in and sat down, tired from our efforts, and had a couple of beers. Now Gene is watching the Nebraska game and I am about to put a steak on the grill, saute some fresh mushrooms, toss a salad, and nuke 2 potatoes. Things could be worse. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 18:44:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QNickq007014 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:44:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F5169@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:43:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:43:47 -0400 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QNhlU11759 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:43:47 -0400 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4M00KAS4KY58@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:43:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:45:09 -0500 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Weekend To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBB2905.8060808@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <001001c27d48$9f9bcb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm jealous. I'm spending my weekend putting together unit plans. I'd like to do something other than school -- even clean out a camper or garage. Whine whine whine. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 18:51:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9QNpTkq007126 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:51:29 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F518B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:50:37 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:50:37 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QNobU12476 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:50:37 -0400 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-245.panax.com [63.163.41.245]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9QNoVt04323 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:50:32 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026194443.00b63c48@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:50:28 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021026220323.0534E7C1E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026180033.00b5c6f8@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:03 PM 10/26/2002 -0700, karen wrote: >Nothing major: Lidia's Italian-American Kitchen. Her recipes are >consider IP, though--she only sells them, which is frustrating. I've browsed a couple of her cookbooks---I didn't see anything particularly inspiring. >She has made me decide to make soup, though. Jeeze. Soup, lasagna--you >know it's winter. Yeah, ain't it great? I like to make soups. Last night I added some garlic, cranberry beans, tomatoes, andouille sausage, carrots, and celery to my meat stock. We had it with fresh bread. Lasagna is Bonnie's area--I just grate the cheese and gather the herbs. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 19:13:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R0Dukq007381 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:13:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F5208@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:13:04 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2917160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:13:05 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RM9F8KYc4EK4p+aX0mZH8ogGWvu0NXJq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R034U13408 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:03:04 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE7E3000D for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3A0BC7C1B; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026194443.00b63c48@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Oct 26, 2002 7:50:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:03:00 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027000300.3A0BC7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 03:03 PM 10/26/2002 -0700, karen wrote: > >Nothing major: Lidia's Italian-American Kitchen. Her recipes are > >consider IP, though--she only sells them, which is frustrating. > > I've browsed a couple of her cookbooks---I didn't see anything particularly > inspiring. No. Competent, middle-of-the-road. A starting place. > >She has made me decide to make soup, though. Jeeze. Soup, lasagna--you > >know it's winter. > > Yeah, ain't it great? No. > I like to make soups. Last night I added some > garlic, cranberry beans, tomatoes, andouille sausage, carrots, and celery > to my meat stock. We had it with fresh bread. I made instant ramen. > Lasagna is Bonnie's > area--I just grate the cheese and gather the herbs. I made 3 pans of it earlier this week--one for me, one for Ligniere, and one for a friend of his. This friend of his eats really badly, but for some reason he likes my lasagna, so I made him some. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 19:49:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R0nQkq007794 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:49:26 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F52D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:48:30 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:48:30 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R0mUU16441 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:48:30 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9R0mTW25802 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:48:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002001c27d52$cd2c0680$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001001c27d48$9f9bcb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBB2905.8060808@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: Weekend Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:50:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm jealous. I'm spending my weekend putting together unit > plans. I'd like to do something other than school -- even > clean out a camper or garage. > > Whine whine whine. > > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita Well, you had kind of a late start, didn't you? You'll get caught up and ahead of it before long. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 19:51:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R0pEkq007844 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:51:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F52DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:50:22 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:50:23 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R0oMU16602 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:50:22 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 6A1812B571; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF7E2B1D0 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > touches on my costume, read 1/3 of -Atonement- whew, can't believe > I got so much done. It won't happen again anytime soon. At the risk I thought Atonement was really really good, though pretty painful. I really got into it. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 20:03:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R13Vkq007997 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:03:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F530E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:02:39 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:02:39 -0400 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R12cU17320 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:02:39 -0400 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 539332B571; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336AE2B1D0 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive In-Reply-To: <004301c27c9e$06a8d4c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Doris Markland wrote: > Could it be that I am hoping there will be > some conversation on the list that isn't > about really really personal trivia? > Does it matter what the stimulus is? > And how many times have we heard > that list members have more than > one persona? Are you suggesting that we not take everything you say as your real thoughts, necessarily, that you have more than one persona? I think that's what you mean by the last question. That people are treating you as simpler than you are? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 20:50:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R1onkq008748 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:50:49 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F540C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:49:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919196 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:49:56 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R1nuU20380 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:49:56 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9R1ntW09858 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:49:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003301c27d5b$612e10a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:51:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Are you suggesting that we not take everything you say as your real > thoughts, necessarily, that you have more than one persona? > > I think that's what you mean by the last question. That people are > treating you as simpler than you are? > > Ann > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 21:09:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R29Hkq008967 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:09:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F5471@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:08:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:08:25 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R28OU21515 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:08:24 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9R28NW22458 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:08:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003801c27d5d$f7fed9e0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:10:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Are you suggesting that we not take everything you say as your real > thoughts, necessarily, that you have more than one persona? > > I think that's what you mean by the last question. That people are > treating you as simpler than you are? > > Ann No. Not that. Although we are each a slightly different person at different times. Furthermore, people see others through eyes that are full of their own programming anyway. That's why a person is seen a little differently by each person he meets IMO. So the different persona comes about because of the bias of the one who is assessing him. Some people do not see me as I think I'm being seen on this list. It is, in fact, good for a few laughs. So, what's new? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 21:09:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R29skq008976 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:09:55 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5475@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:09:01 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:09:02 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R291U21556 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:09:01 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9R291W22808 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:09:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003d01c27d5e$0dfedec0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003301c27d5b$612e10a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:10:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sorry. I'm shooting blanks. - D. M. > > > > Are you suggesting that we not take everything you say as your real > > thoughts, necessarily, that you have more than one persona? > > > > I think that's what you mean by the last question. That people are > > treating you as simpler than you are? > > > > Ann > > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 21:11:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R2BBkq008989 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:11:12 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04097728@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:10:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:10:19 -0400 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2AIU21685 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:10:18 -0400 Received: from sdn-ap-006neomahp0481.dialsprint.net ([63.186.49.227] helo=pop.mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185csb-0006NT-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:10:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:10:26 -0500 From: Sylvia Edwards Reply-To: s.words@mindspring.com Organization: S.words X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Are you on my birthday list? 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Please click on the following link for me and enter your name and birthday, it only takes a few seconds: http://www.BirthdayAlarm.com/dob/123548a11436b408 Thank you Sly From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 21:16:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R2GOkq009053 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:16:25 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F5497@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:15:32 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:15:32 -0400 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2FWU21984 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:15:32 -0400 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021027021525.ZJAL27756.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 02:15:25 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026090848.02e276f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:07:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: USA PATRIOT Act Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required To Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism" (USA PATRIOT) Act of 2001 was signed into law by President (as adjudicated) Bush one year ago today. The law has its good and bad provisions, and it also has some scary parts which nullify parts of the Bill of Rights. Worse, where it permits scary stuff to happen, it gags the victim, with the side effect of preventing the public from hearing about abuses. The PATRIOT Act is worth knowing more about. The American Civil Liberties Union, the Electronic Privacy Information Center, and the American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression filed a Freedom of Information Act request in August 2002 seeking information about the implementation of the Act; that's turned into a lawsuit this week. More resources about the law itself: US Library of Congress THOMAS service Full text of the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.3162.ENR: American Bar Association, Section of Individual Rights & Responsibilities USA Patriot Act: The Good, the Bad, and the Sunset http://www.abanet.org/irr/hr/winter02/podesta.html Electronic Frontier Foundation Analysis Of The Provisions Of The USA PATRIOT Act That Relate To Online Activities http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011031_eff_usa_patriot_analysis.html Electronic Privacy Information Center "The Act did not, however, provide for the system of checks and balances that traditionally safeguards civil liberties in the face of such legislation." http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/usapatriot/ Center for Constitutional Rights The USA PATRIOT Act: What's So Patriotic About Trampling on the Bill of Rights? http://www.ccr-ny.org/whatsnew/usa_patriot_act.asp American Civil Liberties Union Section 215 FAQ "Section 215 vastly expands the FBI's power to spy on ordinary people living in the United States, including United States citizens and permanent residents." http://www.aclu.org/Privacy/Privacy.cfm?ID=11054&c=130 truthout Repeal the USA Patriot Act "... it utterly relinquishes any semblance of due process, violates the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments, and unacceptably mixes aspects of criminal investigations with aspects of immigration and foreign intelligence laws." http://truthout.com/docs_02/04.02A.JVB.Patriot.htm American Library Association Libraries and the Patriot Legislation http://www.ala.org/washoff/patriot.html American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression "ABFFE is deeply concerned by the potential chilling effect of court orders issued to booksellers under this new law." http://www.abffe.org/fisa_letter.html Center for Democracy & Technology http://www.cdt.org/security/usapatriot/analysis.shtml Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 21:43:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R2hOkq009252 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:43:24 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5520@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:42:31 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:42:31 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2gVU23631 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:42:31 -0400 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2gUt28640 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:42:30 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026224124.009fe330@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:41:46 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I thought Atonement was really really good, though pretty painful. I >really got into it. >Ann Who is the author? What is it about? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 21:49:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R2n1kq009305 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:49:02 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F5545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:48:08 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:48:09 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2m8U23973 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:48:08 -0400 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2m7t29201 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:48:07 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026224701.00a0d080@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:47:23 -0400 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: The Lovely Bones Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of books, has any one here read _The Lovely Bones_? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:04:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R34Jkq009477 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:04:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04097BE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:03:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:03:17 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:FaFBwwgAgNyJoZE0fTKyDT5Qdnm2ykZw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2rHU24300 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:53:17 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7766F2FEDD for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 46EB57C11; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The Lovely Bones In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026224701.00a0d080@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 26, 2002 10:47:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:53:16 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027025316.46EB57C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > Speaking of books, has any one here read _The Lovely Bones_? No, but I've heard about it--I heard the author interviewed on the radio. It's gotten a lot of good reviews. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:07:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R374kq009499 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:07:04 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F573F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:06:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:06:05 -0400 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R2u5U24523 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:56:05 -0400 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9R2u5hA026409 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:56:05 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:56:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Lovely Bones In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026224701.00a0d080@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, bonniev wrote: >Speaking of books, has any one here read _The Lovely Bones_? not yet. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:09:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R39Ekq009518 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:09:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F577D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:08:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2924878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:08:21 -0400 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R38LU26924 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:08:21 -0400 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-32.panax.com [65.114.190.32]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R38Kt31634 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:08:20 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026230637.00a0b630@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:07:36 -0400 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: The Lovely Bones In-Reply-To: <20021027025316.46EB57C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026224701.00a0d080@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Speaking of books, has any one here read _The Lovely Bones_? > >No, but I've heard about it--I heard the author interviewed on the >radio. It's gotten a lot of good reviews. --Karen I've read a lot of good reviews also but the topic of the book, a young girl writing to her parents from heaven after her rape and murder, sounds pretty bizarre. And more than a bit of a downer. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:21:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R3LCkq009656 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:21:14 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F57D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:20:19 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2924996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:20:19 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:SMqQPUKF/G3IRQ5+Cqkq99Bf66MIB8az@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R3AIU27121 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:10:19 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063F2FDD0 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 358667C11; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The Lovely Bones In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026230637.00a0b630@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 26, 2002 11: 7:36 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:10:18 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027031018.358667C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I've read a lot of good reviews also but the topic of the book, a young > girl writing to her parents from heaven after her rape and murder, sounds > pretty bizarre. And more than a bit of a downer. Well, check it out on Amazon; there's 42 pages of excerpt. It doesn't sound like it's a downer, but I'm staying away from anything that might be, these days. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:29:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R3Tvkq009776 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:29:57 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F5803@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:29:03 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:29:03 -0400 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R3T3U28248 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:29:03 -0400 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9R3T2W14707 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:29:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <006501c27d69$3ada0540$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026224701.00a0d080@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: The Lovely Bones Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:30:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Speaking of books, has any one here read _The Lovely Bones_? > > --bonniev No, but I know someone who is reading it and she couldn't wait to get her hands on it, was really looking forward to it, for what reason I do not know. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:41:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R3fakq009878 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:41:36 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F584F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:40:42 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:40:43 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OcbCL9ByahQo1scwnpHHUGGOPvR7fyIH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R3UhU28348 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:30:43 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4AB2FEB1 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6745A7C1A; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The Lovely Bones In-Reply-To: <006501c27d69$3ada0540$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Oct 26, 2002 10:30:42 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:30:42 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027033042.6745A7C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > Speaking of books, has any one here read _The Lovely Bones_? > > > > --bonniev > > No, but I know someone who is reading > it and she couldn't wait to get her hands > on it, was really looking forward to it, > for what reason I do not know. It seems to me like it'd be up your alley. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:55:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R3t7kq009982 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:55:07 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409803D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:54:14 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926243 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:54:13 -0400 Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R3sDU30226 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:54:13 -0400 Received: from user-vcaun0a.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.92.10] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185eVA-0001ES-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:54:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021026212319.6DF467C1E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021026212319.6DF467C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:48:25 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Hell Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU - Was awakened at 7A by the cat crying and complaining. I assumed it was another urinary blockage and drove to the vet, feeling pretty sure that I wouldn't be returning with the cat -- I won't put him through another round of catheterization and hospitalization. Was entirely prepared to spend the next 20 minutes letting him die in my arms. Turns out it was gas pains. Yogurt, antibiotics (for the urinary infection that's still bothering him) and anti-nausea meds, and we were back home again. - Fell asleep for a while -- I'd been up until 2a last night. Woke up shortly after 1. Unfortunately, I was supposed to be in Oakland at 1 to pick up the keys to my new place. Leapt into the car, booked across the Bay Bridge and arrived at two. My landperson hadn't been able to stay, but she left me a note telling me where she'd hidden the keys. Retrieved the keys, did some prowling around the place and brainstorming with Ben about what should go where. On the way out of the parking lot, backed into another car. No damage to my beast and all I could see on theirs was a small scratch on the corner of the fender, but I left a note anyway. (Haven't heard anything back yet.) - Stopped for gas at a station near the house. The gas was really cheap, but the station was funky enough that you couldn't use a credit card in the pump -- you had to give it to a cashier. - Took off to the office to pick up some cash. On the way, got a cell phone call from the landperson. A second shoe had dropped -- I'd borrowed the dough from my dad for the deposit on the place, deposited it in my bank account, and written the check to the landperson. Meanwhile, however, fucking Wells Fargo decided to put a hold on my deposit so my check to her bounced and the checks she'd written to *her* landpersons bounced. I apologized profusely (although it wasn't technically my fault), and drove directly over to her apartment to repay her for the fees it had cost her. - Egged on by Ben, who pointed out that I'd screwed up almost every single thing I'd done so far that day and that coffee was at this point a need, not a want, we ran into a deli and got a couple of sandwiches and a coffee for me and a coke for him. I promptly spilled most of the contents of the sandwich, which seemed to be primarily mustard, down the front of my gray velour shirt. - Stopped at Wells Fargo to get some more cash and discovered that I'd left my ATM card back at the gas station. Went inside to write and cash a check. - Drove to Petaluma -- at this point an hour later than I'd told the guy I was going to be there -- to pick up a bed I was buying for Jay. (When we split, we agreed that I'd buy back his half of the nice platform bed we bought last year. I offered to put the money toward a comparable, smaller bed for him. After some hunting, I found one on Craigslist at a fair price and bought it.) It took the seller, Ben and me about an hour and considerable creativity to disassemble the damn thing and stuff it into the back of the van; even then, Ben had to ride practically doubled up in the passenger seat, and the back door was tied down with twine. Now I have to figure out where to store it until Friday when Jay moves into his new place, and bribe Ben and his friend Derek to unload it and put it there. Oh, yes -- and when I went to pay the guy for the bed, I discovered I had $25 too little cash -- I'd forgotten to allow for paying back the landperson when I decided how large a check to write at the bank. I borrowed $10 from Ben and wrote a check for the remaining $15. Very embarrassing. - At this point, my back felt like it had been twisted like a telephone cord. I called and cancelled my reservation for the party I'd intended to attend tonight. Also called both of the people I'd had dates to play with to let them know I wouldn't be there. - We headed back to Oakland -- almost an hour out of the way, in dense traffic, with exhaust coming into the car through the open back gate -- to reacquire my ATM card. We got there to find that the station was closed -- at 7:30 on a Saturday night! - Finally home at 8:30 PM. Two basic errands -- pick up the keys and buy the bed -- had taken seven and a half hours. I'm going to drug myself, eat a large bowl of ice cream, and lie in bed dozing and watching TV all night. Ack. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:58:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R3wEkq009998 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:58:15 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F58CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:57:21 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:57:21 -0400 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R3vLU30464 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:57:21 -0400 Received: from user-vcaun0a.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.92.10] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185eYB-0004WR-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:57:20 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026194443.00b63c48@mail.panax.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026180033.00b5c6f8@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021026194443.00b63c48@mail.panax.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:51:31 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Yeah, ain't it great? I like to make soups. Last night I added some >garlic, cranberry beans, tomatoes, andouille sausage, carrots, and celery >to my meat stock. We had it with fresh bread. Lasagna is Bonnie's >area--I just grate the cheese and gather the herbs. I am very much looking forward to having the kind of life where I'm home during the day to make soup. I make very good soup and I haven't had the chance to make any in a long time. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Oct 26 23:50:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R4oekq010399 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:50:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5AD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 0:49:46 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2929321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:49:46 -0400 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R4nkU02461 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:49:46 -0400 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R4njc12255 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:49:45 -0700 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9R4niH9011197; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021026215108.00a5ee60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:51:44 -0700 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: References: <20021026212319.6DF467C1E@yellow.rahul.net> <20021026212319.6DF467C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Poor baby. Really. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 00:08:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R58okq010528 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:08:50 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5B87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 1:07:56 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2930035 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:07:56 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f75.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R57uU03859 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:07:56 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:07:50 -0700 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 05:07:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 05:07:49 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 05:07:50.0721 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC501B10:01C27D76] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > put the finishing > > touches on my costume, >What is your costume? A ray of light? Gawd, nothing so facy. I went as a scarecrow. Everybody else had on ho-hum costumes (wizard, grim reaper etc.) so it worked out ok. The friend who hosted the party lives on a farm in horse country, Maryland, out in the middle of nowhere. There was a huge bonfire outside and we sat around and watched the stars for a while. It was nice. I met this English guy who's a big fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers - I found that a tad weird. so long, DST, -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 00:12:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R5CIkq010544 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:12:19 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5B9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 1:11:24 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2930107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:11:25 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f20.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R5BOU04052 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:11:24 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:11:16 -0700 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 05:11:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 05:11:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 05:11:16.0212 (UTC) FILETIME=[46CB8B40:01C27D77] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU karen: >The shortening days and the rain have turned me into a literal couch >potato: Heat and humidity does that to me. I get invigorated in fall. Sorry to use the w word - work's been really busy, it was nice to do something different. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 00:24:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R5Oukq010911 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:24:56 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5BD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 1:24:02 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2930239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:24:02 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f10.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R5O2U04596 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:24:02 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:23:56 -0700 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 05:23:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 05:23:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 05:23:56.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[0C167B70:01C27D79] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: >I'm jealous. I'm spending my weekend putting together unit >plans. I'd like to do something other than school -- even >clean out a camper or garage. > >Whine whine whine. :-( One of the benefits of not being in academia anymore is getting my weekends back. I'd forgotten what that was like - not having to work during the weekend. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 00:34:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R5Y5kq010980 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:34:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5C08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 1:33:11 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2930226 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:33:11 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rTGUOFghLSh8VS0mxEMIJkmHmv+xFe3A@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R5NAU04564 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:23:10 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0042FEF4 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7067F7C09; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Oct 27, 2002 5:11:15 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:23:08 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027052309.7067F7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > karen: > >The shortening days and the rain have turned me into a literal couch > >potato: > > Heat and humidity does that to me. I get invigorated in fall. Well, heat and humidity do that to me, too, especially at first. I did end up turning the heat on, just to get the chill off the house. > Sorry to use the w word - work's been really busy, it was > nice to do something different. I remember that feeling... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 00:36:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9R5aHkq010999 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 00:36:18 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F5C1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 1:35:23 -0400 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2930252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:35:23 -0400 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:6Kgd5mZnNx9/5mDRhkFSVrNTfU+QCkiO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9R5PMU04647 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:25:23 -0400 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE962FEC9 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 418EE7C12; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Weekend In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Oct 27, 2002 5:23:55 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:25:22 -0700 (PDT) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027052522.418EE7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > One of the benefits of not being in academia anymore is > getting my weekends back. I'd forgotten what that was > like - not having to work during the weekend. YES! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 07:03:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RD3Wkq014130 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:03:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6499@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 8:02:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:02:35 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RD2ZU32098 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:02:35 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4N00I035KAYN@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:02:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:03:55 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Weekend To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBBE43B.8020301@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <001001c27d48$9f9bcb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBB2905.8060808@swbell.net> <002001c27d52$cd2c0680$9d0332d1@0018079268> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: >>I'm jealous. I'm spending my weekend putting together unit >>plans. I'd like to do something other than school -- even >>clean out a camper or garage. >> >>Whine whine whine. >> >> >> >>-- >>Rita Rouvalis Chapman >>rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org >>http://www.etext.org/~rita >> > > Well, you had kind of a late start, > didn't you? You'll get caught up > and ahead of it before long. > Next year, when I'm not making it all up from scratch. I have to do so much planning this weekend because I have parent-teacher conferences next week and won't have time at night. But I have Friday off! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 07:08:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RD8Akq014172 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:08:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04098E0C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 8:07:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2937052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:07:12 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RD7CU32307 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:07:12 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4N00K3V5S0ZZ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:07:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:08:32 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Weekend To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBBE550.9020801@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Rita: > >> I'm jealous. I'm spending my weekend putting together unit >> plans. I'd like to do something other than school -- even >> clean out a camper or garage. >> >> Whine whine whine. > > > :-( > > One of the benefits of not being in academia anymore is > getting my weekends back. I'd forgotten what that was > like - not having to work during the weekend. Yeah, that's the sucky thing about the job. In a few years it should be better, though. And summers off! I have it better than my sister and brother, who have to juggle working holidays -- I'll never have to connive to get Christmas off. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 07:10:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RDAEkq014187 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:10:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F64BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 8:09:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2937080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:09:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RD9GU32382 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:09:16 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-27.panax.com [63.163.41.27]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RD9Ft06565 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:09:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027080647.00b37ca8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:09:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026194443.00b63c48@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021026180033.00b5c6f8@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021026194443.00b63c48@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:51 PM 10/26/2002 -0700, janet wrote: >I am very much looking forward to having the kind of life where I'm >home during the day to make soup. After your day yesterday, you need it. >I make very good soup and I haven't >had the chance to make any in a long time. My soups now don't take all that long but you're right, making the stock is a most-of-the-day thing. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 07:19:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RDJ9kq014241 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:19:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04098E3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 8:18:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2937068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:17:56 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RD7uU32325 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:07:56 -0500 Received: from qfgf92108.com (63-109-249-170.reverse.newskies.net [63.109.249.170]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9RD7rm13201 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:07:54 -0500 Message-Id: <200210271307.g9RD7rm13201@pasta.cc.uga.edu> From: "MRS IYAYI OSAZ" Reply-To: mrsiyayiosaz@epatra.com Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 01:07:58 -0800 Subject: AM MRS IYAYI OSAZ PLS HELP MY FAMILY NOW X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id g9RD7uU32326 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU To: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU FROM Mrs IYAYI OSAZ Son IYAYI SAMUEL JR SOUTH AFRICA I am writting to seek for your noble and professional assistance in investing fund my late husband died and left behind. By introduction,Iam Mrs IYAYI OSAZ a South African and wife of late Chief IYAYI SAMUEL. Chife IYAYI SAMUEL my late husband was a well known Cocoa dealer in the whole west Africa before he died. After his return business trip from Abidjan-Cote d?Ivoire he was attacked by unknown assassins in his house where he was rushed to the hospital and later died after some days. (May his soul rest in peace) Before he died in the hospital he disclosed to me about the sum of TWENTY TWO million US dollars ($22.,000.000) he deposited in a private security / safe deposit company in HOLLAND. According to my late husband he deposited the money in a trunk box and decleared it as family treasure for security reason, he instructed me to claim the money and invest it overseas with a trustworthy person/company for our future life. This is my reason for contacting you to know if you can render me a good assistance in which the money will be transfer to your bank account for a lucrative investments you will advice in your country or somewhere you will introduce. Please Iam appealing to you to assist me hence I have it in mind to establish a rewarding relationship with you . I cannot put this money in to my account here and because of the fast that our customs demands here that i mourn my LATE husband for NINE MONTHS which by then i do not know what can happen to the money and the dumurrage charge will be too much thus we need your assistance urgently Note that immediately the money is been transferred to your CARE you will then make arrangement for MY only SON coming over to meet you for the investment. Please help a widow woman like me as you will never have any thing to regret. Looking forward to receive your positive response. Thanks and God bless you Mrs IYAYI OSAZ. Son IYAYI SAMUEL JR. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:14:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REEDkq014646 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:14:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F65E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:13:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:13:15 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REDEU03795 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:13:14 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust159.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.161]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:13:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBBF510.AA193F47@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:15:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you on my birthday list? References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sylvia Edwards wrote: > > I would like to be reminded of your birthday each year using an > excellent service offered by BirthdayAlarm.com. > > Please click on the following link for me and enter your name and > birthday, it only takes a few seconds: > > http://www.BirthdayAlarm.com/dob/123548a11436b408 I entered and hit Save, but it just keeps repeating. Do I have to become a member? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:18:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REIBkq014689 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:18:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F65FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:17:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:17:13 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f55.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REHDU04065 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:17:13 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:17:08 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:17:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:17:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 14:17:08.0157 (UTC) FILETIME=[8879BED0:01C27DC3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >I copied the relevant portion of a FAQ about the Texas Open-Container >Law in response to Betty's I don't think there was anything in your post to indicate that that was what you were posting. Except the quotation marks, which were just confusing. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:21:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RELkkq014714 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:21:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6614@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:20:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:20:49 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REKmU04288 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:20:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:20:43 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:20:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: url for dan Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:20:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 14:20:43.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[08AE5520:01C27DC4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Tushar Samant >On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 12:35:17PM -0400, Marie Ascher wrote: > > I believe I have found mine. > > > > Mrashi > >This is highly suspect as a name, in my opinion. It sounds like how a person with a Quaalude habit might say my full name. And it's a anagram of Rashmi. Actually, the description of "Marie" does describe me better than "Mrashi" does. Although I don't remember the details. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:22:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REMEkq014719 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:22:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6616@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:21:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:21:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REBGU03684 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:11:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9REBFhA029398 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:11:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:11:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The Lovely Bones In-Reply-To: <006501c27d69$3ada0540$9d0332d1@0018079268> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Doris Markland wrote: >No, but I know someone who is reading >it and she couldn't wait to get her hands >on it, was really looking forward to it, >for what reason I do not know. That's about how I feel. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:25:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REP8kq014734 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:25:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6635@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:24:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938260 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:24:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REEBU03847 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:14:11 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9REEBhA030000 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:14:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:14:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Janet Hardy wrote: >- Was awakened at 7A by the cat crying and complaining. I assumed it [etc.] What a GREAT entry! (You didn't make all that up just to amuse us, did you?) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:26:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REQtkq014743 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:26:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6640@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:25:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:25:57 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REPvU04630 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:25:57 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:25:52 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:25:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:25:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 14:25:52.0015 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0B821F0:01C27DC4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev 1. But as of this minute I plan to be >here. I'm >even thinking of making cheesecake and apple pie and creme brulee for the >fest. That reminds me. I want your creme brulee recipe, since you say you do it best. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:28:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RESlkq014752 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:28:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F664A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:27:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:27:50 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RERnU04812 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:27:49 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RERmc20289 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:27:48 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RERmH9009854; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:27:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027062903.00a339f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:29:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Are you on my birthday list? In-Reply-To: <3DBBF510.AA193F47@valstar.net> References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Add Elwood for today! Happy Birthday, Big Guy. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:34:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REYEkq014802 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:34:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6664@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:33:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:33:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REXGU05322 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:33:16 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-133.panax.com [65.114.190.133]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REXFt18249 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:33:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027093236.009e38a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:33:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That reminds me. I want your creme brulee recipe, since you say you do it >best. --Marie O.k. But remember that it isn't just the recipe. Practice makes perfect. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:37:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REbAkq014822 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:37:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F667C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:36:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2938931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:36:13 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REaDU05625 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:36:13 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-133.panax.com [65.114.190.133]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REaBt18657 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:36:11 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027093428.00a08cc0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:34:51 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: creme brulee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's what I wrote to Larry last December when someone gave him a creme brulee kit: It's very easy to undercook creme brulee. I do it myself sometimes. I like it better when it turns out solid. But I've had creme brulee in restaurants where it was runny. It definitely tastes good either way. I made up my recipe by looking at a number of different ones years ago. Here it is: Makes six: 3 cups heavy cream 6 egg yolks 6 Tablespoons sugar 1 teaspoon vanilla Brown sugar for top Heat heavy cream over medium heat just until bubbles form around edge. Combine egg yolks and sugar. Beat at high speed. At low speed, add vanilla and hot cream. Poor mixture into six custard cups. (I've found that wider, less deep custard cups work better. I bought mine at an antique store -- one of the old Jewel Tea patterns.) Place custard cups in a glass cake pan filled with hot water, so that the water comes halfway up the sides of the cups. (Be careful to not use something like a huge roasting pan so that you are actually steaming the stuff instead of baking it. I did that once at someone else's house. Mistake.) Bake in 300 degree oven for an hour. If they still seem rather liquidy after an hour (just giggle the pan) bake for another 15 minutes. Take out of water bath, cool on counter, refrigerate for at least four hours, overnight is better. Before serving sprinkle a layer of brown sugar on top of each custard, place in pan, and put under broiler, watching closely so that the sugar carmelizes and doesn't break into flame. Of course, one can do this with one of those little blow torches, which I've often been tempted to buy. One can also put the custards in a ice cube bath while they under the broiler. The idea is for the custard to stay cold while the brown sugar gets hard. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:52:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REqqkq014915 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:52:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F66DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:51:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:51:54 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f124.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.124]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9REpsU06783 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:51:54 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:51:48 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:51:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: So We are Naive Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:51:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 14:51:48.0625 (UTC) FILETIME=[6087F810:01C27DC8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Doris Markland >one persona? Take that Ann Borkin, >for instance. You're never gonna know >what her real thoughts are. I don't agree. I think la Bork is pretty clear in a translucent kind of way. You've got to read between the lines, but that's half the fun. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 08:54:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9REsQkq014922 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:54:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F66E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 9:53:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:53:28 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RErSU06963 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:53:28 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id CD1792B56E; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9922B1D0 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:53:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 06:53:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026224124.009fe330@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU n Sat, 26 Oct 2002, bonniev wrote: > > Who is the author? What is it about? Ian McEwan or MacEwan or MacEwen Or McEwen. I hate telling people about books, it feels like the ten thumbs on my hands trying to speak. So I clipped this from Amazon: On the hottest day of the summer of 1935, thirteen-year-old Briony Tallis sees her older sister Cecilia strip off her clothes and plunge into the fountain in the garden of their country house. Watching Cecilia is their housekeeper¹s son Robbie Turner, a childhood friend who, along with Briony¹s sister, has recently graduated from Cambridge. By the end of that day the lives of all three will have been changed forever. Robbie and Cecilia will have crossed a boundary they had never before dared to approach and will have become victims of the younger girl¹s scheming imagination. And Briony will have committed a dreadful crime, the guilt for which will color her entire life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:02:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RF23kq014970 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:02:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6710@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:01:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:01:05 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RF15U07486 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:01:05 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RF14c00442 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:01:04 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RF13H9031413; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:01:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027070210.00a32b70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:03:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: So We are Naive In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:51 AM 10/27/2002 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >>From: Doris Markland >>one persona? Take that Ann Borkin, >>for instance. You're never gonna know >>what her real thoughts are. > >I don't agree. I think la Bork is pretty clear in a translucent kind of way. >You've got to read between the lines, but that's half the fun. Can you interpret JMW? Sometimes I can't read over or under the lines. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:02:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RF2vkq014980 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:02:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6717@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:01:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:01:59 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f150.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RF1xU07532 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:01:59 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:01:53 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:01:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: up and out Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:01:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:01:53.0814 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9407B60:01C27DC9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Neal Traven >I definitely was. Not that that's worth a plugged nickel. What a Neal thing to say. _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:07:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RF76kq015005 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:07:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6729@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:06:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:06:08 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f172.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.172]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RF68U07769 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:06:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:06:03 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:06:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:06:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:06:03.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DD57050:01C27DCA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >>That reminds me. I want your creme brulee recipe, since you say you do it >>best. --Marie > >O.k. But remember that it isn't just the recipe. Practice makes perfect. Understood. But I've got to start with the recipe. Bring it on! Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RF91kq015019 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6734@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:08:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:08:03 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RF83U07929 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:08:03 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RF81c03100 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:08:01 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RF81H9032567; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:08:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027070923.00a382d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:10:04 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: up and out In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:01 AM 10/27/2002 -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >>From: Neal Traven >>I definitely was. Not that that's worth a plugged nickel. > >What a Neal thing to say. One of the giants? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:12:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFCLkq015043 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:12:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6742@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:11:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:11:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFBNU08123 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:11:23 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:11:17 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:11:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: creme brulee Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:11:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:11:17.0516 (UTC) FILETIME=[193E94C0:01C27DCB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm a little surprised you don't use vanilla bean. One of the reasons I am asking today is because I just bought some beans yesterday... Also, do you prefer the shallow creme brulee cups -- like mini quiche pans, or a deeper custard cup? Thanks! Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com >From: bonniev >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: creme brulee >Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:34:51 -0500 > >Here's what I wrote to Larry last December when someone gave him a creme >brulee kit: > >It's very easy to undercook creme brulee. I do it myself sometimes. I >like it better when it turns out solid. But I've had creme brulee in >restaurants where it was runny. It definitely tastes good either way. > >I made up my recipe by looking at a number of different ones years >ago. Here it is: > >Makes six: >3 cups heavy cream >6 egg yolks >6 Tablespoons sugar >1 teaspoon vanilla >Brown sugar for top > >Heat heavy cream over medium heat just until bubbles form around >edge. Combine egg yolks and sugar. Beat at high speed. At low speed, add >vanilla and hot cream. Poor mixture into six custard cups. (I've found >that wider, less deep custard cups work better. I bought mine at an >antique store -- one of the old Jewel Tea patterns.) Place custard cups in >a glass cake pan filled with hot water, so that the water comes halfway up >the sides of the cups. (Be careful to not use something like a huge >roasting pan so that you are actually steaming the stuff instead of baking >it. I did that once at someone else's house. Mistake.) > >Bake in 300 degree oven for an hour. If they still seem rather liquidy >after an hour (just giggle the pan) bake for another 15 minutes. Take out >of water bath, cool on counter, refrigerate for at least four hours, >overnight is better. > >Before serving sprinkle a layer of brown sugar on top of each custard, >place in pan, and put under broiler, watching closely so that the sugar >carmelizes and doesn't break into flame. Of course, one can do this with >one of those little blow torches, which I've often been tempted to >buy. One can also put the custards in a ice cube bath while they under the >broiler. The idea is for the custard to stay cold while the brown sugar >gets hard. > > > --bonniev _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:13:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFDtkq015059 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:13:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F674A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:12:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:12:57 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f69.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFCvU08208 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:12:57 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:12:51 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:12:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: So We are Naive Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:12:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:12:51.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[5174AFF0:01C27DCB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Can you interpret JMW? Sometimes I can't read over or under the lines. > >Betty Often not. But I generally understand his position. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:15:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFFJkq015087 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:15:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040991E2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:14:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:14:21 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f180.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.180]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFEKU08293 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:14:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:14:15 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:14:15 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: up and out Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:14:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:14:15.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[8339EDC0:01C27DCB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Betty >>>I definitely was. Not that that's worth a plugged nickel. >> >>What a Neal thing to say. > >One of the giants? The original chopped liver. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:18:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFIikq015104 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6765@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:17:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:17:46 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFHkU08560 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:17:46 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-26.panax.com [65.114.190.26]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFHit24699 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:17:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027101548.009fe3f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:17:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: creme brulee In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm a little surprised you don't use vanilla bean. One of the reasons I am >asking today is because I just bought some beans yesterday... Sorry to disappoint. I'm sure you can use them somehow instead of the liquid vanilla. >Also, do you prefer the shallow creme brulee cups -- like mini quiche pans, >or a deeper custard cup? Mine are somewhat deeper than the very shallow ones I've seen. I think I prefer deeper. You get more!! >Thanks! --Marie You are very welcome. Where's my Moose Munch? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:47:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFldkq015252 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:47:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040992B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:46:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:46:37 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f36.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFkbU10732 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:46:37 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:46:32 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:46:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:46:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:46:32.0097 (UTC) FILETIME=[05A20910:01C27DD0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'd say you guys also get an A+. >A Saturday well spent. > > -D. M. Bruce and I got up and took the drive over to Woodbury Commons so I could get the theft-detectors removed from the shirts I bought two weeks ago. He'd never been there and had no idea it was so close -- just across the Hudson and south on the Palisades a bit -- 30 minutes door to door of glorious foliage -- this was the peak weekend for sure -- I am so happy that we live in such a beautiful place. At WC -- which is like a shopping amusement park -- he was able to find a pair of new shoes, and we stocked up on some things from the Harry & David and Williams Sonoma outlets -- food related items mostly. We then followed through on our plan to stop in at a local pub for lunch and to watch some of the Notre Dame-Florida State game. We sat at the bar, and I had a cup of carrot-vegetable soup, and a grilled cheese with bacon and tomato on rye. A perfect lunch. From there we went over to Circuit City to look at car stereos -- my Hyundai didn't come with a CD player, so that's what I'm getting for Christmas. We didn't buy, just looked. Back at home, I had some projects -- primarily dealing with the mess which is/was my closet. It is now in perfect order, summer clothes all away, remaining articles sorted by type of garment. I am generally a slob about all of this, and it took a while, and actually isn't quite done, but close. After some time I decided to get things together for dinner. Have decided I will cook every single thing in the Rao's cookbook because it is perfect simple old fashioned Italian (Italian-American) food, so decided on a Penne with Sausage and Cabbage dish. Needed some ingredients so drove toward Yorktown for there is the greatest concentration of quality shopping over there. Went to the Food Emporium, then to Taste of Italy (for fresh sausages -- a mix of hot and sweet -- and Bronx bread), stopped by my favorite wine store where an was going on -- had a couple tastes from around the world (from Spain to South Africa to British Columbia) as I shopped -- bought 10 bottles of wine, all at 20% off. Dinner was quite delicious, nice and garlicky, the cabbage adding good texture, the hot sausage slightly infusing the whole dish, served it with a beet and asparagus vinaigrette starter, a very nice Barbera d'Alba, and of course the Italian loaf I had procured. Later Bruce and I settled in downstairs with a DVD -- "Scotland, PA" which is a modern version of MacBeth. Amusing and silly film. Throughout all of this I suffered with a lower back pain, so I popped a pain killer and slept on a heating pad. I am now about 99% cured, so I ought to go tend to the leaves. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:49:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFnskq015262 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:49:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F681A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:48:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:48:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f109.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.109]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFmuU10906 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:48:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:48:50 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:48:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: creme brulee Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:48:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:48:50.0826 (UTC) FILETIME=[585266A0:01C27DD0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >Mine are somewhat deeper than the very shallow ones I've seen. I think I >prefer deeper. You get more!! But with the shallow ones, you get a greater sugar shell to custard ratio. > >You are very welcome. Where's my Moose Munch? It's in my cabinet. Bought it yesterday. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:53:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFqxkq015273 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:52:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6830@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:52:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:52:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.94]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFq1U11090 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:52:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:51:55 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:51:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:51:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:51:55.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[C66543B0:01C27DD0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rashmi Murthy >It was nice. I met this English guy who's a big fan >of the Pittsburgh Steelers - I found that a tad weird. If he's about your age, he probably discovered American football during the Terry Bradshaw years. At that time they were like the Dallas Cowboys became just after. It's like my husband being a big Manchester United fan. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:55:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFtXkq015283 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:55:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040992E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:54:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:54:34 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFsYU11246 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:54:34 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFsXc19873 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:54:33 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RFsUH9029931 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:54:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027075619.00a448d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:56:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: So We are Naive In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:12 AM 10/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: >>Can you interpret JMW? Sometimes I can't read over or under the lines. >> >>Betty > >Often not. But I generally understand his position. Well, yes, there is little doubt there. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:55:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFtdkq015286 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:55:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F683E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:54:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:54:41 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f112.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.112]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFsfU11251 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:54:41 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:54:35 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:54:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:54:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 15:54:35.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[25CFFDE0:01C27DD1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >My soups now don't take all that long but you're right, making the stock is >a most-of-the-day thing. I've got a chicken in the pot right now. Prepping for some good soups to come. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:56:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFulkq015291 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:56:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6844@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:55:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:55:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:uSb6j/bexK8QN46l/VRX1vQZAHKi9oug@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFjnU10685 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:45:49 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77342FDBE for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A65607C1B; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:45:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: No one warned me! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:45:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027154548.A65607C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't turn my clocks back! I couldn't figure out why my computer was an hour ahead of my alarm clock, so I went back to bed. But now I'm awake enough to figure it out. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:57:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFv6kq015296 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:57:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040992ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:56:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:56:07 -0500 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFu7U11320 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:56:07 -0500 Received: from user-vcaun8g.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.93.16] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185plm-0006Vj-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:56:07 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:50:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hell Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Janet Hardy wrote: > >>- Was awakened at 7A by the cat crying and complaining. I assumed it >[etc.] > >What a GREAT entry! (You didn't make all that up just to amuse us, did >you?) I wish. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 09:59:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RFxZkq015307 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:59:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6856@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 10:58:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:58:37 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFwaU11536 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:58:36 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RFwZc21559 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:58:35 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RFwYH9026643 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:58:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027080006.00a3fb90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:00:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:50 AM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: >>On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Janet Hardy wrote: >> >>>- Was awakened at 7A by the cat crying and complaining. I assumed it >>[etc.] >> >>What a GREAT entry! (You didn't make all that up just to amuse us, did >>you?) > >I wish. > >Janet Here is hoping today is a much better day, Janet. My heater just came on. It' chilly out there. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 10:01:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RG1Kkq015338 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:01:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6860@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 11:00:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:00:22 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RG0MU11746 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:00:22 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9RG0LW23814 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:00:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002001c27dd2$2ff22e00$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:02:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good Saturday Report, Marie. I enjoyed it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 10:18:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RGIakq015440 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:18:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F68BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 11:17:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:17:37 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RGHbU13057 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:17:37 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-62.panax.com [63.163.42.62]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RGHat00409 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:17:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027111637.009f7140@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:17:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: creme brulee In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>You are very welcome. Where's my Moose Munch? > >It's in my cabinet. Bought it yesterday. >Marie Well, now, that doesn't do ME any good. Get your aching back up off the couch and package that stuff up so that you can take it to the post office on your lunch break tomorrow. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 10:21:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RGLqkq015455 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F68D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 11:20:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:20:54 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f169.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RGKrU13287 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:20:54 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:20:48 -0800 Received: from 209.246.86.86 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:20:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.86.86] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: creme brulee Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:20:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 16:20:48.0484 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF55CA40:01C27DD4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >Well, now, that doesn't do ME any good. Get your aching back up off the >couch and package that stuff up so that you can take it to the post office >on your lunch break tomorrow. Lunch break? HAH! What's that? (yes, ma'am) Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 10:46:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RGkNkq015576 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:46:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 11:45:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:45:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5D/LRlWEUgrputpKByT3VyY0qEASGzlW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RGZNU14188 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:35:23 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538492FECB for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2265C7C0C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:35:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: weekend In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Oct 27, 2002 10:46:31 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:35:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027163523.2265C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > Have decided I will cook > every single thing in the Rao's cookbook because it is perfect simple old > fashioned Italian (Italian-American) food, so decided on a Penne with > Sausage and Cabbage dish. This looks like a good cookbook. Sucks to Lidia! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 10:47:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RGlckq015583 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:47:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F697B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 11:46:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:46:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jlwsCLgSfsuhmlf+SLNB21b+UpfH1tKr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RGadU14268 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:36:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D227B2FE39 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 71B837C10; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:36:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Oct 27, 2002 9:17: 7 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:36:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027163638.71B837C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > >I copied the relevant portion of a FAQ about the Texas Open-Container > >Law in response to Betty's > > I don't think there was anything in your post to indicate that that was what > you were posting. Except the quotation marks, which were just confusing. No, you're right, there wasn't. It was exactly similar in form to the other entries, and I seldom write If questions to myself. I clearly overestimated my audience. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 10:55:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RGt1kq015604 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:55:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F699A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 11:54:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:54:03 -0500 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RGs2U15596 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:54:02 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.30.2f72f2f6 (4362) for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:53:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <30.2f72f2f6.2aed741f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:53:51 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hell Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, I'm glad it was only gas pains; any urinary infection in a cat is horrible. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 11:35:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RHZlkq015836 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:35:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6AF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 12:34:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2943080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:34:48 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RHYmU18880 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:34:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.43]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027173627.JGWV15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC23B2.FA5D7BE5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:34:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just did my dead-cow thing and this time opened it up and examined it before eating it. A Wendy's ordinary hamburger includes mayonnaise, a tiny bit of mustard, and a very tiny dab of ketchup. I had to study it carefully to make sure it was ketchup -- at first I thought it was just ooze from the tomatoes. Spencer did just fine alone while I was in Jackson. My house is still wall-to-wall bowls of food and water. Guess I should start picking up some of them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 11:54:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RHs9kq015907 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:54:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6BBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 12:53:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2943592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:53:10 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RHrAU20348 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:53:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.4]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027175449.RUFS27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:54:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC2800.32A5B692@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:53:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: up and out - BKD's last word References: <3DBA018C.D3785712@maynor.net> <3DBACF15.2E0A7516@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > (I still remember how we were having such a good time at Goatroast after > breakfast that we forgot he had a plane to catch and I told him not to worry, > he could always stay in Starkeville and and be the Town Jew.) 8-) I remember the plane thing as not being about forgetting but rather being about confusion over who it was who was taking him to the airport. I can't remember now who I thought was doing it, but I realized just in the nick of time that it was I. I found him sitting calmly in the hotel lobby -- and was never sure whether he knew how close he had come to being stranded there. The part about The Town Jew doesn't work, though. I don't really know how the percentages of various religions would turn out in a survey of Starkville, but I'm using my lunch group as a microcosm right now and have broken the regulars in it down to these rough numbers (the only reason I know in most cases is that we sometimes talk about religion at lunch and people tend to say what brand they are): Catholic 5, Jewish 4, Episcopalian 3, Presbyterian (of the liberal variety, not of the Baptisty variety) 3, Methodist 1, Mormon 1/2 (i.e., not really a regular at the table), No Religion 3. These numbers aren't precise. I just ran faces of regulars through my head quickly and labeled them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 11:55:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RHtWkq015916 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:55:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04099696@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 12:54:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2943621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:54:33 -0500 Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RHsXU20404 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:54:33 -0500 Received: from user-vcauoq3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.67] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185rcN-0002Sa-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:54:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <30.2f72f2f6.2aed741f@aol.com> References: <30.2f72f2f6.2aed741f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:48:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hell Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, I'm glad it was only gas pains; any urinary infection in a cat >is horrible. Tell me about it. We've been through, in rough order: about six different rounds of antibiotics, muscle relaxants and anti-inflammatories, numerous tests, surgery to remove a small flotilla of bladder stones, a subsequent blockage, two bacterial infections, and special food that costs $12 for a small bag. All this on a 14-year-old, insulin-dependent-diabetic cat. Not counting the furniture I've had to replace, we've spent conservatively more than $2000 so far. I was all for putting him to sleep when we found out about the bladder stones -- I saw no reason to put him through all that when there was no guarantee that his quality of life would be adequate afterwards -- but Jay prevailed. However, if he forms more stones or blockages, I *won't* put him through it again -- he was in a lot of pain, and he hates and fears the vet. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 11:59:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RHxjkq015934 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:59:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6BF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 12:58:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2943736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:58:46 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RHwjU20732 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:58:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.10]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027180024.VBIV12147.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC294D.69CF132A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:58:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9F1B5.435B70C5@maynor.net> <3DBAD14D.E519A79A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Right about what? You're deciding that this African American who > > changed his name to a Muslim name turned into an Arab? > > Not Arab, Muslim. I asked because the part you snipped off above this part distinctly said "Arab." > > Well, what about the Colin Powell connection? > > What, you mean the "house slave"? BTW, I don't recall Harry Belafonte > making any smart cracks about Vernon Jordan... Perhaps Harry didn't think Vernon Jordan was a house slave. I don't think CP is either, I should add. And I'm very, very glad he's hanging around since, even though I don't think he could totally stop Rumsfield et al, I think he was a major force in pulling Dubya ever so slightly outside of the dead-center zone of the Wolves of War. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:05:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RI5hkq015981 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:05:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6C22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:04:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2943921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:04:43 -0500 Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RI4hU21197 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:04:43 -0500 Received: from user-vcauoq3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.67] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185rmE-0004Bt-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:04:43 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DBC294D.69CF132A@maynor.net> References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9F1B5.435B70C5@maynor.net> <3DBAD14D.E519A79A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBC294D.69CF132A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:58:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: anybody wanna be an inventor? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had an idea this morning for a product I think would sell: a tablet or something of that nature that you could run down your disposal in lieu of lemon rinds, to get rid of bad smells and freshen the air in the kitchen. (Yes, I've been inspired: Ben has a heavy hand with Trader Joe's minced garlic in the jar, and the smell hangs on *forever*.) If anybody decides to go with it, send me a few bucks out of your first million. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:17:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIHZkq016054 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:17:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6C61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:16:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:16:36 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIGaU21870 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:16:36 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9RIGZW10940 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:16:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c27de5$37b53340$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9F1B5.435B70C5@maynor.net> <3DBAD14D.E519A79A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBC294D.69CF132A@maynor.net> Subject: Re: anybody wanna be an inventor? Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:18:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I had an idea this morning for a product I think would sell: a tablet > or something of that nature that you could run down your disposal in > lieu of lemon rinds, to get rid of bad smells and freshen the air in > the kitchen. (Yes, I've been inspired: Ben has a heavy hand with > Trader Joe's minced garlic in the jar, and the smell hangs on > *forever*.) > > If anybody decides to go with it, send me a few bucks out of your > first million. > > Janet There is such a product. I have bought it and did so several years ago. It is a large tablet. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:18:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIIRkq016071 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:18:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6C6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:17:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:17:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f39.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIHRU21946 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:17:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:17:22 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:17:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:17:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 18:17:22.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[18050480:01C27DE5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay > > Have decided I will cook > > every single thing in the Rao's cookbook because it is perfect simple >old > > fashioned Italian (Italian-American) food, so decided on a Penne with > > Sausage and Cabbage dish. > >This looks like a good cookbook. Sucks to Lidia! Outstanding lemon chicken and definitive puttanesca. I have Lidia's book too, but I haven't used it yet. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:25:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIPVkq016155 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:25:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04099772@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:24:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:24:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hLGjUzynq97r6A8mBliOl2L6MYQ3r0oz@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIEWU21716 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:14:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112282FF6A for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:14:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D1E9C7C1F; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:14:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: anybody wanna be an inventor? In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 27, 2002 9:58:56 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:14:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027181431.D1E9C7C1F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > I had an idea this morning for a product I think would sell: a tablet > or something of that nature that you could run down your disposal in > lieu of lemon rinds, to get rid of bad smells and freshen the air in > the kitchen. I've always just used vinegar. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:30:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIULkq016232 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:30:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6CBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:29:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:22 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RITMU22753 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.29]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027183101.IJYF20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:31:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC307C.E37E453@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:29:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <3DBAD77C.56E8333E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20021026112046.00a4c7d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DBAE637.EE91D2FC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > I see Bethany on Maria with the "Don't Tread On Me" flag waving in the > background as alyce and I are drug off to the local hoosegow with her O2 tank > clanking on the pavement behind her and me handcuffed shouting some > unintelligible 2nd Amendment hooey smothered over by the local haircuts. I want to know the time and channel. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:30:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIUSkq016235 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:30:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6CBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:29:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:26 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RITQU22762 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:26 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021027182920.QMXR3104.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:29:20 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027102735.02bbf460@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:29:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Faces Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's a fun toy: . There are twenty faces of various types; you pick the top of one and the bottom of another to create a new face. The effect is eerie, and works better than you'd imagine. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:30:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIUckq016238 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:30:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6CC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:29:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f117.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RITcU22782 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:29:32 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:29:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 18:29:32.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB504260:01C27DE6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >before eating it. A Wendy's ordinary hamburger includes mayonnaise, a >tiny bit of mustard, and a very tiny dab of ketchup. I had to study it >carefully to make sure it was ketchup -- at first I thought it was just >ooze from the tomatoes. Fast food chains make regional adjustments in the condiments they use on their burgers, based on their market research. If Wendy's puts mayo on their burgers in the south, that is proof of the south being mayo-drenched. I don't think Wendy's hamburgers come with mayo on default here. Just like McD's burgers come with mustard in most places but not in New York. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:33:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIXBkq016250 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:33:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6CD9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:32:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:32:09 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIW8U23033 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:32:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.29]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027183347.ILHA20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:33:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC3123.B16EC542@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:32:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021026171528.86E0B7C32@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBAE94D.74B1FBF3@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Well, they are bigger than I, but not big like B&N. The lawsuit(s) This reminds me. I asked the owner and a couple of his assistants at Lemuria in Jackson yesterday whether they had suffered any problems since the arrival of a nearby B&N six or eight years ago plus the various other big chain stores in the vicinity. They said no -- that at least some of the independent bookstores were continuing to do well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:34:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIY1kq016260 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:34:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6CDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:33:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:33:02 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIX2U23070 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:33:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.29]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027183440.ILTT20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:34:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC3158.790F616B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:32:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <4.2.2.20021026102619.00a2c1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DBAE9BB.6C27802E@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > If they get close to me, I can set the O2 afire and blow us all up. This is getting better and better. JMW could spread around some gas -- . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:37:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIbLkq016275 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:37:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6CF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f13.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIaMU23242 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:36:22 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:36:16 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:36:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:36:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 18:36:16.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC0E3400:01C27DE7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >Nothing major: Lidia's Italian-American Kitchen. Her recipes are >consider IP, though--she only sells them, which is frustrating. IP? You must be overestimating your audience again, because that sentence makes no sense to me. If you want a recipe from her book, I'll send it to you. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:39:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIdbkq016293 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:39:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6D0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:38:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:38:38 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIcbU23389 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:38:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9RIcbW28816 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:38:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c27de8$4b6b40c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021027181431.D1E9C7C1F@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: anybody wanna be an inventor? Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:40:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" To: Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 12:14 PM Subject: Re: anybody wanna be an inventor? > Janet Hardy said: > > I had an idea this morning for a product I think would sell: a tablet > > or something of that nature that you could run down your disposal in > > lieu of lemon rinds, to get rid of bad smells and freshen the air in > > the kitchen. > > I've always just used vinegar. > > Karen Another way is to pour some liquid soap down the drain and run hot water while you run the disposal. It suds up the works and freshens it. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:42:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIgAkq016322 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:42:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6D20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:41:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:41:11 -0500 Received: from imf28bis.bellsouth.net (mail028.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIfBU23563 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:41:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.163]) by imf28bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027184000.AWW5573.imf28bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:40:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC333E.4F93730A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:41:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: up and out References: <3DB9DFDF.27B4F6F8@maynor.net> <00aa01c27d39$6a2df5c0$e900d6ce@computer> <007701c27d3a$f4c7b8a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > That is remarkable. I hope she is > able to get to a place where all > that treatment is over and can be > forgotten. Or remembered only in a contrastive sort of way that makes one appreciate the present even more. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:50:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIoIkq016396 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:50:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409981A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:49:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:49:18 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail114.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RInIU24250 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:49:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.215]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027185057.PUIL1391.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:50:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC3525.42D0A5DB@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:49:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weekend References: <001001c27d48$9f9bcb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBB2905.8060808@swbell.net> <002001c27d52$cd2c0680$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Well, you had kind of a late start, > didn't you? You'll get caught up > and ahead of it before long. I think it is unusual for any teacher to be able to have a weekend without job-related work to get done. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:51:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIpckq016417 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:51:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6D77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:50:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:50:39 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f182.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.182]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIocU24393 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:50:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:50:33 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:50:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Family Names Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:50:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 18:50:33.0404 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAC3C7C0:01C27DE9] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's my ancestral list: Baker Barry Bidgood Blakey Bowker Buckley Bunting Burger Burgess/Burges Buzby Carberry Carey Croasdale Curran Daniels Dougherty Elliot Everett Hardman Harrison Headley/Headly Huddleston Hulme Joses Joyce Lloyd Malone Milnor Monaghan Noble O'Neill Palmer Pearson Radcliffe Raigan Risk Smith Southy Swain Thomas Tillie Tomlinson Vansant Walsh Woolston Wright Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? 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Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:53:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIrTkq016445 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:53:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6D83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:52:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:52:29 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail014.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIqTU24508 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:52:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.215]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027185408.PVVV1391.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:54:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC35E7.834B4D1F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:52:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive References: <003801c27d5d$f7fed9e0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > treating you as simpler than you are? > > Ann ... > Some people do not see me as I think > I'm being seen on this list. It is, in fact, Fwiw, I don't think you are simple at all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 12:59:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RIx0kq016473 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:59:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6DAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f128.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.128]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RIw1U24902 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:58:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:57:55 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:57:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Figure Skating Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:57:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 18:57:55.0632 (UTC) FILETIME=[C25A6B00:01C27DEA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU FYI...the figure skating season has begun. Skate America is on ABC and the ladies are taking the ice. Yee-HAH! Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:02:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJ2Nkq016511 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:02:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6DCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:01:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:01:23 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail100.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJ1NU25193 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:01:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.31]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027190302.IXTJ8695.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:03:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC37FA.A5147FD7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:01:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Elwood's Day! References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> <4.2.2.20021027062903.00a339f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU HB,E!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:07:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJ7wkq016529 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:07:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6DF1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:06:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:06:59 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJ6xU25579 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:06:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.31]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027190837.JAOX8695.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:08:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC394D.737DA4B9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:06:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > suffered with a lower back pain, so I popped a pain killer and slept on a Symptom two. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:11:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJB3kq016539 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:11:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6E07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:10:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:10:03 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f15.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJA3U25771 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:10:03 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:09:57 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:09:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:09:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 19:09:57.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[70AF5D90:01C27DEC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >Marie Ascher wrote: > > > suffered with a lower back pain, so I popped a pain killer and slept on >a > >Symptom two. Too bad, no dead rabbits here. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:12:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJCBkq016548 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:12:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F6E0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:11:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:11:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f153.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJBBU25804 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:11:11 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:11:06 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:11:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Branding Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:11:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 19:11:06.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[99B82050:01C27DEC] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another one I definitely use: Saran Wrap. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:21:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJLIkq016603 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:21:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6E55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:20:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:20:19 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJKIU26390 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:20:19 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust219.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.221]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:20:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC3CF1.60BD8478@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:22:25 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > Too bad, no dead rabbits here. > I thought there would be for sure. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:23:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJNVkq016619 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:23:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6E66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:22:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:22:31 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail121.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJMVU26586 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:22:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027192410.YMDF11974.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:24:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC3CEE.39A6C811@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:22:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Fast food chains make regional adjustments in the condiments they use on > their burgers, based on their market research. If Wendy's puts mayo on their > burgers in the south, that is proof of the south being mayo-drenched. I I find it fascinating to think that there are more maynonnaise-eaters in the South than elsewhere. Before this discussion I would have guessed the opposite if asked to guess on such a matter. The reason I would've guessed opposite is that in the various food discussions here on Words-L I've seen mayonnaise mentioned in what I would consider disgusting contexts and have never seen anybody around here do. I can't remember what the contexts were now, though. Wasn't one of them related to cheese? Do most of you not ever buy mayonnaise? I have a problem with whether to buy any since I do use it in tunafish salad. But since that's the only occasion I have to use it in normal life, the smallest jar available lasts me five or six years. Was it here or was it in my ftf life that I found out several years ago that you really shouldn't keep mayonnaise more than a year or so? Since then I have thrown it away when I think a year has passed, though I am not convinced it matters since I had not done that in the past. Do y'all not put it in tunafish salad? If not, do you ever use any at all? If so, what do you use it for? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:29:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJT8kq016644 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:29:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6E85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:28:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:28:09 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f88.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJS8U26934 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:28:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:28:03 -0800 Received: from 64.154.78.57 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:28:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.154.78.57] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:28:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 19:28:03.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7D89550:01C27DEE] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >Do y'all not put it in tunafish salad? If not, do you ever use any at >all? If so, what do you use it for? Tuna salad is probably my number 1 use of mayo. Today I used it in the chicken salad I made from the breast of the chicken that was used to make stock (I remove the breast after an hour to make chicken salad). I also use mayo periodically on a sandwich, primarily because I love it next to a ripe tomato. Other than that I don't use it too much. But we do eat tuna salad fairly often so I buy one or two big jars a year. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:39:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJdJkq016710 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:39:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04099A1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:38:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:38:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJSJU26941 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:28:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9RJSIhA027024 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:28:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:28:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC3CEE.39A6C811@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Do y'all not put it in tunafish salad? If not, do you ever use any at >all? If so, what do you use it for? I do not make . I occasinally make tuna salad. I usually have mayo on hand, and I use about 1 pt. a year. Occasionally a friend wants mayo on a sandwich. Once in a great while, I put mayo on a wedge of iceberg lettuce, which I continue to eat occasionally, ususlly in wedge form. (Never by the handful, though.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:55:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJtmkq016792 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:55:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F6F4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:54:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:54:48 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJsmU28834 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:54:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027195627.BWPV14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:56:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC4483.9610772E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:54:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My quick research on hamburgers and mayonnaise showed only a Yankee association -- but the research was not thorough enough to be considered The Final Word. I first landed on this site: http://www.geocities.com/mcburgers_com/american_burgers.html It gave the ingredients for burgers associated with twenty-six U.S. cities. The only two that included mayonnaise were New York and Washington (the "New York Deli Burger" and the "Washington Capitol Burger" to be specific). Then I landed on this menu from a burger place in San Francisco: http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/mos.html It says "All burgers include lettuce, tomato, onion, house mayonnaise, pickle on request only." No more time for research on the matter. But I really don't think that mayonnaise is a Southern -- as in I don't think Southerners are into mayonnaise any more than Yankees are. I'm sure it does show up in odd places, though, like I was thinking about the wonderful deviled eggs I had at the party in Jackson last night -- they were stuffed with bacon, egg, and creamed spinach -- would mayonnaise be involved in the creaming of spinach? I dunno. There was certainly no discernible mayonnaise taste, but it might have been hidden in them somehow. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 13:59:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RJxCkq016812 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:59:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6F7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 14:58:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:58:12 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RJwCU29147 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:58:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027195951.BYLM14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:59:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC454E.DC4AC044@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:58:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Once in a great while, I put mayo on a wedge of > iceberg lettuce, which I continue to eat occasionally, ususlly in wedge > form. Now that indeed tickles my vomit mechanism. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:01:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RK1Tkq016845 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:01:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6F8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:00:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:00:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f62.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RK0TU29278 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:00:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:00:23 -0800 Received: from 65.56.33.141 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:00:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.56.33.141] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:00:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 20:00:23.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C5B7A50:01C27DF3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >I had at the party in Jackson last night -- they were stuffed with >bacon, egg, and creamed spinach -- would mayonnaise be involved in the >creaming of spinach? I dunno. There was certainly no discernible >mayonnaise taste, but it might have been hidden in them somehow. There usually is mayo in devilled eggs, but not in creamed spinach. In this case, maybe they used frozen creamed spinach and the cream negated the need for mayo, which is used in devilled eggs for moisture. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:05:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RK5qkq016864 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:05:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6FB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:04:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:04:52 -0500 Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RK4qU29551 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:04:52 -0500 Received: from user-vcaum0g.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.88.16] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185teV-0003b6-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:04:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000a01c27de5$37b53340$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9F1B5.435B70C5@maynor.net> <3DBAD14D.E519A79A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBC294D.69CF132A@maynor.net> <000a01c27de5$37b53340$9d0332d1@0018079268> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 10:59:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: anybody wanna be an inventor? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There is such a product. I have bought >it and did so several years ago. >It is a large tablet. Well, I'm glad it exists -- I'll look for it. But I'm sorry none of my friends will get rich from it. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:12:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RKC3kq016896 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:12:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F6FDE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:11:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:11:03 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKB3U29909 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:11:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.244]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027201242.CFJM14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:12:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:10:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > There usually is mayo in devilled eggs, but not in creamed spinach. In this > case, maybe they used frozen creamed spinach and the cream negated the need > for mayo, which is used in devilled eggs for moisture. Dunno. The food was done by the same great caterers this person apparently always uses for parties. They're fun to talk to in addition to making wonderful food. I did ask the ingredients of the eggs and was told egg, bacon, creamed spinach. I didn't ask the details of the creaming, knowing that I was not likely to do something like that myself. Meanwhile, I did the last hamburger research I'm planning on doing -- the last because I'm getting disgusted thinking about dead cow, especially with some still inside my digestive system. I did find out, though, that Wendy's hamburgers don't vary regionally. The ingredients are given on their web site: http://www.wendys.com/w-3-1.shtml The one I always get is the "classic single": ********** 1/4 lb.* Patty Mayonnaise Ketchup Mustard Dill Pickles Onion Tomato Lettuce Sandwich Bun ********* from: http://www.wendys.com/w-4-2-1.shtml -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:23:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RKNmkq016970 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:23:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7044@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:22:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:22:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKCmU30029 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:12:48 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9RKClhA011000 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:12:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:12:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC454E.DC4AC044@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Once in a great while, I put mayo on a wedge of >> iceberg lettuce, which I continue to eat occasionally, ususlly in wedge >> form. > >Now that indeed tickles my vomit mechanism. I love crunch! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:26:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RKQFkq016982 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:26:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7058@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:25:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947268 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:25:15 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKPFU31330 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:25:15 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0137.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.137] helo=pop.mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185tyD-0005VV-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:25:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC4BA7.57869311@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:25:26 -0600 From: Sylvia Edwards Reply-To: s.words@mindspring.com Organization: S.words X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you on my birthday list? References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> <3DBBF510.AA193F47@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > Sylvia Edwards wrote: > > > > I would like to be reminded of your birthday each year using an > > excellent service offered by BirthdayAlarm.com. > > > > Please click on the following link for me and enter your name and > > birthday, it only takes a few seconds: > > > > http://www.BirthdayAlarm.com/dob/123548a11436b408 > > I entered and hit Save, but it just keeps repeating. Do I have to become > a member? I don't know. I didn't think so. Ask Betty. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:28:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RKSIkq016989 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:28:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7062@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:27:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:27:18 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKRHU31419 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:27:17 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-022neomahp0137.dialsprint.net ([63.190.0.137] helo=pop.mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 185u0C-0006EM-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:27:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC4C23.892B6653@pop.mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:27:31 -0600 From: Sylvia Edwards Reply-To: s.words@mindspring.com Organization: S.words X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are you on my birthday list? References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> <4.2.2.20021027062903.00a339f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > Add Elwood for today! Happy Birthday, Big Guy. > > Betty I'm not going to enter anyone. If some one wants to be on my birthday list, he/she can put him/herself there. http://www.BirthdayAlarm.com/dob/123548a11436b408 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:38:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RKcckq017046 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:38:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F70AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:37:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:37:38 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKbbU32102 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:37:38 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-142.panax.com [63.163.41.142]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKbat05400 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:37:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027153715.00a04870@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:37:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Are you on my birthday list? In-Reply-To: <3DBC4BA7.57869311@pop.mindspring.com> References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> <3DBBF510.AA193F47@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > http://www.BirthdayAlarm.com/dob/123548a11436b408 > > > > I entered and hit Save, but it just keeps repeating. Do I have to become > > a member? > >I don't know. I didn't think so. Ask Betty. I did it and assumed it worked. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 14:50:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RKo5kq017130 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:50:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F710C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 15:49:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:49:05 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKn4U00406 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:49:04 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RKn3c16324 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:49:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RKn2RG015113 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:49:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027125007.00a44520@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 12:51:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Are you on my birthday list? In-Reply-To: <3DBC4BA7.57869311@pop.mindspring.com> References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> <3DBBF510.AA193F47@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:25 PM 10/27/2002 -0600, you wrote: >alyce cresap wrote: > > > > Sylvia Edwards wrote: > > > > > > I would like to be reminded of your birthday each year using an > > > excellent service offered by BirthdayAlarm.com. > > > > > > Please click on the following link for me and enter your name and > > > birthday, it only takes a few seconds: > > > > > > http://www.BirthdayAlarm.com/dob/123548a11436b408 > > > > I entered and hit Save, but it just keeps repeating. Do I have to become > > a member? > >I don't know. I didn't think so. Ask Betty. No, you don't have to become a member. Did you add Elwood for today. /Jim tomorrow. Adam and Theo on the 30th. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 15:03:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RL30kq017196 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:03:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F71B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe24.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RL20U01874 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:01:54 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Emmitt Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:01:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 21:01:54.0694 (UTC) FILETIME=[14613260:01C27DFC] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id g9RL30kq017196 Shout out to Emmitt Smith who just broke Sweetness's record. Wo0t! Wooo0o00o0o000w0000w0woooooo!!!!!! He cried on the Moose's shoulder, I got all teary eyed too. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 15:12:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RLC1kq017223 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:12:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04099DA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 16:11:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:11:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wmfJyVZjJCSyYuE/s3yZ7jwN19pUV3fA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RL10U01800 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:01:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D70D2FF2B for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 11CAF7C1C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:01:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Oct 27, 2002 1:36:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:00:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027210100.11CAF7C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > >Nothing major: Lidia's Italian-American Kitchen. Her recipes are > >consider IP, though--she only sells them, which is frustrating. > > IP? You must be overestimating your audience again, because that sentence > makes no sense to me. Intellectual Property. Sorry. > If you want a recipe from her book, I'll send it to you. My library has it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 15:13:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RLD3kq017228 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:13:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7210@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 16:12:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:12:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:CT0yJ8rcFvJzfjo17V5bHZrMue1Zh7Z3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RL23U01919 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:02:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53B82FF17 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 672817C22; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:02:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Branding In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Oct 27, 2002 2:11: 6 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:02:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021027210202.672817C22@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > Another one I definitely use: Saran Wrap. Me, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 15:22:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RLMQkq017287 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:22:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04099DF5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 16:21:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2949302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:21:21 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RLLLU03928 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:21:21 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RLLJc06776 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:21:19 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RLLIRG011859 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:21:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027132302.00a45cf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 13:23:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Emmitt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:01 PM 10/27/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Shout out to Emmitt Smith who just broke Sweetness's record. Wo0t! >Wooo0o00o0o000w0000w0woooooo!!!!!! > >He cried on the Moose's shoulder, I got all teary eyed too. Did they win? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 15:43:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RLhmkq017447 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:43:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F72F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 16:42:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2949896 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:42:45 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RLggU05741 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:42:42 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4N00HMVTN38C@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:42:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:43:58 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I never buy mayonnaise. I like it well enough, but not enough to have it around the house. In any case, I don't think of the southern tradition of mayo being so much smeared on stuff as being a part of a lot of dishes, like deviled eggs, tuna salad, chicken salad, macaroni salad, etc. The stuff certainly shows up as part of a lot of the recipes in my Southern Cooking cookbook. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 16:18:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RMI1kq017670 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:18:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F745C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 17:17:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2950766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:17:00 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RMH0U08950 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:17:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.7]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021027221839.YOQ12088.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:18:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:16:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > I never buy mayonnaise. I like it well enough, but not > enough to have it around the house. In any case, I don't > think of the southern tradition of mayo being so much > smeared on stuff as being a part of a lot of dishes, like > deviled eggs, tuna salad, chicken salad, macaroni salad, > etc. The stuff certainly shows up as part of a lot of the > recipes in my Southern Cooking cookbook. Do non-Southerners use something else in tuna/chicken salad, or do they just not it? I can't imagine putting mayonnaise in macaroni salad. I don't use any on that. Since I never make chicken salad, tunafish salad is left as the only thing I use mayonnaise for. (I also don't make deviled eggs, but I hadn't thought of mayonnaise as part of the deal -- I would've just dug out the boiled yoke, spiced it up with pepper and stuff, and poked it back into the white cups.) I tend in general not to doctor food up all that much. We were talking about slaw recently. To me the best slaw is simply finely grated cabbage mixed with finely grated carrot. I realize that lots of people like grated onion in it also, but I don't. My point, though, is that I don't see any reason to muck up perfectly good slaw by adding mayonnaise to it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 16:19:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RMJnkq017681 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:19:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F746A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 17:18:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2950799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:18:48 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RMIlU09100 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:18:47 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9RMIlW06802 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:18:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002101c27e07$0e37bd40$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <003801c27d5d$f7fed9e0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBC35E7.834B4D1F@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:20:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Fwiw, I don't think you are simple at all. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thank you. :-) - Simon From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 16:29:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RMT0kq017718 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:29:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F757C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 17:27:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:27:58 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RMRuU10271 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:27:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4N00H81VQJ7N@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:27:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:29:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>I never buy mayonnaise. I like it well enough, but not >>enough to have it around the house. In any case, I don't >>think of the southern tradition of mayo being so much >>smeared on stuff as being a part of a lot of dishes, like >>deviled eggs, tuna salad, chicken salad, macaroni salad, >>etc. The stuff certainly shows up as part of a lot of the >>recipes in my Southern Cooking cookbook. >> > > Do non-Southerners use something else in tuna/chicken salad, or do they > just not it? I can't imagine putting mayonnaise in macaroni > salad. I don't use any on that. Since I never make > chicken salad, tunafish salad is left as the only thing I use mayonnaise > for. (I also don't make deviled eggs, but I hadn't thought of > mayonnaise as part of the deal -- I would've just dug out the boiled > yoke, spiced it up with pepper and stuff, and poked it back into the > white cups.) I tend in general not to doctor food up all that much. We > were talking about slaw recently. To me the best slaw is simply finely > grated cabbage mixed with finely grated carrot. I realize that lots of > people like grated onion in it also, but I don't. My point, though, is > that I don't see any reason to muck up perfectly good slaw by adding > mayonnaise to it. No, just don't eat that sort of thing very often compared to southerners. I found some hilarious web hits about how southerners eat mayo, btw -- but my favorite was the Mayonnaise Terrorist in Russia. It seems Americans are lightweights compared the Euros when it comes to eating mayonnaise. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 16:34:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RMYnkq017781 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:34:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F75C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 17:33:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:33:48 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RMXmU10977 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:33:48 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4N00HWKW0B87@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:33:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:35:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Family Names To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBC6A1A.2040208@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Here's my ancestral list: > Curran That's my paternal grandmother's name. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 16:43:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RMhXkq017824 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:43:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7628@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 17:42:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2953148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:42:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe54.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.47]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RMgWU11817 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:42:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:42:27 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <4.2.2.20021027132302.00a45cf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Emmitt Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:42:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 22:42:27.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FFEF310:01C27E0A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Did they win? That's irrelevant. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 16:48:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RMmNkq017872 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:48:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F765C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 17:47:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2953258 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:47:22 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RMlMU12250 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:47:22 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RMlKc29838 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:47:20 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9RMlIRG014469; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:47:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027144850.00a4f310@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:49:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Emmitt In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20021027132302.00a45cf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:42 PM 10/27/2002 -0600, Anne Toal wrote: > > Did they win? > >That's irrelevant. Yes, but I know the answer now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 17:20:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RNKMkq018061 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:20:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7781@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 18:19:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:19:21 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f246.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.246]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RNJKU14741 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:19:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:19:15 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:19:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:19:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 23:19:15.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[440A4C50:01C27E0F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita: >Yeah, that's the sucky thing about the job. In a few years >it should be better, though. And summers off! I have it >better than my sister and brother, who have to juggle >working holidays -- I'll never have to connive to get >Christmas off. And you get spring break (right?)! It took me four years to get used to not having that week off in March. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 17:26:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RNQ7kq018101 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:26:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A4DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 18:25:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:25:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f108.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.108]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RNP5U15210 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:25:05 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:25:00 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:25:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: weekend Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:25:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 23:25:00.0360 (UTC) FILETIME=[11D5DC80:01C27E10] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: > >It was nice. I met this English guy who's a big fan > >of the Pittsburgh Steelers - I found that a tad weird. >If he's about your age, he probably discovered American football during the >Terry Bradshaw years. At that time they were like the Dallas Cowboys became That might just be it. You're very smart! He was funny, sort of an English rugby fan transplanted/converted to American football. Had tickets to today's Steelers game and everything, -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 17:38:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RNcRkq018183 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:38:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F77F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 18:37:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:37:25 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f242.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.242]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RNbPU16200 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:37:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:37:19 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:37:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:37:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 23:37:19.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA939A90:01C27E11] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "bonniev" > >Hey, there's a thought. I think both Clyde and I are living in fear that >the other one will decide at the last minute that they can't face it and >leave the island on July 1. No, no need to worry. Bah Hahbuh sounds like the kind of place where we won't need a tour guide. We should be able to stay out of your way and find plenty to do/see. >But as of this minute I plan to be here. I'm >even thinking of making cheesecake and apple pie and creme brulee for the >fest. Maybe a couple of loaves of sourdough homemade bread. I'm already looking forward to the food at the fest. (Is Havana open over the 4th?) The views and hikes rank number one, a little higher than the food. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 17:46:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RNkckq018248 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:46:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F782C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 18:45:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:45:33 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f182.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.182]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RNjXU16673 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:45:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:45:27 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:45:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: up and out - BKD's last word Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:45:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 23:45:27.0742 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED697DE0:01C27E12] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > (I still remember how we were having such a good time at Goatroast >after > > breakfast that we forgot he had a plane to catch and I told him not to >worry, > > he could always stay in Starkeville and and be the Town Jew.) 8-) >The part about The Town Jew doesn't work, though. I don't really know >how the percentages of various religions would turn out in a survey of >[...] >lunch and people tend to say what brand they are): Catholic 5, Jewish 4, 'swhat I suspected when I read John's post. Figured university faculty demographics would skew Starkville's traditional southern small town numbers. Speaking of which, that's one big difference between Philly and here. My Philly crowd had(s) lots of Jews whereas here I know very few jewish people. It feels a little funny. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 17:53:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RNrqkq018289 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:53:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7863@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 18:52:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:52:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RNqoU17250 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:52:50 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-130.panax.com [65.114.190.130]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RNqnt01968 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:52:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027185117.009f5a00@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:52:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm already looking forward to the food at the fest. >(Is Havana open over the 4th?) The views and hikes >rank number one, a little higher than the food. >-rashmi You have good taste and proper priorities. Yes, Havana is open over the 4th. Just about everything is open over the 4th. Last year Mache Bistro closed on the 4th itself. But it was open again for my birthday celebration on the 5th. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 17:54:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9RNs4kq018292 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:54:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7865@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 18:53:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:53:02 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f173.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9RNr2U17269 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:53:02 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 15:52:56 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:52:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Hey, John, don't forget Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:52:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 23:52:56.0901 (UTC) FILETIME=[F921B750:01C27E13] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU - Gilmore Girls at 7 tonight. -rashmi, off to watch _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 18:13:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S0Dskq018502 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:13:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F78FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 19:12:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:12:53 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0CrU18806 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:12:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.152]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028001431.WDTX11981.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:14:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:12:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > No, just don't eat that sort of thing very often compared to > southerners. I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern (though I had never really thought about a mayonnaise association), but I didn't know that tunafish salad and chicken sald were. I think of them as women's food more than men's food but hadn't thought of them as regional. Chicken salad is something I associate with eating lunch together. > I found some hilarious web hits about how > southerners eat mayo, btw -- And you're not sharing? I'm interested in this topic because it reminds me of how late in life it was that I discovered that "English peas" was a Southern term. The mayonnaise connection is something else that I'm discovering late in life. (Fwiw, I consider "mayo" a Yankee term. I know what it means but can't imagine ever using it myself and can't remember having heard it often. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever heard it in real life. When I think of it, I think of movies and of something like a NYC accent saying it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 18:21:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S0LWkq018589 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:21:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7942@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 19:20:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:20:31 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0KVU19456 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:20:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.172]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028002210.HCXS23449.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:22:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC82C6.5B213DC2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:20:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weekend References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > Rita: > > >Yeah, that's the sucky thing about the job. In a few years > >it should be better, though. And summers off! I have it > >better than my sister and brother, who have to juggle > >working holidays -- I'll never have to connive to get > >Christmas off. > > And you get spring break (right?)! It took me four > years to get used to not having that week off in > March. It's things like this that are appealing about teaching k-12 instead of college. In other ways there are disadvantages to k-12. You have far less flexibility in time when you're teaching -- like you could never schedule something like a medical or dental appointment at some time like 1 p.m. But when there are breaks, like spring break, they're more likely to be real breaks since you don't have the worry about the publication stuff -- the guilt about going out of town for spring break instead of working. Ditto summers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 18:36:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S0a1kq018757 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:36:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F79C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0YxU20533 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.75]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028003637.GEYR24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC862A.20BEF20B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:34:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: up and out - BKD's last word References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > 'swhat I suspected when I read John's post. Figured university faculty > demographics would skew Starkville's traditional southern small town > numbers. I'm sure that a university town is different from a non-university town in many respects. But Mississippi has always had a fairly large number of Jewish families. There have been articles and I think some whole books on the subject of Jewish history in Mississippi, and there's a museum on that topic somewhere in south Mississippi -- somewhere around Natchez, I think. What I've read about the history fits with my personal memory of growing up in Mississippi: that there was always extreme assimilation. I use "extreme" because there's the question of whether that's good or bad (the old assimilation vs diversity question -- there are obviously some plusses in assimilation, but there are the minuses like a less strong sense of shared culture among the assimilated groups). Mississippi doesn't have a history of anti-Semitic attitudes (except for that one brief period in the '60s when "New York Jews" were said to be pouring into the state as "outside agitators"). Other than that era (during most of which I wasn't in Mississippi), there has been no particular thought re whether somebody was Jewish. In my high school we knew the religions of our friends and acquaintances but it was like "John is Baptist, Sandra is Catholic, Natalie is Methodist, Ethel is Jewish." And that's all there was to it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 18:40:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S0edkq018798 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:40:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F79EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 19:39:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956400 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:39:37 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0dbU20768 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:39:37 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-113.panax.com [65.114.190.113]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0dZt08293 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:39:35 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027193844.00a02310@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:39:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm interested in this topic because it reminds >me of how late in life it was that I discovered that "English peas" was >a Southern term. The mayonnaise connection is something else that I'm >discovering late in life. (Fwiw, I consider "mayo" a Yankee term. I >know what it means but can't imagine ever using it myself > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Why can't we all just get along? Let's talk about our similarities instead of making divisions. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 18:43:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S0hSkq018849 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:43:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7A01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 19:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:42:22 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0gLU20983 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:42:22 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-113.panax.com [65.114.190.113]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0gKt08660 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:42:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027194118.00a07280@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:42:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: up and out - BKD's last word In-Reply-To: <3DBC862A.20BEF20B@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What I've read about the history fits with my >personal memory of growing up in Mississippi: that there was always >extreme assimilation. ... ... In my high school >we knew the religions of our friends and acquaintances but it was like >"John is Baptist, Sandra is Catholic, Natalie is Methodist, Ethel is >Jewish." And that's all there was to it. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Nice of you to accept the Jews while you made the blacks go to an entirely different school. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 18:50:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S0owkq018934 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:50:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A772@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 19:49:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:49:56 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0nuU21613 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:49:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.5]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028005130.HNPV7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:51:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC89AA.D6C8497A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:49:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021027193844.00a02310@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I'm interested in this topic because it reminds > >me of how late in life it was that I discovered that "English peas" was > >a Southern term. The mayonnaise connection is something else that I'm > >discovering late in life. (Fwiw, I consider "mayo" a Yankee term. I > >know what it means but can't imagine ever using it myself > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Why can't we all just get along? Let's talk about our similarities instead > of making divisions. But taking Bethany's lead in thinking about what route to take after retirement, it has occurred to me that I could go to Ole Miss and get a degree in "Southern Studies." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 18:56:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S0u2kq018974 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:56:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7A6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 19:55:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:55:00 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0t0U22016 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:55:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.5]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028005638.HRCQ7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:56:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC8ADE.62C70695@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:54:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: up and out - BKD's last word References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027194118.00a07280@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Nice of you to accept the Jews while you made the blacks go to an entirely > different school. Exactly. It is not part of Mississippi tradition to consider Jews as . Surely I reported here back however many years ago it was the thing a native Mississippian who works in our library said one day. I've forgotten where she's from -- some small town in the Delta, I think. And I have no memory of how this topic arose. But she said with very wide eyes (and she's not a youthful wide-eyer -- she's older than I am), "Did y'all know that in some parts of the country there is discrimination against Jews?" She went on with something like, "I've never heard of such a thing. Blacks have been discriminated against in this country, but Jews??" -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:07:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S17nkq019091 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:07:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A840@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:06:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:06:47 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S16lU22922 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:06:47 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021028010641.GQRV13658.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:06:41 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:06:43 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20021026220323.0534E7C1E@yellow.rahul.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Nothing major: Lidia's Italian-American Kitchen. Her recipes are > consider IP, though--she only sells them, which is frustrating. Really? I've seen a few posted on her website. She's my co-favorite TV chef at the moment, the other being Rachel Ray. Everything Lidia makes is luscious and flowing... > She has made me decide to make soup, though. Jeeze. Soup, lasagna--you > know it's winter. The escarole soup? Looked yummy. I've never made soup. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:09:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S19Vkq019105 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:09:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7ADA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:08:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:08:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:zIFlawRS4ieT+6POa9kxvyM134AOlEgF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0wTU22286 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:58:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDA92FE54 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B06CC7C18; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:58:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, John, don't forget In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Oct 27, 2002 11:52:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:58:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028005828.B06CC7C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > - Gilmore Girls at 7 tonight. 6, here, and I FORGOT! Dammit. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:10:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1Agkq019122 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:10:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7AE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:09:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:09:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:itwXQQ5TuDYijv+LCVaxNMJws05SfEUL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S0xeU22349 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:59:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E5E2FE21 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 672B87C1B; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:59:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 27, 2002 6:12:45 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 16:59:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028005939.672B87C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > (Fwiw, I consider "mayo" a Yankee term. I > know what it means but can't imagine ever using it myself and can't > remember having heard it often. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever heard > it in real life. When I think of it, I think of movies and of something > like a NYC accent saying it. They now sell stuff in the store called just Mayo. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:18:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1ITkq019233 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:18:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7B19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:17:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:17:27 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1HRU23782 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:17:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.140]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028011905.EQFG12088.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:19:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC9021.7E092CEE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:17:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021028005939.672B87C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > They now sell stuff in the store called just Mayo. What store? I am not surprised, of course. Yankee culture . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:19:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1JWkq019241 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:19:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A89E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:18:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957308 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:18:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sxCi2WlnPGONDzRTGU09jUfHvdF3ZX4A@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S18UU23130 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:08:30 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0EC2FE68 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4A5CA7C1B; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:08:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: from Adam Hartfield at "Oct 27, 2002 8: 6:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:08:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028010828.4A5CA7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield said: > > Nothing major: Lidia's Italian-American Kitchen. Her recipes are > > consider IP, though--she only sells them, which is frustrating. > > Really? I've seen a few posted on her website. Yes, but not the ones for the current show. > The escarole soup? Looked yummy. I've never made soup. Yes. Soup is easy. I had a debate with Ligniere on whether homemade stock tastes better. I think it can, but I don't think mine always does. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:23:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1Nckq019261 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:23:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7B43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:22:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:22:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1MaU24164 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:22:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.8]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O3PM01.KL4 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:20:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBC911A.F94C2DAF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:21:31 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021026171528.86E0B7C32@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBAE94D.74B1FBF3@valstar.net> <3DBC3123.B16EC542@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > least some of the independent bookstores were continuing to do well. And its nice that TNT is telling viewers to buy some book or the other at "your local independent bookseller". JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:25:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1POkq019274 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:25:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7B52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:24:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:24:22 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1OMU24376 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:24:22 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.8]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O3T002.7NF for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:22:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBC919A.AB4CC39C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:23:38 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <4.2.2.20021026102619.00a2c1b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DBAE9BB.6C27802E@valstar.net> <3DBC3158.790F616B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > This is getting better and better. JMW could spread around some gas -- > . Vile slander. I haven't eaten at Taco Bell for months. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:30:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1U8kq019318 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:30:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7B72@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:29:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:29:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BtPMMVCKHGMLmHoSVRDbWsURfSus3uU5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1J6U23883 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:19:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC52C2FFB2 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9B2287C11; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:19:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC9021.7E092CEE@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 27, 2002 7:17:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028011905.9B2287C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > They now sell stuff in the store called just Mayo. > > What store? I am not surprised, of course. Yankee culture . The grocery store. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:34:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1Ylkq019345 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:34:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7B90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:33:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:33:45 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1XjU25051 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:33:45 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3EA1C202A6; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:33:30 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:33:31 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1095187118.20021027183331@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: egocentric post In-Reply-To: <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> References: <20021023213531.3262A7C25@yellow.rahul.net> <141755144390.20021024064540@gailndan.com> <3DB86B71.6F82BE40@maynor.net> <171850066160.20021025090742@gailndan.com> <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/25/2002, 3:46 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> >> And you can be sure that "Jimmy" answered it personally. Did you >> >> get his autograph on the reply, Natalie? >> >> NM> Huh? >> >> One way to be sure that the reply was indeed done by the sender would >> be to have his autograph/signature on the document. Should I assume >> you didn't get an ALS? Or even a TLS? NM> Why would it occur to me to think that the reply might not be from the NM> sender? Because he undoubtedly has a variety of secretaries/admin assts/whatevers. Do you think that every email that comes from the MSU Pres Office is personally typed by him? NM> Do you stop and consider with every piece of personal e-mail NM> whether it's from who you think it's from? I barely know his wife and NM> thus can't imagine that she would be replying to his mail for him. And NM> certainly she'd say so if she did. And he mentioned things in the note NM> that I doubt that his wife would even know about. (No, nothing NM> -- just chitchat about our lives.) What are ALS and TLS? Assume those have been answered by now. dan -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:35:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1Z1kq019353 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:35:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A91A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:33:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:33:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:xrbskb4HHG/JwGtp+qhiz3IkMLo9Zexb@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1NwU24298 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:23:58 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117AD2FFD7 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D3E187C0C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:23:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBC911A.F94C2DAF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Oct 27, 2002 6:21:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:23:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028012357.D3E187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > And its nice that TNT is telling viewers to buy some book or the other > at "your local independent bookseller". Cool! I wonder if most people know what an independent bookseller is. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:36:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1aQkq019362 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:36:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7B9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1ZNU25197 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A4582D02AE; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:35:20 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:35:21 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15297206.20021027183521@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Translation please. In-Reply-To: <3DB9CBB6.A490CB37@maynor.net> References: <20021024224558.282CC7C5F@yellow.rahul.net> <72850405528.20021025091321@gailndan.com> <3DB9CBB6.A490CB37@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/25/2002, 3:54 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> KK> The part of my front yard I have to cross to get the paper is a total >> KK> mud field. >> >> People don't get their paper on the front porch? Strange. NM> I find this quite mutant. Either newspapers would have to hire far, far NM> more carriers, as in splitting the routes into tiny areas, or the NM> carriers would have to work far more hours and some people would get NM> their papers way late. It would add quite a bit of time if the carriers NM> had to drive up every driveway, get out of the car, and deliver the NM> paper to the front porch. Well, as noted, mine is on my front porch. Often right against the door. It is rolled and rubberbanded, so I don't know, or care, whether it is thrown, carried, or transported, as long as it is there. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:44:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1iNkq019453 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:44:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A94C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:43:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:43:17 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1hHU25654 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:43:17 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021028014311.HBLA17494.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:43:11 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't think Wendy's hamburgers come with mayo on default here. They do here. Next time I go, I'll have to remember to ask them not to put it on. I like their chicken nuggets. And their salads aren't bad. Overall, if I have to go to a burger joint, I think I like that one the best. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:45:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1jKkq019484 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:45:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7BE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:44:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:44:18 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1iHU25718 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:44:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.171]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028014556.ZHRO3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC966A.B6D718DC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:44:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: egocentric post References: <20021023213531.3262A7C25@yellow.rahul.net> <141755144390.20021024064540@gailndan.com> <3DB86B71.6F82BE40@maynor.net> <171850066160.20021025090742@gailndan.com> <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> <1095187118.20021027183331@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > NM> Why would it occur to me to think that the reply might not be from the > NM> sender? > > Because he undoubtedly has a variety of secretaries/admin > assts/whatevers. Do you think that every email that comes from the > MSU Pres Office is personally typed by him? I didn't write the MSU Pres Office. I wrote to the personal address of an old friend. I really don't know how many secretaries/adminassts/whatever he has now since he is retired, although I do realize that he's actively retired -- he's not just sitting around couch-potatoing. I do find your wondering funny somehow. Even when Jimmy was still Netscape CEO, I can guarantee you that our e-mail correspondence was direct. Then again, maybe he dictated the content to a secretary. Somehow I'm ROFL at that thought. > NM> -- just chitchat about our lives.) What are ALS and TLS? > > Assume those have been answered by now. No, I don't think so. If they have, I've overlooked the answer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) or perhaps dictated by Natalie to her assistant From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:46:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1kmkq019499 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:46:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A95D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:45:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:41 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1jfU25777 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:41 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.23]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O4SJ02.GQ4 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:43:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBC9699.AB8EFFB6@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:44:57 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <20021026195719.766AA7C21@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. At first I thought you were talking about the Iron Chef where they filleted living fish. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:46:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1kvkq019503 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:46:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7BEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:45:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:54 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1jsU25788 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.171]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028014733.ZIPW3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:47:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC96CC.F2019F44@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:45:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021028012357.D3E187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > And its nice that TNT is telling viewers to buy some book or the other > > at "your local independent bookseller". > > Cool! > > I wonder if most people know what an independent bookseller is. I would think that anybody who might be inclined to follow the advice to buy some book or the other would. Possibly somebody who never thinks of buying a book wouldn't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 19:50:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S1oAkq019530 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:50:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7C05@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:49:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:49:04 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1n4U26026 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:49:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.171]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028015043.ZKIL3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:50:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC978A.887E83D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:48:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation please. References: <20021024224558.282CC7C5F@yellow.rahul.net> <72850405528.20021025091321@gailndan.com> <3DB9CBB6.A490CB37@maynor.net> <15297206.20021027183521@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > >> People don't get their paper on the front porch? Strange. > > NM> I find this quite mutant. Either newspapers would have to hire far, far > NM> more carriers, as in splitting the routes into tiny areas, or the > NM> carriers would have to work far more hours and some people would get > NM> their papers way late. It would add quite a bit of time if the carriers > NM> had to drive up every driveway, get out of the car, and deliver the > NM> paper to the front porch. > > Well, as noted, mine is on my front porch. Often right against the > door. It is rolled and rubberbanded, so I don't know, or care, > whether it is thrown, carried, or transported, as long as it is there. In the picture you posted (or rather told us the url for) it appears that your front yard is a small, flat, untreed space. In that case it would be quite easy for the carrier to toss it to your front porch. What I found mutant was not that your newspaper is tossed to your front porch but your assumption that everybody who subscribes to a newspaper has a small, treeless front yard. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:00:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S208kq019641 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:00:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7C5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:59:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:59:02 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1x2U26655 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:59:02 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1x0c31591 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:59:00 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9S1wxRG011245 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:59:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027180023.00a4fd90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:00:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: egocentric post In-Reply-To: <1095187118.20021027183331@gailndan.com> References: <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> <20021023213531.3262A7C25@yellow.rahul.net> <141755144390.20021024064540@gailndan.com> <3DB86B71.6F82BE40@maynor.net> <171850066160.20021025090742@gailndan.com> <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:33 PM 10/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: >10/25/2002, 3:46 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> Dan Lester wrote: > > >> >> And you can be sure that "Jimmy" answered it personally. Did you > >> >> get his autograph on the reply, Natalie? > >> > >> NM> Huh? > >> > >> One way to be sure that the reply was indeed done by the sender would > >> be to have his autograph/signature on the document. Should I assume > >> you didn't get an ALS? Or even a TLS? > >NM> Why would it occur to me to think that the reply might not be from the >NM> sender? > >Because he undoubtedly has a variety of secretaries/admin >assts/whatevers. Do you think that every email that comes from the >MSU Pres Office is personally typed by him? > >NM> Do you stop and consider with every piece of personal e-mail >NM> whether it's from who you think it's from? I barely know his wife and >NM> thus can't imagine that she would be replying to his mail for him. And >NM> certainly she'd say so if she did. And he mentioned things in the note >NM> that I doubt that his wife would even know about. (No, nothing >NM> -- just chitchat about our lives.) What are ALS and TLS? > >Assume those have been answered by now. Did you have a good week end, Dan? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:01:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S213kq019667 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:01:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409A9E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:00:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:00:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8PDGVMJMzcfmz3NXdWmWgVrorv7t41oF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1o0U26111 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:50:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989382FFE9 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 74FE37C1C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:49:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBC96CC.F2019F44@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 27, 2002 7:45:48 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:49:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028014959.74FE37C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > And its nice that TNT is telling viewers to buy some book or the other > > > at "your local independent bookseller". > > > > Cool! > > > > I wonder if most people know what an independent bookseller is. > > I would think that anybody who might be inclined to follow the advice to > buy some book or the other would. Possibly somebody who never thinks of > buying a book wouldn't. Lots of people buy books at Waldenbooks, B&N, Borders, etc. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:01:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S213kq019668 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:01:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7C6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 20:59:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:59:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:qY5u+KeRIgLJ5ROGZl/0L84TZMzJT6cp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S1nGU26037 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:49:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A9F2FFDB for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:49:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7918A7C1C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:49:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBC9699.AB8EFFB6@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Oct 27, 2002 6:44:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 17:49:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028014915.7918A7C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. > > At first I thought you were talking about the Iron Chef where they > filleted living fish. I don't get FoodTV--good thing. Filleting living fish squicked me bigtime when I first heard of it 30 years ago, but I'm inured. However, someone recently shared with me that they do this to horses--that, I've never seen nor heard about. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:01:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S21Akq019675 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:01:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7C6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:00:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:00:08 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S207U26767 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:00:07 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S205c32381 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:00:05 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9S203RG012648 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:00:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027180152.00a478d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:02:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBC9699.AB8EFFB6@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20021026195719.766AA7C21@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:44 PM 10/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > > > Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. > > At first I thought you were talking about the Iron Chef where they >filleted living fish. Cool! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:11:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2BTkq019766 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:11:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7CCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:10:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:10:27 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2ARU28489 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:10:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.29]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028021205.BSDV12237.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:12:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC9C8A.9827398A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:10:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <20021028014915.7918A7C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I don't get FoodTV--good thing. Filleting living fish squicked me > bigtime when I first heard of it 30 years ago, but I'm inured. > > However, someone recently shared with me that they do this to > horses--that, I've never seen nor heard about. I am moving closer by the second to vegetarianism. I'm pretty good at distancing myself from thought of the animals when I consume animals, except that sometimes I picture chickens on the hoof, so to speak, when I look at a chicken leg -- and I think of dog legs etc. But when I'm closer to it, as in that time when lovejudith handed the bag of live lobsters to me in the lobster shop, I really freeze. Even though I told her that I couldn't hold that bag and she carried it then, I found that night that I couldn't eat even a bite of the lobster. Illogical? Sure. I make no claim that it's not. I will go to the Wendy's drive-up window and get a dead-cow item and eat it. I will buy a chunk of dead fish at the grocery store and pop it into the toaster oven and then eat it. I will open a can of tunafish and put it into a bowl with celery (and mayonnaise!) and churn it around and put it on a piece of bread and eat it. Etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:11:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2Bakq019769 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:11:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7CD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:10:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:10:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S20XU26799 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:00:33 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9S20WhA026111 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:00:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:00:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern (though I had never >really thought about a mayonnaise association), but I didn't know that >tunafish salad and chicken sald were. I think of them as women's food I was amused my summer clerking for the Dep't of the Navy (OGC) - in Washington. There were 4 clerks from the south and 2 from New England. At that time there was in Crystal City a marvelous downhome southern restaurant that served things like fried chicken sandwiches (fried chicken on white bread). We three from the south delighted in eating such extremely southern lunches - while the New Englanders, who were slightly shocked by what we ate, ate tuna sandwiches on white bread all summer. I remember one saying that she would happily eat it for lunch every day. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:12:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2COkq019774 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:12:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7CD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:11:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:11:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NCaNaT8BHNnGc6CrwHTL8ZJ9G/arpjso@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S21KU26919 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:01:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D77A2FFF1 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:01:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 10A767C1C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:01:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021027180152.00a478d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Oct 27, 2002 6: 2: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028020119.10A767C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 06:44 PM 10/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. > > > > At first I thought you were talking about the Iron Chef where they > >filleted living fish. > > Cool! It is, kind of. And I do know that Really Fresh Fish tastes better. But I don't know that I could stand to watch. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:13:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2Dmkq019784 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:13:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7CE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:12:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:12:42 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2CgU28724 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:12:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.29]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028021421.BTFJ12237.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:14:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC9D14.42549000@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:12:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021028014959.74FE37C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > I wonder if most people know what an independent bookseller is. > > > > I would think that anybody who might be inclined to follow the advice to > > buy some book or the other would. Possibly somebody who never thinks of > > buying a book wouldn't. > > Lots of people buy books at Waldenbooks, B&N, Borders, etc. I don't understand your point. I didn't say that anybody who might be inclined to follow the advice to buy some book or the other would also follow the advice to buy it from an independent bookseller. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:15:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2FOkq019823 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:15:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7CEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2ELU28843 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:14:21 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.23]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O64B01.PQI for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:12:11 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBC9D50.AF96A459@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:13:37 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, John, don't forget References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > - Gilmore Girls at 7 tonight. Too late, but I caught it at 6:00 (MST) Thank you! JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:20:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2K8kq019912 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:20:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7D0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:19:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:19:05 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2J5U29347 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:19:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.153]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028022044.LZNN14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:20:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBC9E90.41B6139A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:18:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern (though I had never > >really thought about a mayonnaise association), but I didn't know that > >tunafish salad and chicken sald were. I think of them as women's food > > I was amused my summer clerking for the Dep't of the Navy (OGC) - in > Washington. There were 4 clerks from the south and 2 from New England. At > that time there was in Crystal City a marvelous downhome southern > restaurant that served things like fried chicken sandwiches (fried > chicken on white bread). We three from the south delighted in eating > such extremely southern lunches - while the New Englanders, who were > slightly shocked by what we ate, ate tuna sandwiches on white bread all > summer. I remember one saying that she would happily eat it for lunch > every day. But did those New Englanders allow mayonnaise as an ingredient in the tunafish salad that constituted their sandwiches? (Then again, maybe Yankees put tunafish on bread without anything intervening when they make tunafish sandwiches. I do eat tunafish that way at times -- like I open a can and eat the fish without turning it into a sandwich -- but no bread is involved -- i.e., it isn't a tunafish sandwich.) I must add, however, that I've never heard of a fried-chicken sandwich. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:23:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2N5kq019964 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:23:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7D29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:22:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:22:02 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2M2U29546 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:22:02 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2M0c13559 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:22:00 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9S2LwRG022702 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:21:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027182128.00a3d380@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:23:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028020119.10A767C1C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <4.2.2.20021027180152.00a478d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:01 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Betty said: > > At 06:44 PM 10/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > >Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > > Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. > > > > > > At first I thought you were talking about the Iron Chef where they > > >filleted living fish. > > > > Cool! > >It is, kind of. And I do know that Really Fresh Fish tastes better. >But I don't know that I could stand to watch. It does kind of spook me sometimes when the fish in my creel thrashes around. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:24:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2Ogkq019993 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:24:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7D33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:23:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:23:39 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2NdU29623 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:23:39 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.23]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O6JS03.8QY for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:21:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBC9F7E.40A948AD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:22:55 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC454E.DC4AC044@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > Once in a great while, I put mayo on a wedge of > > iceberg lettuce, which I continue to eat occasionally, ususlly in wedge > > form. > > Now that indeed tickles my vomit mechanism. In my formative years that was known as "salad". Make of that what you will. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:25:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2Pfkq020003 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:25:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AAC7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:24:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:24:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:leRxwPzkPCZYtmLdPJ4i6Ba99FhJEG/8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2ERU28858 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:14:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315692FF57 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EE04B7C16; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:14:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBC9D14.42549000@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 27, 2002 8:12:36 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:14:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028021426.EE04B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > I wonder if most people know what an independent bookseller is. > > > > > > I would think that anybody who might be inclined to follow the advice to > > > buy some book or the other would. Possibly somebody who never thinks of > > > buying a book wouldn't. > > > > Lots of people buy books at Waldenbooks, B&N, Borders, etc. > > I don't understand your point. I didn't say that anybody who might be > inclined to follow the advice to buy some book or the other would also > follow the advice to buy it from an independent bookseller. I'm not going to get in another round-and-round pointless argument with you; go masturbate alone. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:26:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2QGkq020009 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:26:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7D40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:25:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:25:14 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2PDU29730 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:25:13 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A004186028E; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:25:08 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:25:09 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1248284993.20021027192509@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <3DB9F010.2F0785EC@valstar.net> References: <3DB9F010.2F0785EC@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/25/2002, 6:29 PM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Bushmaster's president, Richard E. Dyke, was the Maine finance chairman ac> of George W. Bush's 2000 Presidential ac> campaign. So that's why the snipers did their thing? It is Dyke's fault? Or Bush's fault? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:26:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2QUkq020012 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:26:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7D42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:25:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:25:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:0153nnvIuSlbHDnJTBMOcO0G8djsdWf0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2FSU28974 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:15:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21102FF57 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8E4297C16; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:15:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, John, don't forget In-Reply-To: <3DBC9D50.AF96A459@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Oct 27, 2002 7:13:37 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:15:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028021524.8E4297C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > > - Gilmore Girls at 7 tonight. > > Too late, but I caught it at 6:00 (MST) Thank you! But I realized last week that I'd seen that one, and I know I saw this one, too. So I only missed the first three or 4 episodes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:28:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2SPkq020025 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:28:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7D5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:27:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:27:22 -0500 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2RMU29908 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:27:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.190.fb8326c (17228) for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:27:15 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <190.fb8326c.2aedfa83@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:27:15 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2002 8:19:27 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I must add, however, that I've never heard of a fried-chicken sandwich. >> Oh, I've made those. I make it with cold fried-chicken breast; it's just bread, chicken, and a little salt. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:30:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2UKkq020051 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:30:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AAE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:29:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:17 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2THU30077 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:17 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A0F91EA023E; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:13 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:29:14 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1408529985.20021027192914@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: <20021026015907.434677C1E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021026015907.434677C1E@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/25/2002, 6:59 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> LOL. The definition of an open container is stricter some places than KK> others, it seems. And there may still be some where it isn't illegal. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:35:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2ZJkq020144 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:35:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7D92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:34:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2OGU29670 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:24:16 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9S2OFhA001177 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:24:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:24:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC9E90.41B6139A@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >But did those New Englanders allow mayonnaise as an ingredient in the >tunafish salad that constituted their sandwiches? (Then again, maybe The tuna salad they ate was VERY white - I think it had tons of mayo in it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:35:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2Zekq020148 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:35:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AB0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:34:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:34:37 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2YaU30397 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:34:36 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A2357703A4; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:34:29 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:34:30 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <168846059.20021027193430@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: So We are Naive In-Reply-To: <3DB9FAC9.2060507@swbell.net> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DB9E0D1.9050600@swbell.net> <3DB9F35A.2D1E03FB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9FAC9.2060507@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/25/2002, 7:15 PM, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >>>>>(Though I suspect the whole attitude is arising out of a more basic >>>>>error, that of thinking that your personal conduct has anything to >>>>>do with USA's diplomatic and military conduct. By the way, isn't it >>>>>a bit arrogant to act like the minority you are part of represents >>>>>every American in every minor, boring detail?) >>>>> >> True, any individual has minimal effect upon national policy. But >> what evidence do you have to say that Doris is in a minority? And if she >> is, shouldn't the Politics of Inclusion respect her input? And isn't >> calling her a "minority" a tad arrogant? "We outnumber you, therefore >> your opinion is worthless." (Sorry, minor and boring.) RC> I think Dan wrote everything you've quoted above. I didn't. RC> I don't think she is the minority, as a matter of fact. I RC> think she is the mainstream I read about. Just for the record, Dan didn't write any of that. Sorry. Anyone who cares can figure it out, but I don't know, don't give a shit, just that it wasn't me. >>>>Well now don't you and Rita get your >>>>camel-toe covers in a wad. >>>> >>>That doesn't even make sense. >>> >> >> Odd. It does to me. RC> Since when do men have pouty labia? Check out some of the sites. They're pouty genitals that have the same name in some sort of PC sense on the sites. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:36:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2aakq020156 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:36:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7D9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:35:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959496 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:35:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:A5SG6alb3ovWIMspJjVTABbhC9hw2f7w@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2PXU29738 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:25:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FCC2FDE2 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7E9A27C0D; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:25:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC9E90.41B6139A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 27, 2002 8:18:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:25:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028022532.7E9A27C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > But did those New Englanders allow mayonnaise as an ingredient in the > tunafish salad that constituted their sandwiches? I can't imagine not. > I must add, > however, that I've never heard of a fried-chicken sandwich. I've seen them on menus here. Tonight Ligniere and I had bubble tea for the first time. It was okay--I loved the shop where we went because it reminded me of Japan, even though it was Taiwanese. We were the only white people in the shop. And he told me about going to see some friends of his and walking into their garage--and discovering too late that they had painted the floor. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:37:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2bgkq020164 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:37:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AB1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:36:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:36:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GcYwdkewWX4QFOp7dNwH48B46PUTeUpX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2QZU29828 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:26:35 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CAF72FE3A for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 24FBC7C0D; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:26:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021027182128.00a3d380@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Oct 27, 2002 6:23:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:26:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028022635.24FBC7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 06:01 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Betty said: > > > At 06:44 PM 10/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > > > > Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. > > > > > > > > At first I thought you were talking about the Iron Chef where they > > > >filleted living fish. > > > > > > Cool! > > > >It is, kind of. And I do know that Really Fresh Fish tastes better. > >But I don't know that I could stand to watch. > > It does kind of spook me sometimes when the fish in my creel thrashes around. Does that slow you down in gutting them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:38:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2cVkq020187 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:38:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7DA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:37:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:37:28 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2bSU30558 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:37:28 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.23]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O76Q03.EOY for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:35:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBCA2B9.969A1611@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:36:41 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > >Can you interpret JMW? Sometimes I can't read over or under the lines. > > > >Betty > > Often not. But I generally understand his position. Crap. Time to get more obscure. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:39:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2d0kq020192 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:39:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7DA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:37:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:37:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:l/sQpfJ/jhqD5YahbFJZmNIZPUfxU59I@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2RvU29947 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:27:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599FC2FFF0 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2AE877C18; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:27:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <1248284993.20021027192509@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 27, 2002 7:25: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:27:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028022757.2AE877C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/25/2002, 6:29 PM, alyce cresap wrote: > > ac> Bushmaster's president, Richard E. Dyke, was the Maine finance chairman > ac> of George W. Bush's 2000 Presidential > ac> campaign. > > So that's why the snipers did their thing? It is Dyke's fault? > Or Bush's fault? Ligniere has developed a conspiracy theory about Wellstone's plane going down... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:39:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2dBkq020195 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:39:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7DAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:38:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:38:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2S8U29983 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:28:08 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9S2S7hA002270 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:28:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:28:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC89AA.D6C8497A@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >But taking Bethany's lead in thinking about what route to take after >retirement, it has occurred to me that I could go to Ole Miss and get a >degree in "Southern Studies." The best part is you could live in Oxford. When I was there for SECOL, I was prepared to move there - I visited several lawyers to inquire whether they thought I could make a living there. They said they thought I could. There are several places I could live easily, at least for a while - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:39:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2dJkq020198 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:39:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7DAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:38:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:38:16 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2cGU30607 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:38:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.153]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028023955.CFVK12237.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:39:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCA312.CA433461@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:38:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <20021028021426.EE04B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > Lots of people buy books at Waldenbooks, B&N, Borders, etc. > > > > I don't understand your point. I didn't say that anybody who might be > > inclined to follow the advice to buy some book or the other would also > > follow the advice to buy it from an independent bookseller. > > I'm not going to get in another round-and-round pointless argument > with you; go masturbate alone. Another useful reply. It's ok with me not to understand your point. I will not lie sleepness at night wondering why you think that buying books at chains stores means you don't know they're chain stores. I do kind of wonder how somebody can masturbate other than alone, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:40:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2e8kq020205 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:40:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7DB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:39:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:39:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2T5U30061 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:05 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9S2T5hA002486 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:05 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <190.fb8326c.2aedfa83@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >I must add, >however, that I've never heard of a fried-chicken sandwich. > >Oh, I've made those. I make it with cold fried-chicken breast; >it's just bread, chicken, and a little salt. Ours were hot - the chicken had just been fried. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:41:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2fskq020215 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:41:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7DC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:40:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:40:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+jwscCQOkH+X2WNRlKWJnpelX/ED90LX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2UaU30184 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:30:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA8F2FFF1 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CB4817C16; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:30:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: <1408529985.20021027192914@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 27, 2002 7:29:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:30:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028023035.CB4817C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/25/2002, 6:59 PM, Karen Kay wrote: > KK> LOL. The definition of an open container is stricter some places than > KK> others, it seems. > > And there may still be some where it isn't illegal. Yep. I liked not having to worry about it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:45:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2j3kq020253 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7DD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:44:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:44:00 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2i0U30955 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:44:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.153]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028024535.CIRQ12237.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:45:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCA467.FA615B54@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:43:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC454E.DC4AC044@maynor.net> <3DBC9F7E.40A948AD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > > Once in a great while, I put mayo on a wedge of > > > iceberg lettuce, which I continue to eat occasionally, ususlly in wedge > > > form. > > > > Now that indeed tickles my vomit mechanism. > > In my formative years that was known as "salad". Make of that what you > will. I started to say that it's a southwest thing, but then I remembered that you grew up in a northern place. Right? The only other thing I can make of it is that you and Bethany are or were into a food item that grosses me out. Now what to make of that I'm not sure. You and Bethany share something ? I'm mutant for finding the idea of mayonnaise and iceberg lettuce repulsive? I dunno. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:45:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2jFkq020257 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7DD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:44:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:44:12 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2iCU30986 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:44:12 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2iAc29480 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:44:10 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9S2i7RG001778 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:44:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027184519.00a3fd20@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:46:05 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028022635.24FBC7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> References: <4.2.2.20021027182128.00a3d380@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:26 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Betty said: > > At 06:01 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >Betty said: > > > > At 06:44 PM 10/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > > > >Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Please remind me not to watch cooking shows on TV. > > > > > > > > > > At first I thought you were talking about the Iron Chef where > they > > > > >filleted living fish. > > > > > > > > Cool! > > > > > >It is, kind of. And I do know that Really Fresh Fish tastes better. > > >But I don't know that I could stand to watch. > > > > It does kind of spook me sometimes when the fish in my creel thrashes > around. > >Does that slow you down in gutting them? No. Larry does that most of the time. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:45:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2jbkq020262 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7DD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2iYU30997 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:44:34 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.23]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O7IN03.2RY for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:42:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBCA464.F062518A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:43:49 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DB9E0D1.9050600@swbell.net> <3DB9F35A.2D1E03FB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9FAC9.2060507@swbell.net> <168846059.20021027193430@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > 10/25/2002, 7:15 PM, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> > >>>>>(Though I suspect the whole attitude is arising out of a more basic > >>>>>error, that of thinking that your personal conduct has anything to > >>>>>do with USA's diplomatic and military conduct. By the way, isn't it > >>>>>a bit arrogant to act like the minority you are part of represents > >>>>>every American in every minor, boring detail?) =================== > > >> True, any individual has minimal effect upon national policy. But > >> what evidence do you have to say that Doris is in a minority? And if she > >> is, shouldn't the Politics of Inclusion respect her input? And isn't > >> calling her a "minority" a tad arrogant? "We outnumber you, therefore > >> your opinion is worthless." (Sorry, minor and boring.) =================== > > > RC> I think Dan wrote everything you've quoted above. I didn't. > RC> I don't think she is the minority, as a matter of fact. I > RC> think she is the mainstream I read about. > > Just for the record, Dan didn't write any of that. Sorry. Anyone who > cares can figure it out, but I don't know, don't give a shit, just > that it wasn't me. No, he didn't. *I* did, just for the record. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:47:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2l8kq020279 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:47:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7DDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:46:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:46:05 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2k5U31107 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:46:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.153]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028024744.CJXV12237.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:47:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCA4E7.332D2B7E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:45:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >But did those New Englanders allow mayonnaise as an ingredient in the > >tunafish salad that constituted their sandwiches? (Then again, maybe > > The tuna salad they ate was VERY white - I think it had tons of mayo in > it. Hmm. They were perhaps pretending to be Southern. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:50:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2oIkq020323 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:50:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7DF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:49:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:49:15 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2nEU31323 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:49:14 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.23]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4O7QG03.2RZ for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:47:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBCA57E.D847B0BA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:48:30 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC454E.DC4AC044@maynor.net> <3DBC9F7E.40A948AD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBCA467.FA615B54@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I started to say that it's a southwest thing, but then I remembered that > you grew up in a northern place. Right? Steuben County, Indiana. Any farther east or north and you're in either Ohio or Michigan. > The only other thing I can > make of it is that you and Bethany are or were into a food item that > grosses me out. Now what to make of that I'm not sure. You and Bethany > share something ? I'm mutant for finding the idea of mayonnaise > and iceberg lettuce repulsive? I dunno. I grew up hating "rabbit food". JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:51:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2pOkq020334 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:51:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7DFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:50:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:50:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:emozqIp2m9BXpeo/KrLcKzhY1GWebYRZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2eKU30740 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:40:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9462FFDF for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8AEA27C0F; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:40:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 27, 2002 9:28: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:40:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028024019.8AEA27C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > There are several places I could live easily, at least for a while > - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. California? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:57:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2vAkq020408 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:57:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7E2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:56:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:56:07 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2u7U31824 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:56:07 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id B59B42B595; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:56:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC402B591 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:56:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBC9F7E.40A948AD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In my formative years that was known as "salad". Make of that what you > will. Me, too, John. Except the mayo was blended with ketchup. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 20:58:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S2wHkq020446 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:58:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AB9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:57:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:57:15 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2vEU31928 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:57:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.231]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028025853.FSLG27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:58:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCA785.E5EE0A8D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:57:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >But taking Bethany's lead in thinking about what route to take after > >retirement, it has occurred to me that I could go to Ole Miss and get a > >degree in "Southern Studies." > > The best part is you could live in Oxford. When I was there for SECOL, I > was prepared to move there - I visited several lawyers to inquire whether > they thought I could make a living there. They said they thought I > could. There are several places I could live easily, at least for a while > - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. Oxford is pretty and has some other good things about it, but I really don't think it's the kind of place I want to live. Maybe I'm letting history interfere too much in my attitude. I certainly don't think long-ago history should taint a place. But history in my living memory bothers me. I well remember the tear gas and the riots at Ole Miss. And I also well remember what happened at what is known as "The People's University." As in all people. That matters to me. And even though we're talking now about a good many years ago, I prefer being with The People. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:00:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S30vkq020514 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:00:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7E43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 21:59:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:59:54 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2xrU32027 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:59:54 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 458AA2B595; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:59:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8592B591 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:59:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:59:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. I wish I lived in Berkeley. When I first came here, the last place I wanted to live was Berkeley - - too much like Ann Arbor. Now I want to live there, I don't mind that everybody is so fucking young year after year in the majority. Not at all. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:06:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S36akq020600 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:06:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7E96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:05:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:05:33 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2tXU31788 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:55:33 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9S2tWhA010121 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:55:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:55:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028024019.8AEA27C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> There are several places I could live easily, at least for a while >> - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. > >California? Oh yes. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:07:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S37akq020611 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:07:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7E9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:06:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:06:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:87Z2dixWuTLpQhX8BMZK/hnCysc8kTpp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S2uWU31831 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:56:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DA12FDDF for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:56:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B7257C3C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:56:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Oct 27, 2002 6:56: 6 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 18:56:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028025632.3B7257C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > > In my formative years that was known as "salad". Make of that what you > > will. > > Me, too, John. Except the mayo was blended with ketchup. And pickles? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:08:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S380kq020618 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:08:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AC47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:06:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:06:57 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S36vU00439 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:06:57 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S36tc12257 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:06:55 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9S36rRG032516 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:06:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027190735.00a57b80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:08:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:59 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. > >I wish I lived in Berkeley. > >When I first came here, the last place I wanted to live was Berkeley - - >too much like Ann Arbor. > >Now I want to live there, I don't mind that everybody is so fucking young >year after year in the majority. Not at all. Berkeley is cool. We couldn't afford to live there so we kept going further and further away until we found Pinole. Albany would have been better. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:12:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3CTkq020630 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:12:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7EBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:11:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:11:26 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RfTVb1gahcKsUhGy15bINByc20a5gXNE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S31QU32205 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:01:26 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A518F2FDDF for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5B6537C1A; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:01:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Oct 27, 2002 6:59:52 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:01:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028030125.5B6537C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > Now I want to live there, I don't mind that everybody is so fucking young > year after year in the majority. Not at all. When I used to visit my grandmother there, there was a sizable older population in Berkeley. I guess they died off. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:13:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3Dwkq020644 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:13:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AC69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:12:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:12:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S32tU32383 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:02:55 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9S32thA012091 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:02:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:02:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: life on a crutch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I though I would be off crutches by now, but I wil be on my single crutch for a while longer - they ask that I use it most of the time until I am no longer favoring my right leg at all. I will go to therapy 3 x this week and next, then perhaps twice a week for a couple of weeks. And I have to do exercises at home 2-3 times a day. I skipped choir this morning - choir robes and crutches do not seem to me to be a good mix. We are to rehearse with our small orchestra Wed. night in prep. for the All Saints service on Sunday - I do plan to participate, even if I have to abandon my crutch temporarily. The crutch makes it unhandy to walk very far. I am trying to figure out how to go to an 11:00 am funeral service in the morning while also meeting other obligations. Parking is the issue. The funeral is for a very prominent citizen/lawyer, and there will be no parking available anywhere downtown near the Cathedral by 9:30, I suspect. I might just take a cab - but I will need to have my vehicle after the funeral, so I don't know if that will work ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:14:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3EOkq020648 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:14:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AC6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:13:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:13:15 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail008.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3DFU00796 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:13:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.84]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028031454.IQZZ15021.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCAB43.8C07A700@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:13:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > When I first came here, the last place I wanted to live was Berkeley - - > too much like Ann Arbor. > > Now I want to live there, I don't mind that everybody is so fucking young > year after year in the majority. Not at all. One of my colleagues still owns the house he lived in when he was a grad student in Berkeley. (I've never asked him how a grad student can afford to buy a house.) He's planning on retiring a few years from now, and they (he and his wife) are going to live part of the time in Berkeley and part of the time on some land they bought a couple of years ago in New Mexico -- bought on a whim because they said that in driving between here and California they passed through New Mexico and liked it. So what's the point of my story? I can't remember exactly, but I think it's that these friends of mine like Berkeley. I hate that they're going to move away since that will mean no more Chiggerfests. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:17:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3H3kq020750 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:17:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7EE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:16:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:16:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:G8MSltlBnx/Ak0TduOJ+hu1NFm6guGlN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S35xU00379 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:05:59 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1AC2FEC9 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6F2017C11; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:05:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 27, 2002 9:55:32 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:05:58 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028030558.6F2017C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > >> There are several places I could live easily, at least for a while > >> - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. > > > >California? > > Oh yes. I'm impressed that you could afford it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:18:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3IUkq020805 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:18:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7EF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:17:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:17:27 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail008.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3HRU01089 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:17:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.84]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028031906.ISXB15021.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCAC41.B3EDB331@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:17:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > The crutch makes it unhandy to walk very far. I am trying to figure out > how to go to an 11:00 am funeral service in the morning while also meeting > other obligations. Parking is the issue. The funeral is for a Are there temporary handicap decals to be had -- to be acquired without another huge hassle? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:19:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3JGkq020811 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:19:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7EF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:18:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:18:13 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3IDU01128 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:18:13 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4O00HCI96C7K@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:18:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:18:05 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: So We are Naive To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBCAC6D.1000709@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DB9E0D1.9050600@swbell.net> <3DB9F35A.2D1E03FB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9FAC9.2060507@swbell.net> <168846059.20021027193430@gailndan.com> <3DBCA464.F062518A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > >>10/25/2002, 7:15 PM, Rita Chapman wrote: >> >> >>>>>>>(Though I suspect the whole attitude is arising out of a more basic >>>>>>>error, that of thinking that your personal conduct has anything to >>>>>>>do with USA's diplomatic and military conduct. By the way, isn't it >>>>>>>a bit arrogant to act like the minority you are part of represents >>>>>>>every American in every minor, boring detail?) >>>>>>> > > =================== > > >>>> True, any individual has minimal effect upon national policy. But >>>>what evidence do you have to say that Doris is in a minority? And if she >>>>is, shouldn't the Politics of Inclusion respect her input? And isn't >>>>calling her a "minority" a tad arrogant? "We outnumber you, therefore >>>>your opinion is worthless." (Sorry, minor and boring.) >>>> > > =================== > > >> >>RC> I think Dan wrote everything you've quoted above. I didn't. >>RC> I don't think she is the minority, as a matter of fact. I >>RC> think she is the mainstream I read about. >> >>Just for the record, Dan didn't write any of that. Sorry. Anyone who >>cares can figure it out, but I don't know, don't give a shit, just >>that it wasn't me. >> > > No, he didn't. *I* did, just for the record. Sorry. Duly noted. Want some mayo? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:20:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3K7kq020824 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:20:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7EFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:19:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:19:04 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3J4U01200 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:19:04 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 0E2AA2B595; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:19:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3D62B591 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:19:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:18:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028025632.3B7257C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > And pickles? Nope. Pickles, except for sweet ones, were foreign and ethnic. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:21:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3LSkq020891 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:21:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7F02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:20:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:20:25 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3KPU01306 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:20:25 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2367C2B591; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECCB2B1D0 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:20:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:20:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028030125.5B6537C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > When I used to visit my grandmother there, there was a sizable older > population in Berkeley. I guess they died off. No, I think they're still there. But maybe not for long, with house prices soaring. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:22:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3Mkkq021010 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:22:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7F0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:21:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:21:43 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3LgU01348 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:21:43 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 00D3A2B591; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E234F2B1D0 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:21:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:21:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: - a journal entry -\ thanks, Bethany, this sounds like it came from you and not An Observer. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:23:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3NTkq021018 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:23:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7F11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:22:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:22:26 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3MQU01413 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:22:26 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4O00HHD9DD7K@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:22:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:22:17 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Weekend To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBCAD69.5090109@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBC82C6.5B213DC2@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's things like this that are appealing about teaching k-12 instead of > college. In other ways there are disadvantages to k-12. You have far > less flexibility in time when you're teaching -- like you could never > schedule something like a medical or dental appointment at some time > like 1 p.m. But when there are breaks, like spring break, they're more > likely to be real breaks since you don't have the worry about the > publication stuff -- the guilt about going out of town for spring break > instead of working. Ditto summers. I don't find it hard to get appointments at 3:30 when most people are still at work, so it's not so bad. And some day I will have the time to myself -- for the forseeable future I'll be using breaks to finish up my degree (not Christmas or spring break, though). I am expected to publish, though. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:24:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3OFkq021027 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:24:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F7F1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:23:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:23:13 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3NBU01549 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:23:11 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id C2D772B595; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B380B2B591 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:23:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:23:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How was your day today, Janet? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:25:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3PLkq021098 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7F25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:24:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:24:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:uVzrZaO2Y+vGhK13Q62qMYVo7/x1qrJz@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3EIU00884 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:14:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76102FEB4 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 63D757C09; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: life on a crutch In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 27, 2002 10: 2:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028031417.63D757C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > The crutch makes it unhandy to walk very far. I am trying to figure out > how to go to an 11:00 am funeral service in the morning while also meeting > other obligations. Parking is the issue. The funeral is for a > very prominent citizen/lawyer, and there will be no parking available > anywhere downtown near the Cathedral by 9:30, I suspect. I might just take > a cab - but I will need to have my vehicle after the funeral, so I don't > know if that will work ... Aren't you eligible for a temporary handicapped placard? Though I don't suppose you can get one by 11 tomorrow morning. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:29:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3TLkq021151 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AD70@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:28:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:28:09 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3S9U02122 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:28:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.142]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028032947.HCQJ12088.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:29:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCAEC0.C9A96DF0@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:28:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weekend References: <3DBC82C6.5B213DC2@maynor.net> <3DBCAD69.5090109@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I am expected to publish, though. I had wondered whether that had spread to high schools as a real requirement. I know that high school teachers do publish, but I didn't know how much of a requirement it had become. From the selfish pov, as in what would make your life easier as opposed to the good of the students, I would say that going on and getting a PhD and teaching college would be easier if the publication thing is going to rule anyway. But I do like that you are teaching hs because I think people like you are super important there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:30:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3UCkq021204 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:30:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7F86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:29:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:29:09 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3T8U02196 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:29:09 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4O009RI9OKAS@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:29:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:28:57 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBCAEF9.7090608@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> No, just don't eat that sort of thing very often compared to >>southerners. >> > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern (though I had never > really thought about a mayonnaise association), but I didn't know that > tunafish salad and chicken sald were. I think of them as women's food > more than men's food but hadn't thought of them as regional. Chicken > salad is something I associate with eating lunch > together. Have it your way, Natalie. I don't care that much about mayonnaise to get into Yet Another Ersatz Civil War with you. I'm just reporting on a thing I've -- I haven't written a thesis on the subject. This Yankee won't touch a disgusting tuna sandwich, with or without mayonnaise, which just goes to show ya. >>I found some hilarious web hits about how >>southerners eat mayo, btw -- >> > > And you're not sharing? I'm interested in this topic because it reminds > me of how late in life it was that I discovered that "English peas" was > a Southern term. The mayonnaise connection is something else that I'm > discovering late in life. (Fwiw, I consider "mayo" a Yankee term. I > know what it means but can't imagine ever using it myself and can't > remember having heard it often. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever heard > it in real life. When I think of it, I think of movies and of something > like a NYC accent saying it. No, they're gone from my history, now. I'll be sure to say "mayo" next time I see you. I have no idea whether or not it is a regionalism. Could be. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:32:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3WZkq021644 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:32:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AD8E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:31:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:31:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:IcJzmd2M8rxv1bs3USyWtsJIzQ4nr5vW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3LVU01337 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:21:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680D32FEB4 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 199DF7C11; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Oct 27, 2002 7:18:59 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:21:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028032131.199DF7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > And pickles? > > Nope. Pickles, except for sweet ones, were foreign and ethnic. What were the lumps in 1000 Island dressing? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:32:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3Wtkq021707 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:32:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7FB0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:31:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:31:52 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3VqU02426 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:31:52 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4O009WH9T3AS@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:31:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:31:40 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Weekend To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBCAF9C.7020905@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBC82C6.5B213DC2@maynor.net> <3DBCAD69.5090109@swbell.net> <3DBCAEC0.C9A96DF0@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> I am expected to publish, though. >> > > I had wondered whether that had spread to high schools as a real > requirement. I know that high school teachers do publish, but I didn't > know how much of a requirement it had become. From the selfish pov, as > in what would make your life easier as opposed to the good of the > students, I would say that going on and getting a PhD and teaching > college would be easier if the publication thing is going to rule > anyway. But I do like that you are teaching hs because I think people > like you are super important there. It isn't widespread -- WGHS is just like that. I'm in a department full of expensive degrees (the guy hired along with me this year has his from Harvard) and a couple of PhD's. I think my pub creds are what got me hired. But it is NOTHING like I'd be expected to do at the university level. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:34:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3YUkq021723 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:34:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F7FBC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:33:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:33:27 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RzxArYcHzSCVCJqsAt4zD8Rdg3wLg84L@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3NRU01569 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:23:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E423A2FED5 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7CD87C14; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:23:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Oct 27, 2002 7:20:24 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:23:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028032326.A7CD87C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > When I used to visit my grandmother there, there was a sizable older > > population in Berkeley. I guess they died off. > > No, I think they're still there. > > But maybe not for long, with house prices soaring. My grandmother's lovely, wonderful, fabulous house has been turned into a shitpile. The house of the woman who was a major factor in my becoming an Asianist isn't much better, and I think Mrs. Dodge's house is a crack house. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:35:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3ZKkq021735 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:35:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F7FC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:34:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:34:17 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3YGU02728 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:34:17 -0500 Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 5F21A2B595; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:34:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E982B591 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:34:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:34:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028032131.199DF7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > What were the lumps in 1000 Island dressing? > Pickles, probably. But no such lumps in our house. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:44:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3iBkq021975 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:44:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F800F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:43:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:43:08 -0500 Received: from imf28bis.bellsouth.net (mail128.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3h8U03608 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:43:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.2]) by imf28bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028034157.TXHR5573.imf28bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:41:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBCB244.35CF483A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:43:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <3DBCAEF9.7090608@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Rita Chapman wrote: > > > >> No, just don't eat that sort of thing very often compared to > >>southerners. > >> > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern (though I had never > > really thought about a mayonnaise association), but I didn't know that > > tunafish salad and chicken sald were. I think of them as women's food > > more than men's food but hadn't thought of them as regional. Chicken > > salad is something I associate with eating lunch > > together. > > Have it your way, Natalie. I don't care that much about > mayonnaise to get into Yet Another Ersatz Civil War with > you. I'm just reporting on a thing I've -- I > haven't written a thesis on the subject. This Yankee won't > touch a disgusting tuna sandwich, with or without > mayonnaise, which just goes to show ya. I have made sure not to zap anything. (I normally zap stuff that I think isn't essential to the thread because of cutting down on excess crap). But in this case I didn't want to risk zapping anything since my boggled mind wasn't sure whether it would be ok.) My way?? I was simply asking about whether tunafish salad and chicken salad were regional things. How is asking such a question "having it my way"? Iow, what the fuck are you talking about? > >>I found some hilarious web hits about how > >>southerners eat mayo, btw -- > > And you're not sharing? > > ... > No, they're gone from my history, now. Uh huh. That is indeed compelling evidence of Southerners and . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:51:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3pFkq023045 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:51:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F805D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:50:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:50:12 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3oCU04428 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:50:12 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4O009HLANNAS@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:50:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:49:46 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBCB3DA.3090600@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <3DBCAEF9.7090608@swbell.net> <3DBCB244.35CF483A@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >>>Rita Chapman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> No, just don't eat that sort of thing very often compared to >>>>southerners. >>>> >>>> >>>I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern (though I had never >>>really thought about a mayonnaise association), but I didn't know that >>>tunafish salad and chicken sald were. I think of them as women's food >>>more than men's food but hadn't thought of them as regional. Chicken >>>salad is something I associate with eating lunch >>>together. >>> >> Have it your way, Natalie. I don't care that much about >>mayonnaise to get into Yet Another Ersatz Civil War with >>you. I'm just reporting on a thing I've -- I >>haven't written a thesis on the subject. This Yankee won't >>touch a disgusting tuna sandwich, with or without >>mayonnaise, which just goes to show ya. >> > > I have made sure not to zap anything. (I normally zap stuff that I > think isn't essential to the thread because of cutting down on excess > crap). But in this case I didn't want to risk zapping anything since my > boggled mind wasn't sure whether it would be ok.) > > My way?? I was simply asking about whether tunafish salad and chicken > salad were regional things. How is asking such a question "having it my > way"? Iow, what the fuck are you talking about? They're not as far as I know. I don't know why white southerners are associated with mayonnaise and white bread. You should tell me. And if you gagging at the idea of mayonnaise on lettuce is evidence of southern eating habits, then my gagging at the thought of a tuna sandwich is surely evidence of Yankee eating habits. > >>>>I found some hilarious web hits about how >>>>southerners eat mayo, btw -- >>>> > >>>And you're not sharing? >>>... >>> >> No, they're gone from my history, now. >> > > Uh huh. That is indeed compelling evidence of Southerners and . > I tole ya I ain't doin no stinkin' thesis, woman! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:51:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3pYkq023053 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:51:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F8063@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:50:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:50:30 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f120.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3oUU04482 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:50:30 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:50:21 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 03:50:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 03:50:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 03:50:21.0858 (UTC) FILETIME=[23C9A820:01C27E35] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >I am moving closer by the second to vegetarianism. We've been hearing you say this for at least ten years now. Go ahead and do it already. Enough thinking. FWIW, I think of southern cuisine as more likely to be mayo-drenched than northeastern. I'm no scholar on the subject, have no cites to back this. I think of mayonnaise on sandwiches as being the norm in the midwest. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:59:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3xFkq023384 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:59:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AE1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:43:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:43:44 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3hiU03678 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:43:44 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3hfc04456 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:43:41 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9S3heRG019124 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:43:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027194456.00a5bb60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:45:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028030125.5B6537C1A@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:01 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Ann Borkin said: > > Now I want to live there, I don't mind that everybody is so fucking young > > year after year in the majority. Not at all. > >When I used to visit my grandmother there, there was a sizable older >population in Berkeley. I guess they died off. Berkeley still has a lot of old farts. They are very important, imo. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:59:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3xFkq023385 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:59:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AE2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:45:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:45:43 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3jhU03853 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:45:43 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3jfc06669 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:45:41 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9S3jgRG024887 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:45:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021027194658.00a55850@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:47:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: <20021028030125.5B6537C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:20 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: >On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > > When I used to visit my grandmother there, there was a sizable older > > population in Berkeley. I guess they died off. > >No, I think they're still there. > >But maybe not for long, with house prices soaring. One of my retired friends is selling her house and moving to Rossmore. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:59:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3xFkq023386 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:59:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AE34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:46:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:46:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OfOxtk3VpDcHqHPynJFT5mea3czpRm9a@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3aXU02864 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:36:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BB62FE83 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E9257C21; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:36:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Oct 27, 2002 7:34:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:36:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028033629.4E9257C21@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > > What were the lumps in 1000 Island dressing? > > > > Pickles, probably. But no such lumps in our house. Ah. Smart people! I'm so glad no one forces me to eat 1000 Island Dressing any more. If I end up in an old age home, they'd better offer a lot of Asian food, or I'd better be senile. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 21:59:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S3xekq023591 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:59:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409AFBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 22:58:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:58:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PcMZbM0lCHQfpqoVa5Lhp8h9fO02H1bD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3mbU04115 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:48:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9258A2FF2B for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 63BB07C0F; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:48:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021027194456.00a5bb60@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Oct 27, 2002 7:45:37 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:48:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028034836.63BB07C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 07:01 PM 10/27/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Ann Borkin said: > > > Now I want to live there, I don't mind that everybody is so fucking young > > > year after year in the majority. Not at all. > > > >When I used to visit my grandmother there, there was a sizable older > >population in Berkeley. I guess they died off. > > Berkeley still has a lot of old farts. They are very important, imo. Yep. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:05:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S45Xkq023974 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:05:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409B337@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:04:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:04:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vEMRkYeGNmqz7ELsuSa76pyrpf7yWPPJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S3sUU04831 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:54:30 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD502FF2B for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 539F77C28; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:54:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Oct 28, 2002 3:50:21 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:54:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028035429.539F77C28@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > I think of mayonnaise on sandwiches as being > the norm in the midwest. Karen, midwesterner From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:06:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S46Ykq023984 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:06:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F8267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:05:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:05:31 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f254.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S45VU07198 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:05:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:05:25 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:05:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: So We are Naive Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:05:25 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 04:05:25.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E676620:01C27E37] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris, Marie, Betty, Marie: > > >>one persona? Take that Ann Borkin, > > >>for instance. You're never gonna know > > >>what her real thoughts are. > > > >I don't agree. I think la Bork is pretty clear in a translucent kind of >way. > > >You've got to read between the lines, but that's half the fun. > > Can you interpret JMW? Sometimes I can't read over or under the lines. > > Often not. But I generally understand his position. I'm with Marie on both counts. My proudest moment was identifying Kurt Anderson's book based on the most oblique, cryptic, throwaway comment by JMW. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:06:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S46wkq023989 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:06:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409B3D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:05:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:05:55 -0500 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S45sU07253 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:05:55 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861A1-00011d-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:05:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:00:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >such extremely southern lunches - while the New Englanders, who were >slightly shocked by what we ate, ate tuna sandwiches on white bread all >summer. I remember one saying that she would happily eat it for lunch >every day. I can't imagine a sandwich I'd happily eat for lunch every day. Even my favorite sandwich -- rare roast beef with pepper jack on rye -- would pall after a couple of weeks, I think. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:16:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4GKkq024084 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:16:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F82CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:15:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:15:17 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4FGU09226 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:15:16 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861J5-0000Xh-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:15:16 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DBCA312.CA433461@maynor.net> References: <20021028021426.EE04B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBCA312.CA433461@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:09:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen Kay wrote: >> > > Lots of people buy books at Waldenbooks, B&N, Borders, etc. >> > >> > I don't understand your point. I didn't say that anybody who might be >> > inclined to follow the advice to buy some book or the other would also >> > follow the advice to buy it from an independent bookseller. >> >> I'm not going to get in another round-and-round pointless argument >> with you; go masturbate alone. > >Another useful reply. It's ok with me not to understand your point. I >will not lie sleepness at night wondering why you think that buying >books at chains stores means you don't know they're chain stores. I do >kind of wonder how somebody can masturbate other than alone, though. Um... next to someone? In front of an audience? Mutual masturbation? Janet puzzled From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:17:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4HMkq024091 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:17:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F82D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:16:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966499 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:16:18 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4GIU09602 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:16:18 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861K5-0001b1-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:16:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:10:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > >>> There are several places I could live easily, at least for a while > >> - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. > > > >California? > >Oh yes. Let me know if there's anything I can do in the way of information or guidance. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:18:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4Iqkq024098 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:18:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F82E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:17:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:17:48 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4HmU10079 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:17:48 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861LY-00038x-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:17:48 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:12:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > >> When I used to visit my grandmother there, there was a sizable older >> population in Berkeley. I guess they died off. > >No, I think they're still there. > >But maybe not for long, with house prices soaring. They all moved to El Cerrito. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:21:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4LHkq024111 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:21:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F8302@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:20:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:20:14 -0500 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4KDU10770 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:20:13 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861Nt-0001hN-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:20:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:14:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hell Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >How was your day today, Janet? Better, except my back has gone into spasm and I'm pretty uncomfortable. Got up, puttered around, took some pain meds, went back to bed, slept for a lot of the afternoon. Drove to Oakland and got my ATM card back. Stopped at the office to check the mail. Stopped by Paul's house to borrow enough pain meds to get me through until I can pick up my own prescription. Came home and bought a pizza as a thank-you to Ben and Derek for bringing the bed in from the van. Just about to get into bed and finish the Carl Hiassen I'm reading. I'd meant to clean out the front hall closet today, but fuckit. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:21:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4LVkq024115 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:21:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F8305@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:20:27 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PriyXXA73LRwXreg/VRWD141edTRpowC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4ARU07871 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:10:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7896030005 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3CC657C1C; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:10:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 27, 2002 7: 0: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:10:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028041026.3CC657C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > I can't imagine a sandwich I'd happily eat for lunch every day. Even > my favorite sandwich -- rare roast beef with pepper jack on rye -- > would pall after a couple of weeks, I think. Costco sliced roast beef is very good--and sliced turkey. My enthusiasm doesn't last as long as the package does, but that's why we have freezers. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:23:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4N2kq024121 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:23:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F8313@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:21:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:21:59 -0500 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4LxU11184 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:21:59 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861PX-0003RH-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:21:55 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DBCB244.35CF483A@maynor.net> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <3DBCAEF9.7090608@swbell.net> <3DBCB244.35CF483A@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:16:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >My way?? I was simply asking about whether tunafish salad and chicken >salad were regional things. How is asking such a question "having it my >way"? Iow, what the fuck are you talking about? I had both when growing up. Chicken salad was a special treat -- my mother makes the best I've ever tasted, with large hand-chopped chunks of dill pickle and just a little mayonnaise to hold the whole thing together. A little mustard, too, I think. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:30:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4U0kq024175 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:30:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F8351@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:28:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:28:57 -0500 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4SvU11614 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:28:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.104.1e3e0bc0 (3866) for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:28:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <104.1e3e0bc0.2aee16fe@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:28:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2002 10:06:03 PM Central Standard Time, verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << I can't imagine a sandwich I'd happily eat for lunch every day. >> One semester at Akron U. I got a Quarter Pounder value meal every day. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:31:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4Vjkq024212 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:31:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F8361@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:30:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:30:42 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4UgU11773 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:30:42 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.156.168e212a (3866) for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:30:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <156.168e212a.2aee176b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:30:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hell Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/27/2002 10:20:31 PM Central Standard Time, verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << Better, except my back has gone into spasm and I'm pretty uncomfortable. >> Have you tried those hot patches? I use them for my neck, and they work pretty well. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:36:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4ajkq024261 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:36:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409B497@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:35:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:35:41 -0500 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4ZfU12150 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:35:41 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861cq-0002lD-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:35:40 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <156.168e212a.2aee176b@aol.com> References: <156.168e212a.2aee176b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:29:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hell Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >In a message dated 10/27/2002 10:20:31 PM Central Standard Time, >verdie@EARTHLINK.NET writes: > ><< >Better, except my back has gone into spasm and I'm pretty >uncomfortable. >>> > >Have you tried those hot patches? I use them for my neck, >and they work pretty well. No, I haven't. They might be helpful during my more usual back problems, when it's up around my shoulders. But whatever I did to myself this time seems to extend over my entire back, from trapezius muscles down to the lower spine. It's pretty nasty. I'll try to get in to see my wonderful chiropractor/bodyworker this week; he's usually able to fix this sort of thing right up. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:39:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4dpkq024410 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:39:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F8471@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:38:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2966709 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:38:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:EnD9kLg9LcGgf91z3E7uwmGiolVp8cVL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4SVU11595 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:28:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398742FECA for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:28:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0F7B27C11; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:28:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 27, 2002 7:14:22 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:28:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028042831.0F7B27C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > Better, except my back has gone into spasm and I'm pretty > uncomfortable. I forget if you have a physioball, but draping yourself over it (facedown) could feel pretty good. > I'd meant to clean out the front hall closet today, but fuckit. Indeed. ObDan: I went and bought roses on sale today instead of doing anything productive. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:50:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4oDkq024490 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:50:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F84C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:49:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2968480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:49:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fg9IpAfuZAw1AI/PSRVJ8MsfB+zJGg0J@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4d9U12842 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:39:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5629C2FE4F for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 136E27C10; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:39:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 27, 2002 7:29:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:39:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028043903.136E27C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > No, I haven't. They might be helpful during my more usual back > problems, when it's up around my shoulders. But whatever I did to > myself this time seems to extend over my entire back, from trapezius > muscles down to the lower spine. It's pretty nasty. Sounds like s-t-r-e-s-s. Sorry to hear it. > I'll try to get in to see my wonderful chiropractor/bodyworker this > week; he's usually able to fix this sort of thing right up. I hope so. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:54:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4sTkq024505 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:54:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409B7A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:53:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2968964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:53:23 -0500 Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4rMU14053 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:53:22 -0500 Received: from user-vcauot3.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.99.163] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1861ty-00051G-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:53:22 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021028042831.0F7B27C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028042831.0F7B27C11@yellow.rahul.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:47:34 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hell Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Janet Hardy said: >> Better, except my back has gone into spasm and I'm pretty >> uncomfortable. > >I forget if you have a physioball, but draping yourself over it >(facedown) could feel pretty good. I do. I'd never thought of trying it face-down, though -- I lay on it face-up for ten minutes or so today. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 22:59:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S4x3kq024540 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:59:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F850C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:57:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2969174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:57:59 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4vxU14450 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:57:59 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3D5130226; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:57:57 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:57:56 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12617451884.20021027215756@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> References: <3DB98047.585874DC@valstar.net> <3DB9DA91.E4F3D0F0@maynor.net> <3DB9DD60.8010701@swbell.net> <3DB9EA4B.EDA2B3CE@valstar.net> <3DB9EB03.18455DE0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9EC1F.1030100@swbell.net> <3DB9EEFF.11A57F9C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9F15C.FE6F2280@valstar.net> <3DB9F814.CB489B25@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/26/2002, 6:17 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Private booksellers need to keep records for tax purposes. I suppose I ac> could label all of my sales as "Sold to Ms. X." However, businesspeople ac> like to keep customer information for various reasons--in case of a ac> complaint or return and to be able to make offers of similar books, and ac> for credit card sales, we need to keep the numbers, at least for a few ac> months until we are sure the sale is final and not to be recalled. Understand perfectly why you may want to keep more info on purchases....but to coin a phrase, ya takes your money and makes your choice. Which is more important to you? Libraries have made theirs, even though excactly the same possibilities pertain to library patrons. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 23:00:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S50Jkq024601 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:00:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F8531@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 27 Oct 2002 23:59:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2969257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:59:15 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S4xEU14554 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:59:15 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A42150238; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:59:13 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:59:11 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8117527302.20021027215911@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bellesiles In-Reply-To: <3DBA98DE.D8850820@valstar.net> References: <3DBA98DE.D8850820@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/26/2002, 6:30 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> http://www.emory.edu/central/NEWS/Releases/Final_Report.pdf ac> Although the report was written some time ago (July 10), and it was ac> known that Bellesiles appealed the decision, the decision itself was ac> just released along with the announcement of his resignation. Glad to hear it. An acquaintance here is one of his main critics, and one of those that led to the Emory report. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 23:15:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S5F2kq024872 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:15:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F8653@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 0:13:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2970915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:12:59 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S55cU15828 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:05:38 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A596220240; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:05:26 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:05:25 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14817900960.20021027220525@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bellesiles In-Reply-To: <3DBA98DE.D8850820@valstar.net> References: <3DBA98DE.D8850820@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For those who've not already found it, try.... http://www.emory.edu/central/NEWS/ 10/26/2002, 6:30 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> For anyone who's interested, the report of the committee appointed by ac> Emory University to investigate the scholarship underlying Michael ac> Bellesiles' award winning book, "Arming America: The Origins of a ac> National Gun Culture" is available at: ac> http://www.emory.edu/central/NEWS/Releases/Final_Report.pdf ac> Although the report was written some time ago (July 10), and it was ac> known that Bellesiles appealed the decision, the decision itself was ac> just released along with the announcement of his resignation. ac> -- ac> alyce -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 23:24:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S5O7kq025034 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:24:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409BB3B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 0:23:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2971115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:23:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Mb6Mh/QOaN2eMHZ7eXM69d8pdRU4zPZD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S58CU16094 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:08:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BB23004C for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C1FF7C10; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:08:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 27, 2002 7:47:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 21:08:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028050812.3C1FF7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > >Janet Hardy said: > >> Better, except my back has gone into spasm and I'm pretty > >> uncomfortable. > > > >I forget if you have a physioball, but draping yourself over it > >(facedown) could feel pretty good. > > I do. I'd never thought of trying it face-down, though -- I lay on it > face-up for ten minutes or so today. Face-up helps relax the shoulders and . Face-down helps relax the back--my hips and lower back just melt on that thing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Oct 27 23:29:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S5Tikq025085 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:29:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F86F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 0:28:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2971861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:28:40 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S5SeU17814 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:28:40 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AB03A029A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:28:35 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:28:33 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7119289266.20021027222833@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: weekend In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026173655.00a03a30@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021026173655.00a03a30@pop3.norton.antivirus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/26/2002, 2:40 PM, bonniev wrote: b> Oh, goody. We are doing diary entries. So, Friday night we had friends over for bridge. Saturday morning we got up and Gail went to water aerobics. I wimped out due to an intestinal problem and not wanting to foul the pool. After that we took a nap. We went out to Macaroni Grill for lunch and bought a new battery for the UPS. In the afternoon I did a little cleaning around the house and we watched Boise State demolish San Jose State on the tube. Then we watched a threesome of L&O shows that we'd tivoed and we went to bed. This morning we slept in and watched the CBS Sunday morning show...forget what it is called. Then instead of church Gail went shopping and I weeded flower beds for a couple hours. Then we watched the Raiders lose. Tonite we watched several Tivoed shows, including 6fu and sopranos. Now gail is sleeping and I will be soon. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:02:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S623kq026283 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:02:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409BC6F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:00:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2972786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:00:59 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S60xU20109 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:00:59 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A299202F6; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:00:57 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:00:55 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12121231429.20021027230055@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: egocentric post In-Reply-To: <3DBC966A.B6D718DC@maynor.net> References: <20021023213531.3262A7C25@yellow.rahul.net> <141755144390.20021024064540@gailndan.com> <3DB86B71.6F82BE40@maynor.net> <171850066160.20021025090742@gailndan.com> <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> <1095187118.20021027183331@gailndan.com> <3DBC966A.B6D718DC@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 6:44 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> NM> -- just chitchat about our lives.) What are ALS and TLS? >> >> Assume those have been answered by now. NM> No, I don't think so. If they have, I've overlooked the answer. Autograph Letter Signed and Typed Letter Signed -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S644kq026303 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:04:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409BC97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:03:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2972944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:03:00 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S62xU20461 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:02:59 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A310802F6; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:02:56 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:02:54 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9321350290.20021027230254@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Translation please. In-Reply-To: <3DBC978A.887E83D@maynor.net> References: <20021024224558.282CC7C5F@yellow.rahul.net> <72850405528.20021025091321@gailndan.com> <3DB9CBB6.A490CB37@maynor.net> <15297206.20021027183521@gailndan.com> <3DBC978A.887E83D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 6:48 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> In the picture you posted (or rather told us the url for) it appears NM> that your front yard is a small, flat, untreed space. In that case it NM> would be quite easy for the carrier to toss it to your front porch. NM> What I found mutant was not that your newspaper is tossed to your front NM> porch but your assumption that everybody who subscribes to a newspaper NM> has a small, treeless front yard. My front yard has no trees directly in front of the porch. However the porch is about ten feet higher than the street, due to a very steep hill. However, I had the same expectations and delivery of service in several other places I've lived. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:05:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S65Gkq026318 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:05:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F881A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:04:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2972979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:04:12 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S64BU20582 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:04:11 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A358320238; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:04:08 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:04:04 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2621419840.20021027230404@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: egocentric post In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021027180023.00a4fd90@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> <20021023213531.3262A7C25@yellow.rahul.net> <141755144390.20021024064540@gailndan.com> <3DB86B71.6F82BE40@maynor.net> <171850066160.20021025090742@gailndan.com> <3DB9C9AF.2F933E44@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20021027180023.00a4fd90@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 7:00 PM, Betty wrote: >>Assume those have been answered by now. B> Did you have a good week end, Dan? Had by then, and since then. My weekend "diary" has been posted, and assume you've seen it by now. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:08:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S688kq026337 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:08:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F8837@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:07:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2973054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:07:04 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S673U20878 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:07:03 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A4051702A6; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:07:01 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:07:00 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4421595863.20021027230700@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <20021028022757.2AE877C18@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028022757.2AE877C18@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 7:27 PM, Karen Kay wrote: >> So that's why the snipers did their thing? It is Dyke's fault? >> Or Bush's fault? KK> Ligniere has developed a conspiracy theory about Wellstone's plane KK> going down... He's hardly the first, and I'm surprised such hasn't been mentioned on this before now. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:09:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S69Kkq026355 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:09:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F883C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:08:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2973079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:08:16 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S68GU20954 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:08:16 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A44E370214; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:08:14 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:08:12 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <221668377.20021027230812@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: wellstone's plane down In-Reply-To: <3DBCA312.CA433461@maynor.net> References: <20021028021426.EE04B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBCA312.CA433461@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 7:38 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> I do NM> kind of wonder how somebody can masturbate other than alone, though. Mutancy alert. Mutancy alert. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:11:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S6B0kq026459 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:11:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F8850@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:09:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2973181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:09:55 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S69sU21089 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:09:54 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A4B02702A6; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:09:52 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:09:50 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <9021766118.20021027230950@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 7:56 PM, Ann Borkin wrote: >> In my formative years that was known as "salad". Make of that what you >> will. AB> Me, too, John. Except the mayo was blended with ketchup. And a little pickle relish to make it thousnad island dressing. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:16:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S6G1kq026794 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:16:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F886B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:14:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2973269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:14:55 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S6EtU21431 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:14:55 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A5DDB30074; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:14:53 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:14:51 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14522067571.20021027231451@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 8:34 PM, Ann Borkin wrote: >> >> What were the lumps in 1000 Island dressing? >> AB> Pickles, probably. But no such lumps in our house. Also bits of chopped hard boiled egg, which I forgot to mention in previous post. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:17:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S6Hskq026905 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:17:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409BD05@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:16:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2973295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:16:50 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S6GoU21563 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:16:50 -0500 Received: from dan [24.116.147.195] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A650A024C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:16:48 EST Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:16:46 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3222182146.20021027231646@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hell Day In-Reply-To: <20021028042831.0F7B27C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028042831.0F7B27C11@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/27/2002, 9:28 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Indeed. ObDan: I went and bought roses on sale today instead of doing KK> anything productive. A bouquet, or bushes, or what? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:41:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S6fekq027882 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:41:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F8905@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:40:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2973736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:40:36 -0500 Received: from smtp03.wlv.untd.com (smtp03.wlv.untd.com [209.247.163.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9S6eZU22941 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:40:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 29689 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2002 06:40:31 -0000 Received: from 0-1pool108-11.nas13.indianapolis1.in.us.da.qwest.net (HELO computer) (65.128.108.11) by smtp03.wlv.untd.com with SMTP; 28 Oct 2002 06:40:31 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c27e2f$6cc1d440$0b6c8041@computer> From: "bogris01" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DA34CE8.9040708@swbell.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021008150614.00a57ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20021008154804.00a50ac0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20021009005305.GE27429@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: Finally! Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:09:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Contest! > > I found a dollar in the hallway today. What should I do with it? > > Of COURSE I am trying to graph the soul of every shit-ass on the > service ... but I also want to spend the dollar, know'msain? Tushar, I know I am too late to participate in the contest, but I have a similar story to help you graph shitassdom. Many moons ago, I found a $20 bill in an aisle of my local SuperAmerica store. My first reaction was to look for the surveillance cameras, if any, before I scooped it up. I took it home, feeling rather shitty, and asked my daddy, a retired Baptist minister, if I should have turned it in to the cashier. 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Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 00:41:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S6fwkq027887 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 00:41:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F8906@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 1:40:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2973556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:40:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:j75bXiqLmo7OHggdHBsFOAdJJ6QmLHVX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S6UsU22408 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:30:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1CE30068 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9CF767C15; Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:30:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: <3222182146.20021027231646@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 27, 2002 11:16:46 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:30:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028063053.9CF767C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/27/2002, 9:28 PM, Karen Kay wrote: > KK> Indeed. ObDan: I went and bought roses on sale today instead of doing > KK> anything productive. > > A bouquet, or bushes, or what? Bushes. All I remember at this moment is the colors: two white (one yellow-white, one lavender-white), one red (for Faye, the woman who built this house and whose roses I inadvertently killed last year), and one yellow-brightening-to-coral. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 03:35:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S9ZMkq002252 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 03:35:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F8D9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 4:34:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2978872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:34:16 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S9YFU02947 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:34:15 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GNDF>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:35:54 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GNDD; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:35:51 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028103317.0308f008@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:34:02 +0100 Subject: Re: perhaps interesting to some In-Reply-To: <3DB96ECB.7253.C28A4E2@localhost> References: <3DB96DE7.28121.C252BE9@localhost> <20021025201244.GC3741@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:18 25.10.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot: >http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php I am amazed that there are 206 OREs there. That is two and a galf time as many as there are in Norway. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 03:37:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S9bhkq002261 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 03:37:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409C3BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 4:36:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2978929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:36:37 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S9abU03120 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:36:37 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GND4>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:38:16 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GNDT; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:38:11 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028103610.030b79f0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:36:22 +0100 Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:38 25.10.2002 -0400 skrev Marie Ascher: >>From: Karen Kay >>Nope. "If I leave a dinner party, and the bottle of wine I brought >>with me is still half full, would I be guilty of the open container >>law by taking this bottle of wine home in my car? >> >>Unless the bottle of wine is in the glove compartment or the trunk, >>you are guilty of breaking the law. Any container that is or has been >>opened and contains alcohol cannot be in the passenger area of a car." > >Haven't we been through this before? > >If you leave a dinner party and the bottle of wine you brought with you is >still half full, and you take it, you are a LOSER!!! Or even tacky. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 03:47:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S9lFkq002320 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 03:47:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409C3EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 4:46:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2979095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:46:09 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S9k8U03712 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:46:09 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GN1Q>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:47:48 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GN1P; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:47:44 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028104426.030adeb0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:45:55 +0100 Subject: Re: travel plans In-Reply-To: <3DB9C61B.3474F0F2@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021024215811.00a3b1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.1.6.0.20021025151904.03378e98@victoria.nb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:30 25.10.2002 -0500 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Espen Ore wrote: > >> Georgia? (USA) > >When/where? (I'm guessing Atlanta or possibly Athens for the where.) Good guesses! University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia May 29 - June 2, 2003 But I don't know yet if I will go there - the NL is short on money and I don't know if I have the time to write an abstract for a paper presentation. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 03:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9S9u9kq002946 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 03:56:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F8E0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 4:55:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2979237 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:55:03 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9S9t3U04180 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 04:55:03 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GNFT>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:56:42 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GNFS; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:56:39 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028105437.03041438@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:54:50 +0100 Subject: Re: up and out In-Reply-To: <3DB9E1D6.1060007@swbell.net> References: <20021025214718.1A3B27C15@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:29 25.10.2002 -0500 skrev Rita Chapman: >Karen Kay wrote: > >>Rita Chapman said: >> >>>Most of us were here before you, baby. >> >>Before Virupaksha? > > >Huh? Mahalingam. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 06:11:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SCBskq003624 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:11:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F91C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 7:10:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:10:46 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SCAkU02189 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:10:46 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4O00KLKXTYFJ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:10:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:12:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Meet the new teacher night To: words-l Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBD2996.20208@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have parent-teacher conferences tonight and Wed. night, so I'll be at school until about 9:30pm tonight. Yuck. I'm also told I'll be busy at the conferences since a) I have freshmen and b) WG parents just love to check out new staff. The school is going to feed me a sandwich for dinner and I have to be dressed up. Can't wait until this one is over. I hope none of the parents of kids I really don't like show up. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 06:14:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SCEtkq003633 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:14:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F91DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 7:13:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:13:45 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SCDjU02356 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:13:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.179]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028121326.IHNJ22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:13:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD29F0.289CB06C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:13:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <3DBCAEF9.7090608@swbell.net> <3DBCB244.35CF483A@maynor.net> <3DBCB3DA.3090600@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't know why white > southerners are associated with mayonnaise and white bread. > You should tell me. How can I tell you when I'm not aware of it? This discussion is the first time I've ever heard such a thing. Re race, I would bet you a bundle that you've got it backwards -- that whites in the South are far less inclined to eat white bread than blacks. > And if you gagging at the idea of mayonnaise on lettuce is > evidence of southern eating habits, then my gagging at the > thought of a tuna sandwich is surely evidence of Yankee > eating habits. You're conflating two subthreads here. My gagging isn't evidence of anything except my personal dislike of something. I also dislike turnip greens, which are said to be a Southern thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 06:18:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SCI3kq003662 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:18:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F91F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 7:16:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:16:56 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SCGuU02725 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:16:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.179]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028121637.IKYY22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:16:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:16:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >I am moving closer by the second to vegetarianism. > > We've been hearing you say this for at least ten years now. > Go ahead and do it already. Enough thinking. I don't always feel that way. Sometimes I don't think about it one way or another. There are, of course, many days when I guess you could say I am a vegetarian since there are many days when I don't consume dead animals of any kind. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 06:19:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SCJtkq003667 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:19:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F9207@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 7:18:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:18:48 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SCIlU02832 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:18:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.179]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028121828.IMIJ22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:18:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD2B21.685B9BE8@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:18:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <104.1e3e0bc0.2aee16fe@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > I can't imagine a sandwich I'd happily eat for lunch every day. > >> > > One semester at Akron U. I got a Quarter Pounder value meal > every day. I ate egg-salad sandwiches almost every day in Japan. Sometimes I'd have half and half -- two smaller sandwiches -- one egg salad the other tunafish. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 06:22:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SCMJkq003675 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:22:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F921E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 7:21:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2983444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:21:12 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SCLCU03517 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:21:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.179]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028122053.INXA22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:20:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD2BB1.3A5B9F37@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:21:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: travel plans References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021024215811.00a3b1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.1.6.0.20021025151904.03378e98@victoria.nb.no> <5.1.1.6.0.20021028104426.030adeb0@victoria.nb.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > Good guesses! University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia > May 29 - June 2, 2003 You can fondle the server that Words-L runs on! And then you need to come visit Spencer and me. It's about a five-hour drive from here to Atlanta, which makes it maybe six and a half or so to between here and Athens. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 06:54:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SCshkq003824 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:54:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F9374@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 7:53:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2984698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:53:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SCraU06931 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:53:36 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-3.panax.com [65.114.190.3]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SCrYt07183 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:53:35 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028075150.009f02e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:53:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: perhaps interesting to some In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028103317.0308f008@victoria.nb.no> References: <3DB96ECB.7253.C28A4E2@localhost> <3DB96DE7.28121.C252BE9@localhost> <20021025201244.GC3741@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >16:18 25.10.2002 -0400 skrev Paul R. Barfoot: > >http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php > >I am amazed that there are 206 OREs there. That is two and a galf time as >many as there are in Norway. --Espen There is no Voigtlander and no Dreps (my maiden name). There are 44 Hertels, my mother's maiden name. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:20:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDKMkq003933 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:20:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9536@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:19:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2985812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:19:14 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDJDU09887 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:19:13 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GN06>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:20:51 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GN05; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:20:46 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028141846.03056068@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:18:55 +0100 Subject: Re: Hell Day In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021026215108.00a5ee60@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <20021026212319.6DF467C1E@yellow.rahul.net> <20021026212319.6DF467C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:51 26.10.2002 -0700 skrev Betty: >Poor baby. Really. Very much! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:22:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDMRkq003940 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:22:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9564@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:21:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2985938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:21:20 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f97.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDLKU10159 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:21:20 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:21:14 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:21:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Family Names Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:21:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 13:21:14.0929 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4358210:01C27E84] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rita Chapman >Marie Ascher wrote: > >>Here's my ancestral list: > >>Curran > > That's my paternal grandmother's name. It's my maternal grandmother's name. This is no distant name to me -- until I got married my legal name was Marie Curran Tomlinson. Hm. Cuz. However, I don't go back far with line this at all. My grandmother never knew her grandparents, and I've found it near impossible to follow through any other searches. Great grandparents were John Curran and Mary Thomas of Philadelphia. (Names like "Mary Thomas" don't help). Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:40:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDeokq004025 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:40:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F96E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:39:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2986899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:39:42 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.43]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDdgU12562 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:39:42 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:39:36 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:39:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:39:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 13:39:36.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[75112DA0:01C27E87] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >Natalie Maynor said: > > But did those New Englanders allow mayonnaise as an ingredient in the > > tunafish salad that constituted their sandwiches? > >I can't imagine not. Of course they put mayo in their tuna/chicken/seafood salads. Usually. Otherwise, some other sort of binder/dressing. Natalie, it's a good thing you never volunteered to bring the devilled eggs. > > > I must add, > > however, that I've never heard of a fried-chicken sandwich. > >I've seen them on menus here. Wendy's sells them. Actually, I haven't had a Wendy's hamburger for about 15 years, but I have had their chicken sandwiches. Pretty good. > >Tonight Ligniere and I had bubble tea for the first time. What is it? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:50:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDojkq004075 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:50:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409CFA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:49:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987596 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:49:17 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDnGU14362 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:49:16 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A0597F0268; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:49:13 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:50:59 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <521104492506.20021028065059@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> References: <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 5:16 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> There are, of course, many days when I guess you could say NM> I am a vegetarian since there are many days when I don't consume dead NM> animals of any kind. I thought one was either a vegetarian (of whichever variety one chooses) or one wasn't. Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:55:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDt6kq004089 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:55:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9842@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:53:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:53:59 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDrvU15135 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:53:57 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A172930268; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:53:54 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:55:40 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <561104773370.20021028065540@gailndan.com> To: Words list Subject: Debt Reduction Technology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just got a spam for the above named product/service, "the world's most advanced Debt Reduction Technology". No, didn't click it up. But what could the "technology" be? A Bushmaster .223? A Glock? A .357 Magnum? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:56:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDu0kq004094 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:56:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F9859@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:54:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:54:53 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDsqU15397 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:54:53 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-211.panax.com [63.163.41.211]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDspt18182 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:54:52 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:54:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <521104492506.20021028065059@gailndan.com> References: <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? Yes. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:56:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDuukq004098 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:56:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F986C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:55:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:55:48 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDtlU15517 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:55:47 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:55:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD4246.8986389E@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:57:26 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence References: <3DB9F010.2F0785EC@valstar.net> <1248284993.20021027192509@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > So that's why the snipers did their thing? It is Dyke's fault? > Or Bush's fault? There was no intimation of blame or fault in my post. You have a strange way of reading things. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:57:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDvHkq004101 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:57:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F9875@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:56:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:56:09 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDu9U15554 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:56:09 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.14e.16895776 (16335) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14e.16895776.2aee9beb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:55:55 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 6:19:07 AM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I ate egg-salad sandwiches almost every day in Japan. Sometimes I'd have half and half -- two smaller sandwiches -- one egg salad the other tunafish. >> I could go for that. I love egg salad and tuna salad. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:57:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDvskq004106 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:57:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D087@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:56:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:56:46 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDukU15601 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:56:46 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:56:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD427E.10A2B415@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:58:22 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence References: <20021028022757.2AE877C18@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Ligniere has developed a conspiracy theory about Wellstone's plane > going down... He is not the first. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 07:58:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SDwxkq004115 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:58:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F9894@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 8:57:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:57:52 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f163.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDvpU15723 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:57:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:57:46 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:57:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:57:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 13:57:46.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE600480:01C27E89] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Janet Hardy >I had both when growing up. Chicken salad was a special treat -- my >mother makes the best I've ever tasted, with large hand-chopped >chunks of dill pickle and just a little mayonnaise to hold the whole >thing together. A little mustard, too, I think. I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with celery, onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. Served on rye bread preferably. Chicken salad is more rare, generally whenever I make a big batch of chicken stock for soup using the whole bird. I think I do it very well, emulating a favorite deli in the city: chopped breast, onion, celery, fresh dill, mayo, and a splash of apple cider vinegar, salt and pepper. Topped with a fresh tomato slice if possible. Also best on rye bread. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:01:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE1Dkq004145 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:01:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F98D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:00:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:00:05 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE05U16060 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:00:05 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:00:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD4349.A3FE1032@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021028025632.3B7257C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > Me, too, John. Except the mayo was blended with ketchup. > > And pickles? The makings of Thousand Island dressing, but not quite all of them. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:02:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE2ekq004157 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:02:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F98F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:01:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Mds+IG0z1LkOErGNugJ957PP3BY/+Q5F@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDpXU14652 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:51:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60C72FE82 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8E1707C23; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:51:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Oct 28, 2002 8:39:36 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:51:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028135132.8E1707C23@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > Otherwise, some other sort of binder/dressing. Natalie, it's a good thing > you never volunteered to bring the devilled eggs. Yep. > >Tonight Ligniere and I had bubble tea for the first time. > > What is it? I forgot I had mentioned this, and I was wondering how far it had spread. I think that I heard of this in the BA, too. It's tea with 'bubbles' of pearl tapioca in it--it's Taiwanese. There are several places here that have it, the one we went to last night is in a mostly-Asian shopping center. I had cold passionfruit green tea; I was dubious, but it was very good; I'd have it again, without the pearls. The pearls are like little jelly globules. It's an entertaining surprise the first five times, but I left most of mine. Ligniere, who always finishes everything because of the starving masses, ate all of his but he made faces the whole time. The clientele was exclusively Asian, except for us. They did have a help-wanted sign, but we bet my chances of getting hired were small because I'm too old (it's a young, hip crowd) and too white. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:02:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE2mkq004161 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:02:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F98F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:01:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE1eU16268 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD43A9.3D6EC1D1@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > but I will need to have my vehicle after the funeral, so I don't > know if that will work ... This is when you ask for help from one of your many friends in the Program, school, horse-land, church, et al. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:03:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE3Okq004166 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:03:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F9901@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:02:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:02:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:39ajAT5SuAqRJqo6kJSaRB0gJvZHhRU9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDqHU14768 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:52:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3882FE82 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A06FA7C21; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:52:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <521104492506.20021028065059@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 6:50:59 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:52:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028135216.A06FA7C21@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/28/2002, 5:16 AM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > NM> There are, of course, many days when I guess you could say > NM> I am a vegetarian since there are many days when I don't consume dead > NM> animals of any kind. > > I thought one was either a vegetarian (of whichever variety one > chooses) or one wasn't. Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like > being sort of pregnant? No. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:04:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE4Okq004170 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:04:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D13F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:03:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:17 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE3GU16696 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:16 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3A160382; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:13 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:04:59 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1761105332594.20021028070459@gailndan.com> To: Words list Subject: rosetta project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU www.rosettaproject.org Anyone up on this one? Is Kevin Kelly a dreamer, a nut, a seer, or something else? See www.kkk.org if necessary. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:04:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE4pkq004177 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F991E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:43 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE3hU16781 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:43 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD4423.E4ABEECD@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:05:23 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021028032131.199DF7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > What were the lumps in 1000 Island dressing? chopped black olives and sometimes pickle. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:05:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE5Zkq004182 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:05:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9929@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:04:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:04:28 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE4SU16877 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:04:28 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3E893028E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:04:24 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:06:07 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <821105400942.20021028070607@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <3DBD4246.8986389E@valstar.net> References: <3DB9F010.2F0785EC@valstar.net> <1248284993.20021027192509@gailndan.com> <3DBD4246.8986389E@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 6:57 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Dan Lester wrote: >> So that's why the snipers did their thing? It is Dyke's fault? >> Or Bush's fault? ac> There was no intimation of blame or fault in my post. You have a strange ac> way of reading things. And others have strange ways of writing things. At least I'm not alone out here in my delusion and insanity. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:08:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE80kq004190 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:08:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F9966@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:06:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:06:52 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f5.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE6qU17534 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:06:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:06:47 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:06:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: perhaps interesting to some Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:06:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 14:06:47.0044 (UTC) FILETIME=[40AD2C40:01C27E8B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >>I am amazed that there are 206 OREs there. That is two and a galf time as >>many as there are in Norway. --Espen > >There is no Voigtlander and no Dreps (my maiden name). There are 44 >Hertels, my mother's maiden name. There are over 22,000 Tomlinsons. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:08:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE8pkq004201 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:08:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F9980@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:07:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:euPQKb0/dQGqzxNSQaqVC1Z6Z1YE6khj@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDveU15711 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:57:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E8F2FF35 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 921A67C25; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:57:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 28, 2002 8:54:48 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:57:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028135739.921A67C25@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? > > Yes. No. There are lots of types of vegetarians, such as vegans and ovo-lacto. I don't see how that could apply to pregnancy. Their vegetarianism is quite real no matter how they limit it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:09:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SE9skq004206 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:09:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F999B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:08:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BGzB4EsafpYElMnf0sK2CF3YETLk+Zcq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SDwjU15826 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:58:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435712FF35 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1A1197C25; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:58:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <14e.16895776.2aee9beb@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Oct 28, 2002 8:55:55 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 05:58:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028135845.1A1197C25@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > In a message dated 10/28/2002 6:19:07 AM Central Standard Time, > natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > > << > I ate egg-salad sandwiches almost every day in Japan. Sometimes I'd > have half and half -- two smaller sandwiches -- one egg salad the other > tunafish. > > >> > > I could go for that. I love egg salad and tuna salad. I can't imagine going to Japan and eating egg salad every day when there's so much else to eat! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:10:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEAYkq004211 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F99AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:09:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:09:27 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE9RU18060 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:09:27 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A5135B0258; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:09:23 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:11:09 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <761105702766.20021028071109@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028135132.8E1707C23@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028135132.8E1707C23@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 6:51 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> It's an KK> entertaining surprise the first five times, but I left most of KK> mine. Ligniere, who always finishes everything because of the starving KK> masses, ate all of his but he made faces the whole time. Ever since I was a kid being told to clean my plate cuz they were starving in , I've wondered how my eating up all the damn eggplant helped anybody in some other impoverished country. But I was a kid then, not an adult, and wonder even more how adults can buy into that. T'would seem much more useful to do what some churches and other groups sponsor, a day of fasting with you donating the money you didn't spend to a food bank, overseas food charity, or whatever. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:11:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEBDkq004215 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:11:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F99C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:10:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:10:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3gCSZ3SITFCei77WvuTRKwWYwBSOz6Ys@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE06U16065 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:00:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D662FF35 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6F80A7C25; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:00:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <3DBD427E.10A2B415@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 28, 2002 8:58:22 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:00:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028140005.6F80A7C25@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Ligniere has developed a conspiracy theory about Wellstone's plane > > going down... > > He is not the first. He was my first--so to speak. I've been hearing a lot about this since then, though. This is not at all like him. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:11:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEBjkq004218 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:11:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F99DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:10:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:10:37 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEAbU18278 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:10:37 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A5586D01FE; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:10:32 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:12:18 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <371105771114.20021028071218@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028135739.921A67C25@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028135739.921A67C25@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 6:57 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? >> >> Yes. KK> No. There are lots of types of vegetarians, such as vegans and KK> ovo-lacto. I don't see how that could apply to pregnancy. Their KK> vegetarianism is quite real no matter how they limit it. I know there are many types. I think I indicated that in the post. But whatever type you are. Spose you're a vegan and then one day eat a hamburger. Are you still a vegan? I don't think so. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:12:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SECwkq004226 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:12:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D28B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:11:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:11:50 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:FJCmAL3onjPXQcq69EMDQJGZzGbAodjy@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SE1oU16290 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:01:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5D42FF37 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 493BC7C1B; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:01:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Oct 28, 2002 8:57:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:01:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028140149.493BC7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with celery, > onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. Served on rye > bread preferably. Is the oregano an East Coast thing? A sandwich shop in New Haven used to make the most wonderful tuna with oregano; I haven't thought of that in years. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:15:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEFfkq004262 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:15:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F9A29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:14:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989672 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:14:33 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEEXU19176 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:14:33 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:14:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD46AC.50D41BB3@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:16:12 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wellstone's plane down References: <3DB98047.585874DC@valstar.net> <3DB9DA91.E4F3D0F0@maynor.net> <3DB9DD60.8010701@swbell.net> <3DB9EA4B.EDA2B3CE@valstar.net> <3DB9EB03.18455DE0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9EC1F.1030100@swbell.net> <3DB9EEFF.11A57F9C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9F15C.FE6F2280@valstar.net> <3DB9F814.CB489B25@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBA95FB.B34D8C43@valstar.net> <12617451884.20021027215756@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > Understand perfectly why you may want to keep more info on > purchases....but to coin a phrase, ya takes your money and makes your > choice. Which is more important to you? Libraries have made theirs, > even though excactly the same possibilities pertain to library > patrons. My choice is to continue doing business in my usual way. If they come after me, cf. the Fritchie scenario. I have little to lose anymore. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:16:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEG6kq004267 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:16:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D2F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:14:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:14:59 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f23.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEEwU19209 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:14:58 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:14:53 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:14:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:14:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 14:14:53.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[628BB740:01C27E8C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >Is the oregano an East Coast thing? A sandwich shop in New Haven used >to make the most wonderful tuna with oregano; I haven't thought of >that in years. Not that I know of. It's my own personal thing. Actually, I guess maybe it comes from the fact that I used to tuna hoagies -- which generally come sprinkled with oregano. So I like oregano in tuna. Just a touch. I think I give more attention than most people do to tuna salad. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:18:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEIikq004278 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:18:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D338@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:17:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:17:37 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEHaU19602 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:17:36 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:17:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD475E.DA7E70A2@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:19:10 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: [Fwd: [b] Bookstore owner speaks out on erosion of privacies] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookstores & Patriot Act--more A freedom sold is very difficult to buy back again Bookstore owner speaks out on erosion of privacies WorkingForChange 10.25.02 Last month, on September 11, Leif Enger, author of Peace Like a River, came to read at Eagle Harbor Book Co. I spoke with Leif a few days before and we both agreed that we could add little to the cacophony of voices remembering the events of one year prior. However, I told Leif I wanted to begin with a few words, though I didn't yet know what they would be. On the morning of the reading, I didn't go to work, but went, instead, to my boat. I meant to stay for a few minutes, but I ended up spending the entire day thinking and writing. I realized there was something very, very important being ignored. Something that had to be said, something that, on September 11, 2002 would be difficult to say. This is what I said to the audience that night: Hi. Thank you all for coming. I'm Morley Horder and my family and I own Eagle Harbor Book Co. I'd like to begin this evening with a moment of silence... Freedom. Freedom of speech, of association, of religion. Freedom to think what we want, to write and to publish what we want, to believe what we want, to say what we want, and, yes, to read what we want, in complete privacy. Freedom is a cornerstone of our America. Today, in a rapidly changing world, where fear has arrived in America, we face choices that may fundamentally change our country forever: choices to limit personal freedom in the name of public security. This is not the first time we have made such choices. Twenty years ago, for example, we embraced airport security checks with little debate. Recently, we have been told we may not board our local ferries if we are not willing to submit to random searches. Next, we may choose to give up the right to cross our bridges or to enter our buildings without being checked. These decisionsto limit our personal freedoms for the security of the wholewill be loudly debated, as they should be. We will clearly understand the price we are paying in the loss of our personal freedom and feel the security we gain in return. What concerns me, however, are recent decisions made without significant public debate, the unintended effects of which are not so easily measurable. The purposeincreased public securityhas been hailed, while the unintended resulterosion of freedomhas been largely ignored, or, perhaps, considered worth the cost. An example is the Patriot Act, passed in October 2001. The Patriot Act was created by good people for a good purpose: increased security for all Americans. Under the Patriot Act, the FBI can obtain court orders to monitor anyone it thinks may have information relevant to an anti-terrorism investigation, including American citizens who are not themselves suspected of criminal activity. Of particular concern to me is Section 215 of the Patriot Act. Normally, when a bookseller receives a subpoena for customer information, he or she has the opportunity to ask the court to quash the order on First Amendment grounds. In several cases, booksellers have successfully resisted subpoenas. Under Section 215, however, booksellers may not have this chance. Depending on the wording of the order, the bookseller may be required to immediately turn over the records that are being sought. In addition, there is a gag provision preventing booksellers from alerting anyone that they have received such an order, making it nearly impossible to determine whether this new power is being used... or abused. The Justice Department has refused to release any information about subpoenas issueddespite repeated requests by the House Judiciary Committee. We know, anecdotally, that subpoenas have been issued. But we do not know how many times, when, or for what reason. Eagle Harbor Book Co. has never tracked customer purchases. We do, however, keep certain records required by law. And those records, unless the transaction is in cash, could be used to connect a customer with his or her purchases. Perhaps this law makes us more secure. That is very difficult to quantify. But our right to read what we want, and, by extension, to think, to believe, and to say what we want, in complete privacy has clearly been eroded. These are fundamental rights that define America, and they are being soldtradedfor the promise of security. Such small, often unnoticed choices to limit our personal freedomsusually made with good intentionincrementally, inevitably, change our nation. Such decisions may be necessary in this changed world, but I urge you all to consider very carefully before giving your support. A freedom that has been sold is very, very difficult to buy back again. I don't want my children or grandchildren to look back 50 years from now and say, "This used to be a free countrywhat happened?" We will face many more such important decisions in the coming months and years. If this or other losses of personal freedom and privacy concern you, please, speak with your congressperson. Talk with your neighbors, your children. Write your newspaper. Contact your local independent bookstore. Please, don't let decisions with such far-reaching results be made without your input. Thank you. ------------------ A postscript: Leif Enger attracted nearly 100 people that night. He spoke eloquently and it was a very special evening for all. My thanks to the American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression (ABFFE.ORG) for information about the USA Patriot Act. ------------------- Morley Horder owns Eagle Harbor Book Co., in Bainbridge Island, Washington. This article originally appeared in "Footnotes," the newsletter of the Pacific Northwest Booksellers Association. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:22:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEM8kq004296 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:22:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9AD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:21:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:21:00 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEKxU20274 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:21:00 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4P3RC00.UQX for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:18:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBD4852.8005F09F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:23:14 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > In my formative years that was known as "salad". Make of that what you > > will. > > Me, too, John. Except the mayo was blended with ketchup. Bob's (Big Boy) Secret Sauce! JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:23:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEN4kq004303 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:23:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F9AED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:21:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:21:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:orD1/ex5gmYQqTteGs3WhmSXHTckBQkJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEBuU18617 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:11:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6BD52FE8D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 87E0E7C31; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:11:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: rosetta project In-Reply-To: <1761105332594.20021028070459@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 7: 4:59 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:11:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028141155.87E0E7C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > www.rosettaproject.org Anyone up on this one? I thought it sounded familiar--it's a Long Now project, which I know of because of Pete. It's definitely a serious venture--I know people on the advisory committee. > Is Kevin Kelly a dreamer, a nut, a seer, or something else? See > www.kkk.org if necessary. This gives me a web hosting site. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:23:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SENTkq004306 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:23:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9B03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:22:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:22:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:DP9+2WjfnpV+bYbl+jJRpctWeBox+6LE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SECLU18754 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:12:21 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C787F2FE8D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:12:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 880B47C1E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:12:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBD4423.E4ABEECD@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 28, 2002 9: 5:23 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:12:20 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028141220.880B47C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > What were the lumps in 1000 Island dressing? > > chopped black olives and sometimes pickle. I'm pretty sure I've never had this with black olives. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:28:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SES3kq004324 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:28:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9BA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:26:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:26:55 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEQtU21320 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:26:55 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A9294B0286; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:26:49 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:28:35 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1521106748950.20021028072835@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: rosetta project In-Reply-To: <20021028141155.87E0E7C31@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028141155.87E0E7C31@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:11 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> Is Kevin Kelly a dreamer, a nut, a seer, or something else? See >> www.kkk.org if necessary. KK> This gives me a web hosting site. ooooops. www.kk.org KK> Karen -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:30:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEU5kq004354 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:30:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F9C03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:28:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:28:57 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SESuU21731 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:28:57 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3G367>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:30:36 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3G366; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:30:34 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028152827.030a0e18@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:28:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Elwood's Day! In-Reply-To: <3DBC37FA.A5147FD7@maynor.net> References: <3DBB4B12.2B10B25F@pop.mindspring.com> <4.2.2.20021027062903.00a339f0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 13:01 27.10.2002 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >HB,E!! And from me! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:33:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEX7kq004363 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:33:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D52E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:31:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:31:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEVwU22196 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:31:58 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-10.panax.com [65.114.190.10]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEVvt25135 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:31:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028093115.00b3f728@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:31:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028141220.880B47C1E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DBD4423.E4ABEECD@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:12 AM 10/28/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >alyce cresap said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > > > > What were the lumps in 1000 Island dressing? > > > > chopped black olives and sometimes pickle. > >I'm pretty sure I've never had this with black olives. Some of the lumps might be capers. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:34:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEYFkq004368 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:34:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9CA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:33:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:33:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:a1gfZom7gM5zwPaNlniGdl2ceTtU/YZm@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEN8U20787 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:23:08 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA112FF62 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C0E0E7C24; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:23:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <761105702766.20021028071109@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 7:11: 9 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:23:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028142307.C0E0E7C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/28/2002, 6:51 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> It's an > KK> entertaining surprise the first five times, but I left most of > KK> mine. Ligniere, who always finishes everything because of the starving > KK> masses, ate all of his but he made faces the whole time. > > Ever since I was a kid being told to clean my plate cuz they > were starving in , I've wondered > how my eating up all the damn eggplant helped anybody in some > other impoverished country. I don't think that this is why Ligniere does this. (Though he'd have to fight me for the eggplant--it's one of my favorite foods.) > But I was a kid then, not an > adult, and wonder even more how adults can buy into that. > T'would seem much more useful to do what some churches and > other groups sponsor, a day of fasting with you donating the > money you didn't spend to a food bank, overseas food charity, > or whatever. I don't think people only do things that are useful. And I do think that he does this for himself, not under any delusion that he is helping anyone else. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:35:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEZakq004380 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:35:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D56F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:34:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:34:25 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YwzgLrH7vb2WdXlJKgzHFi6wGzsAUMjN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEOPU20991 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:24:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA042FEC6 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 982ED7C1A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:24:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <371105771114.20021028071218@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 7:12:18 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:24:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028142424.982ED7C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/28/2002, 6:57 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? > >> > >> Yes. > > KK> No. There are lots of types of vegetarians, such as vegans and > KK> ovo-lacto. I don't see how that could apply to pregnancy. Their > KK> vegetarianism is quite real no matter how they limit it. > > I know there are many types. I think I indicated that in the > post. But whatever type you are. Spose you're a vegan and then > one day eat a hamburger. Are you still a vegan? I don't think > so. I don't think it's up to you to judge what I do. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:36:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEaYkq004386 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:36:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9CDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:35:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:35:26 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Q5ZatkUoCLBDssqLNpPiQJ1aKkOkBBIq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEPPU21152 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:25:26 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6209B2FF37 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 368467C30; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:25:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Oct 28, 2002 9:14:53 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:25:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028142525.368467C30@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > >Is the oregano an East Coast thing? A sandwich shop in New Haven used > >to make the most wonderful tuna with oregano; I haven't thought of > >that in years. > > Not that I know of. It's my own personal thing. Actually, I guess maybe it > comes from the fact that I used to tuna hoagies -- which generally > come sprinkled with oregano. So I like oregano in tuna. Just a touch. I > think I give more attention than most people do to tuna salad. Yes, and you've inspired me. There are days I love regular tuna and days I wonder why I made so much; this should help me on those days. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:47:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SElSkq004455 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:47:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D6B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:46:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:46:20 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEkKU24788 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:46:20 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id ADB9330278; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:46:17 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:48:00 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <771107913204.20021028074800@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028142424.982ED7C1A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028142424.982ED7C1A@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:24 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dan Lester said: >> I know there are many types. I think I indicated that in the >> post. But whatever type you are. Spose you're a vegan and then >> one day eat a hamburger. Are you still a vegan? I don't think >> so. KK> I don't think it's up to you to judge what I do. KK, if you can't tell a generic "you" from a personal "you", you might wish to consider some additional study. In addition, it said to suppose that. I know you're not a vegan, so WTF is your problem besides it being too early in the morning? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:49:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEnfkq004462 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:49:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D6D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:48:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:48:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEmXU25092 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:48:33 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-3.panax.com [63.163.41.3]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEmWt28480 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:48:32 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094657.00a00710@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:48:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <3DBD4246.8986389E@valstar.net> References: <3DB9F010.2F0785EC@valstar.net> <1248284993.20021027192509@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Dan Lester wrote: > > So that's why the snipers did their thing? It is Dyke's fault? > > Or Bush's fault? > >There was no intimation of blame or fault in my post. You have a strange >way of reading things. --alyce According to a local newspaper, Dyke addressed his workers in Maine and told them they had nothing to be ashamed of. The guns they make were on both sides of the fight. Many law enforcement officers use that brand. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:51:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEpFkq004484 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:51:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D70B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:50:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:50:05 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEo1U25310 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:50:02 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GPAC>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:51:41 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GPAB; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:51:37 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021028154922.03058bc8@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:49:48 +0100 Subject: Re: travel plans In-Reply-To: <3DBD2BB1.3A5B9F37@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021024215811.00a3b1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.1.6.0.20021025151904.03378e98@victoria.nb.no> <5.1.1.6.0.20021028104426.030adeb0@victoria.nb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 06:21 28.10.2002 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Espen Ore wrote: > >> Good guesses! University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia >> May 29 - June 2, 2003 > >You can fondle the server that Words-L runs on! And then you need to >come visit Spencer and me. It's about a five-hour drive from here to >Atlanta, which makes it maybe six and a half or so to between here and >Athens. I still have 18 days to produce an abstract. Hmmm. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:51:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEpgkq004488 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:51:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003F9E79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:50:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:50:34 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEoXU25407 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:50:33 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEB6C80242; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:50:30 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:52:16 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1581108169433.20021028075216@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094657.00a00710@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DB9F010.2F0785EC@valstar.net> <1248284993.20021027192509@gailndan.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094657.00a00710@pop3.norton.antivirus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:48 AM, bonniev wrote: b> According to a local newspaper, Dyke addressed his workers in Maine and b> told them they had nothing to be ashamed of. The guns they make were on b> both sides of the fight. Many law enforcement officers use that brand. Good point. Also interesting that the dealer who had the gun in stock has no record of it either being sold or of being stolen. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:52:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEqAkq004491 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:52:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003F9E8A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:51:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:51:02 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEp2U25473 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:51:02 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-3.panax.com [63.163.41.3]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEp1t29104 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:51:01 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:50:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028135739.921A67C25@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev said: > > > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? > > > > Yes. > >No. There are lots of types of vegetarians, such as vegans and >ovo-lacto. I don't see how that could apply to pregnancy. Their >vegetarianism is quite real no matter how they limit it. >Karen That's hardly the point Dan was making. I know of no vegetarians who eat meat on some days of the week. There are also a number of kinds of pregnancy, ectopic, unwanted, artificially inseminated, etc. The babies are quite real to the mothers no matter what the classification. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:53:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SErVkq004498 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:53:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409D737@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:52:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:52:23 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEqNU25643 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:52:23 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-3.panax.com [63.163.41.3]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEqMt29367 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:52:22 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095131.00a044d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:52:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028135845.1A1197C25@yellow.rahul.net> References: <14e.16895776.2aee9beb@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I can't imagine going to Japan and eating egg salad every day when >there's so much else to eat! >Karen Even I, who hates strange food, agree with this. It makes me wonder about all of Natalie's travels and how much she "took in". --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:57:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEvskq004591 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:57:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F9F55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:56:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:56:46 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEukU26254 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:56:46 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-3.panax.com [63.163.41.3]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEuit30177 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:56:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:56:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028142307.C0E0E7C24@yellow.rahul.net> References: <761105702766.20021028071109@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > T'would seem much more useful to do what some churches and > > other groups sponsor, a day of fasting with you donating the > > money you didn't spend to a food bank, overseas food charity, > > or whatever. > >I don't think people only do things that are useful. And I do think >that he does this for himself, not under any delusion that he is >helping anyone else. --Karen I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the starving children around the world. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 08:58:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SEwhkq004596 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:58:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003F9F68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 9:57:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992827 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:57:35 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEvYU26439 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:57:34 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14062 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 09:57:33 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 09:57:08 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:56:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: creme brulee Message-ID: <3DBD09EB.19583.600D57@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027093428.00a08cc0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Bake in 300 degree oven for an hour. If they still seem rather liquidy > after an hour (just giggle the pan) bake for another 15 minutes. AHA! So, that's the secret! BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:03:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SF3Ukq004649 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA047@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:02:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:02:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vSS3MwmiZ+17odD2q6LYRVwroEEbHwjK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SEqMU25637 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:52:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED9A2FDCD for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0A907C2F; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:52:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <771107913204.20021028074800@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 7:48: 0 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:52:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028145220.B0A907C2F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/28/2002, 7:24 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> Dan Lester said: > > >> I know there are many types. I think I indicated that in the > >> post. But whatever type you are. Spose you're a vegan and then > >> one day eat a hamburger. Are you still a vegan? I don't think > >> so. > > KK> I don't think it's up to you to judge what I do. > > KK, if you can't tell a generic "you" from a personal "you", you might > wish to consider some additional study. In addition, it said to > suppose that. I know you're not a vegan, so WTF is your problem > besides it being too early in the morning? I think you're being judgmental about something that really isn't any of your business. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:04:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SF4Rkq004653 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:04:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA060@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:03:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2992526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:03:19 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jIcGH/Ap8w911DdtdcvNFUi+kR0qrovT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SErIU25793 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:53:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAE42FDC4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 19F367C2B; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:53:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <1581108169433.20021028075216@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 7:52:16 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 06:53:18 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028145318.19F367C2B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > Good point. Also interesting that the dealer who had the gun in > stock has no record of it either being sold or of being stolen. I find this horrifying rather than 'interesting'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:08:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SF8Xkq004670 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:08:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA0D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:07:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:07:25 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SF7PU29261 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:07:25 -0500 Received: from user-vcaundk.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.93.180] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186BUC-0000ZW-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:07:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021028135132.8E1707C23@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028135132.8E1707C23@yellow.rahul.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:06:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Tonight Ligniere and I had bubble tea for the first time. >> >> What is it? > >I forgot I had mentioned this, and I was wondering how far it had >spread. I think that I heard of this in the BA, too. It's tea with >'bubbles' of pearl tapioca in it--it's Taiwanese. It's *everywhere* here in the Avenues -- there are tapioca pearl drink shops on every block in the commercial districts. Sort of the Asian frozen yogurt of the new millennium, or something. It seems to be mostly a teenagers' confection -- at least, I see throngs of Asian teenagers in those places. I haven't tried it yet 'cause it looks gross. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:08:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SF8qkq004674 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:08:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA0DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:07:44 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SF7iU29359 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:07:44 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A2BC7A0262; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:07:40 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:09:26 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <151109199804.20021028080926@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028145220.B0A907C2F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028145220.B0A907C2F@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:52 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dan Lester said: >> 10/28/2002, 7:24 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> >> KK> Dan Lester said: >> >> >> I know there are many types. I think I indicated that in the >> >> post. But whatever type you are. Spose you're a vegan and then >> >> one day eat a hamburger. Are you still a vegan? I don't think >> >> so. >> >> KK> I don't think it's up to you to judge what I do. >> >> KK, if you can't tell a generic "you" from a personal "you", you might >> wish to consider some additional study. In addition, it said to >> suppose that. I know you're not a vegan, so WTF is your problem >> besides it being too early in the morning? KK> I think you're being judgmental about something that really isn't any KK> of your business. And How The Fuck is it judgmental when we're talking about the definition of a term, and when the conversation is not ABOUT you AFAIK. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:09:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SF9rkq004684 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:09:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FA105@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:08:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:08:45 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SF8hU29550 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:08:43 -0500 Received: from user-vcaundk.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.93.180] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186BVS-0002I2-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:08:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021028140149.493BC7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028140149.493BC7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:07:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Marie Ascher said: >> I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with celery, >> onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. Served on rye >> bread preferably. > >Is the oregano an East Coast thing? A sandwich shop in New Haven used >to make the most wonderful tuna with oregano; I haven't thought of >that in years. Semifreddi's Bakery, around the corner from my office, makes its tuna salad with horseradish -- it's *good*. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:18:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFI9kq004738 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:18:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA205@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:17:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:17:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f17.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFH1U30817 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:17:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:16:56 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:16:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:16:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 15:16:56.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D7259E0:01C27E95] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Janet Hardy >Semifreddi's Bakery, around the corner from my office, makes its tuna >salad with horseradish -- it's *good*. As a gefilte fish eater, I can appreciate fish and horseradish. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:19:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFJTkq004744 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:19:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA237@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:18:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:18:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fdKP3hIPnfhm8IJID6FBUExjkMsjgyK4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SF8KU29465 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:08:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD5F2FE03 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E4A467C1F; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:08:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 28, 2002 9:56:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:08:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems > from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the > starving children around the world. Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, without forcing down bad or unwanted food. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:20:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFK1kq004749 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:20:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA246@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:18:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:18:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sap2IIfJCqvU8yi1/pRJCdUFKS4g3plc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SF8rU29602 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:08:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1E72FDE4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CEB2B7C12; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:08:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: creme brulee In-Reply-To: <3DBD09EB.19583.600D57@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Oct 28, 2002 9:56:59 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:08:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028150852.CEB2B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > Bake in 300 degree oven for an hour. If they still seem rather liquidy > > after an hour (just giggle the pan) bake for another 15 minutes. > > > AHA! So, that's the secret! I wonder if the restaurant supply places have giggling pans? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:21:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFLgkq004753 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:21:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FA266@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:20:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:20:34 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bbalnZZwqbnNyg0bXUhTTLlNvoeuRaxx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFAYU29905 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:10:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244732FDE4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F09057C1A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:10:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 28, 2002 7: 6:22 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:10:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028151033.F09057C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > > > >Tonight Ligniere and I had bubble tea for the first time. > >> > >> What is it? > > > >I forgot I had mentioned this, and I was wondering how far it had > >spread. I think that I heard of this in the BA, too. It's tea with > >'bubbles' of pearl tapioca in it--it's Taiwanese. > > It's *everywhere* here in the Avenues -- there are tapioca pearl > drink shops on every block in the commercial districts. Sort of the > Asian frozen yogurt of the new millennium, or something. It seems to > be mostly a teenagers' confection -- at least, I see throngs of Asian > teenagers in those places. The people in this place were older than teenagers, but not as old as we are. Maybe in their 20's-30's. There were a number of families/moms with kids. > I haven't tried it yet 'cause it looks > gross. The concoctions are good, just leave out the pearls. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:24:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFODkq004765 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:24:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA2BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:23:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:23:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:/dgIYO5tb/bvCeRPWbrthrq7ggLsWHgK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFD4U30260 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:13:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABE12FE03 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7DE3E7C20; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:13:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <151109199804.20021028080926@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 8: 9:26 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:13:00 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028151302.7DE3E7C20@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > And How The Fuck is it judgmental when we're talking about the > definition of a term, Because people define their own terms. > and when the conversation is not ABOUT you AFAIK. FYI: it was never about me. I was a vegetarian for about 8 years, many years ago, and accomplished what I wanted by being that way then. Since then, I've been an unabashed omnivore. (But evidently not enough of a carnivore that Ligniere asked me, after knowing each other for 10 weeks or so, if I ate meat.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:25:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFPDkq004772 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:25:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FA2DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f77.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.77]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFO4U32275 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:23:59 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:23:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:23:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 15:23:59.0112 (UTC) FILETIME=[099AA880:01C27E96] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay > > I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality >stems > > from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the > > starving children around the world. > >Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, >without forcing down bad or unwanted food. I agree with this. I'm proud of myself when I leave a good portion of my french fries on the plate. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:26:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFQ0kq004779 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:26:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409DCD9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFEmU30461 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:14:48 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SFElhA020008 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:14:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:14:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028030558.6F2017C11@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> >> There are several places I could live easily, at least for a while >> >> - the one I am exploring now is Berkeley. >> > >> >California? >> >> Oh yes. > >I'm impressed that you could afford it. As I said, I am ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:28:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFSBkq004791 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:28:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FA34B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:27:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:27:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFH3U30833 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:17:03 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SFH3hA021846 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:17:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:17:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch In-Reply-To: <3DBCAC41.B3EDB331@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Are there temporary handicap decals to be had -- to be acquired without >another huge hassle? Probably, but I am not interested ... it's raining this morning, so I have gven up thoughts of going to the funeral - anyway, the only handicap spots are under the control of the Cathedral (i.e., I could use one without a decal), and there are only two and they will probably be needed by those truly handicapped - I am just inconvenienced right now. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:28:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFSikq004795 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:28:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409DD27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:27:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:27:33 -0500 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFRXU00625 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:27:33 -0500 Received: from user-vcaummi.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.210] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186Bng-0004zR-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:27:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:26:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev said: >> I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems >> from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the >> starving children around the world. > >Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, >without forcing down bad or unwanted food. Bingo. I fail to see how eating food you don't want or need is anything but a "waste." Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:29:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFTpkq004802 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:29:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA391@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:28:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:28:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFIgU31265 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:18:42 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SFIfhA023277 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:18:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:18:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Ann Borkin wrote: >- a journal entry -\ > >thanks, Bethany, this sounds like it came from you and not An Observer. Whoa! I CAN continue to learn ... thanks! (On the other hand, I also value my ability to be (or appear) objective and thorough in some situations. And I would not mind writing something for The Observer.) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:31:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFVFkq004835 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:31:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA3C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:30:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:30:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LIuyclOmLMZ9nAqbbopFsdPch2WivFIE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFK7U31509 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:20:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004A32FE7D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B97A47C1B; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:20:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 28, 2002 7: 7:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:20:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028152006.B97A47C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > >Marie Ascher said: > >> I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with celery, > >> onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. Served on rye > >> bread preferably. > > > >Is the oregano an East Coast thing? A sandwich shop in New Haven used > >to make the most wonderful tuna with oregano; I haven't thought of > >that in years. > > Semifreddi's Bakery, around the corner from my office, makes its tuna > salad with horseradish -- it's *good*. I saw horseradish plants for sale at the nursery where I bought my roses, but passed. I'm regretting it now. I love this whole fresh-herb thing. It's great to be able to walk outside and hack some leaves or part of a root off. (I have both ginger and galangal. I need some lemon grass and kaffir lime.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:33:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFXskq004844 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:33:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409DDDB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:32:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:32:45 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFWjU01683 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:32:45 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A89A15C0238; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:32:42 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:34:27 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <201110701033.20021028083427@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Sniper gun coincidence In-Reply-To: <20021028145318.19F367C2B@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028145318.19F367C2B@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:53 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dan Lester said: >> Good point. Also interesting that the dealer who had the gun in >> stock has no record of it either being sold or of being stolen. KK> I find this horrifying rather than 'interesting'. Assume that you're familiar with the use of the word "interesting" to mean a host of things. Such as "Well, Dan, how do you like the eggplant with oregano and caviar that I made for you?" And I respond "well, it is interesting". -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:35:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFZrkq004858 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:35:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FA460@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:34:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:34:44 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFYiU02078 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:34:44 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A9101070280; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:34:40 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:36:23 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <671110816619.20021028083623@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 8:08 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> bonniev said: >> I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems >> from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the >> starving children around the world. KK> Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, KK> without forcing down bad or unwanted food. Exactly. And, that is said judging ME, not YOU. I have no idea how thin or fat you are these days. I know that one of the reasons I'm fat is that I was brought up on the "clean your plate" crap, and also that there were many times we were hungry, and learned to eat damn near anything in any quantity since we weren't sure what and when we'd get again. I did draw the line at eggplant. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:37:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFbukq004864 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:37:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA49B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:36:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:36:48 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFamU02521 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:36:48 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A98C8B027E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:36:44 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:38:30 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <521110943702.20021028083830@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 8:26 AM, Janet Hardy wrote: >>bonniev said: >>> I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems >>> from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the >>> starving children around the world. >> >>Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, >>without forcing down bad or unwanted food. JH> Bingo. I fail to see how eating food you don't want or need is JH> anything but a "waste." And a "waist". -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:40:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFeLkq004886 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:40:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA4E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:12 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFdCU03071 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:12 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021028153906.UUOJ13658.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:39:06 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028064146.02c441c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:38:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: rosetta project In-Reply-To: <1761105332594.20021028070459@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester writes, >www.rosettaproject.org Anyone up on this one? Is Kevin Kelly >a dreamer, a nut, a seer, or something else? See www.kkk.org if >necessary. I respect him tremendously for _New Rules for the New Economy_; here are two blog entries related: http://www.istori.com/log/archives/00000154.html http://www.istori.com/log/archives/00000052.html I'd call him a seer. The Long Now projects have "dreamer" mixed in, although Kelly's not the only (or the main, I believe) one. A good chunk of the mission of Long Now is explicitly inspirational anyway. The Rosetta Project seems like it has more immediate practicality than, say, the Clock, not so much for the artifact as the infrastructural tasks and awarenesses that have to be accomplished to create it. Which is not to say that the artifacts from both projects aren't cool. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:40:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFeokq004890 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:40:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409DEC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:41 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFdfU03153 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9SFdeW04951 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:39:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c27e98$76abe220$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021028145318.19F367C2B@yellow.rahul.net> <201110701033.20021028083427@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Sniper gun coincidence Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:38:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > KK> Dan Lester said: > >> Good point. Also interesting that the dealer who had the gun in > >> stock has no record of it either being sold or of being stolen. I find it interesting that the blue car was bought at Sure Shot Auto. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:43:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFh8kq004907 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:43:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA54F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:42:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:42:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tSSs7Az28XiN/TSsnIrKjMp2tqYn5sZ3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFVxU01500 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:31:59 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E38F2FF01 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6453B7C32; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:31:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 28, 2002 7:26:30 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:31:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028153148.6453B7C32@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > >bonniev said: > >> I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems > >> from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the > >> starving children around the world. > > > >Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, > >without forcing down bad or unwanted food. > > Bingo. I fail to see how eating food you don't want or need is > anything but a "waste." Well, you'd have to talk to Ligniere. I know that he lived for years in 3rd world countries, and a very good friend works all over the 3rd world (at risk of life and limb), and I think that this informs his POV. He doesn't require anyone else to share it, but it does make me more cautious about what I serve him. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:44:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFiEkq004913 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:44:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FA57D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:43:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:43:06 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFX3U01728 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:33:03 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SFX2hA001287 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:33:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch In-Reply-To: <3DBD43A9.3D6EC1D1@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> but I will need to have my vehicle after the funeral, so I don't >> know if that will work ... > >This is when you ask for help from one of your many friends in the >Program, school, horse-land, church, et al. That would usually work. But - the timing is wrong. The older, retired crowd will want to stay for the lengthy reception, and tho other crowd are all at work at that hour. And whoever took me would have the same parking issue I would have. Further, many people will walk to the funeral from their downtown offices, because of the parking situation. If I were not on crutches, I would either have gone very early or parked several blocks away . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:51:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFp0kq004952 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:51:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409E08C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:49:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:49:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFdqU03185 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:52 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SFdohA007598 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028135132.8E1707C23@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >spread. I think that I heard of this in the BA, too. It's tea with >'bubbles' of pearl tapioca in it--it's Taiwanese. There are several >places here that have it, the one we went to last night is in a Tapioca is one of the few foods I truly do not like. I also do not like rice pudding - except in Greece, where they have figured out how to reduce the rice to a smooth puree so that it is not grainy. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 09:52:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SFqwkq004961 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:52:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA69C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:51:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:51:48 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFpmU06233 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:51:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:51:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD5D71.EE152D27@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:53:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBD4423.E4ABEECD@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028093115.00b3f728@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > Some of the lumps might be capers. My mother made a great 1000 Island Dressing, and she used catsup(ketchup), mayonnaise, vinegar, chopped black olives, sweet pickle. I have forgotten the amount of each, but it was fantastically good. There is, of course, an Official Recipe from the hotel that originated it. No doubt one can Google for it, but I am not so inclined at this moment. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:00:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SG06kq005005 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:00:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409E1C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:58:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:58:58 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SFwvU07866 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:58:57 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:58:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD5F1F.AB0E512F@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:00:31 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > If I were not on > crutches, I would either have gone very early or parked several blocks > away . And if I couuld breathe unfettered, I'd have no trouble going shopping or doing household tasks. Q.E.D. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:05:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SG5Hkq005029 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:05:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FA819@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999809 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:08 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SG48U09021 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:08 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD6052.9056663F@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:05:38 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > I never buy mayonnaise. What is the difference between mayonnaise and Miracle Whip? My mother used the latter. We had it on sandwiches. One side butter, the other side mayonnaise. One or the other is needed for potato salad, surely? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:10:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGATkq005052 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:10:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA8AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:09:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3000299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:09:20 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SG9KU10057 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:09:20 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-24.panax.com [63.163.41.24]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SG9Jt13685 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:09:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:09:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev said: > > I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems > > from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the > > starving children around the world. > >Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, >without forcing down bad or unwanted food. >Karen It's not like those are the only two choices. Buy less food, prepare smaller portions, order smaller restaurant meals, make soup with leftovers, etc. etc. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:12:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGCikq005058 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:12:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA8E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3000457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:36 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGBaU10425 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:36 -0500 Received: from user-vcaummi.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.210] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186CUI-0000jE-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:11:35 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021028152006.B97A47C1B@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028152006.B97A47C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:10:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Semifreddi's Bakery, around the corner from my office, makes its tuna >> salad with horseradish -- it's *good*. > >I saw horseradish plants for sale at the nursery where I bought my >roses, but passed. I'm regretting it now. I had just planted some in my old house in Sacramento when Frank & I broke up, so I never got to harvest any. However, I'm told it's extremely invasive -- the new owners are probably cursing my name. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:12:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGChkq005057 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:12:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA8E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3000453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:34 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGBYU10418 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:34 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22750 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 11:11:33 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 11:11:11 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:11:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Faces Message-ID: <3DBD1B4B.7370.A3EDC5@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027102735.02bbf460@mail.istori.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I learned a neat trick with a dollar bill (Actually, it works with any full face portrait - I learned it on a Canadian 5 portrait of Laurier). If you put a "mountin" fold down through the plane of each eye and a "valley" crease half way between them, the person appears to be grinning when looked at from slightly below and frowning when looked at from slightly above. Try it. BrP > Here's a fun toy: . > > There are twenty faces of various types; you pick the top of one and the > bottom of another to create a new face. The effect is eerie, and works > better than you'd imagine. > > Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:13:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGDNkq005064 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:13:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FA8FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:12:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3000519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:12:15 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGC5U10565 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:12:06 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4P8W800.VSG for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:09:44 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBD6250.979323A3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:14:08 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DB9E0D1.9050600@swbell.net> <3DB9F35A.2D1E03FB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9FAC9.2060507@swbell.net> <168846059.20021027193430@gailndan.com> <3DBCA464.F062518A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBCAC6D.1000709@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Sorry. Duly noted. Want some mayo? Actually, I prefer Miracle Whip. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:13:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGDmkq005068 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:13:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FA910@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:12:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:12:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SG2cU08566 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:02:38 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SG2chA022618 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:02:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:02:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch In-Reply-To: <3DBD5F1F.AB0E512F@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >> If I were not on >> crutches, I would either have gone very early or parked several blocks >> away . > >And if I couuld breathe unfettered, I'd have no trouble going shopping >or doing household tasks. Q.E.D. Context is all! You made a suggestion - a good one - I responded. Do you need a suggestion? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:15:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGFEkq005101 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:15:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409E3F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:14:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3000674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:13:58 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGDwU10910 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:13:58 -0500 Received: from user-vcaummi.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.210] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186CWb-0004Zl-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:13:57 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:12:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>bonniev said: >>> I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems >>> from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the >>> starving children around the world. >> >>Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, >>without forcing down bad or unwanted food. >>Karen > >It's not like those are the only two choices. Buy less food, prepare >smaller portions, order smaller restaurant meals, make soup with leftovers, >etc. etc. Absolutely. I'm all for ways to serve less food and to get as much mileage as possible out of whatever food one has already purchased. What doesn't make sense to me is the commitment to eat whatever is on one's plate. (Of course, if one has a dog, no food goes to waste, ever.) Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:28:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGSbkq005168 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:28:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FAB3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:27:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:27:28 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGRSE13415 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:27:28 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:27:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD65CB.6D053B4A@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:28:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern Never heard that till this moment. I heart deviled eggs. The best ones I've ever eaten were made by one of the bridge ladies and she spent her first 50 years in Detroit. My grandmother made them too, and she was from Denmark. I've never made them, but I'll surely eat them wherever I can find them. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:29:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGTSkq005180 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:29:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409E5FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:28:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:28:17 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGSFE13525 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:28:15 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A59C18102A6; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:28:12 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:29:54 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1761114027787.20021028092954@gailndan.com> To: Words list Subject: Speedy justice in South Africa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/africa/10/28/safrica.driver.reut/index.html You commit murder and you'll pay the price. Quickly. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:30:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGUlkq005209 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:30:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FAB87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:29:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:29:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OS8C3hrlwkGr3Y7Z1K7Xy/12fDwfA4au@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGJdE12180 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:19:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19722FDE4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7AFA37C28; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:19:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 28, 2002 10:39:50 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:19:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028161938.7AFA37C28@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > I also do not like > rice pudding - except in Greece, where they have figured out how to reduce > the rice to a smooth puree so that it is not grainy. There's an Indian restaurant here that serves an orgasmic rice pudding. IMHO, the difference between a good rice pudding and one I won't eat is the graininess. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:32:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGWMkq005215 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:32:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FABC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ErX5e6EUkHe9AFaqzGxl6EkmA5dUTolm@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGLDE12421 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:21:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEA32FE03 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 893AF7C12; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:21:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 28, 2002 11: 9:14 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:21:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028162112.893AF7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >bonniev said: > > > I always thought of it as an aesthetic thing. To me much of morality stems > > > from aesthetics. It is unbecoming to waste food when one thinks of the > > > starving children around the world. > > > >Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, > >without forcing down bad or unwanted food. > >Karen > > It's not like those are the only two choices. Buy less food, prepare > smaller portions, order smaller restaurant meals, make soup with leftovers, > etc. etc. Those are not always options. Sometimes you just make a mistake. Like, when you cut a canteloupe and find out it's past its prime. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:33:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGXEkq005218 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:33:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FABE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:32:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:32:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:/wimSwcB8N39Pw8C7QS5a1YVkjzqKnap@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGM5E12533 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:22:05 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BFC2FE03 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5453E7C21; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:22:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 28, 2002 8:10:29 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:22:04 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028162204.5453E7C21@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > > > Semifreddi's Bakery, around the corner from my office, makes its tuna > >> salad with horseradish -- it's *good*. > > > >I saw horseradish plants for sale at the nursery where I bought my > >roses, but passed. I'm regretting it now. > > I had just planted some in my old house in Sacramento when Frank & I > broke up, so I never got to harvest any. However, I'm told it's > extremely invasive -- the new owners are probably cursing my name. LOL. I've planted spearmint and lime mint in the front. I hope I am here long enough to curse my own name. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:33:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGXUkq005222 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:33:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FABEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:32:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:32:21 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGWIE14306 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:32:21 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:32:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD66E4.9CCB04D5@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:33:40 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I responded. Do you > need a suggestion? No, indeed. You already made your suggestion that I call upon friends. I replied with reasons why I couldn't, and now you've done the same thing. Just was noting it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:39:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGdCkq005241 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:39:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FACA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:38:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:38:04 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f45.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.45]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGc3I15385 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:38:03 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:37:58 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:37:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:37:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 16:37:58.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F989EE0:01C27EA0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I never buy mayonnaise. > >What is the difference between mayonnaise and Miracle Whip? >My mother used the latter. We had it on sandwiches. One side butter, the >other side mayonnaise. One or the other is needed for potato salad, >surely? Not surely, but often. I make both kinds. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:42:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGgBkq005256 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:42:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FAD07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:41:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:41:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGV2E13991 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:31:02 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SGV1hA012318 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:31:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:31:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028161938.7AFA37C28@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >There's an Indian restaurant here that serves an orgasmic rice >pudding. IMHO, the difference between a good rice pudding and one I >won't eat is the graininess. Which direction? Do you like graininess? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:44:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGipkq005273 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:44:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FAD73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:43:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:43:43 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGhgI17650 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:43:42 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:42:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD6948.D1E163D8@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:43:52 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Not surely, but often. I make both kinds. I neve have experienced non-mayo potato salad. What holds it together? Oh! You mean perhaps what I call German potato salad? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:47:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGlBkq005310 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:47:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FADA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:46:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:46:03 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGk2I18256 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:46:02 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021028164554.EULR7145.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:45:54 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:45:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: 100,000 March in San Francisco. Media Fail to Notice. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey, Rita: In his rant, John Perry Barlow asked readers to get out to the anti-war marches this weekend. He says 100K people showed up in SF, but the media couldn't be bothered to care. I blogged his account: http://www.istori.com/log/ Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:49:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGnKkq005320 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:49:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FADDA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:11 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f39.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGmBI18776 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:11 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:48:02 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:48:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 16:48:02.0898 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7EF5320:01C27EA1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: alyce cresap >Marie Ascher wrote: > > Not surely, but often. I make both kinds. > >I neve have experienced non-mayo potato salad. What holds it together? >Oh! You mean perhaps what I call German potato salad? Yes. Vinegar, dijon mustard, olive oil... Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:50:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGo6kq005324 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:50:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409E8D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:57 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGmqI18934 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:52 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11669 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 11:48:50 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 11:48:37 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Message-ID: <3DBD2411.14862.E1136A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021028161938.7AFA37C28@yellow.rahul.net> References: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 28, 2002 10:39:50 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Step one is cooking the rice in milk instead of water. I like rice pudding a little grainy, but if you increased the liquid and cooked it longer, the rice would mushify. I use vanilla, honey, heavy cream and lots of lemon zest as well. BrP > > There's an Indian restaurant here that serves an orgasmic rice > pudding. IMHO, the difference between a good rice pudding and one I > won't eat is the graininess. > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:52:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGqJkq005331 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:52:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FAE36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f126.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGpAI19407 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:51:04 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:51:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:51:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 16:51:04.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[343CD980:01C27EA2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have never made rice pudding, but I really like Kozy Shack brand. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports >Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:33 -0500 > >Step one is cooking the rice in milk instead of water. I like rice pudding >a little >grainy, but if you increased the liquid and cooked it longer, the rice >would mushify. I >use vanilla, honey, heavy cream and lots of lemon zest as well. > >BrP > > > > > > > There's an Indian restaurant here that serves an orgasmic rice > > pudding. IMHO, the difference between a good rice pudding and one I > > won't eat is the graininess. > > > > Karen _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:54:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGsIkq005370 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:54:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FAE7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:53:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:53:09 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGr9I19906 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:53:09 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13657 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 11:52:33 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 11:52:29 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:52:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Message-ID: <3DBD24F4.25639.E48A3C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I neve have experienced non-mayo potato salad. What holds it together? > >Oh! You mean perhaps what I call German potato salad? > > Yes. Vinegar, dijon mustard, olive oil... > > Marie and bacon grease - that's the crucial congealer BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:55:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGthkq005496 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:55:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FAEB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:54:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:54:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGiWI17947 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:44:32 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SGiVhA022230 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:44:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:44:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: life on a crutch In-Reply-To: <3DBD66E4.9CCB04D5@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >> I responded. Do you >> need a suggestion? > >No, indeed. You already made your suggestion that I call upon friends. I >replied with reasons why I couldn't, and now you've done the same thing. >Just was noting it. Oh. Okay. I think there is a large difference between needing to go to the store or having somthing carried - time not necessarily specific - and wanting to get to a downtown, daytime, scheduled event at a certain time, especially on a weekday. That's all. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:57:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGvpkq005512 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:57:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FAEE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3005137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGugI20619 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SGug49324469 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38F6BD7C for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:42 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <000001c27ea2$fd9d2050$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Marie Ascher >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 10:17 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports > > >>From: Janet Hardy >>Semifreddi's Bakery, around the corner from my office, makes its tuna >>salad with horseradish -- it's *good*. > >As a gefilte fish eater, I can appreciate fish and horseradish. > >Marie > During Passover fish and horseradish is an essential part of our feast. Brings back fond memories of grinding fresh horseradish. alec ------- Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 10:58:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SGwtkq005519 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:58:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FAF0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:57:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3005218 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:57:46 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGvfI20760 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:57:46 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:57:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD6CD8.52464C57@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:59:04 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > Yes. Vinegar, dijon mustard, olive oil... > Ah, my grandmother made that. So good. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:00:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SH0Qkq005676 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:00:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FAF37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:59:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3005339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:59:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f6.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGxGI21015 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:59:16 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:59:11 -0800 Received: from 209.244.178.133 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:59:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.178.133] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:59:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 16:59:11.0435 (UTC) FILETIME=[5669F9B0:01C27EA3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" > > >Oh! You mean perhaps what I call German potato salad? > > > > Yes. Vinegar, dijon mustard, olive oil... > > > > Marie >and bacon grease - that's the crucial congealer No. I've never done that. Although I'm sure I've eaten it that way. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:10:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHAqkq006343 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:10:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FB06A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:09:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3005414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:09:43 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Lou8bcNzgfOEIRt+9Sw7kJiGrusHSEI5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SGxhI21130 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:59:43 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBCD2FEBC for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CE9607C21; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:59:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 28, 2002 11:31: 1 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:59:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028165938.CE9607C21@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >There's an Indian restaurant here that serves an orgasmic rice > >pudding. IMHO, the difference between a good rice pudding and one I > >won't eat is the graininess. > > Which direction? Do you like graininess? No. Pudding, of any type, should be smmmmooooooothhhhh. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:14:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHEVkq006481 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:14:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409EBC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:13:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3005780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:13:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PqHbgQLsgQRZ5Ct6MCMtcMOLWmGOLywX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SH3MI21894 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:03:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865C92FF34 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 586847C1A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBD2411.14862.E1136A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Oct 28, 2002 11:48:33 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:03:18 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028170318.586847C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > Step one is cooking the rice in milk instead of water. I like rice pudding a little > grainy, but if you increased the liquid and cooked it longer, the rice would mushify. I > use vanilla, honey, heavy cream and lots of lemon zest as well. Sounds like a guaranteed orgasm to me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:20:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHKSkq007112 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:20:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FB141@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:19:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3006781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:19:13 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHJ6I24712 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:19:06 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9SHJ6W04931 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:19:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000901c27ea6$5bbbcb20$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:20:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I have never made rice pudding, but I really like Kozy Shack brand. > > Marie > lounge_ascher@hotmail.com Old Fashioned Rice Pudding 1 3/4 cup water 1/2 cup rice 1/2 tsp salt 2 cups millk 2 eggs, beaten 1/3 cup sugar 1 tsp vanillla 1/4 cup raisins (optional) nutmet or cinnamon Heat oven to 350 degrees. Bring water to a boil. Stir in rice and salt. Cover and simmer until all water is absorbed, about 30 minutes. Add milk and boil gently, stirring occasionally, until mixture thickens slightly, about 5 minutes. Combine eggs, sugar, and vanilla in a bowl. Gradually stir in rice mixture, mix well. Pour into a greased 1 1/2 quart casserole. If desired, stir in raisins and sprinkle cinnamon or nutmeg over top. Place casserole in a pan containing about an inch of hot water. Bake uncovered in a 350 degree oven for 45 to 50 minutes. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:23:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHNQkq007130 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:23:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FB179@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:22:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3006983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:22:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f251.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.129]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHMFI25391 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:22:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:22:10 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:22:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:22:09 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 17:22:10.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C374AE0:01C27EA6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: >I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with >celery, >onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. Served on rye >bread preferably. I use celery, red onion, red bell pepper, parsley, grated carrot (if I have it), celery salt and mayo. I usually make it when I have the veges lying around. My tuna salad is non-tuna-heavy and very colorful. I like it straight or with TJ's mini-pita bread. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:27:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHRAkq007147 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:27:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FB1DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:26:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:26:01 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHQ1I25952 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:26:01 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9SHPvW12783 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:25:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c27ea7$506c2ca0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:27:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Marie Ascher said: > > >I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with > >celery, > >onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. Served on rye > >bread preferably. > > I use celery, red onion, red bell pepper, parsley, grated > carrot (if I have it), celery salt and mayo. I usually make > it when I have the veges lying around. My tuna salad is > non-tuna-heavy and very colorful. I like it straight or > with TJ's mini-pita bread. > > -rashmi This sounds good. Btw how much do you have to pay for a red pepper? $1.50 each here. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:28:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHSDkq007221 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:28:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409ED0D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:27:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:27:03 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHR3I26083 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:27:03 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:26:57 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:26:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:26:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 17:26:57.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[37BA7540:01C27EA7] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 6:57 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? >> >>Yes. >No. There are lots of types of vegetarians, such as vegans and >ovo-lacto. I don't see how that could apply to pregnancy. Their >vegetarianism is quite real no matter how they limit it. Huh? Someone who eats hamburger on a regular basis is no vegetarian however you stretch the definition. It's the binariness that makes it comparable to pregnancy. -rashmi, non-fungarian _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:30:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHUokq007392 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:30:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FB23A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:29:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:29:41 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHTfI26572 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:29:41 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-95.panax.com [65.114.190.95]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHTat31603 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:29:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:29:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBD65CB.6D053B4A@valstar.net> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern > >Never heard that till this moment. I heart deviled eggs. >alyce Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has veggies in it. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:37:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHb0kq007425 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:37:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FB2D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:35:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:35:51 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHZ0I27416 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:35:00 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SHZ049013470 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:35:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10626BD0F for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:35:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:35:00 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <000201c27ea8$57a51f80$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <000401c27ea7$506c2ca0$9d0332d1@0018079268> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Doris Markland >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:28 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports > > >> Marie Ascher said: >> >> >I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with >> >celery, >> >onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. Served on >rye >> >bread preferably. >> >> I use celery, red onion, red bell pepper, parsley, grated >> carrot (if I have it), celery salt and mayo. I usually make >> it when I have the veges lying around. My tuna salad is >> non-tuna-heavy and very colorful. I like it straight or >> with TJ's mini-pita bread. >> >> -rashmi > >This sounds good. Btw how much do you >have to pay for a red pepper? $1.50 each here. > > - D. M. > Red peppers were cheap last time we shopped, like $.99 a pound. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:41:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHfXkq007454 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:41:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409EE61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:24 -0500 Received: from mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com (mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.69.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9SHUOI26787 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:30:24 -0500 Message-Id: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:30:24 PST From: Yahoo! 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News http://dailynews.yahoo.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:42:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHfxkq007458 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:41:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409EE78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3008046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:50 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHejI28357 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:50 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SHej49460080 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C39BE30 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:45 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <000301c27ea9$2540c610$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rashmi Murthy >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:22 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports > > >Marie Ascher said: > >>I make tuna salad about once every two weeks, pretty regularly, with >>celery, >>onion, carrot, celery salt, a touch of oregano, and mayo. >Served on rye >>bread preferably. > >I use celery, red onion, red bell pepper, parsley, grated >carrot (if I have it), celery salt and mayo. I usually make >it when I have the veges lying around. My tuna salad is >non-tuna-heavy and very colorful. I like it straight or >with TJ's mini-pita bread. > >-rashmi > Rashmi, Trader Joe's is coming to Wilmington, DE! The store will be located on the corner of 202 and Naamans Road in the Market Square Shopping Center in Wilmington. Our store in Wayne is wonderful. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:49:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHnlkq007520 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:49:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409EFF0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:48:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:48:38 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHcbI27914 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:38:38 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHcac05103 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:38:36 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SHcaRG027291 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:38:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028095434.00a516b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:54:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028170318.586847C1A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DBD2411.14862.E1136A@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:03 AM 10/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Paul R. Barfoot said: > > Step one is cooking the rice in milk instead of water. I like rice > pudding a little > > grainy, but if you increased the liquid and cooked it longer, the rice > would mushify. I > > use vanilla, honey, heavy cream and lots of lemon zest as well. > >Sounds like a guaranteed orgasm to me. Only one?? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 11:59:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SHx1kq007700 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:59:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FB522@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:57:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3010027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:57:51 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SHvoI31914 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:57:50 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PDSN02.DPT for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:55:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBD7B23.7A5DEB13@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:00:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern > > > >Never heard that till this moment. I heart deviled eggs. > >alyce > > Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has veggies in it. The hardest part about shopping at Albertsons is that they have deviled-egg trays. Every time I walk past them the little three-inch me with the horns and the tail that sits on that shoulder jabs me with his pitchfork. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:01:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SI1Rkq007810 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:01:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F139@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:00:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3010311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:00:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SI0II32545 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:00:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PDWV00.PSI for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:58:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:02:35 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Arizona shooting! Five bucks Natalie blames me for it. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:07:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SI71kq008018 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:07:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FB5E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:05:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3010772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:05:52 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SI5pI01121 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:05:51 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9SI5ob45612 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:05:50 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 08:06:42 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DBCF012.7493.557398@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Oct 2002 at 9:30, Yahoo! News wrote: > Arizona shooting! Five bucks John blames an Arab for it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:14:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIEJkq008052 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:14:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F29F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:13:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:13:09 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SID8I02280 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:13:08 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AE308E0278; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:13:04 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:14:49 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <611120322718.20021028111449@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 100,000 March in San Francisco. Media Fail to Notice. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 9:45 AM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> Hey, Rita: In his rant, John Perry Barlow asked readers to get out to the PK> anti-war marches this weekend. He says 100K people showed up in SF, but about 50 did here in Boise, complete with signs to Honk If You Want No War or something to that effect. I was stuck at a light in front of them (near the mall) and about every tenth car honked. But, it did make local TV news and newspaper both. PK> the media couldn't be bothered to care. I blogged his account: PK> http://www.istori.com/log/ PK> Pete -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:15:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIFMkq008082 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:15:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FB6E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:14:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:14:12 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIE6I02380 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:14:06 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AE681BE026E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:14:00 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:15:46 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1421120379260.20021028111546@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021028165938.CE9607C21@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028165938.CE9607C21@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 9:59 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> Which direction? Do you like graininess? KK> No. Pudding, of any type, should be smmmmooooooothhhhh. Even bread pudding? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:16:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIGIkq008094 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:16:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FB6FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:09 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIF8I02553 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:08 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEA8740252; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:04 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:16:50 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1211120443292.20021028111650@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 10:26 AM, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >>No. There are lots of types of vegetarians, such as vegans and >>ovo-lacto. I don't see how that could apply to pregnancy. Their >>vegetarianism is quite real no matter how they limit it. RM> Huh? Someone who eats hamburger on a regular basis is RM> no vegetarian however you stretch the definition. It's RM> the binariness that makes it comparable to pregnancy. Exactly. Maybe she'll understand it now, but I'm not holding my breath. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:16:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIGukq008099 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:16:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F2D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:46 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIFiI02628 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:45 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEC9DC0246; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:37 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:17:23 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1071120476610.20021028111723@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <000401c27ea7$506c2ca0$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <000401c27ea7$506c2ca0$9d0332d1@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 10:27 AM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> This sounds good. Btw how much do you DM> have to pay for a red pepper? $1.50 each here. Just bought red ones and orange ones yesterday. 79 cents each at Fred Meyer. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:18:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIIFkq008105 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:18:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F2F0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:06 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIH5I02818 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:05 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AF1DF70284; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:01 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:18:44 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <71120557917.20021028111844@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBD7B23.7A5DEB13@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBD7B23.7A5DEB13@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 11:00 AM, John Williams wrote: JW> The hardest part about shopping at Albertsons is that they have deviled-egg JW> trays. Every time I walk past them the little three-inch me with the horns and the JW> tail that sits on that shoulder jabs me with his pitchfork. Yup. One of my favorite things to bring to a library potluck. Will probably pick them up for the one this holiday thursday. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:19:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIJ1kq008109 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:19:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F307@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:51 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIHoI02950 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:50 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AF4A11E0276; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:17:46 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:19:31 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1421120604964.20021028111931@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona In-Reply-To: <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 11:02 AM, John Williams wrote: >> Arizona shooting! JW> Five bucks Natalie blames me for it. Right on. You're the one who refused access to the midterm for him. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:22:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIMNkq008123 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:22:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FB7BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:21:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:21:14 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SILEI03426 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:21:14 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-82.panax.com [63.163.41.82]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SILCt11272 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:21:12 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028132042.00a0b650@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:21:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona In-Reply-To: <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Arizona shooting! > > Five bucks Natalie blames me for it. >JMW I was thinking that maybe the crazy woman that scared you in the library did it. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:26:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIQnkq008147 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F3D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:25:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:25:40 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIPdI03943 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:25:40 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A11F172024C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:25:35 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:27:18 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <21121071595.20021028112718@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028132042.00a0b650@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028132042.00a0b650@pop3.norton.antivirus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 11:21 AM, bonniev wrote: >> > Arizona shooting! >> >> Five bucks Natalie blames me for it. >>JMW b> I was thinking that maybe the crazy woman that scared you in the library b> did it. The story said "gunman", but who knows if that was a generic reference to "shooter". -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:34:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIYZkq008338 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:34:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FB907@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:33:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:33:26 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:DnB232KJBhtBZxshgDqsEvHWXn1VQqzT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SINQI03690 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:23:26 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3902FFF6 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5AC247C16; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:23:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <000401c27ea7$506c2ca0$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Oct 28, 2002 11:27:38 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:23:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028182325.5AC247C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > This sounds good. Btw how much do you > have to pay for a red pepper? $1.50 each here. If you shop around here (like at a Mexican grocer) they are the same price as green ones. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:36:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIa6kq008414 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:36:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FB929@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:34:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:34:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:yCOZ9wB35LlnM1lFbKlsdIx2BwlnpKnC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIOuI03833 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:24:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6095C2FFAB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2BE8B7C16; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Oct 28, 2002 5:26:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:24:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > 10/28/2002, 6:57 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? > >> > >>Yes. > > >No. There are lots of types of vegetarians, such as vegans and > >ovo-lacto. I don't see how that could apply to pregnancy. Their > >vegetarianism is quite real no matter how they limit it. > > Huh? Someone who eats hamburger on a regular basis is > no vegetarian however you stretch the definition. It's > the binariness that makes it comparable to pregnancy. We weren't talking about 'on a regular basis', but someone being a vegetarian and eating a hamburger. Does eating one hamburger make you not a vegetarian? I don't think so. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:36:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIa3kq008413 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:36:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FB928@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:34:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:34:49 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIOlI03811 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:24:47 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A0E31630248; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:24:35 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:26:20 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: Dan Lester Organization: Idaho Library Association X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <221121014073.20021028112620@idaholibraries.org> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fwd: .!...?!!! In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, wordslers, WTF does this one mean. I understand the issues of being a non-native English speaker. I do like the term "the close east". Makes a certain amount of sense. dan This is a forwarded message From: Stanislas KALINOWSKI To: dan@idaholibraries.org Date: Monday, October 28, 2002, 11:02:09 AM Subject: .!...?!!! ===8<==============Original message text=============== because I am not sure of the translation I send also a copy in French language * MOSCOW. Tragedy, terror, Theatre of Cruelty. Terrorists - NOT! Terror - YES!!! All my preceding comments were blocked!!! Why? Because I dared to write Terroristes - NOT!!! But, in any the comments nor in any the articles informing of the tragedy, I never read: Mr. President POUTINE, only I read by all Putin! Why? However, everyone was filled with wonder by the spectacular action at the "force special" All agree with the decision taken. Therefore, why have does not respect that which made this decision? Is this the reason, because nobody even in the thought wants to say that Tchétchène it is a "terrorist"? If everyone thinks thus, therefore why one writes: terrorists in Moscow, and not, TRAGEDY in MOSCOW?!!! Does one have to accuse Mr. President POUTINE, as regards made to Moscow? Everyone sighed well of relief, but... I read in no article nor in any comment, even not a temptation to show us the bottom of this TRAGEDY!!! Yes, it was and it is a TRAGEDY!!! Tragedy of the Russians! Tragedy of Tchétchènes! Tragedy of us all!!! Yesterday, it was with BALI Today we have MOSCOW Before yesterday it was New York, PARIS, Planes... Without stop and since years, we have the Close East. Tomorrow,, precisely, where,, how,, how and which,, will be tomorrow?!!! Why will be tomorrow...?!!! Because we have today...!!! Because we had yesterday...!!! Because we had before yesterday...!!! Because we have without stop and since years...!!! It is obvious, that Mr. President POUTINE, could not make another decision. It is obvious, that the problem of Tchétchénie was not caused by the Russians, even, if it is them which are shown fingers. Therefore, why?!!! Why, today, there N is no international NOTORIETY, which can make it possible to solve problems without flow of blood? Isn't there this NOTORIETY, only and only for the reason, which if there were one of them, there would be no more problems,,, which one cannot solve today,,, without,,, payment of blood?!!! Why, today that exists? Who with interest, so that there is this state today?!!! The close East - the main thing nest of the problems of today. With the exception of some, nobody wants truly to solve it, in this satisfying only with "promises for more late"!!! Why? European union - principal Caricature of the democracy of today. All are filled with wonder by selling Poland to the Germans and even the Poles them even not seeing that - are filled with wonder like sheep at their "torturers"!!! The Russians are risés, because they draw all the attention to this situation!!! France, because it showed and shows this sad truth cunningly collects only spittles !!! Why? Norway decided to move the embassy of Israel of its Capital. Therefore, they have serious doubts about terrorism!!! Therefore, they consider Israel as the base of terrorism!!!? Therefore, why they are satisfied only with the displacement of the embassy and not, by a total solution?!!! This only selfishness dictated by the anti-semitism? Paradoks or paradox?!!! Capital of the NOBEL - Symbol and the principal Reference marks of our DEMOCRACY of today!!! Are the Norwegians ashamed of the NOBEL? Or, perhaps they try to be justified for the faults made by the Commission which grants the Prices of Nobel?!!! There, I see already the explosion of hysteria even if one will block this comment. But.... Moscow, European Union, NOBEL, anti-semitism, terrorism, extraordinary... Today, Mr. President POUTINE, to save PEACE in the WORLD will it be obliged - obliged to make a decision, which, normally, it would never make?!!! Will the Norwegians, want they today the displacement of the embassy of Israel?!!! Poland will it vulgarly be sold to the Germans today?!!! Will they today, to the Close East run blood?!!! All these questions have only one answer: NOT!!! NOT, if we had an International NOTORIETY Respected by All!!! Therefore, why we do not have it? Thus why the United States of America today are caricatured and risés? Thus... The answer is simple and at the same time alarming: "we do not have it" because today, COMBINE only reign on the Earth and only them based on HYPOCRISY!!! E.g.: Everyone is shocked by the anti-semitism and at the same time all show owes the Jews like swindlers... In parallel, nobody proposes a strict international control of the taking away of the money followed by definition of the international laws, allowing to block the doubtful operations and to return the money in question to all those, has which one stole it!!! Also, nobody proposes the extraordinary one: today there is no more "anti-semitism"!!! If somebody is continued by the law and in parallel shouts "anti-semitism" or at the same time occupies a station raised in a country other than Israel, then one must immediately relieve it of all his functions for the very simple cause: at the time when it was selected - there was no anti-semitism, and when it has problems with the law - there is immediately the anti-semitism!!! Israel already has existed for more than 50 years!!! It is only enough to want to make specific decisions which do not require any financial investment, but only of the goodwill, to cease combine them and the anti-semitism!!! Why this one does not want to carry it out?!!! There, I am especially astonished by the fact, which the Jews praise that they have the most Nobels Price and they even did not propose until now this solution! All the more, that having the possibilities of control of "doubtful" money flows, it is possible immediately to define, which carried out the taking away and by there the doubts or the inculpation of the Jews to the various "miracles are ceased immediately"!!! It is them which should more want to start this solution! It is them and only them, which fights against the anti-semitism!!! E.g.: Poland or Russia One says, that the Jews led these countries towards the economic catastrophe - the wheel. In fact, to lead these countries towards the ruin it would be necessary to turn of colossal money sums. Quantities of money, which cannot be moved by bags but by banquaires taking away!!! E.g.: European union. I read in an article which the European Union can save a serious amount of money in are budget while only eliminating its sitting from Luxembourg, which are "useless over there". Indeed, all the administration of the Union is in Brussels and Strasbourg. Therefore, that the offices in Luxembourg make? With which they is used? For which reason one does find them over there? By visiting Luxembourg, one sees a splendid city full with antiquities and much with the banks. For the needs for Luxembourg, such a quantity of banks is forcing in redundancy! On the other hand, while walking on the city, one sees with the outside of the banks, also a strong quantity of the fiduciary chancellery and of "limp" (addresses) postal of various companies. This situation causes an assumption: one goes to Luxembourg "to bleach money"!!! This assumption is pure provocation, because I do not have any base to say thus, but... Oui, but, why, those, which one been able in an unjustified way to suspect thus and by there caused a constant doubt about the quality of the institutions of the European Union by weakening its notoriety do not do anything to solve this problem?!!! While being based on these some examples, the conclusion is very simple: Moscow, Bali, New York, Anti-semitism... Today, they are not aucuns incidental! Everyone knows it and knows the sources!!! Therefore, why, one does not stop the sources but have is satisfied to repair the holes in the stoppings!!!? PS Because the comments addressed previously (signed "sakx1000") all were blocked because of the relevance of the truth, I will sign that one: "Nobody - because of the truth!!!" * This comment was addressed today to www.politykaonet.pl, three times successively. It was three times placed in the waiter, then three times withdrawn from the waiter!!! Indeed, today, it is not terrorism but the TRUTH which makes a Bleue fear with everyone!!! Guess why?!!! ** en FRANCE ** MOSCOU. Tragédie, terreur, Théâtre de Barbarie. Terroristes - NON ! Terreur - OUI !!! Tous mes précédents commentaires ont été bloqués !!! Pourquoi ? Parce que j'osais écrire Terroristes - NON !!! Mais, dans aucun des commentaires ni dans aucun des articles informant de la tragédie, je n'ai jamais lu : Monsieur le Président POUTINE, seulement j'ai lu par tous Putin ! Pourquoi ? Pourtant, tout le monde a été émerveillé par l'action spectaculaire des "force spéciales" Tous sont d'accord avec la décision prise. Donc, pourquoi ont ne respecte pas celui qui a pris cette décision ? Est-ce la raison, parce que personne même dans la pensée ne veut dire que Tchétchène c'est un "terroriste" ? Si tout le monde pense ainsi, donc pourquoi on écrit : terroristes à Moscou, et non pas, TRAGÉDIE à MOSCOU ?!!! Est-ce qu'on doit inculper Monsieur le Président POUTINE, pour ce qui est arrivé à Moscou ? Tout le monde a bien soupiré de soulagement, mais... Je n'ai lu dans aucun article ni dans aucun commentaire, même pas une tentation de nous montrer le fond de cette TRAGÉDIE !!! Oui, c'était et c'est une TRAGÉDIE !!! Tragédie des Russes ! Tragédie des Tchétchènes ! Tragédie de nous tous !!! Hier, c'était à BALI Aujourd'hui nous avons MOSCOU Avant hier c'était NEW YORK, PARIS, Avions,... Sans arrêt et depuis des années, nous avons le Proche Orient. Demain,,, justement, où,,, comment,,, de quelle façon et qui,,, sera demain ?!!! Pourquoi sera demain... ?!!! Parce que nous avons aujourd'hui...!!! Parce que nous avions hier...!!! Parce que nous avions avant hier...!!! Parce que nous avons sans arrêt et depuis des années...!!! Il est évident, que Monsieur le Président POUTINE, n'a pas pu prendre une autre décision. Il est évident, que le problème de la Tchétchénie n'a pas été provoqué par les Russes, même, si ce sont eux qui sont montrés des doigts. Donc, pourquoi ?!!! Pourquoi, aujourd'hui, il n y a aucune NOTORIÉTÉ internationale, qui peut permettre de solutionner des problèmes sans écoulement du sang ? Est-ce qu'il n'y a pas cette NOTORIÉTÉ, seulement et uniquement pour la raison, que si il y en avait une, il n'y aurait plus de problèmes,,,, lesquels on ne peut pas résoudre aujourd'hui,,, sans,,, versement du sang ?!!! Pourquoi, aujourd'hui ça existe ? Qui à de l'intérêt, pour qu'il existe cet état aujourd'hui ?!!! Proche Orient - principal nid des problèmes d'aujourd'hui. A l'exception des quelques uns, personne ne veut véritablement le résoudre, en ce contentant seulement de "promesses pour plus tard" !!! Pourquoi ? Union Européenne - Caricature principale de la démocratie d'aujourd'hui. Tous sont émerveillés en vendant la Pologne aux Allemands et même les Polonais eux même ne voyant pas ça - sont émerveillés comme des moutons de leurs "bourreaux" !!! Les Russes sont risés, parce qu'ils attirent toute l'attention sur cette situation !!! La France, parce qu'elle a montré et démontre cette triste vérité sournoisement ne ramasse que les crachats. Pourquoi ? La Norvège a décidé de déplacer l'ambassade d'Israël de sa Capitale. Donc, ils ont des sérieux doutes sur le terrorisme !!! Donc, ils considèrent Israël comme la base du terrorisme !!!? Donc, pourquoi ils se contentent uniquement du déplacement de l'ambassade et non pas, par une solution globale ?!!! Est-ce que ce seulement l'égoïsme dicté par l'antisémitisme ? Paradoxe ou paradoxe ?!!! Capitale du NOBEL - Symbole et des principaux Repères de notre DÉMOCRATIE d'aujourd'hui !!! Est-ce que les Norvégiens ont honte du NOBEL ? Ou, peut-être ils tentent de se justifier pour les fautes commises par la Commission qui accorde les Prix de Nobel ?!!! Là, je vois déjà l'explosion de l'hystérie même si on va bloquer ce commentaire. Mais.... Moscou, Union Européenne, NOBEL, antisémitisme, terrorisme, extraordinaires... Est-ce qu'aujourd'hui, Monsieur le Président POUTINE, pour sauver le PAIX au MONDE sera-t-il obligé - obligé de prendre une décision, que, normalement, il ne prendrait jamais ?!!! Est-ce que les Norvégiens, voudront ils aujourd'hui le déplacement de l'ambassade d'Israël ?!!! Est-ce que la Pologne sera-t-elle aujourd'hui vulgairement vendue aux Allemands ?!!! Est-ce qu'aujourd'hui, au Proche Orient ils vont couler du sang ?!!! Toutes ces questions n'ont qu'une seule réponse : NON !!! NON, si nous avions une NOTORIÉTÉ Internationale Respectée par Tous !!! Donc, pourquoi nous ne l'avons pas ? Donc pourquoi les États-Unis d'Amérique sont aujourd'hui caricaturés et risés ? Donc... La réponse est simple et en même temps effrayante : "nous ne l'avons pas" parce qu'aujourd'hui, règnent sur la Terre seulement et uniquement les COMBINES basées sur l'HYPOCRISIE !!! Ex.: Tout le monde est choqué par l'antisémitisme et en même temps tous montrent du doit les juifs comme des escrocs... Parallèlement, personne ne propose un strict contrôle international du prélèvement de l'argent suivi par définition des lois internationales, permettant de bloquer les opérations douteuses et de rendre l'argent en question à tous ceux, a qui on l'a volé !!! Également, personne ne propose l'extraordinaire : aujourd'hui il n'y a plus de "l'antisémitisme" !!! Si quelqu'un est poursuivi par la loi et parallèlement crie "antisémitisme" ou en même temps occupe un poste élevé dans un pays autre qu'Israël, alors on doit immédiatement le destituer de toutes ses fonctions pour la cause très simple : au moment où il a été choisi - il n'y avait pas d'antisémitisme, et quand il a des problèmes avec la loi - il y a tout de suite l'antisémitisme !!! Israël existe déjà depuis plus de 50 années !!! Il suffit seulement de vouloir prendre des décisions spécifiques qui n'exigent aucun investissement financier, mais seulement de la bonne volonté, pour cesser les combines et l'antisémitisme !!! Pourquoi ceci on ne veut pas le réaliser ?!!! Là, je suis surtout étonné par le fait, que les juifs se vantent qu'ils ont le plus de Prix Nobels et eux même n'ont pas proposé jusqu'à présent cette solution ! D'autant plus, qu'ayant les possibilités de contrôle des flux d'argent "douteux", il est possible immédiatement de définir, qui a réalisé les prélèvements et par là sont cessés immédiatement les doutes ou l'inculpation des juifs aux divers "miracles" !!! Ce sont eux qui devraient le plus vouloir mettre en route cette solution ! Ce sont eux et seulement eux, qui luttent contre l'antisémitisme !!! Ex.: La Pologne ou la Russie On dit, que les juifs ont conduit ces pays vers la catastrophe économique - les volant. En fait, pour conduire ces pays vers la ruine il faudrait tourner de colossales sommes d'argent. Des quantités d'argent, qui ne peuvent pas être déplacées par des valises mais par des prélèvements banquaires !!! Ex.: Union Européenne. J'ai lu dans un article que l'Union Européenne peut économiser une sérieuse somme d'argent dans sont budget en éliminant seulement ses siégeant de Luxembourg, lesquels sont là-bas "inutiles". Effectivement, tout l'administration de l'Union se trouve à Bruxelles et à Strasbourg. Donc, que font les bureaux au Luxembourg ? A qui ils servent ? Pour quelle raison on les trouve là-bas ? En visitant Luxembourg, on voit une magnifique ville pleines d'antiquités et beaucoup des banques. Pour les besoins de Luxembourg, une telle quantité de banques est forcement en redondance ! Par contre, en se promenant sur la ville, on voit au dehors des banques, aussi une forte quantité des chancellerie fiduciaire et de "boites" (les adresses) postales de différentes sociétés. Cette situation provoque une supposition : on va au Luxembourg pour "blanchir de l'argent" !!! Cette supposition est de la pure provocation, parce que je n'ai aucune base pour dire ainsi, mais,... Oui, mais, pourquoi, ceux, qui on pu de façon injustifiée soupçonner ainsi et par là ont provoqué un constant doute sur la qualité des institutions de l'Union Européenne en affaiblissant sa notoriété ne font rien pour résoudre ce problème ?!!! En se basant sur ces quelques exemples, la conclusion est très simple : Moscou, Bali, New York, Antisémitisme,... Aujourd'hui, ce ne sont aucuns incidents ! Tout le monde le sait et connaît les sources !!! Donc, pourquoi, on ne bouche pas les sources mais ont se contente de réparer les trous dans les barrages !!!? PS. Parce que les commentaires adressés précédemment (signé "sakx1000") ont été tous bloqués à cause de la pertinence de la vérité, je vais signer celui-là : "Personne - à cause de la vérité !!!" * Ce commentaire a été adressé aujourd'hui a www.politykaonet.pl, trois fois successivement. Il a été trois fois placé dans le serveur, puis trois fois retiré du serveur !!! Effectivement, aujourd'hui, ce n'est pas terrorisme mais La VÉRITÉ qui fait une peur Bleue à tout le monde !!! Devinez pourquoi ?!!! THONON, le 28 octobre 2002 Stanislas KALINOWSKI ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Best regards, Dan mailto:dan@idaholibraries.org From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:37:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIb4kq008485 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:37:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FB943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:35:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:35:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:x8zsiqrjnL1BhC7uEb6zPmRYZ2E3hiXu@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIPoI03950 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:25:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9FC2FFAB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:25:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0B4E57C1D; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:25:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <000301c27ea9$2540c610$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin" at "Oct 28, 2002 12:40:45 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:25:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028182549.0B4E57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin said: > Trader Joe's is coming to Wilmington, DE! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:37:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIbOkq008489 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:37:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F50E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:36:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:36:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bEUFIJ6iQFAcQxI/ngfePfp5cjLt6wDj@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIQEI04005 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:26:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADCD2FFAB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 60C6B7C14; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:26:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028095434.00a516b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Oct 28, 2002 9:54:45 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:26:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028182613.60C6B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At 09:03 AM 10/28/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > Step one is cooking the rice in milk instead of water. I like rice > > pudding a little > > > grainy, but if you increased the liquid and cooked it longer, the rice > > would mushify. I > > > use vanilla, honey, heavy cream and lots of lemon zest as well. > > > >Sounds like a guaranteed orgasm to me. > > Only one?? Per bite.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:40:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIe3kq008569 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:40:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F56B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:38:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:38:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:KtHw4LuvDRDtWAnoLaKcysVB652rxh7C@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SISqI04417 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:28:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91002FE04 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A9D797C14; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:28:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <1421120379260.20021028111546@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 28, 2002 11:15:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:28:51 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028182851.A9D797C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/28/2002, 9:59 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> Which direction? Do you like graininess? > > KK> No. Pudding, of any type, should be smmmmooooooothhhhh. > > Even bread pudding? It for sure shouldn't be grainy! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:42:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIgjkq008585 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:42:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FBA08@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:41:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:41:36 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIfXI06212 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:41:36 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SIfX49036310 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51406A72A for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:41:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:41:33 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <001901c27eb1$a36a9ea0$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:25 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! > >We weren't talking about 'on a regular basis', but someone being a >vegetarian and eating a hamburger. Does eating one hamburger make you >not a vegetarian? I don't think so. > >Karen > Think it depends on why you are a veggie. I know a few veggies that would be very upset if they ever eat meat or animal products ever again. alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu "Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of magic." - Arthur C. Clarke From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:46:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIkVkq008684 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:46:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F630@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:21 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIjLI06823 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:21 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-82.panax.com [63.163.41.82]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIjJt16785 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028134401.00a00730@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: 100,000 March in San Francisco. Media Fail to Notice. In-Reply-To: <611120322718.20021028111449@gailndan.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >about 50 did here in Boise, complete with signs to Honk If You Want No >War or something to that effect. I was stuck at a light in front of >them (near the mall) and about every tenth car honked. There was a car with a Massachusetts license plate parked on Cottage Street in Bar Harbor this morning. Written on the back windshield in giant white letters was: "In God We Trust. Thou Shalt Not Kill." Bloody tourists. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:46:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIkhkq008687 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:46:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBA8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:33 -0500 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIjWI06864 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:45:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00M83G3VR9@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:45:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:48:01 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: 100,000 March in San Francisco. Media Fail to Notice. In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Hey, Rita: In his rant, John Perry Barlow asked readers to get out to the >anti-war marches this weekend. He says 100K people showed up in SF, but >the media couldn't be bothered to care. I blogged his account: >http://www.istori.com/log/ A friend who was there says he thinks a realistic estimate is more like 50,000-60,000. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:47:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIlckq008693 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:47:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBAA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:46:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:46:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIkSI06980 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:46:28 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-82.panax.com [63.163.41.82]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIkNt17006 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:46:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028134557.00a0dd50@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:46:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Does eating one hamburger make you >not a vegetarian? --Karen Yes. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:48:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SImYkq008767 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:48:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBABD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:47:25 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sQ8WJnj8+3dKOSL2h5NSBQn9b9oBYXZK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIbOI05538 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:37:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742A33000B for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:37:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 084067C1A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:37:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: A new word--Alyce, don't read! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:37:23 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028183723.084067C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Webinar. This is way too ugly to live; I can only hope it dies a quick death. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:50:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIo4kq008775 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:50:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FBAF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:48:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:48:54 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SImsI07666 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:48:54 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:48:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD86E7.F9880E37@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:50:15 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: .!...?!!! References: <221121014073.20021028112620@idaholibraries.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > Well, wordslers, WTF does this one mean. I understand the issues of > being a non-native English speaker. I do like the term "the close > east". I think he is calling Putin a terrorist or the head of a terrorist regime. And is saying that the tragedy is really the treatment of Chetchen (sp), and not the hostages dying from gas? I dunno. alyce alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:50:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIoKkq008779 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:50:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBAFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:49:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:49:10 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SInAI07768 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:49:10 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-82.panax.com [63.163.41.82]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIn9t17655 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:49:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028134813.00a03090@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:49:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <001901c27eb1$a36a9ea0$48305b80@EAGLE72> References: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Think it depends on why you are a veggie. I know a few veggies that >would be very upset if they ever eat meat or animal products ever again. >alec I know vegetarians who gag, choke, and run out of the room if they discover there was chicken stock in the pasta sauce. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:52:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIqAkq008909 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:52:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBB2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:51:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:51:00 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIp0I08134 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:51:00 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:50:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD8765.C03BACC3@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:52:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A new word--Alyce, don't read! References: <20021028183723.084067C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Webinar. > > This is way too ugly to live; I can only hope it dies a quick death. Why are you disseminating it? And what is it? Go ahead and say--I am strong; I can take it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:53:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIrekq008922 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:53:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FBB5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:52:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:52:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RkdXwHOIIIfxUwq8/nvW/DIPQqtcVPkB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIgVI06393 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:42:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB3F2FFC9 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:42:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 73B9C7C10; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:42:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <001901c27eb1$a36a9ea0$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin" at "Oct 28, 2002 1:41:33 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:42:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028184227.73B9C7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin said: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: English Language Discussion Group > >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay > >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:25 PM > >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! > > > > >We weren't talking about 'on a regular basis', but someone being a > >vegetarian and eating a hamburger. Does eating one hamburger make you > >not a vegetarian? I don't think so. > > > >Karen > > > > Think it depends on why you are a veggie. I know a few veggies that > would be very upset if they ever eat meat or animal products ever again. Would they stop calling themselves vegetarians? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:58:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIwRkq009131 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:58:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F7C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:57:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3013656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:57:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fWVjx/i+M6G9UQPbxYP6XFSBAXT5nlm3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIlGI07116 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:47:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544192FF8D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 15AA37C0E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:47:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028134557.00a0dd50@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 28, 2002 1:46:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:47:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028184716.15AA37C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Does eating one hamburger make you > >not a vegetarian? --Karen > > Yes. I bet most vegetarians would disagree with you. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:59:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIxPkq009142 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:59:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FBC1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIw7I09773 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:07 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA20641 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 13:57:56 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 13:57:48 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:57:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Message-ID: <3DBD4255.27750.1575036@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028134557.00a0dd50@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU but eating a hamburger once doesn't mean that you'll ever want one again I think it's silly (or at least not productive) to say that someone who normally doesn't eat meat loses their status as a "vegetarian" from having tasted meat at all. I was once in love with a woman, but that sure as hell doesn't make me straight. BrP > >Does eating one hamburger make you > >not a vegetarian? --Karen > > Yes. > > > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 12:59:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SIxYkq009146 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:59:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FBC24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:24 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIwOI09824 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:24 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:58:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:59:36 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: call up the reserves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CNN sez: Between 100,000 and 200,000 reserves will be called up starting almost immediately. Some will be used for "homeland security" and others will be trained to "occupy Iraq when the war is over." Is hubris unknown to this administration? This so offends me that I barely can stand it. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:02:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJ2Wkq009250 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:02:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBC8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Agjx1qlIJ9e8/MagO90zmGoql7Jt72Uj@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIpMI08193 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:51:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966023001A for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 62CEA7C0E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:51:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028134813.00a03090@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 28, 2002 1:49: 4 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:51:18 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028185118.62CEA7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Think it depends on why you are a veggie. I know a few veggies that > >would be very upset if they ever eat meat or animal products ever again. > >alec > > I know vegetarians who gag, choke, and run out of the room if they discover > there was chicken stock in the pasta sauce. So? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:03:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJ31kq009256 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:03:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBC9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:52 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJ1qI10707 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:52 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SJ1p49383229 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF3FA59A for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:01:51 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <001a01c27eb4$79918c30$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <20021028184227.73B9C7C10@yellow.rahul.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:42 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! > > >Alec D. Plotkin said: >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: English Language Discussion Group >> >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen Kay >> >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:25 PM >> >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> >Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! >> >> > >> >We weren't talking about 'on a regular basis', but someone being a >> >vegetarian and eating a hamburger. Does eating one >hamburger make you >> >not a vegetarian? I don't think so. >> > >> >Karen >> > >> >> Think it depends on why you are a veggie. I know a few veggies that >> would be very upset if they ever eat meat or animal products >ever again. > >Would they stop calling themselves vegetarians? > >Karen > Yes, if they eat the meat intentionally. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:06:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJ62kq009271 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:06:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBCF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:04:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:04:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5sBwkdzKoyR5vZijpsJ9q/H9Z6cA/lFu@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SIslI09165 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:54:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6AA3001D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E8E4C7C0A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:54:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A new word--Alyce, don't read! In-Reply-To: <3DBD8765.C03BACC3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 28, 2002 1:52:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:54:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028185446.E8E4C7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Webinar. > > > > This is way too ugly to live; I can only hope it dies a quick death. > > Why are you disseminating it? Misery loves company. > And what is it? Go ahead and say--I am > strong; I can take it. I'm assuming it's a seminar held over the web. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:11:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJBmkq009369 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:11:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409F9DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:10:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:10:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJ0dI10511 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:00:39 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9SJ0ZhA028010 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:00:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <1421120379260.20021028111546@gailndan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: > Even bread pudding? That's another dish I don't care for. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:15:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJFnkq009479 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:15:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FBE09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:14:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:14:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XbnsE0+vlHgoK6h7Ru0j2FpwmzKd5kud@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJ4dI11078 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:04:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B432FEA1 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8CF157C0C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBD4255.27750.1575036@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Oct 28, 2002 1:57:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:04:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028190438.8CF157C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > but eating a hamburger once doesn't mean that you'll ever want one again > I think it's silly (or at least not productive) to say that someone who normally doesn't > eat meat loses their status as a "vegetarian" from having tasted meat at all. I was > once in love with a woman, but that sure as hell doesn't make me straight. But it may make you pregnant! Ba-dum-bump... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:16:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJGTkq009547 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:16:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0409FA88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:15:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:15:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XTpr70WyvShyvk1HWhpqVTt5f9UWxAfT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJ5HI11348 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:05:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B012F2FEA1 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4DCF37C0E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 28, 2002 1:59:36 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028190516.4DCF37C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > CNN sez: Between 100,000 and 200,000 reserves will be called up starting > almost immediately. Some will be used for "homeland security" and others > will be trained to "occupy Iraq when the war is over." Is hubris unknown > to this administration? This so offends me that I barely can stand it. I heard this on the radio. Most of them are staying here, to guard from attack. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:19:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJJYkq009864 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:19:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FBE7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:18:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3016648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:18:24 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJIOI13994 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:18:24 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01373 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 14:17:42 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 14:17:37 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:17:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Message-ID: <3DBD46FE.27029.16982FB@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021028190438.8CF157C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DBD4255.27750.1575036@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Oct 28, 2002 1:57:43 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > but eating a hamburger once doesn't mean that you'll ever want one again > > I think it's silly (or at least not productive) to say that someone who normally doesn't > > eat meat loses their status as a "vegetarian" from having tasted meat at all. I was > > once in love with a woman, but that sure as hell doesn't make me straight. > > But it may make you pregnant! Ba-dum-bump... > > Karen nah, no pregnant for me - my future is only as a grandpregnant. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:22:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJMGkq010217 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:22:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FBED7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:21:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3016847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:21:06 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJL6I14517 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:21:06 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03054 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 14:21:04 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 14:20:08 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:20:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Message-ID: <3DBD4795.4765.16BD06C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <1421120379260.20021028111546@gailndan.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: > > > Even bread pudding? > > That's another dish I don't care for. > > Bethany Bread pudding is one of those things that, if it were available, I would eat - regardless of how full I already was. I am powerless in the presence of bread pudding. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:32:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJVxkq010375 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:31:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC001@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:30:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3017595 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:30:49 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f79.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.79]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJUnI16256 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:30:49 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:30:44 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:30:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:30:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 19:30:44.0011 (UTC) FILETIME=[8202F7B0:01C27EB8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" >regardless of how full I already was. I am powerless in the presence of >bread >pudding. I had pumpkin bread pudding on Friday. Yum! Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:33:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJXRkq010384 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:33:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FC028@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:32:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3017684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:32:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f121.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.121]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJWHI16472 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:32:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:32:10 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:32:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:32:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 19:32:10.0926 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5D124E0:01C27EB8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rashmi Murthy >I use celery, red onion, red bell pepper, parsley, grated >carrot (if I have it), celery salt and mayo. I usually make >it when I have the veges lying around. My tuna salad is >non-tuna-heavy and very colorful. I like it straight or >with TJ's mini-pita bread. I used to use red pepper, until *uc*. He's not a fan. Oh, the sacrifices... Marie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:39:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJdfkq010606 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:39:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FC0E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3017468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:38:31 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9SJSUI15893 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:28:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 12551 invoked by uid 0); 28 Oct 2002 19:28:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO redbox) (203.192.198.168) by mail.gmx.net (mp013-rz3) with SMTP; 28 Oct 2002 19:28:22 -0000 Message-ID: <002401c27eb8$fe07c700$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Mandar" To: "Word - L" Subject: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:03:55 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first dangled in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our anatomy. Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just as we were about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit intrigueing... Best, Red Ps:My first post. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:46:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJkZkq010649 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:46:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FC1AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:45:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3018574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:45:25 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJjPI18694 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:45:25 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17079 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 14:45:21 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 14:44:51 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:44:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Message-ID: <3DBD4D5A.32514.182591B@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <002401c27eb8$fe07c700$a8c6c0cb@redbox> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first dangled > in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to > demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our > anatomy. cite please was this from one of the messages I mass deleted? > > Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just as we were > about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our > consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit intrigueing... I think you have to read what happens in the next chapter - all the stuff about and all. > > Best, > Red Weere you here when we were all looking up the meanings of our names? > > Ps:My first post. welcome don't be shy BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:49:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJnikq010662 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:49:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC20E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:48:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3018740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:48:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f15.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJmYI19185 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:48:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:48:28 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:48:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 19:48:28.0975 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCC793F0:01C27EBA] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" > > And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first >dangled > > in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to > > demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our > > anatomy. > >cite please >was this from one of the messages I mass deleted? Maybe it was a post from JMW and we didn't understand it the first time either? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:53:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJrtkq010683 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:53:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC279@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:52:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3018876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:52:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJqiI19657 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:52:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-10.panax.com [65.114.190.10]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJqht32452 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:52:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028101155.00b531b8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:12:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: creme brulee In-Reply-To: <3DBD09EB.19583.600D57@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021027093428.00a08cc0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:56 AM 10/28/2002 -0500, BrP wrote: > > Bake in 300 degree oven for an hour. If they still seem rather liquidy > > after an hour (just giggle the pan) bake for another 15 minutes. > > >AHA! So, that's the secret! Yes, a little hilarity can work wonders... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:54:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJsCkq010687 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:54:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FC281@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:53:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3018897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:53:02 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJr2I19707 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:53:02 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:52:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD95E6.DCF5EAFC@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:54:14 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <20021028190516.4DCF37C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > I heard this on the radio. Most of them are staying here, to guard > from attack. To what extent can the reserves be used for domestic purposes? I suppose I can google for the posse comitatus act. Maybe I will. Are "the reserves" the same as the National Guard? Or different? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 13:57:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SJvskq010703 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:57:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC2D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3019056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:45 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJuiI20210 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:44 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SJuh49085967; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6ADA3F2; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Cc: "'Mandar'" Subject: RE: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:43 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <002401c27eb8$fe07c700$a8c6c0cb@redbox> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mandar >Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:34 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: > > >And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple >first dangled >in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to >demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our >anatomy. > >Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just >as we were >about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our >consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit >intrigueing... > >Best, >Red > >Ps:My first post. > Welcome and enjoy the list. alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu "Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of magic." - Arthur C. Clarke From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:04:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SK46kq010745 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:04:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC389@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:02:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3018880 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:02:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:m3JAH2frnRUg9zY5tCfsTZtg49UEey9O@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJqtI19676 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:52:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B052FDEC for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 871E57C0F; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:52:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBD46FE.27029.16982FB@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Oct 28, 2002 2:17:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:52:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028195254.871E57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > but eating a hamburger once doesn't mean that you'll ever want one again > > > I think it's silly (or at least not productive) to say that someone who normally doesn't > > > eat meat loses their status as a "vegetarian" from having tasted meat at all. I was > > > once in love with a woman, but that sure as hell doesn't make me straight. > > > > But it may make you pregnant! Ba-dum-bump... > > > > Karen > > nah, no pregnant for me - my future is only as a grandpregnant. :) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:08:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SK80kq010757 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:08:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A009A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:06:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3019063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:06:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:E89Q+muxCmRSuEA86LJI/8g6yxs0SUlF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SJulI20219 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B662FF87 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ABC0C7C0E; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBD95E6.DCF5EAFC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 28, 2002 2:54:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 11:56:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021028195646.ABC0C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I heard this on the radio. Most of them are staying here, to guard > > from attack. > > To what extent can the reserves be used for domestic purposes? My brother is guarding prisoners in D.C. Stuff like that--guarding dams and airports. > I suppose > I can google for the posse comitatus act. Maybe I will. Are "the > reserves" the same as the National Guard? Or different? Different, I think, but I'm not an expert. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SK96kq010765 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC444@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:07:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:07:56 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SK7tI22488 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:07:55 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:07:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD9963.AC442737@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:09:07 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bibliomania Subject: Posse comitatus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, I looked up posse comitatus. Here is a good site: http://www.dojgov.net/posse_comitatus_act.htm and this is dandy, showing some interesting Executive Orders that have been passed over the years: http://www.dojgov.net/shadow_government.htm -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:15:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKFXkq010824 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:15:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A01A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:14:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020919 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:14:19 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKEJI23657 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:14:19 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:14:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBD9ADC.449A9A3B@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:15:24 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <20021028195646.ABC0C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > > My brother is guarding prisoners in D.C. Stuff like that--guarding > dams and airports. And he is in the reserves? Not National Guard? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:18:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKIjkq011033 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:18:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FC557@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:17:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:17:35 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9SK7ZI22453 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:07:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 2240 invoked by uid 417); 28 Oct 2002 20:07:34 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2002 20:07:34 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:07:32 -0700 Message-ID: <001601c27ebe$762de340$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Mandar" To: "Word - L" Subject: Consolidated grandmother... Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:43:17 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ....And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first dangled in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our anatomy..... Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just as we were about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit intrigueing... Best, Red Ps:My first post. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:19:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKJtkq011041 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:19:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC576@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:18:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3021150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:18:45 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9SKIiI24337 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:18:44 -0500 Received: (qmail 13211 invoked by uid 417); 28 Oct 2002 20:18:44 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2002 20:18:44 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:18:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Mandar" To: "Word - L" Subject: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:52:08 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ignore the consolidated grandmother post. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:31:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKV3kq011374 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:31:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FC6A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:29:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3021632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:29:53 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKTrI25876 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:29:53 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021028202943.DIRE13658.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:29:43 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122301.029d7df0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:29:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <20021028190516.4DCF37C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here's an article about it: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/28/international/middleeast/28MILI.html Just based on the weather, "The best time for combat in the desert is between December and March...." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:31:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKVZkq011378 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:31:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A02E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:30:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3021241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:30:25 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKKOI24608 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:20:24 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKKMc02584 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:20:22 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SKKNRG000909 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:20:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028123548.00a4d860@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:36:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: The devil made me do it In-Reply-To: <3DBD7B23.7A5DEB13@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:00 AM 10/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: >bonniev wrote: > > > >Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern > > > > > >Never heard that till this moment. I heart deviled eggs. > > >alyce > > > > Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has > veggies in it. > > The hardest part about shopping at Albertsons is that they have > deviled-egg >trays. Every time I walk past them the little three-inch me with the >horns and the >tail that sits on that shoulder jabs me with his pitchfork. I think Neal helped Janet make them at her house during WordQuake. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:41:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKfCkq011664 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:41:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A049D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:39:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:39:39 -0500 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKdcI27785 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:39:38 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00LGFLE14A@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:39:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 12:42:07 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: The devil made me do it In-reply-to: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028123548.00a4d860@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.1.5.2.20021028123548.00a4d860@uclink.berkeley.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >At 11:00 AM 10/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: >>bonniev wrote: >> >>> >Natalie Maynor wrote: >>> > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern >>> > >>> >Never heard that till this moment. I heart deviled eggs. >>> >alyce >>> >>> Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has >>veggies in it. >> >> The hardest part about shopping at Albertsons is that they have >>deviled-egg >>trays. Every time I walk past them the little three-inch me with the >>horns and the >>tail that sits on that shoulder jabs me with his pitchfork. > >I think Neal helped Janet make them at her house during WordQuake. Rashmi did too. They were gooood. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:46:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKkukq011824 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:46:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A056A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:45:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:45:46 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKjjI29083 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:45:45 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1F31CF0298; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:45:39 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:47:24 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1461129477843.20021028134724@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 11:24 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> Huh? Someone who eats hamburger on a regular basis is >> no vegetarian however you stretch the definition. It's >> the binariness that makes it comparable to pregnancy. KK> We weren't talking about 'on a regular basis', but someone being a KK> vegetarian and eating a hamburger. Does eating one hamburger make you KK> not a vegetarian? I don't think so. I think it makes you a nonvegetarian. You either are or aren't. I'm either clean and sober or I'm not. etc. etc. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:47:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKlskq011948 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:47:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FC8D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKkhI29175 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A22FD70278; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:39 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:48:24 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <321129537559.20021028134824@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: A new word--Alyce, don't read! In-Reply-To: <20021028183723.084067C1A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021028183723.084067C1A@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 11:37 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Webinar. KK> This is way too ugly to live; I can only hope it dies a quick death. They'll probably put the proceedings or notes or transcripts from it in their current webliography. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:47:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKlwkq011951 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:47:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A0585@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:48 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKklI29185 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:48 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ACL73757; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EAJ42090; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:46:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:44:09 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: call up the reserves Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DBD14F9.3500.5EC631@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 28 Oct 2002 at 13:59, alyce cresap wrote: > CNN sez: Between 100,000 and 200,000 reserves will be called up starting > almost immediately. Some will be used for "homeland security" and others > will be trained to "occupy Iraq when the war is over." Can the draft be far behind? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:50:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKoQkq011959 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:50:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FC910@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:49:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:49:16 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKnFI29510 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:49:15 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9SKnEj00295 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:49:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002901c27ec3$b60e2ce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DBD9963.AC442737@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Posse comitatus Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:50:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "alyce cresap" To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Posse comitatus > Well, I looked up posse comitatus. > Here is a good site: > http://www.dojgov.net/posse_comitatus_act.htm > > and this is dandy, showing some interesting Executive Orders that have > been passed over the years: > http://www.dojgov.net/shadow_government.htm > -- > alyce > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:51:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKphkq011969 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:51:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A05E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:50:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:50:33 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKoWI29702 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:50:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PLSL02.2T6 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDA41D.463D020B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:54:53 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028132042.00a0b650@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I was thinking that maybe the crazy woman that scared you in the library > did it. We keep renewing the restraining order but we all know how bullet-proof those are. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:53:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKrLkq012006 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:53:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FC961@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:52:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:52:10 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKqAI29884 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:52:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9SKq8j04098 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:52:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002e01c27ec4$1dd6c760$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DBD9963.AC442737@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Posse comitatus Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:53:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > and this is dandy, showing some interesting Executive Orders that have > been passed over the years: > http://www.dojgov.net/shadow_government.htm > -- > alyce If you don't have time to look it up and read it, here is an excerpt which will give you a bit of the flavor of it. Speaking of an underground back-up government, it says: "The core group of federal managers would be drawn from the same bureaucratic minions whose self pre-occupation, negligence and apathy caused the deaths of thousands in the World Trade Center. " - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 14:54:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SKsgkq012017 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:54:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FC98B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:53:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:53:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SKrHI30048 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:53:17 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PLX600.MQS for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:51:06 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDA4C2.5CC37E82@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:57:38 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: References: <002401c27eb8$fe07c700$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mandar wrote: > And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first dangled > in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to > demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our > anatomy. > > Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just as we were > about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our > consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit intrigueing... Because the drugs wore off just enough for him to realize that without it the sentence would be TOTAL gibbersih. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:02:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SL2bkq012316 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:02:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FCA71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:01:27 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SL1PI31167 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:01:25 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A5A122302A0; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:01:21 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:03:06 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <551130419317.20021028140306@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBD4255.27750.1575036@localhost> References: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBD4255.27750.1575036@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 11:57 AM, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: PRB> but eating a hamburger once doesn't mean that you'll ever want one again PRB> I think it's silly (or at least not productive) to say that someone who normally doesn't PRB> eat meat loses their status as a "vegetarian" from having tasted meat at all. I was PRB> once in love with a woman, but that sure as hell doesn't make me straight. Yah, but.... it is generally accepted that there are varying degrees of straight/bi/gay. If you're identifying as gay now (as opposed to bi), then if you were to hit the sack with a woman, I'd say you weren't gay, but bi. None of this is in any way a value judgment of the goodness of being gay, veggie, or anything else. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:04:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SL4Lkq012453 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:04:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FCAA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SL39I31593 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDA64F.F2FDA137@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:04:15 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD14F9.3500.5EC631@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > > Can the draft be far behind? No. That was going to be my next post. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:04:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SL4kkq012579 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:04:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FCAB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:35 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SL3ZI31627 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:35 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A61F11E0250; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:03:27 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:05:12 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, don't see it on their webpage yet, some two or more hours later. Maybe I need to look under the sports section. 10/28/2002, 11:59 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> CNN sez: Between 100,000 and 200,000 reserves will be called up starting ac> almost immediately. Some will be used for "homeland security" and others ac> will be trained to "occupy Iraq when the war is over." Is hubris unknown ac> to this administration? This so offends me that I barely can stand it. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:07:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SL7gkq012591 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:07:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A081E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:06:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:06:31 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SL6VI32009 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:06:31 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:06:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:07:35 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > Well, don't see it on their webpage yet, some two or more hours later. > Then read the NYTimes. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:09:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SL9Xkq012867 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:09:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A0853@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:22 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SL8KI32259 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:22 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A73FE2028C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:15 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:10:01 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <831130834183.20021028141001@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Posse comitatus In-Reply-To: <002e01c27ec4$1dd6c760$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <3DBD9963.AC442737@valstar.net> <002e01c27ec4$1dd6c760$9d0332d1@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 1:53 PM, Doris Markland wrote: DM> "The core group of federal managers would be DM> drawn from the same bureaucratic minions whose DM> self pre-occupation, negligence and apathy caused DM> the deaths of thousands in the World Trade Center. " Talk about nonsensical bullshit.... -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:09:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SL9Xkq012870 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:09:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FCB42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025586 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:23 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SL8MI32271 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:23 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:08:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:09:19 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: San Francisco rally Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Mercury said: > >Organizers said from 80,000 to 100,000 people took part in the march and >rally at City Hall. San Francisco police gave a preliminary estimate of >42,000. Similar demonstrations drew crowds in Berlin, Rome, Copenhagen, >Stockholm, Mexico City and Tokyo. A second major U.S. rally drew about >100,000 in Washington, D.C. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:10:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLAbkq012876 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FCB5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:09:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:09:27 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SL9PI32413 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:09:25 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A77DB60274; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:09:17 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:10:59 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 2:07 PM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Dan Lester wrote: >> >> Well, don't see it on their webpage yet, some two or more hours later. >> ac> Then read the NYTimes. I don't mess with no freeekin passwords and all that crap. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:11:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLBwkq013009 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:11:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FCB76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:10:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:10:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLAmI32579 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:10:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:10:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDA817.D96812D@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:11:51 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Posse comitatus References: <3DBD9963.AC442737@valstar.net> <002e01c27ec4$1dd6c760$9d0332d1@0018079268> <831130834183.20021028141001@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > Talk about nonsensical bullshit.... I did not post it for the editorial opinion, but for an explanation of the permitted uses of the reserves within the US. That is clearly on the site. Also, it was the first reference I came to. alyce > > -- -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:15:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLExkq013400 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:15:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FCBB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:13:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:13:46 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLDjI00994 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:13:45 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07750 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 16:13:12 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 16:12:40 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:12:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Message-ID: <3DBD61F1.7396.1D2C9F6@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <551130419317.20021028140306@gailndan.com> References: <3DBD4255.27750.1575036@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Dan Yabbuts: > it is generally accepted that there are varying > degrees of straight/bi/gay. If you're identifying as gay now (as > opposed to bi), then if you were to hit the sack with a woman, > I'd say you weren't gay, but bi. > > None of this is in any way a value judgment of the goodness of > being gay, veggie, or anything else. My point is that categories such as gay, or veggie, are a matter of self-identification. If someone says "I'm a vegetarian" that's proof enough for me and I don't give a burger if they ever ate meat. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:15:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLFlkq013552 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:15:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A0901@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:14:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:14:33 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLEWI01089 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:14:33 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A8B31850276; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:14:27 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:16:12 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So you can pick a number from 42K to 100K, depending on who you want to convince of what. I'd tend to believe the cops. 10/28/2002, 2:09 PM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> The Mercury said: >> >>Organizers said from 80,000 to 100,000 people took part in the march and >>rally at City Hall. San Francisco police gave a preliminary estimate of >>42,000. Similar demonstrations drew crowds in Berlin, Rome, Copenhagen, >>Stockholm, Mexico City and Tokyo. A second major U.S. rally drew about >>100,000 in Washington, D.C. ac> -- ac> alyce -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:19:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLJAkq013643 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:19:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A095C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:18:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:17:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLHxI01658 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:17:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-174.panax.com [63.163.42.174]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLHwt18304 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:17:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028161656.009fbb80@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:17:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBD61F1.7396.1D2C9F6@localhost> References: <551130419317.20021028140306@gailndan.com> <3DBD4255.27750.1575036@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >My point is that categories such as gay, or veggie, are a matter of >self-identification. >If someone says "I'm a vegetarian" that's proof enough for me and I don't >give a >burger if they ever ate meat. --BrP Yeah, right. And I can say I'm purple. But that doesn't make it so. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:21:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLLWkq013654 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:21:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FCC6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:20:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:20:22 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLKII01988 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:20:20 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:20:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:21:16 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > I'd tend to believe the cops. No kidding. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:23:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLNlkq013669 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:23:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FCCA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:22:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:22:36 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLMaI02354 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:22:36 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:12:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDA86A.C9AA392A@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:13:14 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > I don't mess with no freeekin passwords and all that crap. OK. Then rely on CNN, which is frequently unreliable, and often downright incorrect. I have a NYT password, but I never have to enter it. I just go there and I am in. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:24:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLOXkq013678 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:24:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A09EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:23:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:23:22 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLNMI02580 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:23:22 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13529 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 16:23:16 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 28 Oct 02 16:22:35 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:22:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Message-ID: <3DBD6446.24998.1DBE3DF@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028161656.009fbb80@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DBD61F1.7396.1D2C9F6@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >My point is that categories such as gay, or veggie, are a matter of > >self-identification. > >If someone says "I'm a vegetarian" that's proof enough for me and I don't > >give a > >burger if they ever ate meat. --BrP > > Yeah, right. And I can say I'm purple. But that doesn't make it so. > > > --bonniev If you say it loud enough it might. Some categories have parameters that are more strictly defined. To me, "vegetarian" means "I choose not to eat meat" To you, it obviously means "I have never eaten meat." BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:30:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLUCkq013820 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:30:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A0A96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:29:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:29:01 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLT1I03787 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:29:01 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-174.panax.com [63.163.42.174]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLSpt20829 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:28:51 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028162745.009e2480@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:28:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBD6446.24998.1DBE3DF@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028161656.009fbb80@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBD61F1.7396.1D2C9F6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Some categories have parameters that are more strictly defined. To me, >"vegetarian" means "I choose not to eat meat" To you, it obviously means >"I have >never eaten meat." --BrP At the very least it means "I am committed to not eating meat." It certainly does not mean "Most of the time, I don't eat meat." --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:41:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLfVkq014025 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:41:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FCE86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:40:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:40:20 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLeJI06030 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:40:19 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PO3K00.9SE for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:38:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDAF42.6F3DA250@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:42:26 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> <3DBDA86A.C9AA392A@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > > > I don't mess with no freeekin passwords and all that crap. > > OK. Then rely on CNN, which is frequently unreliable, and often > downright incorrect. I have a NYT password, but I never have to enter > it. I just go there and I am in. And, in keeping with "keeping track of who reads what", why do you think that is? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:47:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLllkq014091 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:47:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A0C64@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:35 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLkZI06775 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:35 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4POE003.4QW for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:44:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDB0BE.4782451A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:48:46 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD14F9.3500.5EC631@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > Can the draft be far behind? And in keeping with the spirit of affirmative action only females will be subject to it for the first 80 years or so. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:48:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLm5kq014095 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:48:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FCF25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:54 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLksI06924 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:54 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SLkr49105052 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from isc.upenn.edu (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A0DA75D for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3DBDB04D.40007@isc.upenn.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:46:53 -0500 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-l Subject: School Rankings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From Netscape's home page: Don't know the validity of the data. ----- Worst Schools? The Dumbest State Is... ...New Mexico. And the smartest is Connecticut. These are the findings of the Education State Rankings, a survey by Morgan Quitno Press of the educational systems in all 50 states. Using 21 factors that included a strong commitment to students and teachers, an emphasis on excellence in the classroom, and support of safe, well-run public schools, Morgan Quitno Press, an independent private research and publishing company, ranked the states for their educational quality based on how they compare to the national average. This report card isn't good. How does YOUR state rank? 1. Connecticut 2. Vermont 3. Montana 4. New Jersey 5. Maine 6. Wisconsin 7. Massachusetts 8. Wyoming 9. Indiana 10. Rhode Island 11. Iowa 12. Minnesota 13. Nebraska 14. Kansas 15. Pennsylvania 16. Texas 17. Utah 18. West Virginia 19. New Hampshire 20. Michigan 21. North Dakota 22. Idaho 23. Oregon 24. North Carolina 25. Alaska 26. New York 27. Colorado 28. Kentucky 29. California 30. Maryland 31. Missouri 32. Oklahoma 33. Illinois 34. South Dakota 35. Washington 36. South Carolina 37. Virginia 38. Arkansas 39. Tennessee 40. Georgia 41. Alabama (tie) 41. Ohio (tie) 43. Delaware 44. Arizona 45. Hawaii 46. Nevada 47. Florida 48. Mississippi 49. Louisiana 50. New Mexico -- ------ Alec D. Plotkin ‘‘Never could any increase of comfort or security be a sufficient good to be bought at the price of liberty.’’ - Hilaire Belloc From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:50:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLofkq014124 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:50:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FCF92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:49:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:49:30 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLnTI08175 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:49:30 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4POIU03.1SU for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:47:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDB163.1BF6A972@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:51:31 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > The Mercury said: > > > >Organizers said from 80,000 to 100,000 people took part in the march and > >rally at City Hall. San Francisco police gave a preliminary estimate of > >42,000. Similar demonstrations drew crowds in Berlin, Rome, Copenhagen, > >Stockholm, Mexico City and Tokyo. A second major U.S. rally drew about > >100,000 in Washington, D.C. Why is it we have peace rallies and the other guys have "Death to America" rallies? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:51:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLpFkq014131 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:51:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FCF9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:50:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:50:04 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLo3I08286 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:50:03 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A106E402A4; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:49:58 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:51:43 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1841133336802.20021028145143@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 2:21 PM, alyce cresap wrote: >> >> I'd tend to believe the cops. ac> No kidding. I know. You'd tend to believe the promoters. I'd say the cops are relatively disinterested in giving anything other than accurate numbers. I'm sure some cops would support going into Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be called up, or their kids, etc. Actually, it would be to the cops benefit to have a bigger number, as then their reports could show how great they did with this giant crowd, how come they needed more on overtime, etc. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:52:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLqukq014140 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:52:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A0D86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:51:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:51:45 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLphI08538 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:51:43 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4POMJ00.6QD for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:49:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDB1F1.FEE1B6AE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:53:53 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Posse comitatus References: <3DBD9963.AC442737@valstar.net> <002e01c27ec4$1dd6c760$9d0332d1@0018079268> <831130834183.20021028141001@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > 10/28/2002, 1:53 PM, Doris Markland wrote: > > DM> "The core group of federal managers would be > DM> drawn from the same bureaucratic minions whose > DM> self pre-occupation, negligence and apathy caused > DM> the deaths of thousands in the World Trade Center. " > > Talk about nonsensical bullshit.... Yabbut, its kinda funny watching the black helicopters flying over the other guy's houses for a change. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:53:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLrOkq014151 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:53:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A0D93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:52:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:52:13 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLqDI08646 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:52:13 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1881A30288; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:52:08 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:53:53 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1701133466688.20021028145353@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBD6446.24998.1DBE3DF@localhost> References: <3DBD61F1.7396.1D2C9F6@localhost> <3DBD6446.24998.1DBE3DF@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 2:22 PM, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: PRB> Some categories have parameters that are more strictly defined. To me, PRB> "vegetarian" means "I choose not to eat meat" To you, it obviously means "I have PRB> never eaten meat." I don't think so. Any more than you, or another friend who was once married aren't gay. My friend is still gay, and has always known he was gay. He tried to meet standards of forty years ago and did the woman thing for twenty years before giving it up. Yes, he's gay. So is someone who doesn't eat meat a vegetarian, at least until they start eating meat. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:54:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLsLkq014157 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:54:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FCFC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:53:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029513 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:53:10 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLrAI08909 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:53:10 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1C11E0016C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:53:05 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:54:50 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1421133523700.20021028145450@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBDAF42.6F3DA250@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> <3DBDA86A.C9AA392A@valstar.net> <3DBDAF42.6F3DA250@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 2:42 PM, John Williams wrote: JW> alyce cresap wrote: >> Dan Lester wrote: >> > >> > I don't mess with no freeekin passwords and all that crap. >> >> OK. Then rely on CNN, which is frequently unreliable, and often >> downright incorrect. I have a NYT password, but I never have to enter >> it. I just go there and I am in. JW> And, in keeping with "keeping track of who reads what", why do you JW> think that is? Exactly. They know what she reads, what ads, if any, she clicks on, how long she's on a page, and so forth. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 15:55:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SLtOkq014172 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:55:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FCFD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:54:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:54:14 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLsCI09116 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:54:13 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1FF152023A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:54:07 EST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:55:52 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1471133585820.20021028145552@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: School Rankings In-Reply-To: <3DBDB04D.40007@isc.upenn.edu> References: <3DBDB04D.40007@isc.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dave Barry did a piece this past week based on this data. He talks about how Florida should NOT be #47, but #50. dan 10/28/2002, 2:46 PM, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: ADP> From Netscape's home page: ADP> Don't know the validity of the data. ADP> ----- ADP> Worst Schools? The Dumbest State Is... ADP> ...New Mexico. And the smartest is Connecticut. ADP> These are the findings of the Education State Rankings, a survey by ADP> Morgan Quitno Press of the educational systems in all 50 states. Using ADP> 21 factors that included a strong commitment to students and teachers, ADP> an emphasis on excellence in the classroom, and support of safe, ADP> well-run public schools, Morgan Quitno Press, an independent private ADP> research and publishing company, ranked the states for their educational ADP> quality based on how they compare to the national average. ADP> This report card isn't good. ADP> How does YOUR state rank? ADP> 1. Connecticut ADP> 2. Vermont ADP> 3. Montana ADP> 4. New Jersey ADP> 5. Maine ADP> 6. Wisconsin ADP> 7. Massachusetts ADP> 8. Wyoming ADP> 9. Indiana ADP> 10. Rhode Island ADP> 11. Iowa ADP> 12. Minnesota ADP> 13. Nebraska ADP> 14. Kansas ADP> 15. Pennsylvania ADP> 16. Texas ADP> 17. Utah ADP> 18. West Virginia ADP> 19. New Hampshire ADP> 20. Michigan ADP> 21. North Dakota ADP> 22. Idaho ADP> 23. Oregon ADP> 24. North Carolina ADP> 25. Alaska ADP> 26. New York ADP> 27. Colorado ADP> 28. Kentucky ADP> 29. California ADP> 30. Maryland ADP> 31. Missouri ADP> 32. Oklahoma ADP> 33. Illinois ADP> 34. South Dakota ADP> 35. Washington ADP> 36. South Carolina ADP> 37. Virginia ADP> 38. Arkansas ADP> 39. Tennessee ADP> 40. Georgia ADP> 41. Alabama (tie) ADP> 41. Ohio (tie) ADP> 43. Delaware ADP> 44. Arizona ADP> 45. Hawaii ADP> 46. Nevada ADP> 47. Florida ADP> 48. Mississippi ADP> 49. Louisiana ADP> 50. New Mexico ADP> -- ADP> ------ ADP> Alec D. Plotkin ADP> ‘‘Never could any increase of comfort or security be a sufficient good ADP> to be bought at the price of liberty.’’ ADP> - Hilaire Belloc -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:00:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SM0hkq014239 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:00:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FD02A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:59:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3030297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:59:32 -0500 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SLxWI10140 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:59:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00LIFP373K@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 13:59:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:02:02 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: San Francisco rally In-reply-to: <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So you can pick a number from 42K to 100K, depending on who you want >to convince of what. I'd tend to believe the cops. An acquaintance of mine who was there says his nose count made it out as 50,000-60,000. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:04:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SM4Zkq014266 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:04:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD110@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:03:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3031382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:03:20 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SM3JI11138 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:03:19 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PP5W01.ARD for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:01:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDB4A9.17E9DD0B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:05:29 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: [Fwd: perhaps interesting to some] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >http://www.taliesin-arlein.net/names/search.php To absolutely no-one's surprise Williams comes in #3 with 380,379, and Jones #2 with 538,874. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:24:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMOdkq014545 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:24:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A12A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:23:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3032375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:23:28 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMDRI12761 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:13:27 -0500 Received: from graphics (host-216-153-217-51.spr.choiceone.net [216.153.217.51]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9SMDRm20571 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:13:27 -0500 x-esmtp: 0 0 1 Message-ID: <21020316-2200210128221729360@magmedix.com> X-EM-Version: 6, 0, 1, 2 X-EM-Registration: #0080630D10961B00AC30 X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: "MED-VU@magmedix.com" From: "MED-VU" To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu Subject: MED-VU VOL: 1 ISSUE: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:17:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SMTPExp-Version: 1, 0, 2, 13 X-SMTPExp-Registration: 0000330D10920D008B35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso8859-1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MED-SCAN: medical diagnostic community newsletter : Oct. 2002 Volume 1 Issue 1 Sponsor: Magmedix 1-866-646-3349 www.magmedix.com Products For MRI Facilities Welcome to MED-SCAN. 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Main Street :: Gardner, MA 01440 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:26:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMPxkq014680 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:25:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A12C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:24:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:24:48 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMOmI14089 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:24:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:24:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDB96D.BF1AE167@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:25:49 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> <3DBDA86A.C9AA392A@valstar.net> <3DBDAF42.6F3DA250@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > And, in keeping with "keeping track of who reads what", why do you > think that is? I imagine it is the cookie monster. It always surprises me, though, because I go to the Times only when somebody gives a link, which is maybe twice a year. And then I think, "What? They didn't forget me yet?" alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:31:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMVokq015241 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:31:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FD42C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:30:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033426 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:30:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMUdI14885 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:30:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:30:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDBACB.79F47904@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:31:39 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD14F9.3500.5EC631@localhost> <3DBDB0BE.4782451A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > And in keeping with the spirit of affirmative action only females will be > subject to it for the first 80 years or so. Certainly women should be included. Never have thought otherwise. But maybe not **only.** Just wondering--Would you trust an army of only women to protect you? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:33:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMXBkq015251 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:33:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD449@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:32:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:32:00 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMW0I15044 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:32:00 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:32:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDBB1D.E5E6E72C@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:33:01 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <1841133336802.20021028145143@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > I know. You'd tend to believe the promoters. Not really. Usually I split the difference when there are police v. organizers numbers. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:34:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMYOkq015258 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:34:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD466@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:33:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:33:13 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMXDI15181 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:33:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.91]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028223452.DTXA3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDBB1F.3CF96F82@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:33:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> <521104492506.20021028065059@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > NM> There are, of course, many days when I guess you could say > NM> I am a vegetarian since there are many days when I don't consume dead > NM> animals of any kind. > > I thought one was either a vegetarian (of whichever variety one > chooses) or one wasn't. Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like > being sort of pregnant? I didn't say "sort of a vegetarian." I've known lots of people who have said that they were vegetarians at certain times in their lives. That might be like being pregnant since one isn't pregnant forever, but it's not about "sort of." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:35:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMZLkq015268 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:35:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD479@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:34:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:34:10 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMYAI15268 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:34:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:34:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDBB9F.64B354DD@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:35:11 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> <3DBDA86A.C9AA392A@valstar.net> <3DBDAF42.6F3DA250@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <1421133523700.20021028145450@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > Exactly. They know what she reads, what ads, if any, she clicks on, > how long she's on a page, and so forth. They won't know much. I just read Pete's link and the other day I read the 88-mile bookshelves article. No ads, no other clicks. Those are the first times I've been to the TImes in months. alyce > > -- -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:40:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMeIkq015502 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:40:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1451@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:39:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3034169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:39:07 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMd7I15932 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:39:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.143]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028224046.MIUO27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:40:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDBC82.AF4D5908@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:38:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <20021028135739.921A67C25@yellow.rahul.net> <371105771114.20021028071218@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > I know there are many types. I think I indicated that in the > post. But whatever type you are. Spose you're a vegan and then > one day eat a hamburger. Are you still a vegan? I don't think > so. What if you're pregnant and then one day give birth. Are you still pregnant? I don't think so. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:44:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMiHkq015594 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:44:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FD545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:43:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3034393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:43:06 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMh6I16434 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:43:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.143]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028224445.MMCG27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:44:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:42:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I know of no vegetarians who eat > meat on some days of the week. I do. Or at least I used to. Haven't seen him in many, many years. A Seventh-Day Adventist I was in grad school with was a vegetarian except for eating a hamburger for lunch every Friday. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:47:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMlekq015706 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:47:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD585@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:46:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3034607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:46:29 -0500 Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMkTI16868 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:46:29 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00LLBR9G3Y@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:46:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:48:58 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-reply-to: <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: >> I know of no vegetarians who eat >> meat on some days of the week. > >I do. Or at least I used to. Haven't seen him in many, many years. A >Seventh-Day Adventist I was in grad school with was a vegetarian except >for eating a hamburger for lunch every Friday. Miles's girlfriend Kristine is a vegetarian but very occasionally will nibble on a few bites of meat. With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has never even tried to be vegetarian. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:57:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMvikq016875 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:57:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A15F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:56:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3035395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:56:33 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMuWI18094 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:56:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.30]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028225811.SRKJ23449.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:58:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDC097.8C40116D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:56:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <14e.16895776.2aee9beb@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095131.00a044d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I can't imagine going to Japan and eating egg salad every day when > >there's so much else to eat! > >Karen > > Even I, who hates strange food, agree with this. It makes me wonder about > all of Natalie's travels and how much she "took in". Took into my stomach? I realize that food is some people's top priority when traveling. It's far from mine. I had ample Japanese-food-eating occasions -- like almost every time I went out to eat with friends, plus eating soba noodles almost every night. Japanese food in general is way down my list of favorites. I much prefer Chinese -- of all varieties (except that godawful sludge I ate in Beijing). Italian is at the top for me. I tend to find Italian restaurants when traveling anywhere in Europe. I forgot to mention that I love certain Korean food also. One of the best meals of my life was in a tiny hole-in-the-wall place not terribly far from where I lived in Tokyo -- a Korean place owned by a friend of a friend of mine. And back to the subject of Japanese food -- I did love almost everything that particular friend of mine cooked. She's a great cook. But it was at her house that I couldn't make myself eat the largish fish head. And suddenly I'm reminded that I also like Thai food. I can't remember now what Thai food I've eaten in Thailand -- I have no food memories at all of Thailand -- wait -- I do have one -- it was the last night of my first trip to Thailand -- I was back in Bangkok after having gone up to Chiang Mai, and I had squid pizza. Anyway, I do remember a great Thai meal in a Thai restuarant in Beijing the night after I had eaten the Chinese sludge/slug/whatever. Bottom line, though, is that food is not what I'm most interested in when traveling. I consider food fuel to keep me moving. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:58:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SMwCkq016879 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:58:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD660@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:57:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3035459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:57:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f5.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMv1I18215 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:57:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:56:55 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:56:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:56:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Oct 2002 22:56:55.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FFE60C0:01C27ED5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Janet Hardy >With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has >never even tried to be vegetarian. Nah. You can at least add me, although I'm pretty sure you'll be receiving other similar responses. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:00:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SN0pkq017049 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:00:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FD697@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3035728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:35 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMxZI18603 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:35 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-156.panax.com [63.163.41.156]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SMxXt08508 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028175742.00a0c070@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I do. Or at least I used to. Haven't seen him in many, many years. A >Seventh-Day Adventist I was in grad school with was a vegetarian except >for eating a hamburger for lunch every Friday. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) How nice for him. Paul would accept that. As long as the guy thought of himself as a vegetarian, he was a vegetarian. Moral standards, reality checks, and the meaning of language be damned. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:03:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SN3Ekq017186 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:03:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD6F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:02:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3036211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:02:03 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SN22I19146 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:02:02 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-156.panax.com [63.163.41.156]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SN21t08968 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:02:01 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028175941.00a13ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:01:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: References: <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Miles's girlfriend Kristine is a vegetarian but very occasionally >will nibble on a few bites of meat. The friend we visited in Vermont was a vegetarian. When she was pregnant, she craved protein. Now she has two children, the second of which is still nursing. She eats meat. But she no longer calls herself a vegetarian. >With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has >never even tried to be vegetarian. --Janet You know me. I took an animal rights class and was one of the few who didn't give up eating meat. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:05:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SN5Jkq017329 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:05:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FD717@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:04:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3036326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:04:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SN46I19447 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:04:06 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-156.panax.com [63.163.41.156]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SN45t09364 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:04:05 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:03:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <1841133336802.20021028145143@gailndan.com> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I'm sure some cops would support going into > Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be > called up, or their kids, etc. This strikes me as the stupidest reason in the world to be against war. The other side of the coin would be equally absurd: "I'm for war in Iraq because neither I nor anyone I love is likely to have to go over there and fight." Either the war is justified or it isn't. The fact that people will die has nothing to do with that. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:08:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SN8Xkq017390 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:08:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A176C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:07:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3036492 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:07:22 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SN7MI19829 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:07:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028230900.TACD23449.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:09:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDC320.AEDE283C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:07:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021028150816.E4A467C1F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > >Well, my point of view is that I consume enough calories as it is, > >without forcing down bad or unwanted food. > > Bingo. I fail to see how eating food you don't want or need is > anything but a "waste." It's imho if you were in control of how much food is on your plate -- like at a buffet or in your own house or whatever. But often you have no control -- like in most restaurants these days, with their absurdly large servings. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:12:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNC6kq019415 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:12:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FD786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:10:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3036667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:10:54 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNAsI20233 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:10:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028231233.TDAP23449.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDC3F7.A697FE2@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:10:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I also do not like > rice pudding - except in Greece, where they have figured out how to reduce > the rice to a smooth puree so that it is not grainy. The MSU cafeteria makes wonderful rice pudding. They don't have it all that often, but I love it when they do have it. Good bread pudding also -- which they seem to have much more often than rice pudding. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:22:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNMCkq020316 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:22:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FD882@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:01 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNL1I21331 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.74]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028232239.GCZJ3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:22:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDC653.C86F3158@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:20:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBD6052.9056663F@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > What is the difference between mayonnaise and Miracle Whip? > My mother used the latter. We had it on sandwiches. One side butter, the > other side mayonnaise. One or the other is needed for potato salad, > surely? I don't know about potato salad, but I do find the idea of butter and mayonnaise together way weird -- as well as the idea of butter on any kind of sandwich. (I love butter, I should add. But I've never heard of puttting it on a sandwich.) I almost forgot to report that I asked at lunch today whether anybody had ever heard of a connection between Southerners and mayonnaise. Nobody had. But it was a very small group today -- two New Orleans natives, one upstate-NY native, one native of Utah (but not a Mormon -- she's Jewish -- I think I forgot her when I was tallying religions yesterday), one Indianian, and me. All of these people have lived here for a long time now -- iow, they're not . The Utah person said that she thought more mayonnaise was consumed in that part of the country than in the South. The others said that they'd never noticed where mayonnaise was consumed but certainly didn't think it was a Southern thing. One of the New Orleans natives always uses mustard for salad dressing, btw. She creates beautiful salads at the cafeteria's salad bar and then dribbles mustard on them. I find that unusual. Not really . Just odd. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:26:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNQOkq020720 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:26:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FD8C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:12 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNPCI21706 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.74]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028232651.GHYZ3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:26:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDC751.69C83E1A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:25:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > (Of course, if one has a dog, no food goes to waste, > ever.) That depends. Some people are adamant about not letting their dogs have table scraps. Since I almost never have scraps, that's not a worry for me. (I would not be adamant about it, though. Unless a dog is overweight or the scraps are a regular thing, I see nothing wrong with giving them to a dog -- in a special place after the meal -- not from the table.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:33:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNXjkq020760 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:33:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A19B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037660 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:33 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNWXI22493 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:33 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.d5.1f996430 (4222) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:22 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:21 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 5:21:09 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << (I love butter, I should add. But I've never heard of puttting it on a sandwich.) >> Oh, I've been putting butter on my bologna sandwiches for years. A neighbor who was a friend of Mom's introduced me to it when I was a child. Butter on one slice of bread and Miracle Whip on the other. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:48:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNmbkq020845 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:48:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDA01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:47:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:47:26 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNlPI24214 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:47:25 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:47:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCCB3.24257103@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:03 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > >From: Janet Hardy > >With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has > >never even tried to be vegetarian. > > Nah. You can at least add me, although I'm pretty sure you'll be receiving > other similar responses. > Yes. I never have tried. Although I am not a big meat eater when left to my own devices. It is too much trouble. I am on my way to the kitchen for two more hot dogs in a minute. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:49:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNnskq020849 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:49:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1AD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:43 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNmgI24342 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:42 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00DQ3U55WH@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:48:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:51:11 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: <3DBDC751.69C83E1A@maynor.net> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDC751.69C83E1A@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Janet Hardy wrote: > >> (Of course, if one has a dog, no food goes to waste, >> ever.) > >That depends. Some people are adamant about not letting their dogs have >table scraps. Since I almost never have scraps, that's not a worry for >me. (I would not be adamant about it, though. Unless a dog is >overweight or the scraps are a regular thing, I see nothing wrong with >giving them to a dog -- in a special place after the meal -- not from >the table.) I don't hand Amy food from the table, but I put the plates on the floor after we've finished eating from them. Helps keep the pack hierarchy clear ;) Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:51:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNphkq020862 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:51:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDA46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:50:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:50:31 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNoVI24487 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:50:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028235210.FDDZ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:52:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCD3D.25BB9D55@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:50:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021028161938.7AFA37C28@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > There's an Indian restaurant here that serves an orgasmic rice > pudding. IMHO, the difference between a good rice pudding and one I > won't eat is the graininess. Are you saying that you want the grains of rice to be undiscernible in rice pudding? Not me. I don't want mush. I like seeing and feeling the grains of rice. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:54:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNsJkq020878 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:54:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDA69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:53:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:53:07 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNr7I24751 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:53:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021028235446.FFIV15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:54:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCDDC.F1D82D04@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:53:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <3DBD65CB.6D053B4A@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > I knew that deviled eggs were considered Southern > > Never heard that till this moment. I heart deviled eggs. The best ones Hmm. Maybe I'm thinking that because I've heard that deviled-egg dishes are Southern. That may not be true either. (I do have a deviled-egg dish but have never made deviled eggs. Or at least I used to have one. I can't remember having seen it recently.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:58:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNwGkq020898 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:58:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDA9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:04 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNv4I25110 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:04 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:56:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCF02.8C557F0F@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:54 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Our allies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Published on Monday, October 28, 2002 by the Times/UK >US-British Strategy on Iraq Close to Collapse >by James Bone in New York and Chris Ayres in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico > >Diplomats say that Britain and the United States can count on the support >only of Bulgaria, Colombia, Norway and Singapore for its latest proposal. I'm glad that Espen is on our side. But none of these countries is known for their huge army and air force, alas. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:58:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNwskq020903 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:58:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDAA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:42 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNvgI25134 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:42 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCF28.6F7CE856@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:58:32 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Oh, I've been putting butter on my bologna sandwiches for years. > A neighbor who was a friend of Mom's introduced me to it when > I was a child. Butter on one slice of bread and Miracle Whip on > the other. A woman after my own heart! alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:59:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9SNxfkq020911 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDAAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:58:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:58:30 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNwQI25203 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:58:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029000005.FKFW15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:58:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has veggies in it. I started to say "oh yes -- that's Southern!" but then realized you said veggies. I've never had veggies in jello. I was thinking of fruit. I do like jello jammed with banana, apple, pineapple, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:00:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T00Ukq020937 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:00:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDAB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:59:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:59:18 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNxII25293 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:59:18 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:59:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCF8E.F43163E4@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:00:14 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <3DBD65CB.6D053B4A@valstar.net> <3DBDCDDC.F1D82D04@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Hmm. Maybe I'm thinking that because I've heard that deviled-egg dishes > are Southern. Could be. I've never seen one except in pictures. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:02:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T021kq020951 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:02:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDAD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:00:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:00:50 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T00nI25490 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:00:50 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust115.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.117]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:00:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCFE9.BBA9718D@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:01:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has veggies in it. > > I started to say "oh yes -- that's Southern!" but then realized you said > veggies. I've never had veggies in jello. I've never said "veggies." Is it southern? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:03:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T03Okq020958 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:03:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDAE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:02:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:02:12 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T02CI25677 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:02:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029000351.FNNJ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:03:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDCFFD.FC8F4536@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:02:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBD7B23.7A5DEB13@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > The hardest part about shopping at Albertsons is that they have deviled-egg > trays. Every time I walk past them the little three-inch me with the horns and the > tail that sits on that shoulder jabs me with his pitchfork. I must confess to sometimes buying little cartons of deviled eggs if I'm grocery shopping when hungry. Every time I do it, I say to myself that I won't do it again but then do do it again. Maybe I won't now that I've tasted those fantastic green ones I had Saturday night. Ones in grocery stores will pale. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:04:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T04hkq020970 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:04:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDAFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:03:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:03:31 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T03VI25760 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:03:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029000509.FOQM15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:05:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD049.C85F8329@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:03:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Arizona shooting! > > Five bucks Natalie blames me for it. No. It's not at all your style. Why would you want to shoot professors of nursing? And Mesa really isn't all that close, is it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:08:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T085kq020983 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:08:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDB2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:06:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:06:53 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNurI25057 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:56:53 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9SNupc16505 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:56:51 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9SNuqRG026083 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 15:56:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:12:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:32 PM 10/28/2002 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/28/2002 5:21:09 PM Central Standard Time, >natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > ><< >(I love butter, I should add. But I've never heard >of puttting it on a sandwich.) > > > >> > >Oh, I've been putting butter on my bologna sandwiches for years. >A neighbor who was a friend of Mom's introduced me to it when >I was a child. Butter on one slice of bread and Miracle Whip on >the other. I remember butter and sugar on white bread. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:10:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0APkq020997 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:10:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDB4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:09:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:09:13 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail100.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T09DI26227 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:09:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029001052.SKVJ8695.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD1A2.8FCF8789@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:09:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <20021028182456.2BE8B7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Does eating one hamburger make you > not a vegetarian? I don't think so. I think it makes you not a vegetarian in that general time period. But I don't think it means that you've never been a vegetarian in the past or could never be one in the future. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:13:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0DIkq021002 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:13:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDB79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:12:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:12:06 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0C6I26570 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:12:06 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-250.panax.com [63.163.42.250]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0C3t23927 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:12:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:11:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I remember butter and sugar on white bread. >Betty I remember lard sandwiches. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:25:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0P7kq021056 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1CA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:23:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:23:52 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail121.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0NqI27830 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:23:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029002531.WSNT4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:25:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD50E.F56BC625@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:23:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <001a01c27eb4$79918c30$48305b80@EAGLE72> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > >Would they stop calling themselves vegetarians? > Yes, if they eat the meat intentionally. I agree. The person I mentioned who ate a hamburger for lunch on Fridays said that he was a vegetarian every day but Friday. That made sense to me. If he had said just "I'm a vegetarian," the Friday hamburgers would have made me conclude he was lying. He was very, very serious about his religion. I'll never forget that Friday night in summer when we convinced him to go to a party with us since it would end before dark. Darkness was falling, and he was panicking. I was mightily offended by the people who didn't seem to worry about his feelings. (And I took him home at that instant and then returned to the party.) I don't know the vegetarian rules of Seventh-Day Adventism. Like I don't know why he considered it ok to eat a hamburger on Friday. The first time I ever heard of tofu turkeys was a Thanksgiving report from another Seventh-Day Adventist I knew in graduate school -- the woman who taught at a Seventh-Day Adventist college in Chattanooga and was taking a once-a-week class at UT. She wore rubber alligators. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:26:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0QFkq021060 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:26:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDC3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:25:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:25:03 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0P1I27940 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:25:02 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PVQ103.8TY for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:22:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDD527.EBD4042B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:24:07 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Finally! References: <3DA34CE8.9040708@swbell.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021008150614.00a57ec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20021008154804.00a50ac0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20021009005305.GE27429@pobox.com> <000701c27e2f$6cc1d440$0b6c8041@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bogris01 wrote: > I took it home, feeling > rather shitty, and asked my daddy, a retired Baptist minister, if > I should have turned it in to the cashier. Gravely, he said, > "No, son, you did the right thing." The last GMA gunshow a guy bent down and picked up a fin laying on the floor. Holding it over his head he looked around and asked rather loudly, "Hey, did anybody drop this?" We all just looked at him, and after a bit you could almost see him mentally shrug and then put it in his pocket. I still can't believe that the dealers didn't trample each other. Perhaps I've misjudged them all these years. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:27:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0RCkq021067 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:27:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDC4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:00 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail121.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0Q0I28042 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029002739.WUBO4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD591.AB155960@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <1421120379260.20021028111546@gailndan.com> <3DBD4795.4765.16BD06C@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > Bread pudding is one of those things that, if it were available, I would eat - > regardless of how full I already was. I am powerless in the presence of bread > pudding. What's really amazing about the bread pudding in the MSU cafeteria is that you can almost taste the bourbon, even though it is alcohol-free. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:31:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0VDkq021110 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:31:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDC81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:30:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:30:02 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail121.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0U1I28376 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:30:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029003140.WXHB4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:31:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD683.385172D9@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:29:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <20021028190516.4DCF37C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBD95E6.DCF5EAFC@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Are "the > reserves" the same as the National Guard? Or different? Different, I think. The National Guard consists of people who are still active in the NG, as in spending a weekend a month plus two weeks in summer or something like that on war play. The Reserves, I think, are former military people. Isn't it like for X number of years after being discharged, you're still considered in The Reserves? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:33:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0XTkq021120 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:33:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1D04@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:32:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:32:17 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail119.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0WHI28559 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:32:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029003356.WZBB4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:33:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD70A.1446A3A4@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Consolidated grandmother... References: <001601c27ebe$762de340$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mandar wrote: > > ....And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first > dangled > in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to > demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our > anatomy..... > > Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just as we were > about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our > consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit intrigueing... Welcome, Red, but I find this question difficult without knowing the antecedent of "this" in the first sentence. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:34:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0Y0kq021126 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:34:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDCA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:32:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:32:48 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail121.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0WmI28580 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:32:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029003427.WZMA4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD729.47E19C9B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mandar wrote: > > Ignore the consolidated grandmother post. Why? We don't like ignoring. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:34:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0YYkq021131 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:34:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDCAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:33:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:33:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0NMI27808 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:23:22 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T0NLVO010715 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:23:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:23:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Marie Ascher wrote: >>From: Janet Hardy >>With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has >>never even tried to be vegetarian. > >Nah. You can at least add me, although I'm pretty sure you'll be receiving >other similar responses. I have never tried it. I probably never will. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:35:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0ZJkq021136 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:35:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1D13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:07 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0Y6I28712 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:06 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PW5602.ASX for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:31:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDD74E.7FCB7262@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:33:18 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD14F9.3500.5EC631@localhost> <3DBDB0BE.4782451A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDBACB.79F47904@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Just wondering--Would you trust an army of only women to protect you? You betcha. I'd just say to them, "You see those guys over there? They say your uniform makes your butt look big." The hard part will be to keep them from shooting the prisoners. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:36:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0aBkq021140 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:36:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDCC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail119.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0YxI28763 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029003638.XBHY4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD7AC.47D229A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:34:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The devil made me do it References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.1.5.2.20021028123548.00a4d860@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > >I think Neal helped Janet make them at her house during WordQuake. I remember that Neal served them. I didn't remember that he had helped make them. > Rashmi did too. They were gooood. Yes, they were excellent. And Rashmi is great kitchen help. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:37:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0bXkq021146 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:37:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDCD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:21 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0QLI28069 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T0QKVO012480 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Betty Clark wrote: >I remember butter and sugar on white bread. Oh my gosh - so do I - I had not thought of that in years. It's best, of course, toasted with cinammon added. Cinammon toast, I believe? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:37:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0bqkq021150 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:37:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDCD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:40 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0QeI28087 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:40 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T0QdVO012689 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, bonniev wrote: >>I remember butter and sugar on white bread. >>Betty > >I remember lard sandwiches. Yuck! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:38:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0cskq021156 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:38:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDCE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:42 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0bfI28975 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:41 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PWB203.2U1 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:35:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDD823.7DFEDB81@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:36:51 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDC751.69C83E1A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > I don't hand Amy food from the table, but I put the plates on the > floor after we've finished eating from them. Helps keep the pack > hierarchy clear ;) And saves on dishwasher soap. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:38:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0cvkq021159 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:38:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDCE4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0RjI28182 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:27:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T0RiVO013090 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:27:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:27:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBDD50E.F56BC625@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >a once-a-week class at UT. She wore rubber alligators. On what part of her anatomy? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:40:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0epkq021169 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:40:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1D4D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:39:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040459 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail119.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0dcI29187 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:39:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029004117.XESD4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD8C4.4F4A8F2C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:39:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> <3DBDA86A.C9AA392A@valstar.net> <3DBDAF42.6F3DA250@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > downright incorrect. I have a NYT password, but I never have to enter > > it. I just go there and I am in. > > And, in keeping with "keeping track of who reads what", why do you > think that is? Because she has told that site to remember her password. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:41:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0fQkq021174 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:41:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDD06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:40:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:40:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f264.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0eEI29248 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:40:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:40:08 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:40:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:40:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 00:40:08.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB83ACC0:01C27EE3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Janet Hardy >With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has >never even tried to be vegetarian. memememe. Growing up, my best friend was vegetarian. She had twin older sisters who used to bully me about eating meat. So much so that I'd not go to their house when the sisters were around. Never occurred to me to give up eating meat though. Nowadays every time I read about factory farms I think it would be nice to give up eating meat but have never seriously considered doing it. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:43:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0hTkq021184 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:43:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDD1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:42:17 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0gHI29416 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:42:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029004356.PKJS282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:43:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD962.58C78906@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:42:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD14F9.3500.5EC631@localhost> <3DBDB0BE.4782451A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Can the draft be far behind? > > And in keeping with the spirit of affirmative action only females will be > subject to it for the first 80 years or so. I have never understood why women weren't subject to it. I remember arguing that point with my father one time and not understanding why he just didn't . He said, "Would you want to be drafted?" I said, "No. Not any more than John [or whoever] wants to be." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:43:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0hWkq021187 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:43:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDD1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:42:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:42:20 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f45.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.45]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0gJI29426 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:42:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:42:14 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:42:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:42:14 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 00:42:14.0307 (UTC) FILETIME=[064BCF30:01C27EE4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Some categories have parameters that are more strictly defined. To me, >"vegetarian" means "I choose not to eat meat" To you, it obviously means >"I have >never eaten meat." No, it says nothing about the past. I'm a vegetarian describes present and immediate-to-long-term future states. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:44:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0iWkq021193 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:44:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1D78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:43:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:43:20 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0hJI29509 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:43:19 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PWKJ00.3R8 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:41:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDD978.5887380C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:42:32 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD049.C85F8329@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > No. It's not at all your style. Well, thank you for that. I think. (Thinks: What is my style? Boring people to death?) > Why would you want to shoot professors > of nursing? I wouldn't. Nor of any other dsicipline. I've said it before, The only two reasons I'd shoot something would be to either eat it or to keep it from eating me. > And Mesa really isn't all that close, is it? Very good! No, it isn't. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:45:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0jEkq021217 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:45:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDD32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:01 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0i1I29559 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:43:56 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:43:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:43:56 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 00:43:56.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[43161880:01C27EE4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >I know of no vegetarians who eat >meat on some days of the week. I know several people who eat meat only on some days of the week. They don't call themselves vegetarians though. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:45:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0jVkq021220 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:45:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1D81@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:19 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0iJI29581 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:44:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029004557.PMBJ282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDD9DC.51C41C4F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:44:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <3DBDB163.1BF6A972@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Why is it we have peace rallies and the other guys have "Death to > America" rallies? We who? There have been peace rallies all over the world. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:46:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0kEkq021225 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:46:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1D9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:45:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:45:02 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0j2I29772 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:45:02 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T0j0j27733 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:45:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301c27ee4$a6ea2040$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:46:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I remember butter and sugar on white bread. > >Betty > > I remember lard sandwiches. > > > --bonniev I remember coming home from school and opening the frig and taking out a jar of thick cream and spreading it on bread and then sprinkling sugar on it. It was very satisfying. But lard! Never! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:48:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0makq021232 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDD6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:47:24 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0lOI30030 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:47:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.95]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029004903.POND282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:49:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDDA95.CF8DAF36@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:47:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <1841133336802.20021028145143@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > I'm sure some cops would support going into > Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be > called up, or their kids, etc. And that's a reason for being for or against it? Sure, it's human nature to bring it all back to . But it nevertheless bothers me mightily that so many people do make moral or political judgments based on their own personal situations. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:49:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0nNkq021238 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:49:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDD78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:11 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0mAI30061 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PWSM02.8SQ for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:45:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDDA9B.4F05C25@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:47:23 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <3DBDB163.1BF6A972@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD9DC.51C41C4F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > We who? There have been peace rallies all over the world. Does that include the Middle East? I must have missed that. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:54:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0sSkq021264 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:54:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDDCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:13 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0r8I30608 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:09 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00DHKX4JZF@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:53:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:55:38 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Betty Clark wrote: > >>I remember butter and sugar on white bread. > >Oh my gosh - so do I - I had not thought of that in years. It's best, of >course, toasted with cinammon added. Cinammon toast, I believe? Absolutely. I still make it sometimes, when I'm craving sweets and there's nothing in the house. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:54:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0sdkq021267 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:54:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDDCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:27 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f220.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.220]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0rRI30615 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:53:21 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:53:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:53:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 00:53:21.0792 (UTC) FILETIME=[9425F000:01C27EE5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan: > it is generally accepted that there are varying > degrees of straight/bi/gay. If you're identifying as gay now (as > opposed to bi), then if you were to hit the sack with a woman, > I'd say you weren't gay, but bi. This reminds me of -Who's kissing Jessica Stein-. Anyone else see it? Woody Allenish (think Manhattan) flick updated for the 90s. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:55:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0tJkq021273 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:55:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDDDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:54:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:54:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0s7I30684 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:54:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-40.panax.com [65.114.190.40]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0s5t32732 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:54:05 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <001301c27ee4$a6ea2040$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I remember coming home from school and >opening the frig and taking out a jar of >thick cream and spreading it on bread and >then sprinkling sugar on it. It was very >satisfying. > >But lard! Never! > - D. M. I never did it myself. But my parents did. I didn't eat a lot of things that my parents did. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:56:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0udkq021279 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:56:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDDEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:26 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0tQI30812 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:26 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00DPUX8DYQ@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:55:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:57:53 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-reply-to: X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > >>I know of no vegetarians who eat >>meat on some days of the week. > >I know several people who eat meat only on some days of >the week. They don't call themselves vegetarians though. I don't know why I feel this way, but in this discussion I tend to differentiate between people who are vegetarians for health reasons and those who are vegetarians for ethical reasons. If you're a vegetarian for ethical reasons and you eat meat, that seems hypocritical; if for health reasons, well, what the hell, it's your body. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 18:57:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T0vLkq021285 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:57:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDDF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:56:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:56:09 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T0u9I30848 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:56:09 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00E2JX9K02@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:56:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:58:39 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: San Francisco rally In-reply-to: <3DBDDA95.CF8DAF36@maynor.net> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <1841133336802.20021028145143@gailndan.com> <3DBDDA95.CF8DAF36@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Dan Lester wrote: > >> I'm sure some cops would support going into >> Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be >> called up, or their kids, etc. > >And that's a reason for being for or against it? Sure, it's human >nature to bring it all back to . But it nevertheless >bothers me mightily that so many people do make moral or political >judgments based on their own personal situations. Well, yeah. But I know that on 9/11, the first website I looked at was CNN.com -- and the second was the Selective Service Board. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:04:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T141kq021336 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:04:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDE5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:46 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T12jI31406 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:45 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00DERXKKYO@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:02:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:05:15 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-reply-to: X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Dan: >> it is generally accepted that there are varying >> degrees of straight/bi/gay. If you're identifying as gay now (as >> opposed to bi), then if you were to hit the sack with a woman, >> I'd say you weren't gay, but bi. > >This reminds me of -Who's kissing Jessica Stein-. Anyone else >see it? Woody Allenish (think Manhattan) flick updated for the 90s. Yes, and enjoyed it. It was quite a bit like my own first bisexual experience. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:04:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T14ekq021343 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:04:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1E8D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:03:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:03:28 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T13RI31480 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:03:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-10.panax.com [65.114.190.10]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T13Pt02375 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:03:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:03:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3DBDD729.47E19C9B@maynor.net> References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:32 PM 10/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Mandar wrote: > > > > Ignore the consolidated grandmother post. > >Why? We don't like ignoring. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Hey, Red/Mandar/whatever. Pay no attention. Natalie likes to use the imperial "We," as if she were in some sense in control of this list. In fact, she is speaking only for herself, and sometimes many of us doubt even that. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:05:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T15Skq021353 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:05:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDE76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T14FI31610 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-40.panax.com [65.114.190.40]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T14Et02539 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028200231.00a16530@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >If you're a >vegetarian for ethical reasons and you eat meat, that seems >hypocritical; if for health reasons, well, what the hell, it's your >body. --Janet I agree with this. I also know at least one vegetarian who is so for aesthetic reasons. He just doesn't like meat and has been that way since a child. He claims not to be a vegetarian because he thinks of that as a political position. He simply doesn't eat meat. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:06:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T164kq021361 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:06:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDE83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041533 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:52 -0500 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T14qI31660 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.148.16e97ea (16335) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <148.16e97ea.2aef38ad@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:45 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 6:06:07 PM Central Standard Time, bclark@UHS.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << I remember butter and sugar on white bread. >> When I used to eat peanut butter, I would put sugar or honey on it. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:10:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1ANkq021383 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:10:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDEC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:09:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:09:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T19AI31918 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:09:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4PXRM01.PTF for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:06:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDDF86.C5B02035@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:08:22 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD14F9.3500.5EC631@localhost> <3DBDB0BE.4782451A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD962.58C78906@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I have never understood why women weren't subject to it. Me neither. (The fact that my mother was a WAC may color my beliefs somewhat.) Having said that, I have to add that, despite the Russian experience, I don't feel women should actively bear arms. (Not being able to throw a grenade beyond its lethal radius is a drawback, I think, and if I had to be hauled into a rescue chopper I'd prefer the rope be pulled by Hulk Hogan, not Madonna.) OTOH, boys think blowing things up is cool, so I don't know. Furthermore, I'd be pretty tight on deferments. (Full Disclosure: I went from 2-S to 1-A to 4-F in 90 days.) I mean, if my library can find work for people in wheelchairs I'm fairly certain the US Army can as well. John "War is good for business - invest your sons" W. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:23:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1NPkq021466 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:23:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FDF7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:22:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:22:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:X7rtK1/rqGD0C7+z9DZozOhV8cPHxZ2A@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1CCI32114 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:12:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0A92FF8F for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 746757C0C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:12:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBD9ADC.449A9A3B@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 28, 2002 3:15:24 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:12:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029011211.746757C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > My brother is guarding prisoners in D.C. Stuff like that--guarding > > dams and airports. > > And he is in the reserves? Not National Guard? Yes, but he was called up in June, I think. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:26:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1QRkq021483 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:26:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FDFA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:25:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:25:15 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1PEI00829 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:25:14 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA04081 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:25:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E4D2838699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:25:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:25:13 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van Message-ID: <20021029012513.GD29444@pobox.com> References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 06:04:55PM -0700, John Williams wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > You were certain it was an Arab. But hey, whatever works ... > > No, I was NOT "certain". I was pointing out the tunnel-vision of the > profilers. Are you vexed that it turned out I was right? Not at all; very happy that you were "right". As I said, ambiguous mutterings are always turn out right, but the constant whiney tone of "was it X? gee, I thought it was Y" has to be checked at some point. I'd make a joke about a posteriori wisdom, but you wouldn't get it and what would be the use? Let's just say that given your lack of openness to possibilities and obvious ignorance of how probability--or for that matter empirical investigation as a whole--works, you would make a thoroughly incompetent police detective. Since you are such a civil gentleman, then, you should stop pontificating about their profession. > > The basic point is that Black Muslims are fucked ... > > When did I say that? When? C'mon, tell me. Says 6:03 on my > clock here - you have two hours to put up or shut up. You didn't say that. I said it. It's a basic property of "marking". No community is fucked if the bad guy turns out someone unmarked. Not that I would have to repeat basics like this to remedially clueful people. Maybe you should start analyzing the unintended hilarity of "a Muslim *named Mohammed*" and perhaps the connection with your brilliant intuitions will become clear to you. > > making which is, by the way, the reason for this post, just in > > case you think it is respect for what passes for your intelligence. > > Tushie, you're so cute when you get full of yourself. I forget, > what was your MacArthur Foundation grant for again? Nice flame, considering ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:31:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1Vakq021524 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:31:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDFEA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1UOI01233 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021029013019.IDLI28672.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:30:19 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028172644.02360d30@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:29:49 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Secure Beneath The Watchful Eyes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This official London Transport "Secure Beneath The Watchful Eyes" poster handily beats the USPTO's Homeland Security eye/keyhole graphic for spine-tingling effect: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:31:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1Vbkq021527 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:31:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FDFEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:30:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:30:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jopA3cDviCxzfVtuOVrqnSzUiN7gIiY7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1KNI00341 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:20:24 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FB72FFA0 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 34D617C10; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:20:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBDA64F.F2FDA137@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 28, 2002 4: 4:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:20:23 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029012023.34D617C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > > > > Can the draft be far behind? > > No. That was going to be my next post. I thought accepted thought was that the draft was 2 years behind? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:34:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1YRkq021536 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE010@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:33:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:33:14 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1XEI01486 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:33:14 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA07279 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:33:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8721838699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:33:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:33:13 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: travel plans Message-ID: <20021029013313.GE29444@pobox.com> References: <20021025222251.GH3741@pobox.com> <20021025222954.5702F7C33@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021025222954.5702F7C33@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:29:54PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > > My point is does it have liberal doses > > of complicated slang? > > Doesn't every lg? Some dialects, or I guess registers is the word, can have more than others. And I see now that neither liberal nor complicated is the key property, it's fast-changing that may make it difficult. I could tell from talking to my brother-in-law that I will sound slow and stupid in Bombay--I mean more than I used do. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:37:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1bQkq021551 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE037@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:36:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:36:14 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1aDI01691 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:36:13 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA08303 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 19B9238699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:36:12 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive Message-ID: <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 05:59:32PM -0500, Doris Markland wrote: > > Perhaps you should just admit YOU are naive and be done with it, > > since it's getting tiring to see the ridiculous image trotted out > > again and again, of a naive, trusting, ever-helpful nation being > > criticised by ungrateful recipients of kindnesses. At least know > > the history of these "criticisms", fair or unfair, before speaking. > > (Though I suspect the whole attitude is arising out of a more basic > > error, that of thinking that your personal conduct has anything to > > do with USA's diplomatic and military conduct. By the way, isn't it > > a bit arrogant to act like the minority you are part of represents > > every American in every minor, boring detail?) > > Well now don't you and Rita get your > camel-toe covers in a wad. But thanks > for expressing an opinion. You > have as much right as anyone to do so. > But I'd rather hear your opinions > about the country/world/war threat/etc > than your opinion about me. That's > when the thread gets boring. > > But that's okay. I'm naive in your > opinion. I'll buy that. Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge must exist before conversation is even possible. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:38:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1cYkq021555 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:38:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE047@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:37:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:37:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:AvFUqCV7vQN+oKerk4q/0Qel1eARkq1t@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1RMI00937 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:27:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155382FE2B for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D728E7C0C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:27:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDCD3D.25BB9D55@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 28, 2002 5:50:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:27:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029012721.D728E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > There's an Indian restaurant here that serves an orgasmic rice > > pudding. IMHO, the difference between a good rice pudding and one I > > won't eat is the graininess. > > Are you saying that you want the grains of rice to be undiscernible in > rice pudding? Not me. I don't want mush. I like seeing and feeling > the grains of rice. Yes, but the grains shouldn't be grainy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:39:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1dMkq021559 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:39:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A1FF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:38:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:38:10 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1cAI01865 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:38:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.67]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029013949.OIVS3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:39:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDE677.B4636312@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Well, Merde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jimmy did forward the mail to current Netscape people, and this person replied to me. I have no memory now of that url that I played with. Do any of you remember it? My inclination is to tell her just to forget it since the point wasn't really that java script -- it was a general point about the superiority of 4.7 to later versions. ************* My name is [snip], I'm the escalations contact in Netscape Customer Care. Your email regarding HTML parsing in Netscape 6 and higher versions was forwarded to me. First, I want to thank you for your interest and for sending this question to Netscape. We appreciate feedback and I will do my best to answer your questions and concerns. To investigate your question, can you please provide me with the specific HTML script that disables right click? I would be glad to check with our Engineering team on the specific HTML tags to see if they are supported in Netscape 6/7. Thank you! Warm Regards, [snip] Netscape Customer Care ******************** It somehow seemed proper for me to snip out this person's name. I don't know why. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:47:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1lfkq021622 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:47:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2051@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:46:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:46:29 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1kSI02695 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:46:28 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T1kQj01107 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:46:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003c01c27eed$3c32b420$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > But that's okay. I'm naive in your > > opinion. I'll buy that. > > Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" > etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions > all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge > must exist before conversation is even possible. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:48:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1mhkq021627 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE0D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:47:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:47:30 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1lUI02791 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:47:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029014909.ORHZ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDE8AB.AA23164D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:47:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has > never even tried to be vegetarian. Do you count Wordslers among people you know? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:50:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1oQkq021639 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:50:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2060@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:48:40 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1mdI02855 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:48:40 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA12353 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:39 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2512D38699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:48:39 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive Message-ID: <20021029014839.GG29444@pobox.com> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DB9E0D1.9050600@swbell.net> <3DB9F35A.2D1E03FB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9FAC9.2060507@swbell.net> <168846059.20021027193430@gailndan.com> <3DBCA464.F062518A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DBCA464.F062518A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here we go. I wrote this: > > >>>>>(Though I suspect the whole attitude is arising out of a more basic > > >>>>>error, that of thinking that your personal conduct has anything to > > >>>>>do with USA's diplomatic and military conduct. By the way, isn't it > > >>>>>a bit arrogant to act like the minority you are part of represents > > >>>>>every American in every minor, boring detail?) I believe it. Or I believe, if you subtract the rhetorical phrase in the above, that D.M. belongs to a far smaller population than she thinks. Of course, I base it on opinions heard from a range of people in a large city, and hence it may be all fringe weirdo opinion. But I can truthfully say that I haven't heard any version of USA as an exporter of unalloyed goodness to worldwide ingrates as stark as this. As for this: > > >> True, any individual has minimal effect upon national policy. But > > >> what evidence do you have to say that Doris is in a minority? And if > > >> she is, shouldn't the Politics of Inclusion respect her input? And > > >> isn't calling her a "minority" a tad arrogant? "We outnumber you, > > >> therefore your opinion is worthless." (Sorry, minor and boring.) Since this sad shipwrecked piece of nonsense misses my point in a particularly dense way, it's probably JMW. You could learn one lesson from this, viz: stick to the flattest, most straightforward diction possible, especially among people who most fondly believe they are "masters of irony" and such ... But I post mainly for enjoyment, so, well, life will have to be tough. Alas! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:50:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1opkq021642 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:50:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE0F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:39 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1ndI03015 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029015117.OTHL3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDE92C.4CD68E73@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:49:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028175742.00a0c070@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I do. Or at least I used to. Haven't seen him in many, many years. A > >Seventh-Day Adventist I was in grad school with was a vegetarian except > >for eating a hamburger for lunch every Friday. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > How nice for him. Paul would accept that. As long as the guy thought of > himself as a vegetarian, he was a vegetarian. Moral standards, reality > checks, and the meaning of language be damned. He said clearly that he was a vegetarian except on Fridays. As I think I said a little while ago, that made sense to me. He didn't say just "I'm a vegetarian." That would not have made sense to me if he ate meat at any time, even once a year. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:50:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1oqkq021643 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:50:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A207E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:39 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1ndI03018 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:49:39 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T1nbj04762 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:49:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:51:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar: > Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" > etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions > all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge > must exist before conversation is even possible. Er, I think I probably am taking you wrong, but your message reads, to me, like this: I have a lot of knowledge and you have none, so I don't think I want to talk to you. And I think that is probably best. But no hard feelings, okay? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:51:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1pUkq021654 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:51:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE103@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:50:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:50:17 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1oHI03159 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:50:17 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA12886 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:50:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D803738699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:50:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:50:16 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive Message-ID: <20021029015016.GH29444@pobox.com> References: <004301c27c9e$06a8d4c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 06:02:37PM -0700, Ann Borkin wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Doris Markland wrote: > > Could it be that I am hoping there will be > > some conversation on the list that isn't > > about really really personal trivia? > > Does it matter what the stimulus is? > > And how many times have we heard > > that list members have more than > > one persona? > > Are you suggesting that we not take everything you say as your real > thoughts, necessarily, that you have more than one persona? > > I think that's what you mean by the last question. That people are > treating you as simpler than you are? If I have done that to D.M., I apologize. But it is hard to guess whether she is making a joke, or what. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:52:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1qhkq021662 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:52:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE10E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:31 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1pUI03283 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029015309.OUWF3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:53:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:51:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > I'm sure some cops would support going into > > Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be > > called up, or their kids, etc. > > This strikes me as the stupidest reason in the world to be against > war. The other side of the coin would be equally absurd: "I'm for war in > Iraq because neither I nor anyone I love is likely to have to go over there > and fight." Either the war is justified or it isn't. The fact that > people will die has nothing to do with that. The fact that people will die is a reason to be against all war. But I agree totally with your point otherwise. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:53:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1rBkq021671 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE115@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:58 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1pwI03357 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:58 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA13547 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:51:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 78AD838699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:51:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:51:57 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive Message-ID: <20021029015157.GI29444@pobox.com> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:51:20PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > Er, I think I probably am taking you wrong, > but your message reads, to me, like this: > I have a lot of knowledge and you > have none, so I don't think I want to > talk to you. I always sound like that, to a small but significant proportion of people. I haven't found a solution to that. What's a solution to "you think you are so damn smarty-fart"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:53:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1rbkq021675 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE119@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:24 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1qOI03443 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4P00D3SZVBZ5@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:52:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:54:53 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-reply-to: <3DBDE8AB.AA23164D@maynor.net> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> <3DBDE8AB.AA23164D@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Janet Hardy wrote: > >> With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has >> never even tried to be vegetarian. > >Do you count Wordslers among people you know? I guess, but I've never asked them about vegetarianism until now. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:55:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1t6kq021686 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:53:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:53:54 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1rsI03551 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:53:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029015533.OWNZ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:55:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDEA2B.B2778930@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:53:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Butter on one slice of bread and Miracle Whip on > the other. Somebody once told me that it was not nice to say "yuck" or "barf" re somebody's food choice. But I can't help it here. Yuck, yuck, barf, barf. Please forgive me, Evelyn! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:57:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1v6kq021710 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:57:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A20C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:55:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:55:54 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1trI03698 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:55:53 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA15031 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B546038699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:52 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Edward Scissorhands Message-ID: <20021029015552.GJ29444@pobox.com> References: <20021025201930.GD3741@pobox.com> <20021025155028.P87599-100000@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021025155028.P87599-100000@idiom.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:52:41PM -0700, Sharon Ziperovich wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > I opened the novel "Chocolat" yesterday and was so grossed out > > by the texture of the prose on every random page I looked at that > > I am not going to read it nor watch the movie, sorry. I hope to > > Rent the movie. You don't invest much to find out how wrong you are. Are you stark, raving crazy? With the deluge of CONTENT all around you, you go out on a limb just in case you are wrong? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:57:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1vrkq021715 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:57:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE152@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:56:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:56:40 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1ueI03816 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:56:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029015819.OYLQ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDEAD1.B9F9A333@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:56:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDC751.69C83E1A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > >giving them to a dog -- in a special place after the meal -- not from > >the table.) > > I don't hand Amy food from the table, but I put the plates on the > floor after we've finished eating from them. Helps keep the pack > hierarchy clear ;) I should add that the only reason I am against feeding dogs from the table is that dinner guests sometimes aren't into dogs and don't want a dog slinking up to the table and begging. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:59:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1xckq021724 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:59:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE163@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:25 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1w5I04015 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:05 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1w3c28971 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:58:03 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9T1w3RG012141; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:58:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:00:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:26 PM 10/28/2002 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Betty Clark wrote: > > >I remember butter and sugar on white bread. > >Oh my gosh - so do I - I had not thought of that in years. It's best, of >course, toasted with cinammon added. Cinammon toast, I believe? I much preferred that. My father would break up break in a bowl, add milk and sugar, and eat. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 19:59:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T1xukq021727 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:59:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE16B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:43 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1whI04056 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:58:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029020022.OZYJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:00:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDEB4C.DAD792A1@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:58:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDC751.69C83E1A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU P.S. But I don't carry the be-considerate-of-guests idea to an extreme. Some houseguests might not like dogs in houses at all. That's past my polite-hostess line. If they don't like dogs in houses, they can go home. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T219kq021758 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:01:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE17B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:56 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1xuI04137 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:56 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1xsc31514 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:54 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9T1xsRG006694 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:59:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021028180040.00a34780@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:01:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:40 AM 10/29/2002 +0000, you wrote: >From: Janet Hardy > >>With the exception of my mother, I'm the only woman I know who has >>never even tried to be vegetarian. > >memememe. Growing up, my best friend was vegetarian. >She had twin older sisters who used to bully me about >eating meat. So much so that I'd not go to their house >when the sisters were around. Never occurred to me to >give up eating meat though. > >Nowadays every time I read about factory farms I think >it would be nice to give up eating meat but have never >seriously considered doing it. I'm not a vegetarian but I really don't care for much red meat, except an occasional hamburger. (The kind that the juices run down your arms when you eat it.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:04:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T24pkq021770 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE1B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:03:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:03:39 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T23dI04632 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:03:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029020518.PDVA3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:05:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDEC74.6D79C40D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:03:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3DBDCFE9.BBA9718D@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > > Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has veggies in it. > > > > I started to say "oh yes -- that's Southern!" but then realized you said > > veggies. I've never had veggies in jello. > > I've never said "veggies." Is it southern? I don't think so. I don't say "veggies" and don't hear it often. I used it above because I tend to use the words that were used in the postings I'm responding to. I have of course heard "veggies," but it's not something I would say myself. It sounds a bit less alien to me, however, than "mayo." As I think I said earlier, I'm not sure that I've ever heard anybody say "mayo" in . I have heard living beings say "veggies." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:05:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T25akq021778 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:05:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE1BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:04:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:04:24 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T24NI04683 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:04:23 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.f.10c7b5b (16335) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:04:05 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:04:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 7:54:07 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Please forgive me, Evelyn! >> You're forgiven. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:07:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T27bkq021788 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:07:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE1E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:06:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:06:24 -0500 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T26OI04963 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:06:24 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.1ab.b175f37 (16335) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:06:08 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1ab.b175f37.2aef470f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:06:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 7:56:57 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I should add that the only reason I am against feeding dogs from the table is that dinner guests sometimes aren't into dogs and don't want a dog slinking up to the table and begging. >> I think the family dog is more important than dinner guests. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T290kq021792 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE200@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:07:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:07:47 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T27lI05126 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:07:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029020926.PHDH3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:07:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I remember butter and sugar on white bread. > >Betty > > I remember lard sandwiches. I haven't seen Betty's original yet, but I do remember "cinnamon toast" -- toasted bread (white) with sugar and butter and cinnamon. It was a breakfast thing -- not something for everyday but an occasional treat. What is a lard sandwich? At risk of being called mutant, I must admit that I don't really know what lard is. Yes, I know the word and have heard it for eons. But I've never really known exactly what it was other than that it was something unhealthful that was used by some people in cooking. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:10:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2ADkq021798 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:10:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE20F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:00 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T290I05269 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:00 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4Q00DTL0MYWQ@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:08:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:11:29 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: <3DBDEAD1.B9F9A333@maynor.net> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028095502.00a05530@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028110815.009ef930@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDC751.69C83E1A@maynor.net> <3DBDEAD1.B9F9A333@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Janet Hardy wrote: > >> >giving them to a dog -- in a special place after the meal -- not from >> >the table.) >> >> I don't hand Amy food from the table, but I put the plates on the >> floor after we've finished eating from them. Helps keep the pack >> hierarchy clear ;) > >I should add that the only reason I am against feeding dogs from the >table is that dinner guests sometimes aren't into dogs and don't want a >dog slinking up to the table and begging. Amy is trained on the word "scram," which usually resolves such situations. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:10:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2ADkq021799 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:10:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE210@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:01 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T290I05275 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:00 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Q0JC03.HR1 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:06:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDED86.9B4103DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:08:06 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029012513.GD29444@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > I'd make a joke about a posteriori wisdom, but you wouldn't > get it and what would be the use? Actually, it was prepriori wisdom, but who pissed in your Froot Loops?: And it is because I am not as intelligent as you. Please to be kind to the challenged. > > > making which is, by the way, the reason for this post, just in > > > case you think it is respect for what passes for your intelligence > > > > Tushie, you're so cute when you get full of yourself. I forget, > > what was your MacArthur Foundation grant for again? > > Nice flame, considering .. Considering my lack of intelligence? Piss upon thee, considering. Some of us don't think flaming an adult form of discourse. If I touch the hem of your cloak will I be healed? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:10:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2ASkq021804 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:10:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A21AB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:15 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T29FI05315 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029021054.PION3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDEDC4.D89C2F4A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:09:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Oh my gosh - so do I - I had not thought of that in years. It's best, of > course, toasted with cinammon added. Cinammon toast, I believe? Finally Bethany and I share a cultural background! Yes. Cinammon toast. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:10:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2Aukq021810 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:10:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A21B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T1xgI04126 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T1xfVO028177 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDEB4C.DAD792A1@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >P.S. But I don't carry the be-considerate-of-guests idea to an >extreme. Some houseguests might not like dogs in houses at all. That's >past my polite-hostess line. If they don't like dogs in houses, they >can go home. Even if they have a severe allergy? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:12:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2C3kq021820 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:12:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A21CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044077 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:17 -0500 Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2AGI05422 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:16 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4Q00DMU0P3Z3@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:10:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:12:46 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What is a lard sandwich? At risk of being called mutant, I must admit >that I don't really know what lard is. Yes, I know the word and have >heard it for eons. But I've never really known exactly what it was >other than that it was something unhealthful that was used by some >people in cooking. It's rendered fat. I don't think it's really any less healthful than butter; there's just something about the word "lard" that seems to gross people out. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:12:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2C5kq021823 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:12:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE230@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:50 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2AQI05455 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029021205.PJPP3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:12:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDEE0B.3DBBAC36@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:10:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >a once-a-week class at UT. She wore rubber alligators. > > On what part of her anatomy? Near the top of her frumpy wool dresses. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:12:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2CBkq021828 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:12:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE233@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:58 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2AwI05511 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:58 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.137.16989626 (16335) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <137.16989626.2aef481a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:34 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Aaaaaiiiieeeee! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 8:00:28 PM Central Standard Time, bclark@UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU writes: << I'm not a vegetarian but I really don't care for much red meat, except an occasional hamburger. (The kind that the juices run down your arms when you eat it.) >> Same here: an occasional burger and pepperoni. I wonder if there is a turkey pepperoni that tastes similar to the real thing; then I can give up pork. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:15:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2F4kq021863 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:15:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE29B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:13:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:13:51 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2DoI06008 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:13:50 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-14.panax.com [63.163.41.14]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2Dnt16641 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:13:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028211248.00a17440@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:13:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Secure Beneath The Watchful Eyes In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028172644.02360d30@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >This official London Transport "Secure Beneath The Watchful Eyes" poster >handily beats the USPTO's Homeland Security eye/keyhole graphic for >spine-tingling effect: > >. >Pete The keyhole thing was scarier because it carries the idea of "without your knowledge and in your private moments". --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:17:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2H4kq021869 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:17:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE2EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:42 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2FfI06281 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029021719.PNWJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:17:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDEF46.DA8E8892@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:15:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD049.C85F8329@maynor.net> <3DBDD978.5887380C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > (Thinks: What is my style? Boring people to death?) No. One doesn't need to shoot nursing professors to be . You are far, far, far from boring! (Which would be more interesting, shooting nursing professors or shooting professors of nursing?) But neither of those is your style. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:17:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2H5kq021872 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:17:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE2ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:45 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2FiI06285 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:44 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Q0UK02.JR3 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDEF21.DF7AAFF8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:14:57 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DB9E0D1.9050600@swbell.net> <3DB9F35A.2D1E03FB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DB9FAC9.2060507@swbell.net> <168846059.20021027193430@gailndan.com> <3DBCA464.F062518A@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029014839.GG29444@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > Since this sad shipwrecked piece of nonsense misses my point in a > particularly dense way, it's probably JMW. You could learn one lesson > from this, viz: stick to the flattest, most straightforward diction > possible, especially among people who most fondly believe they are > "masters of irony" and such ... But I post mainly for enjoyment, so, > well, life will have to be tough. Alas! Tushar, you use yer mouth purtyer'n a twenty-dollar whore. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:19:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2JHkq021880 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:19:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE320@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:18:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:18:04 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2I4I06539 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:18:04 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-14.panax.com [63.163.41.14]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2I2t17587 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:18:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028211634.00a24b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:17:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBDE92C.4CD68E73@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028175742.00a0c070@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I do. Or at least I used to. Haven't seen him in many, many years. A > > >Seventh-Day Adventist I was in grad school with was a vegetarian except > > >for eating a hamburger for lunch every Friday. > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > How nice for him. Paul would accept that. As long as the guy thought of > > himself as a vegetarian, he was a vegetarian. Moral standards, reality > > checks, and the meaning of language be damned. > >He said clearly that he was a vegetarian except on Fridays. As I think >I said a little while ago, that made sense to me. He didn't say just >"I'm a vegetarian." That would not have made sense to me if he ate meat >at any time, even once a year. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) That information was not in your original post, quoted above. You said he "was a vegetarian" not that he claimed to be a vegetarian six days a week. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:19:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2JNkq021883 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:19:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE322@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:18:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:18:10 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2IAI06544 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:18:10 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2I8c25937 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:18:08 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9T2I8RG017890 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:18:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021028181931.00a42340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:20:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDEC74.6D79C40D@maynor.net> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3DBDCFE9.BBA9718D@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:03 PM 10/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: >alyce cresap wrote: > > > > > Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has > veggies in it. > > > > > > I started to say "oh yes -- that's Southern!" but then realized you said > > > veggies. I've never had veggies in jello. > > > > I've never said "veggies." Is it southern? > >I don't think so. I don't say "veggies" and don't hear it often. I >used it above because I tend to use the words that were used in the >postings I'm responding to. I have of course heard "veggies," but it's >not something I would say myself. It sounds a bit less alien to me, >however, than "mayo." As I think I said earlier, I'm not sure that I've >ever heard anybody say "mayo" in . I have heard living >beings say "veggies." It annoys me. Sounds too cute or something. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:22:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2M8kq021930 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:22:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE34A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:20:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:20:56 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2KtI06920 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:20:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029022234.PSKI3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF081.C7223957@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:20:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > I don't know why I feel this way, but in this discussion I tend to > differentiate between people who are vegetarians for health reasons > and those who are vegetarians for ethical reasons. If you're a > vegetarian for ethical reasons and you eat meat, that seems > hypocritical; if for health reasons, well, what the hell, it's your > body. That makes sense to me. It would be , imho, for somebody who is a vegetarian for ethical reasons to stray but not so bad for one who is a vegetarian for nutritional reasons. Still, though, I would not say "I'm a vegetarian" if I ate meat even occasionally. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:22:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2MKkq021933 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:22:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2415@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:21:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:21:07 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2L7I06939 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:21:07 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2L2c29703 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:02 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9T2L3RG006442; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021028182046.00a259d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:23:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <1ab.b175f37.2aef470f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:06 PM 10/28/2002 -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >In a message dated 10/28/2002 7:56:57 PM Central Standard Time, >natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > ><< >I should add that the only reason I am against feeding dogs from the >table is that dinner guests sometimes aren't into dogs and don't want a >dog slinking up to the table and begging. > > > >> > >I think the family dog is more important than dinner guests. It depends. The family dog should be well behaved, too. If not, perhaps it should be kept separate until the invited company leaves. Dog should not jump all over people for example. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:23:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2N5kq021940 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:23:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A241D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:21:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:21:52 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2LpI07001 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:21:51 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA23634 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:21:51 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A600038699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:21:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:21:50 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van Message-ID: <20021029022150.GK29444@pobox.com> References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029012513.GD29444@pobox.com> <3DBDED86.9B4103DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DBDED86.9B4103DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:08:06PM -0700, John Williams wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > I'd make a joke about a posteriori wisdom, but you wouldn't > > get it and what would be the use? > > Actually, it was prepriori wisdom, but who pissed in your Froot Loops?: > And it is because I am not as intelligent as you. Please to be kind to the > challenged. > > > > > making which is, by the way, the reason for this post, just in > > > > case you think it is respect for what passes for your intelligence > > > > > > Tushie, you're so cute when you get full of yourself. I forget, > > > what was your MacArthur Foundation grant for again? > > > > Nice flame, considering .. > > Considering my lack of intelligence? > Piss upon thee, considering. Some of us don't think flaming an adult form > of discourse. > If I touch the hem of your cloak will I be healed? Thanks for the update. The conclusion, of course, is that I think I am so damn smart I can barely condescend to talk to you. Let me close this by saying this: if when faced with a problem someone makes a nice vague expansive prediction such as "the answer must be X or Y or Z!", that has zero value, even if the answer turns out X. On the other hand, someone who even starts with nothing and but finds X gets all the points. At this point if the first guy says "I told you", he is what I described--an incompetent, chip-on-the-shoulder, and almost always whiney and patronizing shit at the end of bar. But if he did get a groovy county/mountie rhyme in, overall all is well ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:24:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2ODkq021953 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:24:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE373@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:00 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2N0I07139 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:00 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T2Mwj09232 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:22:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002e01c27ef2$566a7d00$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:24:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" To: Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports > At 07:26 PM 10/28/2002 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > >On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Betty Clark wrote: > > > > >I remember butter and sugar on white bread. > > > >Oh my gosh - so do I - I had not thought of that in years. It's best, of > >course, toasted with cinammon added. Cinammon toast, I believe? > > I much preferred that. My father would break up break in a bowl, add milk > and sugar, and eat. > > Betty Warm milk. And a little butter. And cinnamon. In a rather flat bowl. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:25:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2PBkq021959 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:25:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A243D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2NwI07234 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:58 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-14.panax.com [63.163.41.14]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2Nut18827 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212247.00a22980@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:23:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021028181931.00a42340@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3DBDEC74.6D79C40D@maynor.net> <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3DBDCFE9.BBA9718D@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>As I think I said earlier, I'm not sure that I've >>ever heard anybody say "mayo" in . I have heard living >>beings say "veggies." > >It annoys me. Sounds too cute or something. >Betty You don't like any word that ends in the ie sound. You flamed me once for using the word hubby. You should change your name to Bett. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:26:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2Qokq021969 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE398@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2FHI06241 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T2FFVO004598 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBDEE0B.3DBBAC36@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >a once-a-week class at UT. She wore rubber alligators. >> >> On what part of her anatomy? > >Near the top of her frumpy wool dresses. How big were they? What color were they? How many? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:27:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2R0kq021978 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:27:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE39B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:48 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2PmI07411 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029022726.PWUE3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:27:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF1A5.2846B23C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:25:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028200231.00a16530@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I also know at least one vegetarian who is so for > aesthetic reasons. He just doesn't like meat and has been that way since a > child. Well, sure. That would be my reason to be a vegetarian. I've never been crazy about meat, and the older I get, the less I like it. Something about it sort of grosses me out. I have said all this before -- that my leaning toward vegetarianism isn't about ethics or about nutrition. It's about being turned off by meat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:27:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2Rckq021983 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:27:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE3A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:26:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:26:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2QPI07464 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:26:25 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-14.panax.com [63.163.41.14]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2QNt19205 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:26:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212513.00a1a940@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:26:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What is a lard sandwich? At risk of being called mutant, I must admit >that I don't really know what lard is. -- Natalie Did Janet's answer of "rendered fat" mean anything to you? Think of the grease that's left in the pan after you fry bacon. That's lard. And often it was exactly that which my parents smeared on bread and ate. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:28:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2Spkq021990 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:28:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE3B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:27:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:27:38 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2RcI07553 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:27:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029022917.PYHF3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:29:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF213.56E4E09@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:27:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <148.16e97ea.2aef38ad@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > When I used to eat peanut butter, I would put sugar or honey > on it. Interesting -- I don't like the thought of sugar on peanut butter but have had plenty of pb-and-honey sandwiches in my life. I don't know why I make that distinction. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:29:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2TYkq021995 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:29:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE3BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:28:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:28:21 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2SLI07603 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:28:21 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021029022815.LCZD25411.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:28:15 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028182606.039207f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:28:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Secure Beneath The Watchful Eyes In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028211248.00a17440@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028172644.02360d30@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev writes, >The keyhole thing was scarier because it carries the idea of "without your >knowledge and in your private moments". I think SBTWE is scarier because it's for widespread public consumption, and because as one commenter wrote, it "looks like a 50's sci-fi magazine cover for the dystopian future of 2002," or like _1984_ come to life. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:32:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2WQkq022031 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:32:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE3EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:31:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:31:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:aDVIrDkmIyjqKeTVOqXbCHK5pePhSyzj@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2LDI06949 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:21:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D752FE48 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 454B47C3A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDEAD1.B9F9A333@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 28, 2002 7:56:33 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:21:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029022112.454B47C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I should add that the only reason I am against feeding dogs from the > table is that dinner guests sometimes aren't into dogs and don't want a > dog slinking up to the table and begging. I went to visit some Huskies this afternoon and discovered that they don't slink up to the table and beg, they knock you down and try to dine on you in the doorway. I love the noise they make, that not-exactly-a-howl. One of these dogs has the doggy-walker I provided the URL for. His lower body has atrophied terribly since the last time I saw him, in August. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:32:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2WRkq022034 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:32:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE3EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:31:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:31:14 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2VEI07853 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:31:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.249]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029023253.QBLO3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:32:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF2EB.AF00BBB2@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:31:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029012721.D728E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Are you saying that you want the grains of rice to be undiscernible in > > rice pudding? Not me. I don't want mush. I like seeing and feeling > > the grains of rice. > > Yes, but the grains shouldn't be grainy. Well, certainly they should be soft and gooey. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:34:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2Yokq022038 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:34:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE40E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:33:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:33:38 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2XbI08073 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:33:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T2Xaj19479 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:33:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006701c27ef3$d2578920$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029015157.GI29444@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:35:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:51:20PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > Er, I think I probably am taking you wrong, > > but your message reads, to me, like this: > > I have a lot of knowledge and you > > have none, so I don't think I want to > > talk to you. > > I always sound like that, to a small but significant proportion > of people. I haven't found a solution to that. What's a solution > to "you think you are so damn smarty-fart"? Maybe it is to listen. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:36:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2awkq022045 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:36:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE428@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:35:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:35:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ElvEtmcaUEW/SYGWC+xzli3YJTGEhD4l@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2P7I07374 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA0E2FEE4 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A36F7C11; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 28, 2002 8:59:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029022506.8A36F7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > Even if they have a severe allergy? If you have a severe allergy, you don't visit people with pets, or you negotiate for a pet-free space, that's cleaned and sealed off. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:37:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2b0kq022048 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:37:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE42B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:35:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:35:43 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2ZbI08276 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:35:37 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Q1RP03.IS2 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:33:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDF3CA.9EF79ADE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:34:50 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <002e01c27ef2$566a7d00$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Warm milk. And a little butter. > And cinnamon. In a rather flat bowl. > > - D. M. Milktoast! JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:37:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2bHkq022051 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:37:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE430@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:36:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:36:05 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2a4I08319 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:36:04 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T2a3j21862 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:36:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007801c27ef4$29eb4640$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021029022112.454B47C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:37:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie Maynor said: > > I should add that the only reason I am against feeding dogs from the > > table is that dinner guests sometimes aren't into dogs and don't want a > > dog slinking up to the table and begging. I have actually been a dinner guest in someone's home and after dinner the host leaned over and held his plate out for his dog to lick. This was before dessert, yet. It was pretty yucky, but to many dog lovers this is just routine. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:42:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2g1kq022306 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:42:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE46B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:40:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046636 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:40:48 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2emI08751 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:40:48 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2ekc22257 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:40:46 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9T2ekRG029841 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:40:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021028184238.00a469e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:42:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDF3CA.9EF79ADE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <002e01c27ef2$566a7d00$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:34 PM 10/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > > > Warm milk. And a little butter. > > And cinnamon. In a rather flat bowl. > > > > - D. M. > > Milktoast! Nice flame, John. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:43:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2gxkq022311 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:42:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2550@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:41:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:41:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XhE028DTFcIk4lI1Ba5IlQV97b73Nbkt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2VjI07876 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:31:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F1E2FEE5 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E96ED7C0C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:31:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212513.00a1a940@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 28, 2002 9:26:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:31:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029023144.E96ED7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > Did Janet's answer of "rendered fat" mean anything to you? Think of the > grease that's left in the pan after you fry bacon. That's lard. And often > it was exactly that which my parents smeared on bread and ate. I thought bacon fat was different from lard. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:43:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2hRkq022315 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:43:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE486@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:42:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:42:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:TMoM0oKkmpOxt1Gt7i/0qZguN/10bhM0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2WEI07959 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:32:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7BE2FEE5 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D304E7C0D; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDF2EB.AF00BBB2@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 28, 2002 8:31: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:32:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029023213.D304E7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Are you saying that you want the grains of rice to be undiscernible in > > > rice pudding? Not me. I don't want mush. I like seeing and feeling > > > the grains of rice. > > > > Yes, but the grains shouldn't be grainy. > > Well, certainly they should be soft and gooey. Not mushy, though. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:44:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2iukq022322 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:44:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE499@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:43:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:43:44 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2hhI09044 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:43:43 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-58.panax.com [65.114.190.58]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2hgt22572 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:43:42 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214315.00a1be40@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:43:35 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029023144.E96ED7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212513.00a1a940@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I thought bacon fat was different from lard. >Karen I believe that when it is rendered out of the bacon, it is lard. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:45:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2jLkq022346 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:45:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE4A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:44:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:44:08 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2i8I09083 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:44:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029024545.UCIR27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:45:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF5EF.CE25A377@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:43:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Tushar: > > Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" > > etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions > > all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge > > must exist before conversation is even possible. > > Er, I think I probably am taking you wrong, > but your message reads, to me, like this: > I have a lot of knowledge and you > have none, so I don't think I want to > talk to you. > > And I think that is probably best. > But no hard feelings, okay? I like this. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:47:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2lWkq022360 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:47:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE4CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:46:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:46:17 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2kHI09314 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:46:17 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA02922 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:46:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B34DE38699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:46:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:46:16 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive Message-ID: <20021029024616.GL29444@pobox.com> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029015157.GI29444@pobox.com> <006701c27ef3$d2578920$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006701c27ef3$d2578920$9d0332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:35:18PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Er, I think I probably am taking you wrong, > > > but your message reads, to me, like this: > > > I have a lot of knowledge and you > > > have none, so I don't think I want to > > > talk to you. > > > > I always sound like that, to a small but significant proportion > > of people. I haven't found a solution to that. What's a solution > > to "you think you are so damn smarty-fart"? > > Maybe it is to listen. Thanks, I have made a note of it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:48:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2lxkq022364 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:47:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE4D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:46:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:46:46 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2kkI09342 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:46:46 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T2kij03548 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:46:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c27ef5$a84cfbe0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <002e01c27ef2$566a7d00$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBDF3CA.9EF79ADE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:48:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > Warm milk. And a little butter. > > And cinnamon. In a rather flat bowl. > > > > - D. M. > > Milktoast! > > JMW Yes! I had forgotten about it. It was good on a cold morning. It was my father's favorite. In his later years, when he suffered from cancer and could eat very little, this was one thing he returned to and could tolerate for a time. It was probably the last thing he ate. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:50:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2opkq022503 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:50:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE4FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:49:39 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2ncI09638 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:49:38 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-58.panax.com [65.114.190.58]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2nbt23517 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:49:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214547.00a1f740@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:49:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: So We are Naive In-Reply-To: <3DBDF5EF.CE25A377@maynor.net> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Tushar: > > > Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" > > > etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions > > > all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge > > > must exist before conversation is even possible. Just in case Tushar is sincere in wanting to know how he can sound like less of a smarty-pants, here's a suggestion or two. First of all, never say "don't take this wrong". That immediately puts people on guard that you are going to insult them. You might have phrased the above: "Before I share my opinions on this topic, I think we need to build an agreed-upon foundation. I'll state my beliefs and knowledge on the topic and then you can respond with what you know. We'll take it from there." --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:51:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2pfkq022510 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE50B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:50:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:50:29 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2oTI09760 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:50:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029025208.UIFH27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:52:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF76E.1FD60D3B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:50:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >P.S. But I don't carry the be-considerate-of-guests idea to an > >extreme. Some houseguests might not like dogs in houses at all. That's > >past my polite-hostess line. If they don't like dogs in houses, they > >can go home. > > Even if they have a severe allergy? I don't think I've ever known anybody with a severe allergy to dogs, but I would assume that such a person would inquire about the dogginess of a house before accepting an invitation to enter it. I don't consider doglessness the default. Iow, I think it's up to that person to check out the dogginess before coming. And if a person did have a severe dog allergy, he/she had best stay away. Putting the dog outside during the time the person was present would surely not take care of the problem. The allergens would be mightily present in the house. So yes in answer to your question. Somebody severely allergic to dogs would be stupid to come into my house. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:52:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2qgkq022519 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE517@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:51:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:51:29 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2pTI09818 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:51:29 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Q2I500.SRS for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:49:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDF781.6A1ACC61@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:50:42 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029012513.GD29444@pobox.com> <3DBDED86.9B4103DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029022150.GK29444@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Thanks for the update. The conclusion, of course, is that > I think I am so damn smart I can barely condescend to talk > to you. Let me close this by saying this: if when faced > with a problem someone makes a nice vague expansive prediction > such as "the answer must be X or Y or Z!", that has zero value, > even if the answer turns out X. On the other hand, someone who > even starts with nothing and but finds X gets all the points. > At this point if the first guy says "I told you", he is what > I described--an incompetent, chip-on-the-shoulder, and almost > always whiney and patronizing shit at the end of bar. But if > he did get a groovy county/mountie rhyme in, overall all is > well ... Okay, I can see the problem here. Tushar, adjust the meds. Additionally, your of view Words-L as some sort of textural video game in which your admitted, and admirable, command of English, can be displayed. I don't. Confession Time: I went to Wordstock fully prepared to punch out your lights. I hadn't been so infuriated by another's arrogance to the point of physical violence since the seventh grade. I was actually looking forward to it, I'm ashamed to say. Until I met you in person. I'd as lief kick a stray dog. You wouldn't even shake my hand, much less raise your gaze above your bare feet. I think we both knew what the situation was. Stop it. Be nice for a change. Who are you trying to impress? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:52:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2qwkq022523 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE519@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:51:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:51:45 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2pjI09828 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:51:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029025324.UJLB27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:53:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF7BA.FCB450A3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:51:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > Please forgive me, Evelyn! > >> > > You're forgiven. Thank you. You are a good person. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:54:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2rxkq022646 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:54:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE525@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:52:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:52:47 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2qkI09925 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:52:46 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T2qij09665 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002101c27ef6$7f20b620$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214547.00a1f740@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:54:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Tushar: > > > > Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" > > > > etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions > > > > all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge > > > > must exist before conversation is even possible. > > Just in case Tushar is sincere in wanting to know how he can sound like > less of a smarty-pants, here's a suggestion or two. First of all, never > say "don't take this wrong". That immediately puts people on guard that > you are going to insult them. You might have phrased the above: "Before I > share my opinions on this topic, I think we need to build an agreed-upon > foundation. I'll state my beliefs and knowledge on the topic and then you > can respond with what you know. We'll take it from there." > > > --bonniev Very nice. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:54:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2swkq022657 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:54:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE535@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:53:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:53:44 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2riI10005 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:53:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029025523.ULCV27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:55:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF832.D5E2943E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:53:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <1ab.b175f37.2aef470f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > I should add that the only reason I am against feeding dogs from the > table is that dinner guests sometimes aren't into dogs and don't want a > dog slinking up to the table and begging. > >> > > I think the family dog is more important than dinner guests. I agree. But I also think it's not a bad thing for a dog to be expected not to hang around a dinner table expecting food scraps. Since I never eat at a table except when guests are present, this isn't much of a problem. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:57:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2vBkq022904 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:57:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE554@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:55:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:55:58 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2twI10137 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:55:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029025737.UNDA27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:57:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:55:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > > >What is a lard sandwich? At risk of being called mutant, I must admit > >that I don't really know what lard is. Yes, I know the word and have > >heard it for eons. But I've never really known exactly what it was > >other than that it was something unhealthful that was used by some > >people in cooking. > > It's rendered fat. I don't think it's really any less healthful than > butter; there's just something about the word "lard" that seems to > gross people out. How does one buy it? Like what does it look like in a grocery store? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:59:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2xDkq023143 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE568@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:57:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:58:00 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2vxI10280 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:57:59 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Q2SZ00.8R1 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:55:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDF908.E38C435B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:57:12 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <002e01c27ef2$566a7d00$9d0332d1@0018079268> <4.2.2.20021028184238.00a469e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Milktoast! > > Nice flame, John. > > Betty That wasn't a flame. I like[d] milktoast. JMW ps - unless that was something , in which case I didn't get it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 20:59:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T2xSkq023152 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:59:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE56B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:58:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:58:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+GEHa2a+PmUjUMS0fA0an0KafK7ndT2P@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2mFI09488 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:48:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD712FF94 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9B06E7C0A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214315.00a1be40@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 28, 2002 9:43:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:48:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029024814.9B06E7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >I thought bacon fat was different from lard. > >Karen > > I believe that when it is rendered out of the bacon, it is lard. I don't think think epicurious.com agrees with you: "lard n. RENDERED and CLARIFIEDpork fat, the quality of which depends on the area the fat came from and the method of rendering. The very best is leaf lard, which comes from the fat around the animal's kidneys. Unprocessed lard has quite a strong flavor and a soft texture. Lard can be processed in many ways including filtering, bleaching, hydrogenation and emulsification. In general, processed lard is firmer (about the consistency of VEGETABLE SHORTENING), has a milder, more nutlike flavor and a longer shelf life. Lard is richer than many other fats and therefore makes extremely tender, flaky biscuits and pastries." I can't imagine making pastry with bacon grease. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:02:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T32Jkq023307 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:02:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE598@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:01:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:01:06 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T316I10572 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:01:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029030245.URWA27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:02:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDF9EB.D7D1E703@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:00:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> >a once-a-week class at UT. She wore rubber alligators. > >> > >> On what part of her anatomy? > > > >Near the top of her frumpy wool dresses. > > How big were they? What color were they? How many? Maybe an inch or two long, with the width appropriate for the length. And with little depth -- as in they didn't stick way out like fat alligators might. I don't remember the color. Only one. I should probably not have said "they" re not sticking out since I'm thinking she probably had just one alligator. For sure she never wore more than one at the same time. Is Percy Adams still alive and in Knoxville? She was in his Dryden/Swift seminar. Can't remember now the exact quarter. I'm thinking maybe winter quarter of '75. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:02:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T32Pkq023310 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:02:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A26A9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:01:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:01:08 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T318I10581 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:01:08 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.16]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Q2Y801.YTK for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:58:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBDF9C5.1FC65200@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:00:21 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > How does one buy it? Like what does it look like in a grocery store? Around these parts it comes in chunks resembling smallish white bricks. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:03:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T33fkq023325 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:03:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE5AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:02:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:02:28 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T32SI10711 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:02:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029030407.UTGZ27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:04:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDFA3D.E486CD20@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:02:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028175742.00a0c070@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028211634.00a24b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > > >I do. Or at least I used to. Haven't seen him in many, many years. A > > > >Seventh-Day Adventist I was in grad school with was a vegetarian except > > > >for eating a hamburger for lunch every Friday. > > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > > > How nice for him. Paul would accept that. As long as the guy thought of > > > himself as a vegetarian, he was a vegetarian. Moral standards, reality > > > checks, and the meaning of language be damned. > > > >He said clearly that he was a vegetarian except on Fridays. As I think > >I said a little while ago, that made sense to me. He didn't say just > >"I'm a vegetarian." That would not have made sense to me if he ate meat > >at any time, even once a year. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > That information was not in your original post, quoted above. You said he > "was a vegetarian" not that he claimed to be a vegetarian six days a week. Hmm. Seems to me it says "except" re his Friday thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:04:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T34Wkq023451 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:04:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A26D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:03:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:03:19 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T33II10793 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:03:18 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T33Hj20299 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:03:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c27ef7$f7e99ee0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:04:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > It's rendered fat. I don't think it's really any less healthful than > > butter; there's just something about the word "lard" that seems to > > gross people out. > > How does one buy it? Like what does it look like in a grocery store? > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I haven't bought any for years but if I remember correctly, it comes just as butter does, in a block, wrapped in waxed paper, in a waxy cardboard box. Looks like a lb of butter, but it's white. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:08:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T38mkq023694 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:08:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE5F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:07:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:07:35 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T37ZI11333 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:07:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029030914.UYRL27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:09:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDFB70.855DA213@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:07:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3DBDCFE9.BBA9718D@valstar.net> <4.2.2.20021028181931.00a42340@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > As I think I said earlier, I'm not sure that I've > >ever heard anybody say "mayo" in . I have heard living > >beings say "veggies." > > It annoys me. Sounds too cute or something. I agree. I put "veggies" in the category with somebody wearing "jammies" to sleep or putting things in "the fridge." Somehow "mayo" is in a slightly different category for me. "Mayo" doesn't strike me as cutsie as much as it strikes me as being said in a heavy Bronx accent. Sort of like [dIm] for "them" or [nuz] for "news." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T39Akq023697 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE5F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:07:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:07:57 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T37vI11361 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:07:57 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T37tc19846 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:07:55 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9T37tRG029025 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:07:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021028190703.00a477a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:09:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDF908.E38C435B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <002e01c27ef2$566a7d00$9d0332d1@0018079268> <4.2.2.20021028184238.00a469e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:57 PM 10/28/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > Milktoast! > > > > Nice flame, John. > > > > Betty > > That wasn't a flame. I like[d] milktoast. > >JMW > >ps - unless that was something , in which case I didn't get it. It must have gone right over your head but "Before I share my opinions on this topic, I think we need to build an agreed-upon foundation. I'll state my beliefs and knowledge on the topic and then you can respond with what you know. We'll take it from there." Bett From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:10:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3AOkq023703 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:10:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE5FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:09:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:09:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:/FhZC80tF7HZlKFmPmGu1zu75jX/GMFZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T2xAI10350 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:59:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3552FF23 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 40CB97C11; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:59:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 28, 2002 8:55:51 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:59:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029025910.40CB97C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Janet Hardy wrote: > > > > >What is a lard sandwich? At risk of being called mutant, I must admit > > >that I don't really know what lard is. Yes, I know the word and have > > >heard it for eons. But I've never really known exactly what it was > > >other than that it was something unhealthful that was used by some > > >people in cooking. > > > > It's rendered fat. I don't think it's really any less healthful than > > butter; there's just something about the word "lard" that seems to > > gross people out. > > How does one buy it? Like what does it look like in a grocery store? It's often with the Crisco--or with the Mexican food. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:13:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3Dnkq023719 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:13:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE633@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:12:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048251 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:12:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3CZI11692 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:12:35 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-58.panax.com [65.114.190.58]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3CYt28004 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:12:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028221142.00a2cc50@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:12:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021028190703.00a477a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3DBDF908.E38C435B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <002e01c27ef2$566a7d00$9d0332d1@0018079268> <4.2.2.20021028184238.00a469e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It must have gone right over your head but "Before I >share my opinions on this topic, I think we need to build an agreed-upon >foundation. I'll state my beliefs and knowledge on the topic and then you >can respond with what you know. We'll take it from there." >Bett I'm being made fun of. I think I may have to take my Scrabble tiles and go to bed. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:15:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3FSkq023749 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:14 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3EEI11793 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:14 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.62.249]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4Q00B5M3NQEJ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:14:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:14:31 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: 100,000 March in San Francisco. Media Fail to Notice. To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBDFD17.2040708@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028084346.02d00ae0@mail.istori.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Local march got some media attention, but I didn't see anything national. Peter Kaminski wrote: > Hey, Rita: In his rant, John Perry Barlow asked readers to get out to the > anti-war marches this weekend. He says 100K people showed up in SF, but > the media couldn't be bothered to care. I blogged his account: > http://www.istori.com/log/ > > Pete > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:15:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3Fokq023753 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:15:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:37 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3EbI11809 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029031616.VFUR27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:16:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDFD16.B75077F7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:14:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212513.00a1a940@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Did Janet's answer of "rendered fat" mean anything to you? Think of the > grease that's left in the pan after you fry bacon. That's lard. And often > it was exactly that which my parents smeared on bread and ate. I've heard the term "rendered fat" but don't really know what it means. Janet's answer, however, was meaningful in that she said it was really pretty much like butter. I do know what bacon grease is. Now *that* is something that is thought to be a Southern delicacy, although I personally find it nasty. Southern cooking of vegetables often inclues bacon grease. As I said, I do not personally partake, and I find it nauseating. But then people have often told me that I have Yankee eating preferences. I'm happy that our cafeteria has several different places offering vegetables, some under a banner saying "Southern Cooking," meaning dead pig juices, overcooking, and salt. I choose the other line for my vegetables. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:17:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3H8kq023766 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:17:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE666@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:15:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:15:55 -0500 Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3FtI11900 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:15:55 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.d6.1e9c81d9 (2519) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:15:41 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:15:40 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 8:52:05 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Thank you. You are a good person. >> No, I'm not. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:17:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3HNkq023769 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:17:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A27E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:16:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:16:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bS6j5ZSwlAiT5DNtOfdrAIikopqCUG7E@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T369I11156 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:06:10 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DBE2FDCA for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 320467C0A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:06:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: travel plans In-Reply-To: <20021029013313.GE29444@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Oct 28, 2002 7:33:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:06:09 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029030609.320467C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:29:54PM -0700, Karen Kay wrote: > > > My point is does it have liberal doses > > > of complicated slang? > > > > Doesn't every lg? > > Some dialects, or I guess registers is the word, can have > more than others. True. > And I see now that neither liberal nor > complicated is the key property, it's fast-changing that > may make it difficult. I could tell from talking to my > brother-in-law that I will sound slow and stupid in > Bombay--I mean more than I used do. Well, you've been here a long time, baby. So, what's your schedule like on the 27th? Might you be free in the afternoon? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:19:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3JHkq023780 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:19:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE68B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:18:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:18:05 -0500 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3I4I12128 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:18:04 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.6d.e9aa00 (2519) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:17:39 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.e9aa00.2aef57d3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:17:39 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 8:56:30 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << How does one buy it? Like what does it look like in a grocery store? >> It comes in a can, similar to Crisco. If your store has a Mexican section, try there. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:20:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3KGkq023786 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:20:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FE69C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:19:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:19:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ZytbH3MVGdSMofqTuEcdnA7XHoJRQPCI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T392I11447 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:09:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C702FDFB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 31D187C0A; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:09:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDFB70.855DA213@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 28, 2002 9: 7:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:09:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029030902.31D187C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Sort of like [dIm] for "them" or [nuz] for "news." 'nyewz' always sounds so affected to me. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:24:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3Oqkq023807 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:24:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2833@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:23:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048721 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:23:39 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3NdI12804 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:23:39 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.106.1a9412fd (2519) for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:23:32 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <106.1a9412fd.2aef5933@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:23:31 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/28/2002 9:07:42 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << "Mayo" doesn't strike me as cutsie as much as it strikes me as being said in a heavy Bronx accent. >> It's a shortcut word, similar to "Dog me." as a shortcut for "Give me a hot dog." Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:25:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3Pkkq023812 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE6EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:24:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:24:30 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3OTI12893 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:24:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029032608.HMV24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDFF65.6633B02F@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:24:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029023213.D304E7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > Yes, but the grains shouldn't be grainy. > > > > Well, certainly they should be soft and gooey. > > Not mushy, though. Right. Soft and gooey but not mushy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:26:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3Qtkq023818 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:26:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE6FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:25:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:25:42 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3PgI12995 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:25:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029032721.IKR24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:27:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBDFFAF.59918309@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:25:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029022112.454B47C3A@yellow.rahul.net> <007801c27ef4$29eb4640$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I have actually been a dinner guest in > someone's home and after dinner the > host leaned over and held his plate out > for his dog to lick. This was before > dessert, yet. It was pretty yucky, but > to many dog lovers this is just routine. It wouldn't bother me at all. But I think it's not a polite thing to do with dinner guests present. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:28:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3Sekq023830 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:28:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE711@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:27:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:27:27 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3RRI13177 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:27:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029032906.JOU24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE0018.B1EF1382@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:27:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029012513.GD29444@pobox.com> <3DBDED86.9B4103DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029022150.GK29444@pobox.com> <3DBDF781.6A1ACC61@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Confession Time: I went to Wordstock fully prepared to punch out your lights. I > hadn't been so infuriated by another's arrogance to the point of physical violence > since the seventh grade. I was actually looking forward to it, I'm ashamed to say. > Until I met you in person. I'd as lief kick a stray dog. You wouldn't even shake my > hand, much less raise your gaze above your bare feet. I think we both knew what the > situation was. Ooooh. I love confessions! Returning to our earlier discussion of people's list personae vs ftf, it is true that Tushar is quite different ftf. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:29:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3TQkq023836 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:29:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE71B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:28:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:28:13 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3SDI13234 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:28:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029032951.KCO24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE0046.35EB3247@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:28:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> <3DBDF9C5.1FC65200@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > How does one buy it? Like what does it look like in a grocery store? > > Around these parts it comes in chunks resembling smallish white bricks. Like tofu? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:30:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3Uekq023865 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:30:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2887@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:26 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3TQI13333 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.41]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029033105.LCL24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE008F.87682BAA@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:29:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> <001401c27ef7$f7e99ee0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I haven't bought any for years but if I > remember correctly, it comes just as > butter does, in a block, wrapped in > waxed paper, in a waxy cardboard box. > Looks like a lb of butter, but it's white. This is inspiring me for some grocery-store research. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:38:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3cAkq023898 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:38:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FE78C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:36:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:36:57 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3avI13940 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:36:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.8]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029033835.VMFU282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE024F.854C463A@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:36:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029030902.31D187C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Sort of like [dIm] for "them" or [nuz] for "news." > > 'nyewz' always sounds so affected to me. This is the kind of thing that makes dialectology fascinating -- and that makes perception studies a la Dennis Preston fun. "Affected" seems like something one might say about a dialect associated with groups. Southern US English is the opposite in many people's minds. Yet you find what is normal Southern pronunciation affected-sounding. I think somebody once said that here re the [hw]/[w] distinction also. That, btw, is fading fast. It's still normal in dialects of people my age in this part of the country but is vanishing rapidly in the speech of younger people. There's some slight move away from [ju] also, though [nuz] for [njuz] is still very much minority in the South. (I think the old thing still works about calling Duke, as in the university, [duk] as a put-down because of its large number of Yankees.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:53:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3r9kq023978 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:53:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A29D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:51:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:51:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3ftI14325 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:41:55 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T3fsVO016533 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:41:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDF76E.1FD60D3B@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Even if they have a severe allergy? > >I don't think I've ever known anybody with a severe allergy to dogs, but >I would assume that such a person would inquire about the dogginess of a >house before accepting an invitation to enter it. I don't consider It happens occasionally that a person discovers a severe allergy when in the presence of the allergen. So, if a guest of yours suddenly could not breathe and another person present opined that the person might be allergic to your dog - would you not remove your dog at least long enough to allow the peson to get his/her coat on and get the fuck out? Or is it just too bad if one discovers an allergy in the presence of your esteemed dog? Really, Nata!ie! Probably if you ate more iceberg lettuce ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:54:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3sHkq023986 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:54:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FE863@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:53:04 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3h4I14445 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:43:04 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T3h3VO017127 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:43:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:43:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBDF9EB.D7D1E703@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Maybe an inch or two long, with the width appropriate for the length. >And with little depth -- as in they didn't stick way out like fat >alligators might. I don't remember the color. Only one. I should >probably not have said "they" re not sticking out since I'm thinking she >probably had just one alligator. For sure she never wore more than one >at the same time. Who in th world are you talking about? (I don't think I have ever owned a rubber alligator ...) >Is Percy Adams still alive and in Knoxville? Yes. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 21:57:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T3vfkq024032 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:57:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2A57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:56:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:56:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T3kRI14715 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:46:27 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9T3kQVO018557 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:46:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:46:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDF76E.1FD60D3B@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >house before accepting an invitation to enter it. I don't consider >doglessness the default. Iow, I think it's up to that person to check Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner table. Probably I had better not accept any dinner invitations from you, Natalie - you will have to collect your free drinks at a public . Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:01:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T41dkq024193 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:01:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2BB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:00:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3051220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:00:25 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T40PI16142 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:00:25 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T40Nc13863 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:00:23 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9T40NRG024624 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:00:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021028200135.00a4a7d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: <3DBDF76E.1FD60D3B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:46 PM 10/28/2002 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >house before accepting an invitation to enter it. I don't consider > >doglessness the default. Iow, I think it's up to that person to check > >Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner >table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner >table. Probably I had better not accept any dinner invitations from you, >Natalie - you will have to collect your free drinks at a public >. Why are you getting all snotty? Bett From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:03:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T43Vkq024199 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:03:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A2CE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:02:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3052104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:02:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:TkNgXGlyd348AQGV6uqmaKugDG118G+m@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T42GI16832 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:02:16 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576D92FFA7 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 28A2F2B1CC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B16D2B139 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:02:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214547.00a1f740@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > you are going to insult them. You might have phrased the above: "Before I > share my opinions on this topic, I think we need to build an agreed-upon > foundation. I'll state my beliefs and knowledge on the topic and then you > can respond with what you know. We'll take it from there." This reminds me of when I taught in an elementary school in Ann Arbor (special teacher: French, in a compulsory program); and there was such a bad boy in Miss X's Fifth Grade class that they doped him up and he became a model zombie. Tushar, with *that* prose? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:06:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T463kq024212 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:06:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FEA55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:04:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3053371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:04:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T44nI17459 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:04:49 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E5262FFDA for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id EA6732B1CC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68642B139 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:04:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028221142.00a2cc50@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, bonniev wrote: > I'm being made fun of. I think I may have to take my Scrabble tiles and go > to bed. No, no, I think you have a great future with some Human Resources Department! Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:06:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T46qkq024221 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:06:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FEA88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:05:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3053724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:05:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:yWa6zyfsFaIoRia5OOWvvBLmepES5NOR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T45dI17660 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:05:39 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA922FFDB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 702F62B1CC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568C52B139 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:05:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:05:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Thank you. You are a good person. > > No, I'm not. Neither am I. Neither is Natalie ha ha ha From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:14:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T4EUkq024372 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:14:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FEB85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:13:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:13:16 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T4DGI18941 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:13:16 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA02129 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:13:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 507F638699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:13:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:13:15 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the white van Message-ID: <20021029041315.GA18406@pobox.com> References: <177855937853.20021025104534@gailndan.com> <3DB985AF.BACCD0FD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021025222043.GG3741@pobox.com> <3DB9EA37.EF4401E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029012513.GD29444@pobox.com> <3DBDED86.9B4103DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021029022150.GK29444@pobox.com> <3DBDF781.6A1ACC61@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DBDF781.6A1ACC61@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:50:42PM -0700, John Williams wrote: > Okay, I can see the problem here. > Tushar, adjust the meds. > Additionally, your of view Words-L as some sort of textural video > game in which your admitted, and admirable, command of English, can be > displayed. I don't. > Confession Time: I went to Wordstock fully prepared to punch out > your lights. I hadn't been so infuriated by another's arrogance to the > point of physical violence since the seventh grade. I was actually > looking forward to it, I'm ashamed to say. Until I met you in person. > I'd as lief kick a stray dog. You wouldn't even shake my hand, much > less raise your gaze above your bare feet. I think we both knew what > the situation was. > Stop it. Be nice for a change. Who are you trying to impress? Yeah, I know ... I was so afraid of you I couldn't even look you in the eye, and wasn't courageous enough to even shake your hand, couldn't engage you in a man-to-man fight when I saw the dangerous glint in your eye, and hence you couldn't honorably raise your arm against a petty sniveller like me. Since I don't remember a single detail of this, consider the possibility that you created the whole story for the benefit of a tragically foiled drop-kick. Meanwhile, you have gotten humorless, offense-taking and impossible to talk to for precisely these out-of-control fantasies. Now, on to being nice: except for a couple of bizarre freaks, I haven't heard a single foreigner say "death to America", even in a cryptic foreigner language. In fact, I haven't even heard the supposedly ubiquitous small-time staple "anti- American" remarks much, since hanging out with a bunch of somewhat mean- minded Europeans many years ago. As for me personally, I have more pro- American and even conservative opinions than anybody here might think, but I do not like to (a) take that stupid patriarchal shrilly-sarcastic tone that often comes with the view (b) definitely not air it when put in a spot by J Random Guy testing my pro-American credentials. And I don't much care for the tone which implies I can't criticize what I see around me. Give me respect, then I might talk. Now here's a very standard type of character that your alas-impotent "kick you like a stray dog" muttering reminds me of. That character is the kind of lowlife--generally drunk--which you encounter the night bombers fly out. If any military is going out anywhere, you can be sure that some lowlife will come up to you and make some dumb indirect threat of physical violence. I guess I could pay the price of being a dead ringer for Saddam or just move to some ultra-safe gated community, so it's my fault entirely, but overall I don't shake the hand of any such person, and only stare back if it's really impossible to look somewhere else. Anyway, I am not equating you to them, your stance after all being the product of rational list-reading spanning a decade. Thanks for letting me know, though, that I infuriated you to the point of physical violence. I must indeed adjust my meds. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:17:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T4HLkq024529 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:17:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FEBA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:16:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:16:07 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T4G7I19190 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:16:07 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA03029 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:16:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id EE2DA38699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:16:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:16:06 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive Message-ID: <20021029041606.GB18406@pobox.com> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214547.00a1f740@pop3.norton.antivirus> <002101c27ef6$7f20b620$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002101c27ef6$7f20b620$9d0332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:54:26PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > Tushar: > > > > > Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" > > > > > etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions > > > > > all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge > > > > > must exist before conversation is even possible. > > > > Just in case Tushar is sincere in wanting to know how he can sound like > > less of a smarty-pants, here's a suggestion or two. First of all, never > > say "don't take this wrong". That immediately puts people on guard that > > you are going to insult them. You might have phrased the above: "Before > > I share my opinions on this topic, I think we need to build an > > agreed-upon foundation. I'll state my beliefs and knowledge on the > > topic and then you can respond with what you know. We'll take it from > > there." > > Very nice. Well D.M., I will have to ask you simply NOT to take it wrong. You must to believe that that's what I literally mean. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:19:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T4J3kq024660 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:19:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A31D6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:17:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:17:49 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T4HnI19326 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:17:49 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA03554 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:17:48 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7730538699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:17:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:17:48 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: travel plans Message-ID: <20021029041748.GC18406@pobox.com> References: <20021029013313.GE29444@pobox.com> <20021029030609.320467C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021029030609.320467C0A@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:06:09PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > My point is does it have liberal doses > > > > of complicated slang? > > > > > > Doesn't every lg? > > > > Some dialects, or I guess registers is the word, can have > > more than others. > > True. > > > And I see now that neither liberal nor > > complicated is the key property, it's fast-changing that > > may make it difficult. I could tell from talking to my > > brother-in-law that I will sound slow and stupid in > > Bombay--I mean more than I used do. > > Well, you've been here a long time, baby. > > So, what's your schedule like on the 27th? Might you be free in the > afternoon? Highly likely. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:29:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T4T4kq024846 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FEC57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:27:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:27:50 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T4RoI20039 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:27:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T4Rnj15536 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:27:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c27f03$c7d5c420$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214547.00a1f740@pop3.norton.antivirus> <002101c27ef6$7f20b620$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029041606.GB18406@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:29:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:54:26PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > Tushar: > > > > > > Don't take this wrong, but "you have as much of a right" > > > > > > etc is not good enough. You might want to hear my opinions > > > > > > all right, but some semblance of a common base of knowledge > > > > > > must exist before conversation is even possible. > > > > > > Just in case Tushar is sincere in wanting to know how he can sound like > > > less of a smarty-pants, here's a suggestion or two. First of all, never > > > say "don't take this wrong". That immediately puts people on guard that > > > you are going to insult them. You might have phrased the above: "Before > > > I share my opinions on this topic, I think we need to build an > > > agreed-upon foundation. I'll state my beliefs and knowledge on the > > > topic and then you can respond with what you know. We'll take it from > > > there." > > > > Very nice. > > Well D.M., I will have to ask you simply NOT to take it wrong. > You must to believe that that's what I literally mean. Of course you do. You just need a secretary like Bonnie. Anyway, I've given up worrying about the world and have moved on to worrying about Robert Blake. Now this man really needs help. Every move he makes gets him in deeper. Now he's said he is going on with Diane Sawyer, so his attorney quit. All this when they've just found a gun and a pair of gloves in a box wired up to the inside roof of a barn on his property. And I doubt that he has a even cockatoo left to talk to. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:34:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T4YRkq024895 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:34:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FEC96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:33:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:33:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YF0ST7mx7GSqIOvyD2vO3bJIaizijTd6@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T4NCI19710 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:23:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530732FFED for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0FA8C7C0C; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:23:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 28, 2002 10:41:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:23:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029042312.0FA8C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > It happens occasionally that a person discovers a severe allergy when in > the presence of the allergen. So, if a guest of yours suddenly could not > breathe and another person present opined that the person might be > allergic to your dog - would you not remove your dog at least long enough > to allow the peson to get his/her coat on and get the fuck out? Or is it > just too bad if one discovers an allergy in the presence of your esteemed > dog? As someone who is allergic to everything with fur, I find your question quite odd. If your allergy is severe enough for you to be unable to breathe removing the pet ain't going to do much. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 22:45:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T4jukq025243 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:45:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FED32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:44:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3056470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:44:38 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T4ibI21315 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:44:37 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA11945 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:44:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0CBE638699; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:44:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:44:36 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: So We are Naive Message-ID: <20021029044436.GF18406@pobox.com> References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214547.00a1f740@pop3.norton.antivirus> <002101c27ef6$7f20b620$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029041606.GB18406@pobox.com> <000601c27f03$c7d5c420$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000601c27f03$c7d5c420$9d0332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Of course you do. You just need a > secretary like Bonnie. > > Anyway, I've given up worrying about > the world and have moved on to worrying > about Robert Blake. Now this man > really needs help. Every move he makes > gets him in deeper. Now he's said he is > going on with Diane Sawyer, so his > attorney quit. All this when they've just > found a gun and a pair of gloves in a > box wired up to the inside roof of a > barn on his property. And I doubt that > he has a even cockatoo left to talk to. > > - D. M. How about some William Blake instead. "The Eternal Female groan'd! it was heard over all the Earth" 1.5 points for knowing what he is talking about ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 23:27:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T5RQkq027200 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:27:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A35C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 0:26:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3056758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:25:52 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GU5uJeIuoAUMLAQTncI1FJp0TS40NLND@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T4q1I21985 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:52:01 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285712FFF3 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ED1347C12; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029042312.0FA8C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Oct 28, 2002 8:23:11 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:52:00 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029045200.ED1347C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay said: > Bethany K. Dumas said: > > It happens occasionally that a person discovers a severe allergy when in > > the presence of the allergen. So, if a guest of yours suddenly could not > > breathe and another person present opined that the person might be > > allergic to your dog - would you not remove your dog at least long enough > > to allow the peson to get his/her coat on and get the fuck out? Or is it > > just too bad if one discovers an allergy in the presence of your esteemed > > dog? > > As someone who is allergic to everything with fur, I find your > question quite odd. If your allergy is severe enough for you to be > unable to breathe removing the pet ain't going to do much. ^ , Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 23:27:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T5Rckq027203 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:27:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A35EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 0:26:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3058319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:25:51 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f203.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.203]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T5I4I24208 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:18:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:17:58 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:17:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:17:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 05:17:58.0718 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B8895E0:01C27F0A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Trader Joe's is coming to Wilmington, DE! The store will be located on >the corner of 202 and Naamans Road in the Market Square Shopping Center >in Wilmington. Our store in Wayne is wonderful. Thanks, Alec, I had no idea they were opening up in DE. I usually get my TJs fix when I drive back from NYC - the Marlton store is conveniently on the way. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 23:30:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T5UHkq027244 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:30:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FF02E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 0:29:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3060334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:29:01 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9T5T0I26092 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:29:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 11847 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 05:28:59 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 05:28:59 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:28:57 -0700 Message-ID: <003601c27f0c$e4058fa0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Mandar" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001601c27ebe$762de340$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBDD70A.1446A3A4@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Consolidated grandmother... Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:02:57 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mandar wrote: > > ....And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first > dangled > in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to > demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our > anatomy..... > > Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just as we were > about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our > consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit intrigueing... Natalie wrote: Welcome, Red, but I find this question difficult without knowing the antecedent of "this" in the first sentence. This refers to the equality of the sexes.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Oct 28 23:30:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T5Uvkq027250 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:30:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FF037@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 0:29:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3060356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:29:43 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T5ThI26147 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:29:43 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9T5Tgj09492 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:29:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c27f0c$6ce6df00$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <041c01c27bd9$afe16860$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021025223035.GI3741@pobox.com> <000001c27c7b$7966d840$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029013612.GF29444@pobox.com> <000401c27eed$adc4cce0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028214547.00a1f740@pop3.norton.antivirus> <002101c27ef6$7f20b620$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029041606.GB18406@pobox.com> <000601c27f03$c7d5c420$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021029044436.GF18406@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: So We are Naive Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:31:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > he has a even cockatoo left to talk to. > > > > - D. M. > > How about some William Blake instead. > > "The Eternal Female groan'd! it was heard over all the Earth" > > 1.5 points for knowing what he is talking about ... Alas, I fail, as I knoweth not that of which he speaketh. Perhaps I have been too absorbed in seeing the world in a grain of sand. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 00:18:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T6IOkq029134 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:18:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FF23A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 1:17:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:17:09 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9T6H9I30458 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:17:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 21098 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 06:17:09 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 06:17:09 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:17:04 -0700 Message-ID: <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Mandar" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:52:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Whatever you say,I'm new in here,no offence Natalie.. ----- Original Message ----- From: clyde w. voigtlander To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:33 AM Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. At 06:32 PM 10/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Mandar wrote: > > > > Ignore the consolidated grandmother post. > >Why? We don't like ignoring. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Hey, Red/Mandar/whatever. Pay no attention. Natalie likes to use the imperial "We," as if she were in some sense in control of this list. In fact, she is speaking only for herself, and sometimes many of us doubt even that. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 00:19:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T6Jbkq029139 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:19:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FF241@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 1:18:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:18:22 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T6ILI30508 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:18:21 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9T6IQL29335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:18:26 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:18:25 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Message-ID: <20021029071825.A29317@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> <3DBD2AB1.6E58257F@maynor.net> <521104492506.20021028065059@gailndan.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from bonniev@PANAX.COM on Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:54:48AM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:54:48AM -0500, bonniev wrote: = > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? = = Yes. = no. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 00:28:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T6SQkq029187 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:28:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FF287@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 1:27:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:27:12 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T6RBI30958 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:27:11 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9T6RGN29356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:27:16 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:27:15 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Message-ID: <20021029072715.B29317@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000001c27ea2$fd9d2050$48305b80@EAGLE72> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <000001c27ea2$fd9d2050$48305b80@EAGLE72>; from plotkina@ISC.UPENN.EDU on Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 11:56:42AM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = >As a gefilte fish eater, I can appreciate fish and horseradish. = > = >Marie = > = = During Passover fish and horseradish is an essential part of our feast. = Brings back fond memories of grinding fresh horseradish. = = = alec = I have such strong childhood memories of Passover gefilte fish (although we frequently had it around the house the rest of the year), that thinking about it makes me wonder whether I'd have a hard time not having some, or would get repulsed right away by the smell. It was a revelation to me at some point that horseradish is not really red. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 00:30:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T6UHkq029222 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:30:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FF293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 1:29:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:29:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sJi550tVRC5cyahFC1Xt/BwIZd1lFR1a@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T6J2I30557 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:19:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FA92FEEB for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C71E7C09; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:19:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <20021029071825.A29317@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Oct 29, 2002 7:18:25 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 22:19:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029061902.3C71E7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph said: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:54:48AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > = > Isn't being a sort of vegetarian like being sort of pregnant? > = > = Yes. > = > > no. Whew! The voice of reason.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 00:32:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T6WGkq029257 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:32:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FF2A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 1:31:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:31:02 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T6V1I31186 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:31:01 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9T6V5h29376 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:31:05 +0100 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:31:05 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Message-ID: <20021029073105.C29317@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rmirth@HOTMAIL.COM on Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:26:57PM +0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Huh? Someone who eats hamburger on a regular basis is = no vegetarian however you stretch the definition. It's = the binariness that makes it comparable to pregnancy. = = -rashmi, non-fungarian = There was I time when I was not to be tempted by anything meaty, and actively had to avoid the meat aisle for being grossed out. But really, I think I might have serious trouble being faced with a lobster in the right setting. Regular, no. But where's the line? Once a year? Once every five years? what? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 00:54:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T6sJkq029604 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:54:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FF34E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 1:53:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:53:05 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9T6r4I32647 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:53:05 -0500 Received: (qmail 25168 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 06:53:04 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 06:53:04 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:53:00 -0700 Message-ID: <021301c27f18$567a6640$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: San Francisco rally Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:26:12 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The fact that it involves innocent children is reason enough to be against it.. Red ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:21 AM Subject: Re: San Francisco rally bonniev wrote: > > > I'm sure some cops would support going into > > Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be > > called up, or their kids, etc. > > This strikes me as the stupidest reason in the world to be against > war. The other side of the coin would be equally absurd: "I'm for war in > Iraq because neither I nor anyone I love is likely to have to go over there > and fight." Either the war is justified or it isn't. The fact that > people will die has nothing to do with that. The fact that people will die is a reason to be against all war. But I agree totally with your point otherwise. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 01:54:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T7svkq030744 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:54:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A3DF4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 2:53:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3065527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:53:42 -0500 Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T7rgI05887 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:53:42 -0500 Received: from user-vcaummi.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.210] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186RC1-0004AN-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:53:41 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DBDFD16.B75077F7@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212513.00a1a940@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDFD16.B75077F7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:52:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > >> Did Janet's answer of "rendered fat" mean anything to you? Think of the >> grease that's left in the pan after you fry bacon. That's lard. And often >> it was exactly that which my parents smeared on bread and ate. > >I've heard the term "rendered fat" but don't really know what it means. It means you take a piece of meat and heat it until the fat melts out of it, then strain the fat and let it resolidify. It's the foundation of a lot of great Jewish cooking -- that's the literal meaning of "schmaltz." Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 02:49:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T8nHkq031063 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:49:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FF75F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 3:48:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 03:48:01 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T8m1I09313 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 03:48:01 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GQ9Z>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:41 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GQ9X; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:36 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021029094633.03096320@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:47:50 +0100 Subject: Re: rosetta project In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028064146.02c441c0@mail.istori.com> References: <1761105332594.20021028070459@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester writes, >www.rosettaproject.org Anyone up on this one? Is Kevin Kelly >a dreamer, a nut, a seer, or something else? See www.kkk.org if >necessary. There is only one Saami language listed, and I can't find Tokelau. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 03:27:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9T9R1kq031195 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 03:27:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FF86C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 4:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3067133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 04:25:45 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9T9PiI11780 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 04:25:44 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GRH1>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:27:24 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GRHC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:27:18 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021029102406.02fada20@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:25:31 +0100 Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBD6948.D1E163D8@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 11:43 28.10.2002 -0500 skrev alyce cresap: >Marie Ascher wrote: >> >> >> Not surely, but often. I make both kinds. > >I neve have experienced non-mayo potato salad. What holds it together? >Oh! You mean perhaps what I call German potato salad? If what you call German potato salad is what I think: slices of boiled potatoes, some onion and a vinager sort of dressing, I like that much better than the white/may-based potato salad. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 04:30:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TAUfkq031502 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 04:30:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FF97F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 5:29:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3067814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:29:25 -0500 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TATII15223 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:29:18 -0500 Received: from localhost (213-78-123-168.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.123.168]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AMH26562; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:27:14 GMT Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:49:03 +0000 Subject: Re: From London Mirror Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <4ABB7639-E9FE-11D6-B181-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 02:23 , Anne Toal wrote: > Thanks for the correction. So Roy, as our man on the scene, can you > explain > the existence of a pro-American editorial in a lefty tabloid? If that's > the > left, what are the right-wingers saying about us, that Britain should > apply > for statehood? No idea, I never read the Sun (or look at the pictures). > > -aht > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 05:36:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TBa4kq031811 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:36:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FFAB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 6:34:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3069364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:34:47 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBYlI19746 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:34:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.71]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029113626.BMNR3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:36:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE724E.7DA13D0A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:34:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <3DBD8918.A8897AB5@valstar.net> <1341130546099.20021028140512@gailndan.com> <3DBDA717.56E4FBE0@valstar.net> <201130892847.20021028141059@gailndan.com> <3DBDA86A.C9AA392A@valstar.net> <3DBDAF42.6F3DA250@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD8C4.4F4A8F2C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Because she has told that site to remember her password. That was supposed to say told her computer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 05:51:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TBpVkq031894 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:51:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FFB4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 6:50:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897201 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:50:15 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBoEI20787 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:50:14 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-236.panax.com [63.163.41.236]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBoDt09023 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:50:13 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029064743.009f88a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:50:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <021301c27f18$567a6640$a8c6c0cb@redbox> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The fact that it involves innocent children is reason enough to be against >it.. --Red What about if more innocent children will die if one doesn't go to war? What about avenging the death of innocent children, such as in the Nazi prison camps, by going to war? How about preventing the death of more innocent children in more Nazi prison camps by stopping the Germans from advancing? How about what the Russians did, gassing 100+ innocents so that the body-strapped shrapnel bombs won't go off and kill all 700? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 05:52:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TBpxkq031900 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:51:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A4342@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 6:50:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:50:42 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBogI20835 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:50:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.202]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029115221.HVUI282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:52:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE7609.18A3B97@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:50:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > It happens occasionally that a person discovers a severe allergy when in > the presence of the allergen. So, if a guest of yours suddenly could not > breathe and another person present opined that the person might be > allergic to your dog - would you not remove your dog at least long enough > to allow the peson to get his/her coat on and get the fuck out? Or is it > just too bad if one discovers an allergy in the presence of your esteemed > dog? Apparently I don't understand how allergies work. I can't see how removing a dog from a house instantly removes the allergens. The furniture and rugs would have to be removed also, wouldn't they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 05:53:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TBrZkq031907 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:53:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A434C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 6:52:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:52:18 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBqII20957 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:52:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.202]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029115357.HWWD282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:53:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE766B.9975A602@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:52:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Maybe an inch or two long, with the width appropriate for the length. > >And with little depth -- as in they didn't stick way out like fat > >alligators might. I don't remember the color. Only one. I should > >probably not have said "they" re not sticking out since I'm thinking she > >probably had just one alligator. For sure she never wore more than one > >at the same time. > > Who in th world are you talking about? (I don't think I have ever owned a > rubber alligator ...) I don't remember her name. She was middle-aged and taught at that 7thD-Ad college in Chattanooga. > >Is Percy Adams still alive and in Knoxville? > > Yes. Ask him if he remembers the alligator woman. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 05:57:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TBv7kq031917 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.003FFB89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 6:55:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:55:51 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBtpI21121 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:55:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.202]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029115729.HZPJ282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:57:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE7740.DCEEB91@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:55:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner > table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner > table. Probably I had better not accept any dinner invitations from you, > Natalie - you will have to collect your free drinks at a public > . ? I'm the one who said that I do NOT feed dogs from dinner tables because I do NOT want them hanging around the table. You're mixing me up with somebody else in that respect. If you don't like visiting the homes of dogs, however, you are indeed right that coming here would not be wise. And if you're allergic to dogs, you for sure should stay away from my car. I would guess that the allergens are far thicker in my car than in my house. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 05:59:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TBxNkq031927 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A436C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 6:58:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:58:00 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBw0I21299 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:58:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.202]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029115939.IBCD282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:59:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE77C1.73A8FD7F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:57:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBDF76E.1FD60D3B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20021028200135.00a4a7d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner > >table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner > >table. Probably I had better not accept any dinner invitations from you, > >Natalie - you will have to collect your free drinks at a public > >. > > Why are you getting all snotty? Do dog allergies produce excess snot? Perhaps just the thought of dogs causes it to start building. I don't think Bethany said that she has a dog allergy, of course, but perhaps she's sniffling empathetically with those who do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 06:08:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TC8Pkq031969 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:08:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A43CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 7:07:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:07:09 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail002.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TC79I05820 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:07:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.202]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029120847.DOSX29244.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:08:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE79E6.6D1D68C3@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:07:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Consolidated grandmother... References: <001601c27ebe$762de340$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBDD70A.1446A3A4@maynor.net> <003601c27f0c$e4058fa0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mandar wrote: > > Mandar wrote: > > > > ....And we guys have known this ever since that pestilential apple first > > dangled > > in front of our consolidated grandmother just as we were about to > > demonstrate the utility of one of the most prominent differences in our > > anatomy..... > > > > Could anyone explain just how the author ended up adding _just as we were > > about_ to the thing mentioned above?The thing about the apple and our > > consolidated grandmother is fine,but the just part is a bit intrigueing... > > Natalie wrote: > Welcome, Red, but I find this question difficult without knowing the > antecedent of "this" in the first sentence. > > This refers to the equality of the sexes.. Hmm. She said, "Sorry, honey, not right now. I've gotta go talk with a snake about some fruit"? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 06:09:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TC9Tkq031976 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:09:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FFC03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 7:08:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:08:12 -0500 Received: from fe1.bc.edu (mrlbva.bc.edu [136.167.2.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TBwBI21325 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:58:11 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] (HELO be1.bc.edu) by fe1.bc.edu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 8897013 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:58:11 -0400 From: (Rita Leonard) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:58:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Autogenerated: Reply To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: I am out of the office. Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Due to a family emergency, I am away from the office for an indeterminate period of time. If you need assistance, please email your request to Leo Chaharyn (leoc@bc.edu) and he will find someone to help you. Rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 06:09:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TC9Ukq031979 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:09:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FFC04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 7:08:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:08:14 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail002.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TC8EI05865 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:08:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.202]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029120952.DPEW29244.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE7A27.9F916BC1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:08:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mandar wrote: > > Whatever you say,I'm new in here,no offence Natalie.. That's why we don't want to ignore you. You're the first new blood we've had in ages. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 06:15:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TCFLkq032032 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:15:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FFC2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 7:14:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2897858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:14:05 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9TCE4I06378 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:14:04 -0500 Received: (qmail 18921 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 12:14:03 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 12:14:03 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:13:58 -0700 Message-ID: <003401c27f45$78197340$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001601c27ebe$762de340$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBDD70A.1446A3A4@maynor.net> <003601c27f0c$e4058fa0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBE79E6.6D1D68C3@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Consolidated grandmother... Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:49:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie wrote: > Welcome, Red, but I find this question difficult without knowing the > antecedent of "this" in the first sentence. > > This refers to the equality of the sexes.. Hmm. She said, "Sorry, honey, not right now. I've gotta go talk with a snake about some fruit"? This is just fine but _just as we were about_ seems a bit out of place,I was trying to thing of it in a way the writer did and make some sense out of it.Thanks,anyway.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 06:38:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TCcXkq032137 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:38:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A44A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 7:37:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:37:16 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9TCbFI08498 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:37:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 25337 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 12:37:14 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 12:37:14 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:37:09 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01c27f48$b3434ba0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029064743.009f88a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: San Francisco rally Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:11:23 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: bonniev To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:20 PM Subject: Re: San Francisco rally What about if more innocent children will die if one doesn't go to war? What about avenging the death of innocent children, such as in the Nazi prison camps, by going to war? How about preventing the death of more innocent children in more Nazi prison camps by stopping the Germans from advancing? How about what the Russians did, gassing 100+ innocents so that the body-strapped shrapnel bombs won't go off and kill all 700? I do agree with you on this one but all efforts should be made to resolve the crisis amicably before going on the offensive. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 06:41:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TCfpkq032149 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:41:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FFD74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 7:40:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:40:34 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9TCeYI08710 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:40:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 2685 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 12:40:33 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 12:40:33 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:40:31 -0700 Message-ID: <001701c27f49$28e48400$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBE7A27.9F916BC1@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:16:06 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: Natalie Maynor To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. That's why we don't want to ignore you. You're the first new blood we've had in ages. Thank-you Natalie,I hope to have a great time here. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 07:04:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TD4bkq032266 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:04:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.003FFE9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 8:03:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2899181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:03:20 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TD3KI10503 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:03:20 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-121.panax.com [63.163.41.121]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TD3Jt22145 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:03:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029080210.009f3ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:03:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <001701c27f49$28e48400$a8c6c0cb@redbox> References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBE7A27.9F916BC1@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >That's why we don't want to ignore you. You're the first new blood > >we've had in ages. > >Thank-you Natalie,I hope to have a great time here. >Red How is that you are able to read 200+ emails a day? Do you not have a life, like the rest of us? How did you find us? Tell us something about yourself. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 07:09:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TD9mkq032286 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:09:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A4618@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 8:08:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2898940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:08:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:h4wScz/i9+4BUX5qkoH25hyJeTowT8P3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TCwVI10012 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:58:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DF82FE31 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 04:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B53557C0F; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 04:58:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Janet Hardy at "Oct 28, 2002 11:52:39 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 04:58:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029125830.B53557C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy said: > >bonniev wrote: > > > >> Did Janet's answer of "rendered fat" mean anything to you? Think of the > >> grease that's left in the pan after you fry bacon. That's lard. And often > >> it was exactly that which my parents smeared on bread and ate. > > > >I've heard the term "rendered fat" but don't really know what it means. > > It means you take a piece of meat and heat it until the fat melts out > of it, then strain the fat and let it resolidify. It's the foundation > of a lot of great Jewish cooking -- that's the literal meaning of > "schmaltz." And we're back to 1991.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 07:22:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TDMrkq032350 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:22:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.003FFFD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 8:21:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2899895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:21:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TDLaI12395 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:21:36 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-170.panax.com [63.163.41.170]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TDLYt25480 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:21:35 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029081919.00b4c530@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:20:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028221142.00a2cc50@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:04 PM 10/28/2002 -0800, ann wrote: >On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, bonniev wrote: > > > I'm being made fun of. I think I may have to take my Scrabble tiles and go > > to bed. > >No, no, I think you have a great future with some Human Resources >Department! I think that she relates too well to people to have a future in a HRD. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 07:39:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TDdekq032424 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A48DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 8:38:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2900953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:22 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TDcLI14908 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:21 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GS3P>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:40:00 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GS3N; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:39:49 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021029143453.0301c300@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:38:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Fwd: .!...?!!! In-Reply-To: <221121014073.20021028112620@idaholibraries.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 11:26 28.10.2002 -0700 skrev Dan Lester: >Capital of the NOBEL - Symbol and the principal Reference marks of our DEMOCRACY of today!!! >Are the Norwegians ashamed of the NOBEL? >Or, perhaps they try to be justified for the faults made by the Commission which grants the Prices of Nobel?!!! Why did you recieve this mail? :-) The author seems to believe that nobel was Norwegian and mixes the peace prize up with the other prizes in a belief that there is only one single body which grants Nobel prices. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 07:49:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TDn5kq032527 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:49:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040022D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 8:47:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2901632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:47:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f190.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.190]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TDllI16660 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:47:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:47:41 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:47:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:47:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 13:47:41.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[C073FAA0:01C27F51] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rashmi Murthy >>I know of no vegetarians who eat >>meat on some days of the week. > >I know several people who eat meat only on some days of >the week. They don't call themselves vegetarians though. They might say they eat mostly a vegetarian diet, though. Not what they are, but what they do. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TE18kq032597 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:01:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 8:59:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:59:51 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TDxpI18242 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:59:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:59:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE9461.455EF902@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:00:01 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: <3DBE766B.9975A602@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Someone wrote: > > Who in th world are you talking about? (I don't think I have ever owned a > > rubber alligator ...) I have a rubber alligator, battery-powered, that crawls along the floor and moves its head (about 15" long). Doesn't everyone? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:02:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TE2dkq032608 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:02:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A4B35@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:01:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:01:22 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TE1LI18509 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:01:21 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GSS2>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:03:01 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GSSH; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:02:57 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021029150010.03059970@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:01:11 +0100 Subject: Re: Our allies In-Reply-To: <3DBDCF02.8C557F0F@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:57 28.10.2002 -0500 skrev alyce cresap: >>Published on Monday, October 28, 2002 by the Times/UK >>US-British Strategy on Iraq Close to Collapse >>by James Bone in New York and Chris Ayres in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico >> >>Diplomats say that Britain and the United States can count on the support >>only of Bulgaria, Colombia, Norway and Singapore for its latest proposal. > >I'm glad that Espen is on our side. But none of these countries is known >for their huge army and air force, alas. And since our police is unarmed Norway could be occupied by US cops, as Anne H. Toal has reminded me some year ago. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:06:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TE6tkq032622 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:06:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004003DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:05:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:37 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TE5bI19032 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: I didn't know this Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From a bookseller in Baltimore: Lest anyone think the dangers to freedom are abstract or exaggerated, consider this: During the reign of terror of the DC-MD-VA sniper, police were in search of a white van believed to have been used in the shootings. On at least one occasion, traffic on the Interstate was brought to a dead halt, and the occupants of all white vans forcibly removed from their vehicles, and put face-down on the tarmac, handcuffed. Did y'all know that the white van drivers were treated in this way? Can it be so? If I'd been there in my white Blazer, would it have happened to me? alyce - From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:12:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEC3kq032652 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:12:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A4C46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:10:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:10:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TE0jI18423 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:00:45 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TE0jVO024602 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:00:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:00:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021028200135.00a4a7d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Betty wrote: >Why are you getting all snotty? Probably because I can visualize trying to dine with Naalie's dog climbing my post-surgery right leg, running off with my crutch, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:16:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEGAkq032695 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:16:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004004A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:14:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:14:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TE4qI18946 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:04:52 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TE4pVO026727 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:04:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:04:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBE7609.18A3B97@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Apparently I don't understand how allergies work. I can't see how >removing a dog from a house instantly removes the allergens. The >furniture and rugs would have to be removed also, wouldn't they? I just wanted to get the person out alive. I.e., I thought your comments were a bit harsh. Perhaps mine were, also. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:16:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEGEkq032699 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:16:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004004AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:14:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2903230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:14:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f23.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.23]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEEuI20256 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:14:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:14:50 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:14:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: So We are Naive Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:14:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 14:14:50.0931 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B823830:01C27F55] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >Just in case Tushar is sincere in wanting to know how he can sound like >less of a smarty-pants, here's a suggestion or two. First of all, never >say "don't take this wrong". That immediately puts people on guard that >you are going to insult them I edited a "With all due respect" from one of my boss's recent communique's for just that reason. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:16:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEGhkq032705 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:16:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004004BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:15:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:15:26 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TE5QI19027 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:26 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TE5PVO027185 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBE766B.9975A602@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I don't remember her name. She was middle-aged and taught at that >7thD-Ad college in Chattanooga. > >> >Is Percy Adams still alive and in Knoxville? >> >> Yes. > >Ask him if he remembers the alligator woman. I see him about once a year. I'll try to remember to ask him. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:19:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEJ2kq032719 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:19:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004004F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:17:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:17:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TE7iI19280 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:07:44 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TE7hVO028413 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:07:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:07:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBE9461.455EF902@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >> > Who in th world are you talking about? (I don't think I have ever owned a >> > rubber alligator ...) > >I have a rubber alligator, battery-powered, that crawls along the floor >and moves its head (about 15" long). Doesn't everyone? Clearly, some of us are deprived. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:20:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEKvkq032727 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:20:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00400539@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:19:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2902962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:19:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TE9bI19599 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:09:37 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TE9aVO029641 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:09:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:09:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >shootings. On at least one occasion, traffic on the Interstate was >brought to a dead halt, and the occupants of all white vans forcibly >removed from their vehicles, and put face-down on the tarmac, >handcuffed. Authoritative cite, please. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:27:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TERKkq032756 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:27:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004005E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:26:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904049 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:26:03 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEQ3I22063 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:26:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust41.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.43]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:25:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBE9A7E.BA609424@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:26:06 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > Authoritative cite, please. As I said, it was written by a bookseller in Baltimore. That does not mean that it is authoritative, but maybe he knows more than I heard reported. That is why I questioned it--to ask if anyone else had heard this. I don't want to believe it, but it could be true, of course. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:28:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TESAkq032763 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:28:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004005FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:26:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:26:49 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEQnI22205 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:26:49 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AAA58A0266; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:26:45 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:26:36 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <258632278.20021029072636@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028085434.009f9c10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028094844.00a02b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDBD73.10FB637B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 3:42 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> bonniev wrote: >> I know of no vegetarians who eat >> meat on some days of the week. NM> I do. Or at least I used to. Haven't seen him in many, many years. A NM> Seventh-Day Adventist I was in grad school with was a vegetarian except NM> for eating a hamburger for lunch every Friday. Sounds like a Reverse Catholic. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:30:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEUckq000330 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:30:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A4E9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:29:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:29:17 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TETGI22725 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:29:16 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AB39E70248; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:29:13 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:29:10 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14858785489.20021029072910@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 4:03 PM, bonniev wrote: >> I'm sure some cops would support going into >> Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be >> called up, or their kids, etc. b> This strikes me as the stupidest reason in the world to be against b> war. The other side of the coin would be equally absurd: "I'm for war in b> Iraq because neither I nor anyone I love is likely to have to go over there b> and fight." Either the war is justified or it isn't. The fact that b> people will die has nothing to do with that. Agree with you. But there are many I hear saying they don't want war because Little Johnny might have to go. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:33:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEXNkq000341 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:33:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400686@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:32:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2904698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:32:05 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEW4I23564 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:32:04 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id ABDEA60250; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:31:58 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:31:55 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3758950476.20021029073155@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 4:58 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> bonniev wrote: >> Me too. I think of them as midwestern along with jello that has veggies in it. NM> I started to say "oh yes -- that's Southern!" but then realized you said NM> veggies. I've never had veggies in jello. I was thinking of fruit. I NM> do like jello jammed with banana, apple, pineapple, etc. Visit Utah. Jello is the official state food. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:38:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEcvkq000371 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00400722@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:37:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:37:40 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEbdI24586 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:37:39 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AD307002A4; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:37:36 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:37:30 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8659286249.20021029073730@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DBDDA95.CF8DAF36@maynor.net> References: <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <1841133336802.20021028145143@gailndan.com> <3DBDDA95.CF8DAF36@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 5:47 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> I'm sure some cops would support going into >> Iraq, but plenty wouldn't. After all, many of them could be >> called up, or their kids, etc. NM> And that's a reason for being for or against it? Sure, it's human NM> nature to bring it all back to . But it nevertheless NM> bothers me mightily that so many people do make moral or political NM> judgments based on their own personal situations. As noted already, I completely agree with you. But what I stated is what many people do. I know a number of people who actually want to have Iraqi butts kicked royally, but don't wnat their kids to go. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:39:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEd6kq000374 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:39:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A4FD1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:37:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:37:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f130.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.130]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEblI24599 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:37:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:37:42 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:37:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:37:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 14:37:42.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[BCE6D810:01C27F58] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Janet Hardy >of it, then strain the fat and let it resolidify. It's the foundation >of a lot of great Jewish cooking -- that's the literal meaning of >"schmaltz." Is it schmaltz that congeals at the top of stock when it's refrigerated? I scraped my stock yesterday before freezing, and I was thinking I should keep the fat for matzoh balls -- does it freeze well? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:40:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEeIkq000381 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:40:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00400748@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:39:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:39:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f99.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEd0I24744 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:39:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:38:54 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:38:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:38:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 14:38:54.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7FCCFF0:01C27F58] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Espen Ore > >Oh! You mean perhaps what I call German potato salad? > >If what you call German potato salad is what I think: slices of boiled >potatoes, some onion and a vinager sort of dressing, I like that much >better than the white/may-based potato salad. Me too, although I was raised on a mayo-based version and still make it on demand (happens that it's my German grandmother's recipe). Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:41:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEfokq000388 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:41:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00400768@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:40:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:40:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f50.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEeWI24945 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:40:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:40:27 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:40:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Consolidated grandmother... Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:40:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 14:40:27.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F45F310:01C27F59] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Red >This is just fine but _just as we were about_ seems a bit out of place,I >was >trying to thing of it in a way the writer did and make some sense out of >it.Thanks,anyway.. They were _just about_ to ! What's so complicated? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:44:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEiPkq000410 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:44:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004007BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:43:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:43:08 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEh7I25312 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:43:07 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AE78FB0248; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:43:04 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:43:01 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2759616704.20021029074301@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Well, Merde In-Reply-To: <3DBDE677.B4636312@maynor.net> References: <3DBDE677.B4636312@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 6:37 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Warm Regards, NM> [snip] NM> Netscape Customer Care NM> ******************** NM> It somehow seemed proper for me to snip out this person's name. I don't NM> know why. Glad his/her regards were warm. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:45:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEj4kq000442 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:45:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004007CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:43:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:43:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f14.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.14]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEhkI25393 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:43:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:43:40 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:43:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 14:43:40.0881 (UTC) FILETIME=[92A3A410:01C27F59] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rashmi Murthy >This reminds me of -Who's kissing Jessica Stein-. Anyone else >see it? Woody Allenish (think Manhattan) flick updated for the 90s. Yes, thought it was sweet. I never did the lesbian thing, but if I did I probably would have been much like Jessica -- not very good at it. BTW, it's not "Who's...", it's just "Kissing Jessica Stein". Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:46:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEkhkq000449 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:46:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A50B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:45:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:25 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEjOI25809 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:24 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEFCBD0204; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:16 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:45:13 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 6:51 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> The fact that people will die is a reason to be against all war. But I NM> agree totally with your point otherwise. The fact that people will die is undoubtedly a reason to be against all living then. And what about the people who die because there is not a war? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:46:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEkukq000452 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:46:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A50C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:45:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f139.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.139]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEjcI25905 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:45:32 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:45:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:45:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 14:45:32.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5744920:01C27F59] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: steph >I have such strong childhood memories of Passover gefilte fish >(although we frequently had it around the house the rest of the >year), We always have it. It's a good low-calorie high-protein snack. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:48:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEmLkq000456 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:48:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A510B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:47:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2905975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:47:03 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEl3I26138 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:47:03 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AF64930280; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:47:00 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:46:57 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12959852373.20021029074657@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 6:59 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >>P.S. But I don't carry the be-considerate-of-guests idea to an >>extreme. Some houseguests might not like dogs in houses at all. That's >>past my polite-hostess line. If they don't like dogs in houses, they >>can go home. BKD> Even if they have a severe allergy? If they have a severe allergy they don't want to stay there, even if the dog is outside. There will already be enough allergens around that they'll not be happy and/or well. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:49:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEnNkq000463 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:49:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A5126@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:48:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906059 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:48:05 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEm5I26369 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:48:05 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFA0F30252; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:48:00 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:47:54 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6159909535.20021029074754@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:00 PM, Betty wrote: >>Oh my gosh - so do I - I had not thought of that in years. It's best, of >>course, toasted with cinammon added. Cinammon toast, I believe? B> I much preferred that. My father would break up break in a bowl, add milk B> and sugar, and eat. When I was a kid and there was not "real food" in the house and no money to buy any, we'd break up white bread into pieces, put it in a glass, and add milk and sugar. That would be lunch or supper. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:50:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEoIkq000471 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:50:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040086D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:49:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:00 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEn0I26618 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:00 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFD6F80252; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:48:54 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:48:51 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18659967028.20021029074851@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBDEC74.6D79C40D@maynor.net> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3DBDCFE9.BBA9718D@valstar.net> <3DBDEC74.6D79C40D@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:03 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I've never said "veggies." Is it southern? NM> I don't think so. I don't say "veggies" and don't hear it often. I NM> used it above because I tend to use the words that were used in the NM> postings I'm responding to. I have of course heard "veggies," but it's NM> not something I would say myself. It sounds a bit less alien to me, NM> however, than "mayo." As I think I said earlier, I'm not sure that I've NM> ever heard anybody say "mayo" in . I have heard living NM> beings say "veggies." I don't think veggies is a regional word, or at least not very localized. I've heard it said in Chicago area, in California, in Idaho, in Colorado, etc. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:53:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEr4kq000485 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:53:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004008E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:51:47 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEpkI27330 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:51:46 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A07F94029C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:51:43 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:51:40 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5260135610.20021029075140@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:12 PM, Janet Hardy wrote: JH> It's rendered fat. I don't think it's really any less healthful than JH> butter; there's just something about the word "lard" that seems to JH> gross people out. Or the difference in where it comes from. Somehow it seems "good" and "clean" that butter comes from milk, which we normally eat or drink, and which is good for babies. Somehow it seems "bad" to be eating chunks of fat. Or so it seems to me. All that being said, I never use butter, and never use lard. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:54:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEs1kq000492 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:54:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A51D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:52:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:52:43 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEqhI27604 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:52:43 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A0B7F00210; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:52:39 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:52:36 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8760192011.20021029075236@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona In-Reply-To: <3DBDEF46.DA8E8892@maynor.net> References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD049.C85F8329@maynor.net> <3DBDD978.5887380C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDEF46.DA8E8892@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 7:15 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> (Which would be more interesting, NM> shooting nursing professors or shooting professors of nursing?) Nursing professors of nursing would be most interesting. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 08:56:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TEu1kq000502 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:56:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400934@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:54:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906808 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:43 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEshI27958 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:43 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9TEsh49482684 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC7CA6C3 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:41 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <001801c27f5b$1d415e90$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rashmi Murthy >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:18 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports > > >>Trader Joe's is coming to Wilmington, DE! The store will be located on >>the corner of 202 and Naamans Road in the Market Square >Shopping Center >>in Wilmington. Our store in Wayne is wonderful. > >Thanks, Alec, I had no idea they were opening up in DE. >I usually get my TJs fix when I drive back from NYC - the >Marlton store is conveniently on the way. > >-rashmi > > No problem. Just trying to prove, I can be helpful and nice sometimes on words-l. alec ------- Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:00:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TF0vkq000558 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:00:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004009B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 9:59:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:59:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEndI26746 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:39 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TEncVO024295 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:49:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <6159909535.20021029074754@gailndan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: > When I was a kid and there was not "real food" in the house and no > money to buy any, we'd break up white bread into pieces, put it in > a glass, and add milk and sugar. That would be lunch or supper. We did that with cornbread - but no sugar, jut milk. I had many suppers of cornbrad and milk. Hmmm. I may make some cornbread soon. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:04:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TF49kq000583 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:04:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400A0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:02:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2907254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:02:51 -0500 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TF2pI29098 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:02:51 -0500 Received: from user-vcaummi.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.210] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186XtI-0000hr-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:02:48 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:01:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: So We are Naive Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>From: bonniev >>Just in case Tushar is sincere in wanting to know how he can sound like >>less of a smarty-pants, here's a suggestion or two. First of all, never >>say "don't take this wrong". That immediately puts people on guard that >>you are going to insult them > >I edited a "With all due respect" from one of my boss's recent communique's >for just that reason. I like it on West Wing when they use "due respect" (with the "with all" omitted) almost as punctuation, sort of a verbal amnesty request. It makes me chuckle. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:05:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TF5Fkq000589 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00400A24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:03:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2907296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:03:57 -0500 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TF3vI29212 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:03:57 -0500 Received: from user-vcaummi.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.210] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186XuN-0002Cm-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:03:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:02:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>From: Janet Hardy >>of it, then strain the fat and let it resolidify. It's the foundation >>of a lot of great Jewish cooking -- that's the literal meaning of >>"schmaltz." > >Is it schmaltz that congeals at the top of stock when it's refrigerated? I >scraped my stock yesterday before freezing, and I was thinking I should keep >the fat for matzoh balls -- does it freeze well? I don't know for sure, but I'd think so. If not, wouldn't the loose fat on chicken get gross when you freeze it? Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:06:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TF6Akq000594 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:06:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400A3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:04:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2906831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:04:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TEspI27978 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TEsoVO028424 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: mayo & veggies Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU To me, mayo is merely a shortened form to type - like lx or ling for . I don't SAY or . SInce I almost never discuss it or ask for it (except on this ), I can't imagine saying . And in my experience, is almost always a self-conscious acknowlegement that o meal or diet is either deficient in them or heavily weighted toeard them. IOW it is not a synonym for . It recognizes - and sometimes disdains - their place on the food pyramid,etc. YMMV. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:07:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TF6xkq000599 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:06:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400A52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:05:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2907397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:05:41 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TF5fI29491 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:05:41 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3BE7E0278; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:05:34 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:05:31 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8560966615.20021029080531@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/28/2002, 8:46 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner BKD> table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner BKD> table. What if dinner is over and they just want to play a few hands of poker? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:09:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TF9ckq000619 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:09:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A53FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:08:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2907575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:08:18 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TF8HI29898 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:08:17 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9TF8H49471387 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9A9A629 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:08:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:08:16 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <001901c27f5d$024c34f0$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <20021029072715.B29317@yoccoz.multinix.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of steph >Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:27 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports > > >= >As a gefilte fish eater, I can appreciate fish and horseradish. >= > >= >Marie >= > >= >= During Passover fish and horseradish is an essential part of >our feast. >= Brings back fond memories of grinding fresh horseradish. >= >= >= alec >= > >I have such strong childhood memories of Passover gefilte fish >(although we frequently had it around the house the rest of the >year), that thinking about it makes me wonder whether I'd have a >hard time not having some, or would get repulsed right away by >the smell. > >It was a revelation to me at some point that horseradish is not >really red. > I ended up being more a fan of the horseradish then the fish. I loved the burn in my nose. Good for sinuses. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:15:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TFFmkq000675 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:15:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400B43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:14:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:14:30 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFEUI31501 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:14:30 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A5D3DF0222; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:14:27 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:14:21 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17961496477.20021029081421@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <000c01c27f48$b3434ba0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029064743.009f88a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <000c01c27f48$b3434ba0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hey there Red....don't forward messages and add stuff at bottom. Can't tell where the original ends and the stuff you wrote begins. Even posting at top like this is better, even though it pisses some off. 10/29/2002, 5:41 AM, Red wrote: R> I do agree with you on this one but all efforts should be made to resolve R> the crisis amicably before going on the offensive. R> Red -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:16:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TFGUkq000684 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:16:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00400B63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:15:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:15:12 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFFAI31709 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:15:10 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A5F9E30222; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:15:05 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:15:02 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10161537526.20021029081502@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <001701c27f49$28e48400$a8c6c0cb@redbox> References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBE7A27.9F916BC1@maynor.net> <001701c27f49$28e48400$a8c6c0cb@redbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 5:46 AM, Red wrote: R> ----- Original Message ----- R> From: Natalie Maynor R> To: R> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:38 PM R> Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. R> That's why we don't want to ignore you. You're the first new blood R> we've had in ages. R> Thank-you Natalie,I hope to have a great time here. R> Red Same here. What you did makes it look like Natalie wrote all that, including signing her name Red. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:18:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TFIFkq000693 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:18:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A54D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:16:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:16:57 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFGtI31898 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:16:57 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A664AC029C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:16:52 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:16:48 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <961644269.20021029081648@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Fwd: .!...?!!! In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021029143453.0301c300@victoria.nb.no> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021029143453.0301c300@victoria.nb.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 6:38 AM, Espen Ore wrote: EO> 11:26 28.10.2002 -0700 skrev Dan Lester: >>Capital of the NOBEL - Symbol and the principal Reference marks of our DEMOCRACY of today!!! >>Are the Norwegians ashamed of the NOBEL? >>Or, perhaps they try to be justified for the faults made by the Commission which grants the Prices of Nobel?!!! EO> Why did you recieve this mail? :-) EO> The author seems to believe that nobel was Norwegian and mixes the peace prize up with the other prizes in a belief that there is only one single body which grants Nobel prices. Guess I was the lucky resident of someone's spam list. That's hardly surprising, as I get a couple hundred spams a day, about half of which get filtered. dan -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:19:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TFJBkq000696 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:19:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400B94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:17:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:17:52 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFHqI32082 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:17:52 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A69D13B0200; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:17:49 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:17:45 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17761701011.20021029081745@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: <3DBE9461.455EF902@valstar.net> References: <3DBE766B.9975A602@maynor.net> <3DBE9461.455EF902@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 7:00 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Someone wrote: >> > Who in th world are you talking about? (I don't think I have ever owned a >> > rubber alligator ...) ac> I have a rubber alligator, battery-powered, that crawls along the floor ac> and moves its head (about 15" long). Doesn't everyone? How do you fasten it to the top of your wool dress? Doesn't it make you sort of top heavy? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:21:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TFL2kq000703 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:21:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00400BAC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:19:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:19:40 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFJeI32286 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:19:40 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A70880386; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:19:36 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:19:33 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <861808876.20021029081933@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> References: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 7:05 AM, alyce cresap wrote: >>From a bookseller in Baltimore: ac> Lest anyone think the dangers to freedom are abstract or exaggerated, ac> consider this: During the reign of terror of the DC-MD-VA sniper, police ac> were in search of a white van believed to have been used in the ac> shootings. On at least one occasion, traffic on the Interstate was ac> brought to a dead halt, and the occupants of all white vans forcibly ac> removed from their vehicles, and put face-down on the tarmac, ac> handcuffed. BFD ac> Did y'all know that the white van drivers were treated in this way? Can ac> it be so? If I'd been there in my white Blazer, would it have happened ac> to me? I imagine cops can tell blazers from vans. And that they'd probably cut you a little slack. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 09:27:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TFR9kq000745 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:27:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00400C5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:25:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2908270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:25:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFFlI31784 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:15:47 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TFFkVO011799 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:15:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:15:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <8560966615.20021029080531@gailndan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: >BKD> Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner >BKD> table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner >BKD> table. > > What if dinner is over and they just want to play a few hands of > poker? My only point is that if I am invited to a picnic, then I know that there may be dogs running around - and horses, chickens, goats, cats, etc., perhaps. But if I am invited to dinner and the presence of animals is not specified, I generally assume that I will be in a dining room of some sort at a table and that there will not be animals running around in that room. For one thing, I dress differently for occasions when animals are running around. I suppose one might describe dinner with dogs in the room as an indoor picnic? I dunno. But I would not invite guests to dinner without warning them if I planned to have animals in the room. If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? I have a lot of friends with animals in the home. They occasionally invite guests over, sometimes for dinner. The animals are not ever present in the dining room, meeting room, whatever. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:05:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TG5dkq000943 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:05:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004011B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:04:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2912071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:04:21 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFsLI07077 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:54:21 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TFsKc06439 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:54:20 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9TFsKRG021321 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 07:54:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029081016.00a55410@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:10:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: I am out of the office. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:58 AM 10/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Due to a family emergency, I am away from the office for an indeterminate >period of time. If you need assistance, please email your request to >Leo Chaharyn (leoc@bc.edu) and he will find someone to help you. Rita Oh, dear. This does not sound good. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:10:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGALkq000963 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:10:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A5BB8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:09:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:09:03 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TG93I11273 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:09:03 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A29B12D0252; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:08:59 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:08:56 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10764771676.20021029090856@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 8:15 AM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: >>BKD> Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner >>BKD> table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner >>BKD> table. >> >> What if dinner is over and they just want to play a few hands of >> poker? "they" was intended to refer to the dogs, not the humans. However, I do agree with all of your points below. dan BKD> My only point is that if I am invited to a picnic, then I know that there BKD> may be dogs running around - and horses, chickens, goats, cats, etc., BKD> perhaps. But if I am invited to dinner and the presence of animals is not BKD> specified, I generally assume that I will be in a dining room of some sort BKD> at a table and that there will not be animals running around in that BKD> room. For one thing, I dress differently for occasions when animals are BKD> running around. BKD> I suppose one might describe dinner with dogs in the room as an indoor BKD> picnic? I dunno. But I would not invite guests to dinner without warning BKD> them if I planned to have animals in the room. BKD> If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' BKD> pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? BKD> I have a lot of friends with animals in the home. They occasionally BKD> invite guests over, sometimes for dinner. The animals are not ever BKD> present in the dining room, meeting room, whatever. BKD> Bethany -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:12:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGCokq000976 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:12:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040126E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:11:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2913675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:11:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGBII11616 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:11:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4R3J501.D04 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:09:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBEB3AB.64C78826@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:13:31 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> <3DBDF9C5.1FC65200@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBE0046.35EB3247@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > > > > Around these parts it comes in chunks resembling smallish white bricks. > > Like tofu? Yea, kinda. Ever since NAFTA there's been more and more Mexican and "mexican" foodstuffs in the local groceries, although there was always some. (Corn husks, marrow guts, etc.) The place I usually shop is ethnic as hell and plays Norten~o music on the PA. I kind of like living somewhere where they roast fresh chiles out in front of the store, although some of the meat on display is digusting... Y'know, until last night I didn't know that there was such a thing as a masa spreader. 8-) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:13:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGD3kq000980 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:13:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040127F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2912953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:11:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:SMGsGS7B2Ztb/DBQ/BEaw6ALLCJF91Pm@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TG1jI09398 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:01:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31162FEF3 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C53657C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:01:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 10:15:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:01:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > But if I am invited to dinner and the presence of animals is not > specified, I generally assume that I will be in a dining room of some sort > at a table and that there will not be animals running around in that > room. For one thing, I dress differently for occasions when animals are > running around. How could you know Natalie well enough to be invited for dinner but not know she had a dog? > But I would not invite guests to dinner without warning > them if I planned to have animals in the room. Not everyone is like you, I know to my chagrin. > If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' > pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? I've been to bookstores like that. > I have a lot of friends with animals in the home. They occasionally > invite guests over, sometimes for dinner. The animals are not ever > present in the dining room, meeting room, whatever. They are rare. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:18:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGI7kq001022 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:18:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040132A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:48 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGGmI12842 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:48 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A46910101DA; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:41 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:16:38 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15965233590.20021029091638@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBEB3AB.64C78826@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> <3DBDF9C5.1FC65200@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBE0046.35EB3247@maynor.net> <3DBEB3AB.64C78826@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 9:13 AM, John Williams wrote: JW> Y'know, until last night I didn't know that there was such a thing as a masa JW> spreader. 8-) And just HOW long have you lived in AZ? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:27:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGROkq001072 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:27:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040142B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:26:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:26:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGG5I12763 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:05 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TGG4VO020406 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <10764771676.20021029090856@gailndan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: >"they" was intended to refer to the dogs, not the humans. I started to ask, reread your statement, finally went with humans. > >However, I do agree with all of your points below. I'm sure we'll ... Thanks, Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:30:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGUokq001104 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:30:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A5D7C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:29:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2914255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:29:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGJVI13206 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:19:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TGJUVO022524 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:19:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:19:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >How could you know Natalie well enough to be invited for dinner but >not know she had a dog? It's not her having a dog that is the issue - it's whether it will be in the guest area, dining-room, etc. I know few people who own houses who do not also have at least one animal on the premises. Consider Teenie, the owner of PF. On the premises are about 40 horses, 4-5 dogs, 4-5 cats, a donkey, Not one of the animals has ever been in the guest area or dining-room during a dinner party. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:46:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGkSkq001193 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:46:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004016B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:45:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:45:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YK+AdM4/iEkK1VDhek1rDCHpC5vg0Mfg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGZ9I16478 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:35:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2382FE4E for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 40B117C0D; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:35:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 11:19:30 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:35:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029163508.40B117C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >How could you know Natalie well enough to be invited for dinner but > >not know she had a dog? > > It's not her having a dog that is the issue - it's whether it will be in > the guest area, dining-room, etc. How could you know Natalie well enough to be invited for dinner and not know that the dog was an integral part of her life and probably would be around? > Not one of the animals has ever been in the > guest area or dining-room during a dinner party. I think it depends on the size of the party. As someone who is allergic to anything with fur, I think it's incumbent on me to investigate the animal situation. The friends I went to visit yesterday, I'd never sleep over at. They have three dogs, and even though they had just cleaned the house, there were clumps of hair all over. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:49:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGnbkq001202 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:49:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00401714@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:k9BZ0bq5kO9DMXy9lUp5acEL9HYfarTo@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGcII16990 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:38:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA53E2FEC8 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7B49F7C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Rose advice? To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029163817.7B49F7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So I bought these roses... Some of them are blooming. Do I wait to plant them till they stop blooming, or will they continue to bloom when I plant them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:49:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGnkkq001206 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:49:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6102@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2916600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:28 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGcRI17026 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:38:28 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGcQc06516 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:26 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9TGcRRG008264 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:38:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029085404.00a48280@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:54:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:01 AM 10/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas said: > > But if I am invited to dinner and the presence of animals is not > > specified, I generally assume that I will be in a dining room of some sort > > at a table and that there will not be animals running around in that > > room. For one thing, I dress differently for occasions when animals are > > running around. > >How could you know Natalie well enough to be invited for dinner but >not know she had a dog? > > > But I would not invite guests to dinner without warning > > them if I planned to have animals in the room. > >Not everyone is like you, I know to my chagrin. > > > If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' > > pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? > >I've been to bookstores like that. My doctor has her golden retriever in the hallway at her office. She is beautiful. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:56:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGtukq001233 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:56:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A61E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:37 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGsav20411 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:37 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AD42141020A; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:26 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:54:23 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2367498768.20021029095423@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Rose advice? In-Reply-To: <20021029163817.7B49F7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021029163817.7B49F7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 9:38 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> So I bought these roses... Some of them are blooming. Do I wait to KK> plant them till they stop blooming, or will they continue to bloom KK> when I plant them? Plant them. Several of mine were blooming when purchased. Actually, as long as you deadhead them they'll probably keep on blooming. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:58:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGwrkq001243 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:58:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00401856@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:57:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2917354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:57:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGlYv18591 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:47:34 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TGlUVO009493 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:47:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:47:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029163508.40B117C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> Not one of the animals has ever been in the >> guest area or dining-room during a dinner party. > >I think it depends on the size of the party. I'm not sure what you mean- Teenie's parties normally include 30-40 guests, at least. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 10:59:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TGxTkq001249 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:59:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6246@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2917404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:58:06 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TGm6v18679 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:06 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TGm5VO009796 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:48:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029163508.40B117C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >How could you know Natalie well enough to be invited for dinner and >not know that the dog was an integral part of her life and probably >would be around? That's not the issue. Maria is an integral part of my life, but she is not present at my dinner parties. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:02:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TH2ckq001279 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:02:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A62A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:01:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2918770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:01:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TH1Hv21791 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:01:17 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-78.panax.com [65.114.190.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TH1Gt04520 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:01:16 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029120038.00a00790@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:01:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On at least one occasion, traffic on the Interstate was >brought to a dead halt, and the occupants of all white vans forcibly >removed from their vehicles, and put face-down on the tarmac, >handcuffed. --alyce I didn't know this either. And I'm finding it hard to believe. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:13:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THD3kq001326 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:13:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00401A3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:44 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THBiv24060 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:44 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-78.panax.com [65.114.190.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THBht06584 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029120743.009f1780@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:08:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <8560966615.20021029080531@gailndan.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >BKD> Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner >BKD> table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner >BKD> table. > > What if dinner is over and they just want to play a few hands of > poker? Good one, Dan. How about a picture of that, painted on velvet? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:13:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THD4kq001329 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:13:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00401A3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:46 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THBjv24065 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:45 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-78.panax.com [65.114.190.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THBit06598 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:44 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029121003.009fac60@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' > > pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? > >I've been to bookstores like that. >Karen I've been in Bed and Breakfasts like that. I was in the evening dining room of a B & B in Nairn, Scotland where the white cat, Zuberflute, laid at our feet under the table and accepted scraps. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:15:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THFIkq001363 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:15:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00401A82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:13:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:14:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THDxv24725 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:13:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-78.panax.com [65.114.190.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THDwt06964 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:13:59 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029121331.009f2aa0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:13:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Rose advice? In-Reply-To: <20021029163817.7B49F7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So I bought these roses... Some of them are blooming. Do I wait to >plant them till they stop blooming, or will they continue to bloom >when I plant them? --Karen They will continue to bloom after you plant them. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:16:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THG3kq001368 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A645D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:14:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:14:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:xVQsZ5wzFgtH7HSYBBWdE38hWE2FA/gJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TH4iv22447 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:04:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28E92FEA7 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5AD5D7C11; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:04:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 11:47:30 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:04:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029170443.5AD5D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> Not one of the animals has ever been in the > >> guest area or dining-room during a dinner party. > > > >I think it depends on the size of the party. > > I'm not sure what you mean- Teenie's parties normally include 30-40 > guests, at least. Exactly--one is less likely to see pets at a party that size. One is more likely to see them at an intimate gathering. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:16:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THGkkq001375 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:16:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6470@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:15:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2919284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:15:27 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:56cF6P232nCA2S84HBxT/AVNT6yQuEQT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TH5Qv22880 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:05:26 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4F62FEF8 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DD6A17C10; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 11:48: 5 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:05:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029170525.DD6A17C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > >How could you know Natalie well enough to be invited for dinner and > >not know that the dog was an integral part of her life and probably > >would be around? > > That's not the issue. Maria is an integral part of my life, but she is > not present at my dinner parties. Maria is not a dog. Have most of your friends met Maria? Does she ride in your car with you? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:29:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THTLkq001425 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:29:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A65D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:28:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2920333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:28:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THI2v25334 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:18:02 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9THI1VO029099 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:18:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:18:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029170443.5AD5D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> I'm not sure what you mean- Teenie's parties normally include 30-40 >> guests, at least. > >Exactly--one is less likely to see pets at a party that size. One is >more likely to see them at an intimate gathering. > I would think the opposite would be true. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:29:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THTQkq001429 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:29:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A65DB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:28:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2921326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:28:08 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THS7427318 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:28:07 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4R73200.G0G for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:25:50 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBEC46F.9445AB86@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:25:04 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this References: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Did y'all know that the white van drivers were treated in this way? The VRWC must have missed it during the non-stop coverage. > Can > it be so? I just saw people being asked for IDs and to open the back, but anything's possible. However, since it was raining during that whole period I assume that more than one damp pissed-off taxpayer would have said something. > If I'd been there in my white Blazer, would it have happened > to me? Very likely. I noticed that the description of "white van" was being interpreted +extremely+ liberally. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:41:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THfXkq001497 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:41:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6731@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:40:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2921464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:40:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JVDPr7KUfN6qjW+PZhTGsrR8+RGercbE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THUE427634 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:30:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71D12FEF6 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 162817C0A; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:30:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 12:18: 1 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:30:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029173012.162817C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> I'm not sure what you mean- Teenie's parties normally include 30-40 > >> guests, at least. > > > >Exactly--one is less likely to see pets at a party that size. One is > >more likely to see them at an intimate gathering. > > > > I would think the opposite would be true. Not IME, and being as how I am allergic to furry bodies, believe me, I notice. An example is the people I visited yesterday--when there were 30 people at their house, the dogs were in the back yard. Yesterday, when there were 5, the dogs were free to snack on the guests. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:42:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THgEkq001501 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:42:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A674B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:40:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2921565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:40:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NdFgwwzXhAI/fK/IkDphdioM9140AbkY@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THUs427829 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:30:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691472FD78 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 181F57C0F; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:30:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <3DBEC46F.9445AB86@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Oct 29, 2002 10:25: 4 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:30:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > I assume that more than one damp pissed-off taxpayer would have said > something. You forget the PATRIOT act. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:45:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THj7kq001538 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:45:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00401D91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:43:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2922715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:43:48 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THhl430300 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:43:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4R7TA01.80B for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:41:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBEC81F.5C11E9B6@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:40:47 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDED6C.C93182CA@maynor.net> <3DBDF8B7.AD63580A@maynor.net> <3DBDF9C5.1FC65200@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBE0046.35EB3247@maynor.net> <3DBEB3AB.64C78826@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <15965233590.20021029091638@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > JW> Y'know, until last night I didn't know that there was such a thing as a masa > JW> spreader. 8-) > > And just HOW long have you lived in AZ? Thirty-nine years last August 22nd, but, hand to God, I never saw a [dedicated] masa spreader or even know that they existed. Every nana I knew used a spoon. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:45:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THjfkq001543 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:45:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A67A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:44:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2922750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:44:22 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f82.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THiL430373 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:44:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:44:12 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:44:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:44:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 17:44:12.0544 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAD04000:01C27F72] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: >Whew! The voice of reason.:) Karen, how do you define vegetarian? When someone says "I'm a vegetarian" how do you interpret that? (Stay out, Dan) -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:46:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THkdkq001547 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:46:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00401DB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:45:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2922844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:45:20 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THjJ430589 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:45:19 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4R7VV01.P0C for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:43:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBEC87C.B7E8125F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:42:20 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212513.00a1a940@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDFD16.B75077F7@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > It means you take a piece of meat and heat it until the fat melts out > of it, then strain the fat and let it resolidify. It's the foundation > of a lot of great Jewish cooking -- that's the literal meaning of > "schmaltz." I thought schmaltz was specifically chicken fat. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:50:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THo6kq001561 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:50:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6811@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:48:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:48:46 -0500 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THmj431196 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:48:45 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4R00JF28515O@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:48:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:51:06 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: > >>BKD> Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner >>BKD> table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner >>BKD> table. >> >> What if dinner is over and they just want to play a few hands of >> poker? > >My only point is that if I am invited to a picnic, then I know that there >may be dogs running around - and horses, chickens, goats, cats, etc., >perhaps. But if I am invited to dinner and the presence of animals is not >specified, I generally assume that I will be in a dining room of some sort >at a table and that there will not be animals running around in that >room. For one thing, I dress differently for occasions when animals are >running around. Not everybody has a dining room with a door. In fact, I can't remember the last time I lived in a place with a discrete dining room. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:50:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THohkq001567 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:50:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A682D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:49:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:49:23 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9THnN431350 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:49:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 8084 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 17:49:22 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 17:49:22 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:49:15 -0700 Message-ID: <010c01c27f74$4d1a5360$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBE7A27.9F916BC1@maynor.net> <001701c27f49$28e48400$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <10161537526.20021029081502@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:24:44 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester worte: Same here. What you did makes it look like Natalie wrote all that, including signing her name Red. I won't happen again,thank-you.. Red -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:52:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THqckq001575 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:52:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00401E4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:51:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923487 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:51:19 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9THpI432006 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:51:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 16121 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 17:51:18 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 17:51:18 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:51:11 -0700 Message-ID: <011101c27f74$9185e3c0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBE7A27.9F916BC1@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029080210.009f3ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:26:45 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: How is that you are able to read 200+ emails a day? Do you not have a life, like the rest of us? How did you find us? Tell us something about yourself. I have a little less complicated life than yours,winter break in India,student at a local university..20 yrs old... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:53:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THrAkq001580 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:53:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00401E59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:51:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:51:51 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f195.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THpo432046 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:51:50 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:51:44 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:51:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:51:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 17:51:44.0879 (UTC) FILETIME=[D86D17F0:01C27F73] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph: >Regular, no. But where's the line? Once a year? Once every >five years? what? Hmmm, this is tough. I'd call them vegetarian. But breaking it up on a day-to-day basis is weird. I was vegetarian three days this week sounds odd. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:55:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THtAkq001591 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:55:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A68BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:53:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:53:51 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THrk432651 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:53:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4R89Y00.R0D for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:51:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBECA77.C54B3CEA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:50:48 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3758950476.20021029073155@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > NM> I started to say "oh yes -- that's Southern!" but then realized you said > NM> veggies. I've never had veggies in jello. I was thinking of fruit. I > NM> do like jello jammed with banana, apple, pineapple, etc. That's funny. How's come the rest of the world can't get pineapple suspended in Jello? > Visit Utah. Jello is the official state food. And where even a Hasidic Jew can be a gentile. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 11:59:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9THxqkq001611 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:59:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00401F0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:58:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2924203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:58:33 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f198.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.198]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THwX401081 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:58:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:58:27 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2002 17:58:27.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[C881D140:01C27F74] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: > >This reminds me of -Who's kissing Jessica Stein-. Anyone else > >see it? Woody Allenish (think Manhattan) flick updated for the 90s. >Yes, thought it was sweet. I never did the lesbian thing, but if I did I >probably would have been much like Jessica -- not very good at it. I'd have flunked out after date #2. Couldn't have persevered as long as she did. >BTW, it's not "Who's...", it's just "Kissing Jessica Stein". Thanks, I realized that after hitting Send. Paul, have you seen it? The movie went to great lengths to avoid labels. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TI18kq001640 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:01:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A696B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2924295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:49 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THxm401271 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:48 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4R8K001.U0A for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:57:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBECBE1.6066AF12@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:56:49 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this References: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > John Williams said: > > I assume that more than one damp pissed-off taxpayer would have said > > something. > > You forget the PATRIOT act. So is that going to be the default defense for every cock-and-bull story now? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:01:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TI1skq001646 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:01:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00401F44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:00:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:00:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ne7P1XuqSONXX6KRoxMc+dSUtWpmOAO2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THoZ431822 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:50:35 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A282FDE2 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:50:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6F0BA7C1C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:50:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Oct 29, 2002 5:44:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:50:34 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029175034.6F0BA7C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > Karen: > > >Whew! The voice of reason.:) > > Karen, how do you define vegetarian? When someone says > "I'm a vegetarian" how do you interpret that? > > (Stay out, Dan) What do you mean 'interpret'? It's not my job to interpret it. I try to take what people say about themselves at face value. What this means is that if I invite them to my house for dinner, I'll make something that only has vegetables. If I decide to add cheese or eggs, I'll either make them optional or ask first. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:03:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TI3ikq001657 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:03:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A69A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:02:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:02:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:X8iv8z4oBc1DSgUYSEmdt4tD1qlzLQVA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THqK432166 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:52:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F228B2FDE2 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8D2E97C1C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:52:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029121003.009fac60@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 29, 2002 12:11:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:52:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029175219.8D2E97C1C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > > If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' > > > pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? > > > >I've been to bookstores like that. > >Karen > > I've been in Bed and Breakfasts like that. I was in the evening dining > room of a B & B in Nairn, Scotland where the white cat, Zuberflute, laid at > our feet under the table and accepted scraps. Right. After what you've said about B&Bs, I would investigate very thoroughly before I stay at another B&B. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:03:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TI3vkq001660 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:03:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00401F78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:02:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:02:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THqU432212 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:52:30 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9THqTVO020855 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:52:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:52:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Janet Hardy wrote: >Not everybody has a dining room with a door. In fact, I can't >remember the last time I lived in a place with a discrete dining room. But everyone has a room/area in which dining occurs - that's the dining room/area/etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:04:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TI4fkq001664 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:04:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A69BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:03:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:03:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rq2/K11hVdYQkLpgXuPmFcuZ6MUntb9c@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THrK432419 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:53:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00C42FDE2 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B5D677C0D; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:53:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <010c01c27f74$4d1a5360$a8c6c0cb@redbox> from Red at "Oct 29, 2002 11:24:44 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:53:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Red said: > Dan Lester worte: > Same here. What you did makes it look like Natalie wrote all that, > including signing her name Red. > > I won't happen again,thank-you.. > > Red Well, you did. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:05:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TI5Ikq001669 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:05:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00401F96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:03:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2923763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:03:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:cVva3+M3VY0lJTXjhsDFukD+gHXw9Ymg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9THrs432701 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:53:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 428BF2FDE2 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 06CFE7C0C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <011101c27f74$9185e3c0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> from Red at "Oct 29, 2002 11:26:45 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029175353.06CFE7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Red said: > bonniev wrote: > How is that you are able to read 200+ emails a day? Do you not have a > life, like the rest of us? How did you find us? Tell us something about > yourself. > > I have a little less complicated life than yours,winter break in > India,student at a local university..20 yrs old... Virupaksha! How I've missed you! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:08:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TI8lkq001684 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:08:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6A71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:07:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:07:26 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TI7Q402682 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:07:26 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:07:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBECEF5.4EBE0094@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029170443.5AD5D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Exactly--one is less likely to see pets at a party that size. One is > more likely to see them at an intimate gathering. I never had a party, nor has my sister, nor did my parents, when dogs and/or cats were not present. It would not occur to any of us to hide the pets. I entertained on a small scale, but my parents and sister had/have huge parties of 10-50. Never heard a guest complain, either. Nor collapse with athsma. Maybe we don't know any allergenic friends? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:10:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIAZkq001691 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:10:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6A9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:16 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TI9F403018 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:16 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBECF55.C2FF313B@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:11:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this References: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> <3DBEC46F.9445AB86@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Very likely. I noticed that the description of "white van" was being > interpreted +extremely+ liberally. Yes, I did see that, too. My friend may be misinformed. I dunno. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:11:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIB0kq001696 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:11:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00402053@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:41 -0500 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TI9f403074 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:09:41 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4R00JDY94450@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:09:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:12:10 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: <3DBEC87C.B7E8125F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028212513.00a1a940@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDFD16.B75077F7@maynor.net> <3DBEC87C.B7E8125F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Janet Hardy wrote: > >> It means you take a piece of meat and heat it until the fat melts out >> of it, then strain the fat and let it resolidify. It's the foundation >> of a lot of great Jewish cooking -- that's the literal meaning of >> "schmaltz." > > I thought schmaltz was specifically chicken fat. Yes, it is. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:12:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIC6kq001702 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:12:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040207A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:10:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:10:47 -0500 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIAl403254 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:10:47 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4R00JJA95W5M@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:10:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:13:11 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Janet Hardy wrote: > >>Not everybody has a dining room with a door. In fact, I can't >>remember the last time I lived in a place with a discrete dining room. > >But everyone has a room/area in which dining occurs - that's the dining >room/area/etc. Yes. How far away do the pets need to be to satisfy your sense of "no pets in the dining room"? Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:13:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIDDkq001715 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:13:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004020A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:11:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:11:54 -0500 Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIBs403386 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:11:54 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([63.200.60.74]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4R00J2E97T53@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:11:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:14:23 -0800 From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-reply-to: <3DBECEF5.4EBE0094@valstar.net> X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net To: English Language Discussion Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20021029170443.5AD5D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBECEF5.4EBE0094@valstar.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen Kay wrote: >> >> Exactly--one is less likely to see pets at a party that size. One is >> more likely to see them at an intimate gathering. > >I never had a party, nor has my sister, nor did my parents, when dogs >and/or cats were not present. It would not occur to any of us to hide >the pets. I entertained on a small scale, but my parents and sister >had/have huge parties of 10-50. Never heard a guest complain, either. >Nor collapse with athsma. Maybe we don't know any allergenic friends? I warn people before they come over that the house contains a dog and a cat, so they can take their allergy medications beforehand as needed. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:15:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIF2kq001744 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:15:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004020D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:13:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:13:40 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9TIDe403640 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:13:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 1911 invoked by uid 417); 29 Oct 2002 18:13:17 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 18:13:17 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:13:05 -0700 Message-ID: <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:48:35 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU KK>Well, you did. How would that be Karen? Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:17:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIH5kq001751 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:17:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6B23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2925559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:45 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIFj403914 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:45 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBED0E8.6FF5251@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:18:16 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029170443.5AD5D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBECEF5.4EBE0094@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Janet Hardy wrote: > I warn people before they come over that the house contains a dog and > a cat, so they can take their allergy medications beforehand as > needed. Never would have thought of it. I guess I am insensitive. I think that in the case of sister and parents, everyone knew them well enough to know that pets were present, and probably didn't come if they had a problem with it. alyce > > Janet -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:37:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIbckq001862 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:37:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6DE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:aEbMIaWRIRL3qsF5fEnHkv7NVhEUzBEl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIQI405493 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:26:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4702FDC8 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B10567C0D; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:26:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBECEF5.4EBE0094@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 29, 2002 1: 9:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:26:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029182611.B10567C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > had/have huge parties of 10-50. Never heard a guest complain, either. > Nor collapse with athsma. Maybe we don't know any allergenic friends? More likely, they drugged themselves appropriately before they came over. I've never collapsed at anyone's house; I tend to suffer afterwards. Though I did see a friend become incapacitated from sneezing when she tried on clothes formerly owned by a cat owner. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:38:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIcAkq001871 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:38:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6E01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:2njDQfK7D1rqhoYgMnrS0WK5hzxnsoxi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIQo405737 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:26:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96CC2FDFE for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 63B8B7C11; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:26:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> from Red at "Oct 29, 2002 11:48:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:26:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029182649.63B8B7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Red said: > KK>Well, you did. > > How would that be Karen? Fine, thank you! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:38:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIcHkq001874 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:38:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040238E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2927591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:58 -0500 Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9TIav408395 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 1446 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2002 18:36:57 -0000 Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2002 18:36:57 -0000 Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 2054134F11; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7942D643 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:36:57 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Hey, Red/Mandar/whatever. Pay no attention. Natalie likes to use the > imperial "We," as if she were in some sense in control of this list. In > fact, she is speaking only for herself, and sometimes many of us doubt even > that. I thought it was more of an observation: when told to ignore something, how many of us do as we're told? -- Take care, Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net) "ignore consolidated grandmother" sounds like a cryptic clue From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:40:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIe4kq001886 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:40:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A6E2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:38:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2926598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:38:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+XQ1Ju/CYDF82k7s00YalIVGeu3Ka+v1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TISe406137 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:28:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53ACB2FDC0 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 28DFA7C0C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBED0E8.6FF5251@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 29, 2002 1:18:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029182837.28DFA7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Never would have thought of it. I guess I am insensitive. I think that > in the case of sister and parents, everyone knew them well enough to > know that pets were present, and probably didn't come if they had a > problem with it. I think the same is true of other pet owners that I know and would think of visiting. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:41:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIfpkq001894 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:41:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004023F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:40:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2927877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:40:32 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIeU408998 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:40:30 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A61A1320280; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:40:26 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:40:22 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16373857952.20021029114022@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029120743.009f1780@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029120743.009f1780@pop3.norton.antivirus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 10:08 AM, bonniev wrote: >>BKD> Well, I don't either. But then I do not serve Maria dinner at the dinner >>BKD> table ... And I do not expect dogowners to have dogs at the dinner >>BKD> table. >> >> What if dinner is over and they just want to play a few hands of >> poker? b> Good one, Dan. How about a picture of that, painted on velvet? Thanks. My aunt had one hanging over her table in the "family room/sunporch", where kids ate when the grownups were eating in the dining room. (She wasn't discriminating so much as she was managing the size of group...we couldn't have all fit around the dining room table...and we didn't mind, as we didn't have to be so good out there) It was a print, and was framed, not on velvet. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:43:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIhHkq001904 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:43:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040242C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:41:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2927997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:41:58 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIfv409220 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:41:57 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A66DC402A8; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:41:49 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:41:46 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15773941402.20021029114146@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 10:30 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> John Williams said: >> I assume that more than one damp pissed-off taxpayer would have said >> something. KK> You forget the PATRIOT act. PATRIOT ACT The whole thing is an acronym. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:44:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIiCkq001908 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:44:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00402445@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:42:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2928061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:42:53 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIgp409371 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:42:51 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A6A64103B0; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:42:46 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:42:42 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7573997602.20021029114242@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 10:44 AM, Rashmi Murthy wrote: RM> Karen: >>Whew! The voice of reason.:) RM> Karen, how do you define vegetarian? When someone says RM> "I'm a vegetarian" how do you interpret that? RM> (Stay out, Dan) Not to worry. I don't know nothin', don't say nothin', 'bout no vegetarians. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:45:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIjDkq001936 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:45:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040246C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:43:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2928152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:43:54 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIhr409530 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:43:53 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A6E6133025C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:43:50 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:43:46 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17874061624.20021029114346@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBECA77.C54B3CEA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3758950476.20021029073155@gailndan.com> <3DBECA77.C54B3CEA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 10:50 AM, John Williams wrote: >> Visit Utah. Jello is the official state food. JW> And where even a Hasidic Jew can be a gentile. You betchum, Red Ryder. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:49:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TImxkq001957 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004024F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:47:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2928562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:47:40 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIld410460 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:47:39 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A7C729039C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:47:35 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:47:28 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 11:18 AM, Red wrote: KK>>Well, you did. R> How would that be Karen? R> Red That looks good, Red. Why are you red? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:54:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIsZkq001977 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:54:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004025BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:53:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2929248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:53:15 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIrF411896 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:53:15 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:53:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBED9AF.94E61FB2@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:55:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <20021029012023.34D617C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I thought accepted thought was that the draft was 2 years behind? I don't understand the question. Two years behind what? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 12:59:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TIx7kq001996 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00402631@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:57:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2929822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:57:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIvl413220 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:57:47 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:57:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBEDAC1.F347FA22@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:00:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021028161231.00a4fb80@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021028175916.00a3d3a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > I much preferred that. My father would break up break in a bowl, add milk > and sugar, and eat. What's good is broken up graham crackers with milk and sugar. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 13:05:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TJ5nkq002039 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:05:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00402700@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:04:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2929420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:04:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:f4YXpPsCD2Sp0r7rtueP+I16GGN7k0ql@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TIsU412218 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:54:30 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA0D52FE17 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A74877C0A; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:54:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBED9AF.94E61FB2@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 29, 2002 1:55:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:54:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029185429.A74877C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I thought accepted thought was that the draft was 2 years behind? > > I don't understand the question. Two years behind what? The calling up of the reserves. What I heard was that there were enough reserves to last two years, and that after that, we'd have to depend on the draft. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 13:14:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TJEBkq002120 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:14:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004027EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:12:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2931164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:12:52 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TJCq416281 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:12:52 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBEDE47.511508AB@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:15:19 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: call up the reserves References: <20021029185429.A74877C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > What I heard was that there were enough reserves to last two years, > and that after that, we'd have to depend on the draft. Ah. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 13:45:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TJjRkq002318 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:45:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00402BF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:44:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2932945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:44:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TJY6419993 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:34:06 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TJY6VO030581 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:34:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:34:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBECEF5.4EBE0094@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >I never had a party, nor has my sister, nor did my parents, when dogs >and/or cats were not present. It would not occur to any of us to hide >the pets. I entertained on a small scale, but my parents and sister I, at least, have not suggested anything. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:00:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TK0kkq002519 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:00:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00402DAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:59:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:59:22 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TJxM425439 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:59:22 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBEE930.4E769E21@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:01:52 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I, at least, have not suggested anything. Well, if pets are not to be there, what would you expect? That they be taken to Furbabies for the evening? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:03:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TK3Gkq002532 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:03:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00402DE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:01:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2934844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:01:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TJpu424082 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:51:56 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TJpuVO011725 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:51:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:51:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029170525.DD6A17C10@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >Maria is not a dog. Right! (And she knows that.) >Have most of your friends met Maria? Yes. >Does she ride in your car with you? Wrong question! - I ride her! (She does not ride in the little van that I own because it is not big enough for her. We borrow or rent a vehicle that is that is big enough occasionally. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:06:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TK66kq002543 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:06:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00402E51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:04:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:04:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:iMe6qSPw7HAMHa207uN62W2t2SKA9fvX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TJsk424717 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:54:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04DC2FE2E for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BD7137C12; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 2:34: 5 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:45 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029195445.BD7137C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > >I never had a party, nor has my sister, nor did my parents, when dogs > >and/or cats were not present. It would not occur to any of us to hide > >the pets. I entertained on a small scale, but my parents and sister > > I, at least, have not suggested anything. What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not ? Do they go to another dimension? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:14:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKEbkq002585 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:14:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00402F28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:13:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:13:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:L6qpcGidofSv77yGe3EKPgZ1wRDr+Hd9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TK3G426011 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:03:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0129C2FE36 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B90A27C0C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:03:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 2:51:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:03:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029200315.B90A27C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > >Does she ride in your car with you? > > Wrong question! The fact that you think I'm asking the wrong question is A Big Clue to me that you don't understand what the issue is we're discussing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:16:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKGrkq002614 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:16:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00402F56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:15:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:15:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TK5Y426379 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:05:34 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TK5XVO021211 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:05:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBEE930.4E769E21@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >Well, if pets are not to be there, what would you expect? That they be >taken to Furbabies for the evening? LOL! Let's not get carried away. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:18:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKIQkq002623 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:18:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00402F7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:17:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2935929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:17:06 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TK76426550 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:07:06 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TK75VO022587 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:07:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:06:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029195445.BD7137C12@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not >? Do they go to another dimension? O come on - I don't have to - I have observed - they are in another part of the house/yard/garage/whatever. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:33:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKXokq002722 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:33:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040314B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:32:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2936768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:32:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:T4NIe/NuWmiaJxleo4NG0bJiJ6zMOMTw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKMT428554 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:22:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18AA22FE34 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:22:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D151B7C10; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:22:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 3: 6:49 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:22:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029202228.D151B7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > >What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not > >? Do they go to another dimension? > > O come on - I don't have to - I have observed - they are in > another part of the house/yard/garage/whatever. And how is that not hidden? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:44:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKilkq002784 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:44:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00403293@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:27 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKhR401178 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:27 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBEF385.7E4D762F@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:45:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > LOL! Let's not get carried away. I think we all are waiting for your answer to what you think becomes of pets when their people entertain. You say that you don't expect them to be hidden, nor taken to a kennel, and yet they are to be invisible. How does this occur? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:50:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKotkq002836 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:50:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00403323@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:49:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:49:34 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKnY402271 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:49:34 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA07763 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:49:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C7E8438699; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:49:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:49:30 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Fwd: Reverse Sokol hoax Message-ID: <20021029204930.GB12713@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Forwarded message from ----- Is there anybody who believes this is the first time that such a "hoax" has occured? --------------- Sometime ago Alan Sokol et al wrote a completely meaningless article on quantum gravity which was accepted by a leading, refereed "deconstructionist journal". Physicists laughed because the hoax was at the deconstructionists' expense. But now there is is an inverse Sokol hoax in which, apparently, two reporters interviewd a lot of string theorists, wrote meaningless but "right sounding" papers and even got a Ph.D. Details below. What is particularly sad is that a key paper appeared in CQG: <From Max Niedemayer to Ted Newman #1. I always thought Sokal's hoax would also work in theoretical high energy physics. Now there is experimental proof. Two brothers, Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff, journalists and science fiction writers, both in their late 40's, decided it is high time to earn a PhD, and that this should be just as easy in `stringy' high energy physics as it alledgedly is in sociology. First they interviewed a number of prominent French string theorists in order to accquire the lingo, then (apparently without help from a trained physicist) spoofed two theses. To prepare the ground for their defense they spread rumors of them being geniuses and their theses being a milestone in theoretical physics. Although the official PhD awarding institution is only the (so far not too renowned) Universite de Bourgogne the members of the thesis committee certainly make up for it: R. Jackiw (MIT), J. Morava (John Hopkins), S. Majid (Cambridge), C. Kounnas (ENS), I. Antoniadis (CERN and Ecole Polytechnique), and others. For the actual defense they rented a hall in the prestigeous Ecole Polytechnique, arranged a big dinner with the president, invited the TV, ... and passed gloriously. The thesis can be found on the offical CNRS server (http://www.ccsd.cnrs.fr/). Already the abstract is a delightfully meaningless combination of buzzwords, that almost beats Sokal's, but which apparently has been taken seriously by the committee! The bad side of the joke is that it might hurt theoretical physics in general. The CNRS apparently even contemplates to split the present theoretical physics division into a pure mathematics and an experimental physics branch. Theoretical physics, being now more fiction than science, is meant to be entertained by professionals in that area. Hopefully the Bogdanoff ``singularity invariant'' for the ``topological expansion phase'' of the universe will provide a way out ... I'll keep you informed. Best regards, -- Max #2. Dear Ted, sure you can show the letter to others. Let me stress however (and maybe you should too) that this is not first hand information. A person who has first hand information is J. Magnen, from the Ecole Polytechnique. He works on constructive QFT and was not personally involved. The issue was apparently discussed in the French National Research Council, where Peter Forgacs is a member, and he is my source. A small correction. In the last minute it seems the theses were not accepted at the Ecole Polytechnique, but only later by the University of Bourgogne. The TV was also not permitted to the actual defense, but several people here saw reports on the Bogdanoff brothers decribing them as outstanding geniuses. The theses and the committee members can be looked up on the web at http://www.ccsd.cnrs.fr/ All the best, -- Max ******************************************************************** HOAX THESIS: Abstract in english: We propose in this research a new solution regarding the existence and the content of the initial spacetime singularity. In the context of topological field theory we consider that the initial singularity of space-time corresponds to a zero size singular gravitational instanton characterized by a Riemannian metric configuration (++++) in dimension D 4. Connected with some unexpected topological data corresponding to the zero scale of space-time, the initial singularity is thus not considered in terms of divergences of physical fields but can be resolved in the frame of topological field theory. We get this result from the physical observation that the pre-spacetime is in a thermal equilibrium at the Planck scale. Therefore it should be subject to the KMS condition. We consequently consider that this KMS state might correspond to a unification between "physical state" (Planck scale) and "topological state" (zero scale). Then it is suggested that the "zero scale singularity" can be understood in terms of topological invariants, in particular the first Donaldson invariant. Therefore, we here introduce a new topological index, connected with 0 scale, of the form Z =3D Tr (-1)s, which we call "singularity = invariant". Interestingly, this invariant corresponds also to the invariant topological current yield by the hyperfinite II* von Neumann algebra describing the zero scale of space-time. In such a context we conjecture that the problem of inertial interaction might be explained in terms of topological amplitude connected with the singular zero size gravitational instanton corresponding to the initial singularity of spacetime. Keywords : KMS State, topological field theory, singularity invariant, initial singularity, zero size instanton PACS : 0420D, 04.65.+e, 02.40.Xx, 04.60.-m, 05.45.-a Keywords: Mots-cl=E9s : =C9tat KMS, th=E9orie topologique = des champs, invariant de singularit=E9, singularit=E9 initiale, instanton gravitationnel singulier, amplitude topologique PACS : 0420D, 04.65.+e, 02.40.Xx, 04.60.-m, 05.45.-a Advisor: STERNHEIMER, DANIEL Comments: Pr=E9sident : Gabriel Simonoff (Prof.Em=E9rite Univ.Bordeaux I) Premier rapporteur : Roman Jackiw (M.I.T.) Second rapporteur Jack Morava : (John Hopkins Univ.), Examinateur Hans Jauslin (Bourgogne Univ.), Co-directeur de th=E8se (pour la partie physique th=E9orique), Jac Verbaarschot (Stony Brook Univ.) Le document de = th=E8se est compos=E9 des textes suivants : 1. Le texte de pr=E9sentation de la th=E8se (60 pages) 2. Les 4 tir=E9s =E0 part des publications annex=E9es = (102 pages): - Topological Field Theory of the Initial Singularity of Spacetime, Class. and Quantum Gravity vol 18 n=B0 21 (2001) - Spacetime Metric and the KMS Condition at the Planck Scale Annals of Physics, vol 295 n=B0 2 (2002) - KMS State of the Spacetime at the Planck Scale, Ch. Jour. of Phys. vol 40, N=B02, (2002) = - Topological Origin of Inertia, Czech . Jour. of Phys. Vol. 51, N=B0 11 (2001) Subjects: Thesis: Physics: Theoretical Physics ID code: tel-00001503 Deposited by: BOGDANOFF Igor on 24 July 2002 (01:49) ----- End forwarded message ----- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:51:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKp3kq002839 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:51:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040332A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:49:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:49:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKdg400462 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:39:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TKdfVO015802 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:39:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:39:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029202228.D151B7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> O come on - I don't have to - I have observed - they are in >> another part of the house/yard/garage/whatever. > >And how is that not hidden? Hey Karen - check your dict! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:57:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKvkkq002870 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:57:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004033D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKuP403106 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:25 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-20.panax.com [65.114.190.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKuNt24134 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:23 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029154849.00b5aac0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:50:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <20021029185429.A74877C0A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DBED9AF.94E61FB2@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:54 AM 10/29/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >What I heard was that there were enough reserves to last two years, >and that after that, we'd have to depend on the draft. Is that based on the nature of the reserve program, or casualty estimates? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:57:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKvlkq002873 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:57:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004033D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:27 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKuR403120 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-20.panax.com [65.114.190.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKuPt24143 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029155109.00b0fa38@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029195445.BD7137C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:54 AM 10/29/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas said: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > > > >I never had a party, nor has my sister, nor did my parents, when dogs > > >and/or cats were not present. It would not occur to any of us to hide > > >the pets. I entertained on a small scale, but my parents and sister > > > > I, at least, have not suggested anything. > >What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not >? Do they go to another dimension? Of our three cats, one disappears when company arrives---and stays that way for the duration unless our visitors are familiar to him. The eldest simply ignores company and will find a quiet place for an undisturbed nap. The youngest will stick around and will tolerate a little attention, but will not make overtures. We don't "hide" them---they for the most part simply choose to be elsewhere. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:58:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKwlkq002878 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:58:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004033E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:57:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2939803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:57:26 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:m75PW0UNHQrCdq2KjAdX0QV3MLhdCQls@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKlP401993 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:47:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0352FE5E for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:47:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 121E97C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:47:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBEF385.7E4D762F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 29, 2002 3:45:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:47:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029204725.121E97C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > > LOL! Let's not get carried away. > > I think we all are waiting for your answer to what you think becomes of > pets when their people entertain. You say that you don't expect them to > be hidden, nor taken to a kennel, and yet they are to be invisible. How > does this occur? I want to know how putting them in a garage is not hiding them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:59:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TKxLkq002886 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:59:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004033F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:57:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:57:57 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKvu403316 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:57:56 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:57:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:00:19 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >But lard! Never! > - D. M. Well, you know, my grandmother made a traditional Danish New Year's Day soup. Crystal clear chicken broth with Danish (like Swedish) meatballs and lard dumplings, a celery stick and a carrot stick. Each of those things had a meaning, which I don't remember. But, I have to say that those dumplings were light and wonderful. She showed me how to make them once, but I don't remember. I do know that she rolled them into a longish roundish shape and then put them on top of a pot lid over a boiling pan of water for a time. I think that was the whole thing. Really good. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:05:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TL5ukq002938 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:05:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004034CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:04:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:04:31 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TL4V404773 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:04:31 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.149]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:04:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBEF874.6FABAF37@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:00 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: lard dumplings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oops. Left out the flour. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:07:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TL7Vkq002952 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:07:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004034F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:06:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:06:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:9OXczUepUSLEdIz0zjArQbu6ZfKNxl0K@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKu9403086 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:10 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF4A2FDCE for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B433B7C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:56:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 3:39:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:56:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029205608.B433B7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> O come on - I don't have to - I have observed - they are in > >> another part of the house/yard/garage/whatever. > > > >And how is that not hidden? > > Hey Karen - check your dict! Okay. The M-W Collegiate says 'being out of sight or not readily apparent'. Again, I ask you, Bethany, how is being in "another part of the house/yard/garage/whatever" not being hidden? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:08:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TL8Skq002958 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:08:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00403514@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2941603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:08 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TL77405239 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-114.panax.com [65.114.190.114]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TL75t26352 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:06 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029160605.00a098b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:06:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <011101c27f74$9185e3c0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> References: <000201c27ec0$059d2300$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195849.00b9ffc8@mail.panax.com> <005601c27f13$855d8500$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3DBE7A27.9F916BC1@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029080210.009f3ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > >How is that you are able to read 200+ emails a day? Do you not have a > >life, like the rest of us? How did you find us? Tell us something about > >yourself. > >I have a little less complicated life than yours,winter break in >India,student at a local university..20 yrs old... --Red Me? I have the least complicated life here. To what city is your university "local" ? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:10:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TLAskq002970 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:10:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A8275@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:09:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2940738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:09:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:VlCsifJpEEEh7/qh5/YBpJEsMThS9SUG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TKxX403562 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:59:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34FB2FDF3 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7B707C0A; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029154849.00b5aac0@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Oct 29, 2002 3:50:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:59:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029205932.A7B707C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 10:54 AM 10/29/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > >What I heard was that there were enough reserves to last two years, > >and that after that, we'd have to depend on the draft. > > Is that based on the nature of the reserve program, or casualty estimates? One hopes both, but I fear the former. This was more in the nature of a factoid; I don't have a source for it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:13:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TLDWkq002990 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:13:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004035A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:12:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2942052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:12:11 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLCB405993 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:12:11 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-114.panax.com [65.114.190.114]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLC6t27389 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:12:06 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029161116.009fdb70@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:12:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <3DBEDE47.511508AB@valstar.net> References: <20021029185429.A74877C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen Kay wrote: > > What I heard was that there were enough reserves to last two years, > and that after that, we'd have to depend on the draft. I don't understand this. How does a reserve wear out? Do they have a two year expiration date? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:26:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TLQskq003070 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:26:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00403716@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:25:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2942354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:25:34 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLFY406503 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:15:34 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLFWc27215 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:32 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9TLFXRG021994 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029133115.00a54680@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:31:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: <20021029195445.BD7137C12@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:06 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not > >? Do they go to another dimension? > >O come on - I don't have to - I have observed - they are in >another part of the house/yard/garage/whatever. I guess they could dinner. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:38:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TLcakq003137 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:38:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A8613@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:37:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2943669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:37:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLRF409264 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:27:15 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TLRFVO021437 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:27:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:27:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBEF385.7E4D762F@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >I think we all are waiting for your answer to what you think becomes of >pets when their people entertain. You say that you don't expect them to >be hidden, nor taken to a kennel, and yet they are to be invisible. How >does this occur? I have also not said that they have to be invisible - or even unheard, in case you are wondering. I just want to know ahead of time if they are going to be swarming around me, sniffing my crotch, stealing my crutch, etc. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:42:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TLghkq003155 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:42:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004038F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:41:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2944042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:41:23 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLVM410049 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:31:22 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TLVLVO024479 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:31:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:31:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029204725.121E97C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >I want to know how putting them in a garage is not hiding them. Context really is all, isn't it? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 15:56:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TLu3kq003238 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00403A94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:54:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2945210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:54:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLig412495 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:44:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9TLifVO002719 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:44:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:44:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: the menu, please Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing around. What would we serve? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:08:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TM8Lkq003321 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:08:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00403BD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:06:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:06:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:2FQzHB+2CPakgkD7WNJlWf0hgV+bKQP4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLuu414834 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:56:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F3B2FE69 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D8A017C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:56:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029133115.00a54680@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Oct 29, 2002 1:31:46 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:56:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029215652.D8A017C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At 03:06 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > >What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not > > >? Do they go to another dimension? > > > >O come on - I don't have to - I have observed - they are in > >another part of the house/yard/garage/whatever. > > I guess they could dinner. With the huskies yesterday, I feared it would be the other way around for a moment... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:08:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TM8wkq003325 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:08:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00403BE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:07:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:07:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ITYS4hc22eD9BoCapTfy7OfU7mJJ6azG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLvW414907 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:57:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756FB2FE69 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4A29F7C15; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:57:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 4:31:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:57:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029215732.4A29F7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > >I want to know how putting them in a garage is not hiding them. > > Context really is all, isn't it? No, but I do think you are , if not downright insane. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TM9Akq003328 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00403BEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:07:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:07:49 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TM7n416121 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:07:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.19]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4R00I7CK500S@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:09:08 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBF0704.9020208@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021029204725.121E97C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > alyce cresap said: > >>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> >>>LOL! Let's not get carried away. >>> >>I think we all are waiting for your answer to what you think becomes of >>pets when their people entertain. You say that you don't expect them to >>be hidden, nor taken to a kennel, and yet they are to be invisible. How >>does this occur? >> > > I want to know how putting them in a garage is not hiding them. If the dogs are going to bother somebody, Vinnie goes to his crate, and Kira goes to her room (her couch in our bedroom). This is done with a verbal command. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:10:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMAMkq003336 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:10:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00403C03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:09:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2946408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:09:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tDPRa/nnBUaMcoZxJVywI+KgABP1Ax/q@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TLx0415058 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:59:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C122FE5E for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1732F7C09; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:59:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 4:44:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:58:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029215900.1732F7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > around. What would we serve? Used sanitary napkins and the excrement of different animals? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:24:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMOqkq003403 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:24:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00403D63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:23:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2947372 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:23:31 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMDV417120 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:13:31 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMDTc23026 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:13:29 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9TMDURG013000; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:13:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029142912.00a6e1a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:29:43 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:44 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing >around. What would we serve? Let's start with a wad of lettuce with some mayo splattered on top. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:28:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMSjkq003419 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:28:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A8B5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:27:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2948447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:27:24 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMRO420194 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:27:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.83]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029222704.BFYF22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:27:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF0B45.E89B438@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:27:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I am out of the office. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Leonard wrote: > > Due to a family emergency, I am away from the office for an indeterminate period of It's upsetting that Rita is having a family emergency, but this message is good in that it lets us know she's still lurking. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:32:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMWikq003460 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:32:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A8EAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:31:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2950764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:29:54 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMTs421403 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:29:54 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMTrb18979 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:29:53 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g9TMS7v00981 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:28:08 -0500 Message-ID: <00b501c27f9a$74df5640$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021029215732.4A29F7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:28:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" > Bethany K. Dumas said: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >I want to know how putting them in a garage is not hiding them. > > > > Context really is all, isn't it? > > No, but I do think you are , if not downright insane. > > Karen And gee, all along I thought you'd reserved those words for me... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:32:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMWmkq003463 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:32:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A8EBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:31:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2950836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:31:05 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMV5421599 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:31:05 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AC21670356; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:30:57 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:30:53 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14687688899.20021029153053@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029195445.BD7137C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021029195445.BD7137C12@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 12:54 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Bethany K. Dumas said: >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >> >> >I never had a party, nor has my sister, nor did my parents, when dogs >> >and/or cats were not present. It would not occur to any of us to hide >> >the pets. I entertained on a small scale, but my parents and sister >> >> I, at least, have not suggested anything. KK> What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not KK> ? Do they go to another dimension? In my experience they may be hiding (cats), they may be put in a room with a closed door, in the garage, outside, or whatever is appropriate for the particular critter(s). -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:32:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMWokq003466 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:32:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00403F2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:31:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2950851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:31:12 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMVC421614 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:31:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.83]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029223053.BJAA22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:30:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF0C2A.35B78F93@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:31:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Betty wrote: > > >Why are you getting all snotty? > > Probably because I can visualize trying to dine with Naalie's dog > climbing my post-surgery right leg, running off with my crutch, etc. I have said that Spencer doesn't come to the table. He might, however, run off with your crutch. Calling him "Natalie's dog" sounds awfully formal. You can feel free to call him by his first name. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:36:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMa8kq003480 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:36:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00403F90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:34:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:34:47 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMYl422237 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:34:47 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id ACFF17201EA; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:34:39 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:34:35 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4587910698.20021029153435@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <20021029205932.A7B707C0A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021029205932.A7B707C0A@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 1:59 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> One hopes both, but I fear the former. This was more in the nature of KK> a factoid; I don't have a source for it. I've always figured that it is significant that the suffix is identical for factoid and hemerhoid. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:37:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMbIkq003493 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:37:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00403FBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMZv422402 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:35:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.83]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029223538.BNUH22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:35:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF0D47.D429D03E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:35:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Apparently I don't understand how allergies work. I can't see how > >removing a dog from a house instantly removes the allergens. The > >furniture and rugs would have to be removed also, wouldn't they? > > I just wanted to get the person out alive. I.e., I thought your comments > were a bit harsh. Perhaps mine were, also. I can't see that removing the dog in a situation like that would help the person get out alive, unless maybe the dog had been taped over the person's nose. What harsh comments did I make? I call it being realistic to say that somebody with a serious dog allergy had best stay away from the inside of my house or my car. In fact, I would call it considerate rather than harsh. If the invitee says, "I am allergic to dogs," then I would be able to provide warning. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:38:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMcxkq003498 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:38:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00403FED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:37:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:37:38 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMbc422652 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:37:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.83]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029223718.BOXP22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF0DAB.9F31C52B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:37:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Aaaaaiiiieeeee! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Ask him if he remembers the alligator woman. > > I see him about once a year. I'll try to remember to ask him. He might not remember the alligator(s), but he might remember her if you said she was a middle-aged commuter from Chattanooga, where she taught at the 7th-Day Adventist college. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:40:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMeUkq003506 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:40:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404026@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:39:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951628 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:39:09 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMd8423287 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:39:09 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AE084A0368; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:39:04 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:39:00 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17988175609.20021029153900@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: call up the reserves In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029161116.009fdb70@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <20021029185429.A74877C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029161116.009fdb70@pop3.norton.antivirus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 2:12 PM, bonniev wrote: >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >> What I heard was that there were enough reserves to last two years, >> and that after that, we'd have to depend on the draft. b> I don't understand this. How does a reserve wear out? Do they have a two b> year expiration date? Yes. Length of a tour of duty. Normally called up for a year, at discretion of President. Could be extended for the duration. National Guard under state control, but federalized when called up by President. Reserves under Federal control. Either group, when called up, are part of the Active Army, same as any other soldiers. Same is also true for other services besides Army. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:41:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMfSkq003512 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:41:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404034@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:40:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:40:07 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMe7423461 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:40:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.83]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029223948.BQKM22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:39:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF0E41.76A4AA2@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:40:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this References: <3DBE95B9.EAF2@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Did y'all know that the white van drivers were treated in this way? No. I think it was probably true of the men in the white van who had used the phone booth associated with the sniper. But I don't think it was done to all white occupants. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:45:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMjdkq003550 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:45:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A8FE6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:44:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2951968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:44:14 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMiE424025 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:44:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.83]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029224355.BUGC22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:43:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:44:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > NM> The fact that people will die is a reason to be against all war. But I > NM> agree totally with your point otherwise. > > The fact that people will die is undoubtedly a reason to be against > all living then. And what about the people who die because there is > not a war? They die. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:49:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMnZkq003568 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:49:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004040D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952304 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:14 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMmD424710 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:14 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A0261890210; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:06 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:47:59 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 3:44 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> NM> The fact that people will die is a reason to be against all war. But I >> NM> agree totally with your point otherwise. >> >> The fact that people will die is undoubtedly a reason to be against >> all living then. And what about the people who die because there is >> not a war? NM> They die. Exactly. The same as those who die because there is a war. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:50:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMonkq003576 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:50:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A9065@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:49:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:49:28 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMnR424937 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:49:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.83]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029224908.BYFQ22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:49:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF1071.EFA7150B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:49:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD049.C85F8329@maynor.net> <3DBDD978.5887380C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDEF46.DA8E8892@maynor.net> <8760192011.20021029075236@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > NM> (Which would be more interesting, > NM> shooting nursing professors or shooting professors of nursing?) > > Nursing professors of nursing would be most interesting. Hmm. What is the subject? Nursing, with professors as object of the gerund? Or professors, with nursing as a participle? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:54:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TMs8kq003594 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:54:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:52:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:52:47 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMql425329 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:52:47 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A13A3902C6; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:52:42 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:52:38 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <588993876.20021029155238@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Yahoo! News Story - 2 Professors Shot at U. of Arizona In-Reply-To: <3DBF1071.EFA7150B@maynor.net> References: <200210281730.g9SHUOI26787@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DBD7BBB.4B479E9E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDD049.C85F8329@maynor.net> <3DBDD978.5887380C@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBDEF46.DA8E8892@maynor.net> <8760192011.20021029075236@gailndan.com> <3DBF1071.EFA7150B@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 3:49 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> NM> (Which would be more interesting, >> NM> shooting nursing professors or shooting professors of nursing?) >> >> Nursing professors of nursing would be most interesting. NM> Hmm. What is the subject? Nursing, with professors as object of the NM> gerund? Or professors, with nursing as a participle? Isn't ambiguity fun? Your choice. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:00:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TN06kq003648 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:00:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A913D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2952989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:45 -0500 Received: from imf28bis.bellsouth.net (mail128.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TMwj426037 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.125]) by imf28bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029225731.LXVU1174.imf28bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:57:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF129C.FFA763C5@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:58:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' > pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? I would expect it in Europe. Not only the owners' pets but also various customers' pets. They might not be , but surely some would be present. And yes, I find the European attitude toward dogs in public places quite good. I've heard waiters in France speak to the newly arrived dogs in restaurants before speaking to the dogs' owners. Seems quite civil to me. > I have a lot of friends with animals in the home. They occasionally > invite guests over, sometimes for dinner. The animals are not ever > present in the dining room, meeting room, whatever. I find that surprising. I've known lots of people whose dogs aren't allowed in the dining room but never anybody who would ban the dog from other rooms. (I assume by "meeting room" you mean living room or den?) I'm suddenly reminded of some friends of mine in Columbus years ago who had an aged german shepherd and then acquired a young spitz (because their son got the Spitz while in law school and almost immediately dumped him on his parents). Anyway, the old german shepherd had long known that she was allowed anywhere except the dining room. When the spitz moved in, the german shepherd would sit near the dining room door at meal time and hold up her paw to block the spitz's attempted entry into that room. Soon the spitz learned and quit trying. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:19:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNJikq003746 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:19:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404307@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:18:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:18:23 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNIN428489 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:18:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.131]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029231958.CLVW10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:19:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF1735.B43DF54A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:18:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > But I would not invite guests to dinner without warning > > them if I planned to have animals in the room. > > Not everyone is like you, I know to my chagrin. I consider animals the default and no animals . I'm suddenly laughing, however, about the time Tweety came flying into the living room in the house of my childhood when the neighbors were over for cocktail hour one Sunday afternoon. Mrs. Smith hadn't seen him coming and was so startled when he landed on her head that she tossed her drink into the air. Tweety responded by saying, "You're so cute." The neighborhood loved telling that story over and over for many years. The experience did not deter her from return visits, I might add. I loved our neighborhood. I loved it because of the children I played with, but I also realized later how neat it was that all the adults were good friends and that they had their rituals like the Sunday cocktail-hour get-togethers that alternated among the various houses. Most of them had gone to college together, although they hadn't been especially close friends and didn't all settle in that neighborhood because of prior friendship. It was just happenstance. Anyway, it was a great neighborhood. > > If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' > > pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? > > I've been to bookstores like that. There are always dogs running around in the co-op here. I enjoy speaking to them when I go there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:20:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNKtkq003752 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:20:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404314@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:19:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:19:34 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3KFYyYDeyQ4GIJAva9GXTD80RdPYkWk1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TN9X427588 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:09:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554002FE28 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A9DC7C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <14687688899.20021029153053@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 29, 2002 3:30:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:09:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029230933.2A9DC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/29/2002, 12:54 PM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> Bethany K. Dumas said: > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > >> > >> >I never had a party, nor has my sister, nor did my parents, when dogs > >> >and/or cats were not present. It would not occur to any of us to hide > >> >the pets. I entertained on a small scale, but my parents and sister > >> > >> I, at least, have not suggested anything. > > KK> What do you think happens to pets at parties where they are not > KK> ? Do they go to another dimension? > > In my experience they may be hiding (cats), they may be put in a room > with a closed door, in the garage, outside, or whatever is appropriate > for the particular critter(s). So you agree with Bethany that putting them in a room with a closed door is not hiding them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:21:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNL3kq003755 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:21:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:19:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:19:42 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNJg428587 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:19:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.131]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029232119.CMLQ10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF1786.8AA79B49@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:19:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029163508.40B117C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Not one of the animals has ever been in the > > guest area or dining-room during a dinner party. > > I think it depends on the size of the party. Why? Do you think they're more likely to be present for larger parties or for smaller ones? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:22:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNMQkq003764 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:22:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404328@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNL5428699 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.131]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029232243.CNFT10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:22:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF17D9.46014707@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:20:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > That's not the issue. Maria is an integral part of my life, but she is > not present at my dinner parties. Ah, but do these parties take place in Maria's own home? I think not. My parties, large or small, are in Spencer's home. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:23:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNNKkq003771 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:23:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404339@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNLw428796 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:58 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-235.panax.com [63.163.42.235]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNLst22304 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:54 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029182036.00a0b850@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:21:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF129C.FFA763C5@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >And yes, I find the European attitude toward dogs in >public places quite good. I've heard waiters in France speak to the >newly arrived dogs in restaurants before speaking to the dogs' owners. >Seems quite civil to me. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The book store in Bar Harbor keeps dog treats behind the counter for visiting dogs. The Internet Cafe keeps a pail of "doggie water" outside the front door for thirsty visiting dogs. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:24:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNOAkq003776 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:24:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404346@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:22:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNMm428972 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:22:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.131]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029232427.COEL10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:24:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF1842.2C7B3555@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:22:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029085404.00a48280@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > My doctor has her golden retriever in the hallway at her office. She is > beautiful. The doctor or the dog? Maybe the doctor is onto a money-making scheme. Maybe she can sell more allergy shots with the dog there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:26:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNQekq003793 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:26:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040436F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:25:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2954893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:25:19 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNPI429250 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:25:18 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A8D726030C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:25:11 EST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:25:06 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <12190942278.20021029162506@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029230933.2A9DC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021029230933.2A9DC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 4:09 PM, Karen Kay wrote: >> In my experience they may be hiding (cats), they may be put in a room >> with a closed door, in the garage, outside, or whatever is appropriate >> for the particular critter(s). KK> So you agree with Bethany that putting them in a room with a closed KK> door is not hiding them? I've not participated in the hiding controversy, and am smart enough not to start now. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:40:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNeLkq003877 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:40:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040444D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:39:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:39:00 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNd0431135 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:39:00 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.19]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4R005USOCV8A@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:38:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:40:15 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DBF1C5F.1090105@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DBF17D9.46014707@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > >>That's not the issue. Maria is an integral part of my life, but she is >>not present at my dinner parties. >> > > Ah, but do these parties take place in Maria's own home? I think not. > My parties, large or small, are in Spencer's home. Aw, barn parties are fun! Especially at shows. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:48:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNm0kq003934 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004044BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:46:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:46:39 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNac430746 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:36:38 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNaac03065 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:36:36 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9TNaZRG010896 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:36:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029155138.00a536d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:52:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF1842.2C7B3555@maynor.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029085404.00a48280@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:22 PM 10/29/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Betty Clark wrote: > > > My doctor has her golden retriever in the hallway at her office. She is > > beautiful. > >The doctor or the dog? Maybe the doctor is onto a money-making scheme. >Maybe she can sell more allergy shots with the dog there. The dog. Maybe she is "weeding out" patients. She doesn't want to deal with allergies. Let them go elsewhere with their whining, wheezing, and complaining. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:48:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNmjkq003940 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A9538@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:47:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:47:23 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNlN431980 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:47:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.19]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029234704.DXJV22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:47:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF1E05.1DEEA47B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:47:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3758950476.20021029073155@gailndan.com> <3DBECA77.C54B3CEA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > NM> do like jello jammed with banana, apple, pineapple, etc. > > That's funny. How's come the rest of the world can't get pineapple suspended in > Jello? Huh? You can even manage it yourself -- you plop it in when the jello is just semi-congealed, then let it continue until it's . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:53:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNrHkq003967 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:53:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040450C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:51:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:51:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sPw5ikCNBy8RYVsAl+a89bia8oigLJb1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNfu431461 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:41:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F219C2FD78 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 910827C10; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:41:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF1735.B43DF54A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 29, 2002 5:18:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:41:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029234155.910827C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I consider animals the default and no animals . Some people feel that way about children. Me, I only have patience for well behaved ones. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:53:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNrrkq003974 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:53:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A9577@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:52:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:52:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:TXTOETREA1RrxsjXAVdixDpjAKZ6mtfi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNgV431543 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:42:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3942FDDE for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CE0E87C10; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:42:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF1786.8AA79B49@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 29, 2002 5:19:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:42:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029234229.CE0E87C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Not one of the animals has ever been in the > > > guest area or dining-room during a dinner party. > > > > I think it depends on the size of the party. > > Why? Do you think they're more likely to be present for larger parties > or for smaller ones? IME, smaller. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:55:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNt7kq003981 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:55:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040451E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:53:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2955845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:53:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:gWTYsuhObypl6oJ2YyMQQH4oOpoKnECH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNhj431630 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:43:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593762FDDE for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1BBA37C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF1842.2C7B3555@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 29, 2002 5:22:42 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:43:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021029234345.1BBA37C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Betty Clark wrote: > > My doctor has her golden retriever in the hallway at her office. She is > > beautiful. > > The doctor or the dog? Maybe the doctor is onto a money-making scheme. > Maybe she can sell more allergy shots with the dog there. I can't imagine that an allergist would bring a dog to work. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:57:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9TNv7kq003990 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:57:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404543@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:55:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:55:45 -0500 Received: from imf28bis.bellsouth.net (mail128.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9TNtj432655 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:55:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.79]) by imf28bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021029235430.NZOB1174.imf28bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:54:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF1FF8.A599F243@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:55:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBEE930.4E769E21@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Well, if pets are not to be there, what would you expect? That they be > taken to Furbabies for the evening? Furrbabies does have some day-care customers. But it means "day." The pick-up hours would prevent somebody's taking a dog there for just an . It would have to be overnight. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:05:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U04xkq004056 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:05:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004045EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:03:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956634 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:03:38 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U03b400834 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:03:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.144]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030000516.CYJA20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:05:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF21D0.A6BAE77E@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:03:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <20021029215900.1732F7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Bethany K. Dumas said: > > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > > around. What would we serve? > > Used sanitary napkins and the excrement of different animals? Don't forget sweat. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:08:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U08Mkq004076 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:08:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404623@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:07:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:07:00 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U070401162 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:07:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.144]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030000839.DAPT20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:08:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:06:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > >> And what about the people who die because there is > >> not a war? > > NM> They die. > > Exactly. The same as those who die because there is a war. >From the point of view of the dead person and his/her loved ones it is of course the same. But then I'm not really sure how people "die because there is not a war." Lots of people die outside of war, of course, but I don't think it's because there's no war. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:09:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U09Vkq004083 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:09:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404638@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:08:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:08:06 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U086401308 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:08:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.159.16b82d46 (17228) for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:08:02 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <159.16b82d46.2af07ce2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:08:02 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2002 5:47:43 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Huh? You can even manage it yourself -- you plop it in when the jello is just semi-congealed, then let it continue until it's . >> It has to be canned pineapple, not fresh or frozen, though. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:12:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0CAkq004094 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:12:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:10:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:10:49 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0An401544 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:10:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.144]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030001227.DDFY20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF2382.D7528868@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:10:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029234155.910827C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > I consider animals the default and no animals . > > Some people feel that way about children. Me, I only have patience for > well behaved ones. I don't consider children a default except when the hosts are of certain ages. Most people my age don't have children living with them, nor did most people in my young years. In a certain age span it is true that I would consider children a default. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:12:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0CKkq004097 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:12:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040465C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:10:58 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U00w400625 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:00:58 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U00uc16576 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:00:56 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9U00vRG017964 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:00:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029161656.00a5d490@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:17:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029234155.910827C10@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DBF1735.B43DF54A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:41 PM 10/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Natalie Maynor said: > > I consider animals the default and no animals . > >Some people feel that way about children. Me, I only have patience for >well behaved ones. Me, too. Children and animals. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:13:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0DPkq004103 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:13:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404665@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:12:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2956998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:12:03 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0C3401694 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:12:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.144]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030001342.DEDJ20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:13:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF23CD.7B434130@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:11:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029085404.00a48280@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.5.2.20021029155138.00a536d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > > My doctor has her golden retriever in the hallway at her office. She is > > > beautiful. > > > >The doctor or the dog? Maybe the doctor is onto a money-making scheme. > >Maybe she can sell more allergy shots with the dog there. > > The dog. Maybe she is "weeding out" patients. She doesn't want to deal > with allergies. Let them go elsewhere with their whining, wheezing, and > complaining. That makes sense. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:14:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0ESkq004117 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:14:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404676@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0D6401838 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.144]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030001442.DEWL20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:14:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF2408.328EBDC2@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:12:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <159.16b82d46.2af07ce2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > << > Huh? You can even manage it yourself -- you plop it in when the jello > is just semi-congealed, then let it continue until it's . > >> > > It has to be canned pineapple, not fresh or frozen, though. I've used canned pineapple chunks when I've made it. What would happen if you tried to use fresh or frozen? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:20:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0Kckq004168 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:20:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004046C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0JG402428 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.126.195aaa25 (17228) for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:12 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <126.195aaa25.2af07f7f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:11 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/29/2002 6:12:32 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I've used canned pineapple chunks when I've made it. What would happen if you tried to use fresh or frozen? >> There's an enzyme in fresh pineapple that keeps Jello liquid. Cooking the pineapple (as in preparing it for canning) kills the enzyme. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:22:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0MQkq004186 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:22:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A9706@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:21:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:21:05 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0L4402555 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:21:04 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.44]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4RQ7F02.D1N for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:18:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBF25B8.C51944F5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:20:08 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3758950476.20021029073155@gailndan.com> <3DBECA77.C54B3CEA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBF1E05.1DEEA47B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Huh? You can even manage it yourself -- you plop it in when the jello > is just semi-congealed, then let it continue until it's . Okay, then what is it that you can't put in Jello? I always just make mine straight up so I don't worry my pretty little head about it. (But I like grapes.) I just remembered that I had some in the mini-pantry! Says down at the bottom of the box, and I quote, "Do not use fresh or frozen pineapple, kiwi, papaya, or guava juice. Gelatin will not set." Hmmm, repeats the same wording on the side, adding gingerroot (insert interrabang) and figs. Maybe Kraft Foods could find a few bucks for you if you can tell them how to avoid these gelatinous faux paus. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:33:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0X2kq004276 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:33:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040475E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:31:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:31:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:yTOYsmiorvMsTlEQqsxIbCD2oGqRsD17@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0Le402589 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:21:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5922FDEA for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B61E77C0C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <3DBF21D0.A6BAE77E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 29, 2002 6: 3:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030002139.B61E77C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Bethany K. Dumas said: > > > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > > > around. What would we serve? > > > > Used sanitary napkins and the excrement of different animals? > > Don't forget sweat. I thought of you yesterday when one of the huskies went straight for my crotch. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:34:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0Yvkq004283 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:34:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A97A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:33:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:33:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fpt7Xqflq/DAgs03h0Nu2fUBNu+w8p6p@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0NY402771 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:23:35 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2742FDF1 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1B6917C0F; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:23:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029161656.00a5d490@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Oct 29, 2002 4:17:10 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:23:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030002334.1B6917C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At 03:41 PM 10/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Natalie Maynor said: > > > I consider animals the default and no animals . > > > >Some people feel that way about children. Me, I only have patience for > >well behaved ones. > > Me, too. Children and animals. And on curmudgeonly days, I feel that way about adults, too.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:36:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0aPkq004292 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404793@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:35:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957610 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:35:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:MQ9/2yQin92oz74iaeKMnFTI/9QOHwT8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0P2403249 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:25:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1D62FE30 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DCEFF7C0C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:25:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <126.195aaa25.2af07f7f@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Oct 29, 2002 7:19:11 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:25:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030002501.DCEFF7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > There's an enzyme in fresh pineapple that keeps Jello liquid. Cooking > the pineapple (as in preparing it for canning) kills the enzyme. I think it's the same stuff that kills the cells on the lining of your mouth and throat and tongue if you eat too much. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:40:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0eRkq004315 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:40:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A97F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:39:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957823 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:39:05 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0T5403774 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:29:05 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9U0T4VO003119 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:29:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:29:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <20021029215900.1732F7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >Bethany K. Dumas said: >> I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing >> around. What would we serve? > >Used sanitary napkins and the excrement of different animals? Whatever turns you on, Karen ... (Yuck!) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:41:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0fAkq004321 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:41:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004047D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:39:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:39:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0Tn403828 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:29:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9U0TmVO003542 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:29:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:29:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029142912.00a6e1a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Betty Clark wrote: >Let's start with a wad of lettuce with some mayo splattered on top. Wedge, please - no wads. But otherwise - Yes! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:42:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0gOkq004326 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:42:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004047E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:41:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:41:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0V2404044 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:31:02 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9U0V1VO004312 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:31:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:31:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF0C2A.35B78F93@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I have said that Spencer doesn't come to the table. He might, however, >run off with your crutch. Calling him "Natalie's dog" sounds awfully >formal. You can feel free to call him by his first name. Ooooooo! Spencer - bring that crutch back here! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:43:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0hlkq004341 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:43:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004047F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:42:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2957997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:42:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0WO404305 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:32:24 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9U0WOVO004896 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:32:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:32:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF0D47.D429D03E@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I just wanted to get the person out alive. I.e., I thought your comments >> were a bit harsh. Perhaps mine were, also. > >I can't see that removing the dog in a situation like that would help >the person get out alive, unless maybe the dog had been taped over the >person's nose. What harsh comments did I make? I call it being I thought you were harsh when you suggested that if guests don't like dogs they can just leave. What happend to southern hospitality? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:45:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0jnkq004384 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:45:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A9821@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:44:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:44:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0YS404730 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:34:28 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9U0YRVO006096 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:34:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:34:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <12190942278.20021029162506@gailndan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: > I've not participated in the hiding controversy, and am smart > enough not to start now. Good choice! Smart man! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:46:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0kMkq004390 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:46:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040480C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:45:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:45:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0Z0404763 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:35:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9U0YxVO006419 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:34:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF1C5F.1090105@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rita Chapman wrote: > Aw, barn parties are fun! Especially at shows. Yes! Now we're talking .... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:46:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0kYkq004394 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:46:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404812@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:45:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:45:12 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0ZC404800 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:35:12 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0ZAc21392 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:35:10 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9U0ZBRG026015 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:35:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029165058.00a48770@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:51:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021030002334.1B6917C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021029161656.00a5d490@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:23 PM 10/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Betty Clark said: > > At 03:41 PM 10/29/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >Natalie Maynor said: > > > > I consider animals the default and no animals . > > > > > >Some people feel that way about children. Me, I only have patience for > > >well behaved ones. > > > > Me, too. Children and animals. > >And on curmudgeonly days, I feel that way about adults, too.:) Absolutely. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:54:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0sNkq004424 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:54:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A98C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:53:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2958557 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:53:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ByZGNF/EDnIdCQHVLygxtlu8UArggPqH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0h1405812 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:43:01 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11182FE40 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A3C07C09; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:42:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 29, 2002 7:29: 4 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:42:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030004257.7A3C07C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >Bethany K. Dumas said: > >> I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > >> around. What would we serve? > > > >Used sanitary napkins and the excrement of different animals? > > Whatever turns you on, Karen ... > > (Yuck!) You forget--I'm allergic to anything with fur. This is one dinner I'd stay away from. But I do know that dogs like these things. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 18:56:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U0uHkq004448 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:56:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A98D5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:54:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:54:55 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U0ss406892 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:54:54 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.44]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4RRRU00.U1A for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:52:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBF2DA7.74C4F920@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:53:59 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Betty Clark wrote: > > >Let's start with a wad of lettuce with some mayo splattered on top. > > Wedge, please - no wads. But otherwise - Yes! Y'know, actually, that's starting to sound not too bad...but MW for me, please. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:04:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U14Akq004508 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:04:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004048F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:02:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2959717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:02:48 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U12l408847 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:02:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.44]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4RS4Z03.91M; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:00:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBF2F86.C555B432@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:01:58 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The VRWC strikes again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU NBC Nightly News has just run two +campaign ads+ for Democratic candidates - one marginally acceptable, one blatantly not so - in the guise of "news stories", in the space of twenty minutes. I guess we're not supposed to notice these things. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:24:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1OVkq004636 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:24:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004049E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:23:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:23:09 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1D9409816 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:13:09 -0500 Received: from pmspir1-135.rconnect.com ([209.163.1.135]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186hPu-0007Ad-00; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:13:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jfarrell@mail.rconnect.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DBF2F86.C555B432@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DBF2F86.C555B432@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:14:50 -0600 To: "John Williams" , English Language Discussion Group From: Jim FarrellCTHD Subject: Re: The VRWC strikes again Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > NBC Nightly News has just run two +campaign ads+ for Democratic >candidates - one marginally acceptable, one blatantly not so - in the >guise of "news stories", in the space of twenty minutes. I guess we're >not supposed to notice these things. -- JMW And even in my beloved AP I am seeing a tilt. The worst is on Wellstone/Mondale, but maybe that's understandable -- even good reporters can get caught up in emotion and let it (subconsciously, I hope) subtly color their wording. But, dammit, the story of the voting reform (yeah, I know) bill signing this evening gagged me. One sentence said "Bush signed the bill too late" for it to have an effect on this fall's elections. Nary a word about Congress passing it "too late." I suppose it's too much to expect newspeople to review the Constitution before each story, but a guy would hope that they'd remember a little from the high school civics unit in how a bill becomes law. Jim From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:27:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1RRkq004649 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:27:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404A06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:26:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:26:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:t7qHl4yjLwS4DcRj7InLy0DbF7twr49b@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1G5410026 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:16:05 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B472FE88 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5E6F47C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:16:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Travel web sites? To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:16:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030011604.5E6F47C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Recommendations? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:35:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1ZSkq004698 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:35:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404A92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:34:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:34:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:gsXV5/57d/PU+I9lir/0zKbU417E0Cfk@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1O6410735 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:24:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316482FDFD for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0ABA77C0D; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:24:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The VRWC strikes again In-Reply-To: from Jim FarrellCTHD at "Oct 29, 2002 7:14:50 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:24:04 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030012405.0ABA77C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jim FarrellCTHD said: > story, but a guy would hope that they'd remember a little from the > high school civics unit in how a bill becomes law. I remember the song, but I couldn't tell you where it's from. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:37:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1bOkq004710 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:37:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404AAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:36:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2960917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:36:02 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1a1411815 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:36:01 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1a1b31056 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:36:01 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.170.143]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g9U1XLv22475 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:33:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:33:33 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The VRWC strikes again Message-ID: <836495178.1035923613@LAPLAND> In-Reply-To: Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, 7:14 PM -0600 Jim FarrellCTHD wrote: > but a guy would hope that they'd remember a little from the > high school civics unit in how a bill becomes law. > Or at least School House Rock from Saturday cartoons. "I'm only a bill and I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill" Welcome back, Jim. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:43:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1hnkq004744 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:43:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404B00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:42:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:41:39 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1fd412434 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:41:39 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1fdb31511 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:41:39 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.170.143]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g9U1dov25572 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:39:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:40:02 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Weapons of Mass Destruction Message-ID: <836883937.1035924002@LAPLAND> Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have it on higher authority than President Bush that the threat of attacks using weapons of mass destruction is very real to us USAns. It didn't explicitly name Iraq. The source: The exclusion paragraph on an Accidental Death & Dismemberment Insurance program. "...; declared, undeclared war or any act of war which includes (but is not limited to) attacks using weapons of mass destruction;..." In the past I had seen references to nuclear attacks, but never the WMD phrase. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:49:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1nwkq004787 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:49:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A9B67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:48:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:48:35 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1mZ412951 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:48:35 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021030014829.FREZ11634.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:48:29 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029174140.0303e240@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:48:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <15773941402.20021029114146@gailndan.com> References: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester writes, >PATRIOT ACT The whole thing is an acronym. Close. The acronym is "USA PATRIOT": "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001". "Act" is just "Act". Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:58:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1w1kq004822 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:58:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404BF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:56:38 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1u7413825 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:56:07 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.7]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4RULU01.L1A for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:53:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBF3C06.C85513E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:55:18 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I didn't know this References: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029174140.0303e240@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Close. The acronym is "USA PATRIOT": "Uniting and Strengthening America by > Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism > Act of 2001". Oh, spew. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 19:59:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U1xpkq004831 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:59:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00404C14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:29 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1wS414056 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:28 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021030015823.GDRX11634.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 01:58:23 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:30 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000301c27ea9$2540c610$48305b80@EAGLE72> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Trader Joe's is coming to Wilmington, DE! The store will be located on > the corner of 202 and Naamans Road in the Market Square Shopping Center > in Wilmington. Our store in Wayne is wonderful. > > > alec Hmph. Ours, in Hadley, MA, WAS supposed to open "this fall" but now won't be open until "sometime in the spring." I am devastated. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com catching up From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 20:03:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U237kq004871 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:03:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404C48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:01:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:01:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:IUlAa8bP7auaSGPowWkPgTCVdHPaXCQ4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1pf413372 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:51:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0AE2FDF8 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 526EC7C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:51:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029174140.0303e240@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Oct 29, 2002 5:48:24 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:51:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030015140.526EC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Dan Lester writes, > > >PATRIOT ACT The whole thing is an acronym. > > Close. The acronym is "USA PATRIOT": "Uniting and Strengthening America by > Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism > Act of 2001". > > "Act" is just "Act". Thanks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 20:09:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U29rkq004907 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:09:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00404CBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:08:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:08:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mDLGOWB5hdDzVaWOWOxuHbJaS9pZ8On1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1wV414066 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EC62FE22 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6798F7C12; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <3DBF3C06.C85513E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Oct 29, 2002 6:55:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030015830.6798F7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Close. The acronym is "USA PATRIOT": "Uniting and Strengthening America by > > Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism > > Act of 2001". > > Oh, spew. Is it the 'appropriate tools'? That made me gag. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 20:10:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U2AHkq004911 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:10:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040A9C6C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:08:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2961951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:08:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Me8bbyxBVUolaMjQGvoLI29ZUYG94EaC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U1ws414085 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F452FE1E for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 741657C12; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: from Adam Hartfield at "Oct 29, 2002 8:58:30 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:58:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030015853.741657C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield said: > Hmph. Ours, in Hadley, MA, WAS supposed to open "this fall" but now won't be > open until "sometime in the spring." I am devastated. I feel your pain! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 20:13:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U2Dxkq004922 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:13:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404D09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:12:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:12:36 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U2CZ415311 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:12:35 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U2CXc15903 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:12:33 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9U2CYRG007706; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:12:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021029181426.00a56c70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:14:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <3DBF3C06.C85513E9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029174140.0303e240@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:55 PM 10/29/2002 -0700, John Williams wrote: >Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > Close. The acronym is "USA PATRIOT": "Uniting and Strengthening America by > > Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism > > Act of 2001". > > Oh, spew. > >JMW Well, I didn't know. Thanks, Pete. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 20:40:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U2eLkq005081 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:40:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404E6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:38:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2962946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:38:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:20+Yr0yHr6EH9avvSKmB8jhZ302mvimk@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U2Sw416575 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:28:58 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C912FE2B for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AF7DC7C0E; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:28:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Never mind To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:28:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030022857.AF7DC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I managed to find the almost-perfect-flight on Orbitz for about $50 less than what I could find on Hotwire. Weird. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 20:58:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U2wHkq005174 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00404F86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:56:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2964234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:56:51 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U2uo419106 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:56:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9U2unj06114 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:56:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:58:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >But lard! Never! > > - D. M. > > Well, you know, my grandmother made a traditional Danish New Year's Day > soup. Crystal clear chicken broth with Danish (like Swedish) meatballs > and lard dumplings, a celery stick and a carrot stick. Each of those > things had a meaning, which I don't remember. But, I have to say that > those dumplings were light and wonderful. She showed me how to make them > once, but I don't remember. I do know that she rolled them into a > longish roundish shape and then put them on top of a pot lid over a > boiling pan of water for a time. I think that was the whole thing. > Really good. > > alyce Yes, lard is good to use for cooking. Just not for eating. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:11:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3B6kq005241 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:11:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040504C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:09:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2964899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:09:43 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U39h420472 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:09:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.144]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030031122.CDGZ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:11:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF4D70.62C5709F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:09:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <126.195aaa25.2af07f7f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > There's an enzyme in fresh pineapple that keeps Jello liquid. Cooking > the pineapple (as in preparing it for canning) kills the enzyme. Interesting. I've noticed other interesting bits re jello. My recipe for the fruit salad calls for using the liquid from the pineapple can, but I've discovered that you have to make sure it's cold -- that it's been in the refrigerator. Otherwise the jello doesn't gel. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:14:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3ENkq005253 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:14:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040507C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:13:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2964983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:13:00 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U3D0420733 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:13:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.144]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030031439.CFWC15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:14:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF4E36.30F28BDC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:12:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DBC4852.C33E01FA@maynor.net> <3DBC5E1E.9070108@swbell.net> <3DBC65D3.E1C9D4AE@maynor.net> <3DBC68BB.6070201@swbell.net> <3DBC80FD.84747C20@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028122842.00a09b60@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDCF1B.D1098CD6@maynor.net> <3758950476.20021029073155@gailndan.com> <3DBECA77.C54B3CEA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DBF1E05.1DEEA47B@maynor.net> <3DBF25B8.C51944F5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Okay, then what is it that you can't put in Jello? I wouldn't have known what you meant here if I hadn't just read Evelyn's posting. But I see a connection now. > "Do not use fresh or frozen pineapple, kiwi, papaya, or guava juice. > Gelatin will not set." I've never read the fine print on a jello box, but that's ok since it would not have occurred to me to use any of the above. I do use fresh banana and fresh apple. I also once used fresh orange chunks but then discovered that it works just as well and is much easier to get canned mandarin oranges. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:15:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3FCkq005293 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:15:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00405088@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:13:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:13:49 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U3Dn420775 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:13:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.144]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030031528.CGKS15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:15:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF4E67.66D6A980@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:13:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <20021030002139.B61E77C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Don't forget sweat. > > I thought of you yesterday when one of the huskies went straight for > my crotch. Were they properly in tune with the lunar vibes? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:18:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3IKkq005306 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:18:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AA049@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U3Gv421095 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:16:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.144]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030031836.CIMS15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:18:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF4F23.FE988FA3@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:16:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I thought you were harsh when you suggested that if guests don't like dogs > they can just leave. What happend to southern hospitality? If Southern hospitality means evicting a dog from his own home, then I am against it. I will happily do things that I've heard some people say they won't do for guests, like give up my bedroom to them. But there ain't no way I would cast Spencer out of his own home because a visitor doesn't like dogs. I would consider that quite harsh. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:19:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3JXkq005316 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:19:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AA04E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:18:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:18:10 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U3IA421193 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:18:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.144]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030031949.CJLJ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:19:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBF4F6B.19CF55EF@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:18:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Travel web sites? References: <20021030011604.5E6F47C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Recommendations? What do you mean? What kind of travel site? There are sites for transportation and lodging, sites about sites and sights, etc. etc. For hotels I normally use travelweb.com. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:26:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3Qckq005348 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:26:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00405140@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:25:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965078 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:25:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:m9rD4hN4uxC+Tghl0xr+wcOFw1FFTyUt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U3FF420949 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:15:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8122FD83 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B54F57C10; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:15:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <3DBF4E67.66D6A980@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 29, 2002 9:13:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:15:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030031513.B54F57C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Don't forget sweat. > > > > I thought of you yesterday when one of the huskies went straight for > > my crotch. > > Were they properly in tune with the lunar vibes? They were very interested in crotches and butts. I have a picture seared into my brain of Ligniere bending over to look under the couch for a juggling ball and one of the dogs... Well, never mind. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:30:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3UYkq005391 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:30:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00405170@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:29:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965209 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:29:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:61vq8gY8vks8YgW/VRr4/YESF3IZ/nEJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U3JA421265 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:19:10 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509942FD82 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0E4517C0F; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF4F23.FE988FA3@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 29, 2002 9:16:51 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030031907.0E4517C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > I thought you were harsh when you suggested that if guests don't like dogs > > they can just leave. What happend to southern hospitality? > > If Southern hospitality means evicting a dog from his own home, then I > am against it. I will happily do things that I've heard some people say > they won't do for guests, like give up my bedroom to them. But there > ain't no way I would cast Spencer out of his own home because a visitor > doesn't like dogs. I would consider that quite harsh. Being allergic to dogs doesn't mean you don't like them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 21:30:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U3Uskq005394 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:30:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00405174@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:29:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2965223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:29:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:pNsKg037v2nZlnisEyPOVDZ92Du7Tv2s@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U3JV421292 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:19:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0142C2FD82 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C77087C0C; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Travel web sites? In-Reply-To: <3DBF4F6B.19CF55EF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 29, 2002 9:18: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:19:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030031930.C77087C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Recommendations? > > What do you mean? What kind of travel site? There are sites for > transportation and lodging, sites about sites and sights, etc. etc. For > hotels I normally use travelweb.com. Planes. But it's too late. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 22:31:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U4VNkq005764 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:31:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004056CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2972271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:30:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:IELYnXTVR38kGgyOey7MdieG0PqLLS63@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U4K0429037 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:20:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903862FDD4 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 241817C0F; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Snow! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030041959.241817C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In Colorado--I saw it on the news. (In Boulder.) Here, it was 75 today, should be 82 tomorrow... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 23:56:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U5uCkq006240 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:56:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00405C38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 0:54:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:49 -0500 Received: from jandor.look.ca (jandor.look.ca [207.136.80.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U5sm406975 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:48 -0500 Received: from on-tor-blr-a58-03-378.look.ca ([216.154.12.124]) by jandor.look.ca with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 186loS-0007kh-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.20021029231115.25e7fc36@mail.look.ca> X-Sender: jemcinto@mail.look.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:11:15 To: English Language Discussion Group From: James McIntosh Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] 12 bullets - 0 hit me In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021012193901.00a25460@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3.0.6.16.20021012171804.24970c16@mail.look.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:39 PM 10/12/02 -0700, Betty wrote: >What a frightening experience! Thank you. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 23:56:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U5uEkq006243 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:56:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00405C3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 0:54:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:50 -0500 Received: from jandor.look.ca (jandor.look.ca [207.136.80.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U5so406980 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:50 -0500 Received: from on-tor-blr-a58-03-378.look.ca ([216.154.12.124]) by jandor.look.ca with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 186loU-0007kh-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.20021029231613.093fb0bc@mail.look.ca> X-Sender: jemcinto@mail.look.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:16:13 To: English Language Discussion Group From: James McIntosh Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] 12 bullets - 0 hit me In-Reply-To: <3DAA7F10.9747.3DF48DFF@localhost> References: <3.0.6.16.20021012171804.24970c16@mail.look.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:23 AM 10/14/02 EDT, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >I'm glad you're ok. The "0 hit me" is extra cause to be thankful today. > > >BrP Thank you. >Paul R. Barfoot >Special Collections >Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 29 23:56:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9U5uGkq006247 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:56:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00405C3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 0:54:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2977678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:52 -0500 Received: from jandor.look.ca (jandor.look.ca [207.136.80.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9U5sq406987 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:52 -0500 Received: from on-tor-blr-a58-03-378.look.ca ([216.154.12.124]) by jandor.look.ca with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 186loV-0007kh-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:54:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.20021030001521.093fae84@mail.look.ca> X-Sender: jemcinto@mail.look.ca (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:15:21 To: English Language Discussion Group From: James McIntosh Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] 12 bullets - 0 hit me In-Reply-To: <3DAB6323.5BF27F82@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DAA7F10.9747.3DF48DFF@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:36 PM 10/14/02 -0700, John Williams wrote: >> >> > I mentioned the event to a travelling saleswoman in Wal-Mart. >> > >> > She said that shootings are never mentioned in the media, whether >> > newspaper, radio, or TV, >> > unless someone is murdered. >> > >> > There are just too many of them. > > Oh, surely that can't be true. Not in Canada with all their "sensible" gun >laws. > (Besides, I thought bombs were more popular in Ontario.) > >JMW The federal government has probably spent billions of taxpayers hard-earned dollars on a registry of guns. Maybe twenty billion by now. I don't like to pay attention to the numbers, when I have no ability to influence the big-shots in Ottawa. Teenage street gangs pay no attention to registering their enforcement tools. Their guns help build and maintain their 'turf'. The federal government and the teenage street gangs might as well live on different planets. The fire bombs were used for years in Quebec on stores and businesses in which any English words were visible from the street. With the election of a separatist party several years ago, the threats to stores and businesses are carried out by government bureaucrats, with no need for ordinary citizens to fire-bomb the few organizations still having English visible. The government of Quebec permits the words in English to be visible, but of a size no more than half the size of the corresponding French words. Disobedience results in crushing fines, and can cause bankruptcy. In Quebec, a respectable citizen is not just someone who speaks, reads and writes French fluently, but someone visibly Caucasian, with a French last name, and a family tree going back maybe three hundred years of habitation in North America. When the separatists lost their poll to leave Canada by a small margin, the separatist leader blamed the non-French, especially the recent immigrants, for their betrayal of the people who were genuine Quebec citizens. They respect purity, and non-French are the impurities. Jim McIntosh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 05:21:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UBLTkq008272 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 05:21:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004068DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 6:20:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:20:02 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail121.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UBK2432452 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:20:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.130]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030112141.WOVH4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBFC05C.9528B7A1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 05:19:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <20021030031513.B54F57C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > They were very interested in crotches and butts. I have a picture I remember a funny cartoon of a dog being sniffed by a St. Peterish dog while entering heaven. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 05:22:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UBMXkq008279 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 05:22:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ABCAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 6:21:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:21:03 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail121.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UBL2432675 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:21:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.130]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030112242.WPIW4128.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBFC098.A6882F80@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 05:20:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021030031907.0E4517C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Being allergic to dogs doesn't mean you don't like them. I know. But Bethany was talking about not liking dogs. "Don't like" was her terminology. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 06:54:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UCsukq008850 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:54:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00406C1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 7:53:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:53:29 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UCrS424488 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:53:28 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UCrSb30283 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:53:28 -0500 Received: from awildbevm7 (AW.MIS.uri.edu [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g9UCqGv29508 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:52:16 -0500 Message-ID: <01f701c28012$60c9a6b0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021030041959.241817C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Snow! Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:46:33 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yes! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: Snow! > In Colorado--I saw it on the news. (In Boulder.) Here, it was 75 > today, should be 82 tomorrow... > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 07:55:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UDtvkq009249 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:55:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AC55F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 8:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2993786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:54:29 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UDsQ400455 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:54:29 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A48F2CD00F0; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:54:23 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:54:17 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4051729272.20021030065417@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 5:34 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: >> I've not participated in the hiding controversy, and am smart >> enough not to start now. BKD> Good choice! Smart man! I try. The third part of the three-legged stool is often useful. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 07:57:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UDvAkq009256 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:57:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AC581@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 8:55:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2993390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:55:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UDjh431684 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:45:43 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9UDjgVO006187 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:45:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:45:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBF4F23.FE988FA3@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >If Southern hospitality means evicting a dog from his own home, then I >am against it. I will happily do things that I've heard some people say No one has suggested that. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 07:59:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UDxNkq009268 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:59:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004070F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 8:57:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2993462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:57:55 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UDlt431964 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:47:55 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9UDlsVO008500 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:47:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:47:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBFC098.A6882F80@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Being allergic to dogs doesn't mean you don't like them. > >I know. But Bethany was talking about not liking dogs. "Don't like" >was her terminology. Context, please. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:02:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UE2wkq009306 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:02:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00407176@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:01:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:01:30 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UE1U402413 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:01:30 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A6378302A2; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:01:27 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:01:23 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6052155095.20021030070123@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: I didn't know this In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021029174140.0303e240@mail.istori.com> References: <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <20021029173054.181F57C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021029174140.0303e240@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 6:48 PM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> Dan Lester writes, >>PATRIOT ACT The whole thing is an acronym. PK> Close. The acronym is "USA PATRIOT": "Uniting and Strengthening America by PK> Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism PK> Act of 2001". PK> "Act" is just "Act". Thank you. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:04:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu ([128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UE4Pkq009312 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:04:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AC663@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:02:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:02:38 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UE2b402849 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:02:37 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A67A8B02A2; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:02:34 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:02:31 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <19752222802.20021030070231@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030022857.AF7DC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030022857.AF7DC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 7:28 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> I managed to find the almost-perfect-flight on Orbitz for about $50 KK> less than what I could find on Hotwire. Weird. I've always found the best deals on Orbitz, except when they could be beaten by Southwest, who doesn't play with Orbitz any more. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:06:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UE64kq009321 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:06:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004071CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:04:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:04:37 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UE4b403134 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:04:37 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A6F224030A; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:04:34 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:04:30 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17752342023.20021030070430@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Snow! In-Reply-To: <20021030041959.241817C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030041959.241817C0F@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 9:19 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> In Colorado--I saw it on the news. (In Boulder.) Here, it was 75 KK> today, should be 82 tomorrow... In Idaho too, as well, apparently as the upper great plains. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:06:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UE6dkq009330 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:06:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004071E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:05:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:05:12 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9UE5B403213 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:05:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 11021 invoked by uid 417); 30 Oct 2002 14:04:59 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 14:04:59 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:02:49 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:36:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU KK>That looks good, Red. Why are you red? I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. Red -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:06:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UE6okq009334 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:06:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004071EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:05:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:05:22 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UE5M403225 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:05:22 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust117.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.119]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:05:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:07:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Yes, lard is good to use for cooking. > Just not for eating. But this was for eating. Lard and flour somehow mixed up and steamed. Wish I could remember. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:12:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UEC8kq009360 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:12:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AC74B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:10:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:10:40 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UEAe403956 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:10:40 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A85D1270226; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:10:37 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:10:33 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16052705276.20021030071033@gailndan.com> To: Words list Subject: Tuna, Canada, Pres. Bush, and SUVs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU October 30, 2002 The Top 16 Future Quotes from Grandparents 16> "Hell, I remember when we only had 500 channels of mind-numbing crap to watch!" 15> "You call that *dancing*? Shoot! Tell your grandma to bring that 'Macarena' CD over here and I'll show you some REAL dancing." 14> "Stop laughing! Canada really used to be a separate country!" 13> "When I was your age, we didn't have surgically implanted telepathy microchips! When we wanted to talk to our friends, we had to use a CELL PHONE!" 12> "Senility, my ass! I'm telling you President Hasselhoff used to have a talking car!" 11> "When I was your age, we didn't admire the grace and beauty of a tuna swimming in some aquarium tank! No, sirree. We *ate* the bastards -- right out of the can!" 10> "In my day, Ozzy was scary and Anna Nicole was sexy." 9> "Back in the day, we couldn't get sex whenever we wanted from perfectly lifelike robots. 'The day' sucked, to be honest." 8> "When I was your age, we could only pee in one color -- and that was plenty!" 7> "We didn't have rap music. If someone talked while the music was playing, we beat the snot out of 'em." 6> "You kids today will never know the warm feeling a fully soaked adult undergarment will give you." 5> "When I was your age, there wasn't any Internet. I had to walk barefoot in the snow to the Quicky Mart and sneak my porn home in brown paper bags the way God intended." 4> "Your generation doesn't understand the importance of supporting your president. Just you wait and see, President Bush will get that bastard Saddam Hussein -- even if her father and grandfather couldn't." 3> "Did I ever tell you about the time I got my pole waxed in the Oval Office, Bill Jr.?" 2> "You kids have it so easy today! I made the trip every day. 10 miles, uphill, in the snow -- in an old-fashioned 2004 Lincoln Navigator." and Topfive.com's Number 1 Future Quote from Grandparents... 1> "Aliens from another galaxy -- big deal! When I was young, we had Michael Jackson!" -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:19:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UEJBkq009414 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:19:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AC817@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:17:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:17:43 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UEHh405235 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:17:43 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AA02A702A2; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:17:38 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:17:35 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <153126411.20021030071735@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 7:07 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Doris Markland wrote: >> >> Yes, lard is good to use for cooking. >> Just not for eating. ac> But this was for eating. Lard and flour somehow mixed up and steamed. ac> Wish I could remember. Lard and flour sounds like pie crust to me. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 08:24:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UEO1kq009445 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:24:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004073BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:22:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:22:34 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UEMX405952 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:22:34 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9UEMXj00970 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:22:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002401c28020$0805c5a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:21:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > But this was for eating. Lard and flour somehow mixed up and steamed. > Wish I could remember. > > alyce Yes, just as lard makes good pies. They are known to be hard to digest, however. That's why Crisco did so well when it came out. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:00:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UF0Xkq009678 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:00:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ACD4E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 9:59:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:59:04 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UEx4413095 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:59:04 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GXWR>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:00:44 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GXWQ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:00:36 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021030155313.03142470@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:58:48 +0100 Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:01 29.10.2002 -0800 skrev Karen Kay: >Bethany K. Dumas said: >> If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' >> pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? > >I've been to bookstores like that. I was at a very good restaurant like that at our (small - 8 rooms) hotel in Speracedes wher we stayed three nights before we moved into the house we borrowed. The dog was nice and just wished to be petted, he was not after the food. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:04:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UF4Dkq009698 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:04:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040782F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:02:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:02:46 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UF2j413752 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:02:45 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9UF2ij12701 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:02:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003501c28025$a68255e0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021030041959.241817C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Snow! Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:01:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In Colorado--I saw it on the news. (In Boulder.) Here, it was 75 > today, should be 82 tomorrow... > > Karen It was raining when I went to bed, but this morning the ground was white and it looks like it's been snowing for hours. Funny thing, most of the leaves are still on the trees, which is so unusual at the end of October. I guess we just haven't had a strong wind recently, which is also unusual for Nebraska. Pretty out, though. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:12:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFC2kq009748 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:12:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00407979@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:10:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:10:34 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFAX415408 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:10:33 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3GXXV>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:12:14 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3GXXS; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:12:03 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021030160952.0301dd88@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:10:14 +0100 Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <126.195aaa25.2af07f7f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:19 29.10.2002 -0500 skrev Evelyn Duncan: >In a message dated 10/29/2002 6:12:32 PM Central Standard Time, >natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: > ><< >I've used canned pineapple chunks when I've made it. What would happen >if you tried to use fresh or frozen? > > >>> > >There's an enzyme in fresh pineapple that keeps Jello liquid. Cooking >the pineapple (as in preparing it for canning) kills the enzyme. And a similar problem with kiwi as I once discovered. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:22:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFMikq009825 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:22:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00407ACA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:21:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:21:16 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFLG418083 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:21:16 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A8E8EC0266; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:21:12 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:21:09 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you were in the USA I'd guess Nebraska, but since you're not, I'm clueless. dan 10/30/2002, 7:06 AM, Red wrote: KK>>That looks good, Red. Why are you red? R> I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. R> Red R> -- -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:25:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFPMkq009849 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:25:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00407B24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:23:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:23:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GAcl3Xw8whePy6cKqQKnjRgR0gv56lIA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFDs416221 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:13:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1982FE1F for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5CCD47C0F; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:13:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <19752222802.20021030070231@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 30, 2002 7: 2:31 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:13:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/29/2002, 7:28 PM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> I managed to find the almost-perfect-flight on Orbitz for about $50 > KK> less than what I could find on Hotwire. Weird. > > I've always found the best deals on Orbitz, except when they > could be beaten by Southwest, who doesn't play with Orbitz any > more. Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:26:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFQJkq009858 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:26:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00407B41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:24:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:24:51 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFOo418728 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:24:50 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4SW1P01.42W for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:22:37 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBFFA47.C7487DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:27:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <20021030031513.B54F57C10@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBFC05C.9528B7A1@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I remember a funny cartoon of a dog being sniffed by a St. Peterish dog > while entering heaven. I recently saw a cartoon of a bunch of dogs milling around sniffing, and stuck to each one's butt was one of those convention nametags, "Hello - I'm Scruff", or whatever. Hmmmm. Maybe you had to have been there. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:26:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFQrkq009867 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:26:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00407B60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:25:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:25:19 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFPJ418854 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:25:19 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-66.panax.com [63.163.41.66]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFPHt01986 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:25:17 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030101826.00b4ff28@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:23:03 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: the dining experience Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As I lacked any ambition to make dinner last evening, we went down to Mache Bistro. Michael, the waiter/bartender/maitre d' and I often talk about the food and its preparation, including ingredients that we like/don't like. Last night as he served my entree (duck breast) he said: "I'm sorry, we couldn't find any zucchini, so you'll have to make do with broccoli." cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:28:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFSkkq009873 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:28:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AD386@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:27:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:27:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XC8UrBq+MzGTiZws03/JddC8LVWLUYii@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFHH417007 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:17:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514412FDC0 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:17:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 29E537C0E; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:17:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> from Red at "Oct 30, 2002 7:36:19 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:17:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030151717.29E537C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Red said: > KK>That looks good, Red. Why are you red? Actually, that was Dan. > I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. I haven't a clue. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:30:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFUakq009911 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:30:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AD3C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:08 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFT7419794 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:07 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4SW8U01.A2Q for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:26:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:31:24 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:31:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFVKkq009922 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:31:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00407BF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:49 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFTm419943 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-66.panax.com [63.163.41.66]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFTlt02995 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:47 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:21 AM 10/30/2002 -0700, dan wrote: >If you were in the USA I'd guess Nebraska, but since you're not, I'm >clueless. > >dan > >10/30/2002, 7:06 AM, Red wrote: > >KK>>That looks good, Red. Why are you red? > >R> I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. Seems to me that Alabama is sometimes referred to as the Red Tide; for that matter, doesn't Cornell's nickname have something to do with "red"? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:39:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFdRkq009965 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:39:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00407CF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:37:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:37:59 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFbx421718 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:37:59 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFbwb15864 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:37:58 -0500 Received: from awildbevm7 (AW.MIS.uri.edu [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g9UFZLv11232 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:35:21 -0500 Message-ID: <030a01c28029$29126100$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030101826.00b4ff28@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: the dining experience Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:29:38 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi Clyde... 'a culinary question: Regarding soft-shell crabs, are they a certain species, and are they harvested just after molting, and where? 'Any idea? 'Any good recipes? 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: the dining experience > As I lacked any ambition to make dinner last evening, we went down to Mache > Bistro. Michael, the waiter/bartender/maitre d' and I often talk about > the food and its preparation, including ingredients that we like/don't > like. Last night as he served my entree (duck breast) he said: "I'm > sorry, we couldn't find any zucchini, so you'll have to make do with broccoli." > > cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:47:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFkxkq010028 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:47:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00407E5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:45:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:45:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7XPuLUfAwvrgeu6Z8+NLsKNCRo0+qUDd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFZV421111 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:35:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25FCF2FE68 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D88CD7C12; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:35:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Oct 30, 2002 8:31:24 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:35:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030153530.D88CD7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. > > If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. I'll make sure to ask my sister to move. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 09:53:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UFrqkq010070 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:53:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AD7BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:52:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3006601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:52:24 -0500 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UFqOm25549 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:52:24 -0500 Received: from user-vcaummi.dsl.mindspring.com ([216.175.90.210] helo=[192.168.1.101]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 186v8p-0005p3-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:52:23 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: verdie@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:51:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Janet Hardy Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Doris Markland wrote: >> >> Yes, lard is good to use for cooking. >> Just not for eating. > >But this was for eating. Lard and flour somehow mixed up and steamed. >Wish I could remember. Many pie-crust mavens insist that lard makes the tenderest, flakiest pie crusts -- and that's basically just lard and flour, although baked rather than steamed. Janet From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 10:30:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UGUFkq010318 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:30:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ADCB4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:28:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3010194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:28:47 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGSkm00410 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:28:46 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9UGSjG17783 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:28:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000001c28031$aa745a20$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:51:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Come on, boy . . Don't be coy. Why are you red? Is it your head? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 10:41:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UGfBkq010385 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:41:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040854C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:39:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3010369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:39:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XcrptF2AC0idq5k6AjrRPxPiSpQNCxRe@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGTgm00708 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:29:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45062FF3E for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 856267C10; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:29:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <000001c28031$aa745a20$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Oct 30, 2002 9:51:28 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:29:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030162941.856267C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > Come on, boy . . > Don't be coy. > Why are you red? > Is it your head? Do you know a lot of red-headed Indians? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 10:46:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UGkmkq010435 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:46:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00408611@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:45:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3011905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:45:19 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGjIm04088 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:45:19 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9UGjHG07463 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:45:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c28033$f8969220$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021030162941.856267C10@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:47:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland said: > > Come on, boy . . > > Don't be coy. > > Why are you red? > > Is it your head? > > Do you know a lot of red-headed Indians? > > Karen Do you know many Indians rooting for Big Red Nebraska football team? (If they're here, yes, but there, maybe not) Do we know where this guy is? No guess is too goofy. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 10:48:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UGmYkq010444 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:48:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ADF3C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:06 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGl6m04438 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:06 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-100.panax.com [63.163.41.100]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGl4t19420 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:05 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:46:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen Kay wrote: > > Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. > > If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. >JMW Not coming to Acadiafest ?? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 10:49:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UGn9kq010451 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:49:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ADF48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:41 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGlem04480 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:40 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12369 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 02 11:47:37 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 02 11:47:30 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <3DBFC6CB.21348.DCC94F@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000401c28033$f8969220$9d0332d1@0018079268> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Doris Markland said: > > > Come on, boy . . > > > Don't be coy. > > > Why are you red? > > > Is it your head? > > > > Do you know a lot of red-headed Indians? > > > > Karen > > Do you know many Indians rooting > for Big Red Nebraska football team? > (If they're here, yes, but there, maybe not) > Do we know where this guy is? > No guess is too goofy. > > - D. M. Mars? BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 10:50:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UGoukq010459 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:50:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040867F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:28 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGnSm04746 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:28 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-100.panax.com [63.163.41.100]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UGnQt19918 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:27 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114903.00a04190@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <000401c28033$f8969220$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <20021030162941.856267C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Do you know many Indians rooting >for Big Red Nebraska football team? >(If they're here, yes, but there, maybe not) >Do we know where this guy is? >No guess is too goofy. > - D. M. Australia ? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:09:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UH9kkq010578 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:09:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE212@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:08:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:08:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f134.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.134]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UH8H608187 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:08:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:08:12 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:08:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:08:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2002 17:08:12.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED94B390:01C28036] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Dan Lester >If you were in the USA I'd guess Nebraska, but since you're not, I'm >clueless.> >10/30/2002, 7:06 AM, Red wrote: > >KK>>That looks good, Red. Why are you red? > >R> I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. > >R> Red I can only guess the Red Devils (Man U.). Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:11:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHBDkq010587 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:11:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE233@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:09:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:09:42 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UH9f608357 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:09:41 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A2501660236; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:09:36 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:09:32 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15163443777.20021030100932@gailndan.com> To: Words list Subject: snow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It is snowing in Boise now. Fairly hard flurries. High to be 35, low tonite in the teens, back to upper fifties this weekend. But by then I'll be in Palm Springs and enjoying the sun and the pool at the conference. dan -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:12:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHCPkq010598 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:12:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE262@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:10:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:10:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f50.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHAu608667 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:10:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:10:51 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:10:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:10:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2002 17:10:51.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C68D310:01C28037] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >Doris Markland said: > > Come on, boy . . > > Don't be coy. > > Why are you red? > > Is it your head? > >Do you know a lot of red-headed Indians? The guy in the office next to me uses henna for highlights. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:12:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHCTkq010601 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:12:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE266@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:00 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHB0608688 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:00 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A29C176024A; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:10:52 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:10:48 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6063519676.20021030101048@gailndan.com> To: "Adrien Taylor" Subject: Re: Quoting from the Canary List In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ya gotta watch out for the ghosts in the machine. dan 10/30/2002, 9:17 AM, Adrien Taylor wrote: AT> I KNOW what she meant, and I DO feel sympathy, but I also think its funny. AT> "Sorry to hear that your bird died, it is very heart breaking to lose a bird. I found one of my two year old hens dead this morning. As far as I knew she was not even sick. Sorry I missed your AT> posts about your sick. My brother passed away a week and half ago and deleted all my e-mails." -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:13:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHDFkq010609 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:13:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE276@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:46 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHBk608786 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:46 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A2CE4302DE; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:42 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:11:38 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/29/2002, 5:06 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>From the point of view of the dead person and his/her loved ones it is NM> of course the same. But then I'm not really sure how people "die NM> because there is not a war." Lots of people die outside of war, of NM> course, but I don't think it's because there's no war. How many more Jews, gays, and others of non-Aryan descent would have died if we'd NOT gone to war with Germany? More than one or two. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:13:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHDJkq010612 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:13:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040893A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:50 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9UHBo608805 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:11:50 -0500 Received: (qmail 5055 invoked by uid 417); 30 Oct 2002 17:11:49 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 30 Oct 2002 17:11:49 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:11:47 -0700 Message-ID: <002a01c28038$3bb47000$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:47:28 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MA>I can only guess the Red Devils (Man U.). Bingo! Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:14:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHEGkq010617 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:14:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00408956@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:12:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:12:46 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHCk608934 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:12:46 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A30B4602DE; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:12:43 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:12:39 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <18063630666.20021030101239@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:13 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dan Lester said: >> 10/29/2002, 7:28 PM, Karen Kay wrote: >> >> KK> I managed to find the almost-perfect-flight on Orbitz for about $50 >> KK> less than what I could find on Hotwire. Weird. >> >> I've always found the best deals on Orbitz, except when they >> could be beaten by Southwest, who doesn't play with Orbitz any >> more. KK> Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. Understand that. No airline goes to all the places I need/want to go. And, the careful shopper will find that the SW prices are NOT always the lowest, and can even be the highest. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:15:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHFCkq010648 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:15:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00408976@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:13:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:13:43 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHDg609084 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:13:42 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3431330264; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:13:39 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:13:35 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15663686816.20021030101335@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the dining experience In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030101826.00b4ff28@mail.panax.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030101826.00b4ff28@mail.panax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:23 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> As I lacked any ambition to make dinner last evening, we went down to Mache cwv> Bistro. Michael, the waiter/bartender/maitre d' and I often talk about cwv> the food and its preparation, including ingredients that we like/don't cwv> like. Last night as he served my entree (duck breast) he said: "I'm cwv> sorry, we couldn't find any zucchini, so you'll have to make do with broccoli." He expressed my feeling exactly, had the dinner been served to me. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:16:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHGekq010655 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:16:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040899B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:11 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHFB609318 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:11 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A39BCF0262; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:07 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:15:01 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2463772379.20021030101501@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:29 AM, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: cwv> Seems to me that Alabama is sometimes referred to as the Red Tide; for that cwv> matter, doesn't Cornell's nickname have something to do with "red"? Bama is the Crimson Tide. Don't call them red. And yes, Stanford is the Cardinal (the color) now that they're not the Indians any more. And Nebraska is Big Red. And Oklahoma and many others use red as well. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:17:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHHLkq010659 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:17:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004089AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:52 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHFq609413 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:52 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3C3D50262; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:15:47 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:15:40 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14963811395.20021030101540@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:31 AM, John Williams wrote: >> Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. JW> If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. Remember, they're NOT always the cheapest. I found a much cheaper and better connection from Boise to Chicago last summer. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:17:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHHqkq010668 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:17:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004089B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:16:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:16:24 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHGN609496 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:16:23 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3E21570282; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:16:18 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:16:14 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1163845815.20021030101614@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030153530.D88CD7C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030153530.D88CD7C12@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:35 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> John Williams said: >> Karen Kay wrote: >> > Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. >> >> If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. KK> I'll make sure to ask my sister to move. I thought your sister was in Chicago. Where is she? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:26:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHQ4kq010717 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:26:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00408A79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:24:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:24:36 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHOZ611011 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:24:35 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA03970 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:24:35 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B449038699; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:24:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:24:34 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Business question Message-ID: <20021030172434.GA15635@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since this almost sounds like a guy daring to work outside of multi- trillion-dollar business, and that too with software, please keep this hush-hush. What's the best way for *an individual* to pay somebody to write some code? This is, heh heh, "ironic" because I want to distribute the final code for free, but I just can't get the spare time to program. I need to have proof of paying, and hence ownership. Thanks ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:31:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHVokq010762 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:31:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE45F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:30:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:30:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XhfZ+r7cN2K6p2mec4cDcKWfpzsu0Wae@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHKG610161 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:20:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA012FFBC for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4BB0E7C12; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:20:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <1163845815.20021030101614@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 30, 2002 10:16:14 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:20:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030172015.4BB0E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/30/2002, 8:35 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> John Williams said: > >> Karen Kay wrote: > >> > Southwest doesn't go where I want to go. > >> > >> If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. > > KK> I'll make sure to ask my sister to move. > > I thought your sister was in Chicago. No, my cousin Sally lives in Chicago, but she's always in CA when we go there. > Where is she? Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:32:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHWXkq010768 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:32:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00408B0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:31:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:31:04 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHV3611973 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:31:03 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A74D13F023E; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:30:53 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:30:46 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <264717739.20021030103046@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Business question In-Reply-To: <20021030172434.GA15635@pobox.com> References: <20021030172434.GA15635@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 10:24 AM, Tushar Samant wrote: TS> Since this almost sounds like a guy daring to work outside of multi- TS> trillion-dollar business, and that too with software, please keep this TS> hush-hush. What's the best way for *an individual* to pay somebody to TS> write some code? This is, heh heh, "ironic" because I want to distribute TS> the final code for free, but I just can't get the spare time to program. TS> I need to have proof of paying, and hence ownership. Thanks ... Write a check? How about just writing up a brief contract indicating it is a "work for hire", thus programmer doesn't own. dan -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:37:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHb9kq010793 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:37:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE4D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:35:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3016157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:35:40 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHZc612512 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:35:38 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A865C10244; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:35:33 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:35:29 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17265001066.20021030103529@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030172015.4BB0E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030172015.4BB0E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:40:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHeYkq010815 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:40:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00408BC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:39:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:39:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:92Hh+YIHuA1u79qxFpLTkqMkjPV0d8S5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHT4611595 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:29:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479752FE9A for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1EA187C0E; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:29:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Business question In-Reply-To: <20021030172434.GA15635@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Oct 30, 2002 11:24:34 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:29:04 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030172904.1EA187C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Since this almost sounds like a guy daring to work outside of multi- > trillion-dollar business, and that too with software, please keep this > hush-hush. What's the best way for *an individual* to pay somebody to > write some code? This is, heh heh, "ironic" because I want to distribute > the final code for free, but I just can't get the spare time to program. > I need to have proof of paying, and hence ownership. Thanks ... At minimum, you need a contract specifying that it's work for hire. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:40:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHehkq010819 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:40:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00408BCA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:39:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3016479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:39:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f166.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHdE613186 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:39:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:39:09 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:39:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:39:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2002 17:39:09.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[40508600:01C2803B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Red >MA>I can only guess the Red Devils (Man U.). > >Bingo! > >Red I RULE! So where are you? Are you in India? Or the UK? Or where? I read recently that Man U.'s largest fan base is in Japan... I've never heard "footie" before, BTW. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:41:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHfjkq010829 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:41:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00408C00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:40:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015813 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:40:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:xr//opLokax3j704JpOfAIIrCrd7MEec@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHUG611889 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:30:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E802FF58 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7C30E7C0F; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:30:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the dining experience In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030101826.00b4ff28@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Oct 30, 2002 10:23: 3 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:30:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030173015.7C30E7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > As I lacked any ambition to make dinner last evening, we went down to Mache > Bistro. Michael, the waiter/bartender/maitre d' and I often talk about > the food and its preparation, including ingredients that we like/don't > like. Last night as he served my entree (duck breast) he said: "I'm > sorry, we couldn't find any zucchini, so you'll have to make do with broccoli." He must be a super-taster. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 11:43:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UHhGkq010840 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AE589@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:41:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:41:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:y7fS8nk0dwkmcJ18HaMQlGgFOEoTzaKO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UHVl612038 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:31:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8960A2FFBE for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4F0027C16; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:31:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Business question In-Reply-To: <264717739.20021030103046@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 30, 2002 10:30:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:31:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030173146.4F0027C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/30/2002, 10:24 AM, Tushar Samant wrote: > TS> Since this almost sounds like a guy daring to work outside of multi- > TS> trillion-dollar business, and that too with software, please keep this > TS> hush-hush. What's the best way for *an individual* to pay somebody to > TS> write some code? This is, heh heh, "ironic" because I want to distribute > TS> the final code for free, but I just can't get the spare time to program. > TS> I need to have proof of paying, and hence ownership. Thanks ... > > Write a check? How about just writing up a brief contract indicating > it is a "work for hire", thus programmer doesn't own. Actually, Tushar, I have a contract form you can customize. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 12:25:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UIP9kq011084 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:25:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AEA7D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:23:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:23:40 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UINd620951 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:23:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.231]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:19:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC02341.8F6C1E8D@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:21:53 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > The guy in the office next to me uses henna for highlights. My ex-lover stand-up comic had a joke about his red-headed wife. "No hair, just a red head." alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 12:36:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UIaPkq011150 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040917E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:34:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:34:56 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UIOt621163 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:24:55 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UIOrc23785 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:24:53 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9UIOrRG019005 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:24:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030104056.00a76c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:41:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021030155313.03142470@victoria.nb.no> References: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:58 PM 10/30/2002 +0100, you wrote: >08:01 29.10.2002 -0800 skrev Karen Kay: > >Bethany K. Dumas said: > >> If you went to a restaurant for dinner, would you expect that the owners' > >> pets would be running around the room? Would that be okay? > > > >I've been to bookstores like that. > >I was at a very good restaurant like that at our (small - 8 rooms) hotel >in Speracedes wher we stayed three nights before we moved into the house >we borrowed. The dog was nice and just wished to be petted, he was not >after the food. > > > >Espen I'd even put up with a cat to stay there. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 12:49:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UInkkq011248 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:49:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004092FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:48:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3022593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:48:17 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.117]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UImH625945 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:48:17 -0500 Received: from EAGLE72 ([128.91.48.72]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.xx 201-253-122-126-xxx-20020920) with ESMTP id <20021030184811.BEC26460.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@EAGLE72> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:48:11 +0000 Message-ID: <006701c28044$e6450690$48305b80@EAGLE72> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: Subject: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:48:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Folks, My email is down until tomorrow morning. I am reading words-l from this account. alec plotkina@att.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:23:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJN8kq011475 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:23:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF13E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:21:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:21:38 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJLb631624 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:21:37 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA09140 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:21:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3933138699; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:21:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:21:35 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Business question Message-ID: <20021030192135.GA3697@pobox.com> References: <20021030172434.GA15635@pobox.com> <264717739.20021030103046@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <264717739.20021030103046@gailndan.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:30:46AM -0700, Dan Lester wrote: > 10/30/2002, 10:24 AM, Tushar Samant wrote: > > TS> Since this almost sounds like a guy daring to work outside of multi- > TS> trillion-dollar business, and that too with software, please keep this > TS> hush-hush. What's the best way for *an individual* to pay somebody to > TS> write some code? This is, heh heh, "ironic" because I want to distribute > TS> the final code for free, but I just can't get the spare time to program. > TS> I need to have proof of paying, and hence ownership. Thanks ... > > Write a check? How about just writing up a brief contract indicating > it is a "work for hire", thus programmer doesn't own. Thank you, Dan. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:23:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJNqkq011480 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:23:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF14E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:22:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:22:22 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJMM631747 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:22:22 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA09796 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:22:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A48B938699; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:22:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:22:21 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Business question Message-ID: <20021030192221.GB3697@pobox.com> References: <264717739.20021030103046@gailndan.com> <20021030173146.4F0027C16@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021030173146.4F0027C16@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:31:46AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Dan Lester said: > > 10/30/2002, 10:24 AM, Tushar Samant wrote: > > TS> Since this almost sounds like a guy daring to work outside of multi- > > TS> trillion-dollar business, and that too with software, please keep this > > TS> hush-hush. What's the best way for *an individual* to pay somebody to > > TS> write some code? This is, heh heh, "ironic" because I want to distribute > > TS> the final code for free, but I just can't get the spare time to program. > > TS> I need to have proof of paying, and hence ownership. Thanks ... > > > > Write a check? How about just writing up a brief contract indicating > > it is a "work for hire", thus programmer doesn't own. > > Actually, Tushar, I have a contract form you can customize. Hokae, send it, or do I have to pay you first? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:26:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJQQkq011495 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:26:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF1B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:24:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:24:57 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJOu632192 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:24:57 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA11911 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:24:55 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 93D5C38699; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:24:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:24:55 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu Message-ID: <20021030192455.GC3697@pobox.com> References: <006701c28044$e6450690$48305b80@EAGLE72> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006701c28044$e6450690$48305b80@EAGLE72> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:48:12PM -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > Folks, > > My email is down until tomorrow morning. I am reading words-l from this > account. Nobody wanted to read this diary entry. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:26:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJQnkq011500 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:26:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF1BD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:25:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:25:19 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:L6gKICtgfQW2XyOxX5cB1hy7LeCxvREW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJFI630712 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:15:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121D730297 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A925B7C12; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:15:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <17265001066.20021030103529@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 30, 2002 10:35:29 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:15:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030191517.A925B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:30:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJUYkq011561 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:30:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00409777@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:29:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:29:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:yZhGyBjIuWYB/5rKTybR58glScMucFRb@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJJ4631176 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:19:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B65302B3 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 30F537C10; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:19:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: A funny To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:19:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030191903.30F537C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You need the sound turned on. http://www.rathergood.com/independent_woman/ Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:32:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJWZkq011578 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:32:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF2B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:31:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:31:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ldDkJahmFE3Cc8dPfJhW3KZxHEJ9MdDg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJL6631501 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:21:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBED302C5 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5DA9C7C15; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:21:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Hey, Rita! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:21:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030192105.5DA9C7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kohl's has good sales. I bought a new vacuum cleaner for 35% off--it comes with a $30 rebate, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:37:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJbBkq011628 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:37:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00409842@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:35:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:35:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YnyJver50ipWjKuWkxPnD4+7hovkxM3C@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJPg632283 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:25:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8644302DF for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A4147C12; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Business question In-Reply-To: <20021030192221.GB3697@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Oct 30, 2002 1:22:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030192313.8A4147C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:31:46AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Dan Lester said: > > > 10/30/2002, 10:24 AM, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > TS> Since this almost sounds like a guy daring to work outside of multi- > > > TS> trillion-dollar business, and that too with software, please keep this > > > TS> hush-hush. What's the best way for *an individual* to pay somebody to > > > TS> write some code? This is, heh heh, "ironic" because I want to distribute > > > TS> the final code for free, but I just can't get the spare time to program. > > > TS> I need to have proof of paying, and hence ownership. Thanks ... > > > > > > Write a check? How about just writing up a brief contract indicating > > > it is a "work for hire", thus programmer doesn't own. > > > > Actually, Tushar, I have a contract form you can customize. > > Hokae, send it, or do I have to pay you first? I'll extract payment in December. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:38:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJckkq011655 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF362@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:37:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:37:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+oTAH1unVPJWoVtbdW4WOSnd4nfBsNmk@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJRG632551 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:27:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0C1302D5 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4CE567C0C; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030191517.A925B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Oct 30, 2002 11:15:17 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:27:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030192702.4CE567C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay said: > Dan Lester said: > > 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and > > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they > > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! ^hours My sibs are flying to Chicago because they are spending Christmas elsewhere; I'm spending it in Dorr. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:45:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJjWkq011782 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:45:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040992B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:44:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:44:02 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJY1601500 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:34:01 -0500 Received: from EAGLE72 ([128.91.48.72]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.xx 201-253-122-126-xxx-20020920) with ESMTP id <20021030193340.BPGN28512.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@EAGLE72> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:33:40 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2804b$49bf1fc0$48305b80@EAGLE72> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <006701c28044$e6450690$48305b80@EAGLE72> <20021030192455.GC3697@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:33:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tushar Samant" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:48:12PM -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > Folks, > > > > My email is down until tomorrow morning. I am reading words-l from this > > account. > > Nobody wanted to read this diary entry. Thanks. I had a mental bet with myself on how it would take for a smart-ass comment. Thank you my brother! alec plotkina@att.net From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:46:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJk2kq011787 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:46:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040993A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:44:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:44:32 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJiW603409 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:44:32 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.231]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:44:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0372D.5FD1634F@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:46:53 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: [Fwd: communities against Patriot Act restrictions] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Victory in Takoma Park! Last night, Takoma Park, Maryland, became the latest community to say that its citizens will not accept the so-called USA PATRIOT Act and other intrusive new domestic spying and harassment laws pushed by the Bush Administration. Some 11 communities have already taken such action and dozens more are considering similar initiatives. The Takoma Park resolution, which was adopted unanimously, calls for the repeal of all federal and state legislation that violates fundamental rights and liberties and specifically instructs local law enforcement to "refrain from participating in enforcement of federal immigration laws." It also instructs state and federal officials to provide details on the extent of electronic surveillance and the infiltration of political and religious activities in Takoma Park. As part of its Safe and Free Campaign, the ACLU is joining this grassroots movement to pass local resolutions protesting the new federal laws and reasserting constitutional rights. You can make a difference: support the passage of a resolution in your community! To find out how to get more involved, send an email to: field@dcaclu.org. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:46:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJkYkq011792 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:46:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00409945@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:45:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:45:04 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJj3603523 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:45:04 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A6B98202EC; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:44:57 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:44:53 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3972765200.20021030124453@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030191517.A925B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030191517.A925B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 12:15 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dan Lester said: >> 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is >> KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and >> KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they >> KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) >> >> So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. KK> No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County KK> airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! Because it sounded like, from the "Chicago is conveniently located for all 7 of us" that you'd be meeting in Chicago. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:48:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJmwkq011807 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:48:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00409988@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:47:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:47:28 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJlS603878 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:47:28 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A74C4A0338; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:47:24 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:47:20 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4672911511.20021030124720@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Fwd: communities against Patriot Act restrictions] In-Reply-To: <3DC0372D.5FD1634F@valstar.net> References: <3DC0372D.5FD1634F@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bet that'll be as useful and successful as the actions in places like The Free State of Berkeley. Obviously, since they don't want immigration laws enforced, they don't live in an agricultural belt. Or else they want to keep all their paid-under-the-table illegal household help. 10/30/2002, 12:46 PM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Victory in Takoma Park! ac> Last night, Takoma Park, Maryland, became the latest community to say ac> that ac> its citizens will not accept the so-called USA PATRIOT Act and other ac> intrusive new domestic spying and harassment laws pushed by the Bush ac> Administration. Some 11 communities have already taken such action and ac> dozens more are considering similar initiatives. ac> The Takoma Park resolution, which was adopted unanimously, calls for the ac> repeal of all federal and state legislation that violates fundamental ac> rights and liberties and specifically instructs local law enforcement to ac> "refrain from participating in enforcement of federal immigration laws." ac> It ac> also instructs state and federal officials to provide details on the ac> extent ac> of electronic surveillance and the infiltration of political and ac> religious ac> activities in Takoma Park. ac> As part of its Safe and Free Campaign, the ACLU is joining this ac> grassroots ac> movement to pass local resolutions protesting the new federal laws and ac> reasserting constitutional rights. You can make a difference: support ac> the ac> passage of a resolution in your community! To find out how to get more ac> involved, send an email to: field@dcaclu.org. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:51:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJpCkq011835 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:51:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF4BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:49:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:49:42 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJng604118 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:49:42 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19461 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 02 14:48:16 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 02 14:48:04 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:48:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: A funny Message-ID: <3DBFF122.3123.1822BE3@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021030191903.30F537C10@yellow.rahul.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The rest of the rathergood.com animations are pretty funny as well BrP > You need the sound turned on. > > http://www.rathergood.com/independent_woman/ > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:51:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJpFkq011838 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:51:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF4BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:49:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:49:45 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJdj602525 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:39:45 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJdhc23438 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:39:43 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9UJdiRG016663 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:39:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030115542.00a5fb50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:56:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030191517.A925B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <17265001066.20021030103529@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:15 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Dan Lester said: > > 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and > > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they > > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > >No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County >airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! To see Silverman and Tushar. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:52:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJqckq011846 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:52:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004099F0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:51:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:51:08 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJf8602740 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:41:08 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJf6c26408 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:41:06 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9UJf6RG023405 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:41:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030115710.00a4ed90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:57:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: A funny In-Reply-To: <20021030191903.30F537C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:19 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: >You need the sound turned on. > >http://www.rathergood.com/independent_woman/ > >Karen What do you find funny about it? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:58:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UJwnkq011877 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:58:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00409AA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:57:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:57:19 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Ph8uaAPfLwcfiY3wLgnmg9/fw5jJVsgd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJlJ603872 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:47:19 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0642FF07 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 33DF77C0E; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu In-Reply-To: <001d01c2804b$49bf1fc0$48305b80@EAGLE72> from "Alec D. Plotkin" at "Oct 30, 2002 2:33:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:47:18 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030194718.33DF77C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alec D. Plotkin said: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tushar Samant" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:48:12PM -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > > > My email is down until tomorrow morning. I am reading words-l from this > > > account. > > > > Nobody wanted to read this diary entry. > > Thanks. I had a mental bet with myself on how it would take for a smart-ass > comment. Thank you my brother! Did you win? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:00:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UK0Zkq011921 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:00:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF5D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:59:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:59:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:il36Iu6WiFeOGDLjY3BKRYbsQxwGXVBh@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJn4604060 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:49:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB872FF07 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0210C7C0E; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3972765200.20021030124453@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 30, 2002 12:44:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:49:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030194903.0210C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/30/2002, 12:15 PM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> Dan Lester said: > >> 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > >> KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > >> KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and > >> KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they > >> KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > >> > >> So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > KK> No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > KK> airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! > > Because it sounded like, from the "Chicago is conveniently located for all > 7 of us" that you'd be meeting in Chicago. We are. On the 26th. I'm arriving in Dorr on the 23rd, leaving on the 28th. Anything else you need to know? I don't know whether I'm getting any meals or not. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:04:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UK4Ikq011941 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:04:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF667@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:02:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:02:48 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UK2k606903 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:02:48 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AADE5A02E4; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:02:38 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:02:34 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5173825595.20021030130234@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030194903.0210C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030194903.0210C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 12:49 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> We are. On the 26th. I'm arriving in Dorr on the 23rd, leaving on the KK> 28th. Anything else you need to know? I don't know whether I'm getting KK> any meals or not. Well, hope you don't starve those days. You can always do the bread, butter and sugar. dan -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:07:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UK7Xkq011950 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:07:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00409BA9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:06:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:05:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8k8fuSUeP7mz4eN0rkb72Bxpmj+9JwEx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UJtv605564 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:55:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E172FF07 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C7CD7C11; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:54:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030115542.00a5fb50@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Oct 30, 2002 11:56: 3 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:54:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030195448.8C7CD7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At 11:15 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Dan Lester said: > > > 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > > > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and > > > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they > > > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > > > > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > > >No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > >airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! > > To see Silverman and Tushar. One of my brothers is driving us to Chicago on the 26th, and I will meet up with the Tush-man on either the 26th or the 27th. I'm also meeting up with Homemaker J from the meno newsgroup. No plans to see Silverman. We're going to see "Sunday in the Park with George" the evening of the 26th. The 27th, we'll go for breakfast, do something educational, have lunch, and split up. We will either drive back with my brother (though it will be crowded) or train it back. I return on the 27th. Alec, I tried to spare you this, really, I did. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:12:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKCGkq011973 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:12:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF79E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:10:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:10:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:kE3tminACNTtMet4Kzs9dIVruf+jbdP+@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UK0j606329 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:00:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764753016B for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 05E467C16; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: A funny In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030115710.00a4ed90@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Oct 30, 2002 11:57:24 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030200006.05E467C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At 11:19 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >You need the sound turned on. > > > >http://www.rathergood.com/independent_woman/ > > > >Karen > > > What do you find funny about it? Incongruity. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:14:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKEkkq011989 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:14:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00409CB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:13:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3030055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:13:16 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKDG609165 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:13:16 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.231]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:13:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC03DE5.8CA24681@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:15:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> <153126411.20021030071735@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > Lard and flour sounds like pie crust to me. Well, it was not pie crust. It was dumplings, soft-ish. Maybe some egg as well? Wish Gram had left a recipe book, but all of her recipes were in her head. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:15:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKFdkq012018 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:15:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF851@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:14:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:14:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:x8vF2NSfLLMd1pKx7oT3O/7MqpdShcm7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UK48607182 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:04:08 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567193003E for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 267647C0C; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:04:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5173825595.20021030130234@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 30, 2002 1: 2:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:04:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030200408.267647C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/30/2002, 12:49 PM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> We are. On the 26th. I'm arriving in Dorr on the 23rd, leaving on the > KK> 28th. Anything else you need to know? I don't know whether I'm getting > KK> any meals or not. > > Well, hope you don't starve those days. You can always do the > bread, butter and sugar. As Ligniere would say, I am in no danger of starving. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:20:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKK0kq012041 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:20:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AF91F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:18:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3030805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:18:30 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKIU610442 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:18:30 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.231]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:18:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC03F23.828D6034@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:20:51 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030194903.0210C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <5173825595.20021030130234@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > Well, hope you don't starve those days. You can always do the > bread, butter and sugar. I may do that. Too much Ensure Plus leads to diarrhea. Must revert to once a day for that. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:23:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKNDkq012069 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:23:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00409E1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:21:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3031139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:21:43 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKLh611023 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:21:43 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.231]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:21:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC03FE5.FE9081F3@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:24:05 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: spies R Us Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Secret radar technology research that will allow the biggest-ever extension of 'Big Brother'-style surveillance in the UK is being funded by the Government. The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and individuals 'in real time' almost anywhere in Britain. -- Can the US be far behind? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:35:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKZhkq012139 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:35:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00409FB9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:34:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3032182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:34:12 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKYC613042 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:34:12 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA23262 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:34:12 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E447738699; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:34:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:34:11 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind Message-ID: <20021030203411.GA17610@pobox.com> References: <17265001066.20021030103529@gailndan.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20021030115542.00a5fb50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030115542.00a5fb50@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:56:03AM -0800, Betty Clark wrote: > At 11:15 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Dan Lester said: > >> So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > > >No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > >airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! > > To see Silverman and Tushar. Please keep me out of your Maynorisms, thanks. Next thing you will be saying you have "needed" me. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:37:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKbnkq012152 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:37:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00409FF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:36:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3032388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:36:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKaI613466 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:36:18 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA24601 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:36:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3277E38699; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:36:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:36:18 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu Message-ID: <20021030203618.GB17610@pobox.com> References: <006701c28044$e6450690$48305b80@EAGLE72> <20021030192455.GC3697@pobox.com> <001d01c2804b$49bf1fc0$48305b80@EAGLE72> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001d01c2804b$49bf1fc0$48305b80@EAGLE72> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 02:33:56PM -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > > My email is down until tomorrow morning. I am reading words-l from this > > > account. > > > > Nobody wanted to read this diary entry. > > Thanks. I had a mental bet with myself Too much info ... > on how it would take for a smart-ass comment. Thank you my brother! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:37:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKbtkq012155 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040AFB3A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:36:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3032395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:36:25 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKaP613477 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:36:25 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust229.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.231]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:36:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC04354.B16A54B8@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:38:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Stone Baby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This will gross you out. "Woman carried 'stone baby' in her body -- for 46 years" http://www.canada.com/edmonton/edmontonjournal/story.asp?id=C4042C74-E785-4BFB-A178-6EA073C1D0FD -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:52:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKqjkq012272 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:52:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040A206@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:51:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3032782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:51:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4h5+G5M1sWw4Ko5l8b9htbFa2p+lf0Tq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKfF614262 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:41:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4BEF3006F for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 953657C10; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:41:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Stone Baby In-Reply-To: <3DC04354.B16A54B8@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 30, 2002 3:38:44 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:41:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030204114.953657C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > This will gross you out. OW! How could it be full term as an ectopic pregnancy?!!!! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:54:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKswkq012297 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:54:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040A251@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:53:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033938 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:53:27 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKrR616161 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:53:27 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24140 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:53:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 02 15:53:26 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 30 Oct 02 15:53:14 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:53:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: The perfect gift. Message-ID: <3DC00060.27391.1BDB8A8@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC04354.B16A54B8@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The holidays are coming. Anyone who has Natalie on their gift giving list might want to consider the winner of this year's Ig Noble Peace Prize Award - the Bow-Lingual. http://www.takaratoys.co.jp/bowlingual/index.html a story about it, in case you don't read Japanese: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2285509.stm BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 14:59:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UKxikq012337 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:59:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040A2F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:58:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:58:13 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKmD615413 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:48:13 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UKmBc19567 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:48:11 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9UKmCRG029034 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:48:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030130353.00a52ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:04:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021030195448.8C7CD7C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030115542.00a5fb50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:54 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Betty Clark said: > > At 11:15 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >Dan Lester said: > > > > 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > > > > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from > FL, and > > > > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. > (Usually they > > > > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > > > > > > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > > > > >No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > > >airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! > > > > To see Silverman and Tushar. > >One of my brothers is driving us to Chicago on the 26th, and I will >meet up with the Tush-man on either the 26th or the 27th. I'm also >meeting up with Homemaker J from the meno newsgroup. No plans to see >Silverman. We're going to see "Sunday in the Park with George" the >evening of the 26th. The 27th, we'll go for breakfast, do something >educational, have lunch, and split up. We will either drive back with >my brother (though it will be crowded) or train it back. I return on >the 27th. > >Alec, I tried to spare you this, really, I did. No need to apologize. It's WIGTHTM. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 15:16:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9ULGmkq012517 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:16:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040A556@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:15:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3034822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:15:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jCmd8RBgPhWCE3BqD5ZzkBtrxqvJjXuW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UL5H618065 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:05:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05B830080 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B4F257C0A; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:05:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030130353.00a52ab0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Oct 30, 2002 1: 4:30 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:05:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030210516.B4F257C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At 11:54 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Betty Clark said: > > > At 11:15 AM 10/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > > >Dan Lester said: > > > > > 10/30/2002, 10:20 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > > > > > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from > > FL, and > > > > > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. > > (Usually they > > > > > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > > > > > > > > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > > > > > > >No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > > > >airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! > > > > > > To see Silverman and Tushar. > > > >One of my brothers is driving us to Chicago on the 26th, and I will > >meet up with the Tush-man on either the 26th or the 27th. I'm also > >meeting up with Homemaker J from the meno newsgroup. No plans to see > >Silverman. We're going to see "Sunday in the Park with George" the > >evening of the 26th. The 27th, we'll go for breakfast, do something > >educational, have lunch, and split up. We will either drive back with > >my brother (though it will be crowded) or train it back. I return on > >the 27th. > > > >Alec, I tried to spare you this, really, I did. > > No need to apologize. It's WIGTHTM. I hope--from your lips to God's ear. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 15:21:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9ULLGkq012563 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:21:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040A5F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:19:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3035146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:19:46 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.114]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UL9k618802 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:09:46 -0500 Received: from EAGLE72 ([128.91.48.72]) by mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.13 201-253-122-126-113-20020917) with ESMTP id <20021030210940.BQLZ16349.mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net@EAGLE72> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:09:40 +0000 Message-ID: <001601c28058$a99fba50$48305b80@EAGLE72> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021030194718.33DF77C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: .. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:09:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu > Alec D. Plotkin said: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tushar Samant" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:24 PM > > Subject: Re: My email at plotkina@isc.upenn.edu > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 01:48:12PM -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > My email is down until tomorrow morning. I am reading words-l from this > > > > account. > > > > > > Nobody wanted to read this diary entry. > > > > Thanks. I had a mental bet with myself on how it would take for a smart-ass > > comment. Thank you my brother! > > Did you win? > > Karen Of course! alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:19:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMJIkq013125 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:19:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B093F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:17:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:17:47 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMHl600828 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:17:47 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AA861C702A2; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:17:42 EST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:17:35 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1281926744.20021030151735@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC03DE5.8CA24681@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> <153126411.20021030071735@gailndan.com> <3DC03DE5.8CA24681@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 1:15 PM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Dan Lester wrote: >> Lard and flour sounds like pie crust to me. ac> Well, it was not pie crust. It was dumplings, soft-ish. Maybe some egg ac> as well? Wish Gram had left a recipe book, but all of her recipes were ac> in her head. Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other ethnic cooking. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:33:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMXXkq013201 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:33:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040AECF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:32:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:32:02 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMW2602617 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:32:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030223341.UXCA3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:33:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC05DDB.DE0C7B68@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:31:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Java etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm sure y'all know this already, but here's the answer from the NS people. (I found the script not because I remembered that url but because I suddenly remembered that I had never removed it from the webpage I tried it on.) > Hello Natalie, > > I consulted with our developers on this javascript you provided and they were able to determine why it > does not work in Netscape 6 or 7. > First, document.all is a Microsoft JScript proprietary feature which was not adopted in the W3C DOM > (World Wide Web Consortium - Document Object Model). > Secondly, document.layers was a Netscape Navigator 4 proprietary feature which was also not > adopted in the W3C DOM (World Wide Web Consortium - Document Object Model). > > Netscape 6 and 7 uses the Gecko rendering engine, which is very W3C compliant and therefore does > not support some proprietary javascript features, such as the features mentioned above. > > For more information and details about how Netscape 6/7 complies with the web standard W3C, > please refer to this Netscape page: > http://wp.netscape.com/browsers/future/standards.html > > I also found these references pages which might be of interest to you: > http://www.stopbadtherapy.com/standards.shtml > http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:NpUB8Us8lLEC:www.metalusions.com/backstage/articles/8/+document.all&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 > > Please let me know if I was able to answer your questions and address your concerns. Thanks again for > contacting Netscape! > If you have further questions, please feel free to contact me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:35:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMZgkq013213 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:35:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040AF0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:34:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:34:11 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMYB602850 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:34:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030223550.UZNO3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:35:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC05E5C.8E94718F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:34:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >If Southern hospitality means evicting a dog from his own home, then I > >am against it. I will happily do things that I've heard some people say > > No one has suggested that. Nor will I lock him in a closet or any other such place. How would I feel if he invited some of his friends over and locked me up in a back room? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:35:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMZikq013216 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:35:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0AA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:34:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:34:13 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMYD602857 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:34:13 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4TFXB01.G48 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:31:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC05F6D.2EFF87A0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:38:37 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Fwd: communities against Patriot Act restrictions] References: <3DC0372D.5FD1634F@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Victory in Takoma Park! > > Last night, Takoma Park, Maryland, became the latest community to say > that > its citizens will not accept the so-called USA PATRIOT Act and other > intrusive new domestic spying and harassment laws pushed by the Bush > Administration. Some 11 communities have already taken such action and > dozens more are considering similar initiatives. How moving. I bet they're a nuclear-free zone as well. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:37:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMb7kq013221 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:37:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040AF2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMZa603034 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:35:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030223715.VBER3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC05EB2.536951AF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:35:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> Being allergic to dogs doesn't mean you don't like them. > > > >I know. But Bethany was talking about not liking dogs. "Don't like" > >was her terminology. > > Context, please. > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > I thought you were harsh when you suggested that if guests don't like dogs > > they can just leave. What happend to southern hospitality? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:41:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMfAkq013258 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:41:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040AF87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:39:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:39:35 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMdZ603762 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:39:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030224114.VFJD3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC05FA0.53C781C1@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:39:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021030155313.03142470@victoria.nb.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > I was at a very good restaurant like that at our (small - 8 rooms) hotel in Speracedes wher we stayed three nights before we moved into the house we borrowed. The dog was nice and just wished to be petted, he was not after the food. One of my favorite hotel dogs was a boxer named Brutus. I can't remember where that was. It was sometime in the past few years. He lay in the dining room during meal times and in the small lobby at other times. Wherever people were more likely to be at a certain time, so was Brutus. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:46:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMkhkq013306 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:46:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040AFFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:45:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:45:12 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMjC604668 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:45:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030224651.VLTM3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC060F1.31F5BAC2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:45:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > > If you were in the USA I'd guess Nebraska, but since you're not, I'm > clueless. I didn't interpret his "footie" to mean US football. I thought he was talking about the football played in the rest of the world. Isn't there a team somewhere in England named the Reds? Probably other places also, though. I'm trying to remember now what the color name is in New Zealand football -- something like the Blacks. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:47:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMlVkq013311 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:47:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B011@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMa0603121 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:36:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9UMZxVO008588 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:35:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:35:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC05E5C.8E94718F@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> No one has suggested that. > >Nor will I lock him in a closet or any other such place. How would I >feel if he invited some of his friends over and locked me up in a back >room? Nor has anyone suggested that. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:47:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMlXkq013314 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:47:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0BB9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:01 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMk1604809 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030224740.VMRV3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:47:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC06123.92899127@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:45:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <20021030031513.B54F57C10@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBFC05C.9528B7A1@maynor.net> <3DBFFA47.C7487DF@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > I recently saw a cartoon of a bunch of dogs milling around sniffing, > and stuck to each one's butt was one of those convention nametags, "Hello - > I'm Scruff", or whatever. > Hmmmm. Maybe you had to have been there. Nahh. I laughed out loud. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:48:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMmEkq013320 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:48:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0BBE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:46:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMah603250 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:36:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9UMagVO009148 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:36:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:36:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC05EB2.536951AF@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Context, please. > >> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> >> > I thought you were harsh when you suggested that if guests don't like dogs >> > they can just leave. What happend to southern hospitality? Yes - please note who did the suggesting. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:48:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMmskq013325 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:48:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B032@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:47:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:47:22 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMlM605021 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:47:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030224901.VNZA3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:49:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:47:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >R> I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. > > Seems to me that Alabama is sometimes referred to as the Red Tide; for that > matter, doesn't Cornell's nickname have something to do with "red"? Seems to me that it would be mightily odd for somebody in another country to know or care anything about US fb. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:49:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMnekq013332 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:49:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0BE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:48:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:48:09 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMm9605175 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:48:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030224948.VOSS3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC061A2.4F3D48AD@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:48:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. I am certainly glad you didn't make that rule until post-GoatRoast! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:53:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMqxkq013359 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:53:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0C2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:51:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:51:28 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMpS605593 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:51:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.179]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030225307.VSEY3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:53:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:51:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. > >JMW > > Not coming to Acadiafest ?? Southwest goes to Boston, doesn't it? After I pick up Alyce and Spyke in Germantown, I could pick up JMW in Boston, and then we'd pick up B&L in Portland. This is going to be fun! Maybe I should bring Spencer. I'm visualizing this group inside my Echo. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 16:59:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UMx3kq013386 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:59:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040B0EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:57:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:57:32 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UMvW606294 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:57:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.85]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030225911.VZJN3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:59:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:57:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > How many more Jews, gays, and others of non-Aryan descent would have > died if we'd NOT gone to war with Germany? More than one or two. We'll never know the answer to that question. Perhaps none. But you seem to be suggesting that that's why we went to war with Germany. Is it? If so, why did we wait so long? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:12:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNCTkq013468 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:12:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0E30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:10:58 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNAw608126 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:10:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.224]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030231237.BGAM27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:12:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC066F8.C7B99693@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:10:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <002a01c28038$3bb47000$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Red wrote: > > MA>I can only guess the Red Devils (Man U.). > > Bingo! I was at least in the right country! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:13:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNDjkq013472 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:13:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B226@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:12:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:12:14 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNCE608236 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:12:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.224]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030231353.BGZD27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC06747.F32D38BB@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:12:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030172015.4BB0E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > No, my cousin Sally lives in Chicago, but she's always in CA when we > go there. Why? Is she like BrP? A Canadian lover? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:18:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNIjkq013515 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:18:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0EA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:17:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:17:14 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNHE608796 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:17:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.224]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030231850.BLIV27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:18:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC06870.7D15B640@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:17:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021030104056.00a76c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > > > > > >Espen > > I'd even put up with a cat to stay there. You inspired me to look, and I was fascinated to find what appears to be one of Spencer's little couch-and-chair-cover things suspended from the wall behind the bed. I couldn't see the picture clearly enough to tell whether those were pawprint decorations, but the colors, size, etc. looked right. I'm talking about the picture beside the "Zimmerausstattung" blurb. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:21:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNLOkq013528 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:21:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B29F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:19:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:19:53 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNJr609152 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:19:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.224]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030232132.BNYF27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:21:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC06912.DD5352D@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:19:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030191517.A925B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and > > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they > > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! Because you said "Chicago is conveniently located for all 7 of us." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:23:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNN3kq013536 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:23:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0F0B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:21:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:21:32 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNLV609462 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:21:31 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-213.panax.com [63.163.42.213]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNLTt15000 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:21:30 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182054.009f9830@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:21:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3DC060F1.31F5BAC2@maynor.net> References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I didn't interpret his "footie" to mean US football. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:24:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNOLkq013541 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:24:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0F1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:22:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNMn609624 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:22:49 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-213.panax.com [63.163.42.213]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNMlt15316 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:22:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:22:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Southwest goes to Boston, doesn't it? After I pick up Alyce and Spyke >in Germantown, I could pick up JMW in Boston, and then we'd pick up B&L >in Portland. This is going to be fun! Maybe I should bring Spencer. >I'm visualizing this group inside my Echo. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I can advise on a B&B that accepts dogs. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:25:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNPJkq013547 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:25:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B2FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Z1xCwnwEYQTDydxGh3Y1iWqPWyXR1Yxe@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNDm608435 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:13:48 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0307A2FD67 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C484A7C12; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:13:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC06747.F32D38BB@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 30, 2002 5:12: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:13:47 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030231347.C484A7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > No, my cousin Sally lives in Chicago, but she's always in CA when we > > go there. > > Why? Is she like BrP? Well, she's a lesbian. > A Canadian lover? LOL. No. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:25:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNPUkq013550 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:25:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040B2FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNNr609792 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:53 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-213.panax.com [63.163.42.213]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNNqt15559 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:52 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182324.009f60c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <1281926744.20021030151735@gailndan.com> References: <3DC03DE5.8CA24681@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> <153126411.20021030071735@gailndan.com> <3DC03DE5.8CA24681@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings >or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other >ethnic cooking. The German name is spaetzle. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:26:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNQpkq013558 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:26:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040B318@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:25:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:25:19 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNPJ610011 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:25:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.224]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030232658.BTAO27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:26:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC06A59.32035C10@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:25:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030194903.0210C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <5173825595.20021030130234@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > KK> 28th. Anything else you need to know? I don't know whether I'm getting > KK> any meals or not. > > Well, hope you don't starve those days. You can always do the > bread, butter and sugar. That sounds like a messy combination to carry on a plane. How about a Balance Bar? Actually, I find that nabs do fine. They're easily stuck into a purse, they aren't illegal on planes, and they're there if you aren't fed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:32:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNWOkq013608 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:32:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B0F97@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:30:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:30:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HlyApNZbznuEuOHtTf/7tZH/T1Z97g8d@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNKr609358 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:20:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A642FDE5 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D826B7C0C; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:20:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC06912.DD5352D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 30, 2002 5:19:46 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:20:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030232052.D826B7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > KK> Dorr, MI. I have another sister in Rock Island IL. Chicago is > > > KK> conveniently located for all 7 of us. One sister flies in from FL, and > > > KK> this year, my twin brothers are both flying in from DC. (Usually they > > > KK> drive in from Detroit and have Christmas with my sister in Dorr.) > > > > > > So you ARE flying to Chicago? SWAir certainly flies there. > > > > No, I'm flying to Grand Rapids. Dorr is 25 min. from the Kent County > > airport and 3.5 from Chicago. Why would I fly to Chicago?! > > Because you said "Chicago is conveniently located for all 7 of us." It is. That doesn't mean that we need to fly there. Usually only my sister from FL flies there. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:37:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNbKkq013626 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:37:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B3B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:35:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:35:48 -0500 Received: from libmail.syr.edu (libmail.syr.edu [128.230.235.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNZm611083 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:35:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200210302335.g9UNZm611083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:31:58 -0500 From: prbarfoo To: English Language Discussion Group X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00003138 Subject: RE: Never mind Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.51 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Natalie Maynor said: >> Karen Kay wrote: >> > No, my cousin Sally lives in Chicago, but she's always in CA when we >> > go there. >> >> Why? Is she like BrP? > >Well, she's a lesbian. I'm not a lesbian - at least not in this life. > >> A Canadian lover? > >LOL. No. > >Karen hmm I read CA as California BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:38:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNcQkq013632 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:38:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B3C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:36:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:36:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:urGgExDvigYqGtWH+cqnnKEiWRJMjTeM@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNQr610182 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:26:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743262FDFE for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4B27F7C0C; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:26:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182324.009f60c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 30, 2002 6:23:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:26:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030232653.4B27F7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings > >or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other > >ethnic cooking. > > The German name is spaetzle. Those aren't dumplings. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:39:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNdWkq013638 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:39:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B3D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:38:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048644 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:38:01 -0500 Received: from libmail.syr.edu (libmail.syr.edu [128.230.235.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNc1611333 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:38:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200210302338.g9UNc1611333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:34:11 -0500 From: prbarfoo To: English Language Discussion Group X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00003138 Subject: RE: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.51 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. > > > --bonniev You can picture him as a woman all you want, but does that make him a woman? BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:39:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNdbkq013641 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:39:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B3D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:38:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3048193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:38:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JOvldmYJ3zcQrrilkhweAsuVDmeFqJt0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNS4610293 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:28:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BB62FDFE for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 07E297C0C; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC06A59.32035C10@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 30, 2002 5:25:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021030232803.07E297C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > That sounds like a messy combination to carry on a plane. How about a > Balance Bar? Actually, I find that nabs do fine. They're easily stuck > into a purse, they aren't illegal on planes, and they're there if you > aren't fed. I'll make food to take with me if I'm not going to get fed. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:45:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNjYkq013702 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:45:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B105F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:44:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:43:59 -0500 Received: from libmail.syr.edu (libmail.syr.edu [128.230.235.211]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNhw612180 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:43:58 -0500 Message-Id: <200210302343.g9UNhw612180@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:40:09 -0500 From: prbarfoo To: English Language Discussion Group X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00003138 Subject: RE: Hamburger and Spencer Reports Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.51 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings >>or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other >>ethnic cooking. > >The German name is spaetzle. > > > --bonniev Is this still the lard thread? I've made spaetzel many times and never used lard or any lard substitute as an ingredient. Perhaps the dumplings that are ubiquitous in Czech cuisine (I can't remember what they call them) are made with lard. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:55:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNtpkq013759 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:55:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B1121@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:19 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNsJ613627 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.44]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030235558.CUUZ27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC07124.7AE9A864@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:54:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The perfect gift. References: <3DC00060.27391.1BDB8A8@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > The holidays are coming. Anyone who has Natalie on their gift giving list might want > to consider the winner of this year's Ig Noble Peace Prize Award - the Bow-Lingual. I don't need an interpreter to tell me what Spencer is telling me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:57:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNv7kq013769 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B113B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:55:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:55:31 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNtV613776 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:55:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.44]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030235710.CWCF27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0716C.B631B90E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:55:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Nor will I lock him in a closet or any other such place. How would I > >feel if he invited some of his friends over and locked me up in a back > >room? > > Nor has anyone suggested that. Then I don't know what you've been recommending. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:59:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNx2kq013780 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:59:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B1161@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:57:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:57:31 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNvU614194 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:57:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.44]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021030235909.CYAP27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:59:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC071E4.5D2F1C84@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:57:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> > >> > I thought you were harsh when you suggested that if guests don't like dogs > >> > they can just leave. What happend to southern hospitality? > > Yes - please note who did the suggesting. Sorry, but I can't post the original without searching the archives. I still had the above available. Nevertheless, I stand by what is said above, even if I didn't say it: If guests don't like dogs, they can just leave. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:59:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9UNxwkq013794 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:59:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B53C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:58:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:58:27 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNwR614285 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:58:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.44]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031000006.CYXH27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:00:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0721C.14DC5F3B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:58:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030231347.C484A7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > A Canadian lover? > > LOL. No. So why is she always there when you're in Chicago? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:00:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V00Xkq013818 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:00:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:59:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:59:01 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNx1614356 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:59:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.44]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031000040.CZJN27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0723E.132C8A9A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:58:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182054.009f9830@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I didn't interpret his "footie" to mean US football. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. Good question. I don't know the answer to why I assumed he was a he. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:02:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V01xkq013826 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:01:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B554@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:00:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:00:28 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail203.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.143]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V00S614489 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:00:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.44]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031000207.DAVE27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:02:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC07295.6C668714@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:00:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <200210302335.g9UNZm611083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU prbarfoo wrote: > hmm I read CA as California Interesting. I read it as Canada (obviously). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:06:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V06Tkq013848 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:06:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B594@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:04:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:04:57 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNsv613702 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:57 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9UNstc20566 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:54:55 -0800 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9UNsuRG027854 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:54:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030161047.00a6c420@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:11:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:22 PM 10/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: >>Southwest goes to Boston, doesn't it? After I pick up Alyce and Spyke >>in Germantown, I could pick up JMW in Boston, and then we'd pick up B&L >>in Portland. This is going to be fun! Maybe I should bring Spencer. >>I'm visualizing this group inside my Echo. >> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > >I can advise on a B&B that accepts dogs. Is Spencer invited to AcadiaFest? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:22:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0M7kq014006 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:22:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B651@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:20:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:20:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+rOBbgFgE4JVEGoVjPu31+PyXi4GDt1m@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0AY615702 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:10:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A282FE19 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7F2447C0E; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:10:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <200210302335.g9UNZm611083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> from prbarfoo at "Oct 30, 2002 6:31:58 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:10:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031001033.7F2447C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU prbarfoo said: > >Natalie Maynor said: > >> Karen Kay wrote: > >> > No, my cousin Sally lives in Chicago, but she's always in CA when we > >> > go there. > >> > >> Why? Is she like BrP? > > > >Well, she's a lesbian. > > I'm not a lesbian - at least not in this life. No. But she loves a MOTSS, like you do. > >> A Canadian lover? > > > >LOL. No. > > > >Karen > hmm I read CA as California It is. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:23:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0NEkq014018 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B128A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:21:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:21:42 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0Lf617170 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:21:41 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.33]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4TKWF01.J4M for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:19:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC07763.E2834368@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:20:51 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC061A2.4F3D48AD@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > > If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. > > I am certainly glad you didn't make that rule until post-GoatRoast! Well, I have been known to make exceptions. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:23:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0NUkq014024 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B662@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:21:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:21:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tEsGB5WK7KLwt9/rsww4uLEE36Ig6+LO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0Bv616008 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:11:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368502FE39 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 04EB17C0E; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:11:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC0721C.14DC5F3B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 30, 2002 5:58:20 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:11:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031001156.04EB17C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > A Canadian lover? > > > > LOL. No. > > So why is she always there when you're in Chicago? She's in CA. California. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:25:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0PLkq014037 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:25:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B675@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:23:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3051069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:23:49 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0Nn617360 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:23:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.222]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031002528.ELCU14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:25:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0780E.370BB509@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:23:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.1.5.2.20021030161047.00a6c420@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark wrote: > Is Spencer invited to AcadiaFest? I know for sure that dogs are allowed in Maine. The old friends in Winter Harbor with whom I'll probably stay (though I haven't warned them yet) had a wonderful yellow lab the last time I visited them. And if I don't stay there, I will perhaps stay on the island with my Starkville friends (as in I met them in Starkville thirty-plus years ago, but they now live in BH). They live on the mainland in winter but on their island in summer. And I know it's a dog-friendly island. Spencer could perhaps sniff the spoors of Gus from the summers he spent there and feel since Gus and Bernard were very close friends. Gus is the dog who moved in along with his human companion to dog/house sit for me on two different occasions, one fairly lengthy. And I kept Gus on various occasions when his human companion went to Dallas to visit her fiance. I loved those two-dog winter nights. Gus and Bernard were both great snugglers. I really wanted to take Gus when she had to give him up upon moving to Dallas, but Gus and Henry didn't get along. And I knew that would be a major problem since Bernard and I regularly visited Jackson, home of Henry. (Henry came to visit Starkville to meet Gus. Henry attacked Gus, and Bernardykins leaped in to defend Gus, which I thought was sweet.) Anyway, I remember that day at lunch when Ginny Blaney said they were looking for a dog. I mentioned Gus, and she said, "How long are his legs?" That gave me pause -- both in describing his legs and in wondering what the right answer would be. She then went on to say that he would be spending summers on the island in Maine, which was rocky -- that a dog with very short legs would have problems. End of the story is that they did adopt Gus, and he lived a long and happy life, spending winters here and summers or at least parts of summers on the island in the BH vicinity. He did get lost once somewhere around Washington, DC, where they had stopped for the night. And he wasn't wearing a collar. Everybody was in a panic. But somehow he was gotten back to them after he wandered into a bank. But Spencer is not likely to travel to Maine. He will instead stay at Furrbabies. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:26:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0QFkq014044 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:26:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B682@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:24:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3051108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:24:43 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0Oh617440 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:24:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.222]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031002622.EMET14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:26:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC07845.A7116A53@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:24:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <3DBFFB4C.AF0BF5A2@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC061A2.4F3D48AD@maynor.net> <3DC07763.E2834368@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > I am certainly glad you didn't make that rule until post-GoatRoast! > > Well, I have been known to make exceptions. You're a good man, JMW. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:29:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0TPkq014063 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:29:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040B6BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:27:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3051538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:27:53 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0Rq618329 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:27:53 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.33]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4TL6R00.P3X for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:25:39 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC078D6.A8F3FCB4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:27:02 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >Southwest goes to Boston, doesn't it? No, but somewhere near enough as dammit. Lemme go check. Okay, Providence RI and Manchester NH. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:51:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0pdkq014213 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:51:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040B7D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:50:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3052432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:50:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0o7620394 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:50:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-44.panax.com [63.163.41.44]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0o5t06047 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:50:05 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030194931.00a0cec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:49:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <200210302338.g9UNc1611333@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. > > --bonniev > >You can picture him as a woman all you want, but does that make him a woman? >BrP Nice come back. Can't we all just get along? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:53:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0rEkq014216 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:53:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040B7EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:51:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3052555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:51:42 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0pf620571 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:51:42 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-44.panax.com [63.163.41.44]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0pet06380 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:51:40 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195016.00a0e630@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:51:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <200210302343.g9UNhw612180@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >>Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings > >>or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other > >>ethnic cooking. > > > >The German name is spaetzle. > > --bonniev > >Is this still the lard thread? I've made spaetzel many times and never used >lard or any lard substitute as an ingredient. Perhaps the dumplings that are >ubiquitous in Czech cuisine (I can't remember what they call them) are made >with lard. --BrP You are correct. Spaetzel is made with just flour and water. Maybe a little salt and egg. I only made it once and it sucked. My mother made it fairly well. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:54:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0shkq014228 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:54:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040B7FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:53:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3052599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:53:12 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0rA620705 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:53:11 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-44.panax.com [63.163.41.44]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0r9t06693 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:53:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:52:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030161047.00a6c420@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>>Southwest goes to Boston, doesn't it? After I pick up Alyce and Spyke >>>in Germantown, I could pick up JMW in Boston, and then we'd pick up B&L >>>in Portland. This is going to be fun! Maybe I should bring Spencer. >>>I'm visualizing this group inside my Echo. >>> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >> >>I can advise on a B&B that accepts dogs. > >Is Spencer invited to AcadiaFest? >Betty Sure, why not? Couldn't be any more disruptive than Wild Al. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:57:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0v7kq014241 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:57:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B144D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:55:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3052645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:55:35 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0tZ620836 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:55:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.196]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031005714.PLZO20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:57:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC07F7E.3223C041@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:55:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC078D6.A8F3FCB4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > >Southwest goes to Boston, doesn't it? > > No, but somewhere near enough as dammit. Lemme go check. Okay, > Providence RI and Manchester NH. Either of those would work fine. Both are good-vibe places: Providence because of Clambake and TheParty(tm) and because we could hang out with lovejudith and Paul, Manchester because I'd have fond memories of SnowBash. I did note, however, that it took the luggage forever and ever and ever to get off the plane in Manchester. Then again, one of the few places I've had temporarily lost luggage in my life was Providence. Anyway, I hereby volunteer to pick you up in either of the above places. I vote for Providence since I had already been assuming I'd stop there and probably spend a night with j&p. I haven't warned them yet either. From the way I've been talking y'all probably think that I think nothing of just landing on doorsteps and expecting to spend the night. That's actually far, far from true. I almost never invite myself to stay with anybody. The exceptions are very close friends, which my friends in WH and j&p are. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 18:58:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V0wPkq014249 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:58:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B1459@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:56:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3052691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:56:53 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0uq620934 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:56:52 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-66.panax.com [63.163.41.66]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V0uot07448 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:56:50 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195406.00b5e510@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:56:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021030161047.00a6c420@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:11 PM 10/30/2002 -0800, betty wrote: >Is Spencer invited to AcadiaFest? As far as I know, there is no present law or regulation prohibiting canines of the Southern Persuasion from visiting MDI. Would he welcome at our house? No---nor would any other canine be welcome. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 19:24:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V1OFkq014410 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:24:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040B954@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3054075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:43 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1Mg623808 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:42 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-253.panax.com [63.163.42.253]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1Mdt13335 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030201923.00a04a50@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC07F7E.3223C041@maynor.net> References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC078D6.A8F3FCB4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I did note, however, that it took the luggage forever and >ever and ever to get off the plane in Manchester. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And don't forget how appalled you were at the "whiteness" of Manchester. Of course, Maine is even more so. That might be changing, though, with the arrival of all the Somalis. Even here in Bar Harbor, where the Somalis are unlikely to come because of the lack of affordable housing, I've noticed a greater diversity. Just this morning I saw two black men and one Hispanic. One of the black men runs my new favorite coffee shop. The other was crossing Cottage Street carrying a pumpkin while waving at a passing car and laughing to someone on the other side of the street. The Hispanic came into the coffee shop for coffee while I was getting my chai latte. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 19:26:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V1QEkq014420 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:26:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040B965@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:24:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3054144 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:24:42 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1Og623947 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:24:42 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021031012436.VTVQ8984.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:24:36 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030165228.02d01460@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:22:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Stone Baby In-Reply-To: <20021030204114.953657C10@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC04354.B16A54B8@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >How could it be full term as an ectopic pregnancy?!!!! It's rare, but it happens. The placenta just latches onto a surface inside the abdomen. It's very risky for the mum because there's a good chance the placenta will separate from its mooring and cause severe internal bleeding. And of course, the baby's not coming out without a C-section. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 19:34:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V1YHkq014503 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:34:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B179B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:32:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:32:44 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1WL624570 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:32:21 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.33]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4TO6702.H45 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:30:07 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC087EB.36386091@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:31:24 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > > > How many more Jews, gays, and others of non-Aryan descent would have > > died if we'd NOT gone to war with Germany? More than one or two. > > We'll never know the answer to that question. > The answer seems to be +all+ of them. No. But there are . > Perhaps none. "Meine Kampf" is full of them, just as OBL's declaration of war against us in 1996 was. Kristallnacht leads one to believe that it would have been many, if not all. > But you > seem to be suggesting that that's why we went to war with Germany. Is > it? No. > If so, why did we wait so long? We were doing almost everything we could to ensure it. Escorting British convoys, and having one destroyer damaged and another sunk by U-boats, not to mention Lend-Lease. (Or "Lease-Lend", if you're of a Britannic bent.) It was a great relief to FDR when Germany declared war on *us*. We were prodding them by almost every means possible to goad us to war. Japan was an afterthought, and for most of the war remained so. Arguments are still raging on either sides. I have a book in my possesion where the author states, in 1940 (!), that there will be a war between Japan, Germany, and the US. The only places he slips up is that Japan will attack the Panama Canal because Pearl Harbor is too well defended, and that the participation of Italy is iffy. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 19:34:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V1YHkq014504 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:34:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040BA10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:32:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3054058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:32:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1ML623777 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:21 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9V1MKVO024045 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC071E4.5D2F1C84@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Sorry, but I can't post the original without searching the archives. I >still had the above available. Nevertheless, I stand by what is said >above, even if I didn't say it: If guests don't like dogs, they can >just leave. And here we are, full circle. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 19:34:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V1YHkr014503 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:34:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B179E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:32:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3054043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:31:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1Lo623710 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:21:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9V1LoVO023795 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:21:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:21:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC0716C.B631B90E@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Nor has anyone suggested that. > >Then I don't know what you've been recommending. That guests be informed in advance if dogs will be on the loose. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 19:39:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V1dgkq014537 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:39:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040BA4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:38:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3054219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:38:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hEVTObdzbZtXfpvTJkNX7euX+OHuv0wW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1SA624162 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:28:10 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05772FE8B for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3EDED7C15; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:28:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Stone Baby In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030165228.02d01460@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Oct 30, 2002 5:22: 6 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:28:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031012805.3EDED7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Karen Kay writes, > >How could it be full term as an ectopic pregnancy?!!!! > > It's rare, but it happens. The placenta just latches onto a surface inside > the abdomen. It's very risky for the mum because there's a good chance the > placenta will separate from its mooring and cause severe internal bleeding. > > And of course, the baby's not coming out without a C-section. Oh, oh, oh!!! I feel so sorry for that woman. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 19:56:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V1ulkq014741 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:56:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040BB1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:55:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:55:15 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V1jF626091 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:45:15 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9V1jFVO003056 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:45:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:45:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: modern medicine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU is sometimes wonderful. I saw my surgeon today. He has removed all bandages (saying to use a compression wrap only when the knee is sore, and only if I want to), and I am free to shower, to swim, to do any exercise I want to - he said the knee will tell me when I am doing too much. He promises that all pain will be gone in a matter of weeks. Tonight, I went to choir rehearsal (we're doing Faure's Requiem on Sunday), and I will not have to use crutches on Sunday. I will use them as long as they are helpful, but they are not necessary. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 20:12:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V2C8kq015050 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:12:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040BC01@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3056727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V2Aa629169 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:10:36 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021031021030.XHJF8984.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:10:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Never mind Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:10:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Not coming to Acadiafest ?? > > --bonniev Southwest flies to Hartford/Springfield. John has no excuse! :D --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 20:29:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V2THkq015221 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:29:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B1A69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:27:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3057485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:27:45 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V2Ri631343 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:27:44 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021031022739.EAZB24071.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:27:39 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Hey, Rita! Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20021030192105.5DA9C7C15@yellow.rahul.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Kohl's has good sales. I bought a new vacuum cleaner for 35% off--it > comes with a $30 rebate, too. > > Karen They're putting in a Kohl's in the former Bradlees across the street. I still miss Bradlees. Now that Ames has died, Kohl's is the only thing we have besides W-mart and Boutique Target. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 20:42:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V2gDkq015324 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:42:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040BDCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:40:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3057613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:40:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:19K21g4VVOimxtMnl+sK8i/OaEFUMFgN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V2Ue631712 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:30:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD302FDFE for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 560057C07; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:30:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! In-Reply-To: from Adam Hartfield at "Oct 30, 2002 9:27:46 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:30:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031023039.560057C07@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield said: > They're putting in a Kohl's in the former Bradlees across the street. I > still miss Bradlees. Now that Ames has died, Kohl's is the only thing we > have besides W-mart and Boutique Target. I think they gave me a senior citizens discount. I don't think it's a great store, but this vacuum cleaner was a good buy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:13:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3Dskq015523 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:13:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B1C9C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:12:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:12:21 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3CL603212 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:12:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.162]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031031400.NVBJ24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC09F8C.3B1E206A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:12:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Sure, why not? Couldn't be any more disruptive than Wild Al. Have you met Wild Al ftf? I can imagine him as disruptive only in a situation where it would be a disruption to have a delightful person in the midst of a bunch of bores, which situation is not easy to imagine with Wordslers. Wild Al is a pleasure to be around, as is the rest of his family. (I haven't met Sherm yet, of course, but am guessing that he is too since all the Wildfolk are.) And Wild Al probably wouldn't eat your cats, which Spencer might if he actually came to your house. But the fest itself is to be in public space, right? Are dogs allowed? That question is only out of general curiosity. Spencer will be celebrating the 4th at Furrbabies, where I think they do some kind of patriotic dog event. Have any of you seen a movie called "The Stepfather"? Did they not have 911 when it was made? If not 911, couldn't the mother or daughter have called the regular police number? Well, the mother was languishing in the basement, but the daughter instead of scratching her head and roaming around might have picked up a telephone, mightn't she have? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:16:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3Gkkq015565 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:16:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B1CE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:15:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:15:13 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3FD603456 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:15:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.162]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031031652.NXGC24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:16:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0A03A.D8A0F66E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:15:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195406.00b5e510@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Would he welcome at our > house? No---nor would any other canine be welcome. Just as I assume that it is Spencer's right to be in his own home and that visitors who don't like that shouldn't come, so I assume that Spencer should not go bopping into somebody else's house unless he is clearly and specifically invited. The only houses he has ever visited have been my mother's house and a house in Columbus where a colleague invited him for a "play date" with their dog one day a couple of years ago. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:19:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3JAkq015575 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:19:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040BFF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:17:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:17:37 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Hb603666 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:17:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.162]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031031916.NZEJ24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:19:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0A0CA.378E2D32@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:17:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Then I don't know what you've been recommending. > > That guests be informed in advance if dogs will be on the loose. As I said earlier, I consider that the default. Somebody who doesn't want to party with dogs, whether from general dislike or from allergies, should inquire. Ditto xmas trees. Some people are allergic to them, but I consider them the default at xmas parties. The allergic person should inquire. It's not up to the hostess, imho, to warn all guests that there will be a xmas tree present. Ditto perfume. Etc. etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:21:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3LAkq015585 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:21:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C01E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:19:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:19:37 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Jb603837 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:19:37 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Jbb11616 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:19:37 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.170.143]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g9V3Iuv05401 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:18:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:19:03 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind Message-ID: <929224841.1036016343@LAPLAND> In-Reply-To: <3DC078D6.A8F3FCB4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 5:27 PM -0700 John Williams wrote: > No, but somewhere near enough as dammit. Lemme go check. Okay, > Providence RI and Manchester NH. > > JMW Providence (or rather Warwick - the actual town) is about 20-30 minutes from us. We'd be happy to give you a lift. You could ride shotgun with Al. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:22:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3MSkq015591 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:22:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040C03A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:20:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:20:55 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Ks603982 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:20:54 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-40.panax.com [65.114.190.40]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Krt04357 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:20:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:20:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC09F8C.3B1E206A@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Have you met Wild Al ftf? I can imagine him as disruptive only in a >situation where it would be a disruption to have a delightful person No, I haven't. His list persona certainly sounds disruptive. >But the fest itself is to be in public >space, right? Are dogs allowed? That question is only out of general >curiosity. Spencer will be celebrating the 4th at Furrbabies, where I >think they do some kind of patriotic dog event. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No, the fest itself is at our house. What gave you the idea it would be at a public space? What public space? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:23:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3Nqkq015598 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:23:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C06C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:22:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:22:20 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3MJ604152 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:22:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.162]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031032358.OCTE24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:23:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0A1E5.38BEBF27@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:22:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC078D6.A8F3FCB4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030201923.00a04a50@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I did note, however, that it took the luggage forever and > >ever and ever to get off the plane in Manchester. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > And don't forget how appalled you were at the "whiteness" of > Manchester. Of course, Maine is even more so. That might be changing, I don't remember being appalled by it. It's not the only white place I've ever been in my life. Now that you've mentioned it, I do remember when we were standing there by the luggage carousel for eons that I looked around and said something about how white the population was. At first I couldn't figure out what was odd about the setting, iirc, but then I realized it was a color thing. Iow, I found it odd but not necessarily . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:24:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3Odkq015602 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:24:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C086@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:23:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:23:07 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3N6604216 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:23:06 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.1]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4T003XBTEIFX@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:23:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:24:25 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC0A269.80605@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021031023039.560057C07@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Adam Hartfield said: > >>They're putting in a Kohl's in the former Bradlees across the street. I >>still miss Bradlees. Now that Ames has died, Kohl's is the only thing we >>have besides W-mart and Boutique Target. >> > > I think they gave me a senior citizens discount. I don't think it's a > great store, but this vacuum cleaner was a good buy. Last year I remember handling some merchandise that had Bradlees tags on it -- Kohl's must have picked up some of their inventory when they went under. Karen, watch the Kohl's ads for the next couple of weeks and keep your receipt. The 35% discount is a relatively low one, and it may go 50% soon (there's a discount formula the store follows) -- you can take the receipt back and get the difference. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:26:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3QTkq015610 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:26:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C0AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:24:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:24:56 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Ou604362 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:24:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.162]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031032635.OFAM24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC0A282.403091F0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:24:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> <3DC087EB.36386091@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Dan Lester wrote: > > > > > How many more Jews, gays, and others of non-Aryan descent would have > > > died if we'd NOT gone to war with Germany? More than one or two. > > > > We'll never know the answer to that question. > > > The answer seems to be +all+ of them. > > No. But there are . Why did I not get Dan's original? > It was a great relief to FDR when Germany declared war > on *us*. We were prodding them by almost every means possible to goad us > to war. Those Democrats. Need a Republican at the helm in order to leap into war. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:31:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3VIkq015681 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:31:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040C135@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:29:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:29:46 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Tj604782 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:29:45 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Tjb12091 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:29:45 -0500 Received: from LAPLAND ([131.128.170.143]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g9V3R6v08823 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:27:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:27:12 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: spies R Us Message-ID: <929714294.1036016832@LAPLAND> In-Reply-To: <3DC03FE5.FE9081F3@valstar.net> Originator-Info: login-id=twi5708u; server=postoffice.uri.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300797-005] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU --On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 3:24 PM -0500 alyce cresap wrote: > The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses > mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and > individuals 'in real time' almost anywhere in Britain. > -- > Can the US be far behind? > alyce In RI, 95 is littered with cams and the DOT has a map with clickable cameras so you can check the traffic all around the area. They are starting with the higher traffic areas first. I think eventually they'll be able to track anyone at least while on the road. I see where these mobile tower things could have a farther reach and be more invasive. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 21:41:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V3fUkq015721 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:41:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C244@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:39:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:39:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:9OG4tJkDzxV4f+ujEbD82jviFFzoaN8E@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V3Tv604812 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:29:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A172FE2A for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BF1937C0D; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:29:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! In-Reply-To: <3DC0A269.80605@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Oct 30, 2002 9:24:25 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:29:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031032956.BF1937C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Karen, watch the Kohl's ads for the next couple of weeks and > keep your receipt. The 35% discount is a relatively low > one, and it may go 50% soon (there's a discount formula the > store follows) -- you can take the receipt back and get the > difference. Thanks! I generally ignore their ads, but my vacuum cleaner is almost as old as you are, and 20% off seemed like worth investigating. So I was impressed by the 35%. (Millipedes seem to delight crawling into my house and dying in the corners, and my other vacuum is only good for the middle of the carpet. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 22:10:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V4A8kq015918 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:10:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C531@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:k0cHj+eHt9qGXbLhJINuea3+3dJaGV5y@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V48Y609739 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:35 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B452FDF9 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 3F2222B576; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328BD2B575 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:08:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:08:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > around. What would we serve? I'll bring the Kibbles. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 22:10:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V4APkq015921 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:10:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B213A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3062744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:47 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V48l609750 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:47 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.67.1144cfc (4004) for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:38 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <67.1144cfc.2af206c5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:08:37 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] San Francisco rally To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2002 7:33:22 PM Central Standard Time, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: << Arguments are still raging on either sides. I have a book in my possesion where the author states, in 1940 (!), that there will be a war between Japan, Germany, and the US. >> A lot of people thought in 1938 that there would be war; that's one reason they were so jumpy at the War of the Worlds broadcast. Cite: Howard Koch's book on the broadcast (he was one of the authors of the radioplay). I wish I still had my copy of that book; it was one of the ones I lost in the move from Akron to here. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 22:24:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V4Ookq015991 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:24:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B21CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:23:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3063204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:23:17 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V4NH611006 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:23:17 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.45.1f83e9c6 (4004) for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:23:07 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <45.1f83e9c6.2af20a2b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:23:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hey, Rita! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen, which sweeper did you get? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 22:39:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V4dbkq016054 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:39:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C808@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:38:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3063325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:38:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:H47zBxL5mSrB9lpA5wSEkG1I2Cde9kY9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V4S4611334 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:28:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66072FE6C for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:28:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 959287C10; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:28:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! In-Reply-To: <45.1f83e9c6.2af20a2b@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Oct 30, 2002 11:23: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:28:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031042803.959287C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > Karen, which sweeper did you get? Vacuum cleaner.:) The Hoover WindTunnel Self-Propelled Ultra U6432-900. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 22:47:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V4ljkq016111 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:47:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040C884@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:46:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066802 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:46:12 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V4kC613331 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:46:12 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.14b.16b2be10 (4004) for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14b.16b2be10.2af20f8a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:46:02 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hey, Rita! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2002 10:37:34 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Vacuum cleaner.:) >> Same thing. >> The Hoover WindTunnel Self-Propelled Ultra U6432-900. >> Good choice. I always direct the customers towards the WindTunnels when they ask for the best vacuums. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 22:59:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V4xWkq016162 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:59:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040C908@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:57:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3067020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:57:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:9PSjxAtUNPhiNV0tMMQVGRX7zPU0sXfR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V4vw613941 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:57:58 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A14E2FDDC for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:57:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id E7C8A2B576; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:57:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD17C2B575 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:57:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:57:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: A Music Note Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BECK: Sea Change: b o r i n g There was a cute guy who wasn't so boring - what's his name? Duncan Sheik. Sell them. Also, Coldplay: A Rush of Blood to the Head. Not boring but who needs it around after a few plays. Ann RADIOHEAD From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 22:59:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V4xokq016167 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:59:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040C911@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:58:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3066840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:58:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:T/dY6hpgzIyNs8O2onyPPRg/B09OuxF7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V4mG613447 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:48:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77332FDBF for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:48:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9E0187C0C; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:48:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! In-Reply-To: <14b.16b2be10.2af20f8a@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Oct 30, 2002 11:46: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:48:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > Good choice. I always direct the customers towards the > WindTunnels when they ask for the best vacuums. There's a Kenmore that's more highly rated in Consumer Reports, but there's no way I'm going to Sears. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Oct 30 23:29:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V5T3kq016451 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:29:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B2BB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 0:27:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3067927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:27:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mFrvAfn7R4YgtLHIdKU0Ai0bg8QNGgYI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V50o614703 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:00:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4B92FE8E for ; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9D69E7C0C; Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:00:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! In-Reply-To: <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Oct 30, 2002 8:48:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:00:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay said: > Evelyn Duncan said: > > Good choice. I always direct the customers towards the > > WindTunnels when they ask for the best vacuums. > > There's a Kenmore that's more highly rated in Consumer Reports, but > there's no way I'm going to Sears. Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy than the one I bought, but not as good at cleaning. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 00:01:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V61ikq016698 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:01:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B2CE5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 1:00:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071361 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:00:09 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V603620003 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:00:03 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id AAA19916 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:00:02 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 709E838699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:00:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:00:02 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> References: <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:00:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest > rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy What cares a h4cqu3r for ratings based on this? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 00:05:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V65wkq016727 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:05:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B2D76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 1:04:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:04:23 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9V64N620711 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:04:23 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9V64fp02317 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:04:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:04:41 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021031070441.A2314@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:00:02AM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:00:02AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:00:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: = > Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest = > rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy = = What cares a h4cqu3r for ratings based on this? You don't have a cat? You don't vacuum with a hangover? You don't have deep pile carpet and are a weak old lady? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 02:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V8Dwkq017523 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040D2C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 3:12:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:12:23 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9V8CN630870 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:12:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 18912 invoked by uid 417); 31 Oct 2002 08:12:07 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 31 Oct 2002 08:12:07 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:12:05 -0700 Message-ID: <002801c280b6$002abfc0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:45:42 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MA>I RULE! MA>So where are you? Are you in India? Or the UK? Or where? I read recently that Man U.'s largest fan base is in Japan... MA>I've never heard "footie" before, BTW. I'm surprised to hear you haven't heard the word footie,I'm in India,you follow football? Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 02:36:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V8aXkq017628 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:36:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040D342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 3:34:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076727 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:34:58 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9V8Yv631967 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:34:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 27474 invoked by uid 417); 31 Oct 2002 08:34:25 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 31 Oct 2002 08:34:25 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:34:23 -0700 Message-ID: <00d301c280b9$1d68aea0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC04354.B16A54B8@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Stone Baby Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:03:17 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU AC>This will gross you out. "Woman carried 'stone baby' in her body -- for 46 years" I find it a bit strange,did she feel the pains 'only' after these many years? Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 02:36:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9V8aYkq017631 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:36:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040D342@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 3:34:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:34:59 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g9V8Yx631972 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 03:34:59 -0500 Received: (qmail 27585 invoked by uid 417); 31 Oct 2002 08:34:27 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 31 Oct 2002 08:34:27 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.198.168]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 01:34:25 -0700 Message-ID: <00d401c280b9$1eaf3860$a8c6c0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC03FE5.FE9081F3@valstar.net> Subject: Re: spies R Us Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:08:00 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: alyce cresap To: Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:54 AM Subject: spies R Us > > > Secret radar technology research that will allow the biggest-ever > extension of 'Big Brother'-style surveillance in the UK is being funded > by the Government. > > The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses > mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and > individuals 'in real time' almost anywhere in Britain. Honestly,sometimes I believe India is a good palce to be,we can all do without such invasions of privacy.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 04:14:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VAETkq018130 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:14:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040D67C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 5:12:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3079395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:12:53 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VACr605378 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:12:53 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3G522>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:13:51 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3G52D; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:13:48 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021031111050.0306d080@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:11:58 +0100 Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC06870.7D15B640@maynor.net> References: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021030104056.00a76c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:17 30.10.2002 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Betty Clark wrote: > >> > >> > >> >Espen >> >> I'd even put up with a cat to stay there. > >You inspired me to look, and I was fascinated to find what appears to be >one of Spencer's little couch-and-chair-cover things suspended from the >wall behind the bed. I couldn't see the picture clearly enough to tell >whether those were pawprint decorations, but the colors, size, etc. >looked right. I'm talking about the picture beside the >"Zimmerausstattung" blurb. Actually it is a olive (end of a twig with a couple of leaves and an olive) and bee decoration. That and the colors are main Provence symbols I have realized. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 06:01:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VC1Nkq018745 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:01:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040DA4B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 6:59:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:59:42 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail012.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VBxg614232 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:59:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.93]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031120121.QWSX13979.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:01:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC11B25.1C1911B6@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:59:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > No, the fest itself is at our house. What gave you the idea it would be at > a public space? What public space? Something about a park with food and music? Blueberry pancakes? Parade? Fireworks? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 06:03:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VC3ikq018762 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:03:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040DA68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 7:02:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:02:07 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail012.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VC27630398 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:02:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.93]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031120346.QYQY13979.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:03:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC11BB9.BFD5192C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:02:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021029160141.C53657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021030104056.00a76c60@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.1.6.0.20021031111050.0306d080@victoria.nb.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > Actually it is a olive (end of a twig with a couple of leaves and an olive) and bee decoration. That and the colors are main Provence symbols I have realized. Doesn't sound much like Spencer's paw-print throw after all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 06:15:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VCFvkq018854 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:15:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040DAD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 7:14:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:14:21 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCEL631296 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:14:21 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-112.panax.com [65.114.190.112]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCEJt19006 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:14:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071008.009fb2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:14:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! In-Reply-To: <20021031070441.A2314@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >= > Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest >= > rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy --Karen >= >= What cares a h4cqu3r for ratings based on this? -T-Bone > >You don't have a cat? >You don't vacuum with a hangover? >You don't have deep pile carpet and are a weak old lady? -steph Hey, that's not funny. Especially the hangover bit. My powerful Dirt Devil upright purchased at Sam's Club died a couple of weeks ago. I took off my ear protectors and jumped with joy. The thing was so noisy that if I happened to lean over to pick something off the rug while it was running, the noise was physically painful. No hangover needed. That's why I bought the ear protectors. Now that it has died I went to a local hardware store, plugged in their Eureka to listen for myself before purchase, and found it almost silent in comparison. I bought it. It does not have the suction. But I don't care. I may be able to continue to hear into my 90s. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 06:21:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VCL4kq018878 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:21:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040DB0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 7:19:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:19:28 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCJS631664 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:19:28 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-112.panax.com [65.114.190.112]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCJQt19957 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:19:26 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071554.009f98d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:19:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC11B25.1C1911B6@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > No, the fest itself is at our house. What gave you the idea it would be at > > a public space? What public space? > >Something about a park with food and music? Blueberry pancakes? >Parade? Fireworks? -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Maybe I've got this all wrong, never having been at the annual fest. Would you consider the above a wordsler fest when it is done in the company of about 500,000 tourists? I quote: Friday, July 4th. Meebers will be on their own to celebrate an old-fashioned, small town holiday in Bar Harbor, from the blueberry pancake breakfast on the Athletic Field through the fireworks over the Frenchman Bay. The breakfast is held on the village athletic field and runs from six a.m. until around nine. The parade stages at the same athletic field, begins at 10, and moves through the village streets. This parade has everything from decorated tricycles to rescue greyhound dogs to all the fire departments of the island to Scottish pipers to the little racing cars driven by overweight Shriners. After the parade, a lobster and mussel dinner is available at the site of the blueberry pancake feast. Throughout the day and evening, there is music at the Village Green and in Agamont Park. There is face painting at the athletic field and an antique show across the street. Lots of activity. Fireworks, weather permitting, are set off over the Bay around nine p.m. Fog often forces the fireworks to be postponed until the next night. Perhaps Bonnie or Clyde can be persuaded to lead a hike somewhere in Acadia National Park that afternoon. For those meebers who would rather drink and talk, there will be an open house all day at the Voigtlander home. No meals will be served however. Munchies and local microbrews will be available. Saturday, July 5th. The official fest day. A meal will be served at the Voigtlander house, probably midday, probably something simple on the grill. Again meebers are invited to hang out during the day at Casa Voigtlander. Again Clyde or Bonnie might be persuaded to lead a hike. We will certainly be available for advice on the many things to do in town: whale watching, sailing excursions, rental bikes, kayak tours, museums, driving the Park Loop Road, etc. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 06:21:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VCLekq018884 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:21:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040DB10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 7:20:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:20:03 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCK3632172 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:20:03 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.1]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4U003LXI9EWT@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:20:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:21:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Parents To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC12042.2010201@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I talked to *30* parents last night. Unbelievable. Most of the parents were great -- a couple of them gave me a good indication why their kid is annoying and obnoxious :). So many of the parents went to school at WGHS -- it's a tight community -- everybody knows everybody. I ran into Eamonn, my po professor from last spring -- he's got two kids in the school (I don't have them). And I saw two local TV celebrities (don't have their kids either -- those are gifted program kids and I don't do gifted). Today, I'm wiped. I planned a pretty light day for myself, but still. I got to school yesterday at 7:00am and left at 8:30pm. Next year I'll plan videos. Sheesh, when I went to school we didn't have VCR's -- how did those teachers survive :). -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 06:26:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VCQXkq018902 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:26:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040DB4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 7:24:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:24:56 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCOu600587 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:24:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.61]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031122635.YKVE282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC12112.266C140A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:24:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071554.009f98d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Maybe I've got this all wrong, never having been at the annual fest. Would > you consider the above a wordsler fest when it is done in the company of > about 500,000 tourists? We've had both kinds of fests -- some in private space, some in public space. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 06:51:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VCpEkq019023 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:51:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040DC33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 7:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:49:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe12.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCnb602788 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:49:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:49:32 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: A Music Note Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:49:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2002 12:49:32.0467 (UTC) FILETIME=[F57E1830:01C280DB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I started listening to Rush of Blood to the Head a couple of days ago and I have been thinking that it is the first album I've heard in years where the radio hit is the weakest tune on the disc. The songs seem to flow logically from one to the next, not the way Sinatra did on Songs from the September of My Life (hit-over-the-head obviousness), but in a more musical rising-and-falling way, if that means anything. The last track, Amsterdam, is really nice and gives the album a period at the end of the sentence. There's another tune mid-disc whose name escapes me at the moment that starts out simple and suddenly adds about 5 layers of complexity that I really enjoyed. Some of the music is dead rip offs of Beatles and Oasis tunes, but heck, I like both of those groups, so it's all good. Got two discs by White Stripes coming from Amazon in a few days. -aht ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Borkin" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:57 PM Subject: A Music Note > BECK: Sea Change: b o r i n g > > There was a cute guy who wasn't so boring - what's his name? Duncan > Sheik. Sell them. Also, Coldplay: A Rush of Blood to the Head. Not > boring but who needs it around after a few plays. > > Ann > RADIOHEAD > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:26:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VDQKkq019215 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:26:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040DD10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 8:09:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:09:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VD9x604649 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:09:59 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-238.panax.com [63.163.41.238]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VD9wt29549 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:09:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:09:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC11B25.1C1911B6@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:59 AM 10/31/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >bonniev wrote: > > > No, the fest itself is at our house. What gave you the idea it would be at > > a public space? What public space? > >Something about a park with food and music? Blueberry pancakes? >Parade? Fireworks? Dogs are permitted in most outdoor spaces in Bar Harbor, except for the village green. There is a leash law in the village as well as in ANP; it is enforced in both places. As for Spencer at the two public food events (pancakes; lobster), it will be crowded with people sitting around and eating or standing in line waiting to get their---not a good place for a dog other than a seeing-eye dog. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:26:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VDQLkq019216 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:26:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040DD39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 8:12:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:12:48 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VDCm604963 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:12:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC12CD8.B89448F2@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:15:04 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Dumplings redux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My sister has the lard dumpling recipe, and here it is: Melt 1/2 cup lard (or margarine) and thoroughly blend in 1 cup flour while on the burner. Slowly add boiling water, stirring until dough lets go from pan. (I do not know how much water or what kind of pan - these are her words.) Cool just slightly. Add three eggs, beating in one at a time with spoon until smooth. This is the dough. Drop by spoonfuls into boiling salted water. Simmer (Don't boil) until they rise to the top. Move to plate to drain. To heat, put on a plate on top of the soup pot and steam. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:26:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VDQKkq019213 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:26:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040DC64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 7:54:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:54:47 -0500 Received: from ufe069.disk.sterling.va.infi.net (snat1.sterling.va.infi.net [209.97.61.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VCsh603343 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:54:43 -0500 Received: (from cledger@localhost) by ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id MAA11474; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:12:19 GMT Message-Id: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> From: natalie@maynor.net To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Organization: http://www.clarionledger.com Subject: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor Date: Thursday, October 31, 2002 12:12 AM Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ======================================================== This is a Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from: Natalie Maynor UFOs Words-L, This is a story from yesterday's Clarion-Ledger about a UFO adventure a long time ago on the coast. I remember when it happened. These people sounded believable in a way then and still do. ======================================================== Natalie Maynor liked a story on our site and thought you might be interested, too. To go to the story, point your web browser at http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0210/30/o01.html Thank you for using The Clarion-Ledger Internet Edition. Please come back soon. Sincerely, Clarion-Ledger Online Web Postcards http://www.clarionledger.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:26:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VDQKkq019214 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:26:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040DC9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 8:00:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:00:14 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VD0E603840 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:00:14 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-254.panax.com [63.163.41.254]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VD0Ct27554 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:00:13 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031075911.009fda30@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:00:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC12112.266C140A@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071554.009f98d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >We've had both kinds of fests -- some in private space, some in public >space. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Please describe one that was in a public space. What kind of public space? Were people able to visit and talk and sit around to chat in a wordsler group? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:26:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VDQLkq019217 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:26:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040DD4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 8:13:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:13:43 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VDDg605128 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:13:42 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09067 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 08:13:41 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 08:13:38 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:13:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Never mind Message-ID: <3DC0E62C.12232.53F52C7@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021031001033.7F2447C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <200210302335.g9UNZm611083@listserv.cc.uga.edu> from prbarfoo at "Oct 30, 2002 6:31:58 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > I'm not a lesbian - at least not in this life. > > No. But she loves a MOTSS, like you do. :-) I understood - just making a reference to a time in my life when I thought I was living out some lesbian karma because every woman I fell in love with ended up with a woman (that was when I decided to start dating men) BrP > > > >> A Canadian lover? > > > > > >LOL. No. > > > > > >Karen > > hmm I read CA as California > > It is. > > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:30:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VDUrkq019259 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:30:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040DE3B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 8:29:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:29:16 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VDTF606441 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:29:15 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3G6J1>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:57 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3G6JC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:54 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021031142806.030b0160@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:04 +0100 Subject: Good music from Oslo In-Reply-To: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am now listening to a Bob Dylan bootleg double-CD from a concert in Oslo last spring. (Oslo 2002) And this is good! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:48:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VDmPkq019338 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:48:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040DF8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 8:46:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:46:48 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VDkm609249 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:46:48 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22378 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:46:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 08:46:48 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 08:46:30 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:46:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Parents Message-ID: <3DC0EDE4.4445.1088C4@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC12042.2010201@swbell.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congratulations on surviving Parents' Night. When my kids were in school I always looked forward to the event. A highlight for me was sitting quietly in my child's seat and looking around so I could put in context the stories they told me about classroom events. Do other parents do that? BrP > I talked to *30* parents last night. Unbelievable. Most of > the parents were great -- a couple of them gave me a good > indication why their kid is annoying and obnoxious :). So > many of the parents went to school at WGHS -- it's a tight > community -- everybody knows everybody. I ran into Eamonn, > my po professor from last spring -- he's got two kids in the > school (I don't have them). And I saw two local TV > celebrities (don't have their kids either -- those are > gifted program kids and I don't do gifted). > > Today, I'm wiped. I planned a pretty light day for myself, > but still. I got to school yesterday at 7:00am and left at > 8:30pm. Next year I'll plan videos. Sheesh, when I went to > school we didn't have VCR's -- how did those teachers > survive :). > > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman > rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org > http://www.etext.org/~rita > > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:15:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEFkkq019593 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:15:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E1DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:14:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:14:09 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEE9613630 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:14:09 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04172 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 09:14:08 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 09:12:35 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:12:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: modern medicine Message-ID: <3DC0F3FA.19601.284FF4@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How nice that you'll be able to perform uncrutched! I love the Faure - have sung it many times. It has such a wonderful dreamy mysterious quality. I especially love the Sanctus with its modulating dialogue between the men's and women's voices. mmmmm Are you doing it with full orchestra? BrP > is sometimes wonderful. I saw my surgeon today. He has removed all > bandages (saying to use a compression wrap only when the knee is sore, and > only if I want to), and I am free to shower, to swim, to do any exercise I > want to - he said the knee will tell me when I am doing too much. He > promises that all pain will be gone in a matter of weeks. > > Tonight, I went to choir rehearsal (we're doing Faure's Requiem on > Sunday), and I will not have to use crutches on Sunday. I will use them > as long as they are helpful, but they are not necessary. > > Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:31:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEVqkq019678 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:31:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040E34D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:30:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3090543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:30:14 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEUE616477 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:30:14 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12011 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 09:29:56 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 09:29:31 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:29:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: the menu, please Message-ID: <3DC0F7F9.32026.37EBC7@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > > around. What would we serve? > > I'll bring the Kibbles. > > Ann I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who would have said "I'll bring the kibble" ? BrP Paul R. Barfoot Special Collections Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:34:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEXxkq019687 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:34:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B46DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:32:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3090661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:32:22 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEWM616732 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:32:22 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEF33402D4; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:32:19 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:32:19 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1211860895.20021031073219@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3DC060F1.31F5BAC2@maynor.net> References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> <3DC060F1.31F5BAC2@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 3:45 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> >> If you were in the USA I'd guess Nebraska, but since you're not, I'm >> clueless. NM> I didn't interpret his "footie" to mean US football. Nor did I, obviously, since I said he's not in USA. I assumed he meant "football" in the non-USA sense, i.e. "soccer". NM> I thought he was NM> talking about the football played in the rest of the world. Isn't NM> there a team somewhere in England named the Reds? Yes. And also many other colors. NM> Probably other places NM> also, though. I'm trying to remember now what the color name is in New NM> Zealand football -- something like the Blacks. And same for .nz, .au, etc. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:35:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEZjkq019725 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:35:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B46F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3090737 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:34:08 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEY8616925 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:34:08 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AF5D2EF0130; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:34:05 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:34:04 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 3:47 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: >> >R> I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. >> >> Seems to me that Alabama is sometimes referred to as the Red Tide; for that >> matter, doesn't Cornell's nickname have something to do with "red"? NM> Seems to me that it would be mightily odd for somebody in another NM> country to know or care anything about US fb. Actually not. The SuperBowl is seen world wide by vast numbers, as an example. Look at all the NFL shirts you see worn in other countries. And why is it any different from a significant number of Americans caring about World Cup, UK Rugby, etc, etc. I know that you don't get those cable channels, but those things are on....and watched. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:36:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEaukq019738 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:36:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E3C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:35:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3090817 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:35:19 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEZJ617079 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:35:19 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFA41280228; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:35:16 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:35:16 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1792037880.20021031073516@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> References: <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 3:51 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> bonniev wrote: >> > If Southwest doesn't go there neither do I. >> >JMW >> >> Not coming to Acadiafest ?? NM> Southwest goes to Boston, doesn't it? Nope. Providence. In same manner it goes to BWI, not Reagan or Dulles. NM> After I pick up Alyce and Spyke NM> in Germantown, I could pick up JMW in Boston, and then we'd pick up B&L NM> in Portland. This is going to be fun! Maybe I should bring Spencer. NM> I'm visualizing this group inside my Echo. NM> -- NM> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:38:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEcdkq019743 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:38:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B474B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:37:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3090986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:36:56 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEau617298 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:36:56 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A005B6029A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:36:53 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:36:53 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <112135180.20021031073653@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 3:57 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> How many more Jews, gays, and others of non-Aryan descent would have >> died if we'd NOT gone to war with Germany? More than one or two. NM> We'll never know the answer to that question. Perhaps none. But you NM> seem to be suggesting that that's why we went to war with Germany. Is NM> it? If so, why did we wait so long? I'm not saying that is WHY we went to war with Germany. We waited so long because of all the pacifist idiots here and elsewhere. I seem to remember someone (not in US) saying "Peace in Our Time". Yeah. Look where it got him/them. There were vast numbers of isolationists in the USA until Pearl Harbor. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:40:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEe1kq019751 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:40:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E40B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:38:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:38:23 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEcN617623 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:38:23 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A05CD60204; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:38:20 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:38:20 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1582221944.20021031073820@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182324.009f60c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DC03DE5.8CA24681@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028191131.00a198e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028195323.00a07480@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBEF6E3.F3C7A4D0@valstar.net> <016101c27fc0$3cecde80$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DBFE7B4.259B9584@valstar.net> <153126411.20021030071735@gailndan.com> <3DC03DE5.8CA24681@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182324.009f60c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 4:23 PM, bonniev wrote: >>Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings >>or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other >>ethnic cooking. b> The German name is spaetzle. Thank you. That's one I couldn't remember, despite having eaten vast quantities of them. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:40:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEeQkq019755 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:40:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E411@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:38:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091134 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:38:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEcm617664 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:38:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC140FE.86DFB053@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:41:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <3DC0F7F9.32026.37EBC7@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > > > I'll bring the Kibbles. > > > > Ann > > I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who would have > said "I'll bring the kibble" ? Cf. Kibbles 'n' Bits. One kibble would be pretty sparse. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:41:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEfJkq019764 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:41:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E420@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:39:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:39:41 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEdf617778 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:39:41 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A0AABC029A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:39:38 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:39:38 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1882299887.20021031073938@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC06A59.32035C10@maynor.net> References: <20021030194903.0210C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <5173825595.20021030130234@gailndan.com> <3DC06A59.32035C10@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 4:25 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Dan Lester wrote: >> KK> 28th. Anything else you need to know? I don't know whether I'm getting >> KK> any meals or not. >> >> Well, hope you don't starve those days. You can always do the >> bread, butter and sugar. NM> That sounds like a messy combination to carry on a plane. How about a NM> Balance Bar? Actually, I find that nabs do fine. They're easily stuck NM> into a purse, they aren't illegal on planes, and they're there if you NM> aren't fed. There's nothing illegal on planes as far as food goes. You can't take your own booze, of course. Many people on SW take sack lunches, either brought from home or some carryout place, whether pre-airport or airport. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:41:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEfxkq019769 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:41:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E429@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:40:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:40:21 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEeL617906 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:40:21 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A0D21330228; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:40:18 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:40:18 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1602339954.20021031074018@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021030232653.4B27F7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021030232653.4B27F7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 4:26 PM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> bonniev said: >> >Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings >> >or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other >> >ethnic cooking. >> >> The German name is spaetzle. KK> Those aren't dumplings. But they're flour and lard. And at least "something like" dumplings and "more or less the same thing". -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:43:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEhMkq019772 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:43:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E441@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:41:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:41:44 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEfi618097 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:41:44 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:41:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:43:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > ======================================================== > > This is a Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from: Natalie Maynor I hate those giant eyeballs! Scare me half to death. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:46:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEkRkq019804 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E49E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:44:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:44:44 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEii619163 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:44:44 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1D71690230; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:44:39 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:44:39 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <952601390.20021031074439@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 6:22 PM, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: BKD> On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >>Sorry, but I can't post the original without searching the archives. I >>still had the above available. Nevertheless, I stand by what is said >>above, even if I didn't say it: If guests don't like dogs, they can >>just leave. BKD> And here we are, full circle. Isn't that the norm for this ? Various folks staggering around in circles, bumping into each other, occasionally hitting or hugging each other, but always coming back to the same place for a refreshing adult beverage and some food of either vegetarian or carnivore persuasion. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:52:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEqSkq019834 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:52:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E538@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:50:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:50:51 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEoo621035 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:50:50 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A344EA0238; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:50:44 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:49:56 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <892918196.20021031074956@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC09F8C.3B1E206A@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC09F8C.3B1E206A@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:12 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Have any of you seen a movie called "The Stepfather"? Did they not have NM> 911 when it was made? If not 911, couldn't the mother or daughter have NM> called the regular police number? Well, the mother was languishing in NM> the basement, but the daughter instead of scratching her head and NM> roaming around might have picked up a telephone, mightn't she have? Haven't seen, but since was made in 87 know there were plenty of places without 911 at that time. Still are a few. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:53:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VErqkq019846 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:53:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040E55F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:52:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:voauUHSCkMGQ011MHHajjeEfoGDce17I@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEgE618190 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:42:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B212FDC0 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86E7C7C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:42:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <3DC0F7F9.32026.37EBC7@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Oct 31, 2002 9:29:30 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:42:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031144213.86E7C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > > > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > > > around. What would we serve? > > > > I'll bring the Kibbles. > > > > Ann > > I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who would have > said "I'll bring the kibble" ? I've never seen it pluralized before, either. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:54:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEsSkq019853 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:54:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4946@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:52:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:50 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEqo621391 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:50 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3BD13C0228; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:45 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:52:42 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <803084014.20021031075242@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: San Francisco rally In-Reply-To: <3DC0A282.403091F0@maynor.net> References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> <3DC087EB.36386091@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC0A282.403091F0@maynor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:24 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: NM> Why did I not get Dan's original? Part of the great governmental/Republican conspiracy to keep you from getting important email. >> It was a great relief to FDR when Germany declared war >> on *us*. We were prodding them by almost every means possible to goad us >> to war. NM> Those Democrats. Need a Republican at the helm in order to leap into NM> war. AFAIK FDR was never a Republican.....but I could be wrong. Same for Truman and JFK and LBJ. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:55:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEtlkq019863 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:55:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E5A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:54:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:54:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3GUeueOc54eDGS/aGwstnBqRaAR+XkJ1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEi9618436 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:44:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EB12FDFE for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:44:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CC0847C18; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:44:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <1882299887.20021031073938@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 31, 2002 7:39:38 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:44:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031144408.CC0847C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > Many people on SW take sack lunches, > either brought from home or some carryout place, whether pre-airport > or airport. Not just SW. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:56:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEuUkq019872 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:56:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040E5BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:54:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:54:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:i0U9WW516H3/gY9wgNja+XZAl5Ijr0pH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEim619272 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:44:48 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553822FDD7 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1CD3F7C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:44:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <1602339954.20021031074018@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 31, 2002 7:40:18 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:44:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031144448.1CD3F7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/30/2002, 4:26 PM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> bonniev said: > >> >Could tell it wasn't crust, but figured something like dumplings > >> >or....forget other names for more or less the same thing in other > >> >ethnic cooking. > >> > >> The German name is spaetzle. > > KK> Those aren't dumplings. > > But they're flour and lard. And at least "something like" dumplings > and "more or less the same thing". Ligniere made them for me and they were more like noodles than dumplings. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:57:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEv0kq019881 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:57:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B49D2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:55:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:55:23 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEtM622123 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:55:22 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A4578F027C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:55:19 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:55:19 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1493241370.20021031075519@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: spies R Us In-Reply-To: <929714294.1036016832@LAPLAND> References: <929714294.1036016832@LAPLAND> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/30/2002, 8:27 PM, Terry Wild wrote: TW> In RI, 95 is littered with cams and the DOT has a map with clickable TW> cameras so you can check the traffic all around the area. They are TW> starting with the higher traffic areas first. I think eventually they'll TW> be able to track anyone at least while on the road. In Boise many of the major, accident prone intersections have cams on them. They help monitor traffic, but also automatically snap a pix of anyone running a red light. Tickets are issued. This is hardly unique or rocket science, and you can be sure it occurs many other places. TW> I see where these mobile tower things could have a farther reach and be TW> more invasive. Come to our library. We have video cam on the exit, shoots a still every 0.4 seconds. Have caught two bad guys with it in the six months we've had it. One a serial public masturbator, another our latest foot fondler/licker. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:57:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEv2kq019886 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:57:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E5D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:55:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:55:24 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEtO622142 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:55:24 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-137.panax.com [63.163.41.137]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEtNt16748 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:55:23 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031095334.009f5d70@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:55:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <3DC0F7F9.32026.37EBC7@localhost> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who >would have >said "I'll bring the kibble" ? --BrP I would have said that. I think of it as a plural noun. But then you and I can think of it any way we want and it doesn't make it so. ;-) Or maybe not. In language use, if enough people make the same error, it becomes part of the language. I learned that on this service. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:58:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VEwTkq019898 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:58:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E5F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:56:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:56:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:SELGMFvGz3Vd8wC9ze2CIo2ec74CRgwi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEkp620076 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:46:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90AB2FDFE for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:46:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 845407C0A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:46:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Go google today! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:46:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's pretty cute. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:59:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VExLkq019905 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:59:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040E605@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:57:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:57:43 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEvh622569 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:57:43 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25214 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 09:57:42 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 09:57:34 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:57:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: spies R Us Message-ID: <3DC0FE8B.6688.519449@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1493241370.20021031075519@gailndan.com> References: <929714294.1036016832@LAPLAND> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Come to our library. We have video cam on the exit, shoots a still > every 0.4 seconds. Have caught two bad guys with it in the six months > we've had it. One a serial public masturbator, another our latest > foot fondler/licker. > > -- latest? Is foot fondling a common thing in Idaho? BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 08:59:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VExqkq019909 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:59:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E614@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 9:58:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:58:15 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VEwF622660 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:58:15 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:58:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1458D.D4B23B9F@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:00:29 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021031144448.1CD3F7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Ligniere made them for me and they were more like noodles than dumplings. Spaetle is/are like noodles to me. I think it is just the shape and size that determines noodle v. dumpling, maybe. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:04:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VF4pkq019946 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4AEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:03:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092741 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:03:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ytFyMSJrk7vElhQHFUuhJVradZojuZhf@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VErD621494 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:53:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D552FE40 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7D4057C0A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <20021031144213.86E7C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Oct 31, 2002 6:42:13 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:53:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031145312.7D4057C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay said: > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > > > > > > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing > > > > around. What would we serve? > > > > > > I'll bring the Kibbles. > > > > > > Ann > > > > I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who would have > > said "I'll bring the kibble" ? > > I've never seen it pluralized before, either. Except that I do remember Kibbles and Bits--we fed some to my little sister, once. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:05:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VF53kq019950 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:05:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4B0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:03:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:03:25 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VF3O623387 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:03:24 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A6363002EE; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:03:18 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:03:15 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1073717114.20021031080315@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021031144408.CC0847C18@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021031144408.CC0847C18@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 7:44 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dan Lester said: >> Many people on SW take sack lunches, >> either brought from home or some carryout place, whether pre-airport >> or airport. KK> Not just SW. No shit, Sherlock. But SW is the prime example since they explicitly NEVER serve food. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:08:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VF8kkq019962 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:08:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4BAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:07:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3094028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:07:08 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VF78624002 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:07:08 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A719E80286; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:07:05 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:07:02 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1283944441.20021031080702@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: spies R Us In-Reply-To: <3DC0FE8B.6688.519449@localhost> References: <929714294.1036016832@LAPLAND> <3DC0FE8B.6688.519449@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 7:57 AM, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >> >> Come to our library. We have video cam on the exit, shoots a still >> every 0.4 seconds. Have caught two bad guys with it in the six months >> we've had it. One a serial public masturbator, another our latest >> foot fondler/licker. >> >> -- PRB> latest? Is foot fondling a common thing in Idaho? Well, from what I've seen on porn sites, it is more common than I'd expect in all sorts of places. But so are lots of other activities that are to me. (And, no, don't mean Verdant-style activities, but those involving non-humans, waste products, etc.) We've had a ton of searches done on our public machines for terms like stockings, nylons, feet, and related terms, in various combinations. And the foot guys have crawled around under tables or study carrels, find a woman, preferably who has kicked her shoes off for comfort, and then fondle, caress, lick, kiss her foot/feet. Naturally this pisses them off and they scream, complain, etc. (Well, if any of them have sat there and enjoyed it, we've not heard about it.....and I hope they got a room) dan -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:11:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFB3kq019969 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:11:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040E72E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:09:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3094183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:09:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VF9P624261 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:09:25 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-137.panax.com [63.163.41.137]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VF9Ot19492 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:09:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:09:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Go google today! In-Reply-To: <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >It's pretty cute. --Karen I have the Google taskbar on my Internet Explorer. When you go in that way, you don't see the holiday decorations. I had to type it in and then I got the right page. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:14:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFEakq019987 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:14:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4C57@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:12:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:12:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:SHR053hZ6wuHBFMSZEl8MHz+wltVJFa4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VF2v623333 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:02:58 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DDE2FDF6 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 38CE77C09; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:02:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC1458D.D4B23B9F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 31, 2002 10: 0:29 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:02:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031150257.38CE77C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Ligniere made them for me and they were more like noodles than dumplings. > > Spaetle is/are like noodles to me. I think it is just the shape and size > that determines noodle v. dumpling, maybe. Well, shape and size is everything, isn't it? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:17:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFHYkq020024 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:17:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040E7DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:15:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3094678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:15:56 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFFu625434 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:15:56 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04320 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 10:15:56 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 31 Oct 02 10:15:40 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:15:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: spies R Us Message-ID: <3DC102C4.18488.6214AE@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <1283944441.20021031080702@gailndan.com> References: <3DC0FE8B.6688.519449@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > PRB> latest? Is foot fondling a common thing in Idaho? > > Well, from what I've seen on porn sites, it is more common than I'd > expect in all sorts of places. But so are lots of other activities > that are to me. (And, no, don't mean Verdant-style > activities, but those involving non-humans, waste products, etc.) > > We've had a ton of searches done on our public machines for terms like > stockings, nylons, feet, and related terms, in various combinations. > And the foot guys have crawled around under tables or study carrels, > find a woman, preferably who has kicked her shoes off for comfort, and > then fondle, caress, lick, kiss her foot/feet. Naturally this pisses > them off and they scream, complain, etc. (Well, if any of them have > sat there and enjoyed it, we've not heard about it.....and I hope they > got a room) > > dan I have no doubt that foot fetish is popular, but I have just never heard of any similar incidents being reported here. Perhaps it all happens, as you say, . BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:22:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFMKkq020052 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:22:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040E846@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:20:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3095043 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:20:42 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFKg626207 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:20:42 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AA471302DA; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:20:39 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:20:39 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1834760995.20021031082039@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021031150257.38CE77C09@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021031150257.38CE77C09@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 8:02 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> alyce cresap said: >> Karen Kay wrote: >> > Ligniere made them for me and they were more like noodles than dumplings. >> >> Spaetle is/are like noodles to me. I think it is just the shape and size >> that determines noodle v. dumpling, maybe. KK> Well, shape and size is everything, isn't it? There are those who say size is everything. There are also those who say that anything more than a mouthful is wasted. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:23:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFN1kq020058 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:23:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4D53@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:21:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3095138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:21:23 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFLM626343 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:21:22 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9VFLLG00260 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:21:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <017501c280f1$6bc2d700$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:23:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > ======================================================== > > > > This is a Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from: Natalie Maynor > Enjoyed the article. It brought back old times. I used to follow this stuff pretty closely during those years. Kept a folder of clippings , which I've since destroyed. The thing most interesting to me in the article was the paragraph about Podesta. I hope we hear more about that. It is the Information Age, after all, and maybe we are grown up enough to be able to "take" a little info on such phenomena. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:24:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFOakq020067 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:24:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E894@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:22:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3095385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:22:58 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f36.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFMw626814 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:22:58 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:22:52 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:22:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Jam Master Jay Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:22:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2002 15:22:52.0654 (UTC) FILETIME=[613B38E0:01C280F1] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Another one bites the dust... King of Rock is one of my all-time faves. (Do you know this one, AnnB? It's old, 1986 or so.) -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:30:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFUpkq020120 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:30:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040E948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:29:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3094909 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:29:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:WAWfa5Qzo4aLMQh8I1aO3ldB3w9xWd+T@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFJC625944 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:19:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154ED2FE5A for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:19:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CB1497C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:19:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: spies R Us In-Reply-To: <3DC102C4.18488.6214AE@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Oct 31, 2002 10:15:33 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:19:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031151911.CB1497C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > I have no doubt that foot fetish is popular, but I have just never heard of any similar > incidents being reported here. Perhaps it all happens, as you say, . Maybe you keep your library colder? Yale kept Sterling Library at 60 degrees--everyone kept all their clothes on during the winter. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:33:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFX8kq020131 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:33:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4EC2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:31:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3095151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:31:27 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:I2hqiLo/VyWQORkzG6/IaRNigyu/rNdw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFLR626368 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:21:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78612FDC0 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A66CB7C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <1834760995.20021031082039@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 31, 2002 8:20:39 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031152126.A66CB7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/31/2002, 8:02 AM, Karen Kay wrote: > > KK> alyce cresap said: > >> Karen Kay wrote: > >> > Ligniere made them for me and they were more like noodles than dumplings. > >> > >> Spaetle is/are like noodles to me. I think it is just the shape and size > >> that determines noodle v. dumpling, maybe. > > KK> Well, shape and size is everything, isn't it? > > There are those who say size is everything. There are also those who > say that anything more than a mouthful is wasted. Of Spaetzle?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:36:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFaPkq020148 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B4F2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:34:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:34:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFYl629221 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:34:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4UR6A02.T5C for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:32:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC14E1F.A29D150B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:37:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> <112135180.20021031073653@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > NM> We'll never know the answer to that question. Perhaps none. But you > NM> seem to be suggesting that that's why we went to war with Germany. Is > NM> it? If so, why did we wait so long? > > I'm not saying that is WHY we went to war with Germany. We waited so > long because of all the pacifist idiots here and elsewhere. I seem to > remember someone (not in US) saying "Peace in Our Time". Yeah. Look > where it got him/them. There were vast numbers of isolationists in > the USA until Pearl Harbor. And the next time you see that newsreel clip from the 1940 campaign showing FDR pledging to "never, ever, send your boys to fight in a foreign war!" that he was simultaneously moving heaven and earth behind the scenes to put the US industial base on a war footing. Thank God. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 09:46:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VFkNkq020215 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:46:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B5091@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:44:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:44:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1pC78cvYOcV9TvqNWoGTYFf0x5Iwtv8Z@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VFYi629217 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:34:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1C22FDF2 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 22A117C15; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:34:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: West Wing To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:34:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031153444.22A117C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish that our local politicians were at least 1/10th as interesting or articulate at the West Wing guys instead of the slimeballs they are. I wish we could just vacate the position of governor for a year and make the candidates grow up. And I'm really pleased to see the guy from Sports Night--I liked him a lot. I guess he'll be taking over Rob Lowe's spot when he leaves? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 10:08:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VG86kq020331 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:08:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040ECC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:06:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:06:27 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VG6R603753 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:06:27 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A500142023A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:06:24 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:06:24 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1697505842.20021031090624@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: spies R Us In-Reply-To: <20021031151911.CB1497C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021031151911.CB1497C0F@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 8:19 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Paul R. Barfoot said: >> I have no doubt that foot fetish is popular, but I have just never heard of any similar >> incidents being reported here. Perhaps it all happens, as you say, . KK> Maybe you keep your library colder? Yale kept Sterling Library at 60 KK> degrees--everyone kept all their clothes on during the winter. Well, we had one complaint of one caressing the shoes, too. Don't know what kind of shoes. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 10:08:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VG8fkq020337 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:08:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040ECCD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099872 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:03 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VG73603843 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:03 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A522143023A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:06:58 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:06:58 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1997539971.20021031090658@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <20021031152126.A66CB7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021031152126.A66CB7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 8:21 AM, Karen Kay wrote: KK> Dan Lester said: >> 10/31/2002, 8:02 AM, Karen Kay wrote: >> >> KK> alyce cresap said: >> >> Karen Kay wrote: >> >> > Ligniere made them for me and they were more like noodles than dumplings. >> >> >> >> Spaetle is/are like noodles to me. I think it is just the shape and size >> >> that determines noodle v. dumpling, maybe. >> >> KK> Well, shape and size is everything, isn't it? >> >> There are those who say size is everything. There are also those who >> say that anything more than a mouthful is wasted. KK> Of Spaetzle?! Of whatever you want. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 10:09:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VG9Ekq020345 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:09:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B537C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:36 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VG7a604101 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:36 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A544CE0244; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:32 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:07:32 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1517574271.20021031090732@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jam Master Jay In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 8:22 AM, Rashmi Murthy wrote: RM> Another one bites the dust... RM> King of Rock is one of my all-time faves. (Do you know RM> this one, AnnB? It's old, 1986 or so.) I just love it when the kids talk about 1986 tunes being "old". -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 10:24:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VGOpkq020428 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:24:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040EE3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:23:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3101241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:23:12 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VGNC606875 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:23:12 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-245.panax.com [63.163.41.245]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VGNBt01732 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:23:11 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:23:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <017501c280f1$6bc2d700$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Enjoyed the article. It brought back old times. I used >to follow this stuff pretty closely during those years. >Kept a folder of clippings , which I've since destroyed. > - D. M. I read it and enjoyed it also. Thank you, Natalie. Why did you follow it Doris? Did something similar happen to you? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 10:43:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VGhRkq020542 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:43:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040EFE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:41:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3102423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:41:49 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VGfn609515 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:41:49 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:41:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:44:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: clinton in hawaii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No other president ever...? "Bill Clinton came to Maui yesterday (for about 15 minutes) and even though you think you're blasé and jaded about these things, it really was quite exciting. "No US president that anyone could remember ever came here before, for any reason." alyec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 10:47:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VGlikq020581 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:47:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B5770@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:46:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3102679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:46:05 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VGjp610272 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:45:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:45:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC15EBF.8A2EBCF9@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:47:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: amusement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU These things go around the Internet for years. Don't know if this is an old or new one, but still it amuses me. alyce Metaphors and Similes found in High School Essays > >Her face was a perfect oval, like a circle that >had its two other sides >gently compressed by a Thigh Master. > >His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and >breaking alliances like >underpants in a dryer without Cling Free. > > He spoke with the wisdom that can only come >from experience, like a Guy >who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse >without one of those >boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the >country speaking at high >schools about the dangers of looking at a solar >eclipse without one of >those boxes with a pinhole in it. > > She grew on him like she was a colony of E. >coli and he was room- temperature Canadian beef. > > She had a deep, throaty, genuine laugh, like >that sound a dog makes >just before it throws up. > > Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever. > >He was as tall as a six-foot-three-inch tree. > >The revelation that his marriage of 30 years had >disintegrated because >of his wife's infidelity came as a rude shock, like >a surcharge at a >formerly surcharge-free ATM. > >The little boat gently drifted across the pond >exactly the way a bowling >ball wouldn't. (someone's been reading Hitchhiker's >Guide maybe?) > >McBride fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement >like a Hefty bag filled >with vegetable soup. > >The whole scene had an eerie, surreal quality, >like when you're on >vacation in another city and Jeopardy comes on >at 7:00 p.m. instead of >7:30. > >Her hair glistened in the rain like nose hair >after a sneeze. > >The hailstones leaped from the pavement, just >like maggots when you fry >them in hot grease. > >Long separated by cruel fate, the star-crossed >lovers raced across the >grassy field toward each other like two freight >trains, one having left >Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. traveling at 55 mph, the >other from Topeka at 4:19 >p.m. at a speed of 35 mph. > >They lived in a typical suburban neighborhood >with picket fences that >resembled Nancy Kerrigan's teeth. > >John and Mary had never met. They were like two >hummingbirds who had >also never met. > >He fell for her like his heart was a mob >informant and she was the East >River. > >Even in his last years, Grandpappy had a mind >like a steel trap, only >one that had been left out so long, it had rusted >shut. > >Shots rang out, as shots are wont to do. > >The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law >Phil. But unlike Phil, this >plan just might work. > >The young fighter had a hungry look, the kind >you get from not eating >for a while. > >"Oh, Jason, take me!"; she panted, her breasts >heaving like a college >freshman on $1-a-beer night. > >He was as lame as a duck. Not the metaphorical >lame duck, either, but a >real duck that was actually lame. Maybe from >stepping on a land mine or >something. > >The knife was as sharp as the tone used by Rep. >Sheila Jackson Lee >(D-Tex.) in her first several points of >parliamentary procedure made to >Rep. Henry Hyde (R-Ill. ) in the House Judiciary >Committee hearings on the >impeachment of President William Jefferson Clinton. > >The ballerina rose gracefully en pointe and >extended one slender leg >behind her, like a dog at a fire hydrant. > >It was an American tradition, like fathers >chasing kids around with >power tools. > >He was deeply in love. When she spoke, he >thought he heard bells, as if >she were a garbage truck backing up. > >She was as easy as the TV Guide crossword. > >Her eyes were like limpid pools, only they had >forgotten to put in any >pH cleanser. > >She walked into my office like a centipede with >98 missing legs. > >Her voice had that tense, grating quality, like >a generation thermal >paper fax machine that needed a band tightened. > >It hurt the way your tongue hurts after you >accidentally staple it to >the wall. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 11:00:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VH0okq020729 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:00:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040F1BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:59:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3102839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:59:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LJFnPQQwLGJrgOwoREF2r4OUcrN6WOva@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VGnB610827 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:49:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE112FDF8 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E70DA7C0D; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:49:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: amusement In-Reply-To: <3DC15EBF.8A2EBCF9@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 31, 2002 11:47:59 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:49:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031164910.E70DA7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > These things go around the Internet for years. Don't know if this is an > old or new one, but still it amuses me. These sound like Bulwer-Lytton entries that didn't make the cut. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 11:42:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VHgXkq021295 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:42:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B5ED5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:40:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:40:54 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHes622754 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:40:54 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021031174047.BWWS27144.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:40:47 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031084931.02ab3c30@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:40:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap writes, >This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No >other president ever...? FDR was the first in 1934 (although of course Hawaii wasn't US back then) Clinton: August 1995 (for 50th anniversary of V-J day) Reagan: April 26, 1986 Clinton made his 7th visit in November 2000, laying over for two days on his way to Asia. ObQuayle, during a visit to Hawaii in 1989: "Hawaii has always been a very pivotal role in the Pacific. It is in the Pacific. It is a part of the United States that is an island that is right here." Didn't look for more. Speaking of Hawaii (kind of), I'm currently stuck on the soundtrack from Lilo & Stitch. It's got an enchanting adaptation of a traditional Hawaiian chant done with lush but not overbearing production, He Mele No Lilo . The A*Teens, Wynona, and of course Elvis, aren't bad either. Elvis is still electrifying; one hears so many little poorly-done pop culture references to his songs that's it's a bit startling to hear the real thing and remember how good it is. Other L&S links: http://www.alohajoemagazine.com/letterstoeditor.htm (authenticity) http://laughingplace.com/Info-ID-Movie-Stitch-ProdNotes.asp (long production notes, a little about finding the music) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 11:45:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VHj9kq021342 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:45:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F59B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:43:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:43:30 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHhU623505 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:43:30 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:43:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC16C2C.BD2A6C70@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:45:16 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <3DC0A0CA.378E2D32@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's not up to the hostess, imho, to warn all guests > that there will be a xmas tree present. Ditto perfume. Etc. etc. And perhaps a guest might arrive wearing a feather boa. Who would know in advance? Better include a dress code in the invitation: No wool, no latex, no fur, no silk, and no that may affect an allergic person. Or perhaps a special invitation: Hi! I'm having a great party on Saturday. But I am not inviting you if you are allergic to anything at all. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 11:52:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VHqHkq021444 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:52:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F640@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:50:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:50:38 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHob625001 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:50:37 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9VHoab03786 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:50:36 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:51:33 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC0E105.22716.2A8AB2@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 31 Oct 2002 at 11:44, alyce cresap wrote: > This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No > other president ever...? I really don't know offhand, but it could be true of Maui, particularly when qualified with the phrase "No US president that anyone could remember. . . . " Even FDR seems not to have gone to Maui in 1934 when he had his own ship to take him wherever he wanted to go. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 11:53:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VHrNkq021462 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:53:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F65C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:51:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:51:44 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHpi625213 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:51:44 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:51:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC16E32.60BC2540@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:53:54 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031084931.02ab3c30@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > alyce cresap writes, > > >This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No > >other president ever...? > > FDR was the first in 1934 (although of course Hawaii wasn't US back then) > > Clinton: August 1995 (for 50th anniversary of V-J day) > Reagan: April 26, 1986 > > Clinton made his 7th visit in November 2000, laying over for two days on > his way to Asia. > Maybe she meant Maui specifically? Maybe the presidents all went elsewhere? Or maybe no one she knows can remember back as far as 2000! alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 11:54:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VHs8kq021466 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:54:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040F66F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:52:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:52:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:epw64S1Hw5sNs+NZoJlw1qwd+LZvR/Me@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHgS623321 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:42:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A887A2FE34 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:42:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 66AE27C10; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:42:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031084931.02ab3c30@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Oct 31, 2002 9:40:20 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:42:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031174222.66AE27C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > alyce cresap writes, > > >This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No > >other president ever...? > > FDR was the first in 1934 (although of course Hawaii wasn't US back then) > > Clinton: August 1995 (for 50th anniversary of V-J day) > Reagan: April 26, 1986 > > Clinton made his 7th visit in November 2000, laying over for two days on > his way to Asia. > > ObQuayle, during a visit to Hawaii in 1989: "Hawaii has always been a very > pivotal role in the Pacific. It is in the Pacific. It is a part of the > United States that is an island that is right here." > > Didn't look for more. Did they go to Maui? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 11:58:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VHwCkq021508 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:58:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6099@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:56:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:56:29 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHuT626142 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:56:29 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust137.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.139]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC16F51.2DCD0BA7@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:58:41 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: modern medicine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > is sometimes wonderful. I saw my surgeon today. He has removed all > bandages (saying to use a compression wrap only when the knee is sore, and > only if I want to), and I am free to shower, Glad to have this positive report. But it reminds me, is Theo off with leg pains again? It's been a few days since we've heard from her. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:00:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI0gkq021550 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:00:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040F6F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:59:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109435 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:59:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHn3624715 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:49:03 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9VHn2VO000964 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:49:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:49:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: modern medicine In-Reply-To: <3DC0F3FA.19601.284FF4@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >How nice that you'll be able to perform uncrutched! I love the Faure - have sung it >many times. It has such a wonderful dreamy mysterious quality. I especially love the >Sanctus with its modulating dialogue between the men's and women's voices. >mmmmm Are you doing it with full orchestra? Yes - well, depending on how you define - there are about 20 people in the orchestra - maybe a few more. We sing the various sections at appropriate times in the service, so that it goes throughout the service. We in the choir rehearsed with the orchestra last night, will rehearse alone on Sat. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:01:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI1Skq021556 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:01:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040F701@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:59:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:59:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHnn624852 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:49:49 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9VHnmVO001688 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:49:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:49:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <3DC0F7F9.32026.37EBC7@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >> > I propose a menu for a words-l dinner with LOTS of animals sniffing >> > around. What would we serve? >> >> I'll bring the Kibbles. >> >> Ann > >I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who would have >said "I'll bring the kibble" ? No kibbles and bits>? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:03:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI36kq021584 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:03:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F72A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:01:27 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHpR625133 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:51:27 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9VHpOVO003253 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:51:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:51:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <952601390.20021031074439@gailndan.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dan Lester wrote: >BKD> And here we are, full circle. > >Isn't that the norm for this ? Various folks staggering >around in circles, bumping into each other, occasionally hitting or >hugging each other, but always coming back to the same place for a >refreshing adult beverage and some food of either vegetarian or >carnivore persuasion. An excellent summary! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:03:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI3tkq021595 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:03:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B614B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:02:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:02:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:U7GDbxf/APXjfxGyoMO9phBU3dA+UoRJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VHqG625364 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:52:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8282E2FE67 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4A9257C16; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC16C2C.BD2A6C70@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 31, 2002 12:45:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031175215.4A9257C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Better include a dress code in the invitation: No wool, no > latex, no fur, no silk, and no that may affect an allergic > person. I have received party invitations that are very specific. Like no perfume. > Or perhaps a special invitation: > Hi! > I'm having a great party on Saturday. But I am not inviting you if you > are allergic to anything at all. If people are that allergic, generally you know before you invite them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:04:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI4Tkq021600 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6165@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:02:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:02:50 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI2n627532 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:02:49 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA19985 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:02:49 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id DBD0E38699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:02:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:02:48 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021031180248.GA25690@pobox.com> References: <002801c280b6$002abfc0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002801c280b6$002abfc0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:45:42PM +0530, Red wrote: > I'm surprised to hear you haven't heard the word footie,I'm in India,you > follow football? I haven't lived in India for 11 years, but I never followed football, and never heard the word "footie". I must come from sturdy low-class cricket-watching stock, ha ha ha ... complete with resentment against people who follow football and tennis and what not ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:04:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI4lkq021605 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040F74C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:08 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI37627599 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:07 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A056450356; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:02 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:03:01 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <5314503725.20021031110301@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031084931.02ab3c30@mail.istori.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031084931.02ab3c30@mail.istori.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 10:40 AM, Peter Kaminski wrote: PK> FDR was the first in 1934 (although of course Hawaii wasn't US back then) PK> Clinton: August 1995 (for 50th anniversary of V-J day) PK> Reagan: April 26, 1986 PK> Clinton made his 7th visit in November 2000, laying over for two days on PK> his way to Asia. The key, however, was that the bookseller was on Maui. Was it a first for that island? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:05:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI5Gkq021619 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:05:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F74E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:37 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI3a627630 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4UY2B02.E5F for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:01:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:07:56 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Enjoyed the article. It brought back old times. I used > >to follow this stuff pretty closely during those years. > >Kept a folder of clippings , which I've since destroyed. > > - D. M. And oddly, I, in my sole nod to the day's festivities, am wearing my Roswell Crash Recovery Team ID, which thus far exactly one person has noticed... JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:05:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI5ukq021626 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:05:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F765@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:04:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:04:17 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI4G627799 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:04:16 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A09D3E0344; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:04:13 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:04:02 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <13514564322.20021031110402@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <3DC16C2C.BD2A6C70@valstar.net> References: <3DC0A0CA.378E2D32@maynor.net> <3DC16C2C.BD2A6C70@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 10:45 AM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Natalie Maynor wrote: >> It's not up to the hostess, imho, to warn all guests >> that there will be a xmas tree present. Ditto perfume. Etc. etc. ac> And perhaps a guest might arrive wearing a feather boa. Who would know ac> in advance? Better include a dress code in the invitation: No wool, no ac> latex, no fur, no silk, and no that may affect an allergic ac> person. Or perhaps a special invitation: And what about those that are "morally allergic" to fur, leather, whatever else is the in-thing this week? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:06:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI6Gkq021636 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:06:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F76B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:04:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:04:37 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI4b627837 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:04:37 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA21368 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8493B38699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:04:36 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021031180436.GB25690@pobox.com> References: <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <20021031070441.A2314@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021031070441.A2314@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:04:41AM +0100, steph wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:00:02AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:00:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > = > Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest > = > rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy > = > = What cares a h4cqu3r for ratings based on this? > > You don't have a cat? > You don't vacuum with a hangover? > You don't have deep pile carpet and are a weak old lady? I don't have a cat, I never vacuum, and don't have a deep carpet nor am I yet a weak old lady. You sure you ARE talking about l33t haxx0rs? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:07:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI7ikq021644 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:07:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B61C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:05 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI64628086 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:04 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A10912038C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:01 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:05:58 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <2014680249.20021031110558@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 11:07 AM, John Williams wrote: JW> And oddly, I, in my sole nod to the day's festivities, am wearing my JW> Roswell Crash Recovery Team ID, which thus far exactly one person has JW> noticed... I'm in costume as a librarian. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:08:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI8Tkq021651 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:08:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040F7A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:50 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI6n628183 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:06:50 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA22674 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:06:49 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2737038699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:06:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:06:49 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021031180649.GC25690@pobox.com> References: <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071008.009fb2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071008.009fb2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:14:13AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > Hey, that's not funny. Especially the hangover bit. My powerful Dirt > Devil upright purchased at Sam's Club died a couple of weeks ago. I took > off my ear protectors and jumped with joy. The thing was so noisy that if > I happened to lean over to pick something off the rug while it was running, > the noise was physically painful. No hangover needed. That's why I bought > the ear protectors. Now that it has died I went to a local hardware store, > plugged in their Eureka to listen for myself before purchase, and found it > almost silent in comparison. I bought it. It does not have the suction. > But I don't care. I may be able to continue to hear into my 90s. With an apartment building etc, maybe there is a reason for "silent" devices. If you live in your own house, earplugs are the way to go. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:09:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VI9ikq021669 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:09:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B61F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:08:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:08:05 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI85628485 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:08:05 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9VI84G07917 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:08:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c28108$b48f3200$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:09:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Enjoyed the article. It brought back old times. I used > >to follow this stuff pretty closely during those years. > >Kept a folder of clippings , which I've since destroyed. > > - D. M. > > I read it and enjoyed it also. Thank you, Natalie. Why did you follow it > Doris? Did something similar happen to you? > > > --bonniev No. No experience, at least, that I could directly tie to a UFO or alien ship. I just always wished that I would see such a thing. Gene saw something strange in the air once, but not on the ground. And he's a non-believer in most unproven theories. During the years that I did a lot of air travel, I more than once sat with a pilot who, upon questioning, admitted he had seen strange things in the air that were not planes. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:10:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIARkq021681 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:10:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040F7D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:08:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:08:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI8m628712 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:08:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:08:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC17247.B1961A9C@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:11:19 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021031175215.4A9257C16@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I have received party invitations that are very specific. Like no > perfume. Once someone offered to drive me to a Mets-Cubs game in NY, and she asked that I not wear perfume in her car. Not that I used it very often, and especially not to ball games. That is my only brush with allergen-sensitivity and social occasions. Ken is allergic to cats, so I do not have cats. But that is a different matter entirely. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIBOkq021694 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6218@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:09:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:09:45 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VI9i628963 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:09:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9VI9hG10043 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:09:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:11:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No > other president ever...? > > "Bill Clinton came to Maui yesterday (for about 15 minutes) and even > though you think you're blasé and jaded about these things, it really > was quite exciting. > > "No US president that anyone could remember ever came here before, for > any reason." > > alyec Their 15 minutes of fame? I wonder where he went when he left there? How could anyone stay in Maui for 15 minutes? They would have to be insane. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:12:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VICHkq021705 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:12:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B622F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:10:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:10:37 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIAb629135 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:10:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:10:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC172B5.2C48E8D4@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:13:09 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > And oddly, I, in my sole nod to the day's festivities, am wearing my > Roswell Crash Recovery Team ID, which thus far exactly one person has > noticed... I covet your cap. I went to the doctor today and the nurse was dressed as a clown. Scared a little kid. Note: Gained one pound since two weeks ago. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:14:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIE9kq021718 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:14:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040F826@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:12:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:12:30 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VICU629501 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:12:30 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA26047 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:12:29 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 99A9338699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:12:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:12:29 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go google today! Message-ID: <20021031181229.GD25690@pobox.com> References: <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:09:17AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > I have the Google taskbar on my Internet Explorer. When you go in that > way, you don't see the holiday decorations. I had to type it in and then > I got the right page. This is a nonsense, madam. The home page is the first item on that "taskbar". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:14:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIEqkq021727 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:14:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F835@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:13:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:13:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIDC629630 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:13:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4UYIB01.V6F for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:10:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC173C0.29D9E549@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:17:36 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No > other president ever...? No, it's most definitely untrue. alyce, I'm beginning to have some serious doubts about these booksellers. > "Bill Clinton came to Maui yesterday (for about 15 minutes) and even > though you think you're blasé and jaded about these things, it really > was quite exciting. > > "No US president that anyone could remember ever came here before, for > any reason." Forgot Clinton coming when he was still in office already? Those lush tropical breezes must blow more than cares away. Now, FDR being first to visit in 1934 I can understand, but what about Nizon in 1972? Crimeny. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:16:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIGJkq021765 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:16:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F857@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:14:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111807 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:14:40 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIEe629837 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:14:40 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9VIEdG15918 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:14:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c28109$9fb7b220$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC15EBF.8A2EBCF9@valstar.net> Subject: Re: amusement Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:16:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > These things go around the Internet for years. Don't know if this is an > old or new one, but still it amuses me. > > alyce > > Metaphors and Similes found in High School Essays I had never seen this one before. It's hilarious. I found myself laughing out loud. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:18:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIIqkq021796 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:18:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040F894@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:17:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111997 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:17:13 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIHC630251 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:17:12 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA29495 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:17:12 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AC2E538699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:17:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:17:11 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021031181711.GE25690@pobox.com> References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182054.009f9830@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0723E.132C8A9A@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC0723E.132C8A9A@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 05:58:54PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > bonniev wrote: > > > > >I didn't interpret his "footie" to mean US football. > > > > Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. > > Good question. I don't know the answer to why I assumed he was a he. Do some research. Maybe we should ask Marie to do it From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:23:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VINlkq021845 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:23:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040F8F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:22:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3111600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:22:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BrgZ6G/tFe2M+YPk1fykIjTXQ5F4kw1U@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIC8629467 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:12:08 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE86D2FE1D for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 69FF97C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC172B5.2C48E8D4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 31, 2002 1:13: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:12:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031181207.69FF97C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > John Williams wrote: > > > > And oddly, I, in my sole nod to the day's festivities, am wearing my > > Roswell Crash Recovery Team ID, which thus far exactly one person has > > noticed... > > I covet your cap. I went to the doctor today and the nurse was dressed > as a clown. Scared a little kid. Note: Gained one pound since two weeks > ago. Woohoo! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:38:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIcDkq021987 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:38:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040FA3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:36:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:36:34 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIaX601442 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:36:33 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9VIaUb42664 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:36:30 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:37:27 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC0EBC7.16438.24109C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 31 Oct 2002 at 12:11, Doris Markland wrote: > wonder where he went when he > left there? How could anyone stay > in Maui for 15 minutes? They would > have to be insane. It was a one-day visit to campaign for the Democratic candidate for governor. He gave speeches in Honolulu and on Maui and the Big Island, then took of for, I think, Eugene, Oregon. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:39:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIdjkq021998 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:39:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6577@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:38:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:38:02 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIc2601832 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:38:02 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A886EA0280; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:37:58 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:37:58 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10616599849.20021031113758@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 11:11 AM, Doris Markland wrote: >> This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No >> other president ever...? >> >> "Bill Clinton came to Maui yesterday (for about 15 minutes) and even >> though you think you're blasé and jaded about these things, it really >> was quite exciting. >> >> "No US president that anyone could remember ever came here before, for >> any reason." >> >> alyec DM> Their 15 minutes of fame? DM> I wonder where he went when he DM> left there? How could anyone stay DM> in Maui for 15 minutes? On an Aloha flight that goes Honolulu to Kahului to Hilo, or similar? DM> They would DM> have to be insane. Agree. Can hardly wait for my two weeks there in Jan. DM> - D. M. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:39:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIdpkq022001 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:39:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040FA65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:38:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:38:12 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIcB601891 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:38:11 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g9VIcAb44116 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:38:10 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:39:05 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC0EC29.15334.258EEB@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC173C0.29D9E549@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 31 Oct 2002 at 11:17, John Williams wrote: > Now, FDR being first to > visit in 1934 I can understand, but what about Nizon in 1972? Can we include pre-presidents? William Howard Taft in 1905. Jimmy Carter lived here for several years while in the Navy. I'd be surprised if he didn't find some occasion to go to Maui even. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:41:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIf9kq022007 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:41:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040FA86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:30 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIdU602132 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:30 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A8DE1150244; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:26 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:39:26 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3616687875.20021031113926@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <3DC173C0.29D9E549@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> <3DC173C0.29D9E549@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 11:17 AM, John Williams wrote: >> "Bill Clinton came to Maui yesterday (for about 15 minutes) and even >> though you think you're blasé and jaded about these things, it really >> was quite exciting. >> >> "No US president that anyone could remember ever came here before, for >> any reason." JW> Forgot Clinton coming when he was still in office already? Those lush JW> tropical breezes must blow more than cares away. Now, FDR being first to JW> visit in 1934 I can understand, but what about Nizon in 1972? Crimeny. But, the question is still whether any of them went to Maui? -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:47:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIlPkq022090 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:47:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B666E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:45:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:45:46 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIjj603286 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:45:45 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9VIk7503480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:46:07 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:46:07 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021031194607.A3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <002801c280b6$002abfc0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021031180248.GA25690@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031180248.GA25690@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:02:48PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:02:48PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:45:42PM +0530, Red wrote: = > I'm surprised to hear you haven't heard the word footie,I'm in India,you = > follow football? = = I haven't lived in India for 11 years, but I never followed = football, and never heard the word "footie". I must come from = sturdy low-class cricket-watching stock, ha ha ha ... complete = with resentment against people who follow football and tennis = and what not ... There're a couple of brits at work, in their twenties. They call it footie. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:53:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIrKkq022116 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:53:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B66DE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:51:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:51:41 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIpe604056 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:51:40 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9VIq2m03497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:02 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021031195202.B3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <20021031070441.A2314@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021031180436.GB25690@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031180436.GB25690@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:04:36PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:04:36PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:04:41AM +0100, steph wrote: = > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:00:02AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = > = On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:00:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: = > = > Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest = > = > rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy = > = = > = What cares a h4cqu3r for ratings based on this? = > = > You don't have a cat? = > You don't vacuum with a hangover? = > You don't have deep pile carpet and are a weak old lady? = = I don't have a cat, I never vacuum, and don't have a deep = carpet nor am I yet a weak old lady. You sure you ARE talking = about l33t haxx0rs? Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood the question. Why did you throw those guys in there anyway. K*R3z's not a one anyway. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:55:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VItCkq022125 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:55:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040FBAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:53:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:53:33 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIrW604268 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:53:32 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9VIrsv03506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:53:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:53:54 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021031195354.C3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071008.009fb2d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031180649.GC25690@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031180649.GC25690@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:06:49PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = With an apartment building etc, maybe there is a reason for "silent" = devices. If you live in your own house, earplugs are the way to go. I'm special. None of those ear-y thingys will stay in my ears anyway. When I go to the doctor, sometimes they have to use the little kid ear nipple whatsis to look in my ears. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:57:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIvBkq022136 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:57:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040FBC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:55:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:55:31 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VItV604466 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:55:31 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021031185525.EJOE8743.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:55:25 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031102832.02fe0d00@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:55:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <20021031174222.66AE27C10@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031084931.02ab3c30@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Did they go to Maui? Ah, sorry -- tricked by the subject line. Jimmy Carter was there in 1985 at least, but not necessarily on a high-profile trip. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:58:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIwEkq022144 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:58:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040FBDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:56:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:56:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Jrxx51SfbEFVKd+jeDvlp/5SRpskgDoZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIkY603414 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:46:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D782FE46 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 01A9E7C0E; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:46:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <20021031194607.A3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Oct 31, 2002 7:46: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:46:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031184633.01A9E7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph said: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:02:48PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:45:42PM +0530, Red wrote: > = > I'm surprised to hear you haven't heard the word footie,I'm in India,you > = > follow football? > = > = I haven't lived in India for 11 years, but I never followed > = football, and never heard the word "footie". I must come from > = sturdy low-class cricket-watching stock, ha ha ha ... complete > = with resentment against people who follow football and tennis > = and what not ... > > There're a couple of brits at work, in their twenties. They call > it footie. I guess this means that Tushar is showing his age. HA! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 12:59:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VIxTkq022163 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:59:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040FBFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:57:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115060 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:57:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIvn604741 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:57:49 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-3.panax.com [63.163.41.3]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIvmt01664 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:57:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:57:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Go google today! In-Reply-To: <20021031181229.GD25690@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:09:17AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > I have the Google taskbar on my Internet Explorer. When you go in that > > way, you don't see the holiday decorations. I had to type it in and then > > I got the right page. > >This is a nonsense, madam. The home page is the first item on that >"taskbar". I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:03:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJ3ckq022213 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:03:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040FC56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:01:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:01:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJ1x605435 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:01:59 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-238.panax.com [63.163.41.238]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJ1vt02699 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:01:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031140113.00b4db70@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:01:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports In-Reply-To: <13514564322.20021031110402@gailndan.com> References: <3DC16C2C.BD2A6C70@valstar.net> <3DC0A0CA.378E2D32@maynor.net> <3DC16C2C.BD2A6C70@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:04 AM 10/31/2002 -0700, dan wrote: >ac> And perhaps a guest might arrive wearing a feather boa. Who would know >ac> in advance? Better include a dress code in the invitation: No wool, no >ac> latex, no fur, no silk, and no that may affect an allergic >ac> person. Or perhaps a special invitation: > > And what about those that are "morally allergic" to fur, > leather, whatever else is the in-thing this week? Let 'em starve. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:05:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJ5ckq022230 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:05:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040FC7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:03:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:03:59 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJ3x605644 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:03:59 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:03:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC17F2F.9A3C3BE@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:06:23 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: [Fwd: Re: never to maui Clinton's visit] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: never to maui Clinton's visit Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:18:11 -1000 From: "susan halas" To: "alyce cresap" eferences: <009601c2589a$25718640$599d4b40@pavilion> <3DC16EC7.A7F632F1@valstar.net> alyce, other presidents have been to hawaii (the island state) no other president has ever come to maui. sh - alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:11:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJBZkq022263 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:11:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B68D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:09:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:09:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LKsmLqgRr+Q0/nHUCIuMmZX4mN8a/N8Z@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VIxt605072 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:59:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF3C2FE4A for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 31C637C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:59:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031102832.02fe0d00@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Oct 31, 2002 10:55:16 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:59:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031185955.31C637C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Karen Kay writes, > >Did they go to Maui? > > Ah, sorry -- tricked by the subject line. I love it when you're human.:) > Jimmy Carter was there in 1985 at least, but not necessarily on a > high-profile trip. But that *was* nearly 20 years ago. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:12:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJC7kq022268 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:12:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B68E4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:10:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:10:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:SJ+Xq6nXvM0lnMR0v3w6aFIc4O9u9q0U@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJ0R605227 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:00:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64EF82FE58 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 31C037C14; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:00:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Go google today!4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Oct 31, 2002 1:57:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:00:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031190027.31C037C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:09:17AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > > I have the Google taskbar on my Internet Explorer. When you go in that > > > way, you don't see the holiday decorations. I had to type it in and then > > > I got the right page. > > > >This is a nonsense, madam. The home page is the first item on that > >"taskbar". > > I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? If a plain home page comes us, then yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:15:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJFakq022317 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:15:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040FD83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:13:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:13:32 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJDV607651 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:13:31 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:13:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC18174.1548E20D@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:16:04 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: virtual haunted house Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.cyberhaunt.com/site/flash/mansion.html a little slow to load (for me), but then I only get 28.8 service (despite my faster modem). -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:19:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJJokq022338 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:19:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0040FE17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:18:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:18:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJIA609196 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:18:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:18:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1828B.C45AACCA@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:20:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go google today! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? Hit the reload. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:20:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJKwkq022351 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:20:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040FE2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:19:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:19:19 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJJI609398 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:19:18 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9VJJed03681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:19:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:19:40 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021031201940.A3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021031194607.A3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021031184633.01A9E7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031184633.01A9E7C0E@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:46:33AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I guess this means that Tushar is showing his age. HA! = = Karen I was in a workshop at work yesterday and was talking about how two of my bosses this year have been seven to ten years younger than me, and the woman leading the workshop said, "And they were like how old, 15?" So I just smiled and said, "Thank you". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:23:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJNRkq022366 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:23:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040FE5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:21:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:21:47 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJLk609779 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:21:46 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9VJM8v03698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:22:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:22:08 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go google today! Message-ID: <20021031202208.B3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031181229.GD25690@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus>; from bonniev@PANAX.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:57:41PM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:57:41PM -0500, bonniev wrote: = >On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:09:17AM -0500, bonniev wrote: = > > I have the Google taskbar on my Internet Explorer. When you go in that = > > way, you don't see the holiday decorations. I had to type it in and then = > > I got the right page. = > = >This is a nonsense, madam. The home page is the first item on that = >"taskbar". = = I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? There's nothing there now. At least not looking from here. We had lots of pumpkins, and pumpkin things to eat in the cantine today. But no pie. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:25:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJPDkq022375 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:25:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0040FE8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:23:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:23:34 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJNX610034 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:23:33 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4V1RL01.D61 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC1843A.E247239D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:54 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I wonder where he went when he > left there? How could anyone stay > in Maui for 15 minutes? They would > have to be insane. Perhaps what he came to Maui to do only took him fifteen minutes. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:25:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJPUkq022378 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:25:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0040FE98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:23:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117882 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:23:51 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJNo610063 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:23:50 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g9VJOCA03711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:24:12 +0100 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:24:12 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go google today!4 Message-ID: <20021031202412.C3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031190027.31C037C14@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031190027.31C037C14@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:00:27AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? = = If a plain home page comes us, then yes. = = Karen It is not in my cache. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:31:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJVckq022419 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:31:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6C1A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3118309 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJTw610963 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4V22A01.16D for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:46 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC185BF.35FDDEBE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:34:23 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <2014680249.20021031110558@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > I'm in costume as a librarian. Sensible shoes, dowdy dress, pencils stuck in bunned hair, and reading glasses on a chain? We had one do that one year. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:39:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJdpkq022484 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00410041@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3118256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fennGA6nr+pNK7L2HFrTm8c+WgqaCIlE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJSC610808 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:28:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E8E2FDEC for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:28:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6FC357C0A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:28:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Go google today! In-Reply-To: <20021031202208.B3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Oct 31, 2002 8:22: 8 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:28:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031192811.6FC357C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph said: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:57:41PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > = >On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:09:17AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > = > > I have the Google taskbar on my Internet Explorer. When you go in that > = > > way, you don't see the holiday decorations. I had to type it in and then > = > > I got the right page. > = > > = >This is a nonsense, madam. The home page is the first item on that > = >"taskbar". > = > = I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? > > There's nothing there now. At least not looking from here. We > had lots of pumpkins, and pumpkin things to eat in the cantine > today. But no pie. Does google know what country you're in? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:40:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJelkq022494 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:40:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00410050@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3118288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jS/hPiItopStNTwE3avKrIks1YHyeamT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJT7610888 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:29:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF0E2FDEC for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5334B7C09; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:29:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Go google today!4 In-Reply-To: <20021031202412.C3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Oct 31, 2002 8:24:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:29:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031192906.5334B7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph said: > = > > = > I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? > = > = If a plain home page comes us, then yes. Up, up. Damn typos. > = Karen > > It is not in my cache. Then The Great God Google *does* know where you live... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:41:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJfbkq022498 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:41:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6D2E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJdw612944 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA19491 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E70A938699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:39:56 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021031193956.GC4573@pobox.com> References: <20021031044815.9E0187C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031050049.9D69E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <20021031060002.GA10100@pobox.com> <20021031070441.A2314@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021031180436.GB25690@pobox.com> <20021031195202.B3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021031195202.B3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:52:02PM +0100, steph wrote: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:04:36PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:04:41AM +0100, steph wrote: > = > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:00:02AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = > = On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:00:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > = > = > Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest > = > = > rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy > = > = > = > = What cares a h4cqu3r for ratings based on this? > = > > = > You don't have a cat? > = > You don't vacuum with a hangover? > = > You don't have deep pile carpet and are a weak old lady? > = > = I don't have a cat, I never vacuum, and don't have a deep > = carpet nor am I yet a weak old lady. You sure you ARE talking > = about l33t haxx0rs? > > Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood the question. Why did you throw > those guys in there anyway. K*R3z's not a one anyway. Maybe not, but anybody that broke better become one soon. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:43:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJhNkq022511 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:43:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00410090@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:41:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:41:43 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJfh613453 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:41:43 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA20444 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:41:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A7C7E38699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:41:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:41:42 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor Message-ID: <20021031194142.GD4573@pobox.com> References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <2014680249.20021031110558@gailndan.com> <3DC185BF.35FDDEBE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC185BF.35FDDEBE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:34:23PM -0700, John Williams wrote: > > Sensible shoes, dowdy dress, pencils stuck in bunned hair, and reading > glasses on a chain? *swoon* From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:44:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJiDkq022517 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:44:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6D84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:42:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:42:33 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJgX613660 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:42:33 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA20975 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:42:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 73E6338699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:42:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:42:32 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go google today! Message-ID: <20021031194232.GE4573@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 01:57:41PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > >> I have the Google taskbar on my Internet Explorer. When you go in that > >> way, you don't see the holiday decorations. I had to type it in and then > >> I got the right page. > > > >This is a nonsense, madam. The home page is the first item on that > >"taskbar". > > I swear to God it is true. Could it be because the home page is cached? I have given up on your constant problems which nobody else has. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:47:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJlEkq022554 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:47:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004100F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:45:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119750 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:45:34 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJjY614289 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:45:34 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9VJjXG12267 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:45:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007c01c28116$53239660$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DC1843A.E247239D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Re: Re: clinton in hawaii Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:47:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I wonder where he went when he > > left there? How could anyone stay > > in Maui for 15 minutes? They would > > have to be insane. > > Perhaps what he came to Maui to do only took him fifteen minutes. > > JMW > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:55:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJtEkq022636 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:55:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004101AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:53:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:53:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f106.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.106]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJrY615773 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:53:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:53:29 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:53:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: pox on both the parties Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:53:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2002 19:53:29.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[2EE9CB60:01C28117] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know both sides raise loads of cash with the party in power getting the lion's share but I sure didn't expect this much discrepancy. A good candidate for comparison on the other side would be Gray Davis, I suppose, but the article didn't have numbers for California. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43415-2002Oct30.html Excerpts: The pattern of corporate giving in Florida is striking. The Alliance for Quality Nursing Home Care, a coalition of large nursing home operators, has given $300,000 to the GOP and $50,000 to the Democrats, according to campaign finance reports. The Associated Industries Insurance Company gave the GOP $185,000 and none to Democrats; AT&T gave the Republican Party $325,000 and Democrats $130,000; Disney Worldwide Services donated $210,000 to the GOP, $75,000 to Democrats; BellSouth gave $310,000 to Republicans, $60,000 to Democrats; Blue Cross-Blue Shield, $125,000 for the GOP, $15,000 for Democrats; the Florida Medical PAC, $260,000 for the GOP, $15,000 for Democrats. Florida's Republican Party, fortified by Gov. Jeb Bush's aggressive fundraising strategy, has collected three times more money from state contractors and state-regulated industries than has the Democratic Party, boosting Bush's reelection bid and other GOP campaigns for Tuesday's elections. _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:55:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJtNkq022640 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:55:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004101B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:53:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:53:43 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJrh615809 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:53:43 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:53:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC18ACF.B40612CB@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:55:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go google today! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031144650.845407C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031100831.009fe7a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031181229.GD25690@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031135706.00a032f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021031202208.B3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > > > There's nothing there now. At least not looking from here. Well, I see Halloween stuff from here. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:57:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJvJkq022662 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:57:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6F09@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:55:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:55:40 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJtd616464 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:55:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:55:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC18B4E.6D3F37E0@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:58:06 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DC1843A.E247239D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <007c01c28116$53239660$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > > I wonder where he went when he > > > left there? How could anyone stay > > > in Maui for 15 minutes? They would > > > have to be insane. > > > > Perhaps what he came to Maui to do only took him fifteen minutes. > > > > JMW Doris--why do you suppose that I keep getting mail from you that contains only another person's words? It happens a lot. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 13:59:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VJxIkq022678 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:59:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6F46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:57:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:57:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GaaCiMq4ktXlYeFIfqFzC32WSxLYPsqy@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJlc614611 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:47:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C712FE18 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 21A267C10; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:47:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! In-Reply-To: <20021031193956.GC4573@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Oct 31, 2002 1:39:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:47:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031194738.21A267C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:52:02PM +0100, steph wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:04:36PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > > = On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 07:04:41AM +0100, steph wrote: > > = > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:00:02AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > > = > = On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:00:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > = > = > Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest > > = > = > rated vacuum cleaner. It's easier to use and less noisy > > = > = > > = > = What cares a h4cqu3r for ratings based on this? > > = > > > = > You don't have a cat? > > = > You don't vacuum with a hangover? > > = > You don't have deep pile carpet and are a weak old lady? > > = > > = I don't have a cat, I never vacuum, and don't have a deep > > = carpet nor am I yet a weak old lady. You sure you ARE talking > > = about l33t haxx0rs? > > > > Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood the question. Why did you throw > > those guys in there anyway. K*R3z's not a one anyway. > > Maybe not, but anybody that broke better become one soon. I'm too old and girly to be a l33t h4cqu3r. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:00:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VK0fkq022716 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:00:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B6F88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:59:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:58:58 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f218.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.218]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VJww617299 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:58:58 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:58:52 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:58:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:58:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2002 19:58:52.0599 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFBA4C70:01C28117] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie: > >MA>I can only guess the Red Devils (Man U.). > >Bingo! > >Red Have you come across -My Name is Red-, by Orhan Pamuk? >I RULE! Wow! Two Man U. bingos in one week. You da man. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:15:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKFTkq025592 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:15:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00410382@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:13:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3121996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:13:49 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKDn619620 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:13:49 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEF91B4023E; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:13:45 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:13:44 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <16322346342.20021031131344@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC185BF.35FDDEBE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <2014680249.20021031110558@gailndan.com> <3DC185BF.35FDDEBE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 12:34 PM, John Williams wrote: JW> Dan Lester wrote: >> I'm in costume as a librarian. JW> Sensible shoes, dowdy dress, pencils stuck in bunned hair, and reading JW> glasses on a chain? We had one do that one year. Long sleeved shirt, no tie, blue jeans, suspenders, nikes on my feet. Usual underwear. Glasses are on a chain so I don't lose them when I take them off to read fine print. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:16:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKGCkq026559 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:16:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00410395@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:14:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122091 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:14:30 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKEU619839 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:14:30 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:14:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC18FBE.3A1A1D6@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:17:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pox on both the parties References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > I know both sides raise loads of cash with the party in power > getting the lion's share but I sure didn't expect this much > discrepancy. A good candidate for comparison on the other > side would be Gray Davis, I suppose, but the article didn't > have numbers for California. > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43415-2002Oct30.html > > Excerpts: > > The pattern of corporate giving in Florida is striking. But not surprising. > > The Associated Industries Insurance Company gave the GOP $185,000 > and none to Democrats; This, especially, is not surprising. This is because Bush is pushing for his "Terrorist Insurance" bill, which will have the government paying part of the insurance premiums for construction sites and commercial real estate of all sorts that might be a target for terrorism. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:20:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKKPkq026590 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:20:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004103EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:18:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:18:45 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKIj620887 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:18:45 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:18:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC190BC.953F870C@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:21:16 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <2014680249.20021031110558@gailndan.com> <3DC185BF.35FDDEBE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <16322346342.20021031131344@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > Long sleeved shirt, no tie, blue jeans, suspenders, nikes on my feet. > Usual underwear. Glasses are on a chain so I don't lose them when I > take them off to read fine print. That is how the farmers of G'town dress. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:25:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKPskq026642 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:25:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B72BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:24:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:24:14 -0500 Received: from milhouse.strongsecure.com (milhouse.strongsecure.com [12.159.48.200]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKOE621974 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:24:14 -0500 Received: from 132.178.209.53 [132.178.209.53] by milhouse.strongsecure.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A16A4102C6; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:24:10 EST Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:24:09 -0700 From: Dan Lester X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Educational Reply-To: dan@gailndan.com Organization: Gail and Dan X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <222971661.20021031132409@gailndan.com> To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re[2]: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC190BC.953F870C@valstar.net> References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031112223.00a03b40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC1717C.BE9D8539@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <2014680249.20021031110558@gailndan.com> <3DC185BF.35FDDEBE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <16322346342.20021031131344@gailndan.com> <3DC190BC.953F870C@valstar.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 10/31/2002, 1:21 PM, alyce cresap wrote: ac> Dan Lester wrote: >> Long sleeved shirt, no tie, blue jeans, suspenders, nikes on my feet. >> Usual underwear. Glasses are on a chain so I don't lose them when I >> take them off to read fine print. ac> That is how the farmers of G'town dress. Guess I'm in good company, then. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:30:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKUbkq026716 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00410542@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:28:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3123170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:28:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tusRIPG311AW/ptHLI638bxoMydaabK9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKSu622892 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:28:57 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8212FE14 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2DC8D2B57A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:28:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084C02B576 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:28:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:28:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <20021031194607.A3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > = I haven't lived in India for 11 years, but I never followed > = football, and never heard the word "footie". I must come from > = sturdy low-class cricket-watching stock, ha ha ha ... complete > = with resentment against people who follow football and tennis > = and what not ... > There're a couple of brits at work, in their twenties. They call > it footie. Ha ha ha ha Tushar is an old fart! ha ha ha ha doesn't know the lingo. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:30:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKUbkr026716 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00410543@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:28:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3123177 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:28:58 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f129.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.129]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKSw622901 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:28:58 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:28:52 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:28:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:28:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2002 20:28:52.0641 (UTC) FILETIME=[20A2E910:01C2811C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Tushar Samant >On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 05:58:54PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > bonniev wrote: > > > >I didn't interpret his "footie" to mean US football. > > > > > > Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. > > > > Good question. I don't know the answer to why I assumed he was a he. > >Do some research. Maybe we should ask Marie to do it I assumed Red was a he as well, even though I am a "Red." What do you thik is the dependent variable? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:41:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKfBkq026809 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:41:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041064F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:39:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3123964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:39:31 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKdVJ24853 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:39:31 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-238.panax.com [63.163.41.238]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKdUt25340 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:39:30 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031153838.00b46008@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:39:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: pox on both the parties In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:53 PM 10/31/2002 +0000, rashmi wrote: >Florida's Republican Party, fortified by Gov. Jeb Bush's aggressive >fundraising strategy, has collected three times more money from >state contractors and state-regulated industries than has the >Democratic Party, boosting Bush's reelection bid and other >GOP campaigns for Tuesday's elections. Jeb needs all that money to "maintain" the voting machines. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKiHkq026836 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:44:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00410696@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:42:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3123472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:42:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hVfgc0BsHetDx7eaHsztJgC1l3kf7FlW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKWb623601 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:32:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB992FE24 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A7CDA7C10; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <222971661.20021031132409@gailndan.com> from Dan Lester at "Oct 31, 2002 1:24: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031203236.A7CDA7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester said: > 10/31/2002, 1:21 PM, alyce cresap wrote: > > ac> Dan Lester wrote: > >> Long sleeved shirt, no tie, blue jeans, suspenders, nikes on my feet. > >> Usual underwear. Glasses are on a chain so I don't lose them when I > >> take them off to read fine print. > > ac> That is how the farmers of G'town dress. > > Guess I'm in good company, then. They wear Nikes, not boots? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:50:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKogkq026900 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:50:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004106FB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:49:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3124651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:49:02 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKn1J26626 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:49:01 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9VKn0G01227 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:49:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002001c2811f$31c29440$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC15DD2.E9F3472D@valstar.net> <000d01c28108$efafea00$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DC1843A.E247239D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <007c01c28116$53239660$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DC18B4E.6D3F37E0@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: clinton in hawaii Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:50:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris--why do you suppose that I keep getting mail from you that > contains only another person's words? It happens a lot. > > alyce It's something I'm doing, but can't imagine just how or why. Will be more observing to see how I goofed. Obviously hitting the send button when I meant to hit something else. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 14:55:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VKthkq026944 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:55:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00410769@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:54:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3125084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:54:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:z7v0HonOA0pFPbo3vUod7G4XLXYeVZw/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VKs2J27851 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:54:02 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AA32FDF9 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id DF0F02B58E; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B5C2B57A for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:54:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:53:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jam Master Jay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > King of Rock is one of my all-time faves. (Do you know > this one, AnnB? It's old, 1986 or so.) No, don't know it but will look, thanks Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 15:47:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VLlvkq027514 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:47:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00410CAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:46:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:46:17 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VLkHJ08244 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:46:17 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA28777 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:46:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 24EB038699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:46:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:46:15 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021031214615.GC27602@pobox.com> References: <20021031194607.A3450@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 12:28:55PM -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: > > = I haven't lived in India for 11 years, but I never followed > > = football, and never heard the word "footie". I must come from > > = sturdy low-class cricket-watching stock, ha ha ha ... complete > > = with resentment against people who follow football and tennis > > = and what not ... > > There're a couple of brits at work, in their twenties. They call > > it footie. > > Ha ha ha ha Tushar is an old fart! ha ha ha ha doesn't know the lingo. So? I could understand it instantly and that's all that matters. On another note, I knew the term "footer", but that's just so LIKE THAT ... I mean Eton and Harrow and what ho old chap ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 15:48:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VLmZkq027527 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:48:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B7D34@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:46:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:46:55 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VLksJ08318 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:46:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA29099 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:46:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1D96F38699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:46:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:46:54 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021031214653.GD27602@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:28:52PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > >From: Tushar Samant > >On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 05:58:54PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> bonniev wrote: > >> > >I didn't interpret his "footie" to mean US football. > >> > > >> > Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. > >> > >> Good question. I don't know the answer to why I assumed he was a he. > > > >Do some research. Maybe we should ask Marie to do it > > I assumed Red was a he as well, even though I am a "Red." What do you thik > is the dependent variable? I thought I saw a male name in the from address. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 15:50:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VLoTkq027553 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:50:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B7D52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:48:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:48:49 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VLmmV08590 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:48:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC19A7D.47A2F0E7@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:02:53 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <20021031203236.A7CDA7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > They wear Nikes, not boots? When they go to the p.o., I see Nikes. I suppose they wear boots in the field. At least one does have his glasses on a chain. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:02:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VM2Pkq027677 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:02:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00410EAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:00:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:00:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:EhmXgGA/NCFjKUcGBtJQ+OgON3GisZdG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VLoiV09436 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:50:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F2F2FE83 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0501F7C14; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:50:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC19A7D.47A2F0E7@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 31, 2002 4: 2:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:50:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031215043.0501F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > They wear Nikes, not boots? > > When they go to the p.o., I see Nikes. I suppose they wear boots in the > field. At least one does have his glasses on a chain. The MO farmers I used to see in Kirskville (that's Missouri, Natalie, not Mozambique) mostly wore boots to the Uptown Cafe for breakfast. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:05:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VM5okq027726 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:05:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00410EF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:04:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3133762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:04:09 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f76.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.76]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VM49V12129 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:04:09 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:04:03 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:04:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:04:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2002 22:04:03.0930 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CD473A0:01C28129] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Red >>I'm surprised to hear you haven't heard the word footie,I'm in India,you >follow football? Not really, I just know some stock answers. I like following David Beckham's hair styles. :-) Marie _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:23:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMN9kq027968 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:23:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041103E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:21:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3134874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:21:29 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMLSV14903 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:21:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.1]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4V00GG5A3QUV@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:21:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:22:44 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Parents To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC1AD34.2070407@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DC12042.2010201@swbell.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No, conferences were in the new cafeteria, which made them a big madhouse. But the school is old and has been added onto so many times that the chances of parents actually finding all the rooms wouldn't be that great. It's a big maze. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:29:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMTtkq028056 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:29:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004110B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:28:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3135185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:28:14 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMSDV15596 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:28:14 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4VABD02.26H for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:26:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC1AF82.852E7A40@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:32:34 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pox on both the parties References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > I know both sides raise loads of cash with the party in power > getting the lion's share but I sure didn't expect this much > discrepancy. A good candidate for comparison on the other > side would be Gray Davis, I suppose, but the article didn't > have numbers for California. Until recently the "Coin-operated Governor"'s campaign records were sealed under a court order, but he's long had a reputation as a fund-raiser par excellance. But, as I"ve complained before, publicly-funded campaigns ain't no day at the beach, either. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:31:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMVMkq028095 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:31:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004110C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:29:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3135248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:29:41 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMTfV15730 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:29:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:20:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1AD5D.3DCEC589@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:23:25 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: MONK! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tonight. ABC. Two hours long! 8 pm EST. Check your listings. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:37:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMbZkq028164 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:37:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004111AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:35:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3136761 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:35:28 -0500 Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMZSV17069 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:35:28 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.110.1af91f33 (4004) for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:35:22 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <110.1af91f33.2af30a2a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:35:22 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hamburger and Spencer Reports To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2002 11:41:56 AM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << Better include a dress code in the invitation: No wool, no latex, no fur, no silk, and no that may affect an allergic person. >> Why not have give each guest a cotton sheet to change into? Toga party! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:38:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMcEkq028180 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:38:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004111B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:36:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3136881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:36:33 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMaXV17466 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:36:33 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust199.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.201]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:26:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1AEC4.B5BE1BD@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:29:24 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <20021031215043.0501F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > The MO farmers I used to see in Kirskville (that's Missouri, Natalie, > not Mozambique) mostly wore boots to the Uptown Cafe for breakfast. Well, these are apple farmers. They are not out mucking in the barnyard. They just prune and have someone else pick. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:40:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMe0kq028190 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:40:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B84D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:38:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:38:20 -0500 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMcJV17833 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:38:19 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.1c2.e8db81 (4004) for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:38:10 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c2.e8db81.2af30ad2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:38:10 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Hey, Rita! To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/30/2002 11:27:39 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Kenmore (Sears) Progressive with Direct Drive 31912 is the highest rated vacuum cleaner. >> Yes, it's a nice one. The best of the Progressives with bags. It's beltless; uses two motors. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:42:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMg9kq028207 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:42:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004111EF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:40:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3135287 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:40:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ilG4vCaUBxSZTIeXOFKQyH8/dl1Gxtfz@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMURV15843 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:30:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3562F2FD67 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EE25E7C14; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: MONK! In-Reply-To: <3DC1AD5D.3DCEC589@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 31, 2002 5:23:25 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031223026.EE25E7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Tonight. ABC. Two hours long! 8 pm EST. Check your listings. 7pm here--I remembered. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:48:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMmSkq028262 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:48:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B854F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:46:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:46:44 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMkhV19233 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:46:43 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4VB6700.973 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:44:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC1B3D7.BF127318@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:51:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: MONK! References: <3DC1AD5D.3DCEC589@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Tonight. ABC. Two hours long! 8 pm EST. Check your listings. Thanks, alyce! I was going to say something but forgot. A repeat of the pilot. "My husband was almost killed and you send us The RAINMAN?" JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:49:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMnvkq028271 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:49:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041125F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:48:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:48:16 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMmGV19407 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:48:16 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021031224811.MCKM16414.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:48:11 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031115936.02fdbd20@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:47:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii In-Reply-To: <20021031185955.31C637C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031102832.02fe0d00@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >I love it when you're human.:) Me, too. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:50:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMo1kq028275 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:50:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00411261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:48:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:48:20 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+e8BfZkgmpFHsL/T5ycQsCgrNPsWJTF8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMcKV17841 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:38:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1992FD67 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5D29B7C0A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC1AEC4.B5BE1BD@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Oct 31, 2002 5:29:24 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031223819.5D29B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > The MO farmers I used to see in Kirskville (that's Missouri, Natalie, > > not Mozambique) mostly wore boots to the Uptown Cafe for breakfast. > > Well, these are apple farmers. They are not out mucking in the barnyard. > They just prune and have someone else pick. Ah. Nice life.:) I have to say that one thing I miss about New York is the apples. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:51:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMpSkq028283 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:51:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411271@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:49:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137100 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:49:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:WCffI2oVuXXafTUSPbuqgRsOFqb5KQIp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMdlV18071 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:39:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB152FDCF for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6D58C7C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Attn: Natalie! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:39:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021031223946.6D58C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Some Lumbee are meeting in Austin this weekend. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:52:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMqmkq028295 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:52:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B85A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:51:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:51:07 -0500 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMp6V19679 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:51:07 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.d0.2f2d7665 (4004) for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:50:56 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:50:56 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] San Francisco rally To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2002 9:35:05 AM Central Standard Time, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: << And the next time you see that newsreel clip from the 1940 campaign showing FDR pledging to "never, ever, send your boys to fight in a foreign war!" that he was simultaneously moving heaven and earth behind the scenes to put the US industial base on a war footing. Thank God. >> He was always doing that, from what I've read. He would get 3 or 4 different people working on the same project and not let any of them know about the others. He wanted to know everything about everything. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 16:54:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VMsXkq028316 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041129F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:52:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:52:52 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VMqqV19883 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:52:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.22.31499f4b (4004) for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:52:48 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <22.31499f4b.2af30e3f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:52:47 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Stone Baby To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 10/31/2002 2:35:03 AM Central Standard Time, mandar-TComp@SOFTHOME.NET writes: << I find it a bit strange,did she feel the pains 'only' after these many years? >> She never had any X-rays? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:07:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VN7Mkq028400 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:07:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041138A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:05:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3138996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:05:41 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VN5fV21458 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:05:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.93]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031230720.MGJ24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1B73C.505E8BF8@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:05:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031071554.009f98d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031075911.009fda30@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >We've had both kinds of fests -- some in private space, some in public > >space. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Please describe one that was in a public space. What kind of public > space? Were people able to visit and talk and sit around to chat in a > wordsler group? Ok, let me trace the fests in my memory: '91 Lenny's BBQ -- private (Lenny's house) '92 Clambake -- private (Brown property reserved for the event) '93 Salmonbake -- public park(?) -- or was it the Reed campus? '94 GoatRoast -- private (home of FOWLs) '95 Wordstock -- private (Neal's farm) '96 Torondezvous -- college campus -- did we reserve the space or just take it over? '97 Missionfest -- I missed it but think it was private (Elwood's house?) '98 Slugfest -- I missed it but think it was private (Nipper's house?) '99 Block Island -- public (drinks/snacks on the inn porch, meal in a restaurant) '00 Wordquake -- public restaurant (brewery?), but we had our own room '01 Jigglefest -- private (Jiggleview) '02 ? (Obviously I'm using "public" in the broad sense of meaning other people might be there -- like restaurants or campuses etc.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:13:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNDZkq028464 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:13:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004113F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:11:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:11:54 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNBsV22295 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:11:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.28]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031231333.FHRG3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:13:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1B8B1.C89D9C89@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:11:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > As for Spencer at the two public food events > (pancakes; lobster), it will be crowded with people sitting around and > eating or standing in line waiting to get their---not a good place for a > dog other than a seeing-eye dog. Ah, I guess he'll just have to stay in your house with your cats for that period of time. That means that for the next day's event, we can eat roasted feline garnished with dog eyes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:15:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNF4kq028501 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:15:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:13:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:13:23 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNDNV22531 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:13:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.28]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031231502.FJOA3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:15:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1B90C.A97D12C2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:13:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <3DC0F7F9.32026.37EBC7@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who would have > said "I'll bring the kibble" ? I always think of it as Kibbles and Bits. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:17:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNHTkq028527 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:17:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041142F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:15:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:15:47 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNFlV23001 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:15:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.28]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031231726.FMUP3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:17:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1B99D.D9432640@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:15:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > And why is it any different from a significant number of Americans > caring about World Cup, UK Rugby, etc, etc. I know that you don't I don't know how many foreigners follow rugby, but I see a big difference between international interest in a sport played in only a couple of countries and in a sport played throughout the world and culminating in the world's biggest sports event every summer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:19:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNJFkq028554 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:19:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B884A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:17:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:17:34 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNHYV23255 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:17:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.28]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031231913.FOPU3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1BA08.60AEAE00@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:17:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021030194903.0210C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <5173825595.20021030130234@gailndan.com> <3DC06A59.32035C10@maynor.net> <1882299887.20021031073938@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > There's nothing illegal on planes as far as food goes. You can't take Perhaps not on planes themselves. I was thinking more in terms of getting off of planes when the green-jacketed beagles are sniffing for food. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:20:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNKDkq028575 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:20:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041145F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:18:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3140007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:18:32 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNIWV23430 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:18:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.28]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031232011.FPUX3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:20:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1BA42.FE54802D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:18:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: <200210311212.MAA11474@ufe075.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> <3DC141A2.89694C11@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I hate those giant eyeballs! Scare me half to death. Our cafeteria served goblin eyeballs today. But I didn't choose them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:24:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNO6kq028609 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:24:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041148B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:22:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3140176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:22:25 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNMPV23828 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:22:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.28]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031232404.FTPA3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1BB2B.F5550CDC@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:22:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: San Francisco rally References: <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <3DBDA77F.6B8C31F9@valstar.net> <31131205827.20021028141612@gailndan.com> <3DBDAA4C.A423484@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021028180203.00a0aec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DBDE99C.86704DB9@maynor.net> <14659748824.20021029074513@gailndan.com> <3DBF0F38.6FB9472@maynor.net> <5788714674.20021029154759@gailndan.com> <3DBF229E.D44E719F@maynor.net> <18763570299.20021030101138@gailndan.com> <3DC063D3.60BB821E@maynor.net> <3DC087EB.36386091@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC0A282.403091F0@maynor.net> <803084014.20021031075242@gailndan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Dan Lester wrote: > >> It was a great relief to FDR when Germany declared war > >> on *us*. We were prodding them by almost every means possible to goad us > >> to war. > > NM> Those Democrats. Need a Republican at the helm in order to leap into > NM> war. > > AFAIK FDR was never a Republican.....but I could be wrong. That was my point. You apparently didn't . It was in response to what you wrote above about FDR's relief. > Same for > Truman and JFK and LBJ. What wars did they declare (or request Congress to declare)? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:27:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNR1kq028633 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:27:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B88BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:25:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3140311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:25:19 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNPJV24088 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:25:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.28]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031232659.FWLC3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:26:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1BBD9.DD649D2D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:25:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: spies R Us References: <20021031151911.CB1497C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Maybe you keep your library colder? Yale kept Sterling Library at 60 > degrees--everyone kept all their clothes on during the winter. Did they keep it on 60 just in winter? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:39:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNdIkq028751 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:39:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411550@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:37:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3140966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:37:33 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNbXV25878 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:37:33 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g9VNbWG07920 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:37:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000c01c28136$bc42b2a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Pandering Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:39:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Our local paper tonight tells of a judge putting one of our new residents in jail for 90 days because he's been propositioning the local women on the street and in stores, offering money for sexual contact and intercourse. His name is Obang Ajaak Cham. Anyone know what country he may be from? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:41:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNfmkq028791 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:41:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041156F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:40:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:40:07 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNe7V26145 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:40:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.254]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031234146.VHAT3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:41:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1BF4D.8A56162D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:39:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: clinton in hawaii References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031084931.02ab3c30@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >This from a bookseller in Hawaii. Hard to believe. Can it be true. No > >other president ever...? > > FDR was the first in 1934 (although of course Hawaii wasn't US back then) ... To that particular part of Hawaii? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:46:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNk8kq028834 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:46:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B89AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:44:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:44:27 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNiRV26669 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:44:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.254]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031234606.VKYZ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:46:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C055.CCF5F655@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:44:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hamburger and Spencer Reports References: <20021031175215.4A9257C16@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Or perhaps a special invitation: > > Hi! > > I'm having a great party on Saturday. But I am not inviting you if you > > are allergic to anything at all. > > If people are that allergic, generally you know before you invite them. I certainly don't have a list, mental or physical, of all of the allergies of all potential party guests. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:50:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNoOkq028868 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:50:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004115D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:48:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:48:43 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNmhV27155 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:48:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.254]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031235022.VOSO3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:50:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C155.53FFDEFA@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:48:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182054.009f9830@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0723E.132C8A9A@maynor.net> <20021031181711.GE25690@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. > > > > Good question. I don't know the answer to why I assumed he was a he. > > Do some research. Maybe we should ask Marie to do it Well, I don't have to do any research to say that I have known of more males called Red than females called Red. Perhaps that contributed to my assumption. What are you, Red, a he or a she? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:58:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id g9VNwqkq028910 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:58:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041163C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:57:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:57:10 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9VNvAV28149 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:57:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.254]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021031235849.VWBJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:58:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C350.1622369B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:57:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pox on both the parties References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > I know both sides raise loads of cash with the party in power > getting the lion's share but I sure didn't expect this much > discrepancy. Are you sure it's always the party currently in power that gets the lion's share? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:02:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1026kq028958 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:02:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041166D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA100OV28603 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:00:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.254]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101000203.VZAJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C412.AD0B625E@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:00:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I assumed Red was a he as well, even though I am a "Red." What do you thik > is the dependent variable? You might occasionally be called "Red," but I bet it would never the way it sometimes sticks with males. It sometimes becomes their usual name. I can't remember knowing any female that that's been true of. (That, of course, doesn't mean that a female might not choose to sign her e-mail as "Red." But I do think it may be a contributing factor to our assumption.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:03:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA103Ykq028964 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:03:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041167B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:01:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:01:53 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA101rV28870 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:01:53 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.40]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:01:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C506.669E837E@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:04:22 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: MONK! References: <3DC1AD5D.3DCEC589@valstar.net> <3DC1B3D7.BF127318@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > A repeat > of the pilot. > "My husband was almost killed and you send us The RAINMAN?" Oh, yes? The paper says something about a political candidate. Perhaps that is the husband who was almost killed, though. I never saw the pilot. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:04:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA104Pkq028969 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:04:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411684@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:02:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:02:44 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA102iV28975 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:02:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.254]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101000422.WBJT3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:04:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C49D.D21E2851@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:02:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <20021031214653.GD27602@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > I thought I saw a male name in the from address. That was in my mind also when Bonniemae first asked why I assumed Red was male. But since I couldn't remember for sure, I didn't mention it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:06:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA106tkq028984 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:06:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004116A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:05:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:05:14 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA105EV29563 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:05:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.254]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101000653.WDNH3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C534.EFFFDA55@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:05:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Attn: Natalie! References: <20021031223946.6D58C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Some Lumbee are meeting in Austin this weekend. So is SCMLA. I should've gone. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:07:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA107Akq028987 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:07:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004116A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:05:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:05:25 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA105OV29603 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:05:25 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.40]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:04:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C58E.77DD5A22@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:38 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <3DC0F7F9.32026.37EBC7@localhost> <3DC1B90C.A97D12C2@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I always think of it as Kibbles and Bits. The package says "Kibbles 'n Bits." Only one apostrophe for some reason. I happen to have a bag of it here. For Spike's treats only. Too fattening for regular fare. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:08:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA108Mkq028997 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:08:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004116B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:40 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA106eV29918 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust38.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.40]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:05:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1C5CE.33850050@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:07:42 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pandering References: <000c01c28136$bc42b2a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Our local paper tonight tells of a judge > putting one of our new residents in jail > for 90 days because he's been propositioning > the local women on the street and in stores, > offering money for sexual contact and > intercourse. His name is Obang Ajaak > Cham. Anyone know what country he > may be from? > Sound Indonesian. Possibly Filipino? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:15:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10FNkq029055 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:15:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411709@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:13:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:13:42 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10DgV30994 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:13:42 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021101001336.OVRZ16414.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:13:36 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031161127.02d58a50@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:13:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Pandering In-Reply-To: <000c01c28136$bc42b2a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >His name is Obang Ajaak Cham. Anyone know what country he >may be from? I'd guess Sudan. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:42:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10ggkq029209 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:42:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411852@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:41:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:41:00 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10f0V00891 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:41:00 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10ewc11935 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:40:58 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA10ewRG019279; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:40:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:43:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1B8B1.C89D9C89@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:11 PM 10/31/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > As for Spencer at the two public food events > > (pancakes; lobster), it will be crowded with people sitting around and > > eating or standing in line waiting to get their---not a good place for a > > dog other than a seeing-eye dog. > >Ah, I guess he'll just have to stay in your house with your cats for >that period of time. That means that for the next day's event, we can >eat roasted feline garnished with dog eyes. Noooooo. They have very nice cats. I could send you pictures. I totally understand cat people not inviting people's dogs into their home. Would you invite an animal that would terrify Spencer? I think people should leave their animals at home. :-) betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:43:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10hwkq029218 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:43:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411860@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:42:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:42:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Z25OdmxYEYaPV05ZeygLuf3Wb6u+ZK7X@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10WGV32712 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:32:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973A62FE33 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 583407C11; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:32:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Stone Baby In-Reply-To: <22.31499f4b.2af30e3f@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Oct 31, 2002 5:52:47 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:32:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101003215.583407C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > In a message dated 10/31/2002 2:35:03 AM Central Standard Time, > mandar-TComp@SOFTHOME.NET writes: > > << > I find it a bit strange,did she feel the pains 'only' after these many > years? > > > >> > > She never had any X-rays? You generally don't have your reproductive organs x-rayed. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:44:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10irkq029226 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:44:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00411868@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:43:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:43:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tJmNaK5d24o4VLpLMTXwT27mMQbI4hk8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10XBV00324 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:33:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D211F2FE70 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9B50E7C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:33:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1B73C.505E8BF8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 5: 5:32 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:33:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101003310.9B50E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > '02 ? Private! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:47:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10l0kq029257 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:47:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B8D25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:45:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143475 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:45:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:04MzLm30QYrunzNNjODq/iai7tKRWIRx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10ZDV00489 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:35:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED972FE88 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:35:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4DE257C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:35:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <3DC1B90C.A97D12C2@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 5:13:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:35:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101003512.4DE257C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > I've never seen this word used as a plural before. Am I the only one who would have > > said "I'll bring the kibble" ? > > I always think of it as Kibbles and Bits. That's a brand name. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:47:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10lskq029264 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:47:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004118F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:46:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:46:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bDKNBIQiyN5GwlU2x7KHOqvXSDyiOkcl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10aDV00543 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:36:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D582FE88 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:36:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 76BBD7C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:36:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: spies R Us In-Reply-To: <3DC1BBD9.DD649D2D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 5:25:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:36:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101003612.76BBD7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Maybe you keep your library colder? Yale kept Sterling Library at 60 > > degrees--everyone kept all their clothes on during the winter. > > Did they keep it on 60 just in winter? Yes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:52:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10qXkq029285 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:52:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411915@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3144937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:51 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10opV03555 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:51 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-238.panax.com [63.163.41.238]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10ont16033 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031194240.00b0ec40@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:43:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3DC1B99D.D9432640@maynor.net> References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:15 PM 10/31/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >Dan Lester wrote: > > > And why is it any different from a significant number of Americans > > caring about World Cup, UK Rugby, etc, etc. I know that you don't > >I don't know how many foreigners follow rugby, but I see a big >difference between international interest in a sport played in only a >couple of countries and in a sport played throughout the world and >culminating in the world's biggest sports event every summer. If you are referring to the World Cup tournament, it held every summer. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:52:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10qYkq029288 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:52:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411915@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3144941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:52 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10oqV03561 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:52 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-238.panax.com [63.163.41.238]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10opt16051 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:51 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031194717.00b6ce28@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:49:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1B8B1.C89D9C89@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:11 PM 10/31/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > As for Spencer at the two public food events > > (pancakes; lobster), it will be crowded with people sitting around and > > eating or standing in line waiting to get their---not a good place for a > > dog other than a seeing-eye dog. > >Ah, I guess he'll just have to stay in your house with your cats for >that period of time. That means that for the next day's event, we can >eat roasted feline garnished with dog eyes. No, I'll just turn him over to one of our island's biological laboratories, so that they may experiment with him. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:53:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10r3kq029291 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:53:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041191D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:51:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3144976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:51:21 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10pLV03671 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:51:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.211]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101005300.XRBT3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:53:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1D001.73FE6E0A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:51:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Noooooo. They have very nice cats. I could send you pictures. I totally > understand cat people not inviting people's dogs into their home. Would > you invite an animal that would terrify Spencer? I think people should > leave their animals at home. :-) Spencer is of course staying at home (in the sense of "home" meaning the general vicinity). I plan to make his Furrbabies reservations very early since they book up early for holiday periods. I didn't even take Spencer to Jigglefest, where he was very clearly invited and where he would have fit in and not been a problem and where the fest destination was only a two-day drive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:54:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10s1kq029296 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:54:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B8D98@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:20 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10qKV03800 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.211]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101005359.XRYK3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:53:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1D03D.11BF1423@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:52:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021101003310.9B50E7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > '02 ? > > Private! Have I mentioned that I hate my bat stamps? I'll be very glad when I use them up. It's those veiny ears that I hate. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:54:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10sQkq029300 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:54:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B8D9E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145030 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:44 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10qiV03864 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.211]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101005423.XSIQ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:54:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1D056.307EE8FF@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:52:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: spies R Us References: <20021101003612.76BBD7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Did they keep it on 60 just in winter? > > Yes. What was it on in summer? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:56:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10uQkq029310 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:56:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411939@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:54:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:54:44 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10siV04192 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:54:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.211]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101005623.XUAE3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:56:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1D0CE.B3AD8F1A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:54:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031194240.00b0ec40@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >couple of countries and in a sport played throughout the world and > >culminating in the world's biggest sports event every summer. > > If you are referring to the World Cup tournament, it held every > summer. Yes, that's what I was referring to. When I wrote that, I started thinking that it was wrong -- that it wasn't every year. (I'm not a follower of it personally, but I still understand that it's presumably the world's -- as in considered most important by most people -- sports event.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:56:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA10urkq029314 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:56:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B8DBB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:55:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3144327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:55:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:pb1S6PKdadsP8cfW2D3rIBNDlEenz7Nw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10jBV02084 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:45:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32C52FDFF for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D5BCF7C0A; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:45:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Pandering In-Reply-To: <000c01c28136$bc42b2a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Oct 31, 2002 5:39:20 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:45:09 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101004509.D5BCF7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Our local paper tonight tells of a judge > putting one of our new residents in jail > for 90 days because he's been propositioning > the local women on the street and in stores, > offering money for sexual contact and > intercourse. His name is Obang Ajaak > Cham. Anyone know what country he > may be from? That's not pandering, it's solicitation. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 19:01:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA111rkq029364 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:01:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004119B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:00:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:00:11 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA110BV05081 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:00:11 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1109c11946 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:00:09 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA1109RG023954; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:00:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:02:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1D001.73FE6E0A@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:51 PM 10/31/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > Noooooo. They have very nice cats. I could send you pictures. I totally > > understand cat people not inviting people's dogs into their home. Would > > you invite an animal that would terrify Spencer? I think people should > > leave their animals at home. :-) > >Spencer is of course staying at home (in the sense of "home" meaning the >general vicinity). I plan to make his Furrbabies reservations very >early since they book up early for holiday periods. I didn't even take >Spencer to Jigglefest, where he was very clearly invited and where he >would have fit in and not been a problem and where the fest destination >was only a two-day drive. Yes, that was way different. You could even bring your gun and dress like a whore. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 19:06:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA116Ekq029386 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B8E20@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:04:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:04:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wut5iZPu6R242FVGskExQVh2SPHVGUfh@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10sVV04175 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:54:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533512FD15 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1C2C37C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1D03D.11BF1423@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 6:52:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101005431.1C2C37C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Have I mentioned that I hate my bat stamps? I'll be very glad when I > use them up. It's those veiny ears that I hate. Not my problem--those aren't Austin bats. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 19:06:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA116Zkq029392 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00411A16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:04:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145146 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:04:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Sq2jFvui2Ci66zApQRmo6fJbH1wP18Fq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10sqV04209 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:54:52 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438F22FD15 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 677E27C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: spies R Us In-Reply-To: <3DC1D056.307EE8FF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 6:52:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:54:51 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101005451.677E27C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Did they keep it on 60 just in winter? > > > > Yes. > > What was it on in summer? It wasn't. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 19:07:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA117Jkq029397 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:07:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411A1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:05:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:05:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:k5utdxwDYd5kE2hmtXOXvrFVBPifk3as@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA10taV04335 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:55:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364C42FD15 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0DE237C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:55:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Red yucca? To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:55:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101005536.0DE237C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Has anyone grown this (Hesperaloe parviflora) from seed? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:08:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA128Hkq029798 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:08:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411CEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:06:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:06:29 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA126CV11879 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:06:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.45]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101020751.LXXH15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1E18E.CEF9342A@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:06:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <20021101003512.4DE257C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I always think of it as Kibbles and Bits. > > That's a brand name. Really?? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:09:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA129hkq029804 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:09:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B9093@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:08:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:08:00 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1280V12148 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:08:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.45]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101020939.LZKK15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:09:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1E1FA.57D7204E@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:07:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031194717.00b6ce28@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > No, I'll just turn him over to one of our island's biological laboratories, > so that they may experiment with him. Looking back, I wonder how we could dance so jollily at all those fraternity and sorority dances in college when The Dog Lab Band played. They were regulars for Millsaps parties. Their day jobs were supposedly at "the dog lab" at the med school. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:10:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12AFkq029810 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:10:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00411D03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:08:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:08:33 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA128WV12244 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:08:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.45]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101021012.LZZG15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1E21A.9698BB44@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:08:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021101005431.1C2C37C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > use them up. It's those veiny ears that I hate. > > Not my problem--those aren't Austin bats. Do Austin bats not have veiny ears? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:11:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12Bdkq029820 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00411D0F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:09:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:09:57 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA129vV12366 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:09:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.45]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101021136.MBIR15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1E26E.CF5797F2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:09:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: spies R Us References: <20021101005451.677E27C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Did they keep it on 60 just in winter? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > What was it on in summer? > > It wasn't. Weird. They let the books just be at any old temperature in summer? I thought libraries were always carefully -- usually at unpleasantly low temperatures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:14:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12EBkq029838 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:14:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B90C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:12:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:11:53 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12BqV12527 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:11:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.45]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101021331.MDGQ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:13:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1E2E2.6433D1DD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:11:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Yes, that was way different. You could even bring your gun and dress like > a whore. Indeed. I'm guessing that we shouldn't bring our guns to Acadiafest, but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? Somehow I don't think of that part of the country as WhoreLand. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:19:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12JJkq029883 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:19:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411D55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:17:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:17:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YF+N2s18T4CrKNKeuESiuuFdR60PsxKf@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA127aV12121 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:07:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0E12FDBD for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6CBFB7C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:07:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <3DC1E18E.CEF9342A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 8: 6: 6 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:07:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101020735.6CBFB7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I always think of it as Kibbles and Bits. > > > > That's a brand name. > > Really?? Well, as Alyce pointed out, it's actually Kibble 'n Bits. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:26:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12Q5kq029914 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:26:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B9151@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:24:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148445 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:24:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:z3jkIvRIGMPklo289eCHgJxJAGrq7UaT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12ELV12738 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEB12FE05 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 22F1B7C12; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:14:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1E21A.9698BB44@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 8: 8:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:14:20 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101021421.22F1B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > use them up. It's those veiny ears that I hate. > > > > Not my problem--those aren't Austin bats. > > Do Austin bats not have veiny ears? I don't know if Mexican free-tailed bats have veiny ears or not, I just know that none of the bats on the stamps are Mf-tbs. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:27:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12Rnkq029922 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:27:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411DC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:26:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:26:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BE6RJCRpsuWQc8+vI6OqHhzfdALwMOSB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12G6V12847 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:16:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902162FE01 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5FAA07C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:16:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: spies R Us In-Reply-To: <3DC1E26E.CF5797F2@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Oct 31, 2002 8: 9:50 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:16:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101021605.5FAA07C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > Did they keep it on 60 just in winter? > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > What was it on in summer? > > > > It wasn't. > > Weird. They let the books just be at any old temperature in summer? Yes. > I > thought libraries were always carefully -- usually > at unpleasantly low temperatures. I can vouch for the unpleasantly low temperatures. The building is made of stone, with wall a couple of feet thick. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:38:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12cfkq029986 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:38:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00411E2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:36:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:36:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12QxV13949 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:26:59 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA12QwVO026020 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:26:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:26:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: <20021101020735.6CBFB7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> > > I always think of it as Kibbles and Bits. >> > >> > That's a brand name. >> >> Really?? > >Well, as Alyce pointed out, it's actually Kibble 'n Bits. Not according to many websites, including http://www.kibbles-n-bits.com/main.asp Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:46:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12k9kq030063 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:46:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B91F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:44:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:44:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f75.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12iEV15283 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:44:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:44:09 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:44:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Jam Master Jay Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:44:08 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 02:44:09.0334 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DA19960:01C28150] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > King of Rock is one of my all-time faves. (Do you know > > this one, AnnB? It's old, 1986 or so.) >No, don't know it but will look, thanks Make sure you give it a listen before plonking down $17.98. It's very different from ColdPlay or Beck (shudder, what on earth possessed you to buy Sea Change?!). I'm surprised (and pleased) at how well King of Rock (and the previous album, Run D.M.C) have aged. imo. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:46:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12kZkq030068 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:46:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B91FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:44:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:44:53 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail022.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12iqV15310 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:44:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.187]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101024628.OCKZ1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:46:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC1EA9E.D64DCBA9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:44:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the menu, please References: <20021101020735.6CBFB7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Well, as Alyce pointed out, it's actually Kibble 'n Bits. The 'n is correct. I knew that even when I wrote "and" -- it just seemed somehow simpler to write "and." But of all the bags of Kibbles 'n Bits I've bought through the years, I've never seen a missing s on Kibbles. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:47:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12lokq030075 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:47:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411E9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:46:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:46:08 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f224.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.224]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12k7V15466 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:46:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:46:02 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:46:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: pox on both the parties Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:46:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 02:46:02.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[D10CD0C0:01C28150] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I know both sides raise loads of cash with the party in power > > getting the lion's share but I sure didn't expect this much > > discrepancy. >Are you sure it's always the party currently in power that gets the >lion's share? I have no idea. Pure speculation on my part. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:50:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12oLkq030089 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00411EB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:48:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:48:38 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f138.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.138]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12mcV15644 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:48:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:48:33 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:48:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: pox on both the parties Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:48:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 02:48:33.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[2ADA5140:01C28151] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alyce: > > The Associated Industries Insurance Company gave the GOP $185,000 > > and none to Democrats; >This, especially, is not surprising. This is because Bush is pushing for >his "Terrorist Insurance" bill, which will have the government paying >part of the insurance premiums for construction sites and commercial >real estate of all sorts that might be a target for terrorism. They probably gave much more to the other Bush, Dubya, the king of fund-raisers. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 20:50:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA12oekq030093 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:50:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00411EB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:48:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:48:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8NHR1TD6G4W8eEfES2oUX+B1E975solA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12cvV14886 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:38:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF362FDF8 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B39D77C0D; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:38:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the menu, please In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Oct 31, 2002 9:26:58 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:38:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101023856.B39D77C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> > > I always think of it as Kibbles and Bits. > >> > > >> > That's a brand name. > >> > >> Really?? > > > >Well, as Alyce pointed out, it's actually Kibble 'n Bits. > > Not according to many websites, including > > http://www.kibbles-n-bits.com/main.asp I typoed the s. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:00:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA130nkq030170 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:00:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00411F1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:59:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:59:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f99.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12x6V16485 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:59:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:59:01 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:59:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: pox on both the parties Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 02:59:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 02:59:01.0145 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1312890:01C28152] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > I know both sides raise loads of cash with the party in power > > > getting the lion's share but I sure didn't expect this much > > > discrepancy. > >Are you sure it's always the party currently in power that gets the > >lion's share? >I have no idea. Pure speculation on my part. Following up my own post, I just remembered something. I'm not sure of this -didn't Dubya raise more money than Gore during the last presidential campaign. That would mean my original guess was incorrect. But as I said I'm not sure who raised more money in 2000 ... This time around, Dubya is clearly ahead - $110 million to $70 million. kewl. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:02:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA132hkq030181 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:02:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B92E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:01:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:00:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jvf/ujVvEb/AEUXnQL5e6q1LtyvYn87G@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA12opV15787 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:50:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7342FDC4 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 730907C11; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:50:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Flight paths? To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:50:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101025050.730907C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Someone once posted a URL for flight paths of birds. Anyone still got it? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:06:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA136ckq030198 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:06:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B9382@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:04:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:04:55 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA134tV20231 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:04:55 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA134rc30593 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:04:53 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA134rRG020478 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:04:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:07:00 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Adam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What did you do to celebrate your birthday yesterday? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:13:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA13DDkq030243 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:13:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B943F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:11:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3152259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:11:30 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA13BUV21108 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:11:30 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA13BTG13565 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:11:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c28154$a0b44580$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021101004509.D5BCF7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Pandering Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:13:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland said: > [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > Our local paper tonight tells of a judge > > putting one of our new residents in jail > > for 90 days because he's been propositioning > > the local women on the street and in stores, > > offering money for sexual contact and > > intercourse. His name is Obang Ajaak > > Cham. Anyone know what country he > > may be from? > > That's not pandering, it's solicitation. > > Karen I looked again. He was charged with attempted pandering and disturbing the peace. I don't know the exact details of his approaches to women. He got 6 mo on the 1st charge and 90 days on the second. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:17:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA13Hikq030295 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:17:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B947C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:16:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:16:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rkS8EBFVWk4GOj8OmOPNgdkpYlsBYGbE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1360V20487 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:06:01 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2D72FE05 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 382CA7C0F; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Oct 31, 2002 7: 7: 0 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:06:00 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101030600.382CA7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > What did you do to celebrate your birthday yesterday? Oops, BHB, LH! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:18:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA13IIkq030299 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:18:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00412094@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:16:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3152477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:16:35 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA13GZV21592 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:16:35 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA13GYG19428 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:16:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c28155$55748ca0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031161127.02d58a50@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Pandering Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:18:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland writes, > > >His name is Obang Ajaak Cham. Anyone know what country he > >may be from? > > I'd guess Sudan. > > Pete That's very likely. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:29:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA13TPkq030345 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:29:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B951F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:27:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3152571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:27:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:qQbwxzupytywx2MBFSo0D0qek3wby1c7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA13HgV21780 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:17:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F232FDD7 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AB6A07C0C; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:17:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Pandering In-Reply-To: <002301c28154$a0b44580$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Oct 31, 2002 9:13:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:17:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101031741.AB6A07C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > Doris Markland said: > > [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > > Our local paper tonight tells of a judge > > > putting one of our new residents in jail > > > for 90 days because he's been propositioning > > > the local women on the street and in stores, > > > offering money for sexual contact and > > > intercourse. His name is Obang Ajaak > > > Cham. Anyone know what country he > > > may be from? > > > > That's not pandering, it's solicitation. > > > > Karen > > I looked again. He was charged with attempted > pandering and disturbing the peace. I don't know > the exact details of his approaches to women. He got > 6 mo on the 1st charge and 90 days on the second. law.com sez: " Soliciting acts of prostitution is also a crime, called pandering or simply, soliciting. Pandering on behalf of a prostitute is called pimping." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 21:33:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA13XEkq030383 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:33:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B954A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:31:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3152745 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:31:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:G3CpfVPvhz2CHqVK6ApzN6B+UvZuLCtR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA13LVV22132 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:21:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FAD42FE2A for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CDF8F7C10; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:21:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Pandering In-Reply-To: <000401c28155$55748ca0$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Oct 31, 2002 9:18:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:21:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101032129.CDF8F7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > Doris Markland writes, > > > > >His name is Obang Ajaak Cham. Anyone know what country he > > >may be from? > > > > I'd guess Sudan. > > > > Pete > > That's very likely. Hm, according to http://www.hrw.org/press97/dec/sudwom1.htm (an old page) the penalty for prostitution in Sudan is the death penalty. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 22:00:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA140Mkq030823 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:00:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B97A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:58:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3154930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:58:38 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA13wcV25621 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:58:38 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA29192 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:58:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 868CE38699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:58:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:58:37 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021101035837.GB4@pobox.com> References: <20021031214653.GD27602@pobox.com> <3DC1C49D.D21E2851@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC1C49D.D21E2851@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 06:02:37PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > I thought I saw a male name in the from address. > > That was in my mind also when Bonniemae first asked why I assumed Red > was male. But since I couldn't remember for sure, I didn't mention it. Ghod ... OK, I went back and it turns out to be "Mandar", which is a male name. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 22:04:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA144bkq030852 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:04:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040B9873@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:02:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:02:54 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA142sV26845 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:02:54 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-129.panax.com [65.114.190.129]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA142qt20046 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:02:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:02:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1E2E2.6433D1DD@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Indeed. I'm guessing that we shouldn't bring our guns to Acadiafest, >but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? >Somehow I don't think of that part of the country as WhoreLand. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) As opposed to Iowa ??! --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 22:07:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA147tkq030865 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:07:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00412357@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:06:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:06:12 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA146BV27130 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:06:11 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA01638 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:06:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 225B138699; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:06:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:06:11 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind Message-ID: <20021101040611.GD4@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Indeed. I'm guessing that we shouldn't bring our guns to Acadiafest, > >but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? > >Somehow I don't think of that part of the country as WhoreLand. The polite pronunciation is "Holland". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 22:41:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA14fKkq031105 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:41:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004126AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:39:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3156578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:39:25 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA14TPV28964 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:29:25 -0500 Received: from mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz [210.86.15.146]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA14TOm26362 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:29:24 -0500 Received: from localhost ([210.86.15.143]) by mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20021101042918.WZBZ3817.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@localhost> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:29:18 +1300 From: auto-filter@xtra.co.nz To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu Subject: Virus Alert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101042918.WZBZ3817.mta203-rme.xtra.co.nz@localhost> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:29:18 +1300 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU An attachment called (WORM_KLEZ.H) in an email that appears to have been sent from your email address to (bywateri@convertech.co.nz) contained the virus (WORM_KLEZ.H), which has been deleted. If you do not believe you were the actual sender, the Klez virus is likely to be the culprit. The Klez virus works by forging the 'From' address inside the virus infected email, which means you can receive a virus alert from Xtra even if you are not necessarily the actual sender. Information on Xtra's anti-virus email filter: http://xtra.co.nz/anti-virus More on the Klez virus: http://xtra.co.nz/help/0,,6156-1347943,00.html Help with filtering anti-virus email alerts from Xtra: http://xtra.co.nz/help/0,,6156-1656774,00.html Help with removing a virus from your computer: http://xtra.co.nz/help/0,,4128-544089,00.html If you have any other questions, please forward this email along with your enquiry to anti-virus@xtra.co.nz From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 23:22:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA15M5kq031452 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:22:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00412959@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 0:20:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3165264 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:20:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:IqZZApCkjCTOKLE/rt0JTtnHpxvfqOs0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA15KLV02525 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:20:21 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B592A2FD81 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0762C2B57A for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:20:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is this still the lard thread? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths X-Rock-Band-Name: The Apical Meristems Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:20:10 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Survivor, Day whatever Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Breathes there a wordsler (of the Survivor-watching sept) who didn't carefully parse Jeff Probst's careful wording regarding the collocation of the teams? I will miss tonight's extinguished torch, not the least because she rather lit my candle, so to speak. Ken Miller Reality Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 23:27:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA15RLkq031485 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:27:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BA628@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 0:25:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3165039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:25:38 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:P13Fm6oz/tw3L9pmGdBJSvThyTQvHxi8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA15FbV02108 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:15:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5587D2FD81 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CE3F77C14; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:15:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Convergence? To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:15:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101051536.CE3F77C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did anyone else hear the theme to 6FU on CSI tonight? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Oct 31 23:47:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA15lVkq031838 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:47:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BA6B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 0:45:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3165921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:45:47 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA15jlV04225 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:45:47 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA15jkG20006 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:45:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001801c2816a$2c2a95a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021101032129.CDF8F7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Pandering Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:47:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Hm, according to http://www.hrw.org/press97/dec/sudwom1.htm (an old > page) the penalty for prostitution in Sudan is the death penalty. > > Karen Wow. That is interesting. These newcomers have been getting into various kinds of trouble, and people then say, "Well, they just don't understand because such things aren't against the law where they come from", etc. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 00:13:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA16DCkq032228 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:13:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00412B8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 1:11:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3166843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:11:28 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA16BRV06098 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:11:28 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id AAA11866 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:11:27 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 25B3938699; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:11:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:11:26 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Pandering Message-ID: <20021101061126.GB8136@pobox.com> References: <20021101032129.CDF8F7C10@yellow.rahul.net> <001801c2816a$2c2a95a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001801c2816a$2c2a95a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:47:27PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > Hm, according to http://www.hrw.org/press97/dec/sudwom1.htm (an old > > page) the penalty for prostitution in Sudan is the death penalty. > > Wow. That is interesting. These newcomers > have been getting into various kinds of trouble, > and people then say, "Well, they just don't > understand because such things aren't against > the law where they come from", etc. Such a statement has all the symptoms of "clueless" practically from syntax up, but I am curious who the people are who say this? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 00:17:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA16HAkq032581 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:17:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BA7D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 1:15:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:15:26 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA16FPV06451 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:15:25 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA16Fpt04971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:15:51 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:15:50 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Go google today! Message-ID: <20021101071550.A4968@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021031202208.B3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021031192811.6FC357C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031192811.6FC357C0A@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:28:11AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Does google know what country you're in? = = Karen Yes. I thought I knew ways around that, but actually I also know they tailor my ads based on IP address. Do you know how to get to the default ".com" page? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 00:20:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA16K4kq032606 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:20:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00412BD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 1:18:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:18:20 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA16IJV06626 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:18:19 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA16Ijc04980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:18:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:18:45 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey, Rita! Message-ID: <20021101071845.B4968@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021031193956.GC4573@pobox.com> <20021031194738.21A267C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021031194738.21A267C10@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:47:38AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I'm too old and girly to be a l33t h4cqu3r. = = Karen No one knows you're a l335 h4cqu3r on the Internet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 00:33:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA16XNkq000383 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:33:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00412C43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 1:31:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:31:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:M6eKfpRC0E4ASYwxs/X7oZTAZ+E6hQVs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA16VcV07259 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:31:39 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701BF2FDF4 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760922B57A for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:31:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021031192811.6FC357C0A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021031202208.B3674@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Oct 31, 2002 8:22: 8 pm" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is this still the lard thread? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths X-Rock-Band-Name: The Apical Meristems Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 22:31:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Go google today! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Does google know what country you're in? > >Karen It makes assumptions based on the IP address your request comes from. If you're using a proxy server in a different country, either intentionally or un-, then its guess will be wrong. Otherwise, you'll get a Bastille Day logo if you live in France, or a Holi logo if you live in India. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 02:50:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA18obkq002131 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 02:50:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041327D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 3:48:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3173439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 03:48:52 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA18mqV18180 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 03:48:52 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3G831>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:50:34 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3G83D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:50:33 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021101094824.030f0d70@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:48:45 +0100 Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> References: <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 07:34 31.10.2002 -0700 skrev Dan Lester: >10/30/2002, 3:47 PM, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >NM> "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >>> >R> I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. >>> >>> Seems to me that Alabama is sometimes referred to as the Red Tide; for that >>> matter, doesn't Cornell's nickname have something to do with "red"? > >NM> Seems to me that it would be mightily odd for somebody in another >NM> country to know or care anything about US fb. > >Actually not. The SuperBowl is seen world wide by vast numbers, as an >example. Look at all the NFL shirts you see worn in other countries. What is the Suberbowl? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 03:37:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA19blkq002331 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 03:37:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BB06E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 4:36:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3173948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 04:36:02 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA19a2V20888 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 04:36:02 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3G8X2>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:45 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3G8XH; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:39 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021101103531.031841f0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:35:50 +0100 Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 19:07 31.10.2002 -0800 skrev Betty: >What did you do to celebrate your birthday yesterday? HB - two days off. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:05:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1C52kq002986 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:05:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00413870@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:03:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:03:15 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1C3FV13796 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:03:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.120]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101120454.TCCE20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:04:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC26D7A.189B584F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:03:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pox on both the parties References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Following up my own post, I just remembered something. I'm > not sure of this -didn't Dubya raise more money than Gore > during the last presidential campaign. That would mean my > original guess was incorrect. But as I said I'm not sure who > raised more money in 2000 ... I don't have any figures at all, and perhaps my impression is skewed by knowing that in our state campaigns (at least in relatively recent history) the Republicans always have at least quadruple the campaign money that the Democrats have, regardless of who's the incumbent. I saw the figures not long ago for the candidates for my Congressional district (both of them incumbents -- they're running against each other now because of redistricting -- loss of a seat) and was appalled at the discrepancy in funds. I didn't need to see the figures to know which one obviously had tons of money. I'm riddled every day with obnoxious flyers from him in my mailbox, he has gigantic, expensive signs everywhere, etc. etc. I already didn't like him, but his flyers, showing horrible pictures of his opponent and distorting the truth about him to the point of being very, very close to outright lies have made me dislike him to the extreme. He (Chip Pickering) is a twirpy Trent Lott clone who is even more disgusting than The Evil One. Polls show that he's probably going to win, though. But I digress. Surely there are some online figures for fund-raising by national party, aren't there? I bet the Republicans have been ahead in it for a good while now. Big money interests are willing to spend some of their big money to elect people who they believe will be biased toward big money interests. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:05:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1C5qkq002992 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:05:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041387C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:04:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:04:06 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1C46V13857 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:04:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.120]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101120545.TCMH20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:05:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC26DB0.175556AD@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:04:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam References: <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How did we miss AdamLH's bday????? Where is Phyllis? Belated HB, AdamLH! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:07:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1C7Fkq003002 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:07:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041388A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:05:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:05:29 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1C5TV13945 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:05:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.120]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101120708.TDDP20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:07:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC26E03.2EE76B7C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:05:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >Somehow I don't think of that part of the country as WhoreLand. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > As opposed to Iowa ??! Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:08:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1C8ckq003009 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:08:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00413896@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:06:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2987953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:06:52 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1C6qV14037 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:06:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.120]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101120831.TDRA20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:08:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC26E57.5DA67A02@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:06:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021101040611.GD4@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > >Indeed. I'm guessing that we shouldn't bring our guns to Acadiafest, > > >but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? > > >Somehow I don't think of that part of the country as WhoreLand. > > The polite pronunciation is "Holland". We could sit in front (or would it be behind?) B&C's front window and try to lure passing strangers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:10:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1CArkq003018 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:10:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004138AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:09:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:09:06 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1C95V14222 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:09:05 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id GAA12144 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:09:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E1FB838699; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:09:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:09:04 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021101120904.GA3063@pobox.com> References: <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20021101094824.030f0d70@victoria.nb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021101094824.030f0d70@victoria.nb.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 09:48:45AM +0100, Espen Ore wrote: > > What is the Suberbowl? Ha ha, when I asked the same question many years ago, Harwell wrote back saying, pretty much, don't be an ass, everybody in the world knows what the Superbowl is. But even after Harwell's explanation, I wasn't particularly clear on the concept ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:12:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1CC7kq003022 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:12:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BB4A3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:10:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988047 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:10:21 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1CAKV14300 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:10:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.120]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101121200.TFLA20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:12:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC26F27.1743DFCC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:10:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > > Breathes there a wordsler (of the Survivor-watching sept) who didn't > carefully parse Jeff Probst's careful wording regarding the collocation of > the teams? I found it an interesting twist on the game. Sneaky he is. > I will miss tonight's extinguished torch, not the least because she rather > lit my candle, so to speak. I will miss her because I found her one of the most interesting of the group. I didn't know exactly what it was they had against the contender for ousting since I had hardly been aware of her existence at all. I find the one who survived bland and unnoticeable. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:22:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1CMdkq003086 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:22:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00413913@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:20:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2988207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:20:53 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1CKrV15452 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:20:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.120]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101122232.TLPH20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:22:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2719F.2D561BDC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:20:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: pox on both the parties References: <3DC26D7A.189B584F@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A quick googling produced this info re 2000 (fwiw -- I'm rushing now and haven't looked closely at it): **************** Median Spending by Congressional Candidates 2000 General Election Amounts in dollars (eyeballed from chart ) Republicans 700,000 incumbents 30,000 challengers 1,100,000 open seat Democrats 540,000 incumbents 80,000 challengers 820,000 open seat **************** from: http://civic.net/civic-values.archive/200107/msg00004.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:55:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Ctkkq003225 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:55:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00413A18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:53:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989168 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:53:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1CrwV18126 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:53:58 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-109.panax.com [65.114.190.109]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Crvt00611 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:53:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075148.00a042e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 07:53:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC26E03.2EE76B7C@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > > >Somehow I don't think of that part of the country as WhoreLand. > > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > As opposed to Iowa ??! > >Yes. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) We staid New Englanders thank you. But the young girl in me, born a Midwestern farmer's granddaughter, is shocked. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 06:58:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1CwTkq003234 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:58:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00413A3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:56:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989328 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:56:42 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1CugV18521 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:56:42 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-109.panax.com [65.114.190.109]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Cuft00993 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:56:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075535.009f1bc0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 07:56:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC26E57.5DA67A02@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021101040611.GD4@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > The polite pronunciation is "Holland". > >We could sit in front (or would it be behind?) B&C's front window and >try to lure passing strangers. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) The lilacs rather block the view from the street into the front windows. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:01:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1D1gkq003276 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:01:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00413A61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 7:59:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:59:56 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1CxtV18777 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:59:55 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-109.panax.com [65.114.190.109]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Cxst01601 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:59:54 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075727.009f7ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 07:59:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <3DC26F27.1743DFCC@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I will miss her because I found her one of the most interesting of the >group. I didn't know exactly what it was they had against the contender >for ousting since I had hardly been aware of her existence at all. I >find the one who survived bland and unnoticeable. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I didn't like her. Because I'm up early this morning, I ought to go watch her on CBS. But I hate the morning news shows. I also hate the evening news shows for that matter. I don't like getting my information nicely packaged in a bite of condensed crap sandwiched between commercials. In any case, now that we are down to nine folks, who do you think will win?? I think the big black guy has got a good chance. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:10:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1DA5kq003301 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:10:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00413AD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 8:08:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2989702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:08:19 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1D8JV19391 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:08:19 -0500 Received: from rwcrwbc55 ([204.127.198.44]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021101130813.DOHX27144.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:08:13 +0000 Received: from [63.110.228.250] by rwcrwbc55; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:08:12 +0000 From: adamh1@attbi.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:08:12 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Aug 12 2002) Message-Id: <20021101130813.DOHX27144.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@rwcrwbc55> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > What did you do to celebrate your birthday yesterday? I worked and had a nice quiet dinner with my mother at On The Border Mexican Cafe (where my surprise party was last year). It was nice. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:16:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1DGskq003362 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:16:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00413B30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 8:15:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990054 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:15:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.94]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1DF6V20054 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:15:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:15:00 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:15:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Adam Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:15:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 13:15:00.0882 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEE97720:01C281A8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > What did you do to celebrate your birthday yesterday? >I worked and had a nice quiet dinner with my mother >at On The Border Mexican Cafe (where my surprise party >was last year). It was nice. Oooh, I know where this is ! Happy Belated, LH. Hugs, -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:36:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Dapkq003437 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:36:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BB947@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 8:35:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2990642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:35:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vqrGSm9stgepUK8EtnAAc9MHyOWbHoCH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1DP4V21476 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:25:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B792FE4B for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9D7637C0F; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075727.009f7ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 7:59:47 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101132503.9D7637C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I didn't like her. Why? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:41:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1DfSkq003450 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:41:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BB98A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 8:39:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:39:37 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1DdbV23143 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:39:37 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-137.panax.com [63.163.41.137]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ddat09081 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:39:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101083728.009f5160@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:39:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <20021101132503.9D7637C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075727.009f7ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev said: > > I didn't like her. > >Why? --Karen I didn't like all the eye rolling and disgusted looks she gave the others for the last how many weeks. Yeah, maybe it's true that she was singled out and disliked. That guy talking about her eating with her fingers was stupid. He was easily offended, I guess. But I just didn't like her. She seemed like she had an above-it-all attitude and was a bit of a whiner. I realize of course that we only saw what they chose to show us. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:47:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1DlXkq003489 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:47:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00413D21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 8:45:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:45:46 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1DjjV23870 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:45:46 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Djit10154 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:45:44 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101082206.00b34438@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:45:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021101094824.030f0d70@victoria.nb.no> References: <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:48 AM 11/1/2002 +0100, espen wrote: >What is the Suberbowl? Once upon a time in America, there was one professional league of football (American, not association) teams. This league, the National Football League (NFL) annually held a championship game. After at least one unsuccessful attempt to establish a competing league, a second league was formed, the American Football League (AFL). The AFL had sufficient financial backing and revenue (especially from TV) that it was able to compete with the NFL in the signing of the top collegiate football players, hire some of the better coaches, and in a relatively short time, as marketing types would say, "field a product" that was pretty much on a par with the NFL. The AFL held its own championship game. After a few years of rather bitter warfare over the signing of prospects, the two leagues agreed to merge under the banner of "NFL"; the two former leagues (with some adjustment of who belonged to which) became "conferences"---The NFC and AFC. As part of the merger agreement, each conference would hold its own playoffs and championship game; the two winners then would meet (after a suitable period of media hype), in a game to determine the overall champion. This ultimate game was dubbed The Superbowl---as I recall, initially by some sports reporter. The name caught on; each successive Superbowl is identified by the appropriate Roman numeral. We now are somewhere in the late XXXs, I think; I get bored trying to keep track of the Vs and Is. To many purists, the really good games in terms of excitement, level of play, and competitiveness are the semifinal and final games of the conference championship series; the Superbowl is a media extravaganza, nowadays usually played at one of a half-dozen or so indoor stadiums in large metropolitan areas. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:51:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1DpXkq003503 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:51:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00413D6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 8:49:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:49:46 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1DnkV24692 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:49:46 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Dnit10992 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:49:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:49:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC1E2E2.6433D1DD@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:11 PM 10/31/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >Indeed. I'm guessing that we shouldn't bring our guns to Acadiafest, good guess. >but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? Well, we certainly wouldn't want you to change your style simply for one event. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 07:52:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Dqgkq003508 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:52:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00413D7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 8:50:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2991437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:50:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ZVWVjaAMe/YM2ue0cd/d2Bq4cQS17EME@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1DesV23275 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:40:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E042FDC2 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:40:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 29B467C10; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:40:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101083728.009f5160@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 8:39:29 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:40:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101134054.29B467C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I didn't like all the eye rolling and disgusted looks she gave the others > for the last how many weeks. Yeah, maybe it's true that she was singled > out and disliked. That guy talking about her eating with her fingers was > stupid. He was easily offended, I guess. It wasn't the fingers, it wasn't that she ate the heart and neck. > But I just didn't like her. She > seemed like she had an above-it-all attitude and was a bit of a whiner. I > realize of course that we only saw what they chose to show us. I think she worked very hard. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:23:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1ENgkq003711 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:23:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00413FDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:21:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2993614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:21:54 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f167.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1ELsV28064 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:21:54 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:21:49 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:21:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:21:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 14:21:49.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[03F36600:01C281B2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >You might occasionally be called "Red," but I bet it would never >the way it sometimes sticks with males. I agree. I'm "Red" in my immediate family only. Two of my sisters and an uncle almost exclusively call me "Red" and variations thereof. Which is actually kinda funny, since most people don't even consider my hair to be red anymore. >of. (That, of course, doesn't mean that a female might not choose to >sign her e-mail as "Red." But I do think it may be a contributing >factor to our assumption.) I wanted to find a picture of the Dr. Seuss (completely androgynous) "Red in Bed" but there doesn't appear to be a picture on the web. Lots of porn sites though, the red in question being female. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:31:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EV0kq003756 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:31:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BBDCE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:29:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:29:12 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1ETCV28858 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:29:12 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1ETBc29426 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:29:11 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA1ETARG010607; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:29:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101063025.00a89d90@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:31:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021101103531.031841f0@victoria.nb.no> References: <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:35 AM 11/1/2002 +0100, Espen Ore wrote: >19:07 31.10.2002 -0800 skrev Betty: > >What did you do to celebrate your birthday yesterday? > >HB - two days off. /Jim didn't report in either. Or Theo. Maybe they were busy partying. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:31:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EVtkq003764 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:31:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:30:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:30:07 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EU7V29057 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:30:07 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EU6c30118 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:30:06 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA1EU6RG013078; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:30:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101063131.00a253d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:32:15 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: <3DC26DB0.175556AD@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:04 AM 11/1/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >How did we miss AdamLH's bday????? Where is Phyllis? Belated HB, >AdamLH! Phyllis hasn't been with us for a while. There were only a couple of posts after her father died. Maybe she ran off with Jim. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:33:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EXvkq003774 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:33:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004140AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:32:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:32:09 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f95.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.95]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EW9V29353 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:32:09 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:32:04 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:32:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:32:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 14:32:04.0041 (UTC) FILETIME=[72878B90:01C281B3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >win?? I think the big black guy has got a good chance. I think it'll be either Ted or Brian. There don't appear to be many alliances formed. Penny and Erin, and I guess along tribal lines they may be allied. But I think Ted and Brian have the only stated "alliance" and that they are both fairly strong and outwardly likeable. My money's on Ted. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:35:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EZmkq003784 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:35:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BBE62@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:34:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:34:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HvhhZN+CvzX5STFv2D0f7csW27fOO1hs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EY1V29771 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:34:01 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6827E2FE57 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4A12B57A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:33:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DC26F27.1743DFCC@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is this still the lard thread? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths X-Rock-Band-Name: The Apical Meristems Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:33:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I will miss her because I found her one of the most interesting of the >group. I didn't know exactly what it was they had against the contender >for ousting since I had hardly been aware of her existence at all. I >find the one who survived bland and unnoticeable. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I hadn't paid her much attention before tonight, either. I'm beginning to think that the editors of the show may have been indulging in a little misdirection with regard to her. Her smile afterwards was not a smile of relief. It was the smile of a bully who has just inflicted grievous harm on someone else. Ken Miller Reality Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:37:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Ebbkq003788 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:37:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00414108@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:35:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:50 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EZnV29985 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:50 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EZnb16501 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:49 -0500 Received: from [131.128.1.150] (BEACHBUM.ACC.uri.edu [131.128.1.150]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id gA1EYiv16075 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:34:44 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021101063025.00a89d90@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021101103531.031841f0@victoria.nb.no> <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:37:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: Adam Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >/Jim didn't report in either. Or Theo. Maybe they were busy partying. I'm here, with nothing to report. /Jim > >Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:37:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Ebrkq003791 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:37:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041410F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:36:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994606 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:36:06 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ea5V30033 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:36:05 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-132.panax.com [65.114.190.132]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ea4t25913 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:36:04 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101093453.00a07450@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:35:18 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Karen check your mailbox Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your socks are undoubtedly waiting for you down the street in your mailbox. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:37:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Ebtkq003794 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:37:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00414110@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:36:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994613 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:36:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f121.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.121]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ea7V30051 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:36:07 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:36:02 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:36:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:36:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 14:36:02.0049 (UTC) FILETIME=[0064AF10:01C281B4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Tushar Samant >Ghod ... OK, I went back and it turns out to be "Mandar", which >is a male name. Is there any way having not known a Mandar (that I remember) to know that -- e.g. are all Indian "-ar" names male? Do female names tend to end in vowels? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:39:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Edckq003801 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:39:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041412F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:37:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:37:51 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EbpV30364 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:37:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1EbgX04498 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:37:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC291B4.B7321EC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:37:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031230218.00a0ad90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075148.00a042e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > We staid New Englanders thank you. But the young girl in me, born a > Midwestern farmer's granddaughter, is shocked. But you haven't been on the scene at Jiggleview. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:39:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Edukq003805 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:39:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BBED7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:38:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:38:08 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f125.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.125]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ec8V30434 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:38:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:38:03 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:38:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:38:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 14:38:03.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[48A4A000:01C281B4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >I have to say that one thing I miss about New York is the apples. It's not been a great apple year. I can't believe I went half my life having never eaten a Macoun apple, though. They are the best. And half Macoun, half Granny Smith is the perfect apple pie combo. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:43:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EhRkq003819 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:43:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414189@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:41:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:41:40 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f25.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.25]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EfeV30926 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:41:40 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:41:34 -0800 Received: from 129.113.170.23 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:41:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [129.113.170.23] From: "Anne Toal" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Karen check your mailbox Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:41:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 14:41:34.0604 (UTC) FILETIME=[C69C8CC0:01C281B4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Your socks are undoubtedly waiting for you down the street in your mailbox. Oh yuck, does she live in one of those mid-80's neighborhoods where they installed cluster boxes? I am so glad they've stopped doing that. Back in the mid-80's while that cluster box nonsense was going on in the newly-built neighborhoods, they sent a letter around neighborhoods like ours to notify us that after a certain date, they would no longer deliver mail to boxes attached to houses---they would only deliver boxes on a pole at the curb of your property. A few stalwarts refused to install curb boxes, and what happened to them? Absolutely nothing. They still get their mail every day, in the same box that was installed on the house when it was built in the 40's. _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:45:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Ejnkq003850 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:45:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004141A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:44:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:44:02 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ei1V31244 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:44:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1EhrX07190 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:43:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29328.C87EDB76@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:43:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075727.009f7ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I will miss her because I found her one of the most interesting of the > >group. > I didn't like her. There were some things about her I didn't like. She seemed at times to consider herself everybody else. These times were when she was talking to us, not to the others. But perhaps the others caught those vibes also. Still, she was more interesting to me than the bland look-alikes whose names I can't remember. > In any case, now that we are down to nine folks, who do you think will > win?? I think the big black guy has got a good chance. Yes, he's a contender I'd say. But near the end somebody might want to oust him because he's too much of a contender. What about the policeman? I don't think the short man (Walt?) is likely to last till the final rounds. Nor the older woman. I don't know about the various Bambis. They're all a glob in my mind. Jake seems to be getting along pretty well. He may last. And then there's the used-car salesman who got drunk. He also seems to be getting along well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:46:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EkZkq003854 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:46:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004141AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:44:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:44:47 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EilV31330 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:44:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1EihX07691 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:44:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC2935A.EF960B7C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:44:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101075727.009f7ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101083728.009f5160@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > seemed like she had an above-it-all attitude and was a bit of a whiner. I > realize of course that we only saw what they chose to show us. Yes and yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:48:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EmSkq003868 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:48:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BBFC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:46:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:46:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fqQv0+Oja+qefGS+5ebxK29+yfHJ3pZ+@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EaeV30104 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:36:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109612FE10 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DD8257C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:36:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Karen check your mailbox In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101093453.00a07450@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 9:35:18 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:36:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101143639.DD8257C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > Your socks are undoubtedly waiting for you down the street in your mailbox. Thank you, I will. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:49:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EnUkq003876 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:49:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004141DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:47:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:47:42 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1ElgV31704 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:47:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1ElfX09010 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:47:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC2940C.4F6A7D47@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:47:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever References: <20021101134054.29B467C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > It wasn't the fingers, it wasn't that she ate the heart and neck. I thought it was both. Didn't they talk about her in addition to what she ate? > I think she worked very hard. But remember the time she said something like she knew the puzzle answer in a flash but didn't share her knowledge. I can't remember the details -- like why she didn't want to help. I do remember her saying that she and somebody else (can't remember who) could have solved it in an instant. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:50:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EoIkq003880 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:50:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004141F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:48:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995574 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:48:31 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EmUV31970 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:48:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1EmSX09397 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:48:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29439.15EBA0F6@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:48:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? > > Well, we certainly wouldn't want you to change your style simply for one event. But I was thinking it would be fun to come dressed as a whore. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:51:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EpWkq003886 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:51:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BC00F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:49:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:49:45 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EniV32152 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:49:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1EnfX09996 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:49:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29484.5DF5E271@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:49:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > actually kinda funny, since most people don't even consider my hair to be > red anymore. I don't think of you as red-headed, though I'd probably throw in "strawberry" if asked what color your hair is -- as in strawberry blonde. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:52:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Eq2kq003890 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:52:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041421B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:50:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2994960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:50:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rdzT0Ogw2qAK7/XhWOqJ31XkjMa8BuMB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EeEV30766 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:40:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010AD2FDCB for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C4EDB7C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Nov 1, 2002 9:38: 3 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:40:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101144013.C4EDB7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > It's not been a great apple year. I can't believe I went half my life having > never eaten a Macoun apple, though. They are the best. And half Macoun, half > Granny Smith is the perfect apple pie combo. I think of Macouns as, uh, an old apple type. (Gala, I think of as a new type.) I have no idea if this is reflected in reality. But come to think of it, I haven't seen Macouns around here. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:53:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Erpkq003897 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:53:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414250@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:52:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:52:04 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Eq4V32544 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:52:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1Eq2X10989 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:52:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29511.EFA99B5E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:52:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Her smile afterwards was not a smile of relief. It was the smile of a > bully who has just inflicted grievous harm on someone else. Yes! I noticed that smile also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:54:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EsMkq003900 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:54:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BC04B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:52:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:52:31 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EqVV32578 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:52:31 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EqTc17526 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:52:29 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA1EqTRG031632; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:52:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101065419.00a98460@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:54:38 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC29439.15EBA0F6@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:48 AM 11/1/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > >but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? > > > > Well, we certainly wouldn't want you to change your style simply for > one event. > >But I was thinking it would be fun to come dressed as a whore. Hey, I have the t-shirt!! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:55:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Esxkq003904 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:55:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00414269@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:53:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:53:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:6zPC7Ewmwnx/19Go4s7IUi8ol6hF2Krg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EhBV31145 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:43:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0172FE10 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 428B67C0F; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:43:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Karen check your mailbox In-Reply-To: from Anne Toal at "Nov 1, 2002 8:41:34 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:43:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101144311.428B67C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal said: > Oh yuck, does she live in one of those mid-80's neighborhoods where they > installed cluster boxes? Duh. > I am so glad they've stopped doing that. They haven't stopped doing that here; newer homes have them, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:56:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1EuYkq003911 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:56:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414295@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:54:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:54:46 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EskV00403 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:54:46 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-132.panax.com [65.114.190.132]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Esjt29529 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:54:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095334.009f2380@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:54:37 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <3DC2940C.4F6A7D47@maynor.net> References: <20021101134054.29B467C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But remember the time she said something like she knew the puzzle answer >in a flash but didn't share her knowledge. I can't remember the details >-- like why she didn't want to help. I do remember her saying that she >and somebody else (can't remember who) could have solved it in an >instant. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I remember that. She thought she was so cool to deliberately throw the immunity challenge so that they could kick the one guy off the island. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:56:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Euskq003914 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:56:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004142A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:55:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995303 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:55:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:AIGYU50DzcExA1GaaRZ8o6dvjAkw1E33@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ej7V31418 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:45:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4CD2FDCB for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9DFE47C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:45:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <3DC29328.C87EDB76@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 8:43:52 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:45:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101144506.9DFE47C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > pretty well. He may last. And then there's the used-car salesman who > got drunk. He also seems to be getting along well. The porn star! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:57:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Evpkq003918 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:57:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004142BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:56:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:56:03 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Eu3V00673 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:56:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1Eu2X12374 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:56:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC295FC.708415D6@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:55:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021101065419.00a98460@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >But I was thinking it would be fun to come dressed as a whore. > > Hey, I have the t-shirt!! Me too, but the truth is that it doesn't look very whorish. I guess it might be something an off-duty whore might wear, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 08:57:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Evskq003921 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:57:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004142BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:56:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:56:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f7.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Eu6V00682 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:56:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:56:00 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:56:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:56:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 14:56:00.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAE1ECB0:01C281B6] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Dan Lester >Actually not. The SuperBowl is seen world wide by vast numbers, as an >example. Look at all the NFL shirts you see worn in other countries. Have you been to Europe? _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:00:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1F0Mkq003955 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:00:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004142E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:58:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:35 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EwYV01084 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:34 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-132.panax.com [65.114.190.132]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EwXt30320 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:33 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095716.009f51d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:58:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021101065419.00a98460@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3DC29439.15EBA0F6@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>But I was thinking it would be fun to come dressed as a whore. > >Hey, I have the t-shirt!! >Betty Be aware that we have no back yard to our home. Instead, we have two front yards. The party will be visible to all of the neighborhood. But that doesn't bother me any. Dress as you will. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:00:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1F0Wkq003958 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:00:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004142ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:58:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:44 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EwiV01111 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA1EwhG24037 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:58:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000001c281b7$6b69f6a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021101032129.CDF8F7C10@yellow.rahul.net> <001801c2816a$2c2a95a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021101061126.GB8136@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: Pandering Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:58:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- > On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:47:27PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > > Hm, according to http://www.hrw.org/press97/dec/sudwom1.htm (an old > > > page) the penalty for prostitution in Sudan is the death penalty. > > > > Wow. That is interesting. These newcomers > > have been getting into various kinds of trouble, > > and people then say, "Well, they just don't > > understand because such things aren't against > > the law where they come from", etc. > > Such a statement has all the symptoms of "clueless" practically > from syntax up, but I am curious who the people are who say this? I would say offhand that someone who said this was someone who was trying very very hard to find something kind to say. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:00:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1F0Xkq003961 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:00:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004142EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:58:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EwjV01116 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ewht30352 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:58:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095641.00b317b0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:57:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC29439.15EBA0F6@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:48 AM 11/1/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > >but has a dress code been established? Can we come dressed as whores? > > > > Well, we certainly wouldn't want you to change your style simply for > one event. > >But I was thinking it would be fun to come dressed as a whore. I thought that your style. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:01:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1F1Dkq003964 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:01:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004142F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:59:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:59:26 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ptI/22CFxIoezyWh/eGQhamWVe2aOL2w@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EnPV32123 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:49:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA722FDEA for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 011F67C10; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:49:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <3DC2940C.4F6A7D47@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 8:47:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:49:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101144924.011F67C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > It wasn't the fingers, it wasn't that she ate the heart and neck. > > I thought it was both. Didn't they talk about her
in > addition to what she ate? I don't remember that. > > I think she worked very hard. > > But remember the time she said something like she knew the puzzle answer > in a flash but didn't share her knowledge. I can't remember the details > -- like why she didn't want to help. I do remember her saying that she > and somebody else (can't remember who) could have solved it in an > instant. Or this. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:01:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1F1dkq003967 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:01:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004142FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 9:59:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:59:52 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1ExpV01255 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:59:51 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-132.panax.com [65.114.190.132]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Exot30557 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:59:50 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095856.00a0bb90@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:59:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <20021101144506.9DFE47C0D@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC29328.C87EDB76@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Natalie Maynor said: > > pretty well. He may last. And then there's the used-car salesman who > > got drunk. He also seems to be getting along well. > >The porn star! --Karen I thought he was the porn star. I wonder if the others know that. I'll bet, before it's over, they will discuss that on the island. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:02:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1F2Bkq003973 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:02:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041430A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:00:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2995723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:00:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YpXK41qF+vPhaMbLya8Va0tZA44RxsSP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EoOV32272 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:50:24 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7192FE38 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B420F7C1D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:50:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3DC29484.5DF5E271@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 8:49:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:50:23 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101145023.B420F7C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Marie Ascher wrote: > > actually kinda funny, since most people don't even consider my hair to be > > red anymore. > > I don't think of you as red-headed, though I'd probably throw in > "strawberry" if asked what color your hair is -- as in strawberry > blonde. When did Marie go blonde? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:08:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1F8Fkq004015 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:08:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414394@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:06:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:06:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:9ug3BG/zlhy6800Ifav0YvzLyFH7F4ON@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1EuSV00748 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:56:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011C92FDD0 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B6EE87C12; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:56:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095334.009f2380@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 9:54:37 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:56:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101145627.B6EE87C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >But remember the time she said something like she knew the puzzle answer > >in a flash but didn't share her knowledge. I can't remember the details > >-- like why she didn't want to help. I do remember her saying that she > >and somebody else (can't remember who) could have solved it in an > >instant. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I remember that. She thought she was so cool to deliberately throw the > immunity challenge so that they could kick the one guy off the island. I remember her talking about this ahead of time. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:11:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FBakq004072 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:11:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004143CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:09:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:09:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LfDeZjKTvSSbAwxkCVpmffo60OU6rrQQ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1ExiV01233 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:59:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8032FDC5 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EA8657C0E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:59:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095716.009f51d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 9:58:25 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:59:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101145943.EA8657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > Be aware that we have no back yard to our home. Instead, we have two front > yards. How can you have two front yards? Does your house have two fronts? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:12:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FClkq004079 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:12:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004143EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:10:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2996602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:10:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:gnQ53JarY+jh+OKHfn0dRe+LNuJxaM2f@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1F0xV01467 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:00:59 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBF62FDD0 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B17707C0E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor, Day whatever In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095856.00a0bb90@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 9:59:39 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101150058.B17707C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Natalie Maynor said: > > > pretty well. He may last. And then there's the used-car salesman who > > > got drunk. He also seems to be getting along well. > > > >The porn star! --Karen > > I thought he was the porn star. I wonder if the others know that. I'll > bet, before it's over, they will discuss that on the island. But I bet they don't show it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:14:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FE5kq004120 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:14:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004143FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:12:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:12:17 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FCHV03125 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:12:17 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust106.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.108]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:12:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC29A61.7577E2C0@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:14:41 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam References: <4.2.2.20021031190630.00a7fec0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021101063131.00a253d0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Happy birthday, Adam. Bless your heart. love and XXX alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:19:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FJCkq004240 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:19:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041447E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:17:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:17:24 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FHOV04041 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:17:24 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-132.panax.com [65.114.190.132]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FHMt01128 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:17:23 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101101259.009f3280@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:17:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021101145943.EA8657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095716.009f51d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >How can you have two front yards? Does your house have two fronts? >Karen Yes, the house has two fronts. And the property runs between two streets. The true front of the house faces Forest Street. The lilacs are there and the yard isn't very deep at all. The sidewalk runs up to the front door. The false front of the house is where the driveway is and the deck. It fronts on Pine Street. There is a deeper yard there. I'll probably set up a food table under the white pine tree. The yard is deeper on this side. Political pollsters and the like often walk the neighborhood and come to both our front door and our back door. From the front the house looks like a typical Cape Cod. From the back the house looks more modern. To the casual observer the house really does look quite different, like two different houses. The neighborhood kids know it is one house and only come to the front to solicit for bottles, candy-selling, Halloween, etc. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:23:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FNPkq004268 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:23:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BC476@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:21:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:21:37 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FLbV04650 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:21:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1FLZX21263 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:21:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29BFE.C2C1A66F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:21:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <20021101145023.B420F7C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > When did Marie go blonde? Afaicr, her hair has been the same color every time I've met her -- what I would call strawberry blonde. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:25:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FPAkq004278 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:25:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BC4B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:23:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2997569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:23:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FDMV03419 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:13:22 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1FDLVO010091 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:13:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:13:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: <3DC29A61.7577E2C0@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >Happy birthday, Adam. Bless your heart. Indeed! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:25:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FPckq004284 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:25:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041450D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:23:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:23:51 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FNoV05014 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:23:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1FNmX22022 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:23:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29C7E.94B65ACC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:23:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > >From: Dan Lester > >Actually not. The SuperBowl is seen world wide by vast numbers, as an > >example. Look at all the NFL shirts you see worn in other countries. > > Have you been to Europe? "Other countries" doesn't have to mean Europe. I'd guess that more US-related shirts are worn in Asia than in Europe, though I haven't any idea whether I've ever seen an NFL shirt anywhere since I'm not sure that I would recognize one as such. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:27:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FR4kq004293 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:27:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041452E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:25:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:25:16 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FPGV05298 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:25:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1FPEX22543 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:25:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29CD6.58C68361@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:25:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095641.00b317b0@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >But I was thinking it would be fun to come dressed as a whore. > > I thought that your style. No, you're getting list characters mixed up. I'm the one who doesn't dress as a whore. The back of the t-shirt might be good for me to wear, though, since the shirt isn't whorish looking yet the back is about home-wreckers. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:28:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FSakq004301 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:28:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BC54C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:26:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:26:48 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FQmV05603 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:26:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA1FQlX23094 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:26:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC29D36.7E818953@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:26:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021101145943.EA8657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > How can you have two front yards? Does your house have two fronts? I think most houses have a side that's usually its front, but I've known lots of houses that are not totally clear on which the front is -- the house sits between two streets, with the looking like a possible . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:34:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FY5kq004339 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:34:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004145CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:32:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998255 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:32:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:DbyqXV8bVzHCbuGx+3Gy1O/81gs1HHwo@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FMFV04786 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:22:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DD62FD15 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 302237C12; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101101259.009f3280@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 10:17:14 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101152215.302237C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > The neighborhood kids know it is one house and only come > to the front to solicit for bottles, candy-selling, Halloween, etc. Smart kids! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:34:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FYakq004344 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:34:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004145D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:32:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:32:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:V5HO/e1IUHiPAlyuD4sSDnQC6UJagTLU@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FMkV04845 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:22:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221762FDFA for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 883207C11; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:22:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <3DC29BFE.C2C1A66F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 9:21:34 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:22:45 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101152245.883207C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > When did Marie go blonde? > > Afaicr, her hair has been the same color every time I've met her -- what > I would call strawberry blonde. Hm. I thought it was too dark to be strawberry blonde. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:38:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Fcpkq004368 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:38:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041463A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:36:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FaxV07128 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:36:59 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Favt05255 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:36:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101103631.00b551f8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:36:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC29CD6.58C68361@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182211.009f9d00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC0626A.EBE4B38F@maynor.net> <20021030151353.5CCD47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114631.00a046f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030195229.00a0eb00@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030221917.009fc900@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021031080550.00b3a320@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021031164106.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021031170146.00a7eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101084823.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095641.00b317b0@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:25 AM 11/1/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > >But I was thinking it would be fun to come dressed as a whore. > > > > I thought that your style. > >No, you're getting list characters mixed up. I'm the one who doesn't >dress as a whore. well, if you say so... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:39:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Fdckq004372 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:39:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414651@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2999694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:49 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FbnV07299 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Fbmt05436 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101103725.00b60740@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:37:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021101145943.EA8657C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101095716.009f51d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:59 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: >bonniev said: > > Be aware that we have no back yard to our home. Instead, we have two front > > yards. > >How can you have two front yards? Does your house have two fronts? > >Karen Doesn't everybody's? cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:39:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Fddkq004374 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00414652@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 2998726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:37:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8niXQgvqIBnkvQFeyP52nTYOZcwv6Yly@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FRpV05781 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:27:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F07E2FD15 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5068A7C0F; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:27:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC29D36.7E818953@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 9:26:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:27:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101152750.5068A7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > How can you have two front yards? Does your house have two fronts? > > I think most houses have a side that's usually its front, > but I've known lots of houses that are not totally clear on which the > front is -- the house sits between two streets, with the looking > like a possible . I've never seen such a narrow block. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 09:53:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1FrDkq004443 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:53:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00414793@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3000937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FpPV09699 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:25 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1FpOt08504 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101104901.00b63948@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:51:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021101152750.5068A7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC29D36.7E818953@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:27 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: >I've never seen such a narrow block. > >Karen It's only narrow at one end. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 10:04:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1G4ukq004510 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:04:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004148AB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:03:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3001876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:03:08 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1G38V11459 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:03:08 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-170.panax.com [63.163.41.170]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1G37t10810 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:03:07 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101105903.00a11860@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:59:52 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101104901.00b63948@mail.panax.com> References: <20021101152750.5068A7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC29D36.7E818953@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>I've never seen such a narrow block. >>Karen > >It's only narrow at one end. >cwv The two streets from a triangle. We are the second house in from the peak of the triangle. Only our house and the peak house face both streets. Maybe you can see it here: http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3d55df88.22f57.655f.4/c=3/formName=setclickpost --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 10:22:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1GMhkq004582 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:22:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414A9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:20:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:20:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:TUgnX8+/q/DWKpc8elX3ubntHIhJQHqO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1GAsV13654 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:10:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A332FE47 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EE70C7C0C; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:10:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101103725.00b60740@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 1, 2002 10:37:39 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:10:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101161053.EE70C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 06:59 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >bonniev said: > > > Be aware that we have no back yard to our home. Instead, we have two front > > > yards. > > > >How can you have two front yards? Does your house have two fronts? > > > >Karen > > Doesn't everybody's? No. Only people who have been to Europe.:) Did I tell you that I'm planning to take a free baking class from King Arthur himself? Then I can bug them with all my questions. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 10:23:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1GNLkq004586 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:23:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414AAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:21:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3002977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:21:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hXbuF+vyEDKG4kQrABBvQIk231y4n2KU@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1GBXV13791 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:11:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0890C2FD83 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CFD837C09; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:11:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101104901.00b63948@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 1, 2002 10:51:16 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:11:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101161132.CFD837C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 07:27 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >I've never seen such a narrow block. > > > >Karen > > It's only narrow at one end. Mm. I'm used to square blocks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 10:26:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1GQ9kq004599 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:26:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00414AFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:24:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3003208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:24:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:KWhIYocAYcjY3b9e9wZfm3RH6LLA+qph@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1GEKV14310 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:14:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E472FE47 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BD1E07C1A; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:14:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101105903.00a11860@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 10:59:52 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:14:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101161419.BD1E07C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >>I've never seen such a narrow block. > >>Karen > > > >It's only narrow at one end. > >cwv > > The two streets from a triangle. We are the second house in from the peak > of the triangle. Only our house and the peak house face both streets. > > Maybe you can see it here: > > http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3d55df88.22f57.655f.4/c=3/formName=setclickpost I mapquested it. You live on an infinity symbol! Kewl! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 10:27:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1GRXkq004610 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:27:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BCE13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3004456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:25:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1GPgV16949 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:25:42 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1GPet15311 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:25:40 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101112141.00b50b70@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:25:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101105903.00a11860@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101104901.00b63948@mail.panax.com> <20021101152750.5068A7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC29D36.7E818953@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:59 AM 11/1/2002 -0500, bonnie wrote: >>>I've never seen such a narrow block. >>>Karen >> >>It's only narrow at one end. >>cwv > >The two streets from a triangle. We are the second house in from the peak >of the triangle. Only our house and the peak house face both streets. So far. There is a rumor that the bank has a buyer for the former greenhouse property, that everything now on the property will be removed, and four houses will be built there. No idea yet just how the property will be divided. The same rumor has work (at least, demolition) to begin yet this fall. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 10:41:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Gfokq004678 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:41:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00414C66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3005869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:01 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ge1V19892 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:01 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Gdxt17876 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:00 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101112618.00b6b380@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:30:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021101161053.EE70C7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101103725.00b60740@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:10 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Did I tell you that I'm planning to take a free baking class from King >Arthur himself? Then I can bug them with all my questions. I presume that you are not commuting to Norwich, VT for it. Their store in Norwich is very nice. Interestingly, I can buy KA flour (regular, unbleached) more cheaply in Ellsworth than at their store. I come away with about five pounds of Italian-style flour and the raspberry/white chocolate scone mix. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 10:41:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Gfqkq004681 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:41:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00414C67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3005873 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:03 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ge3V19899 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:03 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ge2t17890 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:40:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101113035.00b62490@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:36:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021101161419.BD1E07C1A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101105903.00a11860@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:14 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >I mapquested it. You live on an infinity symbol! Kewl! Yeah---sort of a warped, not-quite-complete infinity symbol. We call it the Bar Harbor Triangle. The entrance from the highway (Eagle Lake Road--233) is Forest Street. Then at the split (as you enter from 233), Forest St. continues to the left; the right leg becomes Pine St. Pine St. also extends back from the split to curve around and finally hit Eagle Lake road a bit further up the hill---that intersection is less apparent from 233. Somewhere at the large end of the loop, Pine becomes Forest and vice-versa. It's always fun to field the confused inquirys from UPS and other delivery types. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:00:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1H0bkq004802 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:00:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00414E06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:58:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:58:48 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1GwmV22718 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:58:48 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Gwlt21347 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:58:47 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101115708.00a0e870@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:58:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <20021101161419.BD1E07C1A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101105903.00a11860@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3d55df88.22f57.655f.4/c=3/formName=setclickpost > >I mapquested it. You live on an infinity symbol! Kewl! >Karen Mapquest actually has it wrong. We live in the middle of the infinity symbol, where the figure eight intersects. They have the red star right on Smitty's house instead of ours. Mapsonus has it right. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:02:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1H2dkq004809 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:02:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BD24E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:00:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3007486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:00:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ryi1r0lcIpgaE4VGndu5ycy0eucw2LqI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1H0pV23027 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:00:51 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9842FE2A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 65DD72B58E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457542B57A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:00:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:00:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: <3DC29A61.7577E2C0@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Happy birthday, Adam. Bless your heart. > love and XXX > alyce Is it still Adam's birthday? I haven't been paying attention. Happy Birthday Adam in any case. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:15:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1HFFkq004871 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:15:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BD41C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:13:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3008828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:13:27 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1HDRV25880 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:13:27 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.1]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4W001I2QIEGU@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:13:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:14:45 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: My day off To: words-l Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC2B685.4000502@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mom bought me an LE flannel shirt -- said it was marked way down, and I know why -- the colors are hideous. It has that fabulous shade of prison jumpsuit orange in it. Since that color happens to be that of Webster Groves High, where we buy all the clothing in that color *so you don't have to*, it works out for me. (Yes, the hallways can be a fashion horror show on home game days.) I love LE flannel because it feels so wonderful. Today is a beautiful cold fall day. I stepped out this morning to deliver Ana to school and I was overpowered by that wonderful spicey aroma of decaying leaves mixed with somebody's wood smoke. I was contemplating sleeping all day today since I was exhausted to the point of weepiness yesterday, but now I'm energized and I'm going to rake later on. I think the exhaustion was people overload, not necessarily physical exhaustion, so being by myself all morning is working wonders. I am trying very hard to not eat so much of Ana's Halloween candy that she'll notice when she gets home. On a related note, Webster Groves's Turkey Day hoopla (it is really called Turkey Day and functions as Homecoming for the school) will be featured in Sports Illustrated the week after Thanksgiving if anybody reads that publication. This Diary-a brought to you by the letters "W", "G", the number "1," and the color orange. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:24:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1HONkq004909 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:24:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041504C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:22:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3008810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:22:34 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7tC/RQH46Uph8npRfxvP6BJPfE9m+RM/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1HCYV25808 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:12:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBED2FE18 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:12:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 654577C09; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:12:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101112618.00b6b380@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 1, 2002 11:30:18 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:12:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101171233.654577C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > I presume that you are not commuting to Norwich, VT for it. Good presumption! There's one in Austin, in an impossible location, and one in Round Rock which is very easy. > Their store in Norwich is very nice. Interestingly, I can buy KA flour > (regular, unbleached) more cheaply in Ellsworth than at their > store. You can buy several kinds of flour at the HEB here. > I come away with about five pounds of Italian-style flour and > the raspberry/white chocolate scone mix. Oh. My. God. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:24:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1HOOkq004912 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:24:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041504C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:22:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3009669 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:22:35 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1HMYV27742 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:22:34 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust246.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.248]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2B8EA.F71BDE6F@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:24:58 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021101152215.302237C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > bonniev said: > > The neighborhood kids know it is one house and only come > > to the front to solicit for bottles, candy-selling, Halloween, etc. > > Smart kids! Stupid kids. They could get twice as much by going to both doors. They could put on disguises over their disguises. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:27:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1HRmkq004957 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:27:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041509E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:25:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3009001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:26:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8BIWkUpo11rkpzjwA2IjmC91d+gISSR0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1HG0V26170 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:16:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155AE2FE29 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C4EE27C0F; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:15:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101113035.00b62490@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 1, 2002 11:36:51 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:15:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101171559.C4EE27C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 08:14 AM 11/1/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > > >I mapquested it. You live on an infinity symbol! Kewl! > > Yeah---sort of a warped, not-quite-complete infinity symbol. Well, Mapquest makes it look complete: http://tinyurl.com/2dfk . I guess you have to include part of Eagle Lake Rd. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:28:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1HSfkq004968 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:28:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BD5AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:26:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3009068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:26:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Re+gX5Ykpzs9NHfJVBZaAstKHUHpveLa@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1HGpV26265 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:16:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186EE2FE33 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:16:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DB3E57C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:16:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101115708.00a0e870@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 11:58:20 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:16:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101171650.DB3E57C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > > > > http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3d55df88.22f57.655f.4/c=3/formName=setclickpost > > > >I mapquested it. You live on an infinity symbol! Kewl! > >Karen > > Mapquest actually has it wrong. We live in the middle of the infinity > symbol, where the figure eight intersects. They have the red star right on > Smitty's house instead of ours. Mapsonus has it right. Not surprised that it's wrong. But living in the middle is even kewler. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 11:53:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Hr7kq005094 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:53:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004152AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:51:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3012248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:51:18 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1HpIV01689 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:51:18 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:51:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2BFA8.4E53F78@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:53:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Phone weirdness Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I use ATT for my long distance @ 7 cents a minute. Ken is in California, so I have been using it a lot, and he has been calling me collect from his motel. Suddenly last night, I dialed California and got a recording that I am not authorized to use my phone and to call 1-800-645-0005. When I do that, there is a voice mail that says to put in the area code and number from which I am calling. Well, I ain't agonna to that. The phone company is on the case. This is scary. I so depend on long distance for personal and business use, but I am closed out unless I use Ken's phone, which is not so handy, or else the phone line that I have the computer on. But neither of those has my 7 cents plan. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 12:17:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1IHgkq005226 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:17:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041548A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:15:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:15:53 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1IFqV05951 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:15:52 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1IFp331914 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:15:51 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA1IFoRG008411 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:15:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101101548.00a99460@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:17:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Phone weirdness In-Reply-To: <3DC2BFA8.4E53F78@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:53 PM 11/1/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I use ATT for my long distance @ 7 cents a minute. Ken is in California, >so I have been using it a lot, and he has been calling me collect from >his motel. Suddenly last night, I dialed California and got a recording >that I am not authorized to use my phone and to call 1-800-645-0005. >When I do that, there is a voice mail that says to put in the area code >and number from which I am calling. Well, I ain't agonna to that. The >phone company is on the case. >This is scary. I so depend on long distance for personal and business >use, but I am closed out unless I use Ken's phone, which is not so >handy, or else the phone line that I have the computer on. But neither >of those has my 7 cents plan. > >alyce There is a cheaper plan that Bonnie told me about. Can't think of the name right now but you can sign up on line. Maybe she can remember. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 12:21:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1ILRkq005250 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:21:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BDA88@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:19:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3014415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:19:34 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1IJYV06694 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:19:34 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:19:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2C647.3D4107AC@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 13:21:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <4.2.2.20021101101548.00a99460@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > There is a cheaper plan that Bonnie told me about. Can't think of the name > right now but you can sign up on line. Maybe she can remember. > Yabbut, I have this one because it includes 7 cents to Canada (for when Ken is up there). Of course, with them going to LA soon, I won't need that. But right now, I want to be able to have my ATT. Ken can't call me collect, and he needs to in order not to pay the motel surcharge. alyce > Betty -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 12:36:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Iajkq005318 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:36:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BDC31@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:34:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:34:56 -0500 Received: from idiom.com (root@idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1IYuV09042 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:34:56 -0500 Received: from idiom.com (sharon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by idiom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gA1IYtpR003211 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sharon@idiom.com) Received: from localhost (sharon@localhost) by idiom.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id gA1IYtWM003207 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sharon@idiom.com) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:34:55 -0800 (PST) From: Sharon Ziperovich To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness In-Reply-To: <3DC2C647.3D4107AC@valstar.net> Message-ID: <20021101103409.D2701-100000@idiom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU He could get a prepaid calling card. They've gotten more expensive, but still probably cheaper than what the hotel charges for long distance. Sharon On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > Betty wrote: > > > There is a cheaper plan that Bonnie told me about. Can't think of the name > > right now but you can sign up on line. Maybe she can remember. > > > Yabbut, I have this one because it includes 7 cents to Canada (for when > Ken is up there). Of course, with them going to LA soon, I won't need > that. But right now, I want to be able to have my ATT. Ken can't call me > collect, and he needs to in order not to pay the motel surcharge. > > alyce > > Betty > > > -- > alyce cresap, books & ephemera > po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 > 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net > http://www.alybooks.com > charter member: IOBA > independent on-line booksellers association > selling books since 1963 > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 12:43:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1IhNkq005350 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:43:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041569F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:41:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3015947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:41:34 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1IfYV09934 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:41:34 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15473 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 13:41:33 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 13:41:30 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:41:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Phone weirdness Message-ID: <3DC28482.6324.B91C5A6@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC2C647.3D4107AC@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I use USADatanet. It does not require switching your long distance carrier because they give you a local access number that gets you into the system. I can call anywhere in the Northeast for 10cents a minute up to a maximum of 99cents (i.e. after 10 minutes the call is free). Anywhere else in the US or Canada it's 10 cents a minute with a max of 1.99 There is no monthly fee or connection charge or any other hidden fee and they bill you. I use it a lot and it has saved me a bundle. If you make short calls, it's not the answer, but if you talk for hours, it's a life saver. BrP > Betty wrote: > > > There is a cheaper plan that Bonnie told me about. Can't think of the name > > right now but you can sign up on line. Maybe she can remember. > > > Yabbut, I have this one because it includes 7 cents to Canada (for when > Ken is up there). Of course, with them going to LA soon, I won't need > that. But right now, I want to be able to have my ATT. Ken can't call me > collect, and he needs to in order not to pay the motel surcharge. > > alyce > > Betty > > > -- > alyce cresap, books & ephemera > po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 > 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net > http://www.alybooks.com > charter member: IOBA > independent on-line booksellers association > selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 12:58:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Iw9kq005456 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:58:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004157BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:56:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3016993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:56:20 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1IuKV12221 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:56:20 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1IuI309695 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:56:18 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA1IuIRG012455 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:56:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101105636.00aa8c80@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 10:58:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <3DC2BFA8.4E53F78@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I know you have to sort out your phone problem now but later check this out. http://www.onesuite.com/ I have a local access number so I only pay 2.5 per minute instead of the 2.9 I think it expires if you don't use it up within a certain period of time but you don't have to buy a bunch to start with. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:03:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1J3Qkq005503 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:03:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041584E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:01:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3017551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:01:36 -0500 Received: from cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.83]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1J1aV13672 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:01:36 -0500 Received: from computer ([206.214.45.90]) by cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:58:49 -0800 Message-ID: <008901c281d8$d728f5a0$5a2dd6ce@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <929714294.1036016832@LAPLAND> <1493241370.20021031075519@gailndan.com> Subject: Re: Re: spies R Us Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:59:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 18:58:50.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[B73D4480:01C281D8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lester" To: Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: spies R Us > Come to our library. We have video cam on the exit, shoots a still > every 0.4 seconds. Have caught two bad guys with it in the six months > we've had it. One a serial public masturbator, another our latest > foot fondler/licker. > > -- Did the masturbator perform for you? alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:27:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1JRHkq005702 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:27:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BE213@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:25:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3019539 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:25:27 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JOwV18506 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:24:58 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:24:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2D588.65A43E09@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:27:04 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: It is a small world Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU For some odd reason, the same subjects come up on various lists at the same time, and it is not because I crossed boundaries. See this from a book list: Hey Don, butter? Why not lard.. with a little mayo for texture -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:33:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1JXKkq005766 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:33:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BE31D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:31:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:31:31 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JVVV20817 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:31:31 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:31:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2D71A.125AEC31@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:33:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <20021101103409.D2701-100000@idiom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sharon Ziperovich wrote: > > He could get a prepaid calling card. They've gotten more expensive, but > still probably cheaper than what the hotel charges for long distance. Yes, coulda and shoulda. But he never intended to be needing it for two weeks. He found it harder to rent an apartment than anticipated. THings have changed in the San Fernando Valley real estate market since he left in 1998. In any case, he leaves tomorrow, and that will be the end of it. Meanwhile, ATT Security called. It turns out that they cut me off because, in their constant monitoring of accounts, they discerned this unusual activity of a lot of collect calls. Instead of calling to ask me about this, they simply blocked my account and sent me a letter, which I will get next week sometime. They cut me off at 9:30 last night. I asked why they didn't call and they said they are not allowed to call after 9 pm. The man said I should have dialed the 800 number. When I said I was afraid to punch in my number, he said, "But it says that it is ATT Security." I told him that it says nothing at all about what it is, and told him to try it himself. Anyway, they immediately reconnected me, but this is not customer friendly. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:38:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Jc1kq005820 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:38:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BE392@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:36:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:36:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JaBV21974 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:36:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:36:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2D83C.90B2827C@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:38:36 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <3DC28482.6324.B91C5A6@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > I use USADatanet. It does not require switching your long distance carrier because > they give you a local access number that gets you into the system. I can call > anywhere in the Northeast for 10cents a minute up to a maximum of 99cents (i.e. > after 10 minutes the call is free). Anywhere else in the US or Canada it's 10 cents a > minute with a max of 1.99 There is no monthly fee or connection charge or any > other hidden fee and they bill you. I use it a lot and it has saved me a bundle. If you > make short calls, it's not the answer, but if you talk for hours, it's a life saver. > My calls usually are short, because I am an e-mailer, not a phone-talker. This was just an unusual situation because Ken was in LA searching for an apartment for two weeks. Btw, he uses that 10-10-220 or whatever it is for long chats to Quebec and I think that is only 99 cents for long calls. We figure that with his normal rate of 7 cents, the 99 cents becomes a bargain if he talks for 15 minutes or more. No change to your long distance system for that one either. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:39:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1JdEkq005879 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:39:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00415B5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:37:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3020983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:37:24 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JbOV22143 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:37:24 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:37:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2D87F.A5665F93@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:39:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada References: <4.2.2.20021101105636.00aa8c80@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > I know you have to sort out your phone problem now but later check this out. > > http://www.onesuite.com/ > > I have a local access number so I only pay 2.5 per minute instead of the 2.9 > > I think it expires if you don't use it up within a certain period of time > but you don't have to buy a bunch to start with. Thanks alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:46:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Jk2kq005944 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:46:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00415BF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:44:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3021862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:44:12 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JiCV24051 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:44:12 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2DA1C.E313B6F4@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:46:36 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Nigerian scam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Unbelievable story here. A bookseller (who is not at all bright, as I knew before this happened) received an order for 12 copies of Black's Law 7th edition from Nigeria. She doesn't have them. N.B. Everyone but me has been besieged with orders for this title from Nigeria and it has been discussed widely on the Bookfinder Insider list to which she subscribes. En tout cas, instead of ignoring this obvious scam, she answered the letter, said she didn't have the books, but would look for them from other dealers. Duh. And today she says, "They have gone too far now. They faxed me a "Notification of your overdue contract payment" -- at 4:30 this morning -- and woke me up. I'm going to forward everything to the feds. I got another of the usual scam emails this morning, which I usually just delete. But the fax machine is going too far. It uses my paper and wakes me up." alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:47:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1JlEkq005957 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:47:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00415C15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3022103 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:24 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JjOV24564 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:24 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18761 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 14:45:24 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 14:39:38 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:39:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Phone weirdness Message-ID: <3DC29227.11427.BC7103C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC2D83C.90B2827C@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Their ads say 99 cents for up to 20 minutes and 7 cents per after that BrP > > Btw, he uses that 10-10-220 or whatever it is for long chats to Quebec > and I think that is only 99 cents for long calls. We figure that with > his normal rate of 7 cents, the 99 cents becomes a bargain if he talks > for 15 minutes or more. No change to your long distance system for that > one either. > > alyce > -- > alyce cresap, books & ephemera > po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 > 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net > http://www.alybooks.com > charter member: IOBA > independent on-line booksellers association > selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:47:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1JlKkq005961 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:47:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00415C19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3022125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:31 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JjVV24601 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:31 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18813 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 14:45:31 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 14:40:47 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:40:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada Message-ID: <3DC29265.1882.BC80352@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC2D87F.A5665F93@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's snowing in Syracuse. Happy November. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:47:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1JlZkq005965 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:47:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00415C1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3022136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:45 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f96.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.96]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JjjV24619 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:45:45 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:45:40 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:45:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:45:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 19:45:40.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[41D45600:01C281DF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay >I think of Macouns as, uh, an old apple type. (Gala, I think of as a new >type.) I have no idea if this is reflected in reality. Probably. But Macouns are much better than Galas. They are the perfect apple. Crisp, snappy, not too sweet-not too tart, juicy. They taste like Fall. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:55:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Jtfkq006103 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:55:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00415CE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:53:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023004 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:53:52 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JrpV26715 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:53:51 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Jrnt02836 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:53:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101144642.00b5ad20@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:53:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: front door/other front door: was Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC2B8EA.F71BDE6F@valstar.net> References: <20021101152215.302237C12@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:24 PM 11/1/2002 -0500, alyce wrote: >Stupid kids. They could get twice as much by going to both doors. This is the time of the campaign when candidates here on MDI do their house-to-house bit. A candidate for state representative was just in the neighborhood. He bills himslef (this time around) as "Democratic ideas from and INdependent Republican." This somehow seems to rival the "Compassionate Consumerism" or whatever of a couple of years ago. Anyhow, I saw him coming and so didn't answer the door. He hit both front and other front doors, leaving the same hang-on-the-doorhandle flyer with the cutesy "Sorry I missed you. Bob" Right, Bob---you sorry. My guess is that you will lose once again. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 13:57:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Jvwkq006138 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:57:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BE60D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:56:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:56:08 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ju8V26965 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:56:08 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2DCE1.B7C0AA7C@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:58:25 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <3DC29227.11427.BC7103C@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > Their ads say 99 cents for up to 20 minutes and 7 cents per after that > Yes, that is right. I meant, but didn't explain well, that they figured that if they were going to talk longer than 15 minutes, they might as well talk 20. That it was cheaper to do that than to pay 16 x 7 to ATT. So why don't you use that instead of the $1.99 one? alyce -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:03:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1K3Bkq006263 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:03:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00415D6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:01:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3023473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:01:21 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1K1LV27893 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:01:21 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27193 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 15:01:20 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 15:01:07 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:00:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Phone weirdness Message-ID: <3DC2972A.3095.BDAA363@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC2DCE1.B7C0AA7C@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > > > Their ads say 99 cents for up to 20 minutes and 7 cents per after that > > > Yes, that is right. I meant, but didn't explain well, that they figured > that if they were going to talk longer than 15 minutes, they might as > well talk 20. That it was cheaper to do that than to pay 16 x 7 to ATT. > So why don't you use that instead of the $1.99 one? > > alyce because I often talk for a couple hours 120 min @1.99 = roughly 1.7 cents per minute BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:04:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1K4Skq006288 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:04:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BE6A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:02:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3022931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:02:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8Buv3KL2SpmKun3UTGj/7ooaXcrRkzfq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1JqdV26563 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:52:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8D12FE0D for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:52:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D77A27C16; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:52:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Nov 1, 2002 2:45:39 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:52:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101195237.D77A27C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > >I think of Macouns as, uh, an old apple type. (Gala, I think of as a new > >type.) I have no idea if this is reflected in reality. > > Probably. But Macouns are much better than Galas. They are the perfect > apple. Crisp, snappy, not too sweet-not too tart, juicy. They taste like > Fall. Yes--they defined it for me for many years. But I unhappily report that I could find no Macouns today. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:10:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1KA9kq006333 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:10:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00415E12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:08:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:08:19 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1K8JV29514 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:08:19 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:08:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2DFC3.50A8324A@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:10:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <3DC2972A.3095.BDAA363@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > 120 min @1.99 = roughly 1.7 cents per minute Oh. I thought the 99 cents was for unlimited time. I am glad I don't have to know this stuff. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:15:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1KF0kq006386 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:15:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00415E8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:13:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:13:10 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KDAV30447 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:13:10 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03768 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 15:13:08 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 15:12:54 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:12:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Phone weirdness Message-ID: <3DC299F0.22098.BE57B41@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC2DFC3.50A8324A@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU *sigh* 99 cents is the maximum rate if I call anywhere in NY, New England, PA, DE, MD 1.99 is the maximum if I call anywhere else in the US or Canada it really isn't a lot to know BrP > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > 120 min @1.99 = roughly 1.7 cents per minute > > Oh. I thought the 99 cents was for unlimited time. I am glad I don't > have to know this stuff. > > alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:15:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1KF2kq006409 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:15:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00415E8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:13:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:13:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f11.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.11]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KDCV30451 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:13:12 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:13:06 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:13:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: New York Day 1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:13:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 20:13:06.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[172AB7B0:01C281E3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So, Tushar, what happened on Day 2? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:26:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1KQjkq006514 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:26:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00415F81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:24:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:24:55 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KOtV00623 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:24:55 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2E3A6.F84854F3@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:27:18 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <3DC299F0.22098.BE57B41@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > *sigh* > > 99 cents is the maximum rate if I call anywhere in NY, New England, PA, DE, MD > > 1.99 is the maximum if I call anywhere else in the US or Canada > > it really isn't a lot to know I suppose not, but I have so much else on my platter that I don't want to clutter my head, especially because I so rarely make a long distance call, and if I do, it doesn't last more than a minute or two. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:27:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1KRYkq006525 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:27:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00415F8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:25:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3024801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:25:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3oFLILME0Q2E/qNL3bEQ++wUGsC1tSeG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KFhV30803 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:15:43 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486362FE31 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:15:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EA2D77C10; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:15:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <3DC29265.1882.BC80352@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 1, 2002 2:40:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:15:42 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101201542.EA2D77C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > It's snowing in Syracuse. Happy November. That makes 57 degrees sound balmy.:) (I'd feel better about it if a) I could afford to heat my house and b) I could find my sweatshirt. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:40:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1KeIkq006716 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:40:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004160A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:38:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3025978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:38:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ggxEvK5ewSDHd11vmmSjlK/KDXLRLVrg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KSRV01339 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:28:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBB9D2FDCF for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:28:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 83E357C0E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:28:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Voting, Texas Style To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:28:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101202826.83E357C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well. I just got back from voting. Texas has this system of early voting. Basically, voting starts two weeks before the election, and stops the Friday before the Tuesday of the election. I decided to vote early because that way, I could use the cool new machines instead of the sucky pokey method. The new machines are very clear--there's a pointing device, and you have to click Enter to vote. I have never voted for so many Republicans and Libertarians in my entire life.:( Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:41:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Kf3kq006720 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:41:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004160B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:39:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3026861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:39:13 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KdCV03549 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:39:13 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KdAt12233 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:39:10 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101145401.00b34438@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 14:56:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <3DC29265.1882.BC80352@localhost> References: <3DC2D87F.A5665F93@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:40 PM 11/1/2002 -0500, BrP wrote: >It's snowing in Syracuse. Happy November. The forecast here is for rain changing to snow this evening, perhaps some accumulation. It's drizzling right now. The town public works people must be taking it seriously; this morning I saw one of the big orange dump trucks with its wing plow mounted. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:54:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Ks6kq006898 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:54:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004161BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:52:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3027989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:52:12 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KqCV05982 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:52:12 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-56.panax.com [63.163.41.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KqBt14865 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:52:11 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101155120.009fbb30@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:52:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Phone weirdness In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021101101548.00a99460@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3DC2BFA8.4E53F78@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >There is a cheaper plan that Bonnie told me about. Can't think of the name >right now but you can sign up on line. Maybe she can remember. >Betty http://www.onesuite.com/ 2.5 cents a minute. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:55:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1KtMkq006906 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:55:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004161D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:53:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:53:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f15.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KrWV06204 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:53:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:53:26 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:53:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:53:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 20:53:26.0902 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9C70960:01C281E8] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: >I have never voted for so many Republicans and Libertarians in my >entire life.:( Why the long face? _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 14:57:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Kvbkq006952 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:57:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416203@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:55:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:55:47 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KtlV06548 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:55:47 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:55:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:58:09 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <20021101202826.83E357C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I have never voted for so many Republicans and Libertarians in my > entire life.:( > I am sorry to hear this. I cannot understand why anyone would do that. I guess you are a real Texan now. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:00:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1L0Jkq007002 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:00:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416235@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:58:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:58:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KwTV07148 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:58:29 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-56.panax.com [63.163.41.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1KwRt16196 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:58:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101155742.00a0f840@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:58:17 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <20021101201542.EA2D77C10@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC29265.1882.BC80352@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That makes 57 degrees sound balmy.:) (I'd feel better about it if a) >I could afford to heat my house and b) I could find my sweatshirt. >Karen I take it you haven't made the effort to get your lazy ass out of the house to walk down to the mailbox?! --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:01:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1L0xkq007021 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:01:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BED51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:59:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:59:10 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Kx9V07222 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:59:09 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:59:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2EBAB.3533D89E@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:01:31 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.thedailyreporter.com/display/inn_news/news1.txt FBI after people who bought $50 playstations at Walmart. This is an absolutely incredible article (from Michigan). -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:02:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1L2okq007028 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:02:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416267@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:01:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:01:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1L0xV07534 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:00:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-56.panax.com [63.163.41.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1L0wt16675 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:00:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101155956.00a0c6c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:00:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Phone weirdness In-Reply-To: <3DC2E3A6.F84854F3@valstar.net> References: <3DC299F0.22098.BE57B41@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > because I so rarely make a long distance >call, and if I do, it doesn't last more than a minute or two. >alyce What? Earlier you said: "This is scary. I so depend on long distance for personal and business use" Which is it? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:05:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1L5Akq007046 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:05:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041628C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:03:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3028858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:03:20 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1L2tV08015 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:02:55 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28217 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 16:02:53 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 16:02:50 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:02:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style Message-ID: <3DC2A5A0.11199.C1320BA@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU There are only a few races that I care about in this year's election. I would be totally thrilled to see Jeb lose in FL, I would be totally thrilled to see Fritz win in MN. Locally, the only one I care about is seeing Bill Sanford lose(sorry Bonnie) in the State Assembly race (redistricting has pitted him against a woman who is a personal friend and a damned fine Representative). There's obviously nothing I can do about FL or MN, but I'll be out just after 6am next Tuesday pulling the lever under Joan's name for sure. BrP > Karen Kay wrote: > > I have never voted for so many Republicans and Libertarians in my > > entire life.:( > > > I am sorry to hear this. I cannot understand why anyone would do that. I > guess you are a real Texan now. > > alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:06:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1L6vkq007068 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:06:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004162AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:05:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:05:06 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1L56V08420 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:05:06 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2ECE1.A65C651E@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:06:41 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <3DC299F0.22098.BE57B41@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101155956.00a0c6c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > What? Earlier you said: "This is scary. I so depend on long distance for > personal and business > use" Which is it? It is the ability to be able to call a customer back, but which I seldom have to do, and the ability to call a family member in an emergency (which I pray does not happen). Dependence does not necessarily imply frequency. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:09:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1L9Skq007080 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:09:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004162F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:07:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:07:38 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1L7cV08926 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:07:38 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00528 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 16:07:37 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 16:07:10 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:07:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act Message-ID: <3DC2A6A5.4517.C171D88@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC2EBAB.3533D89E@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Last night on As It Happens they were talking about some poor fool who crossed the line from Quebec into Vermont to buy gas (reported to be 15 metres over the line) and got into big trouble with the INS for having a hunting rifle in his car. BrP > http://www.thedailyreporter.com/display/inn_news/news1.txt > > FBI after people who bought $50 playstations at Walmart. > This is an absolutely incredible article (from Michigan). > -- > alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:10:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1LAJkq007088 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:10:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BEE48@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:08:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:08:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1L8TV09092 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:08:29 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-56.panax.com [63.163.41.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1L8Rt18416 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:08:27 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101160732.00a147c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:08:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <3DC2A5A0.11199.C1320BA@localhost> References: <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >the only one I care about is seeing Bill Sanford lose(sorry Bonnie) in the >State Assembly race (redistricting has pitted him against a woman who is a >personal >friend and a damned fine Representative). --BrP That's alright, brother Paul. I never thought he was one of the good guys in any case. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:12:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1LCOkq007096 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:12:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BEE6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:10:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:10:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LA5V09444 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:10:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-56.panax.com [63.163.41.56]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LA3t18801 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:10:04 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101160850.00a12790@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:09:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101160732.00a147c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DC2A5A0.11199.C1320BA@localhost> <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>the only one I care about is seeing Bill Sanford lose(sorry Bonnie) in the >>State Assembly race (redistricting has pitted him against a woman who is a >>personal friend and a damned fine Representative). --BrP > >That's alright, brother Paul. I never thought he was one of the good guys >in any case. --bonniev Clyde and I are both suspicious of ex-rowers in important positions. Too many brain cells lost during oxygen deprivation on the rowing erg. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:16:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1LGskq007163 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:16:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416398@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:15:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3029959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:15:04 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LF4V11111 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:15:04 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.1]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4X0019X1P4JR@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:15:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:16:23 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC2EF27.5080808@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DC2A6A5.4517.C171D88@localhost> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, there are certain things that buying in large quantities can get you busted. Around here, it is the ingredients for manufacturing methamphetamines (cold medicine, plastic tubing, and ammonia, I think). Speaking of meth manufacturing, a kid disapeared at the beginning of the month out in a rural area, and the search parties have been shot at, etc. when they've come upon the meth camps out in the woods. That particular drug is rampant around here. Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > Last night on As It Happens they were talking about some poor fool who crossed the > line from Quebec into Vermont to buy gas (reported to be 15 metres over the line) > and got into big trouble with the INS for having a hunting rifle in his car. > > BrP > > > > > > >>http://www.thedailyreporter.com/display/inn_news/news1.txt >> >>FBI after people who bought $50 playstations at Walmart. >>This is an absolutely incredible article (from Michigan). >>-- >>alyce >> > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:18:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1LILkq007182 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:18:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004163A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:16:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3030009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:16:31 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LGVV11301 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:16:31 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05098 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:16:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 16:16:30 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 1 Nov 02 16:15:59 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:15:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style Message-ID: <3DC2A8BE.31826.C1F4FF1@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101160850.00a12790@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101160732.00a147c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Clyde and I are both suspicious of ex-rowers in important positions. Too > many brain cells lost during oxygen deprivation on the rowing erg. > > > --bonniev LOL If I had any respect for him, I lost it with the way he has run this campaign. All of his ads have been aimed at showing his opponent as bad rather than showing himself as being any good. I really hate that. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:39:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1LdMkq007426 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:39:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416554@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:37:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3030922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:37:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+NPg0f7rX5Y5vHER3cBA7k4b+YCofc4I@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LRVV14010 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:27:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EAD2FE7F for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B01B57C09; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:27:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: from Rashmi Murthy at "Nov 1, 2002 8:53:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:27:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101212723.B01B57C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy said: > Karen: > >I have never voted for so many Republicans and Libertarians in my > >entire life.:( > > Why the long face? I couldn't force myself to vote for either the Rep or Dem governor candidate. That feels . Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:40:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1LeUkq007434 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:40:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416579@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:38:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3030990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:38:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tVEsnqLEg1cUQaqKIBHiOy+mzWzmV4l+@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LSdV14208 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:28:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AAA2FE43 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC9D07C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:28:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 1, 2002 3:58: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:28:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101212838.DC9D07C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I have never voted for so many Republicans and Libertarians in my > > entire life.:( > > > I am sorry to hear this. I cannot understand why anyone would do > that. Because there are a lot of slimy or unsuitable Democrats. Or both the Rep and Dem are slimy. > I guess you are a real Texan now. I don't define myself as a Texan--doubt if I ever will. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:43:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1LhRkq007481 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:43:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004165A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:41:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3032384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:41:37 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LfbV17653 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:41:37 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.1]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4X0014L2XCKV@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:41:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 15:42:55 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Amazon's Ruby To: words-l Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC2F55F.4040108@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Eh, not so great. Although tempted by the $30 to spend on books if I spend $50 on the clothes site, I can't find what I want (LE turtlenecks I was going to order anyway), the site is clumsy to navigate, the clothing is full price (who pays full price for clothing?), and half the stuff doesn't even have a picture. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:45:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Lj6kq007515 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:45:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BF1FD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:43:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3032588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:43:15 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1LhFV18131 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:43:15 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA00512 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:43:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C287138699; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:43:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:43:14 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act Message-ID: <20021101214314.GB26905@pobox.com> References: <3DC2EBAB.3533D89E@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC2EBAB.3533D89E@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:01:31PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > http://www.thedailyreporter.com/display/inn_news/news1.txt > > FBI after people who bought $50 playstations at Walmart. > This is an absolutely incredible article (from Michigan). There are microchips in there which can do "three-dimensional mapping". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:52:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Lqxkq007595 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:52:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416664@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:51:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:51:08 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Lp8V19991 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:51:08 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust243.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.245]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:51:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC2F7D4.959BC94E@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:53:24 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act References: <3DC2EBAB.3533D89E@valstar.net> <20021101214314.GB26905@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > There are microchips in there which can do "three-dimensional > mapping". Then ban the sale of this things. If I have 9 nephews and nieces and buy each of them a playstation, am I a terrorist threat? Sheesh. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 15:59:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Lxukq007682 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:59:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041670B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:58:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3033021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:58:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:IAe9BOqKhERlJk/56ACP0DDQwm3yMizI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Lm6V19107 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:48:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9282FDD0 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AB7EE7C10; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:48:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101155742.00a0f840@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 3:58:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:48:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101214805.AB7EE7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I take it you haven't made the effort to get your lazy ass out of the house > to walk down to the mailbox?! Well, evidently the PO has the same idea about my laziness because they TOOK MY MAIL from me. I have to go to the PO. I decided to come back and start the soup instead. Is zucchini *and* spinach overkill? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:04:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1M4Tkq007785 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:04:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004167BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:02:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3035270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:02:38 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1M2cV22614 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:02:38 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id QAA10954 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:02:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 73B2038699; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:02:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:02:37 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021101220237.GA4340@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 09:36:01AM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > >From: Tushar Samant > >Ghod ... OK, I went back and it turns out to be "Mandar", which > >is a male name. > > Is there any way having not known a Mandar (that I remember) to know that -- A very good point, Marie. I don't know. Never thought about it. > e.g. are all Indian "-ar" names male? > Do female names tend to end in vowels? The first is mostly true for IE names. As for the second point, vowel-ending implies female much more than the other way round, I think. I should be charging for all this high-quality info. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:11:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1MBvkq007875 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:11:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041687E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:10:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3036044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:10:07 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MA6V23814 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:10:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.147.1bee39a (2519) for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:09:56 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <147.1bee39a.2af455b4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:09:56 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Adam To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I didn't know you had a birthday yesterday, Adam. HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:15:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1MFEkq007932 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:15:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BF69B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:13:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3036288 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:13:23 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MDNV24328 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:13:23 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id QAA15866 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:13:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D62D338699; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:13:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:13:21 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act Message-ID: <20021101221321.GB4340@pobox.com> References: <3DC2EBAB.3533D89E@valstar.net> <20021101214314.GB26905@pobox.com> <3DC2F7D4.959BC94E@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC2F7D4.959BC94E@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:53:24PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > There are microchips in there which can do "three-dimensional > > mapping". > > Then ban the sale of this things. If I have 9 nephews and nieces and > buy each of them a playstation, am I a terrorist threat? Sheesh. This may be what happened: Walmart employee is asked by foreign- looking guys for playstations. He is feeling "non-specifically" hostile for other reasons. He brings a couple of them in. They ask him for more. He asks why. They say something lame. He says he can only sell two at a time. They get "irate". He calls the FBI. This may have nothing to do with the "real" investigation, which has apparently focused on less than a handful of suspects. Not sure what any of this has to do with PATRIOT ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:31:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1MVCkq008181 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:31:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BF790@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:29:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:29:17 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MTHV26332 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:29:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101223057.NQLU7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:30:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30038.FC42BD4E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:29:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021101152750.5068A7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I think most houses have a side that's usually its front, > > but I've known lots of houses that are not totally clear on which the > > front is -- the house sits between two streets, with the looking > > like a possible . > > I've never seen such a narrow block. Who said anything about the yard size? In thinking of the houses I've known well, they've almost all had very big yards. Nothing narrow atall. For one thing, lots of people buy two lots when they decide to build a house -- side-by-side in some cases, back-to-back in others. By back-to-back I mean that one lot one street, the other a different street. Or sometimes houses exist before one of the streets even existed. Like somebody decides to sell off part of their acreage for other houses to be built, before roads are necessarily built. One road goes in front of their house, another behind it. In some cases, of course, the yards are relatively small like when a house is the last one on a corner that's the tip of a triangle. Etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:34:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1MYRkq008281 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:34:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416A0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:32:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:32:37 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MWbV26703 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:32:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101223416.NSRM7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:34:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC300FF.17C03118@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:32:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021101161419.BD1E07C1A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I mapquested it. You live on an infinity symbol! Kewl! What I noticed was the penis sticking out of the box where is says "St." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:39:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1MdBkq008391 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:39:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BF7FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:37:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:37:20 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MbKV27135 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:37:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101223900.NWJT7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:39:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3021B.16A91A73@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:37:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <3DC2B685.4000502@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > necessarily physical exhaustion, so being by myself all > morning is working wonders. How are you managing to be by yourself all morning? Is this another yankee holiday? > school) will be featured in Sports Illustrated the week > after Thanksgiving if anybody reads that publication. I bet they have an online edition. Please remind us that week. Speaking of online editions, I am upset with the Knoxville paper, Bethany. I was trying to find an obituary to find out what happened to somebody, as in why she died, but found that except for a few famous people the online edition of the paper has only "death notices" -- as in a list of names and ages. > This Diary-a brought to you by the letters "W", "G", the > number "1," and the color orange. Thank you. I enjoyed it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:42:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Mg0kq008421 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:42:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416A80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:40:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:40:09 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Me9V27407 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:40:09 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.197.fef8643 (2519) for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:40:02 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <197.fef8643.2af45cc1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:40:01 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Phone weirdness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/01/2002 11:51:57 AM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << Suddenly last night, I dialed California and got a recording that I am not authorized to use my phone and to call 1-800-645-0005. >> Did ATT put a hold on your long distance? When we moved out here, SW Bell put a $200 limit on our long distance; calls from Tom to Mona approached that limit (he still hasn't paid Mom all that he owes her from that). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:44:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1MiEkq008434 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:44:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BF83A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:42:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:42:23 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MgNV27623 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:42:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101224402.OALI7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:44:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30349.A3E3C5C7@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:42:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Probably. But Macouns are much better than Galas. They are the perfect > apple. Crisp, snappy, not too sweet-not too tart, juicy. They taste like > Fall. My favorite kind in the past year or so is named Pink Lady. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:47:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Mldkq008486 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:47:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416AD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:45:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:45:48 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MjmV27971 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:45:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101224726.ODIO7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:47:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30415.3CB0504B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:45:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada References: <20021101201542.EA2D77C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > That makes 57 degrees sound balmy.:) (I'd feel better about it if a) > I could afford to heat my house and b) I could find my sweatshirt. How are your feet? Have you made the journey to your mailbox yet to pick up your bonniesox? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:49:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1MnBkq008523 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:49:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BF868@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:47:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:47:20 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MlKV28240 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:47:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101224900.OERB7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:49:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30473.115C6AF@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:47:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <20021101202826.83E357C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I have never voted for so many Republicans and Libertarians in my > entire life.:( Why did you vote for all those Republicans? You never did explain exactly what was wrong with Kirk, btw. You just said he was scum, iirc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:51:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Mptkq008542 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:51:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416B0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:50:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3037900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:50:04 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Mo4V28441 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:50:04 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.202.1]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4X001RQ63GKV@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:50:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:51:23 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: My day off To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC3056B.5020904@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DC2B685.4000502@swbell.net> <3DC3021B.16A91A73@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>necessarily physical exhaustion, so being by myself all >>morning is working wonders. >> > > How are you managing to be by yourself all morning? Is this another > yankee holiday? No, Missouri is not Yankeeland. It is essentially a comp day for the 10 extra evening hours I worked last week for parent teacher conferences. FWIW, I don't remember the teachers getting a day off after conferences in Yankeeland. Ana went to school this morning as her conferences are next week. > >>school) will be featured in Sports Illustrated the week >>after Thanksgiving if anybody reads that publication. >> > > I bet they have an online edition. Please remind us that week. OK. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 16:58:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Mwdkq008575 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:58:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416B70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:56:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:56:49 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MumV28897 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:56:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101225827.OLUC7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC306AA.88ECDB98@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:56:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <20021101202826.83E357C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I am sorry to hear this. I cannot understand why anyone would do that. I > guess you are a real Texan now. Please do not associate being a real [whatever state] with how the votes in that state tend to go. I would if you suggested that I was not a real Mississippian, yet I often disagree with the majority of voters in the state. I'm feeling even more outraged about politics today, having found my mailbox stuffed full of expensive Republican distortions. Chip Pickering is now picturing criminals in striped suits on his fliers. Yesterday it was about "poor Aunt Sally." The day before it was about "snake oil." All of these fliers show pictures of Shows with a sneaky look in his eyes -- some kind of very bad picture that Chippy's lackeys found somewhere and doctored up. Shows is far from my kind of person -- way, way too conservative. But he also is the least sneaky politician I can imagine. I think it was also yesterday that I got a letter from Chippy's mother talking about how those nasty Democrats had done bad things to her husband (he was the judge appointee who got zapped -- Bethany once asked me about him) and saying that we need to make sure that good people like her chipmunk son are in control. Chip Pickering is obnoxious. Imho, of course. I'm sure his mother loves him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:00:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1N06kq008605 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:00:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416B8E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:15 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MwFV28998 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MwCt10137 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:13 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101173858.00b62490@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:39:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <20021101214805.AB7EE7C10@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101155742.00a0f840@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:48 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Is zucchini *and* spinach overkill? The Z vegetable, in and of itself, is overkill. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:00:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1N08kq008608 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:00:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416B8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:18 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MwHV29005 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:18 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MwGt10147 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:58:16 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101174259.00b6b5f0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:58:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <3DC2A8BE.31826.C1F4FF1@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101160850.00a12790@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101160732.00a147c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:15 PM 11/1/2002 -0500, BrP wrote: >If I had any respect for him, I lost it with the way he has run this >campaign. All of his >ads have been aimed at showing his opponent as bad rather than showing himself >as being any good. I really hate that. As you may remember, we got to know Bill Sanford because he and his crew came to Oak Ridge each March for spring training. We sort of inherited Bill and his group from the fellow in the rowing association who had handled spring training for years. Bill is OK as an individual; as a referee, I never had any trouble with Bill or his crews. Moreover, he always was appreciative of the efforts we made in spring training to help him, prepare his crews, etc. That being said, Bill left a bit to be desired. As the head crew coach, he raised nepotism to a high art in his program. He also drove off a very gifted womens' crew coach (and after she left, surprise! Bill's daughter took over); his best assistant also left, to be replaced by Bill's brother or brother-in-law. One year, his mens' crew trashed the Oak Ridge motel in which they were staying (to his credit, they paid the bill). As a coach, if you looked at the competitive record, he was so-so. Bill is the sort of person that it is enjoyable to have a couple of beers with and talk, but that's about it. I have no insights into him as a politician---my guess is that now that he has retired ( retired?) as a crew coach, his local political standing is about all he has left and he is fighting to hold onto it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:04:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1N4Zkq008630 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:04:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416C3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:02:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039139 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:01:36 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail114.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1N1aV29778 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:01:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.59]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101230315.OFQF1391.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:03:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC307CB.43347AF7@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:01:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Amazon's Ruby References: <3DC2F55F.4040108@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I want (LE turtlenecks I was going to order anyway), the What's LE? I started to ask you when you mentioned it in relation to flannel earlier. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:06:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1N6Zkq008637 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:06:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFA91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:04:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:04:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:odrwqvSIml3qZEPYRDfBYLRvtfPWj2UR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MshV28781 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:54:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6936A2FE32 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1923E7C15; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:54:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Never mind In-Reply-To: <3DC30038.FC42BD4E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 4:29:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:54:42 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101225443.1923E7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I think most houses have a side that's usually its front, > > > but I've known lots of houses that are not totally clear on which the > > > front is -- the house sits between two streets, with the looking > > > like a possible . > > > > I've never seen such a narrow block. > > Who said anything about the yard size? Not me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:07:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1N7Xkq008641 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:07:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416C80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:05:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:05:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:pnI/ULVXJ1E75Oak9hzMABZ0Uwl4ibaR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MtfV28834 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:55:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7AE2FDC5 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 12D727C0F; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:55:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC3021B.16A91A73@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 4:37:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:55:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Speaking of online editions, I am upset with the Knoxville paper, > Bethany. I was trying to find an obituary to find out what happened to > somebody, as in why she died, but found that except for a few famous > people the online edition of the paper has only "death notices" -- as in > a list of names and ages. Obitiuaries don't often list a cause of death. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:08:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1N8Skq008649 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:08:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFABA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:06:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:06:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:UGMnYmW6gCC+N8rDlJ4B/9T00USkhqp/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MubV28876 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:56:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD652FE17 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 61F157C0C; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:56:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <3DC30473.115C6AF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 4:47:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:56:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101225636.61F157C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Why did you vote for all those Republicans? Because I like them better than the alternatives. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:11:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NBdkq008667 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFAE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:09:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3038106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:09:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:oOAzllhweGthdDeQCquFv4SuLmJCeFyj@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1MxmV29089 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:59:48 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8514A2FE5C for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0DD507C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:59:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101173858.00b62490@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 1, 2002 5:39:50 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:59:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101225947.0DD507C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 01:48 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > >Is zucchini *and* spinach overkill? > > The Z vegetable, in and of itself, is overkill. Well, I stuck with the S veg. The soup smells fabulous. I think it's time to eat. At least some. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:11:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NBokq008671 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:11:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416CD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:09:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:09:59 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1N9wV30682 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:09:58 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1N9wb06690; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:09:58 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gA1N8Zv14135; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:08:35 -0500 Message-ID: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "FacSen-L" , Subject: 'Cronkite, on WWIII Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:08:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU fyi... http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0809&id=021101053417288722 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:13:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NDekq008682 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:13:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416CFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:11:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:11:49 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NBnV30847 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:11:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.68]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101231328.ZHRC14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:13:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30A2F.345B8574@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:11:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <20021101225443.1923E7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I think most houses have a side that's usually its front, > > > > but I've known lots of houses that are not totally clear on which the > > > > front is -- the house sits between two streets, with the looking > > > > like a possible . > > > > > > I've never seen such a narrow block. > > > > Who said anything about the yard size? > > Not me. So what did you mean by "narrow block" if it wasn't about yard size? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:15:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NFvkq008719 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFB0F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:14:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:14:06 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NE5V31016 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:14:06 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-164.panax.com [63.163.41.164]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NE4t13270 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:14:04 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101181322.00a1ed20@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:13:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <20021101225947.0DD507C0D@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101173858.00b62490@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, I stuck with the S veg. The soup smells fabulous. I think it's >time to eat. At least some. --Karen We are having soup also. But Clyde is baking fresh Italian flat bread to go with it. Yum. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:16:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NG7kq008722 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:16:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFB13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:14:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039324 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:14:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jS5XbZq6uCcxVEnFc9YkUHfLcPYpl1kV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1N4FV30095 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:04:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736E82FE95 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1F1AC7C0E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Amazon's Ruby In-Reply-To: <3DC307CB.43347AF7@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 5: 1:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:04:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101230415.1F1AC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > > I want (LE turtlenecks I was going to order anyway), the > > What's LE? I started to ask you when you mentioned it in relation to > flannel earlier. Land's End. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:17:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NHbkq008727 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:17:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416D44@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:15:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:15:46 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NFkV31134 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:15:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.68]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101231725.ZKOJ14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:17:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30B1C.2FB2A86C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:15:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <3DC2B685.4000502@swbell.net> <3DC3021B.16A91A73@maynor.net> <3DC3056B.5020904@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > No, Missouri is not Yankeeland. Iyho. > It is essentially a comp day > for the 10 extra evening hours I worked last week for parent > teacher conferences. FWIW, I don't remember the teachers > getting a day off after conferences in Yankeeland. Ana went > to school this morning as her conferences are next week. So is school closed totally -- as in the students get a holiday because the teachers have worked extra hours? I don't mean to suggest that that's a bad thing. I realize that schools usually go x number of days per year and that the x's are pretty close everywhere. It's just that I've never heard of such a thing before. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:23:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NN2kq008753 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:23:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFB42@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:21:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:21:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:MMDucVxEcOIwYWxb9t5cwVEqO/MKk1Zd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NB7V30831 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:11:08 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686B32FDF3 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1F8AD7C14; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:11:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <3DC30415.3CB0504B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 4:45:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:11:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101231107.1F8AD7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > That makes 57 degrees sound balmy.:) (I'd feel better about it if a) > > I could afford to heat my house and b) I could find my sweatshirt. > > How are your feet? Have you made the journey to your mailbox yet to > pick up your bonniesox? I went to the post office and chatted with a young Jewish man about an upcoming trip to Israel for about half an hour while we waited for our numbers to be called. Got my mail--the BonnieSox was the straw that broke the camel's back, evidently, since they were right on top. They are gorgeous. I like this wool a lot, Bonnie. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:25:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NP9kq008792 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:25:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416D9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:23:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3039942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:23:18 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NNHV31605 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:23:17 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-117.panax.com [65.114.190.117]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NNGt15014 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:23:16 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101182129.00a22ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:23:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <20021101231107.1F8AD7C14@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC30415.3CB0504B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >They are gorgeous. I like this wool a lot, Bonnie. >Karen Oh, good. I'm glad. That yarn is all the rage in knitting circles this season! I might try to make sweaters for two little boys out of it because now safety people are saying that little boys and girls shouldn't be strapped into their car seats wearing heavy sweaters or winter coats. That yarn is thin enough that it won't matter. Yet, it's wool and warm. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:34:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NY4kq008854 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:34:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416E24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:32:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:32:13 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NWDV32255 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:32:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101233353.PUQQ282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:33:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30EF6.E00EFAF0@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:32:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Obitiuaries don't often list a cause of death. I know. But they occasionally do and sometimes give clues. My complaint is simply that the Knoxville newspaper apparently doesn't include real obituaries in its online edition. The reason I'm interested is that I am shocked by a short obituary in today's Jackson paper. I think I told the story here once before about a very small-worldish situation that involved Knoxville. Long story that I won't bore you with, but its gist is that my second cousin moved to Kville in middle-aged as a divorced mother of adult children, and ended up marrying the only non-UT-related person Boyd and I had known in Kville. She was apparently in good health a few months ago when she wrote my mother about the death of her aunt (of this person's aunt, not my mother's aunt -- Beth was a cousin on my father's side of the family). In today's Jackson paper there was a very short obituary saying that Beth had died Tuesday. She was 62. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:36:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Nawkq008865 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:36:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFB99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:35:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:35:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NZ6V32484 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:35:06 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-81.panax.com [63.163.41.81]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NZ5t17455 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:35:05 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101183400.009e3310@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:34:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC30EF6.E00EFAF0@maynor.net> References: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >only non-UT-related person Boyd and I had known in >Kville. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) "Boyd" ?? !! You married someone named Boyd?? Wow. Where was he from? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:37:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Nb6kq008868 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:37:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416E56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:35:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:35:14 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NZEV32490 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:35:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101233653.PXAJ282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC30FAD.CE4FE2B8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:35:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <20021101225636.61F157C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Why did you vote for all those Republicans? > > Because I like them better than the alternatives. I've done that on a few occasions. I'm not a yellow-dog. But those occasions are rare and are becoming rarer and rarer. I would indeed vote for a yellow dog before voting for Trent Lott or Chip Pickering. I wouldn't vote for Booty Hunt over Thad Cochran, though. Booty died not long ago. No more Booty on ballots. That will seem strange. He ran for one thing or another in just about every election. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:37:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Nbwkq008874 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:37:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFBA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:36:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040013 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:36:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vNBJPH0zRJ88RWecatSz2ha8tJPxQMIL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NQ6V31828 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:26:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375AB2FDF3 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D568E7C10; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:26:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101182129.00a22ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 1, 2002 6:23: 5 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:26:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101232605.D568E7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >They are gorgeous. I like this wool a lot, Bonnie. > >Karen > > Oh, good. I'm glad. That yarn is all the rage in knitting circles this > season! I might try to make sweaters for two little boys out of it because > now safety people are saying that little boys and girls shouldn't be > strapped into their car seats wearing heavy sweaters or winter coats. That > yarn is thin enough that it won't matter. Yet, it's wool and warm. If I wore sweaters, I'd want one out of this wool. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:39:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NdZkq008882 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:39:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00416E7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:37:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:37:44 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NbiV32713 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:37:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101233923.PZIP282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:39:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC31042.F8B5AE95@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:37:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII References: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > > fyi... > > http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0809&id=021101053417288722 He speaks truth, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:40:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NePkq008894 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:40:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416E85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:38:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:38:34 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NcXV00305 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:38:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101234013.QACJ282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:40:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC31074.A7447AE1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:38:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Amazon's Ruby References: <20021101230415.1F1AC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > What's LE? I started to ask you when you mentioned it in relation to > > flannel earlier. > > Land's End. Thank you. I thought it was some special kind of flannel. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:41:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Nfukq008902 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:41:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416EA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:40:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:40:05 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1Ne5V00430 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:40:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101234144.QBPK282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:41:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC310CF.9CD63AEB@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:39:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada References: <3DC30415.3CB0504B@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101182129.00a22ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > season! I might try to make sweaters for two little boys out of it because Specific little boys or just random ones? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:45:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1Nj5kq008938 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:45:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416EE3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:43:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:43:14 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NhEV00604 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:43:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021101234453.QEHV282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:44:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3118C.22640519@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:43:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101183400.009e3310@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > "Boyd" ?? !! You married someone named Boyd?? Wow. Where was he from? Why is this ? And have I not said his name before? Yes, his name was Boyd. It's funny that I can't remember now exactly where in Mississippi he was born. I remember that it was an accident -- as in he was born somewhere that his parents were just passing through. It's weird that I no longer remember where. He was basically from Forest, MS. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:48:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NmPkq008963 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:48:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00416F1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:46:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:46:34 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Tqt73mfXJYxpG6dd+jIVQRmlOmUhI9cy@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NaYV32593 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:36:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01AE62FDE4 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:36:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9852D7C14; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:36:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <3DC30FAD.CE4FE2B8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 5:35: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:36:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021101233633.9852D7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Why did you vote for all those Republicans? > > > > Because I like them better than the alternatives. > > I've done that on a few occasions. I'm not a yellow-dog. But those > occasions are rare and are becoming rarer and rarer. I would indeed > vote for a yellow dog before voting for Trent Lott or Chip > Pickering. That's why I voted for so many Libertarians. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 17:51:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA1NpAkq008975 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:51:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00416F5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:49:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3040863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:49:19 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA1NnJV01286 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:49:19 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA1NnHl01846 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:49:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c28201$8c78cb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> <3DC31042.F8B5AE95@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:51:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > fyi... > > > > http://my.aol.com/news/news_story.psp?type=4&cat=0809&id=021101053417288 722 > > He speaks truth, imho. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's a scary situation. At least I'm scared. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:03:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA203Tkq009069 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:03:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041704E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:01:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:01:38 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA201bV02154 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:01:38 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.28]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4X9AZ00.39M for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:59:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC315AD.3B38D270@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 17:00:45 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act References: <3DC2A6A5.4517.C171D88@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > Last night on As It Happens they were talking about some poor fool who crossed the > line from Quebec into Vermont to buy gas (reported to be 15 metres over the line) > and got into big trouble with the INS for having a hunting rifle in his car. The INS? He's lucky our Neighbors To The North didn't send him to Baffin Island for twenty years to chip guano. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:16:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20Gokq009199 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:16:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417182@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:14:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:14:59 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail116.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20ExV04428 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:14:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.44]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102001638.UPOJ18448.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:16:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC318FB.5977C3A@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:14:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII References: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> <3DC31042.F8B5AE95@maynor.net> <001401c28201$8c78cb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > It's a scary situation. At least > I'm scared. Maybe I was simply more naive or less sensitive to what was happening or whatever in past times, but I find today's world the scariest of my memory. Yes, I realize that some parts of the world have been dealing with mega-scariness for many years. And no, I don't mean to suggest that "today's world" has to mean from a US perspective. I really do mean today's world. For some people in some places, today's world is no scarier than it's ever been. But I think for a large number of people throughout the world it's scarier. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:19:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20JAkq009221 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:19:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFD49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:17:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041776 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:17:19 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail116.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20HJV04820 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:17:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.44]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102001858.UQMH18448.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:18:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC31989.B0926262@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:17:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act References: <3DC2A6A5.4517.C171D88@localhost> <3DC315AD.3B38D270@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > > Last night on As It Happens they were talking about some poor fool who crossed the > > line from Quebec into Vermont to buy gas (reported to be 15 metres over the line) > > and got into big trouble with the INS for having a hunting rifle in his car. > > The INS? He's lucky our Neighbors To The North didn't send him to Baffin Island > for twenty years to chip guano. I started to reply to BrP that I would guess he'd have more trouble returning to Canada -- based on that funny (to me) questioning I got from the Canadian official about "fire arms" at the border near Jackman, Maine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:20:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20K9kq009232 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:20:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFD55@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:18:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3041404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:18:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mKqWg0e5WdDpersW19GXDux8c8IfqCga@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA208HV02953 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:08:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0562FE21 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53A0C7C0F; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:08:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My mind is blown-PATRIOT Act In-Reply-To: <20021101214314.GB26905@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 1, 2002 3:43:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:08:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102000816.53A0C7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 04:01:31PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > > http://www.thedailyreporter.com/display/inn_news/news1.txt > > > > FBI after people who bought $50 playstations at Walmart. > > This is an absolutely incredible article (from Michigan). > > There are microchips in there which can do "three-dimensional > mapping". Why is that , Sister Moon? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:30:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20U2kq019702 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:30:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFDB1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:28:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:28:11 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20SAV05904 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:28:10 -0500 Received: from [12.236.98.59] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021102002805.VKQP8743.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.98.59]> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:28:05 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101162259.02f771b0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 16:27:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII In-Reply-To: <3DC318FB.5977C3A@maynor.net> References: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> <3DC31042.F8B5AE95@maynor.net> <001401c28201$8c78cb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >But I think for a large number of people throughout the world it's scarier. Progress marches forward. I like this essay on "Complexity, Trust and Terror" . It's kind of about how the more complex a system, the more likely it will fall down go boom. The author's conclusion: "Fortunately, the richness of human knowledge includes workable systems alternative to today's complex, power-centered, globally extended, increasingly war-hungry dinosaurs. The construction of more peaceful, resilient systems can be accomplished through imaginative efforts (many of them well underway) aimed at living lightly on the earth with justice and compassion. Moving steadily along this path could also help eliminate grievances in the world's population that now serve as spawning grounds for terrorist attacks." And on war-as-palatable-product, "Branding New and Improved Wars" . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:37:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20b2kq019732 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:37:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFDFF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:35:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:35:10 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20ZAV06665 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:35:10 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-209.panax.com [63.163.41.209]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20Z8t28861 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:35:08 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193432.00a160c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:34:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <3DC310CF.9CD63AEB@maynor.net> References: <3DC30415.3CB0504B@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101182129.00a22ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > season! I might try to make sweaters for two little boys out of it because > >Specific little boys or just random ones? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Noah and Willem Ring. Very specific. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:42:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20gGkq019754 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:42:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004173D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:40:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:40:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20eOV07260 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:40:24 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-209.panax.com [63.163.41.209]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20eJt29929 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:40:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193526.00a000b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:36:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC3118C.22640519@maynor.net> References: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101183400.009e3310@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > "Boyd" ?? !! You married someone named Boyd?? Wow. Where was he from? > >Why is this ? And have I not said his name before? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) It's not all that significant. It's just that you never said his name before even though we have seen a picture of the two of you camping. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:46:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20kbkq019800 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:46:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041743B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:46 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20ijV07599 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-221.panax.com [63.163.41.221]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20ibt30835 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193829.00b42930@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:39:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <20021101233633.9852D7C14@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC30FAD.CE4FE2B8@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:36 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >That's why I voted for so many Libertarians. From what I've seen, Libertarians are basically defrocked Republicans. Even so, a "good" Libertarian is better than a bad Democrat. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:51:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20pYkq019822 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:51:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004174B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:49:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:49:40 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20neV07991 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:49:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC321B1.F2530AC7@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:52:01 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: oppai uranai Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Breasts bare a bird's true character By Ryann Connell Staff writer October 29, 2002 It is called "oppai uranai" --- telling a woman's fortune according to the shape of her breasts. There may be something Freudian about it, but all men ever need to know about women they can judge by looking at where they'd always like to focus anyway -- her breasts. Despite the titters of those around him, Mitsugu Shiga, a medical doctor and author of the book "Marugoto Wakaru Onna no Ecchi," (Everything You Wanted to Know About Women's Sex), claims to be an augurer of the aureole. And though he has his knockers, Shiga is confident his breast readings not only allow him to keep abreast of a woman's character, but rarely see him make any boobies. "Discerning a woman's character through her looks is extremely difficult. But if there's one part of a woman's body that doesn't lie, I'd have to say it was her breasts," the doctor says. Shiga has been conducting clinical tests for close on 40 years, paying particular attention during that time to mammaries. What he has learned has allowed him to come up with a variety of theories about how breast shape determines character. "Boobs come in a variety of shapes and sizes. Analyzing breasts by comparing the ratio between the radius of the base and the size allows breasts to be divided into three broad categories. They can easily be assessed," Shiga says. He notes the three types of breast sizes are large, standard and flat, the latter accounting for about one quarter of all women who are unable to boast of breasts that stand out no more than a few centimeters from the chest and are considerably smaller than their radius. "(Flat-chested women) are quick thinkers who usually focus on only one man. Usually, they could care less about sex," Shiga says, adding that men can persuade women to change. "Usually, these women are noble and sincere types, so once they find their man, they'll normally do whatever he wants them to and that becomes their pleasure. "One matter where these women tend to lack is their low self-esteem when it comes to breast size. They're always worried their men are playing around on them. I recommend doggy style with these women so they can forget about their shortcomings and enjoy themselves." A standard-sized bust is regarded as one that protrudes about 5 to 6 centimeters from the chest and is roughly equal to its radius. "This is the ideal shape for a breast. It's not too large and not too small. It has a feminine bulge about it," Shiga proclaims. "When it comes to character, women with average-sized breasts also have a straight-forwardness pleasant to most men." It is in the sack, according to Shiga, where that straightforwardness comes to the fore. "They're easygoing and enjoy sex for what it is. They're the types who really go off once they've been fired up," the doctor says. "It's typical for them to forget their partner and go off into their own little world, which can be both a blessing and a bane. It might be a good idea to give them a go on top every now and again." Mammoth mammaries are a good sign, the physician claims. "They have the sturdiness of an ox and usually indicate a woman with a positive attitude toward sex and life in general. They'll come up with positions by themselves. It's not easy for guys to play around on these types. Once you marry a woman like this, you'd better be sure you're committed to only her." Considering breasts are the source by which most of us survive the early stages of our lives, it shouldn't really come as a surprise that Shiga claims they offer a hint to determining the type of person they belong to. "Breasts are basically lumps of fat. What makes them bigger is large doses of the female hormone estrogen. Breasts are, therefore, a symbol of a woman's femininity," he says. "That's why looking at a woman's breasts can help in predicting what sort of character she has and the type of sex she enjoys." alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:56:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20uOkq019840 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:56:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041752C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:54:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:54:32 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20sWV08361 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:54:32 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC322D6.35648CEE@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:56:54 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Phone weirdness References: <197.fef8643.2af45cc1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > Did ATT put a hold on your long distance? Not exactly. I think they thought that someone was accessing a psychic hotline or a sex phone thing without my knowing about it, so they opted to shut things down. I still don't see why they didn't just call to ask me. That business of not being able to call after 9pm and then shutting me off at 9:30 sounds mighty strange. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 18:58:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA20wukq019855 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:58:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFEC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:57:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3042995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:57:04 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20v3V08638 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:57:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC32368.8AEDE35B@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:59:20 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <20021101202826.83E357C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> <3DC306AA.88ECDB98@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Please do not associate being a real [whatever state] with how the votes > in that state tend to go. But I know you never would vote Republican, Natalie. Of course you are a real Mississippian. It is the Evil One and his lackeys who are not. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:00:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA210rkq019887 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:00:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFED9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:59:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:59:01 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA20x1V08804 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:59:01 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:59:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC323E3.FF9053AB@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:01:23 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada References: <20021101231107.1F8AD7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > while we waited for our > numbers to be called. What sort of post office is this? It sounds like a bakery or deli. Don't you just stand in a neat queue? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:13:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21DEkq019936 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:13:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004176DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21BMV10070 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:11:22 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:11:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC326C8.5F7701A4@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:13:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Apartment Hunt Ended Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ken has found an apartment! Two weeks to the day since he left on his quest. It was not easy, but perserverance paid off. It is a one bedroom on Panorama City (about a mile from where he lived in Van Nuys before). It has two parking places with electronic gate openers, which is a most exciting element. There is a sunken living room, a fireplace, a/c, a dishwasher, gas heat and stove. Laundry facilities a few doors away (in the same building--not elsewhere). $650.00. Tomorrow Ken will fly to Montreal. He and Suma will get her stuff packed up and on the way, then come here to pack up his, and then they will be off on their great adventure. I have been so stressed these last weeks, because he was getting very discouraged and called me for advice and comfort ten times a day (thus the phone cut-off thing). Knowing that he has a signed lease and the keys in his pocket has lifted a great weight from my chest. And that is good because I seem to have a bad brochitis thing going on and breathing has been a challenge for about a week. Got antibiotics on Wednesday and am using a nebulizer to try to open some airways. (Dr. says problem is not in lungs, but in bronchii.) alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:17:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21HOkq019979 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:17:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00417744@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:15:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:15:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21FWV10358 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:15:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.28]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4XCQ001.WA5 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:13:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC326FB.9D2338B4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 18:14:35 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: oppai uranai References: <3DC321B1.F2530AC7@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Breasts bare a bird's true character > > Despite the titters of those around him, > > And though he has his knockers, Oh, give me strength.... JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:18:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21IWkq019984 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:18:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00417765@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:16:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:16:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21GeV10455 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:16:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:16:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC32802.48505BC2@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:18:58 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: another one bites the dust Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Got this email moments ago: From: Dangerous Visions [mailto:readsf@readsf.com] Dear Friends, Several months ago, Art and I wrote asking for your renewed support. The events of 9/11 and a declining economy were taking a terrible toll on our 21-year old bookstore. Some of you called, a few wrote, and others began frequenting DV more often. The response was less than overwhelming, but we continued to fight the good fight, determined to bring you the best science fiction, fantasy, and horror books as we had for decades. But the wave of support was fleeting and autograph party attendance took a dramatic dip. Even big name authors failed to attract a crowd. Moreover, few of those coming to get books signed bothered to visit the store in between signings. And yet, even as our walk-in clientele decreased, our on-line customer base was growing. As the writing on the wall became more pronounced, our course of action became clearer. Faced with increased operating costs and falling walk-in revenue, Art and I have decided to take Dangerous Visions to the next logical level: a purely virtual storefront. Beginning Monday November 3rd, we'll be packing up the store... Etc... -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:20:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21K4kq019994 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:20:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041778C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:18:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043658 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:18:12 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21ICV10568 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:18:12 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:18:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC32862.D430B72A@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:20:34 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: what the book business has sunk to Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "...There are a bunch of wannabe booksellers in our city now...one came into the used book store at the local library, picked out a big box full of books, paid for them, then took them upstairs to the internet stations, looked them up on Bookfinder, came back downstairs and said he couldn't make enough money on them so he wanted his money back." alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:21:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21LCkq020004 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:21:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFF91@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:19:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:19:20 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:d9MGlIXM99wEIUT3lIFulfI4Ihi9SGfI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA219KV09847 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:09:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057B52FDFF for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C3BFA7C09; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:09:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193829.00b42930@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 1, 2002 7:39:40 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:09:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102010919.C3BFA7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 03:36 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > > >That's why I voted for so many Libertarians. > > From what I've seen, Libertarians are basically defrocked > Republicans. Even so, a "good" Libertarian is better than a bad Democrat. One was even religious. I hated the choices!!! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:25:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21PAkq020094 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:25:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004177FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:23:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:23:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BXHyy7A55tKXO5i1JiSReeGMybAfa90E@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21DIV10217 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:13:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B48F2FDFF for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5A6FD7C0E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:13:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <3DC323E3.FF9053AB@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 1, 2002 8: 1:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:13:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102011317.5A6FD7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > while we waited for our > > numbers to be called. > > What sort of post office is this? It sounds like a bakery or deli. Don't > you just stand in a neat queue? Hell no. This is Texas; no neat queues. You take a number when you come in, and then I generally go sit by the stamps and listen to a book-on-mp3. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:25:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21Pekq020097 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:25:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040BFFBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:23:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:23:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21NmV10900 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:23:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:23:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC329AF.E5A5C89E@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:26:07 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <20021102010919.C3BFA7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > One was even religious. I hated the choices!!! Weren't there any Socialists or Workers Party or something like that? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:27:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21Rhkq020121 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:27:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417846@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:25:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:25:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:R4IgvbBRit2eiKnHiwPWAhMgrJwl4cK7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21FpV10370 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:15:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57792FE0E for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6D1C37C0C; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended In-Reply-To: <3DC326C8.5F7701A4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 1, 2002 8:13:44 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:15:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102011550.6D1C37C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Ken has found an apartment! Two weeks to the day since he left on his > quest. It was not easy, but perserverance paid off. It is a one bedroom > on Panorama City (about a mile from where he lived in Van Nuys before). > It has two parking places with electronic gate openers, which is a most > exciting element. There is a sunken living room, a fireplace, a/c, a > dishwasher, gas heat and stove. Laundry facilities a few doors away (in > the same building--not elsewhere). $650.00. Austin prices! I'm impressed. > And that is > good because I seem to have a bad brochitis thing going on and breathing > has been a challenge for about a week. Got antibiotics on Wednesday and > am using a nebulizer to try to open some airways. (Dr. says problem is > not in lungs, but in bronchii.) I hope you start feeling better soon. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:36:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21aSkq020188 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:36:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417909@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:34:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3043832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:34:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RvaD70HBdUciUUzrVmttZFhBq4ISE9CQ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21OaV10976 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:24:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D812FE39 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 517457C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:24:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style In-Reply-To: <3DC329AF.E5A5C89E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 1, 2002 8:26: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 17:24:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102012435.517457C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > One was even religious. I hated the choices!!! > > Weren't there any Socialists or Workers Party or something like that? Unlike California, no. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:44:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21iOkq020223 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C00AD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:42:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044621 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:42:32 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21gWV12461 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:42:32 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102014226.QFX14374.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:42:26 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:42:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20021101030600.382CA7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oops, BHB, LH! > > Karen Thanks! --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:50:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21oSkq020284 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:50:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417A54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:48:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:48:36 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21maV13333 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:48:36 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102014830.UGM14374.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:48:30 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:48:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021101103531.031841f0@victoria.nb.no> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > HB - two days off. > > Espen Thank you! Completely misinterpreting what you said, I wish I had two days off. :) --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 19:52:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA21qokq020304 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:52:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C0102@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:50:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3044991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:50:58 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA21owV13522 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:50:58 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102015052.CFSR29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:50:52 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:51:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3DC26DB0.175556AD@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > How did we miss AdamLH's bday????? Where is Phyllis? Belated HB, > AdamLH! > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thanks, Natalie. :) And a happy BD from me to Theo and /Jim, too! --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:02:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA222Ckq020454 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:02:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417B81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:00:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:00:20 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA220KV14457 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:00:20 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102020014.CMKZ29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:00:14 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:00:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Oooh, I know where this is ! Yup. :) > Happy Belated, LH. > > Hugs, > -rashmi Thankee! --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:03:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA223ckq020496 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:03:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00417BA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:01:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:01:46 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA221kV14541 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:01:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.114]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102020325.QSZO3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC33202.73A608EF@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:01:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII References: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> <3DC31042.F8B5AE95@maynor.net> <001401c28201$8c78cb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101162259.02f771b0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski quoted: > The construction of more > peaceful, resilient systems can be accomplished through imaginative efforts > (many of them well underway) aimed at living lightly on the earth with > justice and compassion. Moving steadily along this path could also help > eliminate grievances in the world's population that now serve as spawning > grounds for terrorist attacks." The moral here for USAers: VOTE DEMOCRAT! Yes, I realize that parties like the Greens could take issue with my moral. And I understand their point. But at least in the short term, I stand behind my advice above. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:04:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA224skq020525 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:04:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C01B9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:01 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2231V14650 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.114]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102020440.QTTV3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:04:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC33250.A81B3BDC@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:02:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101183400.009e3310@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193526.00a000b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >Why is this ? And have I not said his name before? > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > It's not all that significant. It's just that you never said his name > before even though we have seen a picture of the two of you camping. It wasn't one showing us naked, was it? I also have a picture of him lying on the floor naked with a fan blowing over him. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:05:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA225Ykq020530 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:05:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C01BF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:42 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA223gV14692 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.114]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102020522.QUHK3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:05:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC33279.CD0ADD64@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:03:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <3DC30FAD.CE4FE2B8@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193829.00b42930@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Even so, a "good" Libertarian is better than a bad Democrat. I'll agree with that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:07:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA227Ekq020558 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:07:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00417BE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:05:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045661 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:05:22 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA225LV15004 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:05:21 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA225Lb15259 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:05:21 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gA223iv14230 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:45 -0500 Message-ID: <00a201c28214$13b793b0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:03:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I hope you are a happy cat there, Adam... 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Hartfield" To: Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:51 PM Subject: Re: Adam > > How did we miss AdamLH's bday????? Where is Phyllis? Belated HB, > > AdamLH! > > -- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Thanks, Natalie. :) > > And a happy BD from me to Theo and /Jim, too! > > --Adam > adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:09:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA229fkq020572 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:09:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00417C0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:07:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:07:49 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA227mV15193 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:07:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.114]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102020928.QXLJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:09:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3336F.849E87A4@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:07:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Voting, Texas Style References: <20021101202826.83E357C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC2EAE1.7DCFA098@valstar.net> <3DC306AA.88ECDB98@maynor.net> <3DC32368.8AEDE35B@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > But I know you never would vote Republican, Natalie. But I have. I've voted for Thad Cochran a couple of times in my life. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:09:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA229gkq020575 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:09:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C01E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:07:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3045730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:07:50 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA227nV15197 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:07:50 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102020744.BIHN14374.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:07:44 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Clarion-Ledger Internet Postcard from Natalie Maynor Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:07:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > It's not been a great apple year. I can't believe I went half my > life having > never eaten a Macoun apple, though. They are the best. > > Marie Yes, Macouns are the best. They're even better with some sharp Cheddar. Yum! I can't stand Macintoshes, even fresh off the tree. Yuck. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:17:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22H1kq020639 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:17:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00417CA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:15:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22EMV15849 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.35]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102021602.HCAV11981.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:16:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC334F6.962F3B0B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:14:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: <3DC326C8.5F7701A4@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Ken has found an apartment! Two weeks to the day since he left on his > quest. It was not easy, but perserverance paid off. It is a one bedroom > on Panorama City (about a mile from where he lived in Van Nuys before). > It has two parking places with electronic gate openers, which is a most > exciting element. There is a sunken living room, a fireplace, a/c, a > dishwasher, gas heat and stove. Laundry facilities a few doors away (in > the same building--not elsewhere). $650.00. My gosh. I don't know where Panorama City is, but rent there is obviously lower than it is in Starkville, Mississippi. > Tomorrow Ken will fly to Montreal. He and Suma will get her stuff packed > up and on the way, then come here to pack up his, and then they will be > off on their great adventure. I had thought she was already with him. I'm glad he's coming back east, though, so that you and Spike can see him. > good because I seem to have a bad brochitis thing going on and breathing > has been a challenge for about a week. Got antibiotics on Wednesday and > am using a nebulizer to try to open some airways. (Dr. says problem is > not in lungs, but in bronchii.) I'm glad you've gotten a doctor's opinion on it. And I hope that improvement scurries onward! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:17:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22H1kq020640 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:17:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417CA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:15:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:15:08 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22F4V15924 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:15:05 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102021459.CXHW29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:14:59 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:15:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3DC29A61.7577E2C0@valstar.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Happy birthday, Adam. Bless your heart. > > love and XXX > alyce Thanks, Alyce. I haven't forgotten my promise to come visit. I will, I swear...*sigh* the question is when... --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:18:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22Ilkq020652 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:18:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00417CD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:16:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:16:55 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22GtV16000 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:16:55 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102021649.CYOY29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:16:49 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:17:00 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Happy birthday, Adam. Bless your heart. > > Indeed! > > Bethany Thanks, Bethany. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:18:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22Iwkq020656 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:18:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417CD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:17:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:17:06 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22H5V16054 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:17:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.35]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102021845.HDNI11981.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:18:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3359C.E03E409F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:17:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: <20021102011550.6D1C37C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Austin prices! I'm impressed. You could find an apartment in Austin with those amenities at that price? I guess it would depend on where in Austin, of course. That's true even in little Starkville, and I'm sure it's even more true in a larger city (except maybe that in a larger city people's desirable places are more spread out). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:22:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22MYkq020673 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:22:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C0263@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:20:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:20:42 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22KFV16284 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:20:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.35]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102022155.HFMT11981.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:21:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3365A.83BDD0A0@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:20:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another one bites the dust References: <3DC32802.48505BC2@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap quoted: > Several months ago, Art and I wrote asking for your renewed support. > The events of 9/11 and a declining economy were taking a terrible > toll on our 21-year old bookstore. But those reasons aren't the ones we were discussing earlier. The sucky economy is definitely taking its toll on all kinds of businesses. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:29:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22Tbkq020702 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:29:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417DD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:27:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046507 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:27:45 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22RjV16788 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:27:45 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102022739.BWPB14374.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:27:39 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:27:50 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Is it still Adam's birthday? I haven't been paying attention. > > Happy Birthday Adam in any case. Sure, it's still my birthday. I can take a while to turn 31. :D Thanks! Ann: New music for you to download/find at the library: Super Furry Animals, a Welsh pop band. Did I send you a copy of Marly Hornik's _Say You Do_ ? --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:30:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22UPkq020728 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:30:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C02DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:28:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:28:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LMKntBrKpT+PY4F15FqPJkw2GmLYkqvC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22IWV16149 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:18:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3882FE0E for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:18:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0C7EA7C0D; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:18:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended In-Reply-To: <3DC3359C.E03E409F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 1, 2002 8:17: 0 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:18:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102021832.0C7EA7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Austin prices! I'm impressed. > > You could find an apartment in Austin with those amenities at that > price? Except for the garage, I think so. The rental market is very depressed. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:40:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22etkq020767 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:40:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00417EFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:39:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3046568 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:39:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22T2V16934 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:29:02 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA22T1VO008583 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:29:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:29:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended In-Reply-To: <3DC326C8.5F7701A4@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >Ken has found an apartment! Two weeks to the day since he left on his .... >the same building--not elsewhere). $650.00. Super! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:41:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22fAkq020770 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:41:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00417F04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:39:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:39:18 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22dHV17741 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:39:17 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:39:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC33B57.9EB03C75@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 21:41:27 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: <3DC326C8.5F7701A4@valstar.net> <3DC334F6.962F3B0B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > My gosh. I don't know where Panorama City is, It's the northern end ofVan Nuys, not far from Hollywood. > but rent there is > obviously lower than it is in Starkville, Mississippi. Well, he could not afford to live in Starkville. Good that they don't make movies there. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:44:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22iYkq020791 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:44:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00417F60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:42:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:42:42 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22gfV18009 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:42:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust29.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.31]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:42:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC33C2E.90ADC2E3@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 21:45:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: <20021102021832.0C7EA7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Except for the garage, I think so. The rental market is very > depressed. The rental market is hot, hot, hot around LA. There were almost no apts. to look at. They either were crack house slum places or $1000 anad up. He says that in 1998 when he left, his new apartment would have been renting for $500. Their original budget was $599 and he was stunned and reeling when he arrived. He says that in the LA Times, they don't even list things under $1000 for they are so rare. People learn by word of mouth or from window signs. No need to pay for an ad. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:50:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22o8kq020839 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:50:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00417FEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:48:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:48:16 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22mFV18395 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:48:15 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102024810.DVLY29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:48:10 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:48:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <147.1bee39a.2af455b4@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I didn't know you had a birthday yesterday, Adam. It was Wednesday, but close enough. :D > HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you! This sounds horrible, but I saw a Hoover Windtunnel for sale tonight at Costco and thought of you. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:53:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22r1kq020854 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:53:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C0432@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:51:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047577 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:51:09 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22p8V18635 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:51:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.109]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102025248.EEHR14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:52:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC33D97.34512832@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:51:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: <3DC326C8.5F7701A4@valstar.net> <3DC334F6.962F3B0B@maynor.net> <3DC33B57.9EB03C75@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > but rent there is > > obviously lower than it is in Starkville, Mississippi. > > Well, he could not afford to live in Starkville. Good that they don't > make movies there. He could rent a place in Starkville for that price -- just not one as nice as the place you described. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:57:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22vEkq020870 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:57:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00418096@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:55:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:55:21 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22tLV18917 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:55:21 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102025515.CQNC14374.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:55:15 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: My day off Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:55:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3DC3118C.22640519@maynor.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Why is this ? And have I not said his name before? Yes, > his name was Boyd. You haven't said his name before that I recall. Maybe you did when I was mostly offline in the mid-90's. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 20:59:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA22xekq020885 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:59:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004180D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:57:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:57:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+gZWkbASGx9Z59KJSuR+Cf4fT0qpUthm@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22lmV18350 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:47:48 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8E92FDC0 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:47:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 54F5A7C0C; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:47:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended In-Reply-To: <3DC33C2E.90ADC2E3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 1, 2002 9:45: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:47:47 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102024747.54F5A7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Except for the garage, I think so. The rental market is very > > depressed. > > The rental market is hot, hot, hot around LA. Because no one can afford to buy! > There were almost no apts. > to look at. They either were crack house slum places or $1000 anad up. > He says that in 1998 when he left, his new apartment would have been > renting for $500. Their original budget was $599 and he was stunned and > reeling when he arrived. He says that in the LA Times, they don't even > list things under $1000 for they are so rare. People learn by word of > mouth or from window signs. No need to pay for an ad. Shades of the BA. A lot of places here are giving a free month's rent with a lease renewal. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:04:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA234pkq020932 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041813E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:02:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:02:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA232wV19342 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:02:58 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-214.panax.com [63.163.41.214]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA232vt23065 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:02:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021101220218.009fa980@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:02:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC33250.A81B3BDC@maynor.net> References: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101183400.009e3310@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193526.00a000b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > It's not all that significant. It's just that you never said his name > > before even though we have seen a picture of the two of you camping. > >It wasn't one showing us naked, was it? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, it was. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:08:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA238Zkq020956 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:08:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00418197@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:06:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:06:42 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA236gV19597 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:06:42 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021102030637.EIPZ29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 03:06:37 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:06:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <00a201c28214$13b793b0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I hope you are a happy cat there, Adam... 'Alan I'll be much happier when I'm done with my current crushing project at work...I will probably be putting in so much overtime over these next two weeks that I am thinking of seting nomail. *sigh* Thanks for the bday wishes, Alan. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:10:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA23Ankq020968 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:10:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004181CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:08:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:08:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jyNe4NfevnoFaXR9Ut0c5tgDjxlq0jRF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA22wvV19108 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:58:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AEA2FDD4 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 63F587CBE; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:57:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: from Adam Hartfield at "Nov 1, 2002 9:55:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:57:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102025758.63F587CBE@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield said: > > Why is this ? And have I not said his name before? Yes, > > his name was Boyd. > > You haven't said his name before that I recall. Maybe you did when I was > mostly offline in the mid-90's. I don't remember hearing it before either. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:14:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA23EKkq021007 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:14:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00418212@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:12:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3047860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:12:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HCofO1Kk1e6Q8g49j9gpflpW82L6GiCU@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA232RV19336 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:02:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504122FD67 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AFA807C24; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Hillary To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:02:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102030226.AFA807C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Not her, her namesake. I had to look him up because he's in that car commercial and he looks so YOUNG. But he was born in 1919, so he's oooooold. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:42:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA23g2kq021201 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:42:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041848E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:40:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:40:09 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23e9V22810 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:40:09 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23e7G30108 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:40:07 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA23e7RG011594; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:40:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101194142.00ab0510@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:42:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: References: <3DC3118C.22640519@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:55 PM 11/1/2002 -0500, Adam Hartfield wrote: > > Why is this ? And have I not said his name before? Yes, > > his name was Boyd. > >You haven't said his name before that I recall. Maybe you did when I was >mostly offline in the mid-90's. She should have said *oy*. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:43:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA23hEkq021206 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:43:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C06DA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:41:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:41:21 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23fLV22944 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:41:21 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23fJG30911 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:41:19 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA23fJRG030143; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:41:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101194251.00a11ca0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:43:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended In-Reply-To: <20021102024747.54F5A7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC33C2E.90ADC2E3@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:47 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >alyce cresap said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Except for the garage, I think so. The rental market is very > > > depressed. > > > > The rental market is hot, hot, hot around LA. > >Because no one can afford to buy! > > > There were almost no apts. > > to look at. They either were crack house slum places or $1000 anad up. > > He says that in 1998 when he left, his new apartment would have been > > renting for $500. Their original budget was $599 and he was stunned and > > reeling when he arrived. He says that in the LA Times, they don't even > > list things under $1000 for they are so rare. People learn by word of > > mouth or from window signs. No need to pay for an ad. > >Shades of the BA. A lot of places here are giving a free month's rent >with a lease renewal. It's changing here, too. You can even find a place to rent in San Francisco. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:46:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA23khkq021245 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:46:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C06E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:44:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:44:50 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:qUBgLeQ1wSc+eyO6NjIqLPnMSyo6XW9J@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23ioV23134 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:44:50 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C6A2FE4A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 9E7812B58E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8266A2B57A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: Words-L Subject: going nomail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Palm Springs-ward. "The Internet Librarian". Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:52:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA23qpkq021299 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:52:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00418573@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:50:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3049935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:50:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:f0u25OAArqgw0KxO5LCnqTGvNXAC63uN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23owV23590 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:50:58 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80932FE51 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AEDEC2B58E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915D32B57A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:50:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:50:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Adam Hartfield wrote: > Ann: New music for you to download/find at the library: Super Furry Animals, > a Welsh pop band. Is there anything Celtic about them? I hate Celtic. Did I send you a copy of Marly Hornik's _Say You Do_ ? Yes, thanks sincerely. She is clever, but I find I also have anti-folk prejudices even when it's urban sophisticated folk. Sorry to be so negative but I have surprised myself at how much perfectly good music that many many people like pisses me off. I am so much more open with visual arts, I don't really understand this prickliness I find in myself. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 21:55:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA23tnkq021329 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 21:55:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004185A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:53:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:53:57 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23ruV23758 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:53:56 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA23rsG09761 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:53:54 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA23rtRG004238; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:53:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101195448.00aaa260@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:56:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: going nomail In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:44 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, Ann Borkin wrote: >Palm Springs-ward. "The Internet Librarian". Puerto Vallarta here. See you in a week. Are you packing your whore t-shirt? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 22:20:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA24K9kq021477 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:20:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041879A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:18:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:18:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8zqj/4f33iERfAdd525Nb4n2PjTuacYE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA248FV24921 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:08:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648EF2FE53 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1DAFC7C0E; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:08:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021101194142.00ab0510@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 1, 2002 7:42:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:08:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102040815.1DAFC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > She should have said *oy*. Or *yd*. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 22:21:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA24LBkq021488 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:21:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004187AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:19:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3050655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:19:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1Vsf3PWFCAJLAftT89U04/O31roo0dko@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA249IV24993 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:09:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B51F2FE4F for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 380FB7C0F; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:09:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Adam In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Nov 1, 2002 7:50:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:09:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102040916.380FB7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > Sorry to be so negative but I have surprised myself at how much perfectly > good music that many many people like pisses me off. I am so much more > open with visual arts, I don't really understand this prickliness I find > in myself. Me, neither. This is so unlike you! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 22:41:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA24flkq021632 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:41:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00418B5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:39:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3055318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:39:54 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA24dsV28024 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:39:54 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA24drG09257 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:39:53 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA24dqRG009642 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:39:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021101204126.00a2cd50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 20:41:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <20021102040815.1DAFC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <4.2.2.20021101194142.00ab0510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:08 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Betty said: > > She should have said *oy*. > >Or *yd*. Wouldn't that be **yd? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 23:25:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA25P6kq021926 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:25:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00418FDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 0:23:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:22:38 -0500 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA25McV32267 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:22:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (213-78-108-194.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.108.194]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AMO70900; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:22:02 GMT Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:22:50 +0000 Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Message-Id: <2142786C-EE23-11D6-8ADF-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 02:06 , Red wrote: > KK>That looks good, Red. Why are you red? > > I'm a footie person,no prizes for guessing the team I support.. > Charlton, Southampton, Middlesborough, Sunderland perhaps Arsenal On the other hand you do mean RED don't you. Must be Liverpool where isn't any white in their kit is there ? Then you could support Maccabi Haifa :) > Red > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 23:25:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA25P6kq021927 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:25:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C141A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 0:23:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:23:11 -0500 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA25N2V32298 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:23:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (213-78-108-194.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.108.194]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AMK36067; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:20:58 GMT Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:23:14 +0000 Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021030114903.00a04190@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-Id: <2F7AB782-EE23-11D6-8ADF-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 04:49 , bonniev wrote: >> Do you know many Indians rooting >> for Big Red Nebraska football team? >> (If they're here, yes, but there, maybe not) >> Do we know where this guy is? >> No guess is too goofy. >> - D. M. > > Australia ? Wrong footy. > > > --bonniev > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 23:30:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA25UOkq021971 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:30:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041903D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 0:28:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:28:30 -0500 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA25SUV32695 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:28:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (213-78-108-194.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.108.194]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AMO70957; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:27:54 GMT Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:28:42 +0000 Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <002801c280b6$002abfc0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 08:15 , Red wrote: > MA>I RULE! > > MA>So where are you? Are you in India? Or the UK? Or where? I read > recently > that Man U.'s largest fan base is in Japan... > > MA>I've never heard "footie" before, BTW. > > I'm surprised to hear you haven't heard the word footie,I'm in India,you > follow football? That's closer than most of their supporters. > > Red > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 1 23:36:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA25aQkq022001 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 23:36:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C1497@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 0:34:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3059536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:34:32 -0500 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA25YWV00661 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:34:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (213-78-108-194.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.108.194]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AMK36183; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:32:28 GMT Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:34:44 +0000 Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3DC1B99D.D9432640@maynor.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 11:15 , Natalie Maynor wrote: > Dan Lester wrote: > >> And why is it any different from a significant number of Americans >> caring about World Cup, UK Rugby, etc, etc. I know that you don't > > I don't know how many foreigners follow rugby, but I see a big > difference between international interest in a sport played in only a > couple of countries and in a sport played throughout the world and > culminating in the world's biggest sports event every summer. > and that sport is ? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 00:52:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA26qYkq022668 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 00:52:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C1715@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 1:50:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3061547 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:50:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:R5ZYcmCH9i5pSXEa2WWoTkeoTOfTDnFr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA26odV05356 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:50:39 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E9A2FDD3 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889F12B57A for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:50:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021101204126.00a2cd50@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <20021102040815.1DAFC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <4.2.2.20021101194142.00ab0510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is this still the lard thread? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths X-Rock-Band-Name: The Apical Meristems Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:50:31 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: My day off Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 8:41 PM -0800 11/1/02, Betty wrote: >At 08:08 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: >>Betty said: >> > She should have said *oy*. >> >>Or *yd*. > > > >Wouldn't that be **yd? Jeez, what kind of a unix whore are you, anyway? * stands for zero or more characters. ** is redundant. . represents a single character, which makes it particularly appropriate as your emblem. ..yd is probably what you were thinking of. (This could also have been represented (as every American who's been to Europe knows) as .{2}yd .) ^*oo.+t$ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 01:56:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA27uukq023022 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:56:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00419B6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 2:55:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3063975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:55:01 -0500 Received: from bolna.monet.no (bolna.monet.no [195.139.82.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA27t0V10328 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:55:00 -0500 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (isdn-11.nb.no [195.139.108.11]) by bolna.monet.no (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA27nt3u019938 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:49:56 +0100 X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021102085232.031165b8@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:53:51 +0100 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "Espen S. Ore" Subject: Re: 3.9 to Canada In-Reply-To: <3DC29265.1882.BC80352@localhost> References: <3DC2D87F.A5665F93@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:40 01.11.2002 -0500 skrev Paul R. Barfoot: >It's snowing in Syracuse. Happy November. Our car's battery was flat yesterday morning and I still haven't bought a charger. Oh well, I took care this morning to fill all the cells with water and my brother will be coming over with his car later today and I hope that will be that. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 03:38:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA29cEkq023516 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 03:38:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C1B12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 4:36:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3064816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 04:36:19 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA29QIV14690 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 04:26:18 -0500 Received: from web14503.mail.yahoo.com (web14503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.66]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA29QIm05217 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 04:26:18 -0500 Received: from [64.86.155.144] by web14503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 01:26:17 PST Message-ID: <20021102092617.64332.qmail@web14503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 01:26:17 -0800 (PST) From: SMITH MADU Subject: URGENT REPLY To: gtoal@GTOAL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ATTN:MANAGING DIRECTOR /CEO. DEAR SIR/MADAM First I must solicit your confidence in this transaction, this is by virtue of its nature as being utterly confidential and top secret. Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one apprehensive and worried,this transaction by is very nature is in deed one of a rather complex nature and it has as its bane the issue of TRUST but I am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day. There is no doubt that trust conceptually is a conundrum which leads its self to deferring interpretation, it is not to the extent of empirical of scientific proof We have decided to contact you due to the urgency of this transaction, as we have been reliably informed of your discreetness and ability in transaction of this nature. Let me start by introducing myself properly to you. I am DR.MADU one of the directors with the ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK, Lagos. I came to know you in my Private Search for a Reliable and Reputable Person to handle this Confidential Transaction, which involves the transfer of Huge sum of Money to a Foreign Account requiring Maximum Confidence. THE PROPOSITION: A Foreigner an Australia, Late Engr. Steve Moore (Snr.) an Oil Merchant with the Federal Government of Nigeria, until his death months ago in Kenya Air Bus (A310-300) Flight KQ431, Banked with us at ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK, Lagos and had a closing balance as at the end of September, 2000 worth US$45,500,000.00 (fourty five Million five hundred thousand United State Dollars), the bank now expects a next of kin as beneficiary. Valuable efforts are being made by the ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK to get in touch with any of the Moore's family or relatives but to no success. It is because of the perceived possibility of not being able to locate any of Late Engr. Steve Moore (Snr.)' s next kin (He had no wife or children that is known to us). The Management under the influence of our Chairman and Members of the Board of Directors, has made arrangement for the funds to be declared 'Unclaimed' and subsequently be donated to the trust fund for arms and ammunition to further enhance the course of War in Africa and the World in General. In order to avert this negative development some of my trusted colleagues and I now seek your permission to have you stand as next of kin to Late Engr. Steve Moore (Snr.) so that the fund US$45.5 Million will be released and paid into your account as the beneficiary's next of kin. All documents and proves to enable you get his fund will be carefully worked out. We have secure from the probate an order of madamus to locate any of deceased beneficiaries, and more so we are assuring you that this business is 100% Risk Free involvement. Your share stays while the rest be for myself and my colleagues for investment purpose. According to agreement within both parties. As soon as we receive an acknowledgement of receipt of this message in acceptance of our mutual business proposal, the necessary modalities and disbursement ratio to suite both parties are thus: 30% for you a/c owner,10% for the expeneses, 60% for i and my colleagues. While replying furnish me with your private fax and phone numbers for easy communication .Whilst this anormalities may well exacerbate your doubt and apprehensive about the transaction in view of the fact that you area person not physically known to us. I must have to advice you that a healthy degree of caution be exercised before conclusions are reached by your goodself. If this proposal is acceptable by you, do not make undue advantage of the trust we have bestowed in you. Kindly mail me back with this e-mail personalcontact1@myself.com Best regards, Dr. Smith Madu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 06:46:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2Ck0kq024490 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:46:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041B174@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 7:44:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3067978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:44:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:n1ThhvcssFqi/KOkySWRMM48iRgl4ss9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2CY3V23911 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:34:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5622A2FE90 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 04:34:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 191777C0C; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 04:34:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021101204126.00a2cd50@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 1, 2002 8:41:58 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 04:34:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102123402.191777C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 08:08 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Betty said: > > > She should have said *oy*. > > > >Or *yd*. > > > > Wouldn't that be **yd? No. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:03:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2D3ukq024588 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:03:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C2059@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:01:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:01:59 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2D1xV25392 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:01:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.156]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102130338.IVKN24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:03:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3CCC1.C1B58B8F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:01:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <20021101225541.12D727C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101183400.009e3310@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101193526.00a000b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101220218.009fa980@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >It wasn't one showing us naked, was it? > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Yes, it was. I have a vague memory of that now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:04:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2D4Qkq024592 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:04:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041B30A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:02:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:02:29 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2D2TV25448 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:02:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.156]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102130409.IVSR24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:04:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3CCE0.1826B9A6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:02:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <20021102040815.1DAFC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Betty said: > > She should have said *oy*. > > Or *yd*. Not. The d is the last letter. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:05:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2D56kq024596 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:05:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041B316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:03:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:03:09 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2D39V25485 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:03:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.156]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102130449.IVZH24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:04:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3CD08.D8B1F6FB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:03:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <4.2.2.20021101194142.00ab0510@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021101204126.00a2cd50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Wouldn't that be **yd? No. One * covers as many characters as it needs to. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:05:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2D5gkq024600 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:05:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C2068@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:03:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:03:45 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2D3jV25528 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:03:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.156]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102130525.IWGX24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:05:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3CD2C.DF441FD7@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:03:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Roy Jaques wrote: > and that sport is ? Swimming, of course. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:15:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2DFckq024665 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:15:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C209D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:13:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:13:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:WUZuzS4VUKwOaHxZHkZFnXmEikGRQvGs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2D3fV25513 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:03:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0202FDF4 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 64D637C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:03:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC3CCE0.1826B9A6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 7: 2:24 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:03:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102130340.64D637C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Betty said: > > > She should have said *oy*. > > > > Or *yd*. > > Not. The d is the last letter. But the asterisk doesn't care. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:16:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2DG0kq024668 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:16:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C20A2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:14:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:14:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Hg4On4aGingVo74vNFRdAIWTM4QcZj0y@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2D43V25571 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:04:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7703A2FDF4 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 325CD7C0F; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:04:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC3CD08.D8B1F6FB@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 7: 3: 4 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:04:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102130402.325CD7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Betty wrote: > > > Wouldn't that be **yd? > > No. One * covers as many characters as it needs to. Exactly. Including none. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:29:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2DTvkq024727 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:29:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041B547@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:28:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:27:59 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2DRxV26922 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:27:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.156]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102132939.JWUY282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3D2DA.3BBD2B13@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:27:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Shoes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do any of you know of some websites that might have good discounts on Haflingers? I need some new ones and have decided on the Heidelberg or something close to it. Haven't found them for less than $100 but would like to. Here's what they look like: http://www.shoestoboot.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=342&Category=65 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:30:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2DUckq024751 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:30:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041B559@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:28:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068828 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:28:41 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2DSfV26965 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:28:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.156]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102133020.JXDS282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:30:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3D303.AEEC44BC@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:28:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <20021102130340.64D637C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > Or *yd*. > > > > Not. The d is the last letter. > > But the asterisk doesn't care. The asterisk doesn't care, but it is misleading to human eyes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:32:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2DWtkq024759 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:32:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041B581@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:30:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:30:58 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2DUwV27119 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:30:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.156]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102133237.JYKQ282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:32:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3D38C.F03D5FC8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 07:30:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off References: <20021102130402.325CD7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > No. One * covers as many characters as it needs to. > > Exactly. Including none. Correct. But why would one bother to put one in when one wasn't needed? The only case I can think of to use an asterisk when one isn't needed would be if you didn't know whether there was another character or when you were dealing with a block of things like files named blap, blap1, blap2, etc. and wanted the command to include the simple blap along with all the longer blap names. Neither of those situations applies to Boyd. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:44:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2Dirkq024798 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:44:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C213C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:42:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:42:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RCu4aLpDJ2fkJHo/4Qfi7eidtUhRckgm@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2DWtV27238 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:32:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B37D2FDFD for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 25EC17C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:32:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC3D303.AEEC44BC@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 7:28:35 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:32:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102133255.25EC17C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > Or *yd*. > > > > > > Not. The d is the last letter. > > > > But the asterisk doesn't care. > > The asterisk doesn't care, but it is misleading to human eyes. Only those that don't understand the convention. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 07:45:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2DjRkq024824 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 07:45:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C2149@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 8:43:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3068922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:43:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:q/xEgC06QJX9oEufx1HMeIpwkBB/FZBs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2DXSV27369 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:33:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4962B2FDD5 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 21CE77C0E; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:33:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC3D38C.F03D5FC8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 7:30:52 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:33:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102133328.21CE77C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > No. One * covers as many characters as it needs to. > > > > Exactly. Including none. > > Correct. But why would one bother to put one in when one wasn't > needed? For symmetry. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 08:02:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2E2Fkq024909 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:02:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C2183@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 9:00:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3069186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:00:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Pmi4A4/WLMZ0zP3/o7LD7+DmR1ez1pcs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2DoDV28455 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:50:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 685502FE28 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2D7667C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:50:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: The perils of Windows installation To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 05:50:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102135013.2D7667C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think the date on this was wrong--it should be April 1. Or something. This is a very strange article ("robotically"?!), and I can't see the purpose beyond scare-mongering. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54842-2002Nov1.html Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 08:04:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2E4oY7000937 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C21AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 9:04:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3069395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:04:49 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2E4mV29240 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:04:49 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2E4lG14010 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:04:47 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA2E4lRG020966; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:04:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021102060642.00a38540@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 06:06:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: <3DC3D38C.F03D5FC8@maynor.net> References: <20021102130402.325CD7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:30 AM 11/2/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > > > > No. One * covers as many characters as it needs to. > > > > Exactly. Including none. > >Correct. But why would one bother to put one in when one wasn't >needed? The only case I can think of to use an asterisk when one isn't >needed would be if you didn't know whether there was another character >or when you were dealing with a block of things like files named blap, >blap1, blap2, etc. and wanted the command to include the simple blap >along with all the longer blap names. Neither of those situations >applies to Boyd. Unless you thought. . . never mind. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 08:20:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2EKiY7001038 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:20:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C21F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 9:20:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3069686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:20:43 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2EKhV30320 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:20:43 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2EKgt15496 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:20:42 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102091924.00b422f0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 09:20:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <20021102135013.2D7667C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:50 AM 11/2/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >I think the date on this was wrong--it should be April 1. > >Or something. This is a very strange article ("robotically"?!), and I >can't see the purpose beyond scare-mongering. > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54842-2002Nov1.html Yeah. It cold have been done with two sentences. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 08:34:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2EYwY7001105 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:34:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041B850@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 9:02:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3069338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:02:23 -0500 Received: from wss100.berkeley.edu (wss100.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2E2NV29114 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:02:23 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by wss100.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2E2MG12149 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:02:22 -0800 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-212-49.client.attbi.com [12.232.212.49]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA2E2MRG012405 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:02:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021102060255.00a24c00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 06:04:32 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: My day off In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20021101204126.00a2cd50@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20021102040815.1DAFC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <4.2.2.20021101194142.00ab0510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:50 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: >At 8:41 PM -0800 11/1/02, Betty wrote: > >At 08:08 PM 11/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >>Betty said: > >> > She should have said *oy*. > >> > >>Or *yd*. > > > > > > > >Wouldn't that be **yd? > >Jeez, what kind of a unix whore are you, anyway? > >* stands for zero or more characters. ** is redundant. Oh. I thought it was the symbol for ass hole. >. represents a single character, which makes it particularly appropriate as >your emblem. ..yd is probably what you were thinking of. (This could also >have been represented (as every American who's been to Europe knows) as >.{2}yd .) > >^*oo.+t$ Wo0t! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 08:56:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2EutY7001262 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:56:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041BD36@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 9:56:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:56:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:d5CevwmvKa/dE2pwt57MA5RSbccHeVNs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2EusV32446 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:56:54 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C9F2FDFD for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5282B57A for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:56:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Is this still the lard thread? X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths X-Rock-Band-Name: The Apical Meristems Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:56:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Signs Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Have any of you ever had Moose Munch from Harry & David? I went to an H&D >outlet yesterday and bought a bag. I think it's the best thing I've ever >eaten in the sweet category. > >Marie I know this is a very dead bird, but I have to say it: every time I see "Moose Munch" I wonder if it's a product similar to Moose Turd Pie. Ken Miller Organoleptics Department California Institute of Haughty Cuisine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 08:58:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2EwRY7001271 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:58:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041BD58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 9:58:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:58:26 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ZDqO/4bV1n2yX7e6BM2g8z4Qzd76dorZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2EmQV31969 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:48:26 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8C82FDF0 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3E4CB7C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:48:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102091924.00b422f0@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 2, 2002 9:20: 4 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 06:48:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102144825.3E4CB7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 05:50 AM 11/2/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > >I think the date on this was wrong--it should be April 1. > > > >Or something. This is a very strange article ("robotically"?!), and I > >can't see the purpose beyond scare-mongering. > > > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54842-2002Nov1.html > > Yeah. It cold have been done with two sentences. That didn't include 'robotically'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 09:18:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2FIBY7001404 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:18:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041BF47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:18:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070837 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:18:10 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2FIAV01505 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:18:10 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2FI7t23735 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:18:07 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102101716.00b4bd18@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 10:18:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <20021102144825.3E4CB7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102091924.00b422f0@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:48 AM 11/2/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > > > > Yeah. It could have been done with two sentences. > >That didn't include 'robotically'. true. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 09:19:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2FJWY7001410 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:19:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C240C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:19:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3070869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:19:31 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2FJUV01605 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:19:30 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.13]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4Y00B40FW4M9@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 09:19:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 09:20:34 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: My day off To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC3ED42.6080002@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DC2B685.4000502@swbell.net> <3DC3021B.16A91A73@maynor.net> <3DC3056B.5020904@swbell.net> <3DC30B1C.2FB2A86C@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >>It is essentially a comp day >>for the 10 extra evening hours I worked last week for parent >>teacher conferences. FWIW, I don't remember the teachers >>getting a day off after conferences in Yankeeland. Ana went >>to school this morning as her conferences are next week. >> > > So is school closed totally -- as in the students get a holiday because > the teachers have worked extra hours? I don't mean to suggest that > that's a bad thing. I realize that schools usually go x number of days > per year and that the x's are pretty close everywhere. It's just that > I've never heard of such a thing before. Yes, school is closed totally. The day off is built into the schedule. I'd never heard of it before, either. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 09:27:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2FRYY7001439 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:27:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041C034@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:27:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:27:33 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2FRXV02246 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:27:33 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA2FRWl07512 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:27:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001001c28284$9fccfaa0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC2D87F.A5665F93@valstar.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20021102085232.031165b8@victoria.nb.no> Subject: Re: Re: 3.9 to Canada Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:29:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > 14:40 01.11.2002 -0500 skrev Paul R. Barfoot: > >It's snowing in Syracuse. Happy November. > > Our car's battery was flat yesterday morning and I still haven't bought a charger. Oh well, I took care this morning to fill all the cells with water and my brother will be coming over with his car later today and I hope that will be that. > > Espen My car went dead twice yesterday. The second time it wouldn't recharge. Oh-oh. I think it means a new battery. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 09:42:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2Fg0Y7001511 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:42:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041C194@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:41:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:41:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2FfxV03182 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:41:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-190.panax.com [63.163.41.190]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2Ffvt27191 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:41:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102104010.009f9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 10:41:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Moose Munch In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Have any of you ever had Moose Munch from Harry & David? I went to an H&D > >outlet yesterday and bought a bag. I think it's the best thing I've ever > >eaten in the sweet category. --Marie > >I know this is a very dead bird, but I have to say it: every time I see >"Moose Munch" I wonder if it's a product similar to Moose Turd Pie. >Ken Miller >Organoleptics Department >California Institute of Haughty Cuisine Not that much of a dead bird because I still do not have my Moose Munch. It sits in Marie's cupboard getting stale, no doubt. What is moose turd pie? We have moose droppings ice cream around here. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:07:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2G7CY7001634 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:07:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041C42D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:07:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3072197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:07:10 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2G7AV05039 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:07:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust60.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.62]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:07:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3F8AB.B5A3BF39@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 11:09:15 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > I know this is a very dead bird, but I have to say it: every time I see > "Moose Munch" I wonder if it's a product similar to Moose Turd Pie. And this brings me to an apology to Rashmi. I have been mostly in bed for a week now, and have not forgotten. WHen I can breathe, it will come. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:27:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2GRpY7001731 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:27:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041C632@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:27:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3072647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:27:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sQfb0rSfKveXV37Q4HD0L7K37LdWOcZ2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2GRnV06339 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:27:49 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172E12FE9A for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ADF2B57A for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:27:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102104010.009f9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: The turtles that hold up my world are slipping X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:27:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Moose Munch Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Not that much of a dead bird because I still do not have my Moose >Munch. It sits in Marie's cupboard getting stale, no doubt. whine> > >What is moose turd pie? We have moose droppings ice cream around here. > > > --bonniev "Moose Turd Pie" is a classic Utah Phillips story. If you've got your mp3 ears on, you can hear it at: http://www.utahphillips.org/stuff/mooseturdpie.mp3 Ken Miller Organoleptics Department California Institute of Haughty Cuisine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:31:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2GVuY7001769 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:31:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041C698@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:31:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3072797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:31:54 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2GVsV06722 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:31:54 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-195.panax.com [63.163.41.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2GVqt02742 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:31:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102113103.00a05a40@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 11:31:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs In-Reply-To: <3DC3F8AB.B5A3BF39@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >And this brings me to an apology to Rashmi. I have been mostly in bed >for a week now, and have not forgotten. WHen I can breathe, it will >come. --alyce I'll bet Marie doesn't have nearly such a good excuse. Is the neighbor boy coming regularly to take care of the dog?? I hope you feel better soon. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:37:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2Gb9Y7001789 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:37:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041C718@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:37:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3072905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:37:07 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2Gb7V07082 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:37:07 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust60.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.62]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:37:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC3FFAF.AD01E226@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 11:39:11 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signs References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102113103.00a05a40@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > I'll bet Marie doesn't have nearly such a good excuse. Is the neighbor boy > coming regularly to take care of the dog?? I hope you feel better soon. Riley missed two days this week. I cannot hear the doorbell in the living room if I have TV on. I have told him to come on in. But on Wednesday he came, I didn't hear him, and he did not come in, so ran off. On Thursday he had "unexpected" volley ball practice. Now that it gets dark earlier, there is less after-school leeway. Before, he came as late as six, but now it is dark then. I hope I feel better soon, too. It is very scary to be alone and not be able to breathe well. alyce > > --bonniev -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:46:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2GkXY7001845 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:46:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041C806@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:46:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3072900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:46:31 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2GaVV07025 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:36:31 -0500 Received: from email1.xeno-technology.com ([216.34.4.252]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA2GaUm28285 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:36:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 22826 invoked by uid 99); 2 Nov 2002 16:41:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20021102164110.22825.qmail@email1.xeno-technology.com> Date: 2 Nov 2002 08:41:10 -0800 From: To: blackass777@yahoo.com Subject: IMPORTANT Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Confidential Business Proposal From the desk of:DR.Benedict smith Tel No: Your Intl. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:51:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2GpFY7001872 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:51:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C26F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:51:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3073334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:51:13 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f126.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2GpDV08251 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:51:13 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:51:07 -0800 Received: from 209.246.107.211 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 16:51:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.246.107.211] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Signs Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 11:51:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2002 16:51:07.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A4D1300:01C28290] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >I'll bet Marie doesn't have nearly such a good excuse I don't need no steenkin excuse. The Moose Munch finally made it to the P.O. yesterday. However, unfortunately it certainly is not packed as well as it should be -- I arrived there with no materials, bought a too-big box and didn't have anything to stuff in the box along with the package. So surely it's flopping its way up to Bar Harbor, I hope not getting too pulverized along the way. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:54:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2GsfY7001884 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:54:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C2710@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:54:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3073433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:54:40 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2GsdV08510 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:54:39 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.6]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4YK7702.8A9 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:52:19 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC4030D.3E671BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 09:53:33 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102030226.AFA807C24@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Not her, her namesake. I had to look him up because he's in that car > commercial and he looks so YOUNG. But he was born in 1919, so he's > oooooold. You've got that backward. She was born before Sir Edmund made his climb, despite what she says. Unless she's lying about her age, of course. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 10:58:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2GwjY7001905 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 10:58:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041C93E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3073488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:58:44 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2GwiV08722 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:58:44 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-40.panax.com [63.163.41.40]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2Gwht07526 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:58:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102115807.00a08510@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 11:58:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Signs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >it's flopping its way up to Bar Harbor, I hope not getting too pulverized >along the way. --Marie Yes !!! Thank you. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 11:54:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2HsJY7002332 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:54:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041CE86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:54:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3074616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:54:12 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2HsCV12201 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:54:12 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021102175406.QSHP29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:54:06 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102095043.02742250@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 09:54:04 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII In-Reply-To: <3DC33202.73A608EF@maynor.net> References: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> <3DC31042.F8B5AE95@maynor.net> <001401c28201$8c78cb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101162259.02f771b0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >The moral here for USAers: VOTE DEMOCRAT! Yes, I realize that parties >like the Greens could take issue with my moral. And I understand their >point. But at least in the short term, I stand behind my advice above. I was really impressed at a recent dinner discussion when somebody said, "It's time to grow up and realize we live in a two-party system. All that energy put into other parties has no real effect. Get over it, and join one or the other of the main parties -- it doesn't matter too much which one -- and work to change it to be the way you want it to be." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 12:01:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2I1iY7002402 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:01:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041CEBB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:01:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3074833 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:01:42 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2I1fV12844 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:01:41 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA13431 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:01:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 094EE38699; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:01:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:01:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII Message-ID: <20021102180140.GB17171@pobox.com> References: <00d401c281fb$9b1da1a0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> <3DC31042.F8B5AE95@maynor.net> <001401c28201$8c78cb60$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021101162259.02f771b0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102095043.02742250@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102095043.02742250@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 09:54:04AM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > I was really impressed at a recent dinner discussion when somebody said, > "It's time to grow up and realize we live in a two-party system. All that > energy put into other parties has no real effect. Get over it, and join > one or the other of the main parties -- it doesn't matter too much which > one -- and work to change it to be the way you want it to be." Never saw it that way. This gives me a whole new perspective on life. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 12:08:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2I8ZY7002437 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:08:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041CEF0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:08:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3075061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:08:33 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2I8XV13397 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:08:33 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA15339 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:08:33 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E376B38699; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:08:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:08:32 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: My day off Message-ID: <20021102180832.GC17171@pobox.com> References: <20021102040815.1DAFC7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <4.2.2.20021101194142.00ab0510@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 10:50:31PM -0800, Bookrat wrote: > Jeez, what kind of a unix whore are you, anyway? I know Unix whores. Betty is no Unix whore. > * stands for zero or more characters. ** is redundant. > > . represents a single character, which makes it particularly appropriate as > your emblem. ..yd is probably what you were thinking of. (This could also > have been represented (as every American who's been to Europe knows) as > .{2}yd .) > > ^*oo.+t$ There seems to be a slight mix-up here. Europe-going Americans, whoever they are, may not be able to make sense of a standalone *. Perhaps .* was meant. *, as Unix non-whore "Betty" has astutely observed, stands for asshole--however, let us also admit "Betty" is an imperfect English-whore for spelling it with two words. Who the hell spells "asshole" with two words? Extremely OLD people. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 12:43:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2IhoY7002656 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:43:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041CFB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:43:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3075963 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:43:48 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2IhmV16180 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:43:48 -0500 Received: from webmail.utk.edu (abbott.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.169]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2IhlVO003447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:43:47 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: dumasb Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:43:47 -0500 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: English Language Discussion Group X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002286 Subject: RE: Shoes Message-ID: <3DD25757@webmail.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie: >Do any of you know of some websites that might have good discounts on >Haflingers? I need some new ones and have decided on the Heidelberg or >something close to it. Haven't found them for less than $100 but would I seldom buy new shoes. Just before I had surgery, I took all my Birks (except the two newest pairs) to our Birks rebuilder place (in West Town Mall) to be rebuilt, re-soled, re-corked, etc. For under $100, I got all of them done. I have a fab shoe wardrobe, mostly Birks. I have been wearing one pair since 1990, most of the others since 1991. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 12:58:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2IwrY7002735 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:58:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041D00B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:58:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076274 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:58:50 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2IwoV17185 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:58:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.246]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102190030.EGTW11981.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC42065.5A2235AF@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 12:58:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Shoes References: <3DD25757@webmail.utk.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Natalie: > >Do any of you know of some websites that might have good discounts on > >Haflingers? I need some new ones and have decided on the Heidelberg or > >something close to it. Haven't found them for less than $100 but would > > I seldom buy new shoes. Just before I had surgery, I took all my Birks (except > the two newest pairs) to our Birks rebuilder place (in West Town Mall) to be > rebuilt, re-soled, re-corked, etc. For under $100, I got all of them done. I > have a fab shoe wardrobe, mostly Birks. I have been wearing one pair since > 1990, most of the others since 1991. But that doesn't answer my question of where to find these Haflingers for under $100. My further explorations have led me to believe nowhere. I had just come back to the computer to go on and order them. I can find wool ones for less, but the ones I'm replacing are wool ones. I've decided I don't like wool shoes because they attract doghairs and generally don't wear as well as leather. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 13:03:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2J35Y7002771 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:03:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041D027@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:03:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:03:02 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2J31V17527 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:03:01 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA2J2x982644 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 09:02:59 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 09:03:58 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC394FE.30639.1AED09@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021102144825.3E4CB7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102091924.00b422f0@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 2, 2002 9:20: 4 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Nov 2002 at 6:48, Karen Kay wrote: > That didn't include 'robotically'. So you're against all metaphorical writing or what? mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 13:13:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2JDlY7002806 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:13:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041D082@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:13:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:13:44 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (daemon@Ra.msstate.edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2JDiV18136 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:13:44 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18); id gA2JDhN06260 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:13:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:13:43 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200211021913.gA2JDhN06260@Ra.MsState.Edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Ha! Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did it! Got the shoes for under $100: > Subtotal: $99.95 > Shipping (Standard Ground): $0.00 > Total: $99.95 I hadn't realized that shipping was free for orders over $75. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 13:46:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2JkfY7003008 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:46:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041D1A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:46:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3077161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:46:38 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2JkcV20333 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:46:38 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust12.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.14]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:46:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC42C21.F4598DA@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 14:48:49 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: library dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I love this. ------------- Here in Salt Lake City, the library offers a program called Dog Day Afternoons. Various therapy dogs come to the library, and kids are encouraged to read to the dogs. The kids get to choose the book to read, and the dog to read it to (though I've observed some encouragement - "oh, look, poor Nicki doesn't have anyone reading to him" - along the way). The theory is that it's a way for kids to improve their reading skills, and their confidence in same, by practicing reading in a non-threatening way, without being corrected all the time. (The dogs never point out a mispronounced word!) It was started as a month-long trial several years ago, and has been going strong ever since; it's very popular, and plans to expand it to other libraries around town are going forward. ---------- alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 14:01:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2K1aY7003100 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:01:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C2D63@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:01:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3077480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:01:32 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2K1WV21242 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:01:32 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021102200127.PPUM8743.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:01:27 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102115822.02c7aec0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 12:00:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: library dogs In-Reply-To: <3DC42C21.F4598DA@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Some more links: Intermountain Therapy Animals http://www.therapyanimals.org/read/index.html Paws for Health (Washington State) http://www.pawsforhealth.org/ PfH dogs at Washington library http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/01/8/8/14175626.cfm More broadly, Delta Society Therapy Animals http://www.deltasociety.org/aaat.htm Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 15:48:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2LmrY7003630 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:48:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C306B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:48:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3079782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:48:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:i1Risn+rBFjq1hLvBkhAkEAAqT9hnCjV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2LcnV29712 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:38:49 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA462FE70 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42C3E7C09; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC4030D.3E671BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 2, 2002 9:53:33 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:38:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102213848.42C3E7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Not her, her namesake. I had to look him up because he's in that car > > commercial and he looks so YOUNG. But he was born in 1919, so he's > > oooooold. > > You've got that backward. She was born before Sir Edmund made his > climb, despite what she says. Unless she's lying about her age, of > course. I don't remember where I heard this, that she was named after him. But you're right--I had to check the dates, and I couldn't remember if she was older or younger than me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 15:49:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2LnaY7003638 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:49:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041D5D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:49:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3079785 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:49:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sSNdgOt8PPh4xpBdM1cPLqUidEvyDdlC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2LdXV29745 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:39:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9465E2FE70 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 632BA7C0E; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:39:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102095043.02742250@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 2, 2002 9:54: 4 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:39:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102213932.632BA7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Natalie Maynor writes, > >The moral here for USAers: VOTE DEMOCRAT! Yes, I realize that parties > >like the Greens could take issue with my moral. And I understand their > >point. But at least in the short term, I stand behind my advice above. > > I was really impressed at a recent dinner discussion when somebody said, > "It's time to grow up and realize we live in a two-party system. All that > energy put into other parties has no real effect. Get over it, and join > one or the other of the main parties -- it doesn't matter too much which > one -- and work to change it to be the way you want it to be." This makes more sense to me than "VOTE DEMOCRAT!". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 15:51:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2Lp0Y7003645 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:51:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041D5E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:50:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3079805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:50:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:faQFymlT9AR2yJrfH+xA1w3t45MTarjp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2LeuV29831 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:40:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE772FF61 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1D9AC7C0C; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:40:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC394FE.30639.1AED09@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 9: 3:58 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:40:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102214056.1D9AC7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 2 Nov 2002 at 6:48, Karen Kay wrote: > > That didn't include 'robotically'. > > So you're against all metaphorical writing or what? I'm against confusing writing. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 15:58:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2LwtY7003676 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:58:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3164@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:58:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3080627 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:58:51 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2LwpV31718 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:58:51 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.54]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4YYA600.2AK for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:56:30 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC44A59.40362263@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 14:57:45 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102213848.42C3E7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I don't remember where I heard this, that she was named after him. But > you're right--I had to check the dates, and I couldn't remember if she > was older or younger than me. You heard it the same place the rest of us did - from HER. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 16:14:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2MEiY7003773 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:14:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041D7C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:14:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3081590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:14:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XCcM2SP1+bP6eUpkmUbjgxWqDgN06cgr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2M4dV32633 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:04:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA9A2FDC3 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 16DF57C1D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:04:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC44A59.40362263@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 2, 2002 2:57:45 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:04:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102220439.16DF57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't remember where I heard this, that she was named after him. But > > you're right--I had to check the dates, and I couldn't remember if she > > was older or younger than me. > > You heard it the same place the rest of us did - from HER. Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have anything to do with Everest until 1953. Ick. Oh, John, you'll enjoy this: http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/6/2/213024 Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 16:46:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2MkkY7004207 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:46:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041D931@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:46:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3082854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:46:42 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2MkgV04106 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:46:42 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust140.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.142]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:46:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC45654.2471E5B2@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:48:52 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102220439.16DF57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > John Williams said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > I don't remember where I heard this, that she was named after him. But > > > you're right--I had to check the dates, and I couldn't remember if she > > > was older or younger than me. > > > > You heard it the same place the rest of us did - from HER. > > Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have > anything to do with Everest until 1953. > > Ick. > This is just like the Monk episode when the doctor said he was named for the heart transplant dr (senior moment), but Monk knew he was lying because of when the fellow was born. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 16:51:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2MpvY7004264 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:51:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041D96E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:51:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3082959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:51:53 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2MpqV04412 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:51:52 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA2Mpp946150 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:51:51 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 12:52:50 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021102214056.1D9AC7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC394FE.30639.1AED09@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 9: 3:58 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Nov 2002 at 13:40, Karen Kay wrote: > I'm against confusing writing. What was confusing about it? mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 16:58:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2MwoY7004290 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:58:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C34AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:58:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3082894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:58:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+NLaVqgCR9eUozlDOtvfcsr/RwfUn2nO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2MmjV04238 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:48:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0A12FDDF for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E7FD17C12; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:48:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC45654.2471E5B2@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 2, 2002 5:48:52 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:48:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102224844.E7FD17C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > John Williams said: > > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I don't remember where I heard this, that she was named after him. But > > > > you're right--I had to check the dates, and I couldn't remember if she > > > > was older or younger than me. > > > > > > You heard it the same place the rest of us did - from HER. > > > > Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have > > anything to do with Everest until 1953. > > > > Ick. > > > This is just like the Monk episode when the doctor said he was named for > the heart transplant dr (senior moment), but Monk knew he was lying > because of when the fellow was born. LOL. YES!!! That passed through my mind. The more public the lie, the more disgusting IMHO. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:01:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2N1JY7004330 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:01:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DA09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:01:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:01:15 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N1DV05197 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:01:13 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N1At01732 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:01:11 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102175426.00b55590@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:01:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> References: <20021102214056.1D9AC7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC394FE.30639.1AED09@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:52 PM 11/2/2002 -1000, mem wrote: >What was confusing about it? Leaving aside such considerations as whether "automatically" might be a better fit than "robotically," I found it less confusing that puffed up. Although I am not the most computer-literate of souls, despite all of the verbiage saying (several times) that PC architecture is variable and strange things can happen if you're not careful, the article boiled down to two points: 1. Read the licensing agreement. 2. Discontinue all other applications before installing the new software. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:02:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2N2mY7004338 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:02:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C356A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:02:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3082996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:02:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:o/UPXPdyLMlUSE7SOb7pOSoWCNIKyM15@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2MqhV04496 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:52:43 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4D52FDFC for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1A9697C0E; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:52:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 12:52:50 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:52:42 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102225243.1A9697C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 2 Nov 2002 at 13:40, Karen Kay wrote: > > > I'm against confusing writing. > > What was confusing about it? I don't have a robot in my computer that I know of. There are better word choices. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:03:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2N3pY7004344 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:03:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DA37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:03:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:03:47 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N3kV05425 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:03:46 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N3it02184 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:03:44 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102180146.00b55810@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:03:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <20021102224844.E7FD17C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC45654.2471E5B2@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:48 PM 11/2/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >LOL. YES!!! That passed through my mind. The more public the lie, the >more disgusting IMHO. You realize, of course, that Al Gore invented LOL and IMHO. "These are the best of times, and the worst of times" ---Joe Biden > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:05:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2N5jY7004351 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:05:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DA4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:05:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:05:41 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N5eV05585 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:05:40 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N5ct02488 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:05:39 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102180416.00b556d0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:05:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102175426.00b55590@mail.panax.com> References: <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> <20021102214056.1D9AC7C0C@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC394FE.30639.1AED09@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:01 PM 11/2/2002 -0500, I wrote (with my left foot): >At 12:52 PM 11/2/2002 -1000, mem wrote: > >>What was confusing about it? > >Leaving aside such considerations as whether "automatically" might be a >better fit than "robotically," I found it less confusing [[[that]]] than From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:07:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2N7YY7004361 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:07:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DA61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:07:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:07:30 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail100.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N7UV05839 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:07:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.122]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102230909.MSAC8695.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC45AAA.A6AE3C88@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:07:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: library dogs References: <3DC42C21.F4598DA@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > I love this. Me too! Maybe I should volunteer Spencer. It would be interesting to see how many books he could eat while being read to. Re therapy dogs, Spencer has turned into one even though he's not . As we make our way through the lobby area and along the hall to my mother's room, he has to stop over and over to be petted by people in wheelchairs. He's very good about it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:09:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2N9hY7004373 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:09:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DA7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:09:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:09:39 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2N9dV05985 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:09:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.122]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102231118.MSVF8695.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:11:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC45B2D.7096C2AF@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:09:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 'Cronkite, on WWIII References: <20021102213932.632BA7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I was really impressed at a recent dinner discussion when somebody said, > > "It's time to grow up and realize we live in a two-party system. All that > > energy put into other parties has no real effect. Get over it, and join > > one or the other of the main parties -- it doesn't matter too much which > > one -- and work to change it to be the way you want it to be." > > This makes more sense to me than "VOTE DEMOCRAT!". Isn't it the same thing -- as in ? It was certainly my point when I mentioned Greens etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:12:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NCDY7004389 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:12:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DA98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:12:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:12:09 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NC9V06203 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:12:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.122]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102231348.MTVY8695.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:13:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC45BC3.6764BC22@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:12:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102220439.16DF57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > John Williams said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > I don't remember where I heard this, that she was named after him. But > > > you're right--I had to check the dates, and I couldn't remember if she > > > was older or younger than me. > > > > You heard it the same place the rest of us did - from HER. > > Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have > anything to do with Everest until 1953. I don't know anything about how she got her name, but what's wrong with being named for somebody who later became famous? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:23:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NNeY7004460 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:23:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DB11@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:23:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:23:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YKiYg39k/zBPpCNQzlj2Dk51cg3SHg8K@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NDZV06267 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:13:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BA32FE14 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3971E7C12; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:13:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC45BC3.6764BC22@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 5:12: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:13:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > John Williams said: > > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I don't remember where I heard this, that she was named after him. But > > > > you're right--I had to check the dates, and I couldn't remember if she > > > > was older or younger than me. > > > > > > You heard it the same place the rest of us did - from HER. > > > > Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have > > anything to do with Everest until 1953. > > I don't know anything about how she got her name, but what's wrong with > being named for somebody who later became famous? How could she have been named for him if he wasn't famous? It's not like they were family buddies or anything. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:25:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NPlY7004471 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:25:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DB2B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:25:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:25:39 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NPcV07128 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:25:38 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA2NPa969520 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:25:36 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 13:26:29 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC3D285.14894.10B40D0@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102175426.00b55590@mail.panax.com> References: <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Nov 2002 at 18:01, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Leaving aside such considerations as whether "automatically" might be > a better fit than "robotically," I found it less confusing that puffed > up. Puffed up, yes. A writer trying to make engaging something that is not, for most, intrinsically interesting. I think "automatically" would have missed a nuance the writer was trying to convey. Installation scripts are programmed, mechanical, unvarying, unable to accommodate unusual environments. "Robot-like" might have been a better choice. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:25:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NPmY7004472 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:25:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3614@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:25:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:25:42 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NPdV07132 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:25:39 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA2NPc969555 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:25:38 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 13:26:28 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC3D284.20857.10B403A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021102225243.1A9697C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 12:52:50 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Nov 2002 at 14:52, Karen Kay wrote: > I don't have a robot in my computer that I know of. The plaint of the literalist. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:50:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NofY7004621 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:50:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DC3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:50:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:50:37 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail012.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NobV08712 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:50:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.4]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021102235216.FRHI13979.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:52:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:50:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't know anything about how she got her name, but what's wrong with > > being named for somebody who later became famous? > > How could she have been named for him if he wasn't famous? It's not > like they were family buddies or anything. I don't know who her family did or didn't know at the time of her birth. I think it's unlikely that they would be buddies with somebody who lived that far away, of course, but I really know nothing about their personal life. A more likely guess would be that her parents might have told her that jokingly later in her life or that she perhaps said it jokingly. I don't know the context of her saying it, but I can imagine some occasions when the metaphor might work. As for the thought that she just made it up as an outright lie, what would be the point? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:57:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NvcY7004658 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:57:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DC88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:57:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:57:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tG49yynhaWimD+trbfCaviKzSXynSltl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NlXV08514 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:47:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792C72FE98 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 354F07C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3D284.20857.10B403A@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 1:26:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:47:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102234732.354F07C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 2 Nov 2002 at 14:52, Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't have a robot in my computer that I know of. > > The plaint of the literalist. Maybe. But the article still sucked. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:58:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NweY7004663 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:58:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DC90@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:58:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084570 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:58:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Wn5n4kmq4UOT7AqJP3Y5VRWZLAF+jgE+@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NmaV08568 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:48:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167E82FF68 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C39F97C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:48:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3D285.14894.10B40D0@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 1:26:29 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:48:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102234835.C39F97C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > Installation scripts are programmed, mechanical, unvarying, unable to > accommodate unusual environments. "Robot-like" might have been a > better choice. Or 'programmed, mechanical, unvarying, unable to accommodate unusual environments'. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 17:59:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA2NxiY7004673 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:59:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DCA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:59:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:59:39 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NxdV09290 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:59:39 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-202.panax.com [63.163.41.202]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2Nxbt10887 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:59:38 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102185825.009ed410@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:59:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <20021102224844.E7FD17C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC45654.2471E5B2@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have > > anything to do with Everest until 1953. >Karen But that's not the same thing as saying that Hillary was a complete unknown. Perhaps he was known and admired for being an explorer and a driven man, always looking for the next challenge. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:00:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3004Y7004704 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:00:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DCA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:59:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:59:59 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NxxV09307 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:59:59 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.54]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Z3W202.6BC for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:57:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC466BF.C56E29DA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 16:58:55 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102220439.16DF57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have > anything to do with Everest until 1953. "By George, I think she's got it!" > Ick. Indeed. > Oh, John, you'll enjoy this: > http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/6/2/213024 "Enjoy" isn't quite the verb I'd use, especially while contemplating dinner. She also claimed to have used a rifle, which if true would have gotten her the votes she lost from kissing Arafat. Her husband claimed to be a Life Member of the NRA, too. I remember that distinctly as I nearly hurt myself laughing at the time. I recall the photo op during the '92 campaign where Bill showed up in cammies, a vest, and DRY BOOTS carrying a Remington 1100 12-gauge and claimed he'd been duck hunting. A friend of mine said, "Oh, REALLY? Don't suppose they took a picture of his hunting license and duck stamp, did they?" Oh, well, state law, Federal law, what's the difference. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:03:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3039Y7004721 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:03:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DCD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:03:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:03:04 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3034V09542 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:03:04 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.54]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Z41D00.PAG for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:00:49 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC46782.CFFAC9E3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:02:10 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: >As for the thought > that she just made it up as an outright lie, what would be the point? My God, now NATALIE's got it! JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:04:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA304FY7004730 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:04:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C36D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:04:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:04:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:G21npemHd5bGucUjrYaBnEO7gl04+ezo@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA2NsAV09008 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:54:10 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815CD2FF66 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D1CC07C14; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:54:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 5:50:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:54:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021102235407.D1CC07C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > As for the thought > that she just made it up as an outright lie, what would be the point? Evidently to curry favor: "The American Spectator reports in 1996 that on her Asian tour, Hillary Clinton told New Zealand television that she had been named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Sir Edmund, however, was an unknown beekeeper the year of Mrs. Clinton's birth." http://www.uhuh.com/clinton/hrc-hits.htm Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:11:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30BBY7004763 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:11:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3708@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:11:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:11:07 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30B6V10437 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:11:06 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA30B5901408 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 14:11:05 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 14:12:02 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC3DD32.18242.134F81D@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021102234732.354F07C0D@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC3D284.20857.10B403A@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 1:26:28 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Nov 2002 at 15:47, Karen Kay wrote: > Maybe. But the article still sucked. I think your technical sophistication, perhaps even elitism, has removed you from all comprehension of the audience for which that article was intended and the writing conventions of that medium. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:14:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30EaY7004778 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:14:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DD61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:14:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:14:32 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail022.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30EVV10635 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:14:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.211]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103001608.VBOX1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:16:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC46A62.FA70F6E2@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:14:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102235407.D1CC07C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > As for the thought > > that she just made it up as an outright lie, what would be the point? > > Evidently to curry favor: "The American Spectator reports in 1996 that > on her Asian tour, Hillary Clinton told New Zealand television that > she had been named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Sir Edmund, however, was > an unknown beekeeper the year of Mrs. Clinton's birth." Ahh. So she said it to New Zealanders. I didn't know that part. I can see how that might be to curry favor, though why she would be trying to curry their favor, I'm not totally sure. It seems a bit odd to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:16:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30GNY7004810 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:16:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DD7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:16:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084898 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:16:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:CF7iXIj7KuEHe0cTUTIBYKtAs3KwVAej@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA306HV09915 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:06:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C9B2FF66 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D877C7C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102185825.009ed410@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 2, 2002 6:59:25 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103000616.D877C7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > > Well, this is horrendous. She was born in 1947 and Hillary didn't have > > > anything to do with Everest until 1953. > >Karen > > But that's not the same thing as saying that Hillary was a complete > unknown. Perhaps he was known and admired for being an explorer and a > driven man, always looking for the next challenge. No. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:19:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30J0Y7004818 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:19:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C373C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:18:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:18:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LMcxeAGu3RJZS2HY/VhIhg4+/ohkSFJ6@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA308sV10132 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:08:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0AE2FF6B for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B16217C0A; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:08:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Gladiator To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:08:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why is this interesting? Natalie shouldn't watch it; a dog gets killed. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:19:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30JSY7004823 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:19:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DDA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:19:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:19:23 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail122.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30JNV10957 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:19:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.211]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103002059.VEJI1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:20:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC46B86.B5286392@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:19:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102220439.16DF57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC466BF.C56E29DA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Her husband claimed to be a Life Member of the NRA, too. I remember that > distinctly as I nearly hurt myself laughing at the time. I recall the photo > op during the '92 campaign where Bill showed up in cammies, a vest, and DRY > BOOTS carrying a Remington 1100 12-gauge and claimed he'd been duck hunting. > A friend of mine said, "Oh, REALLY? Don't suppose they took a picture of his > hunting license and duck stamp, did they?" I don't know much about Arkansas, but I can say that it would be very unusual for a male of his age who grew up in Mississippi not to have ever gone hunting. Not totally impossible, just quite unusual. And Arkansas does border Mississippi (though I usually forget that -- I think of Mississippi's bordering states as Alabama, Louisiana, and Tennessee -- for some reason I forget Arkansas -- maybe that's because I didn't grow up in north Mississippi). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:23:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30NWY7004852 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:23:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3761@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail022.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30NRV11170 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.211]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103002503.VGMS1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:25:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC46C7A.AEDE65A@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:23:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> <3DC46782.CFFAC9E3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > that she just made it up as an outright lie, what would be the point? > > My God, now NATALIE's got it! No, it was a question. I couldn't understand why somebody would want to make up a lie about being named for somebody. As in why would it be a plus of any kind? I've been asked in my life if I was named for Natalie Wood. It wouldn't take more than a few years of hedging for me to make that claim since she was older than I was and was famous pretty early. But why in the world would I want anybody to think I was named for a famous person? It makes much more sense to me to want to claim to be named for a beloved ancestor. (I wasn't. I still wish my parents had followed the thought they had of naming me Susan Jane for Susannah Jane Swittenberg.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:23:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30NoY7004860 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:23:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DDD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:23:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:23:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OAMh3JhLGyEDOH/cXozcGqGCj/x+R/xH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30DjV10573 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:13:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F8B2FDC3 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:13:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BB17D7C11; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:13:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3DD32.18242.134F81D@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 2:12: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:13:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103001344.BB17D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > I think your technical sophistication, perhaps even elitism, has > removed you from all comprehension of the audience for which that > article was intended and the writing conventions of that medium. Au contraire: I could only imagine it generating a zillion phone calls and costing the company money. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:30:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30UFY7004913 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:30:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DE2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:30:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:30:11 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30UAV11645 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:30:10 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-86.panax.com [65.114.190.86]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30U8t15689 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:30:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102192906.009ef7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:29:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Why is this interesting? > >Natalie shouldn't watch it; a dog gets killed. >Karen I started watching some cat show on TV until they began to show cats filleted, cats gutted and salted, etc. etc. Yuck, and double yuck. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:31:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30VdY7004924 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:31:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3791@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:31:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:31:34 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30VYV11712 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:31:34 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-86.panax.com [65.114.190.86]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30VXt15922 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:31:33 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193019.009f5410@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:31:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC46C7A.AEDE65A@maynor.net> References: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> <3DC46782.CFFAC9E3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I couldn't understand why somebody would want to >make up a lie about being named for somebody. As in why would it be a >plus of any kind? -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I wonder why my mother told me I was named for Connie Rae, who was a famous singer or something in 1945. I've never found any reference to her. I wonder if my mother made that up. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:38:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30cMY7004959 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:38:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DE4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:38:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:38:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30cHV12184 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:38:17 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.54]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Z5O201.YBF for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:36:02 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC46FC2.676F7E7B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:37:23 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Why is this interesting? Because they stole the Celts war chant from "Zulu". JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:39:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30dGY7004965 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:39:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DE53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:11 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30dAV12287 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:10 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30d8t17079 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193330.00b630a8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:35:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3D284.20857.10B403A@localhost> References: <20021102225243.1A9697C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:26 PM 11/2/2002 -1000, mem wrote: >On 2 Nov 2002 at 14:52, Karen Kay wrote: > > > I don't have a robot in my computer that I know of. > >The plaint of the literalist. As I thought a bit about this issue, it occurred to me that one's computer, i.e,. the sum of hardware and software, a robot. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:39:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30dHY7004968 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:39:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C37B6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085520 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:12 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30dBV12288 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:11 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30d6t17074 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:06 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193237.00b4a408@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:33:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3D285.14894.10B40D0@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102175426.00b55590@mail.panax.com> <3DC3CAA2.14634.EC7310@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:26 PM 11/2/2002 -1000, mem wrote: >On 2 Nov 2002 at 18:01, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > > Leaving aside such considerations as whether "automatically" might be > > a better fit than "robotically," I found it less confusing that puffed > > up. > >Puffed up, yes. A writer trying to make engaging something that is >not, for most, intrinsically interesting. I think "automatically" >would have missed a nuance the writer was trying to convey. >Installation scripts are programmed, mechanical, unvarying, unable to >accommodate unusual environments. "Robot-like" might have been a >better choice. I see the distinction, and I agree. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:39:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30dIY7004969 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:39:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041DE54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:12 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30dCV12296 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:12 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30dAt17082 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:10 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193541.00b6d698@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:38:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3DD32.18242.134F81D@localhost> References: <20021102234732.354F07C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC3D284.20857.10B403A@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:12 PM 11/2/2002 -1000, mem wrote: >On 2 Nov 2002 at 15:47, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Maybe. But the article still sucked. > >I think your technical sophistication, perhaps even elitism, has >removed you from all comprehension of the audience for which that >article was intended and the writing conventions of that medium. There you go, talking like an editor again... The gentleman who was my mentor in editing was fond of saying that a good editor rooted for his/her author while always remembering the audience. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:40:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30eGY7004979 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:40:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C37BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:40:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:40:11 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30eAV12394 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:40:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.54]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Z5R702.7BO for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:37:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC47034.9F8EC486@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:39:16 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102220439.16DF57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC466BF.C56E29DA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC46B86.B5286392@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't know much about Arkansas, but I can say that it would be very > unusual for a male of his age who grew up in Mississippi not to have > ever gone hunting. Not totally impossible, just quite unusual. Yah honuh, Ah rest mah cayse. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:46:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30k6Y7005021 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:46:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C37E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:46:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:45:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30jvV12857 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:45:57 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.43]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H4Z60U01.JBC for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:43:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC4718E.F860B4CC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 17:45:02 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102192906.009ef7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I started watching some cat show on TV until they began to show cats > filleted, cats gutted and salted, etc. etc. Yuck, and double yuck. Earlier today I was reading a 16th Century English recipe for plucking, cooking, *feeding*, and then eating a +living+ goose. No wonder I'm not very hungry. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:46:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30k6Y7005022 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:46:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C37E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:46:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:46:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30k0V12861 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:46:00 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-5.panax.com [65.114.190.5]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30jwt18122 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:45:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102194058.00b6bb98@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:45:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102192906.009ef7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:29 PM 11/2/2002 -0500, bonnie wrote: >>Why is this interesting? >> >>Natalie shouldn't watch it; a dog gets killed. >>Karen > >I started watching some cat show on TV until they began to show cats >filleted, cats gutted and salted, etc. etc. Yuck, and double yuck. The domestic cat is a standard item for dissection and study in Comparative Vertebrate Anatomy. The only reason must be because cats are so easy to acquire for this purpose. As a "representative" of higher-level vertebrates, the cat is 'way out on one end of the distribution. It is not "typical" of much but rather is an example of highly sophisticated, specialized design for a predator. In Comparative Anatomy labs, one hoped to draw as one's dissection assignment an alley cat or a feral cat; those cats who had led pampered, domesticated lives had too damned much fat to cut through and get rid of at every stage of the dissection. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:54:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30sFY7005096 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:54:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DE99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:54:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:54:10 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30sAV13493 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:54:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.129]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103005550.BTYT14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:55:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC473AB.3AEC26C6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:54:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102192906.009ef7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >Natalie shouldn't watch it; a dog gets killed. > >Karen > > I started watching some cat show on TV until they began to show cats > filleted, cats gutted and salted, etc. etc. Yuck, and double yuck. I've wondered at times why I react so passionately if a dog is threatened in a movie. When I was watching that movie a few nights ago ("The Stepfather"), there was a moment when it appeared that this murderer was going to murder a dog. I freaked out and started screaming "NOOOO -- DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT -- I CAN'T STAND THIS." I don't react that way to murders of human beings in movies, though I'm not really wild about movies that include murders or other violence. I think I know why I feel that way about animals. We have perhaps even discussed this before. What's upsetting about animal abuse is that they don't understand what's happening or why. They're so trusting and innocent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 18:57:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA30v6Y7005109 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:57:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DEA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:57:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085979 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:57:01 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30v0V13667 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:57:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.129]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103005840.BWIS14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:58:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC47457.1E557F19@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:56:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> <3DC46782.CFFAC9E3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193019.009f5410@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I wonder why my mother told me I was named for Connie Rae, who was a famous > singer or something in 1945. I've never found any reference to her. I > wonder if my mother made that up. Did she say why she changed CR to BM? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:00:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3101Y7005144 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:00:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DEB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:59:56 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30xuV13906 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:59:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.129]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103010136.BYSI14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:01:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC47507.C5EF7A7D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 18:59:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102194058.00b6bb98@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > The domestic cat is a standard item for dissection and study in Comparative > Vertebrate Anatomy. I'd forgotten about "anatomy of a cat." I never took it, of course, but I remember that that used to be a regular term for some kind of course -- presumably Comparative Vertebrate Anatomy -- back in the olden days. My parents used to use that term for a course that was of their generation, though I don't think either of them took it since Daddy was a history major and Mama an English major. But I think the term was still around in my college years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:04:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA314LY7005179 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:04:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3861@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:04:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:04:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA30sGV13498 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:54:16 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA30sEVO026017 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:54:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:54:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193019.009f5410@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, bonniev wrote: >I wonder why my mother told me I was named for Connie Rae, who was a famous >singer or something in 1945. I've never found any reference to her. I >wonder if my mother made that up. I remember her. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:08:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA318rY7005213 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:08:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041DF25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:08:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086276 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:08:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA318mV14592 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:08:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:08:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC477A1.8595B40E@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 20:10:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> <3DC46782.CFFAC9E3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193019.009f5410@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > I wonder why my mother told me I was named for Connie Rae, who was a famous > singer or something in 1945. I've never found any reference to her. I > wonder if my mother made that up. > I was named for Alice ROosevelt. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:12:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31C4Y7005225 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:12:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C38A7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:11:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:11:59 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31BxV14830 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:11:59 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:11:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC4785F.7467B503@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 20:14:07 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, bonniev wrote: > > >I wonder why my mother told me I was named for Connie Rae, who was a famous > >singer or something in 1945. I've never found any reference to her. I > >wonder if my mother made that up. > > I remember her. I never heard of her. There's some Connie Rae song on mp3 or whatever it's called, according to Google. alyce alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:15:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31FOY7005264 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:15:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041DF76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:15:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:15:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31FJV15044 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:15:19 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA18235 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:15:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id CF8AA38699; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:15:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:15:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Ridiculous variation alert Message-ID: <20021103011517.GA3831@pobox.com> References: <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102194058.00b6bb98@mail.panax.com> <3DC47507.C5EF7A7D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC47507.C5EF7A7D@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The word is "supposably". I am sorry but this doesn't strike me as a cute mistake. It's wrong and that's it. Further, no explanation on the lines of "you don't say allegeably" ever gets across. Of course I got this example out of talking about mispronun- ciations--the above has nothing to do with pronouncing, but this is the general quality of talk that I am now grateful for ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:25:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31PwY7005315 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:25:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E00E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:25:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:25:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mVzmFKD3yX5VkULkKUCQNQmebbWUSqpt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31FrV15069 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:15:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9222D2FDC0 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 58FBB7C0E; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:15:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193330.00b630a8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 2, 2002 7:35:25 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:15:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103011552.58FBB7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 01:26 PM 11/2/2002 -1000, mem wrote: > >On 2 Nov 2002 at 14:52, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > I don't have a robot in my computer that I know of. > > > >The plaint of the literalist. > > As I thought a bit about this issue, it occurred to me that one's computer, > i.e,. the sum of hardware and software, a robot. Only metaphorically. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:26:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31QQY7005320 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:26:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E015@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:26:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:26:21 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31QKV16039 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:26:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.235]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103012800.ZYOY7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:28:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC47B35.321D0178@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:26:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Quandary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I mentioned last night my annoyance at the Knoxville newspaper for not giving full obituaries in their online edition. Possibly it would have been word-for-word what I read in the Jackson paper late yesterday, though, so I would still be in a quandary. Last night I said that I wanted to find out why this cousin died, which I still do want to find out. But now I'm in a quandary about what to do. I found out too late to send flowers, so I want to send some kind of gift in her memory to some charitable cause. But I have no idea at all what cause. The Jackson obituary said nothing about that. I'm pretty sure that the story of her meeting her husband, the person I had known in Knoxville when he was still married to somebody else, was about meeting at church. So today I took the name of the preacher doing the funeral and googled for him and Knoxville, thinking that if I could find out the name of their church, that would be a likely place to send a contribution. But the only hits I found identified him as some kind of chaplain for the Knoxville jails. It did say he was a Baptist, but no particular church was identified. I know for sure that these people weren't into jail stuff. So why that preacher did the funeral, I don't know. I don't know anything about their favorite causes in life, and I don't know why Beth died. (I think I mentioned last night that sometimes obituaries give clues even if they don't specifically give the cause of death. One of those clues sometimes is in the favorite charities -- like the Heart Association if somebody died of a heart attack, etc. etc.) So what should I do? Should I pick some random cause in Knoxville? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:27:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31R0Y7005324 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:27:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E01A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:26:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086418 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:26:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NpcAu9ltnLF7r8pO7BGW1KSIsF2uoTxx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31GtV15138 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:16:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7C72FDC0 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 52D3D7C14; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:16:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <3DC4718E.F860B4CC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 2, 2002 5:45: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:16:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103011652.52D3D7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Earlier today I was reading a 16th Century English recipe for > plucking, cooking, *feeding*, and then eating a +living+ goose. Why? > No wonder I'm not very hungry. I have soup and cornbread... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:28:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31SSY7005336 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:28:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C390B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:28:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:28:23 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:571uCluGlyJZzf+O4W2/yrnzkLrWPzAv@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31INV15215 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:18:23 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760BD2FDC0 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4072B7C0A; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:18:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <3DC473AB.3AEC26C6@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 6:54: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:18:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > bonniev wrote: > > > >Natalie shouldn't watch it; a dog gets killed. > > >Karen > > > > I started watching some cat show on TV until they began to show cats > > filleted, cats gutted and salted, etc. etc. Yuck, and double yuck. > > I've wondered at times why I react so passionately if a dog is > threatened in a movie. When I was watching that movie a few nights ago > ("The Stepfather"), there was a moment when it appeared that this > murderer was going to murder a dog. I freaked out and started screaming > "NOOOO -- DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT -- I CAN'T STAND THIS." I don't > react that way to murders of human beings in movies, though I'm not > really wild about movies that include murders or other violence. I > think I know why I feel that way about animals. We have perhaps even > discussed this before. What's upsetting about animal abuse is that they > don't understand what's happening or why. They're so trusting and > innocent. Then you should be okay with the dog being killed in Gladiator: he was chewing on Russell Crowe's arm. Not exactly a trusting or innocent thing to do. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:28:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31SdY7005341 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:28:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E035@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:28:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086775 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:28:33 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31SXV16236 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:28:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.235]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103013013.ZZRX7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:30:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC47BBC.B22ECB29@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:28:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ridiculous variation alert References: <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102194058.00b6bb98@mail.panax.com> <3DC47507.C5EF7A7D@maynor.net> <20021103011517.GA3831@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > The word is "supposably". I am sorry but this doesn't strike > me as a cute mistake. It's wrong and that's it. Further, no > explanation on the lines of "you don't say allegeably" ever > gets across. You could say, "You don't say undoubtably, do you?" Haha. Bet they do. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:32:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31WvY7005378 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:32:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3927@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:32:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:32:51 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe15.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31WpV16497 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:32:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:32:46 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: movie time Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:32:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 01:32:46.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[E97019E0:01C282D8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id gA31WvY7005378 Showtime with Eddie Murphy and Robert deNiro. This afternoon I saw the documentary called 9/11 about the French filmmakers shooting Ladder Company One when the twin towers were hit. It is a powerful piece, and told in a professional, unsentimental style. -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:33:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31XdY7005385 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:33:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E067@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:33:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:33:34 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31XYV16538 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:33:34 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:33:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC47D6E.4CB09868@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 20:35:42 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary References: <3DC47B35.321D0178@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > So what should I do? Should I pick some random cause in Knoxville? Contact the jail guy. I'll bet it is he. He will tell you where to send your donation. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:39:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31dLY7005413 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:39:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C394E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:39:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3086913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:39:16 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31cjV16861 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:38:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.235]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103014025.ENJ7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:40:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC47E20.BF29C8D5@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:38:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Then you should be okay with the dog being killed in Gladiator: he was > chewing on Russell Crowe's arm. Not exactly a trusting or innocent > thing to do. That depends. There's chewing and there's chewing. Spencer often chews on my arm. Also, he might have been chewing antagonistically in order to help somebody else. I'd need to know much more before deciding that it was ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:41:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31f1Y7005418 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:41:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3968@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:40:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:40:56 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31euV17381 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:40:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.235]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103014235.FPM7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:42:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC47EA3.6535E21C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:40:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary References: <3DC47B35.321D0178@maynor.net> <3DC47D6E.4CB09868@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Contact the jail guy. I'll bet it is he. He will tell you where to send > your donation. Hmm. It might be difficult to get to him. I wonder whether there's an e-mail address for the Knoxville jails. I should check. (The fact that his last name is Smith doesn't help in tracking him down.) Thanks for the suggestion. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:41:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31fRY7005422 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:41:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E0CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:41:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:41:22 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31fLV17422 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:41:21 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA31fK963638 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:41:20 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 15:42:15 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC3F257.31804.1878DD8@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021103001344.BB17D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC3DD32.18242.134F81D@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 2:12: 2 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Nov 2002 at 16:13, Karen Kay wrote: > Au contraire: I could only imagine it generating a zillion phone > calls and costing the company money. I think I can safely rest my case. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:52:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31q5Y7005484 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:52:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041E14D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:51:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:51:59 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31pxV18141 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:51:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.235]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103015338.LEQ7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:53:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC48139.857B6BCF@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:51:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Knoxville Progress Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've discovered by moving backwards on that jail url that it's a of the Knox County Association of Baptists. I bet this man is a preacher at some Baptist church in Knoxville. I really dislike giving to Baptist churches, but I do it when I think it would make a dead person happy. http://bellsouthpwp.net/k/c/kcaob/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:52:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31q6Y7005487 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:52:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E14D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:52:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:52:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:D0j0AzMSTf1/hmdGmVoM2FFk9jldweq7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31g0V17450 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:42:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0D62FE17 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:41:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 764D87C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:41:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <3DC47E20.BF29C8D5@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 7:38:40 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:41:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103014159.764D87C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Then you should be okay with the dog being killed in Gladiator: he was > > chewing on Russell Crowe's arm. Not exactly a trusting or innocent > > thing to do. > > That depends. There's chewing and there's chewing. Spencer often chews > on my arm. Also, he might have been chewing antagonistically in order > to help somebody else. I'd need to know much more before deciding that > it was ok. It was during a battle--it was an attack dog. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:52:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31qsY7005493 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:52:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041E15A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:52:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:52:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:n2q/cQYGovPiSrbK01qGKtWKFHs/v+Ev@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31gmV17517 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:42:48 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB322FE09 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 827317C0C; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:42:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The perils of Windows installation In-Reply-To: <3DC3F257.31804.1878DD8@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 2, 2002 3:42:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:42:47 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103014247.827317C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 2 Nov 2002 at 16:13, Karen Kay wrote: > > Au contraire: I could only imagine it generating a zillion phone > > calls and costing the company money. > > I think I can safely rest my case. Okay. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 19:54:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA31s7Y7005499 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:54:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E169@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:54:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:53:15 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA31rEV18241 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:53:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.235]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103015454.LXV7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:54:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC48185.B011F7B9@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:53:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Knoxville Progress References: <3DC48139.857B6BCF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I've discovered by moving backwards on that jail url that it's a > of the Knox County Association of Baptists. I bet this man Correction: It's a , not a . It's grouped with the truck-stop mission. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 20:05:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA325mY7005572 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:05:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E1E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:05:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:05:43 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA325gV19215 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:05:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.235]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103020722.SMS7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:07:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC48471.877029EA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 20:05:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Weird Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In googling for the funeral home in Knoxville, what did I pop up but yesterday's obituary from the Jackson paper. Jackson and Knoxville are roughly the same size, I think. Why can the Jackson paper have normal obituaries online but Knoxville not? http://www.clarionledger.com/news/miss/deaths/2002110119.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 20:25:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA32PaY7005674 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:25:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E2B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:25:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087891 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:25:30 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32PUV20327 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:25:30 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-239.panax.com [63.163.41.239]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32PTt32528 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:25:29 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212451.00a14030@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:25:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102194058.00b6bb98@mail.panax.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102192906.009ef7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >In Comparative Anatomy labs, one hoped >to draw as one's dissection assignment an alley cat or a feral cat; those >cats who had led pampered, domesticated lives had too damned much fat to >cut through and get rid of at every stage of the dissection. >cwv Thank you for sharing your vivid impressions, Clyde. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 20:27:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA32R9Y7005681 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:27:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041E2C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:27:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:27:03 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32R3V20414 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:27:03 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-239.panax.com [63.163.41.239]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32R2t32707 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:27:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212554.00a127d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:26:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC47457.1E557F19@maynor.net> References: <20021102231335.3971E7C12@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC464C7.3AF6BC53@maynor.net> <3DC46782.CFFAC9E3@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102193019.009f5410@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > I wonder why my mother told me I was named for Connie Rae, who was a famous > > singer or something in 1945. I've never found any reference to her. I > > wonder if my mother made that up. > >Did she say why she changed CR to BM? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) No. Maybe because Mae was my godmother's name. My godfather's name was Joe. Sometimes they called me Bonnie Mae and Joe. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 20:28:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA32SfY7005694 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:28:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E2DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:28:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:28:35 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32SZV20482 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:28:35 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-239.panax.com [63.163.41.239]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32SYt00403 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:28:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212729.00a157f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:28:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC4785F.7467B503@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > >I wonder why my mother told me I was named for Connie Rae, who was a > famous > > >singer or something in 1945. I've never found any reference to her. I > > >wonder if my mother made that up. > > > > I remember her. > >I never heard of her. There's some Connie Rae song on mp3 or whatever >it's called, according to Google. --alyce You are the first two people who have ever heard of such a person. Maybe my mother wasn't making it up. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 20:30:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA32UeY7005723 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:30:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3AA9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:30:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087810 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:30:34 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32KYV20095 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA32KXVO021134 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:20:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:20:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC48471.877029EA@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >In googling for the funeral home in Knoxville, what did I pop up but >yesterday's obituary from the Jackson paper. Jackson and Knoxville are >roughly the same size, I think. Why can the Jackson paper have normal >obituaries online but Knoxville not? What is a ? The KNS usually or often prints the obit supplied by the family. If you had told me you wanted a print verison of an obit, I would have supplied it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 20:51:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA32piY7005825 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:51:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E3E8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:51:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:51:38 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32pbV21883 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:51:37 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-14.panax.com [65.114.190.14]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32pat02928 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:51:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102215050.00a0c3f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:51:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212729.00a157f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DC4785F.7467B503@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>I never heard of her. There's some Connie Rae song on mp3 or whatever >>it's called, according to Google. --alyce She has an email address which makes me doubt that she was the Connie Rae that I was named after. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 20:59:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA32x2Y7005862 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:59:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E426@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:58:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088563 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:58:56 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32wuV22340 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:58:56 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA32ws913934 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:58:54 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 16:59:49 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Hillary Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC40485.4549.1CE931B@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102215050.00a0c3f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212729.00a157f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 2 Nov 2002 at 21:51, bonniev wrote: > She has an email address which makes me doubt that she was the Connie > Rae that I was named after. I think you were named after Johnny Ray. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 21:04:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA334pY7005912 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:04:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:04:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:04:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YAb8oqILl1Q6nvgtTEmQisrvrsWkh3h6@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA32sjV22132 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:54:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A030A2FE35 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6505E7C11; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:54:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102215050.00a0c3f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 2, 2002 9:51:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:54:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103025444.6505E7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >>I never heard of her. There's some Connie Rae song on mp3 or whatever > >>it's called, according to Google. --alyce > > She has an email address which makes me doubt that she was the Connie Rae > that I was named after. But you can ask her if she's named after another singer... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 21:09:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA339KY7005928 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:09:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041E49D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:09:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:09:14 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA339EV23103 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:09:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.73]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103031053.EUAR14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:10:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC49354.3A76AF78@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:09:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > What is a ? One that says something more than a name and age. That's all the Knoxville newspaper gave (online) -- "death notices." > The KNS usually or often prints the obit supplied by the family. If you > had told me you wanted a print verison of an obit, I would have supplied > it. I didn't know about this until late yesterday, at which point I looked at the online Knoxville paper and found only lists, no obituaries. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 21:12:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA33CjY7005941 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:12:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E4C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:12:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:12:39 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA33CdV23283 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:12:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.73]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103031418.EVQR14849.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC49421.3AF0BA04@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:12:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You click on "obituaries" at the Knoxville News-Sentinel's website, and here's what you get for a particular date: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/obituaries/article/0,1406,KNS_370_1517012,00.html I guess the Knoxville idea of what "obituary" means is different from mine. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 21:24:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA33O2Y7006091 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:24:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041E530@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:23:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:23:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:QdRrABBWL7rZYE45DHJpPh4ZDrXy+pqg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA33DuV23367 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:13:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F4D2FE4E for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 49B1C7C0D; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:13:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC49421.3AF0BA04@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 2, 2002 9:12:33 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:13:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103031355.49B1C7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > You click on "obituaries" at the Knoxville News-Sentinel's website, and > here's what you get for a particular date: > > http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/obituaries/article/0,1406,KNS_370_1517012,00.html > > I guess the Knoxville idea of what "obituary" means is different from > mine. They call them Death Notices on purpose, I think. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 21:32:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA33WlY7006160 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:32:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C3BFB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:32:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:32:41 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA33WfV24490 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:32:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:32:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC49958.4A5A0B55@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:34:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hillary References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212729.00a157f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > You are the first two people who have ever heard of such a person. Maybe > my mother wasn't making it up. > Only Bethany. I said I never heard of her. I just googled tonight. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 21:40:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA33epY7006196 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:40:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041E5E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:40:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:40:45 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA33ejV25032 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:40:45 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H4Z00902E7V0Q@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:40:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:42:01 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hillary To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC49B09.1090109@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021102220439.16DF57C1D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC466BF.C56E29DA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC46B86.B5286392@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > >> Her husband claimed to be a Life Member of the NRA, too. I remember that >>distinctly as I nearly hurt myself laughing at the time. I recall the photo >>op during the '92 campaign where Bill showed up in cammies, a vest, and DRY >>BOOTS carrying a Remington 1100 12-gauge and claimed he'd been duck hunting. >>A friend of mine said, "Oh, REALLY? Don't suppose they took a picture of his >>hunting license and duck stamp, did they?" >> > > I don't know much about Arkansas, but I can say that it would be very > unusual for a male of his age who grew up in Mississippi not to have > ever gone hunting. Not totally impossible, just quite unusual. And > Arkansas does border Mississippi (though I usually forget that -- I > think of Mississippi's bordering states as Alabama, Louisiana, and > Tennessee -- for some reason I forget Arkansas -- maybe that's because I > didn't grow up in north Mississippi). And some of those duck blinds in the more upscale preserves are more comfortable than a number of the apartments I've lived in. I wouldn't be surprised he didn't get his feet wet. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 22:19:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA34JfY7006393 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:19:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041EAC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:19:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:19:35 -0500 Received: from cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com [207.46.181.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA34JYV29531 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:19:35 -0500 Received: from computer ([207.95.228.19]) by cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:18:00 -0800 Message-ID: <005901c282f0$305da2c0$13e45fcf@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC47B35.321D0178@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Quandary Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:18:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 04:18:03.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[00C8B270:01C282F0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie Maynor" To: Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Quandary Much deleted.... > > So what should I do? Should I pick some random cause in Knoxville? > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Is there no family you can call and get the details? alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 22:31:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA34VjY7006463 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:31:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041EB0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:31:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:31:38 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA34VcV30279 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:31:38 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA05679 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:31:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 67E5738699; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:31:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:31:37 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator Message-ID: <20021103043137.GA22470@pobox.com> References: <3DC473AB.3AEC26C6@maynor.net> <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:18:22PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Then you should be okay with the dog being killed in Gladiator: he was > chewing on Russell Crowe's arm. Not exactly a trusting or innocent > thing to do. A dog's true nature is never bad. Only the owner makes it so. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 22:43:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA34hKY7006553 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:43:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041EB3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:43:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:43:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:auIo5vzTnClM9dSfiKODB46PZZGFa/GP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA34XCV30408 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:33:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361112FDD3 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EF4617C09; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:33:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <20021103043137.GA22470@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 2, 2002 10:31:37 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:33:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103043311.EF4617C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:18:22PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Then you should be okay with the dog being killed in Gladiator: he was > > chewing on Russell Crowe's arm. Not exactly a trusting or innocent > > thing to do. > > A dog's true nature is never bad. Only the owner makes it so. I'm sure that makes a big difference to the woman in San Francisco who had her throat ripped out by that dog before she could get into her apt. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 22:57:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA34vDY7006679 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:57:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041EB79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:06 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA34v6V31864 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.129.1a4859e1 (2519) for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:59 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <129.1a4859e1.2af6069b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:59 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Phone weirdness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/01/2002 6:54:54 PM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << Not exactly. I think they thought that someone was accessing a psychic hotline or a sex phone thing without my knowing about it, so they opted to shut things down. I still don't see why they didn't just call to ask me. >> That's common in business, the "we know better than you do" mentality. I saw it at Sears when it upgraded a lot of Sears-Card holders to the Sears Gold MasterCard without asking them first. People came in to use their Sears Cards and couldn't; when we called Credit and asked what was going on, we were told that they couldn't go back to their Sears Cards and had to reapply if they just wanted the Sears Card. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 22:57:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA34vDY8006679 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:57:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041EB7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:06 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA34v6V31867 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.102.1df1bdd3 (2519) for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:55 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <102.1df1bdd3.2af60697@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:55 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Voting, Texas Style To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/01/2002 7:19:53 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << One was even religious. I hated the choices!!! >> Sounds like Tulsa. I wish I had a car so that I could make up a bumper sticker that says "Vote Druid." Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 22:57:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA34vEY7006684 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:57:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C47B1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:06 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA34v6V31872 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.6b.14b455e (2519) for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:56 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.14b455e.2af60698@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:56 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Apartment Hunt Ended To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/01/2002 7:11:41 PM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << There is a sunken living room, a fireplace, a/c, a dishwasher, gas heat and stove. >> No refrigerator? I hope he gets one that is frost-free; I hate having to defrost the freezer. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 2 22:57:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA34vFY7006688 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 22:57:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041EB7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3096984 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:07 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA34v7V31876 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:57:07 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.d4.1f9a82e4 (2519) for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:58 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 23:56:57 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Apartment Hunt Ended To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/01/2002 7:11:41 PM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << And that is good because I seem to have a bad brochitis thing going on and breathing has been a challenge for about a week. Got antibiotics on Wednesday and am using a nebulizer to try to open some airways. >> Oh, Alyce, I hope you are feeling better soon! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 06:55:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3CtsY7010080 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:55:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041F3CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 7:55:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106111 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:55:44 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3CthV31459 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:55:43 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-92.panax.com [65.114.190.92]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3Ctgt09295 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:55:42 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103075509.009fa0e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 07:55:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Hillary In-Reply-To: <3DC40485.4549.1CE931B@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102215050.00a0c3f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212729.00a157f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > She has an email address which makes me doubt that she was the Connie > > Rae that I was named after. > >I think you were named after Johnny Ray. Hey! That could be. I was supposed to be a boy. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 06:58:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3CwGY7010089 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:58:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C5375@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 7:58:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:57:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3CvvV31603 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:57:57 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-92.panax.com [65.114.190.92]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3Cvut09584 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:57:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103075657.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 07:57:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <20021103043137.GA22470@pobox.com> References: <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC473AB.3AEC26C6@maynor.net> <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >A dog's true nature is never bad. Only the owner makes it so. That's very true, T Bone. If you've ever had a puppy and looked into those innocent eyes, you would know they are born good. There is no evil. "It's all good." --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 07:00:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3D01Y7010118 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:00:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C537A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 7:59:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:59:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3CnoV31162 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:49:50 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3Cnl27032412 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:49:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <20021103031355.49B1C7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> I guess the Knoxville idea of what "obituary" means is different from >> mine. > >They call them Death Notices on purpose, I think. Right. The online KNS prints a fwe obits - but only for very prominent individuals (see Bud Seymour for October 25) - or possibly (I'm not sure) for individuals whose families paid for extra-length obits - it is usual for newspapers to charge for longer obits. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 07:00:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3D07Y7010122 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:00:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C537C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 7:59:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:59:57 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3CxvV31707 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:59:57 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-92.panax.com [65.114.190.92]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3Cxut09851 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:59:56 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103075847.009fab10@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 07:59:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Phone weirdness In-Reply-To: <129.1a4859e1.2af6069b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I saw it at Sears when it upgraded a lot of Sears-Card holders to the >Sears Gold MasterCard without asking them first. --Evelyn Duncan Yup. Happened to us. I use my Sears Card on an average of once every five years. But now I have a gold card. Whooppee. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 07:19:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3DJGY7010245 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:19:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041F430@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 8:19:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106516 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:19:05 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3DJ5V00440 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:19:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.159]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103132045.MBMQ7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:20:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC52242.BAB3AC7D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 07:18:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20021103031355.49B1C7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I guess the Knoxville idea of what "obituary" means is different from > > mine. > > They call them Death Notices on purpose, I think. Then they should use that term for the link to them. They're what you get when you click on "obituaries." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 07:23:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3DN5Y7010265 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:23:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041F43B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 8:22:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:22:54 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3DMsV00646 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:22:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.159]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103132433.MDQA7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:24:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5232A.B672D179@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 07:22:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary References: <3DC47B35.321D0178@maynor.net> <005901c282f0$305da2c0$13e45fcf@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > Is there no family you can call and get the details? Nobody I would want to disturb by calling. I know her husband (her widower) and could no doubt find his phone number. She has an older sister I don't remember having met, but I would never be able to find her phone number. Her married name is something like Davis, and she lives in a city in the west -- I can't remember exactly where now, although the obituary named it. And then there are two sons. I don't know them either and wouldn't want to bother them even if I could track them down. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 07:25:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3DPkY7010275 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:25:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041F447@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 8:25:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:25:36 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3DPaV00762 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:25:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.159]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103132715.MEZI7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:27:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC523CB.BB0E68C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 07:25:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: <6b.14b455e.2af60698@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > No refrigerator? I hope he gets one that is frost-free; > I hate having to defrost the freezer. In a way a self-defrosting refrigerator is convenient, but in other ways I preferred my old refrigerator. The defrosting of the automatic one does odd things to the ice at times, and I also used defrosting times with the old one to do thorough cleaning of it. It's easier to clean a refrigerator you've just defrosted, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 07:27:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3DRLY7010281 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:27:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C53FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 8:27:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3106619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:27:11 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3DRBV00874 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:27:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.159]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103132850.MFRH7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:28:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5242A.2B4755D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 07:27:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Right. The online KNS prints a fwe obits - but only for very prominent > individuals (see Bud Seymour for October 25) - or possibly (I'm not > sure) for individuals whose families paid for extra-length obits - it is Yes. I think I mentioned this when I first mentioned my frustration at the lack of info. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 07:58:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3DwKY7010425 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:58:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041F4B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 8:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3107068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:58:10 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe36.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.93]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3DwAV02870 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:58:10 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 05:58:04 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <129.1a4859e1.2af6069b@aol.com> Subject: Re: Re: Phone weirdness Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:58:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 13:58:04.0985 (UTC) FILETIME=[07FBCA90:01C28341] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > That's common in business, the "we know better than you do" mentality. > I saw it at Sears when it upgraded a lot of Sears-Card holders to the > Sears Gold MasterCard without asking them first. People came in to > use their Sears Cards and couldn't; when we called Credit and asked > what was going on, we were told that they couldn't go back to their > Sears Cards and had to reapply if they just wanted the Sears Card. Do you mean to tell me that the Sears Card I'm carrying in my purse right now is not valid? Because they sent me one of those unsolicited Mastercards a few years ago and I cut it into pieces and threw it away. Did they actually cancel my Sears Card? That pisses me off. Not that I've bought anything at Sears in years (probably why I didn't know they'd cancelled my card), but that was my very first credit card. I got it in college and have always had a certain attachment to it. Guess it's time to cut it in pieces as well :-( -aht From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 08:27:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3ERDY7010640 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:27:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C552F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 9:27:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3107587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:27:01 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3ER1V04762 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:27:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.6c.25256df3 (4568) for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:26:52 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6c.25256df3.2af68c2b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:26:51 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Phone weirdness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/03/2002 7:58:12 AM Central Standard Time, toalanne@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Do you mean to tell me that the Sears Card I'm carrying in my purse right now is not valid? >> Call Credit Central at the number on the back of your card to see if the card is still valid. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 08:51:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3EphY7010787 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:51:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041F5A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 9:51:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3107990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:51:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XVXjntDlGdTTsBihJaqnJWVpDNnlhFtH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3EfVV06137 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:41:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2B72FE1B for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 166F47C0F; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:41:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 3, 2002 7:49:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:41:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103144130.166F47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> I guess the Knoxville idea of what "obituary" means is different from > >> mine. > > > >They call them Death Notices on purpose, I think. > > Right. The online KNS prints a fwe obits - but only for very prominent > individuals (see Bud Seymour for October 25) - or possibly (I'm not > sure) for individuals whose families paid for extra-length obits - it is > usual for newspapers to charge for longer obits. The Jackson paper charges $50. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 08:53:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3EroY7010805 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:53:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C55FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 9:53:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:53:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Wm4LFa1j2Bul5PF0k8gEN6bM+TrykQZs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3EhcV06281 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:43:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F26B2FDCB for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0E3F77C10; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:43:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended In-Reply-To: <3DC523CB.BB0E68C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 3, 2002 7:25:31 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 06:43:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103144338.0E3F77C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > The defrosting of the automatic one > does odd things to the ice at times, and I also used defrosting times > with the old one to do thorough cleaning of it. It's easier to clean a > refrigerator you've just defrosted, imho. I'd never go back to defrosting. Maybe you just need a new fridge. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 08:57:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3EvqY7010819 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:57:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041F613@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 9:57:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108537 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:57:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3EvfV07852 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:57:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC539DF.F576DD79@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:59:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: <6b.14b455e.2af60698@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > > No refrigerator? I hope he gets one that is frost-free; > I hate having to defrost the freezer. There's a refrigerator. Just forgot to mention it. I don't like my Sears Frost-Free because I never have ice cubes. They get defrosted away. What's with that? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 08:58:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3EwLY7010822 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:58:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C561A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 9:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108575 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:58:10 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3EwAV07958 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:58:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:58:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC539FD.F0911D27@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:00:13 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > Oh, Alyce, I hope you are feeling better soon! Thanks, alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 09:18:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3FHxY7010934 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:18:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041F6D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 10:17:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:17:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:VRgSsyxJ7tjlugBP7RWAAspTt8VI15Ux@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3F7mV08708 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:07:48 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDA42FE56 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5DB227C0D; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:07:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended In-Reply-To: <3DC539DF.F576DD79@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 3, 2002 9:59:43 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:07:47 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103150747.5DB227C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > There's a refrigerator. Just forgot to mention it. I don't like my Sears > Frost-Free because I never have ice cubes. They get defrosted away. > What's with that? They want you to buy an ice maker. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 09:18:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3FImY7010940 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:18:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041F6E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 10:18:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:18:37 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3FIbV09525 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:18:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:18:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC53EC8.F252B228@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:20:40 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: airport security Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, Ken flew safely to Montreal last night on Air Canada. They searched and questioned him for 20 minutes at LAX. Made him take off his boots, his belt, his glasses, his jacket, but not his underwear at least. He was wanded and patted down as well. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 09:21:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3FL7Y7010950 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:21:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C5722@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 10:20:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3108857 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:20:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GceAr6u8V95Hrd3YeoHJZgWmAYV1kvHx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3FAtV09003 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:10:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE172FE3C for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4EF267C12; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:10:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Signs In-Reply-To: <3DC3FFAF.AD01E226@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 2, 2002 11:39:11 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 07:10:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103151054.4EF267C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > I hope I feel better soon, too. It is very scary to be alone and not be > able to breathe well. I remember this feeling from when I had pneumonia. Do you have one of those buttons you can push, Alyce? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 09:30:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3FUCY7011030 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:30:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041F763@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 10:30:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:30:01 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3FU0V10579 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:30:00 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:29:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5416B.523A148@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:31:55 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Signs References: <20021103151054.4EF267C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I remember this feeling from when I had pneumonia. Do you have one of > those buttons you can push, Alyce? No. I am breathing a little better today, I think, but I feel spacey and not too chipper. I had coffee, went back to bed and watched Meet the Press, just stopped to read e-mail and let Spike out, then back to bed. IBM guy is coming later today to explain how to unzip the Word attachments that I need, and I hope Riley will come around 3:30. Cleaning lady comes in the morning. So I am apt to be found by someone before I decay, if I die. I want to think that Spike won't nibble me before the discovery. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 09:31:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3FVSY7011052 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:31:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041F76F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 10:31:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:31:16 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3FVGV10669 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:31:16 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id JAA22275 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:31:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E3A3D38699; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:31:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:31:15 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator Message-ID: <20021103153115.GA1663@pobox.com> References: <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC473AB.3AEC26C6@maynor.net> <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021103075657.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103075657.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:57:47AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > >A dog's true nature is never bad. Only the owner makes it so. > > That's very true, T Bone. If you've ever had a puppy and looked into > those innocent eyes, you would know they are born good. There is no > evil. "It's all good." Don't tell me. Tell K*R*N. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 09:59:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3FxOY7011181 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:59:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041F86E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 10:59:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:59:13 -0500 Received: from imf03bis.bellsouth.net (mail303.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.163]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3FxDV12419 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:59:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.40]) by imf03bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103155838.SWRS27186.imf03bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC54746.7596FE59@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:56:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20021103144130.166F47C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Right. The online KNS prints a fwe obits - but only for very prominent > > individuals (see Bud Seymour for October 25) - or possibly (I'm not > > sure) for individuals whose families paid for extra-length obits - it is > > usual for newspapers to charge for longer obits. > > The Jackson paper charges $50. Jackson, Mississippi? Not. It prints basic obituaries free and includes them in its online edition just as they appear in the newspaper. It charges only for extra info and pictures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 11:01:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3H1LY7011528 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:01:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C5B13@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 12:01:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3112484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:01:09 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3H19V19078 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:01:09 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:50:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5545F.6BD2DA48@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:52:47 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC473AB.3AEC26C6@maynor.net> <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021103075657.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021103153115.GA1663@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:57:47AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > >A dog's true nature is never bad. Only the owner makes it so. > > > > That's very true, T Bone. If you've ever had a puppy and looked into > > those innocent eyes, you would know they are born good. There is no > > evil. "It's all good." Once again, the current thread on the book list and here is exactly the same--how dogs are good, but the people who mistreat them or train them wrongly are bad. It is positively spooky how frequently I could be reading either list and not know which is which without reading the header. Lard and mayo the other day and now good v. evil in dogs. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 11:40:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3HecY7011743 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:40:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FC20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 12:40:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:40:26 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3HeQV21895 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:40:26 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021103174020.OCLG27144.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:40:20 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103091136.02a3c1b0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:40:07 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: airport security In-Reply-To: <3DC53EC8.F252B228@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap writes, >Well, Ken flew safely to Montreal last night on Air Canada. They >searched and questioned him for 20 minutes at LAX. Made him take off his >boots, his belt, his glasses, his jacket, but not his underwear at >least. He was wanded and patted down as well. Unfortunately, this sounds entirely routine except for the duration (though I've seen a number of 10 minute searches). Getting wanded, patted, and having to take off jackets and undo belts happens to everybody at most security checkpoints I've been through. Some people are unlucky enough to be picked by profile or at random for a thorough search before boarding the plane, where everything gets taken apart carefully and inspected. The random searches I most hate seeing are the moms with a 4- or 5-year old kid, where the kid dutifully hands over their little backpack of stuffed animals or coloring books to be searched. The kids are old enough to absorb the event, but aren't old enough to know this stupidity ain't normal. A friend posted this a couple months ago on her blog: "At Denver International Airport last week, an enthusiastic security guard trainee decided that she needed to manually verify my assertion that the metal-detector wand is triggered by brassiere underwires. After confirming this fact, I was allowed to pass through security and board the airplane, still wearing the suspicious bra. Airline security staff are clearly not being sufficiently vigilant against the threat of rows of zaftig passengers rising up to garrote the crew with their underwear." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 11:44:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3Hi1Y7011760 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:44:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C5C23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 12:43:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:43:49 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3HhmV22209 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:43:48 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50H5901.5CO for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:41:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC5601D.8736CDC9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:42:53 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <20021103011652.52D3D7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > John Williams said: > > Earlier today I was reading a 16th Century English recipe for > > plucking, cooking, *feeding*, and then eating a +living+ goose. > > Why? Why cook the goose or why read the recipe? The answer to the latter was it was included in the book I'm reading, and the answer to the former is that the author quoted said "It is mighty pleasant to behold." I don't care that it did date to 1660, its still disgusting. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 11:46:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3HkUY7011789 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:46:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FC51@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 12:46:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:46:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3HkHV22356 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:46:17 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50H9F03.2C6 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:44:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC560B3.C7A03709@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:45:23 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <20021103011822.4072B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie Maynor said: > I > > think I know why I feel that way about animals. We have perhaps even > > discussed this before. What's upsetting about animal abuse is that they > > don't understand what's happening or why. They're so trusting and > > innocent. And I feel this way about people, and for the same reaons. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:04:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3I4EY7011879 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:04:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FCE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:04:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:03:59 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3I3xV23650 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:03:59 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:03:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:05:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: 8-{ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Novelist-Racial-Profiling.html Novelist Mistry Cancels Book Tour By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Filed at 12:21 p.m. ET SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- One of Canada's most celebrated writers canceled a book tour after complaining of racial profiling at U.S. airports. Novelist Rohinton Mistry, a native of India living in Canada, canceled midway through his U.S. book tour, citing the ``unbearable'' humiliation of being searched at U.S. airports. Mistry canceled stops in Salt Lake City, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, Iowa City, Iowa, and Madison, Wis., according to a Saturday report in The Globe and Mail, one of Canada's two national daily papers. ``As a person of color he was stopped repeatedly and rudely at each airport along the way -- to the point where the humiliation to him and his wife (with whom he has been traveling) has become unbearable,'' said a statement from Mistry's publicist. Canada considers some U.S. anti-terrorism policies discriminatory. It has objected to U.S. border officials' taking photographs and fingerprints of Canadian citizens born in Middle Eastern and Muslim countries. Canada issued a travel advisory last month urging such citizens to avoid travel to the United States, but Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham said he has since received U.S. guarantees that all Canadians appearing with a passport at a U.S. border would be treated equally. Mistry is a winner of the Kiriyama Prize, honoring books that promote understanding of Pacific Rim nations, for ``Family Matters,'' a novel set in Bombay and featuring an ailing patriarch whose children debate over how to care for him. ``Family Matters,'' Mistry's fourth book, also was a finalist for the Booker Prize. -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:24:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IO5Y7011981 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:24:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C5D5E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:23:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114635 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:23:53 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3INqV25489 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:23:52 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50J0200.4CE for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:21:38 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC56981.C6E61CC8@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:22:57 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102192906.009ef7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021103000853.B16217C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021102212451.00a14030@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >In Comparative Anatomy labs, one hoped > >to draw as one's dissection assignment an alley cat or a feral cat; those > >cats who had led pampered, domesticated lives had too damned much fat to > >cut through and get rid of at every stage of the dissection. > >cwv I've been told by surgeons that they deal with the same problem with people. > Thank you for sharing your vivid impressions, Clyde. Do you guys have a House Rule against talking across the room? 8-) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:36:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IaRY7012051 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:36:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FDFF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:36:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:36:15 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IaFV26602 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:36:15 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50JKO01.CCY for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:34:00 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:35:20 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 8-{ References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Novelist Rohinton Mistry, a native of India living in Canada, canceled > midway through his U.S. book tour, citing the ``unbearable'' humiliation > of > being searched at U.S. airports. Join the club, pal. > Mistry canceled stops in Salt Lake City, Chicago, San Francisco, Boston, > Iowa City, Iowa, and Madison, Wis., according to a Saturday report in > The > Globe and Mail, one of Canada's two national daily papers. Yea, well, we have USA Today, which keeps the Pulitzer committee up nights. > ``As a person of color he was stopped repeatedly and rudely at each > airport > along the way -- to the point where the humiliation to him and his wife > (with whom he has been traveling) has become unbearable,'' said a > statement > from Mistry's publicist. I notice that the article does not mention which airports he was "repeatedly and rudely" stopped at. And how far along in the tour was he, exactly? One stop? Two? Or any? That's some weird intinerary, at any event. Who's his travel agent? And, "each" airport? Which ones? Did he even leave home? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:37:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IbiY7012059 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:37:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041FE06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:37:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:37:32 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IbVV26675 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:37:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103183911.TMHJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:39:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:37:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Roots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Do you plant roots? Aren't they something that sprout out of seeds after they're in the dirt? But wait -- there are root balls, and they get planted. But I guess they sprouted from seeds planted in the dirt ball, didn't they. Iow, does it work to say "where X and Y met and where our Mississippi roots were planted"? Planting won't work because it would turn into a , which I don't really want here. So would a root ball. Roots are also sexual, of course, but in this context I think "roots" is ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:46:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IkmY7012122 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:46:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041FE4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:46:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:46:36 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IkaV27297 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:46:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103184815.TSDE3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:48:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC56F07.1FF072@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:46:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Instead of Roots Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Would it be better to say "where x and y met and our Mississippi heritage began" instead of mentioning root-planting? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:47:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IlKY7012128 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:47:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FE52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:47:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115256 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:47:08 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3Il8V27355 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:47:08 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:47:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC56FA2.58BAC2A6@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:49:06 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 8-{ References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > That's some weird intinerary, at any > event. John, you surely know that authors pushing books go wherever they can get TV or radio time or a booksigning at a store. This can indeed make you scurry all over the country in a weird way. Sort of like GWB these last three weeks--five states a day, every which way. He began in the east, in New York, Boston, and Philadelphia, I can tell you that. I don't know where else before he gave it up. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:48:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3ImWY7012136 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:48:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FE5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:48:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:48:19 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3ImJV27407 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:48:19 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:48:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:50:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Do you plant roots? Aren't they something that sprout out of seeds > after they're in the dirt? But wait -- there are root balls, and they > get planted. But I guess they sprouted from seeds planted in the dirt > ball, didn't they. > > Iow, does it work to say "where X and Y met and where our Mississippi > roots were planted"? Planting won't work because it would turn > into a , which I don't really want here. So would a root > ball. Roots are also sexual, of course, but in this context I think > "roots" is ok. In what context? What does this post refer to? Are you drinking so early in the day? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:52:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IqmY7012184 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:52:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041FE7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:52:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115401 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:52:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IqZV27815 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:52:35 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50KBX00.4CG for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:50:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC5703B.E0A9EAAA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:51:40 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 8-{ References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC56FA2.58BAC2A6@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > That's some weird intinerary, at any > > event. > > John, you surely know that authors pushing books go wherever they can > get TV or radio time or a booksigning at a store. This can indeed make > you scurry all over the country in a weird way. "No, REALLY???" Yes, I do. None of which answers any of my questions. > Sort of like GWB these > last three weeks--five states a day, every which way. He began in the > east, in New York, Boston, and Philadelphia, I can tell you that. I > don't know where else before he gave it up. You haven't been tracking Bill or Al's latests movements, I assume? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:53:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IrbY7012191 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:53:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C5E2D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:53:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:53:25 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IrOV27866 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:53:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103185504.TWIY3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC570A0.560FEC79@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:53:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > In what context? What does this post refer to? Are you drinking so early > in the day? I've zapped the metaphor and am being a literalist now: "cultural heritage began." Do counties everywhere put out books from time to time that are compilations of family histories? I've used some of the Alabama and North Carolina ones in doing genealogical. I've also submitted to one in Alabama. This time I'm doing a very short blurb for one in Smith County, MS. I just saw the solicitation message and decided to do this tiny, dry write-up because I thought the Maynors and Swittenbergs should be represented. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:54:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IsUY7012196 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:54:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041FE8B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:54:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115457 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:54:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IsIV27987 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:54:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50KER00.5CN for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 11:52:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC570A2.7154B801@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:53:23 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > In what context? What does this post refer to? Are you drinking so early > in the day? Odd. That's almost exactly what I was going to ask you. 8-/ JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:55:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3ItGY7012200 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:55:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041FE92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:55:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:03 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3It3V28060 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103185643.TXHJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:56:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57103.9D0B9250@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:54:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I guess my reply really didn't give the context of roots etc. Here's the boring thing I just wrote. The rooty stuff is at the end. Maynor-Swittenberg In the late 1850s Marshall Wilborn Maynor, born in Georgia in 1838 to William H. and Elizabeth (Cox) Maynor, moved from Russell County, Alabama, to Smith County, Mississippi, where he met Susannah Jane Swittenberg ("the sweetest woman who ever lived," according to her grandson, Robert Clayton Maynor). It was also during the 1850s that Susannah had moved to Smith County, from Newberry County, South Carolina, with her father, William Swittenberg, her step-mother, Emiline (Swindler) Swittenberg, and three siblings: Christiana Elizabeth, John Calvin, and Albion Melanchton, children born to William and his first wife, Harriet (Summer) Swittenberg, who had died in 1848. Two children were born to William and Emiline after their move to Mississippi: Mary E.M. and William F. After Emiline's death, William married for a third time, this time Martha Gallagher, beside whom he is buried in the Mount Zion Lutheran Cemetery in Trenton. Marshall Maynor and Susannah Swittenberg were married in Smith County on November 17, 1859. By 1860 they owned a small farm, close to the Swittenberg property. They managed to keep the farm during the time Marshall was serving in the Civil War (Mississippi 46th Infantry, Company G). By 1870 the farm had increased in value, and Marshall and Susannah had four children: William J., John M., Anna Bell, and Mary Elizabeth (Molly). Two more children were born before the family left Smith County in the mid 1870s: Henry Marshall and Charles Augustus. The last four of Marshall and Susannah's ten children were born later: Robert Franklin, James G., Relda, and May. By 1880 the family had settled in Hinds County, where both Marshall and Susannah died, he in 1919, she in 1927. They are buried in Cedar Lawn Cemetery in Jackson. Although it was more than 120 years ago that the Maynor family left the county, at least some of Marshall and Susannah's descendants feel a special bond to Smith County, where Marshall Maynor and Susannah Jane Swittenberg met and our Mississippi heritage began. Submitted by Natalie Maynor, Starkville, Mississippi. Word count: 331. Sources: U.S. census records; family Bible; The Summer Book (by Luther Wightman Hampton, Jr., Dutch Fork Genealogy Society, 1994); Tennessee: The Volunteer State, Vol. 4 (S.J. Clarke Publishing Company, 1923); personal knowledge. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:55:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3ItuY7012206 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:55:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FE99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:55:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:43 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IthV28164 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:43 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021103185538.NTWV8743.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:55:38 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103104522.033a0bc0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:55:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Roots In-Reply-To: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >Iow, does it work to say "where X and Y met and where our Mississippi >roots were planted"? Not really. The speaker is implying this meaning: "1 a : to put or set in the ground for growth b : to set or sow with seeds or plants c : IMPLANT" -- but for that you need seeds which grow into roots. Roots can be firmly placed, like feet: "2 a : ESTABLISH, INSTITUTE b : COLONIZE, SETTLE c : to place (animals) in a new locality d : to stock with animals / 3 a : to place in or on the ground b : to place firmly or forcibly ", but to do that with roots wouldn't imply origination there. It would be better to say something like, "where our Mississippi heritage is rooted." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:56:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IuQY7012210 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:56:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FE9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:56:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:56:13 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IuDV28205 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:56:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103185753.TXZH3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:57:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57149.ED6FF631@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:56:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> <3DC570A2.7154B801@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Are you drinking so early > > in the day? > > Odd. That's almost exactly what I was going to ask you. 8-/ Just eating miniature hershey bars. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:57:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3Iv5Y7012218 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:57:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FE9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:56:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:56:53 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IurV28236 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:56:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103185832.TYIF3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:58:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57170.D33CB6E1@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:56:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> <3DC570A0.560FEC79@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I've zapped the metaphor and am being a literalist now: "cultural > heritage began." Not "cultural." I didn't use that word. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:57:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IvOY7012221 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:57:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FE9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:57:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IvCV28299 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:57:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC571FE.F6925B8E@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:59:10 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 8-{ References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC56FA2.58BAC2A6@valstar.net> <3DC5703B.E0A9EAAA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > You haven't been tracking Bill or Al's latests movements, I assume? Give me a break. Of course. There is no law that you have to fly in a straight line. People are not crows. You seem to be critical of this author because he didn't take a straight route across the country. What is that about? Do you doubt that he encountered rudeness? I don't. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 12:59:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3IxiY7012244 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:59:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FEB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 13:59:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:59:31 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3IxVV28421 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:59:31 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:59:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57289.D2A93432@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:01:29 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> <3DC570A0.560FEC79@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Do counties everywhere put out books from time to time that are > compilations of family histories? There are plenty of them around. I imagine it depends on the residents and how much money is available for such projects. There were lots of them in the 19th century, I know that. One was done for this county by interested citizens (not by the county government) in the '40s. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:01:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3J1OY7012279 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:01:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FEBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:01:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:01:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3J1BV28571 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:01:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:01:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC572EE.B7777692@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:03:10 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> <3DC57103.9D0B9250@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I guess my reply really didn't give the context of roots etc. No. You didn't. Thanks for the clarification. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:02:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3J20Y7012287 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:02:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041FEC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:01:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:01:48 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3J1mV28603 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:01:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103190327.UARL3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:03:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57297.4961282@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:01:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103104522.033a0bc0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > It would be better to say something like, "where our Mississippi heritage > is rooted." Hey -- I thought of that very clause! I might say that ("is rooted") instead of "began." But maybe I'll just leave it as it is now. It's kind of funny that I never mull over word choices in . I just dump the words onto the page and zip them away. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:03:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3J3dY7012303 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:03:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C5EA8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:03:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:03:26 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3J3QV28733 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:03:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103190506.UBNB3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC572FA.2091ED9D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:03:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103104522.033a0bc0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > It would be better to say something like, "where our Mississippi heritage > is rooted." Actually, I'm not sure that "is rooted" works either, now that I think about it. Maybe the taproot is there, but the roots have spread a good distance from that county. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:05:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3J5rY7012317 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:05:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FEE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:05:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:41 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3J5fV28864 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103190720.UCTU3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57380.E6A908AF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:05:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> <3DC570A0.560FEC79@maynor.net> <3DC57289.D2A93432@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > them in the 19th century, I know that. One was done for this county by > interested citizens (not by the county government) in the '40s. I don't think county governments are involved, at least not in the ones I know anything about. I think they're done by "interested citizens," usually in the form of the local genealogy club. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:06:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3J65Y7012321 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:06:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FEE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:05:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:52 -0500 Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay1.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3J5qV28877 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:52 -0500 Received: from M2W091.mail2web.com ([168.144.108.91]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:51 -0500 Message-ID: <39020-22002110319551610@M2W091.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: bonniev@panax.com X-Originating-IP: 142.167.18.12 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "bonniev@panax.com" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Gladiator Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 19:05:51.0744 (UTC) FILETIME=[07079800:01C2836C] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gA3J5qV28881 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Thank you for sharing your vivid impressions, Clyde. >Do you guys have a House Rule against talking across the room? 8-) >JMW It's actually down the hall. But more importantly I'm never nasty to Clyde in person. In my wordsler persona I can be sarcastic. You guys would never believe what I'm doing at the moment. I hardly believe it myself. I walked down to the Bar Harbor Internet Cafe to keep the owner, my friend April, company as she sits in the under-heated space running things. We were going to play Scrabble. Well, instead of setting up a board, we are sitting face to face at two different terminals and playing Internet Scrabble at the pixie pit. In between turns, I'm checking my email. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:12:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3JCpY7012353 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:12:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FF49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:12:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:12:38 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3JCcV29900 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:12:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103191418.UGTL3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57522.53E0BD8B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:12:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> <3DC570A0.560FEC79@maynor.net> <3DC57289.D2A93432@valstar.net> <3DC57380.E6A908AF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Actually, other branches of my family tree go back farther than that in Mississippi. But I guess it still makes since to say that the Mississippi heritage of the descendants of Marshall and Susannah began there since if they hadn't met, we wouldn't be we, would we. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:13:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3JDVY7012358 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:13:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FF50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:13:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:13:18 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3JDIV29961 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:13:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103191457.UHEE3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57549.DAF1658D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:13:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <39020-22002110319551610@M2W091.mail2web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "bonniev@panax.com" wrote: > up a board, we are sitting face to face at two different terminals and > playing Internet Scrabble at the pixie pit. I think that's neat. Are you cheating? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:14:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3JEFY7012364 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:14:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0041FF53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:14:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:02 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3JE2V30013 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.212]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103191541.UHMK3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:15:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC57576.9F1630F7@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:13:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> <3DC56FE9.C9D3E610@valstar.net> <3DC570A0.560FEC79@maynor.net> <3DC57289.D2A93432@valstar.net> <3DC57380.E6A908AF@maynor.net> <3DC57522.53E0BD8B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Actually, other branches of my family tree go back farther than that in > Mississippi. But I guess it still makes since to say that the Where's Karen? Betcha she's gonna latch onto that since. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:21:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3JLEY7012415 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:21:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0041FF87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:21:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:21:01 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3JL1V30856 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:21:01 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021103192055.OPQV16414.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:20:55 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103111648.033c3020@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 11:19:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: The Duel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Word fun: an exchange of missives in faux 18th century style between GWB and Saddam, about The Duel. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:27:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3JRUY7012443 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:27:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FFB1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:27:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:27:18 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3JRHV31277 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:27:17 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gA3JRG922239 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:27:16 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 09:28:13 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Quandary Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DC4EC2D.11882.174E5A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC5232A.B672D179@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 3 Nov 2002 at 7:22, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Nobody I would want to disturb by calling. I know her husband (her > widower) and could no doubt find his phone number. You're strange, Natalie. The guy might actually appreciate a few words of condolence, and far from being disturbed, he might actually appreciate the opportunity to talk about her for a few minutes to a sympathetic friend. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 13:32:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3JW4Y7012516 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:32:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0041FFCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 14:31:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116863 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:31:51 -0500 Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay1.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3JVpV31579 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:31:51 -0500 Received: from M2W026.mail2web.com ([168.144.108.26]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: <269620-220021103193150639@M2W026.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: bonniev@panax.com X-Originating-IP: 142.167.18.12 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "bonniev@panax.com" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Gladiator Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:31:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 19:31:50.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8455600:01C2836F] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gA3JVpV31580 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> up a board, we are sitting face to face at two different terminals and >> playing Internet Scrabble at the pixie pit. >I think that's neat. Are you cheating? > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, I am cheating. I'm cheating more than she is because I know about The Scrabble Rack web page and she doesn't. Ssssh. Don't tell her. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:04:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3K42Y7012698 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:04:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004200E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:03:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:03:49 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3K3mV01705 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:03:48 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50NMM02.LD5 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:01:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC580E7.2948303F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:02:48 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 8-{ References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC56FA2.58BAC2A6@valstar.net> <3DC5703B.E0A9EAAA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC571FE.F6925B8E@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Give me a break. Of course. There is no law that you have to fly in a > straight line. People are not crows. You seem to be critical of this > author because he didn't take a straight route across the country. What > is that about? Do you doubt that he encountered rudeness? I don't. alyce, alyce, alyce. *I've* encountered at security checks. Damn near everyone does. Read what I said again. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:04:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3K4IY7012701 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:04:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004200E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:04:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:04:05 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3K45V01800 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:04:05 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5000DLYNQSH9@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:04:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:05:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Roots To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC58181.6080103@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103104522.033a0bc0@mail.istori.com> <3DC572FA.2091ED9D@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >>It would be better to say something like, "where our Mississippi heritage >>is rooted." >> > > Actually, I'm not sure that "is rooted" works either, now that I think > about it. Maybe the taproot is there, but the roots have spread a good > distance from that county. Probably sounds funny cuz it's passive construction. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:05:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3K5rY7012708 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:05:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004200F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:05:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:05:40 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3K5eV01955 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:05:40 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H50NPP01.JCU for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:03:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC5815E.B899D236@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:04:46 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 8-{ References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC56FA2.58BAC2A6@valstar.net> <3DC5703B.E0A9EAAA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC571FE.F6925B8E@valstar.net> <3DC580E7.2948303F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > *I've* encountered at security checks. ^ rudeness. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:14:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KEIY7012737 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042015E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:14:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:14:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JQLGcQyFDE854HUlAdcz8k1psr/1+mz3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3K43V01757 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:04:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509802FE36 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 147C37C0F; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:04:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Signs In-Reply-To: <3DC5416B.523A148@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 3, 2002 10:31:55 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:04:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103200403.147C37C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > IBM guy is coming later today to explain how to unzip the Word > attachments that I need, and I hope Riley will come around 3:30. > Cleaning lady comes in the morning. So I am apt to be found by someone > before I decay, if I die. I want to think that Spike won't nibble me > before the discovery. Well, being found is better than nothing. But be careful, Alyce. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:16:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KG5Y7012769 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:16:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042016C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:15:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:15:52 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:KLOUEiT6Qaz1KvN/RGJjs2XjCEURAM4X@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3K5qV01973 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:05:52 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E072FE36 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 390357C09; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:05:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC54746.7596FE59@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 3, 2002 9:56:54 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:05:51 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103200551.390357C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Right. The online KNS prints a fwe obits - but only for very prominent > > > individuals (see Bud Seymour for October 25) - or possibly (I'm not > > > sure) for individuals whose families paid for extra-length obits - it is > > > usual for newspapers to charge for longer obits. > > > > The Jackson paper charges $50. > > Jackson, Mississippi? Not. Yes, it charges $50 for longer obits. > It prints basic obituaries free and > includes them in its online edition just as they appear in the > newspaper. It charges only for extra info and pictures. We don't disagree. They charge $50 for anything beyond a death notice--if you want to list survivors, etc. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:18:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KI3Y7012779 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:18:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042017A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:17:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3118296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:17:50 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KHoV02904 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:17:50 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021103201744.QFAW16414.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:17:44 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103120858.033c4bd0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 12:17:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: 8-{ In-Reply-To: <3DC580E7.2948303F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC56FA2.58BAC2A6@valstar.net> <3DC5703B.E0A9EAAA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC571FE.F6925B8E@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams writes, >*I've* encountered [rudeness] at security checks. Damn near everyone does. I think I haven't, but the inspections are so invasive that it's really hard not to read personal affront and rudeness into them. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:28:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KSwY7012817 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:28:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042020B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3118306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:28:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:I1U5cRt1LO38DRLAp6cS2b7ycGZJM1hk@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KIiV02935 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:18:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8D12FE10 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3A5B57C0A; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:18:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Roots In-Reply-To: <3DC56CE7.5D341670@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 3, 2002 12:37:27 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:18:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103201844.3A5B57C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Do you plant roots? Aren't they something that sprout out of seeds > after they're in the dirt? But wait -- there are root balls, and they > get planted. But you break up root balls when you plant them--at least, here, I've been advised to do that because of the impenetrable clay we have. > Iow, does it work to say "where X and Y met and where our Mississippi > roots were planted"? I'd make it active--where X and Y met and planted roots in MS. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:31:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KVBY7012863 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:31:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00420227@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:30:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3118752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:30:58 -0500 Received: from relay3.softcomca.com (relay3.softcomca.com [168.144.1.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KUwV04036 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:30:58 -0500 Received: from M2W079.mail2web.com ([168.144.108.79]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:30:57 -0500 Message-ID: <168270-220021103203057796@M2W079.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: bonniev@panax.com X-Originating-IP: 142.167.18.12 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "bonniev@panax.com" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: 8-{ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:30:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 20:30:58.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[EAA2F450:01C28377] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gA3KUwV04037 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I think I haven't, but the inspections are so invasive >that it's really hard not to read personal affront and >rudeness into them. --Pete I've never encountered rudeness. Nor do I take it as a personal affront to be wanded or have my bag gone through. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:46:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KkVY7012952 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:46:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C62EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:46:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119026 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:46:18 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KkIV05047 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:46:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.39]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103204757.YRYL282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:47:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC58B16.1F50ACC4@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:46:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary References: <3DC4EC2D.11882.174E5A@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > You're strange, Natalie. The guy might actually appreciate a few > words of condolence, and far from being disturbed, he might actually > appreciate the opportunity to talk about her for a few minutes to a > sympathetic friend. With the burial just yesterday, I'd say that he probably wants solitude and down time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:47:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3Kl3Y7012955 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:47:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004202B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:46:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:46:50 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KkoV05102 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:46:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.39]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103204829.YSHB282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:48:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC58B35.E5EEC5C0@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:46:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <269620-220021103193150639@M2W026.mail2web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "bonniev@panax.com" wrote: > Yes, I am cheating. I'm cheating more than she is because I know about The > Scrabble Rack web page and she doesn't. Ssssh. Don't tell her. You could also do quick e-mailings to us of your letters and what's on the board, and we could give suggestions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:47:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KlXY7012959 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:47:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004202BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:47:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:47:16 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KlGV05166 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:47:16 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA3KlFR21632 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:47:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001801c2837a$735208c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC56585.9AEE7E9C@valstar.net> <3DC56C67.F345F97@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC56FA2.58BAC2A6@valstar.net> <3DC5703B.E0A9EAAA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC571FE.F6925B8E@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021103120858.033c4bd0@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: 8-{ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:49:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > John Williams writes, > > >*I've* encountered [rudeness] at security checks. Damn near everyone does. > > I think I haven't, but the inspections are so invasive that it's really > hard not to read personal affront and rudeness into them. > > Pete I've had my feet and shoes inspected, been run down by hands, emptied my purse and a carry-on for all to see, etc. and I have never felt it an affront. I have been affronted by the fact that the person in front of or behind me walked on through when he was just as likely to be questionable. So the system is far from being effective. When my life is a stake I'd love for them to find a way to really assure me that I will be safe on that plane. It will probably never be possible, but I appreciate any effort made, however slow it is to develop. Furthermore, I must comment that a person's color is probably not the most likely reason for rudeness to him. I have seen so many examples of behavior that must really test the patience of people in security. For example, a supercilious attitude and reluctance to comply, etc. Particularly if the employee is female and the passenger is not accustomed to dealing with females. I am just dropping a thought, not starting an argument. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:48:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KmJY7012968 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:48:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004202C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:48:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:48:06 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3Km5V05232 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:48:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.39]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103204945.YSWH282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC58B81.E26E5C73@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:48:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103104522.033a0bc0@mail.istori.com> <3DC572FA.2091ED9D@maynor.net> <3DC58181.6080103@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Actually, I'm not sure that "is rooted" works either, now that I think > > about it. Maybe the taproot is there, but the roots have spread a good > > distance from that county. > > Probably sounds funny cuz it's passive construction. No, I think it's the presentness of the is. Somehow it seems odd to think of a root stuck there in soil which hasn't been trod upon by the descendants in years. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:51:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3Kp5Y7012980 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:51:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004202D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:50:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:50:51 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KopV05426 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:50:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:50:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC58C9E.3D6FD1D6@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 15:52:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: 8-{ References: <168270-220021103203057796@M2W079.mail2web.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "bonniev@panax.com" wrote: > > >I think I haven't, but the inspections are so invasive > >that it's really hard not to read personal affront and > >rudeness into them. --Pete > > I've never encountered rudeness. Nor do I take it as a personal affront to > be wanded or have my bag gone through. > It may be that this Indian gentleman and his wife were treated differently? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:53:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KrfY7012994 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:53:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004202F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:53:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:53:27 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3KrRV05717 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:53:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.39]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103205507.YVVL282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:55:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC58CC3.C3138EA0@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:53:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20021103200551.390357C09@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > Right. The online KNS prints a fwe obits - but only for very prominent > > > > individuals (see Bud Seymour for October 25) - or possibly (I'm not > > > > sure) for individuals whose families paid for extra-length obits - it is > > > > usual for newspapers to charge for longer obits. > > > > > > The Jackson paper charges $50. > > > > Jackson, Mississippi? Not. > > Yes, it charges $50 for longer obits. The point above was about what's online -- in Knoxville, only a few are -- presumably the ones of prominent people or those paid for. That is not true in Jackson. All the obits are online. And all of them are real obits, not just listings. You pay more if you want pictures and longer obits. The $50 is an estimate for x number of words/pictures longer than is considered the normal obit. > > It prints basic obituaries free and > > includes them in its online edition just as they appear in the > > newspaper. It charges only for extra info and pictures. > > We don't disagree. They charge $50 for anything beyond a death > notice--if you want to list survivors, etc. Yes indeed, we do disagree. Look again at the Knoxville paper and see what you see -- a list of names and ages. Look at the Jackson paper and see what you see -- real obituaries. It says that the free, basic obituaries include enough info to identify the dead person clearly. In most cases that means the immediate survivers -- as in names of spouse and children or parents if they're living. Usually the basic ones also will say and x number of grandchildren. If you want to list all the names of grandchildren and nieces and nephews and such, you pay extra. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 14:54:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3KsJY7013003 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:54:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6354@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 15:54:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:54:05 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3Ks5V05757 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:54:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.39]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103205544.YWCX282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:55:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC58CE9.CF624994@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 14:54:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Roots References: <20021103201844.3A5B57C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > But you break up root balls when you plant them--at least, here, I've > been advised to do that because of the impenetrable clay we have. I don't break up root balls when I plant them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 15:01:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3L1DY7013053 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:01:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00420352@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 16:00:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:00:59 -0500 Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay1.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3L0xV06541 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:00:59 -0500 Received: from M2W079.mail2web.com ([168.144.108.79]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <129780-22002110321058986@M2W079.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: bonniev@panax.com X-Originating-IP: 142.167.18.12 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "bonniev@panax.com" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Gladiator Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:00:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 21:00:59.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C290970:01C2837C] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gA3L0xV06542 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>Yes, I am cheating. I'm cheating more than she is because I know about >>The Scrabble Rack web page and she doesn't. Ssssh. Don't tell her. >You could also do quick e-mailings to us of your letters and what's on >the board, and we could give suggestions. >-- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Thanks for the offer. But I'm winning right now. Just barely. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 15:17:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3LHKY7013139 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:17:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6470@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 16:17:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:17:07 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3L77V07445 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:07:07 -0500 Received: from waldorf.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.38] helo=waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188RxZ-0004mC-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:07:05 -0800 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) id gA3L74c00259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:07:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:07:04 -0800 From: To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Reply-To: dutchessg@earthlink.net Subject: I'm back! Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 63.186.33.33 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Your "favorite" Dutch person is back again! AOL seemed to have screwed up my 'puter, and caused me much grief. But now I'm back in business; hopefully you missed me all :-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 15:21:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3LLUY7013154 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:21:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00420418@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 16:21:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:21:16 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3LLGV08572 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:21:16 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:21:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC593BC.C3FFF35E@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:23:08 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: I'm back! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo Groothof wrote: > > Your "favorite" Dutch person is back again! > AOL seemed to have screwed up my 'puter, > and caused me much grief. But now I'm back in business; hopefully you missed > me all :-) Yes, you were missed. I was worried that you were back in hospital. Belated happy birthday. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 15:27:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3LRrY7013188 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:27:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C64E0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 16:27:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:27:39 -0500 Received: from conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net (conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3LRcV09242 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:27:38 -0500 Received: from waldorf.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.38] helo=waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net) by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188SHR-0005vl-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:27:37 -0800 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) id gA3LRbC02187 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:27:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 13:27:37 -0800 From: To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-To: dutchessg@earthlink.net Subject: Re: I'm back! Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 63.186.33.33 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:23:08 -0500 alyce cresap wrote: >> > > Yes, you were missed. I was worried that you > were back in hospital. > Belated happy birthday. > > alyce Thanks, Ally. I've been behaving myself, no hospital this time :-) Happy to be back though. Missed you all. Still have to get used to this new system though. I was on this server before, but many, many moons ago.... > Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 15:28:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3LSIY7013193 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:28:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00420457@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 16:28:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3120703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:28:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3LS5V09295 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:28:05 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C64ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 16:28:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200211032128.gA3LS5V09295@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:28:04 -0500 From: mem@LAVA.NET Subject: Re: Quandary To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:46:14 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >With the burial just yesterday, I'd say that he probably wants solitude >and down time. I think it's a great myth that people who've suffered such losses want solitude. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 15:55:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3LtoY7013345 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:55:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00420529@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 16:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3121446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:55:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3LtaV11412 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:55:36 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-116.panax.com [63.163.41.116]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3LtVt22287 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:55:31 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103165444.00a036c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:55:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: 8-{ In-Reply-To: <3DC58C9E.3D6FD1D6@valstar.net> References: <168270-220021103203057796@M2W079.mail2web.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I've never encountered rudeness. Nor do I take it as a personal affront to > > be wanded or have my bag gone through. > > >It may be that this Indian gentleman and his wife were treated >differently? --alyce As Doris said, it might also be that they were quick to take offense and see prejudice. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 16:05:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3M5uY7013418 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:05:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C674B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 17:05:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3121453 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:05:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rQ8PFHWxUUd3sB3YVz1rJ+VdY1QoOlSS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3LtgV11423 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:55:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA922FDCA for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9D79E7C0F; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 8-{ In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103120858.033c4bd0@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 3, 2002 12:17:30 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:55:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103215541.9D79E7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > John Williams writes, > >*I've* encountered [rudeness] at security checks. Damn near everyone does. > > I think I haven't, but the inspections are so invasive that it's really > hard not to read personal affront and rudeness into them. I've had reasonable security shecks and rude ones; there's a definite difference. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 16:08:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3M8AY7013438 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:08:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004205DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 17:07:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3121593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:07:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JVoEy89DTnWPB8cgTVbrYOEq24hT2u4j@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3LvuV11681 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:57:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F202FDEC for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E0F37C0F; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC58CC3.C3138EA0@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 3, 2002 2:53:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 13:57:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103215755.4E0F37C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > > > Right. The online KNS prints a fwe obits - but only for very prominent > > > > > individuals (see Bud Seymour for October 25) - or possibly (I'm not > > > > > sure) for individuals whose families paid for extra-length obits - it is > > > > > usual for newspapers to charge for longer obits. > > > > > > > > The Jackson paper charges $50. > > > > > > Jackson, Mississippi? Not. > > > > Yes, it charges $50 for longer obits. > > The point above was about what's online -- in Knoxville, only a few are > -- presumably the ones of prominent people or those paid for. That is > not true in Jackson. All the obits are online. And all of them are > real obits, not just listings. You pay more if you want pictures and > longer obits. The $50 is an estimate for x number of words/pictures > longer than is considered the normal obit. > > > > It prints basic obituaries free and > > > includes them in its online edition just as they appear in the > > > newspaper. It charges only for extra info and pictures. > > > > We don't disagree. They charge $50 for anything beyond a death > > notice--if you want to list survivors, etc. > > Yes indeed, we do disagree. Look again at the Knoxville paper and see > what you see -- a list of names and ages. Look at the Jackson paper and > see what you see -- real obituaries. It says that the free, basic > obituaries include enough info to identify the dead person clearly. In > most cases that means the immediate survivers -- as in names of spouse > and children or parents if they're living. Usually the basic ones also > will say and x number of grandchildren. If you want to list all the > names of grandchildren and nieces and nephews and such, you pay extra. I'm sure you're right, Natalie. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 16:12:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3MCsY7013467 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:12:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6774@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 17:12:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:12:40 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3MCeV13425 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:12:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.48]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021103221419.UMBJ3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:14:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC59F54.CD3EA4D9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 16:12:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20021103215755.4E0F37C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I'm sure you're right, Natalie. I should hope so. It's a newspaper I know quite well, read obituaries in almost every day, and have contributed obituary information to. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 16:13:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3MDHY7013472 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:13:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00420616@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 17:13:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:13:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:puMIgkOsVp0ROdZSQ3Cb88201fqEwaHB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3M33V12479 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:03:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86302FE27 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6046B7C07; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:03:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <3DC5601D.8736CDC9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 3, 2002 10:42:53 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:03:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103220302.6046B7C07@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > John Williams said: > > > Earlier today I was reading a 16th Century English recipe for > > > plucking, cooking, *feeding*, and then eating a +living+ goose. > > > > Why? > > Why cook the goose or why read the recipe? The answer to the latter > was it was included in the book I'm reading, and the answer to the > former is that the author quoted said "It is mighty pleasant to > behold." I don't care that it did date to 1660, its still disgusting. What's the advantage of eating a goose cooked this way? How do you cook a living goose enough to eat it and still have it alive? What book are you reading? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 16:19:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3MJvY7013525 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:19:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042065B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 17:19:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122948 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:19:43 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3MJhV14030 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:19:43 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust134.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.136]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:19:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5A16D.5FC0BB7B@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 17:21:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary References: <200211032128.gA3LS5V09295@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU mem@LAVA.NET wrote: > > I think it's a great myth that people who've suffered such losses want > solitude. Yes. In my experience and observing the experiences of others (mostly widows), there is a huge lot of support up to the day of the funeral, and then everyone goes away, back to their own lives, and you are left totally alone in the world. I think that making contact with the bereaved a few days after the event would be welcome and helpful. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 16:24:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3MOWY7013543 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 16:24:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00420681@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 17:24:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:24:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:S7bCetp9bnr+RfE58PbSZktD21bKWQz2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3MEHV13559 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:14:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EC42FDFF for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F40DF7C0D; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC59F54.CD3EA4D9@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 3, 2002 4:12:36 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 14:14:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021103221416.F40DF7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I'm sure you're right, Natalie. > > I should hope so. It's a newspaper I know quite well, read obituaries > in almost every day, and have contributed obituary information to. Uh-huh. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 17:06:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3N6pY7013786 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:06:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042091A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 18:06:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3125375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:06:37 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.94]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3N6bV18130 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:06:37 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:06:31 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 23:06:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Signs Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 23:06:31 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 23:06:31.0835 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5FE9EB0:01C2838D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: alyce cresap >And this brings me to an apology to Rashmi. I have been mostly in bed >for a week now, and have not forgotten. WHen I can breathe, it will >come. There's no rush. Take your time. Hope you feel better soon. Take care, -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 17:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3N95Y7013800 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042092E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 18:08:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3125436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:08:51 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f175.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3N8oV18278 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:08:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:08:45 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 23:08:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: weekend movie Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 23:08:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 23:08:45.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5C4D4A0:01C2838D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anyone else see -Roger Dodger-? Annoying camera-work but enjoyable film otherwise. In the indie mold. Good acting by Campbell Scott. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 17:43:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3NhUY7014018 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:43:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6C12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 18:43:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126474 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:43:15 -0500 Received: from cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com [207.46.181.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3NhFV21306 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:43:15 -0500 Received: from computer ([207.95.228.240]) by cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:41:45 -0800 Message-ID: <006501c28392$c1316960$f0e45fcf@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC4EC2D.11882.174E5A@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: Quandary Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:42:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2002 23:41:46.0067 (UTC) FILETIME=[922CD230:01C28392] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael E. Macmillan" To: Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Quandary > On 3 Nov 2002 at 7:22, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Nobody I would want to disturb by calling. I know her husband (her > > widower) and could no doubt find his phone number. > > You're strange, Natalie. The guy might actually appreciate a few > words of condolence, and far from being disturbed, he might actually > appreciate the opportunity to talk about her for a few minutes to a > sympathetic friend. > > mem > Thank you mem, you said what I could not say. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 17:44:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA3NipY7014025 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:44:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00420A5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 18:44:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:44:32 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3NiWV21390 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:44:32 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA3NiVR03906 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:44:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c28393$385f5c40$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: weekend movie Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:46:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Anyone else see -Roger Dodger-? Annoying camera-work but > enjoyable film otherwise. In the indie mold. Good acting > by Campbell Scott. > > -rashmi > > Nope. But I saw Behind Enemy Lines last night on HBO and became so engrossed I wouldn't even leave the room to make myself a cup of tea. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 18:06:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA406dY7014163 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:06:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00420B40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 19:06:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126731 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:06:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA3NuOV22124 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:56:24 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3NuOOU014009 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:56:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:56:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary In-Reply-To: <200211032128.gA3LS5V09295@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 mem@LAVA.NET wrote: >>With the burial just yesterday, I'd say that he probably wants solitude >>and down time. > >I think it's a great myth that people who've suffered such losses want >solitude. Me too. Many want evidence of belonging to a community. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 18:44:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA40iOY7014416 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:44:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6DB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 19:44:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3127584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:44:09 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA40Y9V25079 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:34:09 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA40Y9OU025447 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:34:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:34:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: that Finland ticket Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Surprise! United will not refund my $1115.00 ticket to Helsinki. But I can use the ticket for another trip - it will be easiest to use on an int'l trip. So I think I may be going to Sydney next summer after all (for a conf) - I was not certain that i wanted to pay for it. A ticket will cost about $1500 - or an extra $400 plus a $150 charge. Sydney for $550 RT is not bad. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 18:50:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA40oXY7014457 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:50:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6E01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 19:50:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:50:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA40oHV26608 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:50:17 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.58]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H510W302.2D1 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:48:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC5C409.F773691@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 17:49:14 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gladiator References: <20021103220302.6046B7C07@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > What's the advantage of eating a goose cooked this way? As I quoted, the author said it is "mighty pleasant". > How do you > cook a living goose enough to eat it and still have it alive? I ain't up to typing in the whole thing. Trust me - its disgusting. > What > book are you reading? "How To Cook A Wolf", by M.F.K. Fisher. (1942) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:00:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA410OY7014544 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:00:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00420E2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:00:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:00:09 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4108V27571 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:00:09 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021104010003.IBH29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:00:03 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "meebers" Subject: DSAI Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:00:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't say anything interesting. I have to set nomail tonight so I can work overtime and not try to catch up on Words-L when I come home. I should be back on 11/16, assuming I meet my deadline. --Adam From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:01:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA411UY7014560 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:01:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6E85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:01:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:01:15 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA411FV27659 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:01:15 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021104010109.BDJ27144.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:01:09 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Adam Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Ann: New music for you to download/find at the library: Super > Furry Animals, > > a Welsh pop band. > > Is there anything Celtic about them? I hate Celtic. Nope. Sounds just like pop music but in a weird language. > Yes, thanks sincerely. She is clever, but I find I also have anti-folk > prejudices even when it's urban sophisticated folk. > > Sorry to be so negative but I have surprised myself at how much perfectly > good music that many many people like pisses me off. I am so much more > open with visual arts, I don't really understand this prickliness I find > in myself. No problem. Give the disc away to someone you think will appreciate it. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:04:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4146Y7014572 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:04:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00420E61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:03:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:03:51 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA413pV27939 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:03:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5100EVX1ME00@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:03:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 19:05:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Gladiator To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC5C7C3.1060500@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021103220302.6046B7C07@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC5C409.F773691@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > >>What's the advantage of eating a goose cooked this way? >> > > As I quoted, the author said it is "mighty pleasant". > > >>How do you >>cook a living goose enough to eat it and still have it alive? >> > > I ain't up to typing in the whole thing. Trust me - its disgusting. > > >>What >>book are you reading? >> > > "How To Cook A Wolf", by M.F.K. Fisher. (1942) > I don't remember this part. At all. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:17:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA41HSY7014644 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:17:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00420F21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:17:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128937 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:17:12 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA41HCV28869 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:17:12 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021104011707.PWR27144.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:17:07 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: movie time Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:17:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This afternoon I saw the documentary called 9/11 about the French > filmmakers shooting Ladder Company One when the twin towers were > hit. It is a powerful piece, and told in a professional, > unsentimental style. > > -aht I saw that too, and was moved by it. It was close to unwatchable in some parts for this . --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:23:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA41N2Y7014676 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:23:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00420F8F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:22:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:22:47 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA41MlV29342 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:22:47 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021104012241.ZYH29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:22:41 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Phone weirdness Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:22:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103075847.009fab10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I saw it at Sears when it upgraded a lot of Sears-Card holders to the > >Sears Gold MasterCard without asking them first. --Evelyn Duncan > > Yup. Happened to us. I use my Sears Card on an average of once > every five > years. But now I have a gold card. Whooppee. Uh-oh. I must not be as I still have the same Sears card I got in 1993, even though I was a Sears Best Customer in 1995. --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:24:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA41OuY7014687 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:24:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00420FA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:24:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:24:41 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA41OfV29451 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:24:41 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA21571 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:24:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A347338699; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:24:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:24:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 1 Message-ID: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Since everybody has put their lives on hold waiting for New York missive #2 and beyond--I must firmly but sadly say I still don't have time. A combination of seasonal cold, getting behind in the Book Club, shopping (which paralyzes me), and having to write my award-winning novel (November is novel-writing month) has left me with nothing to spare. Later ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:31:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA41VTY7014767 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:31:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6F9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:31:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:31:14 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA41VEV30033 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:31:14 -0500 Received: from brunnhilde ([66.31.140.70]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021104013108.BGMJ29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@brunnhilde> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:31:08 +0000 From: "Adam Hartfield" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: RE: Apartment Hunt Ended Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:31:19 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3DC523CB.BB0E68C@maynor.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > In a way a self-defrosting refrigerator is convenient, but in other ways > I preferred my old refrigerator. The defrosting of the automatic one > does odd things to the ice at times, and I also used defrosting times > with the old one to do thorough cleaning of it. It's easier to clean a > refrigerator you've just defrosted, imho. I'll trade you in a flash. Bring it to next SnowBash, wouldja? Thanks! --Adam adamh1@attbi.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:31:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA41ViY7014771 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:31:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6F9F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:31:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:31:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sYstvYlO92BLPTRvECxPW9WW7aRPpnpc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA41LSV29260 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:21:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762A82FE37 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 10DCA7C09; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:21:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <3DC5C409.F773691@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 3, 2002 5:49:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:21:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104012126.10DCA7C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > What's the advantage of eating a goose cooked this way? > > As I quoted, the author said it is "mighty pleasant". > > > How do you > > cook a living goose enough to eat it and still have it alive? > > I ain't up to typing in the whole thing. Trust me - its disgusting. > > > What > > book are you reading? > > "How To Cook A Wolf", by M.F.K. Fisher. (1942) Ah. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:33:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA41XSY7014782 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:33:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C6FB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:33:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:33:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Bg7BK/XxwgIJ3XoypAj94k7tTthYrbWk@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA41NCV29377 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:23:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5368C2FDBD for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A8737C0D; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:23:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: movie time In-Reply-To: from Adam Hartfield at "Nov 3, 2002 8:17:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 17:23:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104012311.0A8737C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield said: > > This afternoon I saw the documentary called 9/11 about the French > > filmmakers shooting Ladder Company One when the twin towers were > > hit. It is a powerful piece, and told in a professional, > > unsentimental style. > > > > -aht > > I saw that too, and was moved by it. It was close to unwatchable in some > parts for this . Is this the one that was on TV or something else? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 19:48:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA41mLY7014892 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 19:48:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042117F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 20:48:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:48:05 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA41lhV31522 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:47:43 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust75.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.77]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5D22A.905B498B@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:49:30 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 1 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Since everybody has put their lives on hold waiting for > New York missive #2 and beyond--I must firmly but sadly > say I still don't have time. A combination of seasonal > cold, getting behind in the Book Club, shopping (which > paralyzes me), and having to write my award-winning > novel (November is novel-writing month) has left me > with nothing to spare. Later ... You will be reminded. Don't think you will get away with this. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 20:25:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA42PTY7015101 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:25:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C7130@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 21:25:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130868 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:25:14 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA42PDV02150 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:25:13 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021104022507.CXHB29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 02:25:07 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103181208.034d2620@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:23:06 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <3DC5C409.F773691@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20021103220302.6046B7C07@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams writes, > I ain't up to typing in the whole thing. Trust me - its disgusting. For the thoroughly curious (and strong of stomach), the recipe is on the web at . Bottom of the page, search for "Secrets of Nature". Another version (with all sorts of other interesting medieval recipes) is at , right under the peacock recipe. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 20:26:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA42Q4Y7015106 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:26:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004213BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 21:25:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130875 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:25:48 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA42PmV02170 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:25:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.47]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104022727.ZLCK3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:27:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5DAA8.C2D8B8B4@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:25:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary References: <200211032128.gA3LS5V09295@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DC5A16D.5FC0BB7B@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Yes. In my experience and observing the experiences of others (mostly > widows), there is a huge lot of support up to the day of the funeral, > and then everyone goes away, back to their own lives, and you are left > totally alone in the world. I think that making contact with the > bereaved a few days after the event would be welcome and helpful. I can't imagine ever wanting to receive a phone call, especially from somebody I don't know all that well. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 20:27:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA42RmY7015119 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:27:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004213D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 21:27:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:27:32 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA42RWV02321 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:27:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.47]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104022911.ZMCP3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:29:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC5DB10.A95CD27@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:27:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Apartment Hunt Ended References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Adam Hartfield wrote: > > does odd things to the ice at times, and I also used defrosting times > > with the old one to do thorough cleaning of it. It's easier to clean a > > refrigerator you've just defrosted, imho. > > I'll trade you in a flash. Bring it to next SnowBash, wouldja? Thanks! What's the date? My schedule next semester won't be as travel-friendly as it was last year. I'm going to be teaching MWF instead of TTh. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 20:38:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA42cdY7015195 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:38:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C71B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 3 Nov 2002 21:38:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130950 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:38:23 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GTJwfQ5dqcmveJqfbvcw4v7nDQ9qsPIn@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA42SNV02391 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:28:23 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AA62FE5E for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A2A8D7C0E; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:28:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Gladiator In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103181208.034d2620@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 3, 2002 6:23: 6 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:28:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104022822.A2A8D7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > John Williams writes, > > > I ain't up to typing in the whole thing. Trust me - its disgusting. > > For the thoroughly curious (and strong of stomach), the recipe is on the web at > . > > Bottom of the page, search for "Secrets of Nature". > > Another version (with all sorts of other interesting medieval recipes) is > at , right > under the peacock recipe. This is the season for tur-duck-hens, but at least they aren't still alive! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 3 23:39:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA45dFY7016135 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 23:39:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C807A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 0:38:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142768 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:38:58 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA45cwV20911 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:38:58 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021104053852.EMLZ8743.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 05:38:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 21:38:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Dialect Survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bert Vaux et al. at Harvard have an extensive online North American dialect survey with maps of the results available for each question. Some questions: "cr[ee]k (a small body of running water)", "How do you pronounce Mary/merry/marry?", "Can you call coleslaw "slaw"?", "What do you call the long sandwich that contains cold cuts, lettuce, and so on?", etc. Vaux is preparing an atlas of North American dialects, based largely on the survey. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 00:48:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA46mQY7016742 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 00:48:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C828A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 1:48:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3144478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:48:08 -0500 Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA46m8V25263 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 01:48:08 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-002neomahp0329.dialsprint.net ([63.186.9.75]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188b1q-0005zl-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Sun, 03 Nov 2002 22:48:07 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 23:48:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Weird From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DC59F54.CD3EA4D9@maynor.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/3/2002 3:12 PM, Natalie Maynor at natalie@MAYNOR.NET wrote: > I should hope so. It's a newspaper I know quite well, read obituaries > in almost every day, and have contributed obituary information to. You're weird. Natalie, I never read any; but of course I don't know anyone who died personally. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 05:32:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4BWDY7018066 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 05:32:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042283E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 6:31:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:31:53 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail112.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4BVrV20257 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:31:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.207]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104113332.GNQJ13979.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:33:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC65AA5.8160CC91@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 05:31:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Vaux is preparing an atlas of North American dialects, based largely on the > survey. I hope its obvious limitations and questionable methodology will be made clear in the preface. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 05:35:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4BZRY7018082 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 05:35:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042284C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 6:35:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3151890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:35:08 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail012.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4BZ8V20511 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:35:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.207]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104113647.GOLQ13979.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:36:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC65B67.BDD57EE0@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 05:35:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > You're weird. Natalie, I never read any; but of course I don't know anyone > who died personally. You find it weird to read obituaries? I'd call that . It's not unusual for children or even young adults to ignore obituaries since they don't know as many people who are likely to show up in them. But that changes in mid life for most people, with the number of familiar names picking up speed at a frightening pace after a while. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 06:28:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4CSwY7018395 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:28:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004229B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 7:28:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:28:08 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4CS7V08280 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:28:07 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3H1FT>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:29:52 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3H1FS; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:29:50 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021104132614.0317b7e0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:27:55 +0100 Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC65B67.BDD57EE0@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 05:35 04.11.2002 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Theodora Groothof wrote: > >> You're weird. Natalie, I never read any; but of course I don't know anyone >> who died personally. > >You find it weird to read obituaries? I'd call that . >It's not unusual for children or even young adults to ignore obituaries >since they don't know as many people who are likely to show up in them. >But that changes in mid life for most people, with the number of >familiar names picking up speed at a frightening pace after a while. I started to read the death notices when I moved back to Oslo and subscribed to the paper where deaths are usually announced. Espen - not so young any more From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 06:35:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4CZSY7018435 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:35:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C8CF1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 7:35:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3071375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:35:08 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4CP8V08046 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:25:08 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4CP8OU010414 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:25:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary In-Reply-To: <3DC5DAA8.C2D8B8B4@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I can't imagine ever wanting to receive a phone call, especially from >somebody I don't know all that well. That is the weirdest statement I have ever read on this . Natalie, please remember that you are unlike all others. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 07:32:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4DWgY7018666 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:32:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C9067@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 8:32:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3074392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:32:20 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4DWKV16376 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:32:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA4DWIX15337 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:32:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC676E1.FD52540B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 07:32:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Quandary References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I can't imagine ever wanting to receive a phone call, especially from > >somebody I don't know all that well. > > That is the weirdest statement I have ever read on this > . Natalie, please remember that you are unlike all others. I realize that some people like receiving phone calls. I did not mean to suggest otherwise. My guess, however, is that I am not "unlike all others" in not wanting to get phone calls. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 07:50:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4Do7Y7018724 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:50:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C91EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 8:49:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3075439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:49:46 -0500 Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4DnkV19116 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:49:46 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.111.1b2d8284 (4446) for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:49:43 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <111.1b2d8284.2af7d4f7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:49:43 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Quandary To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/04/2002 7:32:24 AM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << I realize that some people like receiving phone calls. I did not mean to suggest otherwise. My guess, however, is that I am not "unlike all others" in not wanting to get phone calls. >> I like getting calls from people I know; I don't like getting calls from people I don't know (unless it's the Prize Patrol). Sometimes I wish I could travel back in time and ask Bell "Are you sure you want to do this?" Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 08:13:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4EDLY7018819 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:13:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00423143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 9:13:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3076263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:13:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7CGsIq7UN69SL7boSBmO5p0YYkvw51tq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4E30V21202 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:03:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2E72FE81 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E09B57C0D; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:02:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC65B67.BDD57EE0@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 4, 2002 5:35: 3 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:02:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104140259.E09B57C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > You find it weird to read obituaries? I'd call that . If I'd lived in the same place for a zillion years, I might read obituaries. But I don't here; I don't know so many people that I might not hear of a death otherwise. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:01:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4F1pY7019078 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:01:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004236D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:01:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3081623 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:01:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4F1TV00987 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:01:29 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-22.panax.com [65.114.190.22]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4F1St00322 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:01:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104094922.00b34fc0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:01:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:38 PM 11/3/2002 -0800, pete wrote: >Bert Vaux et al. at Harvard have an extensive online North American dialect >survey with maps of the results available for each question. Thanks, Pete. I filled out the survey. Some of the responses are interesting; some are predictable (i.e., what is "the City") and probably reflect where the respondent now lives as opposed to where they "learned" the language. I was a little puzzled by having to choose a city, i.e., an area, that I considered to be primary in affecting my dialect/word choice. Presumably, that area is where my responses will be registered. I suppose that works fairly well for someone who still lives close to where they were born. I rather suspect that most of us who have relocated several times have modified our dialects as we found one particular use/pronunciation to be more effective/precise/acceptable. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:17:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FHJY7019158 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:17:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C9CAD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:16:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3082989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:16:58 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FGvV04117 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:16:57 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust132.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.134]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:16:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC68FC9.6EA30C37@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:18:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104094922.00b34fc0@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: (i.e., what is "the City") and probably > reflect where the respondent now lives as opposed to where they "learned" > the language. I puzzled over that one. To me, NYC is the city. But given that they wanted to know where I learned the language, I put Chicago, because that was the city then. Hope I did not skew the results too much. I have no words for some things. Vocabulary-challenged is what I am. alyce > -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:27:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FRTY7019196 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:27:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00423A8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:27:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084478 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:27:08 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.188]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FR8V07617 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:27:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:27:02 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:27:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:27:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 15:27:02.0676 (UTC) FILETIME=[9FE88D40:01C28416] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >>rather suspect that most of us who have relocated several times have >modified our dialects as we found one particular use/pronunciation to be >more effective/precise/acceptable. In addition, some of the answers, like "crown" for "crayon" would be based on age and/or education, I would think, rather than by geographical area. I found some of the answers interesting: "The devil is beating his wife" for "sunshower" was a totally new one on me. I was also surprised to see "mischief night" is mostly a Mid-Atlantic thing. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:29:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FTpY7019206 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:29:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00423AE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:29:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084629 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:29:30 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f5.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FTUV07967 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:29:30 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:29:24 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:29:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:29:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 15:29:24.0905 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4AEF990:01C28416] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: alyce cresap >I puzzled over that one. To me, NYC is the city. But given that they >wanted to know where I learned the language, I put Chicago, because that >was the city then. I put hoagie, even though I generally use sub these days, for the same reason. Actually, I know live where they call it a "wedge". Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:30:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FUsY7019233 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:30:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040C9EA7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:30:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3084719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:30:33 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FUXV08192 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:30:33 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27280 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 4 Nov 02 10:30:33 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 4 Nov 02 10:30:11 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:30:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Message-ID: <3DC64C2B.25792.715606@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I found the questions more interesting than the results - especially because the maps don't display with enough detail. BrP > >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" > >>rather suspect that most of us who have relocated several times have > >modified our dialects as we found one particular use/pronunciation to be > >more effective/precise/acceptable. > > In addition, some of the answers, like "crown" for "crayon" would be based > on age and/or education, I would think, rather than by geographical area. > > I found some of the answers interesting: "The devil is beating his wife" > for "sunshower" was a totally new one on me. I was also surprised to see > "mischief night" is mostly a Mid-Atlantic thing. > > Marie > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:31:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FVeY7019239 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:31:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00423B2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:31:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3083751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:31:19 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:DP+yIJrm3jkIMNS9tccnpfXu7BLFHUQ8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FLIV05879 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:21:19 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385642FDF8 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C8D67C10; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:21:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <3DC68FC9.6EA30C37@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 4, 2002 10:18:33 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:21:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104152117.8C8D67C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > (i.e., what is "the City") and probably > > reflect where the respondent now lives as opposed to where they "learned" > > the language. > > I puzzled over that one. To me, NYC is the city. But given that they > wanted to know where I learned the language, I put Chicago, because that > was the city then. Hope I did not skew the results too much. I'd be very surprised if a majority of respondents didn't have that kind of disconnect. (I refer you to Natalie's remarks about accuracy.) > I have no > words for some things. > Vocabulary-challenged is what I am. Yeah, right. What don't you have words for? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:34:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FYYY7019258 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:34:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00423B92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FYDV09092 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust132.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.134]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:34:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC693D7.D1AFCFA8@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:35:51 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > I found some of the answers interesting: "The devil is beating his wife" > for "sunshower" was a totally new one on me. I was also surprised to see > "mischief night" is mostly a Mid-Atlantic thing. Those are two of the things for which I have no word. alyce > -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:37:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4Fb4Y7019280 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:37:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00423BE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:36:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085224 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:36:42 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FagV09663 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:36:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA4FadX00837 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:36:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC69407.5348944B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:36:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Weird References: <20021104140259.E09B57C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > You find it weird to read obituaries? I'd call that . > > If I'd lived in the same place for a zillion years, I might read > obituaries. But I don't here; I don't know so many people that I might > not hear of a death otherwise. I would be less inclined to read them in a place I'd moved to in recent years than in the place I'm from. That's why I read them in the Jackson paper. It includes them for people who used to live there, not just people currently there (or currently in death there). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:39:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4Fd2Y7019294 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:39:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00423C28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:38:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:38:31 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FcVV09982 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:38:31 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust132.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.134]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:38:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC694D9.C25234A7@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:40:09 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <20021104152117.8C8D67C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > What don't you have words for? Can't remember all. The two Marie just mentioned. And a drive-through liquor store. Never even heard of such a thing. I guess I'd call it a drive-through liquor store. There was one more that escapes me now. And I had to put remarks on a couple. I never knew my maternal grandfather because he died before I was born, so couldn't answer that, and I called my grandmother "Gram," which was not a given choice. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:39:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FdLY7019300 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:39:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00423C2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:39:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:39:00 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Fd0V10323 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:39:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA4FcwX01744 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:38:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC69492.E3366BA3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:38:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104094922.00b34fc0@mail.panax.com> <3DC68FC9.6EA30C37@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Hope I did not skew the results too much. Their results will be mightily skewed anyway. What they're doing is fun and is not totally worthless but is far from a scientific dialect survey. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:41:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FfQY7019311 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:41:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00423C65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:41:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:41:05 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Ff5V10639 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:41:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA4FewX02463 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:41:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC6950A.16FCF219@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:40:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I found some of the answers interesting: "The devil is beating his wife" > for "sunshower" was a totally new one on me. I was also surprised to see > "mischief night" is mostly a Mid-Atlantic thing. I've never heard of sunshower, but I certainly know when the devil's beating his wife. Never heard of "mischief night" either. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:51:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FpdY7019372 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:51:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00423DD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:51:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:51:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4NQCl+g9abnGMv9XVw8vT50z2a4QJcLI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FfHV10692 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:41:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472232FE0A for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6E3737C09; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:41:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <3DC69407.5348944B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 4, 2002 9:36:39 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:41:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104154116.6E3737C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I would be less inclined to read them in a place I'd moved to in recent > years than in the place I'm from. That's why I read them in the Jackson > paper. It includes them for people who used to live there, not just > people currently there (or currently in death there). I suppose I haven't lived anywhere long enough for obituaries to be relevant. I rely on various mailing lists for obituaries of linguists. I do hope to live here long enough for obituaries to be relevant. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:53:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FrMY7019378 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:53:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CA21F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:52:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3085839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:52:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:VvBHcvWvN3hKJ1Nh2RmfznolZONam6zJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FgtV11211 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:42:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B3B2FDF8 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 18C2C7C0E; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:42:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <3DC694D9.C25234A7@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 4, 2002 10:40: 9 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:42:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104154255.18C2C7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > What don't you have words for? > > Can't remember all. The two Marie just mentioned. And a drive-through > liquor store. Never even heard of such a thing. I guess I'd call it a > drive-through liquor store. I thought that's what they were called. They have them here--I know people who run one, and it's just labeled Drive Through... it might be beer only, though. > was born, so couldn't answer that, and I called my grandmother "Gram," > which was not a given choice. Me, too. My maternal GM. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:54:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FsOY7019386 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:54:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00423E4F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:54:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:54:03 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f171.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Fs1V15661 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:54:03 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:53:55 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:53:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:53:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 15:53:55.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[61539940:01C2841A] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: alyce cresap >Can't remember all. The two Marie just mentioned. And a drive-through >liquor store. Never even heard of such a thing. Then there was that game with the knife...peggly weggly or whatever. I might have said "chicken" just because it reminds me of other chicken-like games, but I guess I shouldn't have because this particular game I've never heard of. I also didn't have a word for the bug that skips along the top of the water. The rubbernecking one was poorly constructed. I would call that a "rubbernecking delay" (that's what they say on the radio here too) but that wasn't an answer. They had a)"rubberneck", b)"rubbernecking" and something like c)"rubbernecking" is the verb but I don't know what to call the traffic jam caused by rubbernecking. Which just confused things... Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 09:58:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4FwZY7019399 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:58:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00423EEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:58:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3087028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:58:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4FmEV13895 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:48:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4FmDOU014336 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:48:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:48:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > I just looked at the site and noticed these sentences: >>>Scott A. Golder is a Linguistics concentrator at Harvard University. His research interests include sociolinguistic issues in computer-mediated communication (CMC). Rebecca Starr is a Linguistics concentrator at Harvard University, with a related field in Art History.<<< Query: What is a ? A lecturer? A student? What level? Bethaqny From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:06:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4G6ZY7019456 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:06:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CA3EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:06:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3088192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:06:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:o0r9dP1pXWQAkWBm8dnqKvfRU3Pp/Kep@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Fu9V16247 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:56:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C112FE09 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:56:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E76157C0F; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:56:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Nov 4, 2002 10:53:55 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:56:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104155607.E76157C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: alyce cresap > >Can't remember all. The two Marie just mentioned. And a drive-through > >liquor store. Never even heard of such a thing. > > Then there was that game with the knife...peggly weggly or whatever. I might Mumbledy peg. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:10:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GAjY7019497 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:10:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:10:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089614 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:10:24 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f133.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.133]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GAOV19912 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:10:24 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:10:18 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:10:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:10:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 16:10:18.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[AB66FFC0:01C2841C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Karen Kay > > Then there was that game with the knife...peggly weggly or whatever. I >might > >Mumbledy peg. This is something you know? Is it a common thing? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:10:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GAlY7019500 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:10:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00424083@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:10:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089618 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:10:25 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GAPV19916 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:10:25 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021104161020.RTOF29857.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:10:20 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104080004.021f3ec0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 08:03:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <3DC65AA5.8160CC91@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I hope its obvious limitations and questionable methodology will be made >clear in the preface. Yeah, I had a hard time even writing "based largely on the survey," but that's what the NYT article said... Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:15:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GF3Y7019548 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:15:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CA519@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:14:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3089020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:14:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GGvra8uOtdpGIpEgturloysNh5LTr5Tc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4G4fV18457 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:04:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C582FE91 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7AA5A7C1B; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:04:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 4, 2002 10:48:13 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:04:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104160440.7AA5A7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > > > I just looked at the site and noticed these sentences: > > >>>Scott A. Golder is a Linguistics concentrator at Harvard > University. His research interests include sociolinguistic issues in > computer-mediated communication (CMC). > > Rebecca Starr is a Linguistics concentrator at Harvard University, with a > related field in Art History.<<< > > Query: What is a ? A lecturer? A student? What level? "concentrator" is their word for "major". Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:26:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GQsY7019593 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:26:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004242AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:26:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3091503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:26:33 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GQWV23954 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:26:32 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:26:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6A054.49957110@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:29:09 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Query: What is a ? A lecturer? A student? What level? Maybe it is a major? She is concentrating her studies in/on linguistics? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:27:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GRHY7019600 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:27:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CA6E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:26:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3090505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:26:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:0q2Jzt/5924UKL7RAg/yLftpv4M1EaU9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GGsV22086 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:16:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8842FDEB for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1F5397C0D; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:16:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Nov 4, 2002 11:10:18 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:16:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104161654.1F5397C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: Karen Kay > > > Then there was that game with the knife...peggly weggly or whatever. I > >might > > > >Mumbledy peg. > > This is something you know? Is it a common thing? It used to be. I remember it from my chidlhood. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:32:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GWWY7019637 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:32:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042434B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:32:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3092063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:32:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GWBV25194 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:32:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:32:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6A1A5.1D4A3312@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 11:34:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Then there was that game with the knife...peggly weggly or whatever. I might > have said "chicken" just because it reminds me of other chicken-like games, > but I guess I shouldn't have because this particular game I've never heard of. I always have thought that mumble-whatever-pag is an old-time game. I know my father played it when young, which is partly how I've heard of it. And it is in old kids' series books and things like Penrod. A game from the glorious days when boys whittled and everyone carried a Boy Scout knife. I wonder if it is played now at all. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:50:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GotY7019721 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:50:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042457C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:50:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:50:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:060K9h40KiE1Q1sy2R7QtNfVW3U9Ooiq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GeWV27381 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:40:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6287D2FE60 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 04A137C12; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:40:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <3DC6A1A5.1D4A3312@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 4, 2002 11:34:45 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:40:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104164031.04A137C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > I know my father played it when young, which is partly how I've > heard of it. What?! If peopel my age played it, I'd've thought people your age played it. > A game from the glorious days when boys whittled and everyone > carried a Boy Scout knife. I wonder if it is played now at all. Men still do carry knives--except on airplanes. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 10:51:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4GpqY7019727 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:51:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CA9CB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:51:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3093871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:51:31 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GpUV29584 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:51:30 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021104165124.TCVV27144.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:51:24 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104083806.02a8aec0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 08:50:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <3DC6A1A5.1D4A3312@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gA4GpUV29585 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap writes, >A game from the glorious days when boys whittled and everyone carried a >Boy Scout knife. Even though I think of the late 60's - early 70's as after the glorious days, I whittled, carried a knife and was in the Boy Scouts. We played mumblety peg a little. Three decades later, Ethan carries a cell phone, but no knife (or pistol, as Jim noted), and plays Pokémon cards (he's Gym Leader) instead of being in the Boy Scouts. His big leisure time project right now is programming the behavior of a set of vehicle avatars (truck, helicopter, etc.) which can be used to transport goods in a virtual world populated by virtual creatures. Before that, he liked to tinker with the virtual creatures' simulated genomes and biochemistry. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:04:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4H4mY7019812 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:04:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424785@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:04:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3095397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:04:26 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4H4QV32261 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:04:26 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:04:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6A936.4F8B3CD0@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:07:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <20021104164031.04A137C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Men still do carry knives--except on airplanes. Yes, Ken remembered to leave his knife in his new apartment. And his razor. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:08:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4H8GY7019831 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:08:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CAC1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:07:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3094220 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:07:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8NuQlFr8NuDpLGM1xVzboIJ07YjZcF+M@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4GvpV30413 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:57:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFFD2FEA7 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:57:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 703747C0E; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:57:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104083806.02a8aec0@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 4, 2002 8:50:42 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:57:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104165750.703747C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > His big leisure time project right now is programming the behavior of a set > of vehicle avatars (truck, helicopter, etc.) which can be used to transport Okay, I find it slightly scary that a kid his age even knows the word 'avatar'! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:26:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HQWY7019941 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:26:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CAE94@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:26:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:26:10 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4HQAV04371 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:26:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6AE40.26263E3@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:28:32 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Thinking of Thucydides Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thucydides, THE PELOPONNESIAN WAR, 427 B.C. "Words had to change their ordinary meanings and to take those which were now given them. Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal supporter; moderation was held to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question incapacity to act on any. Frantic violence became the attribute of manliness; cautious plotting a justifiable means of self-defense. The advocate of extreme measures was always trustworthy; his opponent a man to be suspected." -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:27:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HRaY7019945 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:27:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424A19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097752 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:14 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HRDV04539 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 15388 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:26:36 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:26:36 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:26:33 -0700 Message-ID: <025101c28428$13d15780$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002801c280b6$002abfc0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021031180248.GA25690@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:25:01 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU TS> I haven't lived in India for 11 years, but I never followed TS> football, and never heard the word "footie". I must come from TS> sturdy low-class cricket-watching stock, ha ha ha ... complete TS> with resentment against people who follow football and tennis TS> and what not ... I watch a lot of cricket but the whole match-fixing thing put me off.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:27:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HRdY7019948 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:27:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00424A1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:17 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HRGV04549 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 15563 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:26:38 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:26:38 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:26:36 -0700 Message-ID: <025201c28428$15e395b0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:26:29 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU RM> Have you come across -My Name is Red-, by Orhan Pamuk? No,I haven't not much of a poetry person,I prefer fiction... Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:27:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HReY7019951 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:27:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CAEB2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:17 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HRHV04550 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 15737 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:26:42 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:26:42 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:26:38 -0700 Message-ID: <025301c28428$18082360$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:28:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU NM> Seems to me that it would be mightily odd for somebody in another NM> country to know or care anything about US fb. We get to see the superbowl in India and qiute a lot of them watch it.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:27:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HReY7019952 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:27:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00424A1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097773 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:18 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HRHV04563 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 15889 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:26:44 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:26:44 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:26:42 -0700 Message-ID: <025401c28428$194a8e70$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <3856940556.20021030082109@gailndan.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030182054.009f9830@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:36:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU B> Why are we assuming Red is a "he". I'm picturing Red as a woman. I guess because it does seem odd for a woman to follow football and call her names,I'm yet to come across one,BTW,would it make a difference if Red were to be a woman? We do tend to build up an image of the person by the type of nic he/she chooses,so it does seem fairly odd to not think of the person as we percieve him,it just takes the fun out of the conversation.That's how I feel anyway.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:27:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HReY8019951 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:27:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CAEB5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:19 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HRIV04569 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 16068 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:26:47 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:26:47 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:26:44 -0700 Message-ID: <025501c28428$1afc8430$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> <3DC1B99D.D9432640@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:39:28 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU NM> I don't know how many foreigners follow rugby, but I see a big NM> difference between international interest in a sport played in only a NM> couple of countries and in a sport played throughout the world and NM> culminating in the world's biggest sports event every summer. Which event are you talking about? Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:27:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HRfY7019960 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:27:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00424A1E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097783 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:19 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HRJV04575 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 16175 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:26:49 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:26:49 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:26:47 -0700 Message-ID: <025601c28428$1c41fc80$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <2142786C-EE23-11D6-8ADF-00039383D034@onetel.net.uk> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:46:41 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU RJ> Charlton, Southampton, Middlesborough, Sunderland perhaps Arsenal RJ> On the other hand you do mean RED don't you. Must be Liverpool RJ> where isn't any white in their kit is there ? The Reds from Manchester,not the scouse b**tards... Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:27:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HRfY8019960 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:27:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00424A1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3097790 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:20 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HRKV04591 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:27:20 -0500 Received: (qmail 16327 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:26:51 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:26:51 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:26:49 -0700 Message-ID: <025701c28428$1dd3e720$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "Word - L" Subject: Happy Diwali! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:01:47 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have been away for sometime now,its Diwali in India,festive time this..Happy Diwali/Deepawali Rashmi,Tushar..Happy Diwali list.. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:47:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HlWY7020066 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:47:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CB0F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:47:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3098689 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:47:10 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4HbAV06511 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:37:10 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4Hb9OU018288 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:37:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:37:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. In-Reply-To: <025401c28428$194a8e70$e2cfc0cb@redbox> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Red wrote: >We do tend to build up an image of the person by the type of nic he/she >chooses,so it does seem fairly odd to not think of the person as we percieve Most people I know with nicknames did not choose them - their friends/relatives/enemies chose them. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 11:54:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4HsQY7020094 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:54:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CB190@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:54:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:53:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f67.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4HrtV09564 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:53:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:53:50 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:53:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Translation please. Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:53:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 17:53:50.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[21C7AF30:01C2842B] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >Did tampon use pick up quite a bit in the late '50s, or was it just that >it happened to pick up among people I knew around that time? Even >though tampons were invented much earlier, nobody I knew started using >them immediately upon arrival of (mid '50s). Oops. Dead bird. Although the tampon was introduced as an OTC product in the early 1930s, and a major marketing campaign initiated in the mid-30s, it a long time to catch on. Two studies in the late 30s found that 4-6% of women attending a general medical practice had ever used a tampon, and sales were sluggish. It wasn't until 1947 that sales were high enough to warrant a separate category in the registry of the Census of Manufactures. I don't know what % of women were using tampons at that time, but it would make sense to assume that it wasn't until the mid-fifties that use became mainstream.* The author was comparing the early history of tampon use to the current experience of the female condom. * Latka, M. Female-initiated barrier methods for the prevention of STI/HIV: where are we now? Where should we go? J Urban Health 2001 Dec;78(4):571-80. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:10:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IA4Y7020178 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:10:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CB301@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:09:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3100961 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:09:41 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4I9fV12401 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:09:41 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA15123 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:09:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A619038699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:09:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:09:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Happy Diwali! Message-ID: <20021104180940.GC20671@pobox.com> References: <025701c28428$1dd3e720$e2cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <025701c28428$1dd3e720$e2cfc0cb@redbox> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:01:47PM +0530, Red wrote: > I have been away for sometime now,its Diwali in India,festive time > this..Happy Diwali/Deepawali Rashmi,Tushar..Happy Diwali list.. Thanks From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IDvY7020191 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424B50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:40:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3098928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:40:30 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4HeTV07046 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:40:29 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA29872 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:40:29 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3A0E438699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:40:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:40:29 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021104174029.GA20671@pobox.com> References: <025201c28428$15e395b0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <025201c28428$15e395b0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 10:26:29PM +0530, Red wrote: > RM> Have you come across -My Name is Red-, by Orhan Pamuk? > > No,I haven't not much of a poetry person,I prefer fiction... I see ... this is fiction. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IDvY7020192 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424B81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:42:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:42:46 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4HgkV07503 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:42:46 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA01038 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:42:46 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D9A1F38699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:42:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:42:45 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Message-ID: <20021104174245.GB20671@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> <3DC65AA5.8160CC91@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC65AA5.8160CC91@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:31:49AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > Vaux is preparing an atlas of North American dialects, based largely on the > > survey. > > I hope its obvious limitations and questionable methodology will be made > clear in the preface. I was wondering. Then I thought, I haven't seen the site, maybe it's got some logic. I can't think of any way in which an online survey can be useful ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IDvY7020195 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00424D0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:59:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:59:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:AuF62ZwNW8EfVSX2HR+zsQxhSSJpiGAs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4HnqV08909 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:49:52 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A682FEFF for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DFB927C09; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:49:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Dialect Survey In-Reply-To: <20021104174245.GB20671@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 4, 2002 11:42:45 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:49:51 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021104174951.DFB927C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:31:49AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > > > Vaux is preparing an atlas of North American dialects, based largely on the > > > survey. > > > > I hope its obvious limitations and questionable methodology will be made > > clear in the preface. > > I was wondering. Then I thought, I haven't seen the site, maybe > it's got some logic. I can't think of any way in which an online > survey can be useful ... Undergrads probably have to write a thesis, like at Yale. I bet this is thesis-fodder. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IDvY8020191 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424E61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:11:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3101786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:11:47 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4IBkV13380 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:11:46 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA16346 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:11:46 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id BFF7B38699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:11:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:11:45 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Message-ID: <20021104181145.GD20671@pobox.com> References: <20021104174245.GB20671@pobox.com> <20021104174951.DFB927C09@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021104174951.DFB927C09@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 09:49:51AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:31:49AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > > > > > Vaux is preparing an atlas of North American dialects, based largely > > > > on the survey. > > > > > > I hope its obvious limitations and questionable methodology will be made > > > clear in the preface. > > > > I was wondering. Then I thought, I haven't seen the site, maybe > > it's got some logic. I can't think of any way in which an online > > survey can be useful ... > > Undergrads probably have to write a thesis, like at Yale. I bet this > is thesis-fodder. That's probably it ... I have seen the site now, and it is not "useful". In fact even as an "online survey" it seems pretty badly done. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IDvY8020192 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424E91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:13:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3101894 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:13:18 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4IDIV13632 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:13:18 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA17323 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C3B7338699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Message-ID: <20021104181317.GE20671@pobox.com> References: <025201c28428$15e395b0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> <20021104174029.GA20671@pobox.com> <027c01c2842a$dac8f0d0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <027c01c2842a$dac8f0d0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:21:48PM +0530, Red wrote: > TS> I see ... this is fiction. > > I understand,what I meant was books,stories.. "My name is Red" is a novel. I started it a couple months ago, but didn't continue. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IDvY7020193 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00424BE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:46:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:46:29 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA4HkSV08308 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:46:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 26091 invoked by uid 417); 4 Nov 2002 17:46:27 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 4 Nov 2002 17:46:27 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 10:46:26 -0700 Message-ID: <027c01c2842a$dac8f0d0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <025201c28428$15e395b0$e2cfc0cb@redbox> <20021104174029.GA20671@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:21:48 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU TS> I see ... this is fiction. I understand,what I meant was books,stories.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 12:13:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4IDvY7020194 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00424C00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:47:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3099369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:47:42 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4HlfV08514 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:47:42 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Hlfb18937 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:47:41 -0500 Received: from [131.128.1.150] (BEACHBUM.ACC.uri.edu [131.128.1.150]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id gA4Hjlv10673 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:45:47 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:48:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>From: Karen Kay >> > Then there was that game with the knife...peggly weggly or whatever. I >>might >> >>Mumbledy peg. > >This is something you know? Is it a common thing? > In Philadelphia, I learned it as just peg; not one of the choices. /Jim >Marie > >_________________________________________________________________ >Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 13:19:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4JJXY7020625 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:19:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004255B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:19:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3107051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:19:11 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4JJ9325881 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:19:09 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:19:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6C8C7.599332CB@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:21:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: rollicking fun in bookland Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Life is good when we have days like this. From a friend in Boston: Someone sent out a nastygram about an ebayer purporting that a ratty looking 1901 reprint of Titus Andronicus was possibly a first edition. So instead of ridicuing them, i sent them a nice email informing them that it couldn't possibly be. The seller was most pleased to find this out and then I asked them if they needed any other help identifying books to contact me. this is what I got: >Thank You, >I do have others, One is a phrenology Book...I also have one that I am Afraid to OPEN! I was told it is Pig >or Lamb skin covered and that the Pages are very thick yet Fragile! It is a Very Scary book to me because >from What I CAN see of the Title it looks to be some sort of Magickal or Satanic Ritual book. >Would you know of these kinds of Books? -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 13:25:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4JPhY7020661 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:25:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00425655@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:25:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3107541 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:25:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4JPF326903 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:25:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-22.panax.com [65.114.190.22]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4JPEt19709 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:25:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104141651.00b2f950@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:25:10 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: <20021104154116.6E3737C09@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC69407.5348944B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:41 AM 11/4/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >I do hope to live here long enough for obituaries to be relevant. We don't know all that many people here and many that we are friends with are younger than are we, so it's more likely that they will be reading our obituaries. However, I at least scan the obits in our local paper. Many of them concern people who lived here all or most of their lives or were otherwise influential on the island and who lived well into their 80s or more. Their personal histories are closely tied to the history of MDI and its villages; the writers do a good job of presenting all of this. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 13:48:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4JmiY7020788 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:48:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CBF5A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:48:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3109925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:48:22 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4JmL331714 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:48:21 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA10925 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:48:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id F3E1938699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:48:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:48:20 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: rollicking fun in bookland Message-ID: <20021104194820.GA7904@pobox.com> References: <3DC6C8C7.599332CB@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC6C8C7.599332CB@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 02:21:43PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Life is good when we have days like this. From a friend in Boston: > > Someone sent out a nastygram about an ebayer purporting that a ratty > looking 1901 reprint of Titus Andronicus was possibly a first edition. > So instead of ridicuing them, i sent them a nice email informing them > that it couldn't possibly be. The seller was most pleased to find this > out and then I asked them if they needed any other help identifying books > to contact me. this is what I got: > > >Thank You, > >I do have others, One is a phrenology Book...I also have one that I am > >Afraid to OPEN! I was told it is Pig or Lamb skin covered and that the > >Pages are very thick yet Fragile! It is a Very Scary book to me because > >from What I CAN see of the Title it looks to be some sort of Magickal or > >Satanic Ritual book. Would you know of these kinds of Books? Report them to Homeland Security. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 13:50:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4JoEY7020797 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:50:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CBF82@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:49:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110016 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:49:51 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Jnp331985 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:49:51 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA11686 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:49:50 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 794CF38699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:49:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:49:50 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My brother in law--I will call him CP from now on, in accordance with his initials, and also in accordance with an in-joke between my sister and me--CP called, and suddenly I was transported to another world. He had been late to come home, so didn't call. They had all gone to see "Oklahoma!"--front-row seats. It was a state-sponsored trip, and I guess the state department doesn't mess around. I liked their itinerary. For instance, who the hell gets to live with a Quaker family? But he did. So he was now at the UN headquarters and he would call me in the afternoon. Etc etc. I was relieved about Oklahoma!, that's for sure. Some ass had told CP that The Lion King was not to be missed, and was pretty much the major reason to visit New York. I felt a bit better about my chances of talking him out of it. On the other hand, the note of shopping was stressed, which stressed me out. At any rate, I put the phone down, and walked to the train, and got off at 79th. It was a very beautiful day. Shooting a disdainful glance at Zabar's, I walked to the River's Edge hotel, for no other reason than that Dr Borkin had unwittingly endorsed the park beyond. I walked to the park to look at the river, and, well, looked at the river, and read a few more pages of Don Quijote. It is a hilarious book, by the way. Any similar thing seems pathetic and pale compared to it. And very few things seem dissimilar. This has all been said before, of course. If you wish to read a story of the free spirit and the open road-- throw out whatever you have and read this book. It was quiet, green and golden, with silent monoliths of mansions rising behind and a blue river in front. A few boats later I reluctantly got up. Couldn't take too much relaxation, I think, with all that was going on. You know, inside. Or maybe it is congenital. I felt I should walk around. "You make a great deal of sense, Sancho", maybe the voice of hunger told me. My father used to call me Sancho. I walked to Barney Greengrass (gain, courtesy of Marie). I liked it. It is a civilized place. But I am not sure I should use the big word "civilized" for a small meaning; I only mean it is simple, a simply dressed guy can quickly get a table at 1 o'clock on a cool, brilliant afternoon, it is filled but quiet and airy, the waiter speaks simply, and the food is good. I ate eggs, whitefish and salmon. It truly was excellent. Barney Greengrass is not a fake name; I think "Barney" runs the place. He has a face which I associate with good food, in Chicago at least. As usual, I had an added advantage--I could speak easily to the "help". Must have been from Bangladesh--he certainly didn't have a problem with someone rapaciously picking the fish clean. When I first came to America I ended up too often in chintzy- upscale restaurants, where it seemed like they *disapproved* of eating everything on your plate. And so, if I have any food- related dimension to my memories, it is the gradual discovery of quiet places where they like people who eat. Needless to say, I haven't had to go on a separate search for food that hits the spot. I walked across the park, along the reservoir, to the Guggenheim. By now there wasn't the slightest question of getting lost; I had gotten my autopilot. It is when you dissolve in the city. Maybe it takes two or three trips. When you do, street and park, water and land, people and benches come together. The lines were too damn long. I just ran into the shop and bought a few small things, for friends. Museum stores are the best, right, for trinkets? And I frankly didn't feel all that interested in the Art of the Motorcycle or the evolution of Giorgio Armani's print ads. We readers of Don Quijote go to the Frick instead. I made that plan, walked around a bit and took the train back. * * * Reports of snipers, and panic or defiance, sounds of college girls echoing round the floor (must have been a reunion), and a little patch of light on the floor--it was all intermingled as I dozed and waited for a call. * * * In the evening I finally met CP. It's been two years; also, he had never seen me with a shaved head. Strange! Though maybe it's much better put this way: I had never really gotten to know him. That finally happened in New York. My fear had no basis, of course. He laughed when the subject of The Lion King came up. Laughed, because we didn't know each other so well that he could say screw that. And when I asked how he would feel about Birdland, he agreed at once. So we walked--we walked a lot--and he had some quite interesting stories too, from India and from his trip here. I had a good time. And more importantly, I knew my sister would be pretty happy to hear this ... Birdland had an as-you-expect kind of band; highly polished music, but basically, should I say, Ellingtonian? It was great. Once upon a time, I have read on liner notes, this place was a fount of invention, and so we went. What's "place" anyway, they have relocated. I fed him gumbo--with everything being new to him, food was not going to be a problem--and I had catfish with greens. I had a great good time. I asked him how he felt, and he said, six or seven hundred notes and a good dinner, what was there to complain. Ha ha, excellent answer... This was going to be blast. I told him all I could remember about the place from my bookish reading, as we walked to his hotel. And I dropped him off, took the train, had a couple of pts at Fitzers, and was fast asleep shortly thereafter. * * * Appendix 1: My much-maligned brother-in-law Sister warning: May attach a lot of importance to how you dress, don't be a dork. Reality: NOT. He just thought *I* was like that. A natural hypothesis in the absence of relevant information. Sister warning: Don't let him near any consumer crap, he will shop till he drops. Reality: Not consumer crap. GADGETS. What an insult to a crucial difference ... And none bought anyway. Precisely as it should be. A fervent appeal to sisters everywhere! * * * Appendix 2: The degradation of "Girls' Night Out" Just bitching ... time was--or was there ever a time--when a jazz "lounge" would mean tough ch*ks. Like thrift stores, they are practically one of the reasons one goes--they light up your heart and leech out your bitterness just by being there. The party near us was the opposite. And the fug of perfume was dense enough to stick your fork into, and they talked ear-splittingly, above the music. I contend that that was wrong. And what is it about New York and EMPTY places? A place like Birdland, in Chicago, on a Friday night, would be overflowing. And ear-splitting talkers of mundane nonsense would be asked to take it out of earshot. * * * Appendix 3: The ancestor of dotcoms So did you ever wonder how it came to be that sad smoldering dotcoms had so quickly engendered gross, overspecialized jobs? How did mere "plucky startups" bristle with managers who had never worked on the floor, for instance? Take it from a visitor who saw the insides--it derived from ... THE MEDIA. American TV stations actually have tech managers who have never held a camera. There is no dearth of people who leave at 5, or say "that's not my field", or "that's not my job". And these outfits may be sad, but they are not smoldering at all. Have you ever wondered why? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 13:59:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4JxZY7020831 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:59:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00425A7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:59:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3110787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:59:09 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Jx9301565 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:59:09 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:59:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:01:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you for setting aside your novel just for a little while. I'd like to know more about your shopping-the clothes, the gadgets. There is a Day 3, isn't there? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:15:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KF2Y7020957 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:15:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00425C76@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:14:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3112213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:14:39 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KEc304877 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:14:38 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-22.panax.com [65.114.190.22]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KEXt31140 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:14:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104150935.00b6ca90@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:14:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: rollicking fun in bookland In-Reply-To: <3DC6C8C7.599332CB@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:21 PM 11/4/2002 -0500, alyce wrote: >Life is good when we have days like this. From a friend in Boston: There was a time when I thought that book dealers were fairly intelligent people who liked to read, had a decent education, and probably a deep interest in literature, history, or some other bookish field. Since reading the accounts that you have passed on to us, it is clear that book-dealing, like almost every other field, has its share of dolts who are in it solely for the money or who can't figure out anything else to do. Well, hell, I guess they can't all be TV-news anchors. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:22:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KMIY7020995 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:22:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00425DB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:21:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:21:55 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KLn307561 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:21:50 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA28386 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:21:46 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C8BC738699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:21:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:21:45 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:01:43PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Thank you for setting aside your novel just for a little while. I'd like > to know more about your shopping-the clothes, the gadgets. There is a > Day 3, isn't there? Patience, my child. "Cresap is said to have lived to the age of 106" -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:23:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KN1Y7021003 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:23:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00425DCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:22:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3113804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:22:38 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KMb307745 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:22:38 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:22:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6D79E.1F607FF8@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:25:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: rollicking fun in bookland References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104150935.00b6ca90@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > There was a time when I thought that book dealers were fairly intelligent > people who liked to read, had a decent education, and probably a deep > interest in literature, history, or some other bookish field. That still is true of actual bookdealers. But what we have now is the ability for anyone at all to sell books about which they know nothing on ebay or amazon, even if they don't know that Shakespeare predated 1901. That is why life for the rest of us, whose profession it is, becomes difficult. We should not all be tarred with the same brush, but that is what's happening. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:26:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KQ2Y7021017 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:26:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00425E31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:25:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:25:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KPc308342 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:25:38 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:25:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6D857.EA252E65@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:28:07 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > "Cresap is said to have lived to the age of 106" > -- Yes. I come from sturdy stock. But I don't want to wait till I am 106 for an account of Day 3. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:28:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KSXY7021036 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:28:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00425EA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:28:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114338 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:28:10 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KS6308941 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:28:06 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6D8EF.19A32FCF@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:30:39 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: another book laugh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This bookseller drop-shipped the book for a customer. Did not know where it was going. Today he received this letter: U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Prisons 2425 So 200th Street SeaTac, WA 98189 This is notification to sender/publisher of RETURN of a publication. The Mail Room has returned the publication "Hacksaw - The Amazing Story of America's Great Escape Artists" in accordance with the Bureau's Program Statement in Incoming Publications (PS 5266.08) which states in part: "The warden may reject a publication if it is determined detrimental to the security, good order, or discipline of the institution or if it may facilitate criminal activity." The above named publication has been rejected because it facilitates the possibility of escape, and is not authorized in accordance with the Institutional policies. Sincerely, (sig) Warden -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:31:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KVXY7021078 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:31:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CC514@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:31:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3114579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:31:10 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KVA309492 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:31:10 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16210 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 4 Nov 02 15:31:06 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 4 Nov 02 15:31:01 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:30:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: another book laugh Message-ID: <3DC692AF.16984.1B690412@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC6D8EF.19A32FCF@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU *sniff sniff* I smell UL BrP > This bookseller drop-shipped the book for a customer. Did not know where > it was going. Today he received this letter: > > > U.S. Department of Justice > Federal Bureau of Prisons > 2425 So 200th Street > SeaTac, WA 98189 > > This is notification to sender/publisher of RETURN of a publication. > The Mail Room has > returned the publication "Hacksaw - The Amazing Story of America's > Great Escape > Artists" in accordance with the Bureau's Program Statement in Incoming > Publications (PS > 5266.08) which states in part: > > "The warden may reject a publication if it is determined detrimental to > the security, > good order, or discipline of the institution or if it may facilitate > criminal activity." > > The above named publication has been rejected because it facilitates the > possibility of > escape, and is not authorized in accordance with the Institutional > policies. > > Sincerely, > (sig) > Warden > > > -- > alyce cresap, books & ephemera > po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 > 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net > http://www.alybooks.com > charter member: IOBA > independent on-line booksellers association > selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:44:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KiiY7021151 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:44:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042608E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:44:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3115528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:44:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f61.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KiH311778 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:44:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:44:11 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:44:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:44:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 20:44:11.0654 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE102A60:01C28442] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'd never heard of this "Birdland". I don't know how long it's been there on 44th Street, but I'm thinking not long. Did you eat at Virgil's while you were in the neighborhood? Glad you enjoyed Barney Greengrass. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com >From: Tushar Samant >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: New York Day 2 >Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:49:50 -0600 > >My brother in law--I will call him CP from now on, in accordance >with his initials, and also in accordance with an in-joke between >my sister and me--CP called, and suddenly I was transported to >another world. He had been late to come home, so didn't call. >They had all gone to see "Oklahoma!"--front-row seats. > >It was a state-sponsored trip, and I guess the state department >doesn't mess around. I liked their itinerary. For instance, who >the hell gets to live with a Quaker family? But he did. > >So he was now at the UN headquarters and he would call me in the >afternoon. Etc etc. I was relieved about Oklahoma!, that's for >sure. Some ass had told CP that The Lion King was not to be missed, >and was pretty much the major reason to visit New York. I felt a >bit better about my chances of talking him out of it. On the other >hand, the note of shopping was stressed, which stressed me out. At >any rate, I put the phone down, and walked to the train, and got >off at 79th. > >It was a very beautiful day. Shooting a disdainful glance at Zabar's, >I walked to the River's Edge hotel, for no other reason than that >Dr Borkin had unwittingly endorsed the park beyond. I walked to the >park to look at the river, and, well, looked at the river, and read >a few more pages of Don Quijote. It is a hilarious book, by the way. >Any similar thing seems pathetic and pale compared to it. And very >few things seem dissimilar. This has all been said before, of course. >If you wish to read a story of the free spirit and the open road-- >throw out whatever you have and read this book. > >It was quiet, green and golden, with silent monoliths of mansions >rising behind and a blue river in front. A few boats later I >reluctantly got up. Couldn't take too much relaxation, I think, >with all that was going on. You know, inside. Or maybe it is >congenital. I felt I should walk around. "You make a great deal >of sense, Sancho", maybe the voice of hunger told me. My father >used to call me Sancho. > >I walked to Barney Greengrass (gain, courtesy of Marie). I liked >it. It is a civilized place. But I am not sure I should use the >big word "civilized" for a small meaning; I only mean it is simple, >a simply dressed guy can quickly get a table at 1 o'clock on a >cool, brilliant afternoon, it is filled but quiet and airy, the >waiter speaks simply, and the food is good. I ate eggs, whitefish >and salmon. It truly was excellent. > >Barney Greengrass is not a fake name; I think "Barney" runs the >place. He has a face which I associate with good food, in Chicago >at least. As usual, I had an added advantage--I could speak easily >to the "help". Must have been from Bangladesh--he certainly didn't >have a problem with someone rapaciously picking the fish clean. > >When I first came to America I ended up too often in chintzy- >upscale restaurants, where it seemed like they *disapproved* >of eating everything on your plate. And so, if I have any food- >related dimension to my memories, it is the gradual discovery >of quiet places where they like people who eat. Needless to say, >I haven't had to go on a separate search for food that hits the >spot. > >I walked across the park, along the reservoir, to the Guggenheim. >By now there wasn't the slightest question of getting lost; I >had gotten my autopilot. It is when you dissolve in the city. >Maybe it takes two or three trips. When you do, street and park, >water and land, people and benches come together. > >The lines were too damn long. I just ran into the shop and bought >a few small things, for friends. Museum stores are the best, right, >for trinkets? And I frankly didn't feel all that interested in the >Art of the Motorcycle or the evolution of Giorgio Armani's print >ads. We readers of Don Quijote go to the Frick instead. I made >that plan, walked around a bit and took the train back. > > * * * > >Reports of snipers, and panic or defiance, sounds of college girls >echoing round the floor (must have been a reunion), and a little >patch of light on the floor--it was all intermingled as I dozed >and waited for a call. > > * * * > >In the evening I finally met CP. It's been two years; also, he had >never seen me with a shaved head. Strange! Though maybe it's much >better put this way: I had never really gotten to know him. That >finally happened in New York. > >My fear had no basis, of course. He laughed when the subject of >The Lion King came up. Laughed, because we didn't know each other >so well that he could say screw that. And when I asked how he >would feel about Birdland, he agreed at once. So we walked--we >walked a lot--and he had some quite interesting stories too, from >India and from his trip here. I had a good time. And more importantly, >I knew my sister would be pretty happy to hear this ... > >Birdland had an as-you-expect kind of band; highly polished music, >but basically, should I say, Ellingtonian? It was great. Once upon a >time, I have read on liner notes, this place was a fount of invention, >and so we went. What's "place" anyway, they have relocated. I fed >him gumbo--with everything being new to him, food was not going to >be a problem--and I had catfish with greens. I had a great good time. >I asked him how he felt, and he said, six or seven hundred notes and >a good dinner, what was there to complain. Ha ha, excellent answer... >This was going to be blast. I told him all I could remember about the >place from my bookish reading, as we walked to his hotel. And I dropped >him off, took the train, had a couple of pts at Fitzers, and was fast >asleep shortly thereafter. > > * * * > >Appendix 1: My much-maligned brother-in-law > >Sister warning: May attach a lot of importance to how you > dress, don't be a dork. >Reality: NOT. He just thought *I* was like that. A natural > hypothesis in the absence of relevant information. > >Sister warning: Don't let him near any consumer crap, he > will shop till he drops. >Reality: Not consumer crap. GADGETS. What an insult to a > crucial difference ... And none bought anyway. Precisely > as it should be. > >A fervent appeal to sisters everywhere! > > * * * > >Appendix 2: The degradation of "Girls' Night Out" > >Just bitching ... time was--or was there ever a time--when a jazz >"lounge" would mean tough ch*ks. Like thrift stores, they are >practically one of the reasons one goes--they light up your heart >and leech out your bitterness just by being there. The party near >us was the opposite. And the fug of perfume was dense enough to >stick your fork into, and they talked ear-splittingly, above the >music. I contend that that was wrong. And what is it about New York >and EMPTY places? A place like Birdland, in Chicago, on a Friday >night, would be overflowing. And ear-splitting talkers of mundane >nonsense would be asked to take it out of earshot. > > * * * > >Appendix 3: The ancestor of dotcoms > >So did you ever wonder how it came to be that sad smoldering dotcoms >had so quickly engendered gross, overspecialized jobs? How did mere >"plucky startups" bristle with managers who had never worked on the >floor, for instance? Take it from a visitor who saw the insides--it >derived from ... THE MEDIA. American TV stations actually have tech >managers who have never held a camera. There is no dearth of people >who leave at 5, or say "that's not my field", or "that's not my job". >And these outfits may be sad, but they are not smoldering at all. >Have you ever wondered why? _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:53:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KrgY7021221 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:53:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CC762@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:53:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116194 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:53:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4KrJ313323 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:53:19 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA15963 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:53:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7150738699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:53:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:53:18 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021104205318.GA15948@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:44:11PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > I'd never heard of this "Birdland". Charlie Parker ... ? "Bird"? > I don't know how long it's been there on 44th Street, but I'm > thinking not long. Apparently not ... It had closed for a long time. They reopened recently. Kind of expensive now ... > Did you eat at Virgil's while you were in the neighborhood? No. Too much eating regardless ... Keep an eye open for further exciting developments. > Glad you enjoyed Barney Greengrass. Yes, thank you sweet thing ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 14:54:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4KsYY7021225 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:54:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004261B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:54:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:54:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Ks9313477 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:54:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6DEF5.A01F8DCA@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:56:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another book laugh References: <3DC692AF.16984.1B690412@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > *sniff sniff* > > I smell UL Could be. Don't know. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 15:00:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4L0KY7021305 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:00:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00426243@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:59:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3116792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:59:56 -0500 Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Kxu314411 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:59:56 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-003neomahp0220.dialsprint.net ([63.186.16.220]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188oKA-00019m-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:59:55 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:00:38 -0700 Subject: Re: Weird From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021104132614.0317b7e0@victoria.nb.no> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/4/2002 5:27 AM, Espen Ore at Espen.Ore@NB.NO wrote: >> You find it weird to read obituaries? I'd call that . >> It's not unusual for children or even young adults to ignore obituaries >> since they don't know as many people who are likely to show up in them. >> But that changes in mid life for most people, with the number of >> familiar names picking up speed at a frightening pace after a while. I guess I'm just , but I really don't know anyone older than me, except my ex! You may call it weird, but that's my situation at the moment. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 15:02:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4L2fY7021327 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:02:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CC8CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:02:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:02:18 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4L2H315109 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:02:17 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:02:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6E0F4.6D08A78A@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:04:52 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > I'd never heard of this "Birdland". I don't know how long it's been there on > 44th Street, but I'm thinking not long. I don't remember it, but then I have not been around midtown in 20 years. It seems to be a very big-time place, if you read the Googles. Birdland 315 West 44th Street (btwn. 8th and 9th) 212-581-3080 All show times: 9:00 and 11:00 P.M. (with early 5:30 tribute sets added to the Mon., Tues. and Fri. schedules). Music charge varies, $20-35. There is a $10 food/drink minimum per person at the tables. At the bar, the music charge includes one drink. Sundays belong to Arturo O'Farrill’s Afro-Cuban Jazz Big Band, Mondays have been reserved for the Toshiko Akiyoshi Jazz Orchestra featuring Lew Tabackin for the later sets, and now every Monday from 5:30 - 7:30pm - The Art Blakey Jazz Messenger's Revue perform. Tuesdays typically go to The Famous Duke Ellington Orchestra directed by Paul Mercer Ellington with early sets at 5:30 - 7:30 p.m. showcasing David Ostwald's Louis Armstrong Centennial Band. From Wednesday - Saturday expect the best in local and internationally touring artists. Just added: Every Friday from 5:30 - 7:30pm - Lew Anderson's All American Big Band. All will enjoy the excellent sightlines to the stage. -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 15:05:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4L5BY7021341 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:05:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CC90B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:04:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:04:47 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4L4l315728 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:04:47 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA22753 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:04:46 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7E91B38699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:04:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:04:46 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021104210446.GA16849@pobox.com> References: <3DC6E0F4.6D08A78A@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC6E0F4.6D08A78A@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 04:04:52PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > I don't remember it, but then I have not been around midtown in 20 > years. It seems to be a very big-time place, if you read the Googles. Yep ... on all sorts of liner notes, as I said. Now it seems to be a very conservative place, where you can take a "business associate" and his wife, I mean spouse. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 15:09:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4L9NY7021377 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:09:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042636A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:08:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3117818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:08:59 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4L8x316388 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:08:59 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA24875 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:08:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id BA4F138699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:08:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:08:58 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Maynor is really pretty simple Maynor is just 27 Maynor is well Maynor is one of only two players Maynor is standing Maynor is available for phone interviews Maynor is a citizen of the Lumbee nation Maynor is pregnant with another child Maynor is here representing us today Maynor is a constant threat Maynor is a graduate Maynor is back in black baby From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 15:16:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4LGUY7021434 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:16:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042640E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:16:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3118270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:16:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f185.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.185]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4LG6317508 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:16:07 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:15:58 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:15:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:15:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2002 21:15:58.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E7A8F30:01C28447] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: alyce cresap >Marie Ascher wrote: > > I'd never heard of this "Birdland". I don't know how long it's been >there on > > 44th Street, but I'm thinking not long. > >I don't remember it, but then I have not been around midtown in 20 >years. It seems to be a very big-time place, if you read the Googles. I should mention that I have heard of the old Birdland up in Harlem. I just didn't know that they had opened a Birdland in midtown. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 15:30:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4LU5Y7021531 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:30:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004265BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:29:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:29:42 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4LTf319624 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:29:41 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA18978 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 4 Nov 02 16:29:40 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 4 Nov 02 16:29:25 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:29:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Me play too: brother paul is too important for me not to find time brother paul is heading home brother paul is 16 brother paul is 63 years old brother paul is equally capable brother paul is asking everyone who has not made their commitment yet to do so as soon as possible brother paul is a parallel story brother paul is also older than him brother paul is living recklessly brother paul is cured from the snakebite brother paul is my best friend and practice partner brother paul is on a fast track brother paul is a writer brother paul is still living in ballybeg; he has two children brother paul is the photographer of the family brother paul is slightly more reserved brother paul is currently concocting bodger & grift brother paul is a wandering scholar with a zest for knowledge and a lust for life brother paul is tite brother paul is in the hall brother paul is also skeptical brother paul is referred to by others as "idiot" or "half wit From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:02:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4M2sY7021717 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:02:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004269CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:02:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3123183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:02:30 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4M2U326281 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:02:30 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H52NSF00.EFN for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:00:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC6EF80.9300857D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:06:56 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: another book laugh References: <3DC692AF.16984.1B690412@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > *sniff sniff* > > I smell UL =============================================== Autobiography of Hacksaw Jones, the jailhouse folk hero who has escaped from prisons, jails and chain gangs fourteen times in 20 years, returning behind bars only long enough to plot his next escape. biography-prisoners-United States From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:30:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4MUFY7021926 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:30:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CD368@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:29:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3124889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:29:51 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4MTp331558 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:29:51 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4MTpb15829 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:29:51 -0500 Received: from TWILD ([131.128.170.179]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id gA4MRUv31691 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:27:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:33:30 -0500 From: Terry Wild To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind Message-ID: <6828789.1036431210@TWILD> In-Reply-To: <3DC09F8C.3B1E206A@maynor.net> References: <3DC09F8C.3B1E206A@maynor.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi Natalie, A comment on 'roots' used in the geneology sense. I've quite often heard it in the phrase "set down some roots". "Put down" is sometimes used as well to indicate establishing a home. Terry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:41:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4MfSY7021976 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:41:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CD52B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:41:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:41:04 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Mf4301380 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:41:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.215]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104224243.RAFF15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6F77B.E30E604E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:40:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <20021104152117.8C8D67C10@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC694D9.C25234A7@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Can't remember all. The two Marie just mentioned. And a drive-through > liquor store. Never even heard of such a thing. I guess I'd call it a > drive-through liquor store. I call a drive-through liquor store a drive-through liquor store. > was born, so couldn't answer that, and I called my grandmother "Gram," > which was not a given choice. I called mine Bussy/Bussie. I think I usually spelled it Bussy, but she spelled it Bussie. That vowel is [U] -- as in "pussy." She got that name from my brother before I was born. All anybody can figure out about why he started calling her that was that her husband sometimes called her "Flossie" (her name was Florence) and that's what he was trying to say. Anyway, it stuck. She was never anything but Bussy to me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:46:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4Mk5Y7022037 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:46:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00426DBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:45:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:45:40 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Mje301872 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:45:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.215]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104224720.RDPI15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:47:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6F88F.67CF7117@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:45:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Query: What is a ? A lecturer? A student? What level? I would assume it to mean a student concentrating in a certain area -- i.e., majoring in it. And I would guess undergraduate. I noticed that that website was somebody's personal page, not a departmental page. Yep. An undergraduate: http://www.scottgolder.net/ Going backwards from the survey page leads you to his removed home page with a message saying to go to the above url. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:47:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4Ml2Y7022049 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:47:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00426DCE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:46:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126601 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:46:37 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Mkb301973 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:46:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:46:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:49:10 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > > > It looks like so much fun, she said wistfully, but I don't know how to play. There is no googlism on my computer. [sob] -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:51:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4MpCY7022068 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:51:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CD5B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:50:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126746 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:50:47 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Mol302365 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:50:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.215]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104225227.RHTO15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:52:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6F9C2.697CEEF5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:50:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > >Mumbledy peg. > > This is something you know? Is it a common thing? I think of it as commonly known, although I don't know that I've ever played it personally. I remember once saying about somebody that I was outraged when he seemed to be on the verge of playing mumblety peg on my coffeetable. It never occurred to me to think that that wouldn't be understood. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:52:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4MqaY7022077 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:52:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CD5D1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:52:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3126830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:52:12 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4MqC302550 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:52:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.215]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104225352.RIWQ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:53:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6FA17.F285045E@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:52:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. References: <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <20021029175319.B5D677C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <016001c27f77$a021ca40$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <4274284325.20021029114728@gailndan.com> <002a01c2801d$d5bc75a0$a8c6c0cb@redbox> <5.1.0.14.0.20021030102655.00b56028@mail.panax.com> <3DC06174.92F98870@maynor.net> <871966728.20021031073404@gailndan.com> <3DC1B99D.D9432640@maynor.net> <025501c28428$1afc8430$e2cfc0cb@redbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Red wrote: > NM> couple of countries and in a sport played throughout the world and > NM> culminating in the world's biggest sports event every summer. > > Which event are you talking about? I was talking about the World Cup, though I erroneously said it was every summer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:55:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4Mt0Y7022086 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:55:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CD623@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3127106 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:54:36 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4MsZ303026 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:54:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.215]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104225615.RKQJ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:56:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6FAA6.3B6E7663@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:54:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> <3DC65AA5.8160CC91@maynor.net> <20021104174245.GB20671@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > I can't think of any way in which an online > survey can be useful ... I can think of ways it might be useful -- like if maybe a surprisingly large number of responses for a certain usage were clumped in an unexpected location, one might go there and do real research to see what was going on. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 16:59:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4MxDY7022111 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:59:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00426ECC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:58:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3127257 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:58:47 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Mwj303409 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:58:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.215]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104230024.RODJ15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6FBA0.553484FB@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:58:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Translation please. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > using tampons at that time, but it would make sense to assume that it wasn't > until the mid-fifties that use became mainstream.* I wonder which age group was most likely to get into tampon-use first. What I'm thinking about is that my crowd started using them in the late '50s, which would perhaps be about right for Mississippi in relation to more avant-garde places. But we were teenagers. It may have been that older women used them earlier than teenagers. Then again, it may have been that teenagers used them earlier than older women. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:01:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4N1VY7022146 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:01:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CD663@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:01:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3127322 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:01:07 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4N17303682 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:01:07 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA24475 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:01:06 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 557A938699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:01:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:01:06 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021104230106.GA3446@pobox.com> References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:49:10PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > > > > > > > It looks like so much fun, she said wistfully, but I don't know how to > play. There is no googlism on my computer. Huh? Just go to , and type in a random name. Gets old fast, though ... Which is of course because it has absolutely no further features--a characteristic of "zany humor" sites. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:02:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4N2FY7022153 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:02:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CD66F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:01:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3127349 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:01:51 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4N1p303732 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:01:51 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA24818 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:01:50 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AE28D38699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:01:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:01:50 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey Message-ID: <20021104230150.GB3446@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> <3DC65AA5.8160CC91@maynor.net> <20021104174245.GB20671@pobox.com> <3DC6FAA6.3B6E7663@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC6FAA6.3B6E7663@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 04:54:30PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > I can't think of any way in which an online > > survey can be useful ... > > I can think of ways it might be useful -- like if maybe a surprisingly > large number of responses for a certain usage were clumped in an > unexpected location, one might go there and do real research to see what > was going on. I'd look at the server logs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:12:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NCiY7022238 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:12:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004270A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:12:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:08:33 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4N8X306204 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:08:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.143]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104231012.RXJU15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6FDE9.8CC9CF24@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:08:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > as we walked to his hotel. Well done, Tushykins. But I thought he was staying with a Quaker family? Or was that another part of the trip? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:15:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NFAY7022271 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:15:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CDAA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:14:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130692 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:14:46 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4NEj307162 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:14:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.143]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104231426.BKLI22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:14:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6FF60.762DC085@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:14:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Maynor is really pretty simple > Maynor is just 27 > Maynor is well > Maynor is one of only two players > Maynor is standing > Maynor is available for phone interviews > Maynor is a citizen of the Lumbee nation > Maynor is pregnant with another child > Maynor is here representing us today > Maynor is a constant threat > Maynor is a graduate > Maynor is back in black baby But you distorted the record: maynor is facing a first degree murder charge for leaving her children in a sweltering hot car this summer maynor is currently being held in jail without bond maynor is charged with two counts of felony murder maynor is being held at the oakland county jail without bond -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:17:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NHgY7022289 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:17:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042710F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:17:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:17:18 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4NHI307600 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:17:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.143]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104231659.BMMR22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC6FFF9.C2BA1417@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:17:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Never mind References: <3DC09F8C.3B1E206A@maynor.net> <6828789.1036431210@TWILD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Terry Wild wrote: > > Hi Natalie, > > A comment on 'roots' used in the geneology sense. I've quite often heard > it in the phrase "set down some roots". "Put down" is sometimes used as > well to indicate establishing a home. Thanks. I mailed the thing with the roots extracted. One problem re roots in this context was that none of the descendants, afaik, are close to that Smith County rooting place. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:19:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NJCY7022297 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:19:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042712F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:18:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3130993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:18:47 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4NIl307771 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:18:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.143]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104231828.BNRG22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:18:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC70052.E78E6D33@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:18:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > > > > > It looks like so much fun, she said wistfully, but I don't know how to > play. There is no googlism on my computer. What do you mean? What does it have to do with your own computer? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:20:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NK0Y7022302 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:20:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00427139@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:19:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:19:32 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4NJW307848 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:19:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.143]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021104231913.BODI22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7007F.67414A9B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:19:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Dialect Survey References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021103212825.03288c70@mail.istori.com> <3DC65AA5.8160CC91@maynor.net> <20021104174245.GB20671@pobox.com> <3DC6FAA6.3B6E7663@maynor.net> <20021104230150.GB3446@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > large number of responses for a certain usage were clumped in an > > unexpected location, one might go there and do real research to see what > > was going on. > > I'd look at the server logs. Well, yes. That would be the first thing to check. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:22:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NMVY7022319 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:22:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00427175@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:22:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:22:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4NM7308207 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:22:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-201.panax.com [63.163.41.201]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4NM2t08839 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:22:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104181723.009f1130@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:21:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > >Me play too: >brother paul is too important for me not to find time bonnie is coming bonnie is "not" a caring and very nice person bonnie is too valuable to put up with this turmoil bonnie is a benchmark which measures the performance of unix file system operations bonnie is a winner bonnie is a whore bonnie is absolutely obsessed with goalies of every sort especially eddie belfour bonnie is becoming extratropical and this is the last advisory bonnie is over the ocean bonnie is well educated bonnie is a gifted medium bonnie is beating her fists against the bed because she is railing against the ordinariness bonnie is hot bonnie is turned on by the speedy fun and danger promised by clyde bonnie is arrested for the first and only time bonnie is a pain --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:39:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NdoY7022438 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:39:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004272CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:39:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:39:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4NTP308798 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:29:25 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4NTKpY026993; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:29:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:29:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: bethany In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104181723.009f1130@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gA4NTP308799 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What more could one want? bethany is one of two bears commissioned bethany is sleeping on the big compfy couch alone in the big bethany is dead bethany is very much a new bethany is one of two bears commissioned by the bride and groom to give as bethany is a very progressive rural community with a proud past and high expectations for the future bethany is graced with older homes which have been refinished to reflect the cityÕs history bethany is people who gather to worship god from all walks of life and from all 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bethany is also committed to teaching in a collaborative bethany is like any other school bethany is just south of highland on riverside bethany is so good at recording her own experiences bethany is now in second grade and can read everything and also writes wonderful love notes to us in crayon bethany is excited to create new methods of improving the environment bethany is god bethany is one of hundreds of varied bethany is a catholic non bethany is a place name mentioned in several places in the new testament bethany is accredited by the joint commission on accreditation of healthcare organizations and the continuing care accreditation commission bethany is a 3rd grade teacher bethany is in the hands of bethany is a little girl bethany is committed to helping every student bethany is a catholic organization bethany is located in astoria bethany is a good church bethany is a strong believer in the power of prayer bethany is fantastic bethany is located across from the best western park plaza hotel bethany is big and tall and possesses a bigger than life aura but nursel is an undulating mini bethany is already standing on it bethany is a rural school located in southwestern rockingham county bethany is messing with angel's sleep bethany is actually quite unique bethany is a cell church bethany is covered in prayer bethany is located at the head of the wadi kharrar bethany is to have children fostered/adopted or placed in suitable care once they reach primary school age bethany is on bethany is bethany is one congregation that meets at two locations bethany is the 30 bethany is on 18th bethany is a small bethany is a daddy's girl bethany is bbear bethany is someone new http://www.googlism.com/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:44:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4NiKY7022455 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:44:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042731E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:43:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3132236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:43:55 -0500 Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Nht310589 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:43:55 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-004neomahp0501.dialsprint.net ([63.186.33.247]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188qss-00027a-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:43:54 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:44:34 -0700 Subject: Re: New York Day 2 From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DC6D857.EA252E65@valstar.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/4/2002 1:28 PM, alyce cresap at alybooks@VALSTAR.NET wrote: > Yes. I come from sturdy stock. But I don't want to wait till I am 106 > for an account of Day 3. > > alyce I hear you. Mine died just before her 100th birthday, and I don't even want to get *that old*. I'm really ready to go very soon, as this is more like excisting, not living, and death has never scared me. -- Theo> From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 17:57:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA4Nv6Y7022546 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:57:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004273D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:56:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3132707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:56:41 -0500 Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA4Nuf311833 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:56:41 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-004neomahp0501.dialsprint.net ([63.186.33.247]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188r5E-0005sb-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 15:56:40 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:57:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DC6FA17.F285045E@maynor.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/4/2002 3:52 PM, Natalie Maynor at natalie@MAYNOR.NET wrote: > I was talking about the World Cup, though I erroneously said it was every > summer. > You must be refering to (Dutch version) aka as soccer, My favorite too! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 18:01:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA501VY7022585 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:01:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CDD2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:01:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3133006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:01:07 -0500 Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.84]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5016312542 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:01:06 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-004neomahp0501.dialsprint.net ([63.186.33.247]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188r9V-0004gC-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:01:05 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:01:46 -0700 Subject: Re: Translation please. From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DC6FBA0.553484FB@maynor.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/4/2002 3:58 PM, Natalie Maynor at natalie@MAYNOR.NET wrote: > It may have been that > older women used them earlier than teenagers. I started using them in the mid fifties. I think they had been available since the late forties; in case you're interested :-) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 18:12:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA50C0Y7022633 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:12:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004274D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:11:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3133523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:11:32 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA50BW313712 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:11:32 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA22454 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:11:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B15A338699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:11:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:11:31 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021105001131.GA12377@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6FDE9.8CC9CF24@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC6FDE9.8CC9CF24@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:08:25PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Well done, Tushykins. But I thought he was staying with a Quaker > family? Or was that another part of the trip? Another part. That trip would probably be another 300-part account... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 18:13:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA50DIY7022638 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:13:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CDDEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:12:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3133552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:12:54 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA50Cs313814 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:12:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA22879 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:12:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A6BB838699; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:12:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:12:53 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105001253.GB12377@pobox.com> References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC6FF60.762DC085@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC6FF60.762DC085@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 05:14:40PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > > > > Maynor is really pretty simple > > Maynor is just 27 > > Maynor is well > > Maynor is one of only two players > > Maynor is standing > > Maynor is available for phone interviews > > Maynor is a citizen of the Lumbee nation > > Maynor is pregnant with another child > > Maynor is here representing us today > > Maynor is a constant threat > > Maynor is a graduate > > Maynor is back in black baby > > But you distorted the record: > > maynor is facing a first degree murder charge for leaving her children > in a sweltering hot car this summer > maynor is currently being held in jail without bond > maynor is charged with two counts of felony murder > maynor is being held at the oakland county jail without bond I was posting the less well known items. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 18:29:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA50TvY7022738 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:29:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CDEA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:29:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3133760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:29:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA50JW314593 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:19:32 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA50JUpY027518 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:19:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:19:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: concentrators Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU As it happens, we have concentrators at UT. Students majoring in any of the IDP (Interdisciplinary Programs) areas are listed as IDP majors - each is concentrating in a particular area - Linguistics, Judaic Studies, Cinema Studies, etc. We have not previously used the word as a noun - but if Hahvahd can do it, so can we. I shall inform our Lx students that they are henceforth Linguistics concentrators (even spellcheck likes it). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 18:34:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA50YUY7022777 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:34:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00427600@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:34:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3134363 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:34:05 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA50Y5316257 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:34:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.13]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105003544.UOEY15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:35:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC711F8.A973CB07@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:34:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: concentrators References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > As it happens, we have concentrators at UT. Students majoring in any of > the IDP (Interdisciplinary Programs) areas are listed as IDP majors - each Yep, here too. Our General Liberal Arts majors have concentrations, which I assume makes them concentrators. There are other kinds of concentrators here also, not just GLA. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 18:37:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA50bUY7022795 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:37:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042761F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:37:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3134416 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:37:06 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA50b5316475 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:37:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.13]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105003845.UQOE15934.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:38:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC712AC.849DA5A3@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 18:37:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Merde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Election Day Rain and scattered thunderstorms...with heavy rainfall by the afternoon. Highs in the mid 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 19:20:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA51KMY7023064 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:20:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004278EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:19:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3136925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:19:54 -0500 Received: from cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com [207.46.181.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA51Jr321628 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:19:53 -0500 Received: from computer ([65.128.188.253]) by cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:18:23 -0800 Message-ID: <00e501c28469$6bdeef00$fdbc8041@computer> From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:19:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2002 01:18:24.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CBA4CB0:01C28469] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tushar Samant" To: Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: New York Day 2 > My brother in law--I will call him CP from now on, in accordance > with his initials, and also in accordance with an in-joke between > my sister and me--CP called, and suddenly I was transported to > another world. He had been late to come home, so didn't call. > They had all gone to see "Oklahoma!"--front-row seats. > Some deleted. Excellent. Enjoyed every word. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:04:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5246Y7023326 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:04:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE446@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:03:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:03:04 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5233326398 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:03:03 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-35.panax.com [65.114.190.35]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5232t10496 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:03:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104210151.009f9870@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:02:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Merde In-Reply-To: <3DC712AC.849DA5A3@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Election Day > Rain and scattered thunderstorms...with heavy rainfall by the afternoon. > Highs in the mid 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 > percent. -- Natalie That's nothing. Here's ours: Election Day Occasional snow early...then partly cloudy. Total accumulation...3 to 6 inches. Highs in the lower 40s. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of snow 90 percent. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:13:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52DJY7023373 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:13:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00427CDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:12:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:12:53 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52Cr327511 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:12:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.170]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105021433.OZX28885.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:14:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC72920.C298AD40@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:12:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merde References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104210151.009f9870@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > That's nothing. Here's ours: > Election Day > Occasional snow early...then partly cloudy. Total accumulation...3 to 6 > inches. Highs in the lower 40s. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of > snow 90 percent. The Republicans are expected to win Maine anyway, though, aren't they? Hmm. I'm not sure why my "though" is in there. They're going to win here also, alas, rain or no rain. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:15:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52FOY7023405 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:15:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE4CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139558 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52Ew327663 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:14:58 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-35.panax.com [65.114.190.35]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52Eut12809 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:14:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104211311.009feec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:14:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Merde In-Reply-To: <3DC72920.C298AD40@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104210151.009f9870@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The Republicans are expected to win Maine anyway, though, aren't they? >Hmm. I'm not sure why my "though" is in there. They're going to win >here also, alas, rain or no rain. -- Natalie Susan Collins, the Republican senator, is expected to retain her seat. However, there is one very close race for House of Representatives. And it looks like we will have a Democratic governor instead of the Independent we have had for a long time. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:23:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52NqY7023443 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:23:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00427D96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3139945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:23:27 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52NQ328561 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:23:26 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.51]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H52ZVA02.9G8 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:21:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC72B65.CFE9F856@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 19:22:29 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merde References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104210151.009f9870@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Election Day > > Rain and scattered thunderstorms...with heavy rainfall by the afternoon. > > Highs in the mid 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 > > percent. -- Natalie Rain? RAIN? The only thing that could keep me from voting would be artillery fire. (And maybe not even that.) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:42:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52ghY7023549 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:42:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00427EDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:42:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3140914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:42:17 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52gH330643 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:42:17 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:42:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC730A2.41735AE@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:44:50 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: They're going fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We have decided to close our open shop in Sedalia, MO, however, we will continue our on-line business. The closing date is mid-December. Interlude Books Jerrie Jones & Eileen Talamantez, Prop. 308-B S. Ohio St. Sedalia, MO 65301 ------------------ alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:47:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52lgY7023631 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:47:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE699@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:47:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:47:17 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52lG331082 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:47:17 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:45:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7315D.2F30EFA@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:47:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> <20021104230106.GA3446@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Huh? Just go to , and type in a random > name. As I said, there is no googlism.com on my computer. Maybe it won't work with Netscape. I haven't tried IE. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:48:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52mNY7023641 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:48:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE69D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:47:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141105 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:47:57 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52lv331114 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:47:57 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC731B5.25E28CF2@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:49:25 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> <3DC70052.E78E6D33@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > What do you mean? What does it have to do with your own computer? I just get a blank screen. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:49:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52nBY7023647 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:49:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE6AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:48:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:48:45 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52mj331230 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:48:45 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:48:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC73215.2523D51C@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:51:01 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > I hear you. Mine died just before her 100th birthday, and I don't even want > to get *that old*. I'm really ready to go very soon, as this is more like > excisting, not living, and death has never scared me. Theo, I did not say I didn't want to be 106. I said I didn't want to wait that long for Tushar's next report installment. alyce > -- > Theo> -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:59:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52x2Y7023699 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:59:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE6E5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:58:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:58:36 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52wZ331916 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:58:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105030015.RULI3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:00:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC733D7.45265E09@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:58:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> <20021104230106.GA3446@pobox.com> <3DC7315D.2F30EFA@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > As I said, there is no googlism.com on my computer. Maybe it won't work > with Netscape. I haven't tried IE. It works fine with Netscape. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 20:59:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA52xXY7023703 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:59:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042803C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:59:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:59:07 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52x7331970 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:59:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105030046.RUZK3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC733F6.43E15712@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 20:59:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> <3DC70052.E78E6D33@maynor.net> <3DC731B5.25E28CF2@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > What do you mean? What does it have to do with your own computer? > > I just get a blank screen. Very strange. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:04:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA534JY7023743 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:04:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042808A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:03:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141536 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:03:52 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA533q332388 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:03:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.60]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105030532.RZMP3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:05:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC73513.29BE83F6@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:03:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> <20021104230106.GA3446@pobox.com> <3DC7315D.2F30EFA@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce is not stupid alyce is someone who was so fat that breathing was difficult alyce is thrust into a new world alyce is a highly sought alyce is an avid gardener alyce is your solution coming to you via Netscape -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:06:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA536sY7023765 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:06:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004280B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:06:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:06:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lb0vPfBbMtYkd2fMX+4YARGN6xkM60GK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA52uR331742 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:56:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5112FDE4 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D59D67C0D; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:56:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC7315D.2F30EFA@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 4, 2002 9:47:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:56:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105025626.D59D67C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Huh? Just go to , and type in a random > > name. > > As I said, there is no googlism.com on my computer. Maybe it won't work > with Netscape. I haven't tried IE. It works fine with Netscape. Even without the www. Are you sure you're spelling it right? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:10:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA53AXY7023781 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004280F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:10:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:10:07 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA53A7300408 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:10:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.78]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105031146.FUU5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:11:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC73687.9719930C@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:09:59 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC6A05C.16186.1B9E7092@localhost> <3DC6F966.CFEB1B4@valstar.net> <20021104230106.GA3446@pobox.com> <3DC7315D.2F30EFA@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have we done Tushar yet? tushar is here tushar is armpit deep in talent tushar is showing off tushar is rated evil so he's one step ahead tushar is bad according to your point of view tushar is awful tushar is in tushar is kiddish and often irritating tushar is tops tushar is this the type of example that our "glorious" leaders should be setting? tushar is a very personable and helpful programmer tushar is in line for a double crown -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:15:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA53FdY7023827 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:15:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00428148@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:15:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:15:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Ljz+8olKkqiffXQmaeddEjMCFn/oFiWG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA535D332505 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:05:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A425F2FDC3 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6FA5B7C10; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:05:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Googlism To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:05:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105030512.6FA5B7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Damn! These things are accurate! Karen karen is a massage therapist for horse and rider karen is home karen is a little slut karen is exposed in health and fitness magazine karen is a professional researcher karen is also an accomplished musician and has her own tribute to keyboard and guitar shows including artists such as carole king karen is currently participating in various business ventures and hopes to return to the tour part karen is experienced in providing advice for people of all backgrounds and situations karen is commissioned by annika Vhland to create 99 snowfalls karen is a strong karen is correct karen is becoming an expert at saving money and making our dollars stretch themselves to the limit karen is a friend who is there for you always karen is the "how to" specialist of the career portfolio karen is an amputee who is missing her right leg completely karen is a kind person karen is very special and caring karen is a member of lots of things karen is so precious for me karen is shown with a large gather of molten glass on the end of her punty karen is supportive through life karen is sitting in the wood bin beside her grandma and grandpa kawasaki's fireplace karen is still in danger karen is miss february 2002 karen is out of the office karen is the coolest karen is being an expert at saving money and making our dollars karen is famous karen is looking karen is open and willing to listen to criticism karen is interviewed for a computerworld canada cover story about the coalition against unsolicited commercial e karen is back posted on saturday karen is healed karen is out karen is speaking in an area near you karen is exceptional karen is head of the group From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:20:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA53KhY7023851 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:20:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE901@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:20:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:19:53 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA53Jr301598 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:19:53 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC73972.AF7FC60@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:22:26 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021105025626.D59D67C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > It works fine with Netscape. Even without the www. Are you sure you're > spelling it right? I was just clicking Tushar's link and it was blank. However, now there are many, and I have just given a few here, the last being the best: alyce is someone who was so fat that breathing was difficult alyce is thrust into a new world alyce is her own inspiration alyce is a poignant reminder of the intimate alyce is complaining that jane the midwife did not take her back as an apprentice alyce is the best person to work for alyce is not exempt from the cruelties of either side alyce is sitting by the keyboard monitoring this dispatch carefully alyce is delivering a baby alyce is a highly sought alyce is a quilter who lives and works in vermont alyce is neither nick’s nor lacroix’s child and neither would be able to sense her alyce is a student in the college of arts & science alyce is knowledgeable and committed to serving buyers and sellers alyce is from our first breeding of noodles x amra alyce is a veteran teacher with the hawaii department of education alyce is now ch alyce is now a life member of the african violet society of america and the dixie african violet society alyce is an avid gardener alyce is a homeless girl alyce is taken in by alyce is one of 18 children between the ages of 7 and 13 who have troubled family situations alyce is an avid collector of orchids alyce is a warm alyce is—is she me or someone i know? alyce is alyce alyce is an 11 y/o merle dane and moose is a 6 1/2 y/o fawn alyce is sure there can be no love in an arranged marriage alyce is a contemporary alyce is a program assistant and performs varied adminstrative duties using independent judgement related to daily operations alyce is waiting for bart alyce is shocked to discover that her true failure to please the midwife was in giving up alyce is a licensed clinical social worker and has more than ten years of experience working with families and children alyce is cool toward jerry alyce is a retired teacher alyce is not alone alyce is extremely committed to enhancing the quality of life of people living with cancer through peer support alyce is very depressed due to this new alyce is pining for his alyce is the main character of the story alyce is your solution alyce is survived by her husband keith alyce is a close friend to nick miles and the duboises alyce is a former associate professor alyce is a skilled html teacher alyce is a watercolor and liquid acrylic artist alyce is such a dynamic woman alyce is going to show us how to make a simple herb vinegar alyce is so tired alyce is the owner of partners in wellness alyce is a beautiful girl who is as devoted to me as i am to her alyce is assigned districts 7 alyce is an extremely hard worker and is always on top of everything she does alyce is the news alyce is conventionally beautiful and unconventionally brilliant From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:23:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA53NbY7023870 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:23:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00428205@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:23:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:23:11 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA53NB301979 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:23:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:23:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC73A34.80E269DC@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:25:40 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021105025626.D59D67C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC73972.AF7FC60@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Oh, jeez. I didn't mean to send the whole lot. I thought I'd cut it off at the point where I was the offspring of some noodles. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:37:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA53biY7023965 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:37:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CE9A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Cu9ghfxVMguPIH6XrQfOvAIBADFMyVg8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA53RF302322 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:27:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED3B2FDD2 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:27:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 95E287C11; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:27:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC73972.AF7FC60@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 4, 2002 10:22:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:27:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > It works fine with Netscape. Even without the www. Are you sure you're > > spelling it right? > > I was just clicking Tushar's link and it was blank. Hm. > However, now there > are many, and I have just given a few here, the last being the best: .... > alyce is the news > alyce is conventionally beautiful and > unconventionally brilliant Yes! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:37:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA53bvY7023969 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:37:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00428306@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:31 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA53bU303162 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:30 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA53bUb04015 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:30 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.104]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gA53alv04767 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:36:47 -0500 Message-ID: <011301c2847c$9202e6b0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104210151.009f9870@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DC72B65.CFE9F856@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Merde Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:36:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williams" > > > Election Day > > > Rain and scattered thunderstorms...with heavy rainfall by the afternoon. > > > Highs in the mid 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 > > > percent. -- Natalie > > Rain? RAIN? The only thing that could keep me from voting would be > artillery fire. (And maybe not even that.) > > JMW 'Know what you mean, JWilliams(son)... I've got the entire school committee lined up. There's no room for excommuniucators... When I go to the polls, I'm sure to let my kids know I'm carrying a stylish Glock, Model 36, in a single stack of .45 caliber. Enjoy our freedoms... I will mine... 'In life, 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 21:38:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA53cFY7023972 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:38:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042830B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3143327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:43 -0500 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA53bh303173 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:43 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.186.10959e44 (3890) for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:33 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <186.10959e44.2af896fd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 22:37:33 EST Subject: Gone To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jonathan Harris, who played characters as diverse as Dr. Smith in Lost in Space and Lucifer in Battlestar Galactica, died at the age of 87 of a blood clot in his heart. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 23:26:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA55QDY7024719 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:26:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00428CFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 0:25:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3154587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:25:45 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA55PT315787 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:25:29 -0500 Received: (qmail 9415 invoked by uid 417); 5 Nov 2002 05:25:28 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 5 Nov 2002 05:25:28 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.226]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:25:26 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c2848c$80808770$e2cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Ignore consolidated grandmother.. Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:03:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU BD> Most people I know with nicknames did not choose them - their > friends/relatives/enemies chose them. The nic part is fine,but does that not happen with regular names as well?Think Marilyn Monroe... Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 4 23:44:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA55i1Y7024910 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:44:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CF9B3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 0:43:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:43:34 -0500 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA55hX317406 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:43:34 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-001neomahp0376.dialsprint.net ([63.186.1.122]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188wUu-0000TI-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:43:32 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:44:11 -0700 Subject: Re: New York Day 2 From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DC73215.2523D51C@valstar.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/4/2002 7:51 PM, alyce cresap at alybooks@VALSTAR.NET wrote: > Theo, I did not say I didn't want to be 106. I said I didn't want to > wait that long for Tushar's next report installment. Broad grin :-) -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 00:00:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA560NY7025011 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:00:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00428ED3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 0:59:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:59:55 -0500 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA55xt318630 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:59:55 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-001neomahp0376.dialsprint.net ([63.186.1.122]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188wkk-0002I5-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:59:54 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:00:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DC73A34.80E269DC@valstar.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/4/2002 8:25 PM, alyce cresap at alybooks@VALSTAR.NET wrote: > Oh, jeez. I didn't mean to send the whole lot. I thought I'd cut it off > at the point where I was the offspring of some noodles. > -- > alyce Alyce is a might forgetful sometimes! Don't feel bad; happens to me too. I have problems with some words (quite ordinairy words) I know what I want to say; I can almost see it in front of me, (as if there were some kind of blackboard before me), but the word refuses to come out. But it doesn't happen when I write. -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 00:01:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5614Y7025018 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:01:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00428EF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 1:00:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155988 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 01:00:37 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA560a318977 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 01:00:36 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id AAA25841 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:00:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1C0FE38699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:00:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:00:35 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105060035.GA5855@pobox.com> References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021104181723.009f1130@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021104181723.009f1130@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Borkin is a brilliant doctor Borkin is the 65 Borkin is out for blood Borkin is sitting astride a chair in the middle of the room Borkin is Borkin is the successful scam artist I suck I truly suck so very much From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 00:27:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA56R2Y7025382 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:27:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040CFB4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 1:26:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3156505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 01:26:34 -0500 Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA56QY320612 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 01:26:34 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-001neomahp0376.dialsprint.net ([63.186.1.122]) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 188xAX-0005bC-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:26:33 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:27:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20021105001253.GB12377@pobox.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/4/2002 5:12 PM, Tushar Samant at scribble@POBOX.COM wrote: > maynor is facing a first degree murder charge for leaving her children >> in a sweltering hot car this summer >> maynor is currently being held in jail without bond >> maynor is charged with two counts of felony murder >> maynor is being held at the oakland county jail without bond You made the news in Colorado too, but of course I never knew that was you. could it be you're trying to put one over us? (I'm not sure that's the right expression) -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 03:07:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA597eY7026307 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 03:07:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042976D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 4:07:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3161753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:07:00 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5970302953 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:07:00 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HHHV>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:05:54 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HHH4; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:05:51 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021105100532.032087f0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:05:51 +0100 Subject: Re: Weird In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021104132614.0317b7e0@victoria.nb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:00 04.11.2002 -0700 skrev Theodora Groothof: >on 11/4/2002 5:27 AM, Espen Ore at Espen.Ore@NB.NO wrote: > >>> You find it weird to read obituaries? I'd call that . >>> It's not unusual for children or even young adults to ignore obituaries >>> since they don't know as many people who are likely to show up in them. >>> But that changes in mid life for most people, with the number of >>> familiar names picking up speed at a frightening pace after a while. > >I guess I'm just , but I really don't know anyone older than >me, except my ex! You may call it weird, but that's my situation at the >moment. I didn't write any of this. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 03:19:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA59JVY7026372 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 03:19:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004297CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 4:19:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3161876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:19:02 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA59J2303699 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:19:02 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HHN5>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:19:00 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HHNY; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:18:58 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021105101842.03ec6338@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:18:57 +0100 Subject: Re: New York Day 2 In-Reply-To: <00e501c28469$6bdeef00$fdbc8041@computer> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 20:19 04.11.2002 -0500 skrev Alec D. Plotkin: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tushar Samant" >To: >Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:49 PM >Subject: New York Day 2 > > >> My brother in law--I will call him CP from now on, in accordance >> with his initials, and also in accordance with an in-joke between >> my sister and me--CP called, and suddenly I was transported to >> another world. He had been late to come home, so didn't call. >> They had all gone to see "Oklahoma!"--front-row seats. >> > >Some deleted. > >Excellent. Enjoyed every word. Ditto. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 03:51:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA59p6Y7026518 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 03:51:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D01BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 4:50:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3162295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:50:38 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA59ob305772 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:50:37 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA59pV517442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:51:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:51:31 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021105105131.A17425@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 02:21:45PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = "Cresap is said to have lived to the age of 106" = -- Oh, this is wonderful. mandell is extraordinarily skillful in dealing with extremely complex concepts with great subtlety and in describing their operation with clarity of precision From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 04:13:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5ADYY7026624 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 04:13:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D022B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 5:13:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3162477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:13:05 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5A35306466 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:03:05 -0500 Received: from jeilcp.com ([211.196.63.141]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA5A2xm32722 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:03:01 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:03:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200211051003.gA5A2xm32722@pasta.cc.uga.edu> From: jeil To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu Subject: (±¤°í)"¾÷°èÃÖÃÊ »çÀ̹öÇ÷¡³Ê ¸ðÁý" Reply-To: ksw@jeilcp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ks_c_5601-1987 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 05:45:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5BjPY7027059 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:45:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00429B41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 6:44:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3164962 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:44:55 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Bit313522 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:44:55 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-122.panax.com [65.114.190.122]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Biqt03525; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:44:52 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105064325.009f1850@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 06:44:40 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Boo hoo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So far not a flake. Not even a flurry. I was really looking forward to waking up to a world gone white: ..Winter Weather Advisory is cancelled... significant precipitation will remain east of the area...thus the Winter Weather Advisory has been cancelled for this morning. Some light rain or snow will change to light snow with little or no snow accumulation expected this morning. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 05:53:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5BrIY7027091 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:53:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00429B4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 6:52:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119210 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:52:49 -0500 Received: from imf24bis.bellsouth.net (mail024.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Bqm313993 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:52:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.218]) by imf24bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105115258.YWFR1154.imf24bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7B10B.AAEDA077@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:52:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Birthday Boys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We missed Alan's bday Sunday!! It's already JMW's bday! BHB,A, and HB,JMW!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 05:56:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5BulY7027111 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 05:56:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00429B53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 6:56:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:56:17 -0500 Received: from imf24bis.bellsouth.net (mail024.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5BuH314190 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:56:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.218]) by imf24bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105115627.YYMS1154.imf24bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:56:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 05:56:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting: words-l is a mistake often made by those first exploring the bounties of the listservs http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=words-l&type=1 -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 06:10:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5CAkY7027193 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:10:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00429C03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 7:10:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3119694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:10:17 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail008.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5CAG331333 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:10:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.43]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105121156.VOEJ15021.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:11:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7B523.3BE76DAC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 06:10:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Boo hoo References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105064325.009f1850@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You can have some of our precipitation, although I'm not sure you want it. I don't remember any fall of my life when we've had this much rain. It's pouring today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 07:19:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5DJcY7027523 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:19:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D097A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 8:19:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122169 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:19:08 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5DJ7306331 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:19:07 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA5DK2S17789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:20:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:20:02 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:56:11AM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:56:11AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: = Interesting: = = words-l is a mistake often made by those first exploring the bounties of = the listservs = http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=words-l&type=1 = Oh, this needs the whole thing: In respectful response: WORDS-L is a mistake often made by those first exploring the bounties of the LISTSERVs, a bog of self-reference which makes SBRHYM-L look admirable. Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:06:55 Juniper Sage did we know her? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 07:26:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5DQ1Y7027540 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:26:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00429E61@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 8:25:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:25:31 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5DPU307160 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:25:30 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04871 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 08:25:31 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 08:25:11 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:25:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <3DC78063.1262.1F0984FA@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:56:11AM -0600 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >...a bog of self-reference... I LOVE this phrase BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 07:28:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5DSSY7027547 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:28:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00429E7B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 8:27:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3122534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:27:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5DRw307487 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:27:58 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-35.panax.com [63.163.41.35]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5DRut24286 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:27:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105082705.009ef0b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:27:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC78063.1262.1F0984FA@localhost> References: <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >...a bog of self-reference... > >I LOVE this phrase >BrP Me too! Let's get it on the Acadiafest shirt ! Are you going to do a shirt design for us Mem? Please. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 07:46:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5DkrY7027628 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:46:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00429F93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 8:46:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3123576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:46:23 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5DkM310488 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:46:22 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:46:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7CC45.B72E43BC@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:48:53 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> <20021105105131.A17425@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar wrote: > = "Cresap is said to have lived to the age of 106" > = -- > The funny thing about this is that I didn't realize it was a joke thing until much later. Thomas Cresap *was* said to have lived to the age of 106, although actually it was only 101. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 07:48:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5DmwY7027669 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:48:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D0C49@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 8:48:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3123753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:48:28 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5DmS310857 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:48:28 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:48:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7CCC3.87EAA508@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 08:50:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Birthday Boys References: <3DC7B10B.AAEDA077@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > We missed Alan's bday Sunday!! It's already JMW's bday! > I hate missing birthdays. It is Not Right. Happy day and year to come to JMW and (belatedly) to Alan. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 08:01:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5E1WY7027740 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:01:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042A27B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:00:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3124701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:00:56 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5E0ui12851 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:00:56 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-20.panax.com [63.163.41.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5E0st30698 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:00:55 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105085905.00b36c70@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:00:16 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:20 PM 11/5/2002 +0100, steph wrote: >On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:56:11AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >= Interesting: >= >= words-l is a mistake often made by those first exploring the bounties of >= the listservs >= http://www.googlism.com/index.htm?ism=words-l&type=1 >= > >Oh, this needs the whole thing: > >In respectful response: WORDS-L is >a mistake often made by those first exploring the bounties of the >LISTSERVs, a bog of self-reference which makes SBRHYM-L look >admirable. > >Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:06:55 >Juniper Sage > >did we know her? Wonderful! The Words-L Experience: Slogging through the bog of self-reference. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 08:26:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5EQIY7027879 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:26:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D11DD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:25:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3125920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:25:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:zPXZHSTTBx/NwJM8MUMFYE6+p90TpOHE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5EFli15945 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:15:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F542FE33 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 95D187C09; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:15:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Boo hoo In-Reply-To: <3DC7B523.3BE76DAC@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 5, 2002 6:10:11 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:15:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105141546.95D187C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > You can have some of our precipitation, although I'm not sure you want > it. I don't remember any fall of my life when we've had this much > rain. It's pouring today. Piker. We've been raining for 4 days, and there's flooding everywhere. My plants are very happy. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 08:29:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5ETtY7027900 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:29:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D12F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:29:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3127843 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:29:24 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5ETOi20724 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:29:24 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA5EUKe17943 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:30:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:30:20 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021105153020.A17929@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> <20021105105131.A17425@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC7CC45.B72E43BC@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DC7CC45.B72E43BC@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:48:53AM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:48:53AM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: = Tushar wrote: = = > = "Cresap is said to have lived to the age of 106" = > = -- = > = The funny thing about this is that I didn't realize it was a joke thing = until much later. Thomas Cresap *was* said to have lived to the age of = 106, although actually it was only 101. = It's only kind of a joke thing. I put Pat's last name in there and got a hit that was obviously his brother. Oddly enough, his father is more "famous" but googlism doesn't get him because his hits aren't in the format of "name is". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 08:37:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5EbHY7027958 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:37:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042A9A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:36:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128760 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:36:46 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Eaki23377 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:36:46 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:36:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7D815.8E258031@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:39:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105085905.00b36c70@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Slogging through the bog of > self-reference. Then I suggest that the July 2003 event be called: Bog Slog alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 08:39:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5EdDY7027968 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:39:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D1407@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:38:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3128870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:38:42 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Ecgi23843 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:38:42 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust190.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.192]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC7D886.C18D359F@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:41:10 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> <20021105105131.A17425@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC7CC45.B72E43BC@valstar.net> <20021105153020.A17929@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > It's only kind of a joke thing. Ah. Then there must be a famous Alyce who is a midwife, because there were so many midwife things on mine? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 08:41:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5EfaY7027983 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:41:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D145A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 9:40:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3129082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:40:47 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Eeki24424 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:40:47 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-24.panax.com [65.114.190.24]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Eejt06487 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:40:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105093944.009f72f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:40:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC7D815.8E258031@valstar.net> References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105085905.00b36c70@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >"clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > Slogging through the bog of > > self-reference. > >Then I suggest that the July 2003 event be called: >Bog Slog --alyce Get a grip, alyce. The event already has a name. And will not have this beautiful island and it's national park referred to as a bog. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 09:02:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5F2TY7028105 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:02:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042ACF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:01:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:01:58 -0500 Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA5F1vi29201 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:01:57 -0500 Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007) id 3D88F3F1001CCFBD for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:57:49 -0600 Message-ID: <004601c284da$9852dee0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: JMW ... Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:49:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id gA5F2TY7028105 Here's a WHORISH-like Happy Birthday to YOU! AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 09:05:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5F5hY7028126 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:05:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042AD58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:05:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3131265 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:05:12 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5F5Bi29969 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:05:11 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA5F67918137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:07 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105160607.B17929@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net>; <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC78063.1262.1F0984FA@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DC78063.1262.1F0984FA@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:25:08AM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: = >...a bog of self-reference... = = = I LOVE this phrase = = = BrP That was the point. Unfortunately this author seems to have spent most of their time on fnord-l. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 09:43:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5FhCY7028428 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:43:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042B1F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:42:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3134118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:42:40 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Fgdi04600 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:42:40 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA5FhaX18252 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:43:36 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:43:36 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105164336.A18249@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net>; <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC78063.1262.1F0984FA@localhost> <20021105160607.B17929@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021105160607.B17929@yoccoz.multinix.com>; from stevie@multinix.com on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:06:07PM +0100 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:06:07PM +0100, steph wrote: = On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: = = >...a bog of self-reference... = = = = = = I LOVE this phrase = = = = = = BrP = = That was the point. Unfortunately this author seems to have = spent most of their time on fnord-l. So I've traced down someone who seems to have known who this Juniper Sage is. (A librarian, they're all librarians, in the beginning the internet was techies. Then came the librarians.) We'll see what I get. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 09:43:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5FhuY7028444 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:43:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042B205@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:43:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3134170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:43:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5FhPi04772 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:43:25 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-60.panax.com [63.163.41.60]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5FhOt20140 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:43:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105104207.00a01270@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:43:11 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: need an exorcist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I came home from voting to find that George W. Bush had left a message on my answering machine. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 09:53:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5FrjY7028540 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:53:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042B358@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:53:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3134162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:53:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5FhEi04734 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:43:14 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA5FhApY030566 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:43:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:43:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Birthday Boys In-Reply-To: <3DC7B10B.AAEDA077@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >We missed Alan's bday Sunday!! It's already JMW's bday! > >BHB,A, and HB,JMW!! Yes1 Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 09:55:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5Ft1Y7028551 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:55:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042B388@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:54:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3134247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:54:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:kFWEGFqqU//uCttFrv2zOHvvJxLc7PbD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5FiTi05000 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:44:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71A52FE34 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A983F7C0F; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:44:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105104207.00a01270@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 5, 2002 10:43:11 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:44:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105154428.A983F7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I came home from voting to find that George W. Bush had left a message on > my answering machine. I *hate* this fucking voicemail political spam. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 10:08:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5G8fY7031802 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:08:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D1ED5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:08:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3136590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:08:09 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5G89i11027 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:08:09 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H541MU02.ZLE for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:56:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC7EB4E.D3F235D0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:01:18 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: JMW ... References: <004601c284da$9852dee0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Here's a WHORISH-like Happy Birthday to YOU! Woo-HOO! My favorite kind! Thank you! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 10:22:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5GMFY7000461 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:22:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D2047@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:21:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3137020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:21:43 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jdNsRtnShtXkLqesZCOInVDy//xAXgMW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5GBhi11972 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:11:43 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C0E2FE58 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:11:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CB3837C15; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:11:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: JMW ... In-Reply-To: <3DC7EB4E.D3F235D0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 5, 2002 9: 1:18 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:11:42 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105161142.CB3837C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > > Here's a WHORISH-like Happy Birthday to YOU! > > Woo-HOO! My favorite kind! Thank you! :) A non-whorish HBD from me--only because I don't have a t-shirt. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 10:30:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5GUgY7000568 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:30:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042B7DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:30:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3138477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:30:11 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5GUAi15587 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:30:10 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08447 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 11:30:08 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 11:29:50 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:29:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: JMW ... Message-ID: <3DC7ABA5.22321.1FB27E0F@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021105161142.CB3837C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC7EB4E.D3F235D0@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 5, 2002 9: 1:18 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > :) A non-whorish HBD from me--only because I don't have a t-shirt. > > Karen blatant trolling ! HBD from me too JMW BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 10:41:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5GfdY7000646 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:41:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042B8F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:41:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3138526 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:41:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Dyz/mBJ6XgV2M5yWE2RN5zWp4PgooCn0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5GV6i15716 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:31:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF6E2FE31 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EFCFF7C10; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:31:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: JMW ... In-Reply-To: <3DC7ABA5.22321.1FB27E0F@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 5, 2002 11:29:41 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 08:31:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105163105.EFCFF7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > > :) A non-whorish HBD from me--only because I don't have a t-shirt. > > > > Karen > > blatant trolling ! I tried subtle trolling and it didn't work!!! Pathetic, whorish Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 10:52:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5Gq0Y7000755 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:52:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D2408@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:51:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3140665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:51:28 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5GpSi20955 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:51:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA5GpPX27889 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:51:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC7F70D.B2A82513@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:51:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:06:55 > Juniper Sage > > did we know her? I don't remember Juniper. Wonder what she'd think of us now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 10:59:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5GxRY7000784 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:59:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042BB6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:58:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3141301 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:58:55 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Gwti22313 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:58:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA5GwmX01051 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:58:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DC7F8C8.B28195A4@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:58:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Birthday Boys References: <3DC7B10B.AAEDA077@maynor.net> <3DC7CCC3.87EAA508@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I hate missing birthdays. It is Not Right. Happy day and year to come to > JMW and (belatedly) to Alan. It's such a dilemma -- wanting JMW to have a very happy birthday, yet knowing that if he gets what he wants for his birthday, the country will have a sad political future. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 11:12:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5HBxY7000893 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:11:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D265D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:11:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3142344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:11:27 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5HBQi24559 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:11:26 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA5HCNY18490 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:12:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:12:23 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105181223.A18479@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC7F70D.B2A82513@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DC7F70D.B2A82513@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:51:25AM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:51:25AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: = steph wrote: = = > Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:06:55 = > Juniper Sage = > = > did we know her? = = I don't remember Juniper. Wonder what she'd think of us now. I am doing research. I have found a hopefully up to date email address of someone who seems to know him (a Bill Anderson, who was once a librarian at Emory), and have asked of his whereabouts. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 11:44:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5HihY7002176 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:44:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042C065@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:43:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3145005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:43:58 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f187.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.187]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Hhvi30482 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:43:57 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:43:52 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:43:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 12:43:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2002 17:43:52.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7C318B0:01C284F2] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: steph >= I don't remember Juniper. Wonder what she'd think of us now. > >I am doing research. I have found a hopefully up to date email >address of someone who seems to know him (a Bill Anderson, who >was once a librarian at Emory), and have asked of his >whereabouts. Maybe Emily knows -- he used a SUNY Stony Brook address around the time that Emily was there. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 11:57:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5HvoY7002251 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:57:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D2AEE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:57:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3146076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:57:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5HvHi00324 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:57:17 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5472X03.CNI for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:54:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC806E5.65245357@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:59:01 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Birthday Boys References: <3DC7B10B.AAEDA077@maynor.net> <3DC7CCC3.87EAA508@valstar.net> <3DC7F8C8.B28195A4@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You credit me with far too much altruism. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 12:17:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5IHEY7002369 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:17:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042C418@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:16:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3147010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:16:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Wumi8lmSIumQFjzLUgMWXHqiU1RBCO5B@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5I6gi02206 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:06:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1136B2FE6C for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BEA027C0C; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:06:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC7F70D.B2A82513@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 5, 2002 10:51:25 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:06:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105180641.BEA027C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I don't remember Juniper. Wonder what she'd think of us now. How did Red find us? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 12:23:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5INHY7002432 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:23:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D2DAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:22:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:22:45 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5IMii05080 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:22:44 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA04267 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:22:44 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4913638699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:22:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:22:44 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021105182244.GA16368@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> <20021105105131.A17425@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021105105131.A17425@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:51:31AM +0100, steph wrote: > = > = "Cresap is said to have lived to the age of 106" > = -- > > Oh, this is wonderful. > > mandell is extraordinarily skillful in dealing with extremely > complex concepts with great subtlety and in describing their > operation with clarity of precision That was some good freestyling, Mandell From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 12:25:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5IPtY7002485 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:25:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042C4E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:25:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:25:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5IPJi05398 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:25:19 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA06048 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:25:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0C15138699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:25:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:25:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105182517.GB16368@pobox.com> References: <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105082705.009ef0b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105082705.009ef0b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:27:44AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > >...a bog of self-reference... > > > >I LOVE this phrase > > Me too! Let's get it on the Acadiafest shirt ! Yeah, let's further bog up the boggiest bog there is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 12:26:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5IQeY7002492 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:26:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042C4F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3148391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5IQ7i05527 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA06586 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:26:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id EBD7638699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:26:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:26:06 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105182606.GC16368@pobox.com> References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC78063.1262.1F0984FA@localhost> <20021105160607.B17929@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021105164336.A18249@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021105164336.A18249@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:43:36PM +0100, steph wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:06:07PM +0100, steph wrote: > = On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > = = >...a bog of self-reference... > = = > = = > = = I LOVE this phrase > = = > = = > = = BrP > = > = That was the point. Unfortunately this author seems to have > = spent most of their time on fnord-l. > > So I've traced down someone who seems to have known who this > Juniper Sage is. (A librarian, they're all librarians, in the > beginning the internet was techies. Then came the librarians.) > We'll see what I get. Is she cute? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 12:38:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5IcEY7002545 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:38:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042C633@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:37:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:37:34 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5IbYi07541 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:37:34 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16572 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 13:37:33 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 13:37:19 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:37:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <3DC7C985.22971.2027309E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021105182517.GB16368@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105082705.009ef0b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:27:44AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > > >...a bog of self-reference... > > > > > >I LOVE this phrase > > > > Me too! Let's get it on the Acadiafest shirt ! > > Yeah, let's further bog up the boggiest bog there is. Bog znaiet ! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 12:39:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5Id9Y7002552 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:39:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D2F47@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:38:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3149281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:38:37 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Icai07798 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:38:36 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA5IdYT18729 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:39:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:39:33 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 2 Message-ID: <20021105193933.A18680@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <3DC6D227.C7A92BF4@valstar.net> <20021104202145.GB9520@pobox.com> <20021105105131.A17425@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021105182244.GA16368@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021105182244.GA16368@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:22:44PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:22:44PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:51:31AM +0100, steph wrote: = > = = > = "Cresap is said to have lived to the age of 106" = > = -- = > = > Oh, this is wonderful. = > = > mandell is extraordinarily skillful in dealing with extremely = > complex concepts with great subtlety and in describing their = > operation with clarity of precision = = That was some good freestyling, Mandell Thanks, Samant. You know what? It's pretty nice to know that except for Nana, my dad, and my siblings, everyone else with the last name of Mandell is not a close relative. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 13:39:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5JdPY7003992 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:39:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042CD66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:38:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3154154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:38:52 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Jcqi19254 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:38:52 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id VAA14968 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:38:50 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA14885 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:38:49 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:37:41 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, I cannot understand, yet, where these googlisms are taken from, but here are some of mine: "sarv is trusted by 15 members" - meebers, I hope "sarv is known by his alter ego 'fat [...?]" "sarv is always in teine sahtel" Hmm... "teine sahtel" means "another/the other drawer". Is there something I must take into account? Then there is something said in Dutch "sarv is not available" -- as to this service, Google seems to be only too right I hope I didn't take off all the fun from Tushar who seemed to be the one who picked and chose googlisms. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 13:41:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5JfUY7004005 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:41:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D377C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:40:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3154272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:40:57 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Jevi19604 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:40:57 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust216.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.218]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:40:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC81F51.18FAA1E8@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:43:13 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: voting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Strange. Always we have voted at the town hall. I just went to the town hall where there were no cars--not a soul around. There was a crayoned sign hanging on a string on a post saying "Voting at Activity Building." So, I went back down the road a bit and arrived at the Activity Building. There was absolutely no sign of voting. I mean, usually there are blue signs that say "Polling Place" and then those placards that say "No electioneering withing X feet." Nada. There are no windows, so that you could see if anyone was in there. There is no big front door, only sort of a small door on the side near the parking lot, so I went in there and there were the election ladies. But no signs at all. Why? There were only about four cars, too, so you wouldn't think, "Oh! I think I will go where all the traffic is." Anyway, we have two districts--I was #169 in District 1. Don't know how many have voted in District 2. I suspect that many people will not vote because they won't know where to go. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 13:47:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5JlqY7004080 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:47:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042CEB3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:47:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3154779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:47:19 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5JlJi20719 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:47:19 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust216.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.218]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:47:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC820DC.1184B391@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:49:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Hi, > Hi! It is about time that you returned. Please give us a report on all that you have done during your absence. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 13:56:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5JuowA000649 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:56:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042CFD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:56:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:56:49 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Juni22587 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:56:49 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA5JumR09404 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:56:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c284fd$5b99e5c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC81F51.18FAA1E8@valstar.net> Subject: Re: voting Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:58:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> Anyway, we have two districts--I was #169 in District 1. Don't know how > many have voted in District 2. I suspect that many people will not vote > because they won't know where to go. > -- > alyce I just came home from voting. I vote at a church on a pominent corner on a major street leading out of the city. There were no cars in the parking lot, except about 3 for the ballot ladies. I was the only voter there. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:00:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5K0iwA000929 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:00:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D3A9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:00:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3156092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:00:44 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5K0ii23372 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:00:44 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA26668 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:00:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9373838699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:00:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:00:43 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105200043.GB21359@pobox.com> References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:37:41PM +0200, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Hi, > > I cannot understand, yet, where these googlisms are taken from, but here > are some of mine: > > "sarv is trusted by 15 members" - meebers, I hope > > "sarv is known by his alter ego 'fat [...?]" > > "sarv is always in teine sahtel" Hmm... "teine sahtel" means > "another/the other drawer". Is there something I must take into account? > > Then there is something said in Dutch > > "sarv is not available" -- as to this service, Google seems to be only > too right > > I hope I didn't take off all the fun from Tushar who seemed to be the > one who picked and chose googlisms. I have been injured badly, but I'll survive ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:05:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5K52wA001038 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:05:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D3B23@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:05:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3155556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:05:02 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Kt9egG+Geo0isPClGUVqKhGnd0RONiRN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Jt2i22265 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:55:02 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872822FE8C for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:55:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D36FE7C11; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC81F51.18FAA1E8@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 5, 2002 2:43:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:54:58 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105195459.D36FE7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Building. There was absolutely no sign of voting. I mean, usually there > are blue signs that say "Polling Place" and then those placards that say > "No electioneering withing X feet." Nada. There are no windows, so that > you could see if anyone was in there. There is no big front door, only > sort of a small door on the side near the parking lot, so I went in > there and there were the election ladies. But no signs at all. Why? > There were only about four cars, too, so you wouldn't think, "Oh! I > think I will go where all the traffic is." Did you ask them why? > Anyway, we have two districts--I was #169 in District 1. Don't know how > many have voted in District 2. I suspect that many people will not vote > because they won't know where to go. My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely bizarre. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:09:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5K9YwA001118 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:09:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042D197@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:09:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3156830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:09:33 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5K9Xi24997 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:09:33 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust216.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.218]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:09:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC82611.71E91E47@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:12:01 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105195459.D36FE7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Did you ask them why? No. I didn't realize what was wrong with the picture until I got home. It was cold and I just wanted to get back home. > > > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > bizarre. Boundaries have to fall somewhere. Somebody on the redistricting commmittee figured out carefully who s/he wanted to be in your district and the other one. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:13:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KD2wA001158 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:13:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042D1F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:13:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3157067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:13:02 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KD1i25558 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:13:02 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07102 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 15:13:00 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 15:12:26 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:12:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: voting Message-ID: <3DC7DFD2.19520.16EBCA5@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021105195459.D36FE7C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC81F51.18FAA1E8@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 5, 2002 2:43:13 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > bizarre. > > Karen Why? The line hasta be somewhere. Now, if the person 5 houses up the street is also in a different precinct... BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:16:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KGowA001198 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:16:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042D278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:16:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3157436 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:16:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KGni26300 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:16:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-20.panax.com [63.163.41.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KGlt12579 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:16:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105151231.00b52d10@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:16:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <000801c284fd$5b99e5c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <3DC81F51.18FAA1E8@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:58 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: >There were no cars in the parking lot, >except about 3 for the ballot ladies. > >I was the only voter there. Nobody shifted our polling place---the municipal/court building, so we found it easily. We voted fairly early---about 10 or so. There seemed to be a fairly good turnout---probably because one U.S. Senate seat as well as the governor's spot is contested. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:22:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KMKwA001223 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:22:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042D30C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:22:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3156990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:22:19 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PMuhfKVxgIBoCEIIv/0D81bsH3gPqkxB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KC7i25377 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:12:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9B32FE37 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B7E447C15; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:12:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC82611.71E91E47@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 5, 2002 3:12: 1 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:12:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105201206.B7E447C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > > bizarre. > > Boundaries have to fall somewhere. Somebody on the redistricting > commmittee figured out carefully who s/he wanted to be in your district > and the other one. I guess. My street isn't that long, a couple of miles, tops. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:24:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KOnwA001234 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:24:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D3DD8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:24:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3158195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:24:48 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f81.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.81]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KOmi27724 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:24:48 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:24:42 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:24:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: voting Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:24:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2002 20:24:42.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FB56B00:01C28509] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "clyde w. voigtlander" >be a fairly good turnout---probably because one U.S. Senate seat as well as >the governor's spot is contested. There were about four people at the polling place when I went this morning. And we also have a Governor's race going on. Lame lame lame. On primary day, we voted in the early evening, and the volunteers told us that only nine people people had come in all day. Of course, I live in a commuting district and most probably vote after they get home at night, but still... Marie _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:26:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KQDwA001253 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:26:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042D381@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:26:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3157325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:26:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5cVq8sZ059fQ87WeOOZcTmUaF7+DP9cI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KGBi26205 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:16:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0AE2FD15 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 338BD7C11; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:16:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC7DFD2.19520.16EBCA5@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 5, 2002 3:12:19 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:16:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105201610.338BD7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > > bizarre. > > > > Karen > > Why? The line hasta be somewhere. Now, if the person 5 houses up the street is > also in a different precinct... Well, we're on the same block, I guess that's why it seems odd. I wonder if it's because he's on the other side of the street. Anyway, I got to tease him because he's voting at an elementary school and I'm voting at a JC. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:32:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KWNwA001337 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:32:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042D433@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:32:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3158795 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:32:19 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KWIi28926 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:32:18 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA12108 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:32:16 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA12025 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:32:13 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC82A89.35D5F0DA@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:31:05 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alyce: > It is about time that you returned. "Please excuse my coming late" we were taught to say at school when we had been late at an English lesson. As an excuse I am prepared to use a sentence from Janet's message from Oct 24: >You notice it took me two or three months after my last return >from NY to go mail again. I started reading words-l post soon after my coming back from Scotland, sometimes receiving messages and sometimes at ftp archives, till the site expired, always rather apt to start writing messages, but not carrying out that good intention for fair of not being able to stay and answer messages addressed to me. There was much to do, of course, after being away for a fortnight. So, there must be more of those messages that I haven't read than those I have. > Please give us a report on all > that you have done during your absence. And I was a bit afraid of that nice request, too. Am I the only one here who has never sent any WHTMs? Certainly, the trip filled me with impressions that perhaps are not settled in me even by now yet, and I've thought I must look through not only all the notes I made on that trip (I made less of them than I thought before, to my surprise, btw), but also all the tourist information booklets I chose to take with me from here and there, and re-experience the trip once more, here, at home. Now, again , I maybe chose a bad time of the day for my return, for I plan to go home from the office after about a half an hour... (this like a chorus in my msgs) Meanwhile I've been exhilarated by some good concerts, some CD's with Britten's music I bought in York (one of the places I'd like to go once more), and by my renewal of friendship with and awe towards Charles Dickens, this time in English. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:33:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KXAwA001348 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:33:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D3ECF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:33:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3158892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:33:09 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KX8i29076 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:33:08 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA12403 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:33:07 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA12319 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:33:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC82ABE.812D657A@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:31:58 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> <20021105200043.GB21359@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > I have been injured badly, but I'll survive ... Do you want to talk about it, Tushar? Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:38:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5Kc0wA001392 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:38:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042D4ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:37:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3159208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:38:00 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Kbwi29995 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:37:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.66.169]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H54EDR00.VKY for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:32:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC82A55.C383E725@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:30:13 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105195459.D36FE7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > bizarre. Sometimes it runs up the middle of the street. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:45:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KjWwA001459 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:45:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042D5F2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3159797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:31 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KjTi31348 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:29 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA17739 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:45:25 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA17656 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:45:23 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:44:16 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Ch.Dickens Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >and by my renewal of friendship with and awe towards Charles Dickens, >this time in English, I said. Why him? Because it was at some time during my adult years that I found that CD -- oh, no, I'd better write out his name --, that Charles Dickens was not only the sentimental author of "Oliver Twist", that is, that even "Oliver Twist" was not only a touching story, but full of keen humour, let alone irony that I still understood, or experienced, differently when young. Since that discovery I've planned for years to read him in English, now at last I started it. It is wonderful. Only I guess, I must re-read them after some time, to look up all the words I left unlooked during the first reading, to keep reading more or less fluent. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:45:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KjlwA001463 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:45:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042D600@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3159048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:aKDuayJx9fx0fjKBJMXGVoJmHCSm3pQx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KZei29534 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:35:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDC92FE53 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7B65F7C0D; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:35:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: I love Texas! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:35:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105203539.7B65F7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm about to go outside and dig holes wearing shorts and t-shirt--it's 71 degrees!! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:49:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5Kn4wA001497 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042D669@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:49:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3159941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:49:03 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Kn3i31688 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:49:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust216.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.218]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC82F3C.CCC57EDB@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:51:08 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105201610.338BD7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > > > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > > > bizarre. > > > > > > Karen > > > > Why? The line hasta be somewhere. Now, if the person 5 houses up the street is > > also in a different precinct... > > Well, we're on the same block, I guess that's why it seems odd. I > wonder if it's because he's on the other side of the street. Yes. The people across the road from me are in District 2. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:51:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5Kp3wA001508 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:51:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D407E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:51:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3160065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:51:03 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Kp2i31970 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:51:02 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA20676 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:51:01 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA20593 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:50:59 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC82EEF.E07BD058@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:49:51 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: JMW ... References: <004601c284da$9852dee0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Here's a WHORISH-like Happy Birthday to YOU! > > Woo-HOO! My favorite kind! Thank you! And isn't this a perfect place to wish you also many happy returns? HB, John M.! Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:52:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KqowA001528 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:52:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D40A1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:52:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3159546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:52:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NdEjOroKxQfcwoh6XXKaJ0Dnw6+UIyhD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Kgji30696 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:42:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3813E2FD78 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:42:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E0A9D7C0E; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:42:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC82A55.C383E725@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 5, 2002 1:30:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:42:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105204244.E0A9D7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > > bizarre. > > Sometimes it runs up the middle of the street. Yeah. But there's nothing behind the other side of the street for a mile or so except greenbelt--that's why it seems weird to me to split it there. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 14:55:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5KtIwA001560 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:55:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042D73F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3160395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5KtHi00303 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:55:17 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust216.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.218]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:55:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC830C9.7BBBBC28@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:57:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >and by my renewal of friendship with and awe towards Charles Dickens, > >this time in English, I look forward to your further remarks on reading Dickens, but really would like a WHTM. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:01:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5L1owA001636 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:01:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042D804@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3160989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:50 -0500 Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA5L1ni01589 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 9250 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2002 21:01:48 -0000 Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 2002 21:01:48 -0000 Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id E667A34F11; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0F92D643 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:48 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <000801c284fd$5b99e5c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Doris Markland wrote: > I just came home from voting. I vote at a church on a pominent corner > on a major street leading out of the city. > > There were no cars in the parking lot, except about 3 for the ballot > ladies. > > I was the only voter there. The opposite was true for us -- we went to the polling place, and there was actually a *line*. This has not been true the last 2 times we voted there (not 2001, not even 2000). This may be due to some of the recent antics involving the county council -- the incumbent Democrat lost the primary and endorsed the Republican candidate instead of the Democrat who defeated him. It may also be because, due to redistricting, an incumbent Democrat whose district didn't include us until recently has been campaigning to beat the band among his new constituents. Or it may just have been a statistical fluke and the place was empty except when we were there. To add to the election shenanigans, my wife and I were on our way back home after flying to South Dakota to see my dad get an award and be at his retirement party, and our plane from Sioux Falls to Minneapolis had to turn around because was at the Minneapolis airport. We went back to Sioux Falls and refueled, then sat on the ground until it was to return. We got to Minneapolis about an hour and a half late and missed our connecting flight, all because W had to make a taxpayer-funded campaign stop for some other Republicans. The airline put us on another plane to Indianapolis, so we got home. Later we found out that the same thing had happened to , who made better use of his time in his grounded airplane than we did in ours: http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/3407832.html -- Take care, Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net) Got to see one of the -- is it AF1 if the POTUS isn't inside? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:04:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5L4HwA001653 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:04:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042D844@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:04:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3161192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:04:16 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5L4Gi02028 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:04:16 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id XAA26032 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:04:14 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA25948 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:04:13 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC83209.4568B5AE@akad.ee> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 23:03:05 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> <3DC830C9.7BBBBC28@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I look forward to your further remarks on reading Dickens, but really > would like a WHTM. And I hope, your breathing becomes better and easier (it already did?) Now it is 11 p.m. "...she vanished like a discontented fairy..." though there is no more discontent on my part, of course, that the clock is moving so quickly. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:06:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5L6gwA001664 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:06:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042D891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3161358 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:41 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5L6fi02377 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:41 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07048 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 16:04:30 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 16:04:11 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:04:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: voting Message-ID: <3DC7EBF8.25972.19E2E64@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC82F3C.CCC57EDB@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I went to vote at 6 this morning they couldn't find me on the registration list. I have never missed an election or a primary in the 30+ years I have been voting and I have lived at the same address for 28 years. I was prepared to be outraged (picture THAT if you can). It turns out that the two districts which share the lobby of the school had decided to switch places and that I was just at the wrong table. BrP > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > > > > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > > > > bizarre. > > > > > > > > Karen > > > > > > Why? The line hasta be somewhere. Now, if the person 5 houses up the street is > > > also in a different precinct... > > > > Well, we're on the same block, I guess that's why it seems odd. I > > wonder if it's because he's on the other side of the street. > > Yes. The people across the road from me are in District 2. > > alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:06:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5L6qwA001668 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:06:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042D896@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3161371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:51 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5L6pi02394 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:51 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08256 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 16:06:49 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 16:06:43 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: voting Message-ID: <3DC7EC91.10901.1A0840C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021105204244.E0A9D7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC82A55.C383E725@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 5, 2002 1:30:13 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Sometimes it runs up the middle of the street. > > Yeah. But there's nothing behind the other side of the street for a > mile or so except greenbelt--that's why it seems weird to me to split > it there. > > Karen Elbridge Gerry lives? BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:24:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LOWwA001779 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:24:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042DAF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:24:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3162686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:24:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:oxm7r/W/d5AchCbURSb12HFD3w+N5GBw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5LEVi04123 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:14:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B8A2FDDB for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:14:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 65D1F7C11; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:14:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC7EC91.10901.1A0840C@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 5, 2002 4: 6:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:14:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105211426.65D1F7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > Sometimes it runs up the middle of the street. > > > > Yeah. But there's nothing behind the other side of the street for a > > mile or so except greenbelt--that's why it seems weird to me to split > > it there. > > > > Karen > > > Elbridge Gerry lives? ?????? I googled and got this: http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/ea/vp/vpgerry.html What am I missing? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:30:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LU3wA001845 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:30:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042DB81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:30:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3164300 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:30:02 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5LU2207041 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:30:02 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22474 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 16:30:01 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 5 Nov 02 16:28:46 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:28:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: voting Message-ID: <3DC7F1B5.27302.1B497AA@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021105211426.65D1F7C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC7EC91.10901.1A0840C@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 5, 2002 4: 6:41 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > Elbridge Gerry lives? > > ?????? > > I googled and got this: > http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/ea/vp/vpgerry.html > > What am I missing? > > Karen Gerry was notorious for drawing district boundaries to include supporters and exclude opponents (hence the Gerry - mander). Perhaps if you had let the powers that be know you were planning to vote for Republicans you might be back with the other side of the street. :-) BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:34:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LYcwA001893 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:34:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042DC12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:34:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3164860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:34:37 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5LYZ208299 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:34:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H54H5P01.HN9 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:32:13 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC83A61.15C1FC65@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:38:41 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tom Lee wrote: > Got to see one of the -- is it AF1 if the POTUS isn't inside? No. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:46:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LjxwA002004 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:46:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042DD6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:45:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3166186 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:45:58 -0500 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Ljw211196 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:45:58 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-004neomahp0263.dialsprint.net ([63.186.33.9]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 189BWG-00023H-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 13:45:57 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:45:44 -0700 Subject: Re: Weird From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021105100532.032087f0@victoria.nb.no> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/5/2002 2:05 AM, Espen Ore at Espen.Ore@NB.NO wrote: >> I guess I'm just , but I really don't know anyone older than >> me, except my ex! You may call it weird, but that's my situation at the >> moment. > > I didn't write any of this. > > Espen It was me who wrote this. I dunno why it was credited to you, But it got screwed up somehow. Sorry about this, Espen. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:48:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LmLwA002024 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:48:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042DDA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:48:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3165266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:48:20 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3NSVZK3gB7SWpwrCPe8r/G/hRpPC7IMc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5LcK209130 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:38:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B050A2FE93 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:38:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 70C797C16; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:38:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC7F1B5.27302.1B497AA@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 5, 2002 4:28:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:38:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105213819.70C797C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > > > > Elbridge Gerry lives? > > > > ?????? > > > > I googled and got this: > > http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/ea/vp/vpgerry.html > > > > What am I missing? > > > > Karen > > Gerry was notorious for drawing district boundaries to include supporters and > exclude opponents (hence the Gerry - mander). Perhaps if you had let the powers > that be know you were planning to vote for Republicans you might be back with the > other side of the street. > > :-) Ligniere nearly hung on me last night when he found out I voted for a Republican. And he's not even a citizen! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:48:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LmWwA002027 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:48:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042DDAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:48:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3166438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:48:31 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail014.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5LmV211794 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:48:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.123]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105215010.VLQO21537.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:50:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC83CA9.B9BD305B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:48:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Boo hoo References: <20021105141546.95D187C09@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > You can have some of our precipitation, although I'm not sure you want > > it. I don't remember any fall of my life when we've had this much > > rain. It's pouring today. > > Piker. We've been raining for 4 days, and there's flooding > everywhere. My plants are very happy. I've lost count of how many days here. About 40 I think. And yes to flooding, though most of it is south of Starkville. My plants are choking on water overload. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:51:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LpVwA002071 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:51:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042DE17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:51:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3165779 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:51:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:EQSEvyJOXfgpC4Kfwln+HU2X09Rr7J1r@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5LfS210160 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:41:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8FE2FE2F for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A585B7C24; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC7F1B5.27302.1B497AA@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 5, 2002 4:28:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:41:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105214122.A585B7C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > Gerry was notorious for drawing district boundaries to include supporters and > exclude opponents (hence the Gerry - mander). I was wondering if that was the source for that. Ooh, here's M-W's definition: "Etymology: Elbridge Gerry + salamander; from the shape of an election district formed during Gerry's governorship of Massachusetts" > Perhaps if you had let the powers > that be know you were planning to vote for Republicans you might be back with the > other side of the street. > > :-) LOL. Lindsey and I could have traded.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:53:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LrjwA002088 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:53:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042DE5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:53:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3167133 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:53:43 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail114.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Lrh213080 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:53:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.123]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105215523.VPCN21537.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:55:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC83DE2.5588E3CA@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:53:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC7F70D.B2A82513@maynor.net> <20021105181223.A18479@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > address of someone who seems to know him Weird. I had assumed that Juniper was a female. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 15:59:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5LxVwA003136 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:59:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D49B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:59:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3166510 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:59:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:kytKxiY0/B8fCt2CamzMhas9atA2CuSz@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5LnT211920 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:49:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 362502FE5D for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BB6137C16; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:49:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Boo hoo In-Reply-To: <3DC83CA9.B9BD305B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 5, 2002 3:48:25 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:49:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105214928.BB6137C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Natalie Maynor said: > > > You can have some of our precipitation, although I'm not sure you want > > > it. I don't remember any fall of my life when we've had this much > > > rain. It's pouring today. > > > > Piker. We've been raining for 4 days, and there's flooding > > everywhere. My plants are very happy. > > I've lost count of how many days here. About 40 I think. And yes to > flooding, though most of it is south of Starkville. My plants are > choking on water overload. But now it's 72, and I have to go water the plants I'm planting. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:01:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5M1JwA003169 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042DF6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3168318 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M1G214375 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:16 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-165.panax.com [63.163.41.165]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M1Ft04688 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105165942.009fd150@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:00:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Moose Munch has arrived In-Reply-To: <3DC83DE2.5588E3CA@maynor.net> References: <20021105032714.95E287C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC7F70D.B2A82513@maynor.net> <20021105181223.A18479@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you, Marie. This stuff is pretty tasty. I do note, however, that there are 1190 calories in the one 10 ounce bag. I shall go at it slowly. It arrived in good shape, in spite of its overly-large box. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:01:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5M1SwA003174 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:01:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042DF79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3168428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:27 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M1Q214476 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.46]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105220107.SBIB22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:01:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC83FAE.3FD567ED@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:01:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <3DC81F51.18FAA1E8@valstar.net> <000801c284fd$5b99e5c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I just came home from voting. I vote at a > church on a pominent corner on a major > street leading out of the city. I don't like my new voting place. (It seems strange that this is the first election since I moved over a year ago, but this was my first time in the new place.) I vote in a fire station now instead of in the back of the electric company. I liked the ambience of the old place. > I was the only voter there. My voting place was doing a pretty hopping business. Usually I try to vote as soon as it starts at 7 a.m., but today I didn't do that since I didn't want to have to go way out to this fire station and then to campus, making me probably not get to my office until 7:30. So I voted this afternoon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:03:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5M3awA003189 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:03:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042DFCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:03:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3168805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:03:35 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M3Z215031 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:03:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.46]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105220316.SDLZ22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:03:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC84031.AF87E4B7@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:03:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > > Hi, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN??? I've been wondering about you for ages. Did you give a report on your trip to England while I was on nomail in Finland? What date was it that you got home from that trip? I'm trying to remember now the date I was in Tallinn. It was around the time you were due back. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:04:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5M4iwA003535 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:04:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D4B66@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:04:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3169012 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:04:43 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M4g215441 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:04:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.46]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105220423.SEUT22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:04:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC84075.D6DAF5CC@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:04:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105195459.D36FE7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > My friend who lives *5 houses down the street* from me, a mere 11 > numbers away, is in a different precinct from me. I find that entirely > bizarre. Why is that bizarre? If precincts are going to exist, lines have to be drawn between them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:06:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5M68wA005248 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E021@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:06:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3169199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:06:03 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M63215715 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:06:03 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-165.panax.com [63.163.41.165]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M60t05953 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:06:00 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105170447.009f4840@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:05:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC830C9.7BBBBC28@valstar.net> References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Kristin Sarv wrote: > > >and by my renewal of friendship with and awe towards Charles Dickens, > > >this time in English, > >I look forward to your further remarks on reading Dickens, but really >would like a WHTM. --alyce I'm still wishing that Marie would write a WHTM about her honeymoon trip, especially The Lake District of England. But I must not complain now that I have my moose munch. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:06:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5M6FwA005254 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:06:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E024@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:06:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3169216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:06:13 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5M6D215740 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:06:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.46]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105220554.SGMD22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:05:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC840CF.30481E3@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:06:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105201610.338BD7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Well, we're on the same block, I guess that's why it seems odd. I > wonder if it's because he's on the other side of the street. Is the line perhaps the street, or are your across-the-street neighbors in your same precinct? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:20:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5MK8wA005986 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:20:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D4D03@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:20:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3170227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:20:07 -0500 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5MK6217756 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:20:06 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-004neomahp0263.dialsprint.net ([63.186.33.9]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 189C3J-0005zQ-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 14:20:05 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:20:47 -0700 Subject: Re: JMW ... From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DC7ABA5.22321.1FB27E0F@localhost> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/5/2002 9:29 AM, Paul R. Barfoot at prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU wrote: > HBD from me too JMW > > > BrP Me three, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:30:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5MUnwA006111 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:30:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042E262@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:30:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3170883 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:30:48 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail100.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5MUl219153 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:30:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.249]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105223227.FEZZ1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:32:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC84692.B59889A8@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:30:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105170447.009f4840@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I'm still wishing that Marie would write a WHTM about her honeymoon trip, > especially The Lake District of England. But I must not complain now that > I have my moose munch. But her honeymoon was to -- I've forgotten exactly where -- was it Jamaica? No, wait -- it was St. John's (as in VI, not as in NFLD). Or was it somewhere else? Anyway, it was somewhere down in that general direction. That trip to England was later. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:40:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5MeCwA006186 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:40:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042E32E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3171470 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5MeB220501 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:11 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H54K1500.SLI for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:34:17 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC84903.EB98A5D5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:41:07 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105195459.D36FE7C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC84075.D6DAF5CC@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Why is that bizarre? If precincts are going to exist, lines have to be > drawn between them. Yea, but how wide are they? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:47:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5MlkwA006254 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:47:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D4F25@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:47:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3171865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:47:44 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Mli221476 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:47:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.249]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105224923.FGAU14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:49:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC84A8A.BDE5AA5C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:47:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105195459.D36FE7C11@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC84075.D6DAF5CC@maynor.net> <3DC84903.EB98A5D5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Why is that bizarre? If precincts are going to exist, lines have to be > > drawn between them. > > Yea, but how wide are they? The lines? That's like my question about how wide a state line is -- like which state would you be in if you died right on the line. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:50:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5MoFwA006263 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:50:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D4F60@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:50:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3172040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:50:14 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5MoE221797 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:50:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.249]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105225153.FHRS14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:51:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 16:50:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Probability Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU A man is shopping for gifts for his boss's two children. The clerk asks him whether they're male or female. He pauses and thinks and remembers some reference that makes him know that at least one of them is a boy. He doesn't know about the other one, though. What's the probability that the other one is a girl? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 16:55:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5MtrwA006292 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:55:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D4FD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:55:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3172415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:55:52 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Mtq222568 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:55:52 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust216.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.218]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:55:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC84D0A.392B5DC4@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:58:18 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105214122.A585B7C24@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I was wondering if that was the source for that. > I am startled that you didn't know it. >Ligniere nearly hung on me last night An interesting picture. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:07:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5N7jwA006394 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:07:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D518F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:07:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3172593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:07:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HssX4P0TmAOWShopTmv+jfc/6vQsW3D0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Mvi222871 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB592FDD4 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 98FA77C0F; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: voting In-Reply-To: <3DC84D0A.392B5DC4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 5, 2002 5:58:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105225743.98FA77C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I was wondering if that was the source for that. > > > I am startled that you didn't know it. I think I knew it was Massachusetts. > >Ligniere nearly hung on me last night > > An interesting picture. Oops. hung up on me. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:11:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NBXwA006457 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:11:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E5E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174067 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:31 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NBV225440 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.235]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105231311.ZQU10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:13:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC8501D.AC763501@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:11:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <20021105225743.98FA77C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > An interesting picture. > > Oops. hung up on me. Hmm. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:11:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NBcwA006462 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042E5E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:37 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NBb225475 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:37 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NBZt21453 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:11:35 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105181101.00a04270@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:11:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC84692.B59889A8@maynor.net> References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105170447.009f4840@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > I'm still wishing that Marie would write a WHTM about her honeymoon trip, > > especially The Lake District of England. But I must not complain now that > > I have my moose munch. > >But her honeymoon was to -- I've forgotten exactly where -- was it >Jamaica? No, wait -- it was St. John's (as in VI, not as in NFLD). Or >was it somewhere else? Anyway, it was somewhere down in that general >direction. That trip to England was later. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Oh. Never mind. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:14:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NE2wA006489 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:14:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042E60E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:14:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174213 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:14:00 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NE0225832 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:14:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.235]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105231540.BBIX10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:15:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC850B2.E12B4FFB@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:13:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105170447.009f4840@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105181101.00a04270@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >bonniev wrote: > > > I'm still wishing that Marie would write a WHTM about her honeymoon trip, > > > especially The Lake District of England. But I must not complain now that > > > I have my moose munch. > > > >But her honeymoon was to -- I've forgotten exactly where -- was it > >Jamaica? No, wait -- it was St. John's (as in VI, not as in NFLD). Or > >was it somewhere else? Anyway, it was somewhere down in that general > >direction. That trip to England was later. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Oh. Never mind. So you don't want to hear about England unless it was honeymoon details? Raw Spanish peanuts have shown up in Wmart again. Do Yankee Wmarts not have them? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:19:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NJ4wA006554 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:19:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E665@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:19:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:19:03 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NJ2226335 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:19:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.235]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021105232042.BEKM10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:20:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:18:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Juniper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Juniper's first name apparently starts with M. http://www.momonwheels.com/sbla/sb/sb92dec16-30.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:22:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NM2wA006570 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:22:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042E68E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:22:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:22:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f51.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.51]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NLi226632 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:21:44 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:21:38 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 23:21:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy Diwali! Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 23:21:38 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2002 23:21:38.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[17850110:01C28522] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:01:47PM +0530, Red wrote: >I have been away for sometime now,its Diwali in India,festive time >this..Happy Diwali/Deepawali Rashmi,Tushar..Happy Diwali list.. Thank you for the jolt of nostalgia. The rhythms of the Indian calendar are no longer instinctive and I never know when things like Diwali are. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:23:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NNTwA006583 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:23:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E6A7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174665 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:23:26 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NNL226854 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:23:21 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NNJt23835 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:23:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105182143.00a0c710@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:23:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC850B2.E12B4FFB@maynor.net> References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105170447.009f4840@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105181101.00a04270@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So you don't want to hear about England unless it was honeymoon details? I would still like to hear about it. >Raw Spanish peanuts have shown up in Wmart again. Do Yankee Wmarts not >have them? -- Natalie I doubt it. However, there was a grocery store in Poulsbo, Washington that had them in September. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:31:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NV2wA006641 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:31:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5303@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:31:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3174987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:31:00 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NV0227627 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:31:00 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA15525 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:30:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5703638699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:30:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:30:59 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Juniper Message-ID: <20021105233059.GA22730@pobox.com> References: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:18:56PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Juniper's first name apparently starts with M. > http://www.momonwheels.com/sbla/sb/sb92dec16-30.html Greetings, Dr Maynor, What the HELL are you talking about? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:34:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NY8wA006660 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:34:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E738@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:34:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:34:06 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NY6227858 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:34:06 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.17f.115f0f44 (4004) for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:33:57 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:33:57 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] need an exorcist To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/05/2002 9:54:35 AM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << I *hate* this fucking voicemail political spam. >> Me, too. The first time John Sullivan ran, we got 15 spamcalls the day before the election. I swore that I would never vote for him. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:36:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NaRwA006676 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:36:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042E76D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NaP228102 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:36:25 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54004RDMWOBD@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:36:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:37:40 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: voting To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC85644.1020100@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I waited in line for a few minutes to vote. I got there around 3:45. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:36:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NatwA006684 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:36:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5343@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:36:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:36:53 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Nar228170 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:36:53 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA17857 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:36:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C77AA38699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:36:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:36:52 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021105233652.GB22730@pobox.com> References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:50:08PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > A man is shopping for gifts for his boss's two children. The clerk asks > him whether they're male or female. He pauses and thinks and remembers > some reference that makes him know that at least one of them is a boy. > He doesn't know about the other one, though. What's the probability > that the other one is a girl? 2 out of 3. Uh, probably, HA HA HA HA From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:37:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NbewA006690 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:37:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E788@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:37:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175228 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:37:39 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Nbc228251 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:37:38 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA18227 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:37:38 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4404638699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:37:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:37:38 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021105233738.GC22730@pobox.com> References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> <20021105200043.GB21359@pobox.com> <3DC82ABE.812D657A@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC82ABE.812D657A@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:31:58PM +0200, Kristin Sarv wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > I have been injured badly, but I'll survive ... > > Do you want to talk about it, Tushar? Thanks From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:40:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NeIwA006706 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D535E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:16 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NeG228474 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:16 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA19265 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5637638699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:14 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Higher education Message-ID: <20021105234014.GD22730@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Has being a student at the University changed you in any way? If so, how? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:40:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NerwA006711 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:40:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D536E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:52 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Nep228534 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:51 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.f4.244797b9 (4004) for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:41 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:41 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] voting To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I guess Mom and I are lucky: our voting place is our leasing office. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:44:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NiVwA006724 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:44:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E7FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:44:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:44:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NiT228816 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:44:29 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-20.panax.com [63.163.41.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NiRt28490 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:44:27 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:44:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Probability In-Reply-To: <20021105233652.GB22730@pobox.com> References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:36 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: >On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:50:08PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A man is shopping for gifts for his boss's two children. The clerk asks > > him whether they're male or female. He pauses and thinks and remembers > > some reference that makes him know that at least one of them is a boy. > > He doesn't know about the other one, though. What's the probability > > that the other one is a girl? > >2 out of 3. Uh, probably, HA HA HA HA 50% Given Natalie's explanation, that the one is a male has no bearing on the probablity of the second one. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:55:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NtcwA006825 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:55:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5538@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:55:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3175540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:55:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:iWspDWAZ+GrOetI6AE13a58uVrTF/rBt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Njb228960 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:45:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51142FE27 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 98DA67C11; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: The line To: words-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:45:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021105234536.98DA67C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Goes down the middle of the street. Lindsey tells me we're in different legislative districts also. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:57:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NvPwA006833 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042E8D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:57:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3176214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:57:23 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5NvM230264 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:57:22 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA28231 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9BEA238699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:21 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:44:24PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 05:36 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: > >On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:50:08PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> A man is shopping for gifts for his boss's two children. The clerk asks > >> him whether they're male or female. He pauses and thinks and remembers > >> some reference that makes him know that at least one of them is a boy. > >> He doesn't know about the other one, though. What's the probability > >> that the other one is a girl? > > > >2 out of 3. Uh, probably, HA HA HA HA > > 50% Given Natalie's explanation, that the one is a male has no bearing on > the probablity of the second one. But that's not what you are told ... I read it as saying that SOME one child is male, not that a designated child (say the older one) is male. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 17:58:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA5NvxwA006837 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5574@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:57:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3176233 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:57:53 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA5Nvr230305 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:57:53 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA28542 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7E25238699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:57:52 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The line Message-ID: <20021105235752.GB24239@pobox.com> References: <20021105234536.98DA67C11@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021105234536.98DA67C11@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 03:45:36PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Goes down the middle of the street. Lindsey tells me we're in > different legislative districts also. I think your usage of "same block" is wrong. Discuss ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:03:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA603DwA006879 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:03:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042E93F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:03:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3176504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:03:11 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA603B230945 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:03:11 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA01413 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:03:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A3E6138699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:03:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:03:10 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021106000310.GC24239@pobox.com> References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:57:21PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:44:24PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > At 05:36 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: > > >On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:50:08PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > >> A man is shopping for gifts for his boss's two children. The clerk asks > > >> him whether they're male or female. He pauses and thinks and remembers > > >> some reference that makes him know that at least one of them is a boy. > > >> He doesn't know about the other one, though. What's the probability > > >> that the other one is a girl? > > > > > >2 out of 3. Uh, probably, HA HA HA HA > > > > 50% Given Natalie's explanation, that the one is a male has no bearing on > > the probablity of the second one. > > But that's not what you are told ... I read it as saying that SOME one > child is male, not that a designated child (say the older one) is male. That's kind of unclear--what I mean is this: Temporarily introduce the notion of older and younger. When you are told there is at least one boy, there are THREE cases which are equally likely: boy and girl, girl and boy, boy and boy. In two of those, the other's a girl. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:10:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60AowA006913 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:10:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042E9A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:10:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3176734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:10:48 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60Al231628 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:10:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.53]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H54OE500.TMX for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:08:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC85DC6.ADB8E349@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:09:43 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: voting References: <3DC85644.1020100@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The weather in the GMA is severe clear and I'd say the turnout was only moderate, especially since we're votin' fools here in the East Valley. 30 second wait for a booth. Took longer than that to establish that I'm the JW on Enid, not the JW on Moro. Only five minutes to go through both sides - I do my homework, plus I blew off the judges - including much last-minute moral tennis over all the gambling propositions. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:15:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60FUwA006961 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:15:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D566D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:15:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3176907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:15:28 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60FS232124 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:15:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54006WMOPQ3A@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:15:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:16:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC85F69.2040800@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm currently slogging through A Tale of Two Cities and prepping a unit on it. Blah. I've never liked Dickens, and I've especially never liked this particular book. Kristin Sarv wrote: >>and by my renewal of friendship with and awe towards Charles Dickens, >>this time in English, >> > > I said. Why him? Because it was at some time during my adult years that > I found that CD -- oh, no, I'd better write out his name --, that > Charles Dickens was not only the sentimental author of "Oliver Twist", > that is, that even "Oliver Twist" was not only a touching story, but > full of keen humour, let alone irony that I still understood, or > experienced, differently when young. Since that discovery I've planned > for years to read him in English, now at last I started it. It is > wonderful. > > Only I guess, I must re-read them after some time, to look up all the > words I left unlooked during the first reading, to keep reading more or > less fluent. > > Kristin > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:34:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60YwwA007046 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:34:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EACD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:34:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:34:56 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60Yu201651 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:34:56 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-20.panax.com [63.163.41.20]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60Yrt06656 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:34:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:27:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Probability In-Reply-To: <20021106000310.GC24239@pobox.com> References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:03 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: >That's kind of unclear--what I mean is this: > >Temporarily introduce the notion of older and younger. When you >are told there is at least one boy, there are THREE cases which >are equally likely: boy and girl, girl and boy, boy and boy. In >two of those, the other's a girl. Nonetheless, according to Natalie's post, the only question is: What is the probability of the second child being a girl? The only answer is: 50% (or 0.50 for statistician types). Her question does not refer to possible mixes, i.e., permutations/combinations---<> to the sex of the second child. In this case, the sex of the "first" child, whether older or younger, is irrelevant to the question at hand, because the sex of the first has no effect on the sex of the second. Moreover, the notion of older/younger has no bearing in this case, save that you introduced it. Also, think of the problem another way. If neither sex is known for certain, what is the probability that one will be male and one female? Again (ignoring some fine points of population genetics), the answer is 0.50 (MM, FF, MF, FM). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:35:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60ZVwA007049 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:35:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EAD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:35:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:35:29 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60ZT201755 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:35:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.37]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106003709.LOWE24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC863C9.55B329DB@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:35:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Juniper References: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> <20021105233059.GA22730@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Juniper's first name apparently starts with M. > > http://www.momonwheels.com/sbla/sb/sb92dec16-30.html > > Greetings, Dr Maynor, > > What the HELL are you talking about? Go to the above url and search for "cheating." Hmm. That silly US punctuation problem. Search for this word: cheating -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:39:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60dTwA007072 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:39:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042EB0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:39:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:39:27 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60dR202164 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:39:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.37]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106004107.LSWC24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:41:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:39:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find it very odd that I haven't received any political phone calls at all. Zero. It's not that they're not happening here. I've heard lots of local people complaining about them. But I haven't gotten any. Has word spread that I hate telemarketing? That didn't stop some woman from calling me late this afternoon to ask whether I wanted to buy her group insurance for my employees, of course. I told her I didn't have any employees. So she then asked me if I wanted to get the insurance myself. I told her I was quite content with the state-employee group insurance of which I partake -- as in I pay them money every month, not as in they ever pay me any money, but then insurance is like that -- someday I may get . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:40:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60e2wA007076 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:40:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EB14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:40:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177786 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:40:00 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60e0202211 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:40:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.37]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106004140.LTLR24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC864DA.225CC456@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:39:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <20021105233652.GB22730@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:50:08PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > A man is shopping for gifts for his boss's two children. The clerk asks > > him whether they're male or female. He pauses and thinks and remembers > > some reference that makes him know that at least one of them is a boy. > > He doesn't know about the other one, though. What's the probability > > that the other one is a girl? > > 2 out of 3. Uh, probably, HA HA HA HA No. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:42:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60g3wA007087 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:42:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EB2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:42:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:42:00 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60g0202395 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:42:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.37]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106004340.LVNQ24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:43:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC86552.C3E1107A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:41:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > At 05:36 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: > >On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:50:08PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > A man is shopping for gifts for his boss's two children. The clerk asks > > > him whether they're male or female. He pauses and thinks and remembers > > > some reference that makes him know that at least one of them is a boy. > > > He doesn't know about the other one, though. What's the probability > > > that the other one is a girl? > > > >2 out of 3. Uh, probably, HA HA HA HA > > 50% Given Natalie's explanation, that the one is a male has no bearing on > the probablity of the second one. No. (But that was also my answer when asked the question.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:43:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60hfwA007104 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:43:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EB43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:43:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177877 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:43:39 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60hd202530 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:43:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.37]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106004518.LXGK24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:45:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC865B5.C18ED902@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:43:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > >2 out of 3. Uh, probably, HA HA HA HA > > > > 50% Given Natalie's explanation, that the one is a male has no bearing on > > the probablity of the second one. > > But that's not what you are told ... I read it as saying that SOME one > child is male, not that a designated child (say the older one) is male. Oh wait, oh wait!! I think you got it, Tushykins, and I screwed up in saying no. You're definitely on the right track re older/younger stuff. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:45:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60jlwA007134 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:45:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EB56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:45:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:45:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:39wbGHc1LRgQ2Ll9YmtrJX/kQRgOd6PY@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60Zi201785 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:35:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B2B2FE72 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 479C07C0F; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:35:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The line In-Reply-To: <20021105235752.GB24239@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 5, 2002 5:57:52 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:35:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106003543.479C07C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 03:45:36PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Goes down the middle of the street. Lindsey tells me we're in > > different legislative districts also. > > I think your usage of "same block" is wrong. Discuss ... It's like Japanese blocks instead of American blocks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:45:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60jowA007137 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:45:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EB58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:45:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:45:48 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60jm202656 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:45:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.37]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106004727.LZDO24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:47:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC86636.43DCD2C9@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:45:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <20021106000310.GC24239@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > But that's not what you are told ... I read it as saying that SOME one > > child is male, not that a designated child (say the older one) is male. > > That's kind of unclear--what I mean is this: > > Temporarily introduce the notion of older and younger. When you > are told there is at least one boy, there are THREE cases which > are equally likely: boy and girl, girl and boy, boy and boy. In > two of those, the other's a girl. YES! You got it. And I apologize profusely for screwing up in my quick "no" upon first reading your answer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:50:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60otwA007157 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:50:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D57C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:50:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3177819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:50:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:F4xLcxNF8iteavOnFvBdtGUF0zQu+lUd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60eq202318 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:40:52 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0D02FEC0 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E26977C09; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:40:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 5, 2002 6:39:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 16:40:51 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106004051.E26977C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I find it very odd that I haven't received any political phone calls at > all. Zero. You can have my share. I've had at least 10, the latest one being Ann Richards. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 18:56:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA60u0wA007185 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:56:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042EBCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:55:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3178261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:55:58 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60tv203632 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:55:58 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54004APQL9BK@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:55:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:57:13 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Hey Bethany To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC868E9.4080806@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anybody at your barn have contacts in the St. Louis area? Ana is asking for riding lessons, and of course you find riding places by word of mouth... I don't know who is who around here. I want her to start out balance seat. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:03:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA613lwA007235 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:03:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042EC45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:03:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3178799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:03:40 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA613e204543 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:03:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:03:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:06:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: The story continues... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Friends and fellow book dealers, Wooden Spoon Books at 200 N. Fourth ave, Ann Arbor, MI is closing sometime VERY soon, possibly within two weeks. The court did NOT see things my way. We have at least 40,000 books to deal with plus fixtures. We will sell all inventory at 2/3 off to legitimate book dealers. We will sell large amounts, entire sections, etc. at even greater discounts. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:09:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA619CwA007262 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:09:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042ECA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3178316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:09:09 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA60x9203828 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:59:09 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA60x7pY024299 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:59:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:59:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC85F69.2040800@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Rita Chapman wrote: > I'm currently slogging through A Tale of Two Cities and >prepping a unit on it. Blah. I've never liked Dickens, and >I've especially never liked this particular book. How can you not like Dickens? He is so ... lively (to quote a gentleman in American Tongues). But TOTC is not his best ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:10:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61AswA007268 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:10:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5908@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:10:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3178385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:10:52 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA610q204042 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:00:52 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA610opY025283 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:00:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:00:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hey Bethany In-Reply-To: <3DC868E9.4080806@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Rita Chapman wrote: >Anybody at your barn have contacts in the St. Louis area? Give me a couple of days - I'll find out. I had planned to visit Maria early this week, but it's been raining cats and dogs - Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:14:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61EjwA007282 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:14:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D594C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:14:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3178848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:14:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA614g204635 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:04:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA614dpY028014 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:04:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:04:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... In-Reply-To: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >Wooden Spoon Books at 200 N. Fourth ave, Ann Arbor, MI is closing >sometime VERY soon, >possibly within two weeks. The court did NOT see things my way. What question was the court considering? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:16:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61G4wA007309 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:16:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042ECF8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:16:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3179371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:16:01 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61G1205794 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:16:01 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54004O9RIO41@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:16:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:17:17 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC86D9D.2050001@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> I'm currently slogging through A Tale of Two Cities and >>prepping a unit on it. Blah. I've never liked Dickens, and >>I've especially never liked this particular book. >> > > How can you not like Dickens? He is so ... lively (to quote a gentleman > in American Tongues). But TOTC is not his best ... *Shrug* -- just doesn't appeal to me. Heresy, I know. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:23:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61N3wA007340 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:23:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D59A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3179632 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:01 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61N0206490 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:00 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC86F91.56CC85D2@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:25:37 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bethany wrote: > What did the court not agree with? The right to renew a lease, I think. I can't remember all of the details...there are so many of these stories. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:23:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61NFwA007344 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:23:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D59AE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3179648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:09 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail018.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61N9206528 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.218]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106012250.YEEA22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC86EF5.5EE98E1D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:23:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Moreover, the notion of older/younger has no bearing in this case, save That is exactly what a sociologist was saying as I was walking away when this discussion was going on yesterday -- walking away because I had a 1:00 class to get ready for. The sociologist said to the physicist, "But you didn't mention older/younger." The physicist said that the problem many of us have in understanding probability is that it seems counter-intuitive -- or maybe he said it's not intuitive. > that you introduced it. Also, think of the problem another way. If > neither sex is known for certain, what is the probability that one will be > male and one female? Again (ignoring some fine points of population > genetics), the answer is 0.50 (MM, FF, MF, FM). He did say that we were ignoring fine points of population genetics in this question. I meant to get back to it today, but we were too busy talking about how "Boston Public" suddenly improved last night. I love my lunch group. Nobody is a stereotypical anything. The physicist, for example, is a really sharp and knowledgeable scientist, with a PhD from Rice, yet he loves discussing "Boston Public" and "Survivor." But if the conversations drift to black holes or whatever, he goes with the flow and enjoys those topics too. Ditto everybody in the group. We're flowers. Hmm. I mean flow-ers. The constitution of the group is also fluid. Regulars, meaning people there pretty much every day, certain-dayers, as in people who come only on MWF or on TTh, occasionals, as in people who come occasionally, etc. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:24:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61O3wA007352 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:24:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042ED5D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:24:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3179668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:24:00 -0500 Received: from imf18bis.bellsouth.net (mail118.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61O0206585 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:24:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.218]) by imf18bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106012341.YFAB22999.imf18bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC86F2B.F962D832@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:23:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021106004051.E26977C09@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > You can have my share. I've had at least 10, the latest one being Ann Richards. What did Ann say? I have a feeling I'm for it, whatever it was. I like ole Ann. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:30:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61UlwA007395 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:30:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EDB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:30:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3179906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:30:44 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61Ui207189 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:30:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106013223.JSWK706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:32:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC870BB.AE7BD0A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:30:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > How can you not like Dickens? He is so ... lively (to quote a gentleman > in American Tongues). But TOTC is not his best ... -- But he's MESSY, George. -- Of course he's messy. etc. I agree with the one claiming Jane Austen as better. Her little "three inches of ivory," or whatever it was Sir Walter Scott (?) said about her. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:38:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61cdwA007444 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:38:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5A6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:38:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3179865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:38:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:EKVR9E6oWMgMUEz1RqioysJ72cEZ90SY@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61SL207002 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:28:21 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497FA2FE0E for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1E9827C0D; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC86F2B.F962D832@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 5, 2002 7:23:55 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:28:20 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106012821.1E9827C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > You can have my share. I've had at least 10, the latest one being Ann Richards. > > What did Ann say? Don't know; I hung up on her. > I have a feeling I'm for it, whatever it was. I like > ole Ann. I have grown to dislike her intensely, since the only time I hear from her is when she wants my vote. And she has a knack for calling after I've already voted, which makes it worse. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:38:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61cdwB007444 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:38:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5A6E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:38:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3180254 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:38:36 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61cV207887 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:38:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106014011.JYAS706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:40:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC87291.6B028D07@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:38:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Those Children and Probability Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ok, so after posting this stuff to the list, I decided I'd better make sure I wasn't screwing it up. Here's what he said in reply to my e-mail (posted without permission, but I think it's ok): > with statistics questions you have to be *very* very careful how you > phrase the question. When I am recounting the story I am very careful to > say things correctly. > The correct question is: > He buys a gun for the boy. What should the second present be? > The answer is that it is twice as likely that he will need a doll. (2 to > 1). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:41:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61fQwA007467 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:41:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EE4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:41:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3180344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:41:23 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61fN208115 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:41:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106014303.JZUX706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:43:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC8733D.29A99FDD@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:41:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021106012821.1E9827C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I have grown to dislike her intensely, since the only time I hear from > her is when she wants my vote. She doesn't call just to chat? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:43:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61hDwA007475 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:43:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EE66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:43:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3179989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:43:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61XA207390 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:33:10 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA61X8pY011750 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:33:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:33:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC870BB.AE7BD0A@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I agree with the one claiming Jane Austen as better. Her little "three >inches of ivory," or whatever it was Sir Walter Scott (?) said about >her. "Comparisons are odious." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:43:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61hawA007479 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:43:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EE6F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:43:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3180415 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:43:33 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61hX208304 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:43:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106014512.KBCN706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:45:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC873BF.E6A3F56D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:43:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Those Children and Probability References: <3DC87291.6B028D07@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor quoted: > > with statistics questions you have to be *very* very careful how you > > phrase the question. When I am recounting the story I am very careful to > > say things correctly. > > The correct question is: > > He buys a gun for the boy. What should the second present be? > > The answer is that it is twice as likely that he will need a doll. (2 to > > 1). But the followup discussion made clear that it wasn't really about guns and dolls. It was about males and females. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:46:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61kQwA007518 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5AD3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3180559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:46:23 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61kN208612 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:46:23 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021106014618.NLLH6092.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 01:46:18 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105174301.02938b10@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:45:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC870BB.AE7BD0A@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I agree with the one claiming Jane Austen as better. Her little "three >inches of ivory," Austen herself: "...the little bit (two Inches wide) of Ivory on which I work with so fine a Brush...," letter to J. Edward Austen, 1816-12-16. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:52:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61q7wA007538 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:52:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5B1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:52:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3180356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:52:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hryMbGrLoBi6gpLCNcrFYeWMYeROV8GH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61g4208183 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:42:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4228B2FDD3 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F09FF7C0D; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:42:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC8733D.29A99FDD@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 5, 2002 7:41:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:42:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106014203.F09FF7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I have grown to dislike her intensely, since the only time I hear from > > her is when she wants my vote. > > She doesn't call just to chat? No. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:53:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61r7wA007551 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:53:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5B37@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3180865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:53:00 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61r0209253 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:53:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106015440.KGGI706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC875F7.5EBEE3D6@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:52:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105174301.02938b10@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >I agree with the one claiming Jane Austen as better. Her little "three > >inches of ivory," > > Austen herself: "...the little bit (two Inches wide) of Ivory on which I > work with so fine a Brush...," letter to J. Edward Austen, 1816-12-16. I didn't mean that the man on "American Tongues" mentioned that. But I did have it stuck in my head that Scott had. Now I remember why I had that erroneously stuck in my head. I once wrote a paper in grad school involving some kind of comparison of Scott and Austen and using that ivory thing in the title. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:55:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61txwA007559 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:55:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EF15@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:55:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3180990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:55:56 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61tu209532 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:55:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106015736.KHXO706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC876A6.58381ACE@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:55:50 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: How Tacky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU CNN shouldn't really have a projected winner box checked with 0% of the vote in, should it? http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2002/pages/states/MS/H/03/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 19:57:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA61vRwA007566 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 19:57:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EF2F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:57:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:57:24 -0500 Received: from flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net (flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.232]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA61vN209689 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:57:23 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-018neomahp0487.dialsprint.net ([63.190.113.233]) by flamingo.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 189FRa-0001Q7-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:57:23 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:58:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Moose Munch has arrived From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105165942.009fd150@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/5/2002 3:00 PM, bonniev at bonniev@PANAX.COM wrote: > Thank you, Marie. This stuff is pretty tasty. I do note, however, that > there are 1190 calories in the one 10 ounce bag. I shall go at it > slowly. It arrived in good shape, in spite of its overly-large box. > > > --bonniev You can send the left-over calories to me! :-) I'm still at gaining weight, but it's been a losing battle so far. Theo -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:02:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6223wA007625 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:02:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EF7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:02:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:02:00 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6220210333 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:02:00 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.53]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H54ROD00.VMJ for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:19:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:20:44 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Wooden Spoon Books at 200 N. Fourth ave, Ann Arbor, MI is closing > sometime VERY soon, > possibly within two weeks. The court did NOT see things my way. Why does that last make me think that there is more to this story? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:02:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6223wB007625 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:02:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EF7D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:02:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:02:01 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6220210352 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:02:01 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.53]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H54RVU02.HNW for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:23:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:25:13 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I find it very odd that I haven't received any political phone calls at > all. Zero. It's not that they're not happening here. I've heard lots > of local people complaining about them. But I haven't gotten any. Has > word spread that I hate telemarketing? Uh, Natalie? You're not exactly on record as either undecided, or a swing voter. Why waste resources on you? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:06:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA626pwA007697 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:06:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042EFAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:06:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:06:48 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA626m210764 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:06:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106020827.KOAO706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:08:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:06:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Uh, Natalie? You're not exactly on record as either undecided, or a > swing voter. Why waste resources on you? So it's really that fine-tuned? If so, why don't the mailers do likewise. I am disgusted beyond words at finding my mailbox jammed every day with Republican garbage. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:07:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA627ZwA007716 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:07:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EFB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:07:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:07:32 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA627W210845 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:07:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106020911.KOKU706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:09:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC8795E.DF25E268@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:07:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Tacky References: <3DC876A6.58381ACE@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > CNN shouldn't really have a projected winner box checked with 0% of the > vote in, should it? Since I wrote that, it's moved up from 0%. Things move rapidly in this modern world. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:08:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA628JwA007731 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:08:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042EFC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:08:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:08:16 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA628G210907 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:08:16 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021106020811.OJAG6092.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:08:11 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105180702.0312e1e0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:07:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: How Tacky In-Reply-To: <3DC876A6.58381ACE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >CNN shouldn't really have a projected winner box checked with 0% of the >vote in, should it? "Using the exit polls results and a number of sophisticated analysis techniques, VNS also projects winner for each race it covers. CNN will not use exit polls to make projections in close races. CNN will only use exit poll survey data to project a winner when that data indicates one of the candidates has a significant lead at the time that the polls close in that state." Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:08:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA628kwA007736 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:08:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042EFC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:08:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:08:43 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA628h210930 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:08:43 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54004UKTYJBX@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:08:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:09:52 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > >> Uh, Natalie? You're not exactly on record as either undecided, or a >>swing voter. Why waste resources on you? >> > > So it's really that fine-tuned? If so, why don't the mailers do > likewise. I am disgusted beyond words at finding my mailbox jammed > every day with Republican garbage. > My husband the republican has been getting union propaganda (he hates unions and is a registered gop), and I've been getting right wing stuff (I'm a registered dem). Somebody got their lists crossed somewhere. I actually voted libertarian in a couple races today. Eeek. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:10:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62AtwA007759 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:10:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042EFE1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:52 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Aq211125 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.101]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106021232.KQNV706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC87A26.B56E6A6A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:10:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Tacky References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105180702.0312e1e0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > "Using the exit polls results and a number of sophisticated analysis > techniques, VNS also projects winner for each race it covers. CNN will not > use exit polls to make projections in close races. CNN will only use exit > poll survey data to project a winner when that data indicates one of the > candidates has a significant lead at the time that the polls close in that > state." We have no exit polls, afaik. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:16:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62GFwA007823 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:16:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F02F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:16:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3181927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:16:12 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62GB211731 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:16:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.17a.115e4933 (4004) for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:15:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17a.115e4933.2af9d557@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:15:51 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] need an exorcist To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/05/2002 8:09:05 PM Central Standard Time, rouvalis@SWBELL.NET writes: << I actually voted libertarian in a couple races today. Eeek. >> I was going to vote for Richardson, the independent candidate for governor, but his tacky ad about Steve Largent turned me off, so I voted for the Democrat candidate. Richardson's ad said that while the Towers were destroyed, Largent was on vacation. So, he was on vacation; he couldn't have predicted that the Towers would fall; he's neither a telepath or a precognative. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:18:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62IjwA007870 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:18:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F059@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:18:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3182031 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:18:42 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail114.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Ig211919 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:18:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106022022.XBG21537.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:20:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC87BFA.5CFE725A@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:18:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > My husband the republican has been getting union propaganda > (he hates unions and is a registered gop), Anti-union and GOP aren't synonymous (as I'm sure you realize). I've never quite understood unions and thus don't want to go so far as to say I'm *anti*-them. But I'm not pro-them. I grew up thinking of unions as sleazy organizations that took money from hard-working laborers. I think that is probably not a totally fair assessment, but I'm not sure that it's totally off the mark either. Re registering by party, we don't do that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:22:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62MSwA007898 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:22:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5CB3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:22:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3182108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:21:42 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail114.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Lg212108 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:21:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106022321.YDO21537.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC87CB0.9E18C22B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:21:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17a.115e4933.2af9d557@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I voted Reform in one race as a last-minute thought. I really don't hate Thad Cochran and have in fact voted for him on more than one occasion when there wasn't a decent alternative, but I just wasn't in the mood to say yes to any Republican today. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:23:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62NuwA007908 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:23:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042F0C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:23:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3182253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:23:54 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Nr212342 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:23:53 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021106022348.OWMO24285.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:23:48 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105182145.02c3b890@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:23:27 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: How Tacky In-Reply-To: <3DC87A26.B56E6A6A@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105180702.0312e1e0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >We have no exit polls, afaik. VNS was hiring in Mississippi this year: . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:29:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62TfwA007972 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:29:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042F11A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:29:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3182602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:29:38 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail114.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.54]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Tb213082 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:29:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106023117.BBWP21537.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:31:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC87E8C.675F11A1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:29:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Tacky References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105180702.0312e1e0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105182145.02c3b890@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > VNS was hiring in Mississippi this year: . Advertising to hire. But did they hire anybody? I've never known anybody in my ftf life who has encountered an exit poll-taker. Are they common? As in have the rest of you encountered them? I know they exist but have never checked on how many there are. That info is no doubt available on the web. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:30:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62UhwA007998 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:30:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F12D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:30:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3182086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:30:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:eNQpmI1ZZr8mOdk+aZ4a8tsK3nJdEKp6@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62Ke212042 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:20:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38A62FE56 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 882017C0E; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:20:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 5, 2002 8: 9:52 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:20:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106022039.882017C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > I actually voted libertarian in a couple races today. Eeek. Doesn't it feel weird?! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 20:52:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA62qewA008162 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:52:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:52:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3183598 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:52:37 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA62qb215301 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:52:37 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021106025232.QDTQ6092.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 02:52:32 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184732.02778b10@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 18:52:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: How Tacky In-Reply-To: <3DC87E8C.675F11A1@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105180702.0312e1e0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105182145.02c3b890@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I've never known anybody in my ftf life who has encountered an exit >poll-taker. I haven't either. But they generally need only a small sample to give a good guess. Late-breaking news: VNS bailed on exit polling today, deciding they couldn't trust it: (thanks, Google, for searching today's news for me!). CNN still has AP and in "10 key states," RealVote, to fall back on. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:02:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6326wA008232 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:02:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5F01@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:02:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:02:02 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6322216353 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:02:02 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC886C7.1337355D@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:04:39 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Tacky References: <3DC876A6.58381ACE@maynor.net> <3DC8795E.DF25E268@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > CNN shouldn't really have a projected winner box checked with 0% of the > > vote in, should it? > > Since I wrote that, it's moved up from 0%. Things move rapidly in this > modern world. And yet, this morning, CNN was saying, "We will not be making projections." Added to that is the fact that their VNS service that usually provides the statistics for the projections didn't do so tonight because it said its computers were not analyzing their data properly. When Jeff Greenfield announced that about 5 pm, he said it meant that it would be a long night because projections would be totally impossible. Uh huh. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:03:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA633NwA008237 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:03:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5F28@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184266 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:19 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA633J216615 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:19 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC88714.9E302484@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:05:56 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Tacky References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105180702.0312e1e0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > > "Using the exit polls results and a number of sophisticated analysis > techniques, VNS also projects winner for each race it covers. CNN will not > use exit polls to make projections in close races. CNN will only use exit > poll survey data to project a winner when that data indicates one of the > candidates has a significant lead at the time that the polls close in that > state." Except, as I just said, VNS did not provide the data tonight. Check out the story here: http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20021105_1805.html alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:04:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6340wA008244 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:04:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F329@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:57 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA633u216647 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:03:57 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA05595 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:03:56 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4253538699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:03:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:03:55 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:27:05PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 06:03 PM 11/5/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: > >That's kind of unclear--what I mean is this: > > > >Temporarily introduce the notion of older and younger. When you > >are told there is at least one boy, there are THREE cases which > >are equally likely: boy and girl, girl and boy, boy and boy. In > >two of those, the other's a girl. > > Nonetheless, according to Natalie's post, the only question is: What > is the probability of the second child being a girl? The only answer > is: 50% (or 0.50 for statistician types). Not necessarily, if it is conditional on other information. My claim is that it is indeed dependent on the "at least one is a boy" event. > child. In this case, the sex of the "first" child, whether older or > younger, is irrelevant to the question at hand, because the sex of the > first has no effect on the sex of the second. That is not what is given. The sex of a GIVEN child is not given. The information is: there is one boy among the two. The question is: is there a girl among the two? Quite different from asking, how likely is a given child a girl. > Moreover, the notion of older/younger has no bearing in this case, save > that you introduced it. That was for clarifying the problem. I think YOU are introducing it, implicitly, by marking the children. How about this: take the population of all two-kid families. A quarter of them are boy-boy families, and a quarter are girl-girl. So half are boy-and-girl families. Now take out the girl-girl families. What remains? Twice as many families with a girl as families with no girl. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:05:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA635BwA008249 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:05:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5F3F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:05:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:05:07 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6357216821 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:05:07 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H540069GWKJCC@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:05:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:06:11 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC88723.8090808@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021106022039.882017C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Rita Chapman said: > >> I actually voted libertarian in a couple races today. Eeek. >> > > Doesn't it feel weird?! Yes. I know it is essentially voting for nobody, but my other alternative would have been voting for nobody... I just couldn't cast for the major party candidates and not need a shower after. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:09:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA639MwA008277 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:09:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F361@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:09:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:09:19 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA639J217124 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:09:19 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54006WQWRI35@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:09:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:10:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC8881E.3090105@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> <3DC87BFA.5CFE725A@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> My husband the republican has been getting union propaganda >>(he hates unions and is a registered gop), >> > > Anti-union and GOP aren't synonymous (as I'm sure you realize). I've > never quite understood unions and thus don't want to go so far as to say > I'm *anti*-them. But I'm not pro-them. I grew up thinking of unions as > sleazy organizations that took money from hard-working laborers. I > think that is probably not a totally fair assessment, but I'm not sure > that it's totally off the mark either. He blames the unions for the collapse of the steel industry in Youngstown. The unions contributed, but the issues are more complex than that. On the other hand, his uncle founded the communication workers union, and he has been bitching lately about how the the union folks at SBC aren't taking the pay cuts, forced unpaid vacation, and reduction in benefits that he is taking as management. I have mixed feelings about unions -- I think in the long run they've caused improvements in working conditions and the expansion of the blue collar middle class, but I don't think the ends always justify the means. In Missouri, unlike most states, I have the option of whether or not I want to join a teacher's union. > Re registering by party, we don't do that. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:10:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63A8wA008281 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F36D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:10:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:10:05 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63A4217290 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:10:04 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA07589 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 463CE38699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:02 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Juniper Message-ID: <20021106031002.GC6353@pobox.com> References: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> <20021105233059.GA22730@pobox.com> <3DC863C9.55B329DB@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC863C9.55B329DB@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 06:35:21PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Juniper's first name apparently starts with M. > > > http://www.momonwheels.com/sbla/sb/sb92dec16-30.html > > > > Greetings, Dr Maynor, > > > > What the HELL are you talking about? > > Go to the above url and search for "cheating." Hmm. That silly US > punctuation problem. Search for this word: > cheating Why is "Juniper" a fake and "M" not? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:10:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63AhwA008288 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:10:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:10:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:10:40 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63Ae217319 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:10:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC888AB.680ED00E@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:12:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: dog therapist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Germantown made the Albany ABC news tonight. Our school psychologist has a black lab that goes to school with her and is helpful with kids who are reticent in talking to her. They love telling their troubles to Lucy (the dog), though. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:11:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63B6wA008294 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:11:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D5FA0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:11:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:11:02 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63B2217348 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:11:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106031242.OJZY3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:12:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:10:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > How about this: take the population of all two-kid families. A > quarter of them are boy-boy families, and a quarter are girl-girl. > So half are boy-and-girl families. Now take out the girl-girl > families. What remains? Twice as many families with a girl as > families with no girl. Yep. This is what he said he did in class (large classes) when his students were having trouble understanding. When they were skeptical, he had them do shows of hands re their own families. He said they always seemed shocked when the probability he had been explaining . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:14:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63EewA008308 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:14:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F39C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:14:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:14:37 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63Eb217637 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:14:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106031616.OMZY3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:16:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC88917.4EB74378@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:14:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: How Tacky References: <3DC876A6.58381ACE@maynor.net> <3DC8795E.DF25E268@maynor.net> <3DC886C7.1337355D@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > would be a long night because projections would be totally impossible. The truth is that even Spencer could make a pretty safe projection in the particular race I was talking about -- Thad Cochran vs an unheard-of Reform Party candidate. What I thought was tacky, though, was for the projection checkmark to be there on the web page with the total votes tallied as zero. I haven't turned on tv tonight. Is it any more up-to-date than the cnn.com? Too late to turn it on now, though. I'm going to bed pretty soon. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:15:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63FowA008338 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:15:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F3A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:15:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:15:47 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63Fl217732 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:15:47 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54006A1X2BEH@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:15:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:16:51 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Are there nice dentists? To: words-l Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does anybody have a nice dentist? I thought my dentist was nice, but I took Ana in today and there were a lot of comments about how long it has been since her last visit (about 15 months). I should have had her in sooner, but the majority of the time was because Kevin was out of work. Also, he didn't take time to talk to me, and her permanant teeth are coming in and I had some questions that were dismissed with a "she'll need orthodontics." Well, DUH, I know that. I really just wanted some assurance that the field had advanced sufficiently so that she doesn't have to go through what I went through (I had 8 permanant teeth removed and ugly, painful braces for 3 years). He used to be nice...I think... but then I've never had a really personable dentist. Do they exist? Should I be taking SBC's insurance money elsewhere? I mean, I hate for him to lose business because it isn't like the practice is all that busy... I can usually get appointments for the next day, and that's kinda nice, too. I have no idea how I teach all day. I have no people skills. Maybe I have two personalities or something. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:16:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63G5wA008341 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:16:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0042F3AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:16:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:16:02 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63G2217769 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:16:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106031742.OOCT3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC8896D.4DCB6918@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:15:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Juniper References: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> <20021105233059.GA22730@pobox.com> <3DC863C9.55B329DB@maynor.net> <20021106031002.GC6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > Why is "Juniper" a fake and "M" not? Probability? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:17:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63HSwA008348 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:17:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D6018@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:25 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63HP217913 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106031904.OPBW3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:19:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC889C0.DAAE3217@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:17:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Juniper References: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> <20021105233059.GA22730@pobox.com> <3DC863C9.55B329DB@maynor.net> <20021106031002.GC6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: And don't forget that Juniper Sage was a pseudonym for (who? some writer in the '40s?). It seems more likely to me for the M to be real than for somebody to be named after an obscure psyedonym. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:17:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63HYwA008351 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:17:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D601A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:31 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63HV217923 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:31 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA09910 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:17:30 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8058F38699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:17:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:17:30 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021106031730.GD6353@pobox.com> References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:10:57PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > How about this: take the population of all two-kid families. A > > quarter of them are boy-boy families, and a quarter are girl-girl. > > So half are boy-and-girl families. Now take out the girl-girl > > families. What remains? Twice as many families with a girl as > > families with no girl. > > Yep. Heh, if you agree, then you should agree with my "2 out of 3" answer. But you disagreed. People like you give exit polls a bad name. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:19:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63JVwA008358 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:19:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F3CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:19:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:19:27 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63JR218079 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:19:27 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54006ANX8FE2@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:19:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:20:30 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Hey Bethany To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC88A7E.3050902@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>Anybody at your barn have contacts in the St. Louis area? >> > > Give me a couple of days - I'll find out. I had planned to visit Maria > early this week, but it's been raining cats and dogs - Thank you. Here's where I did a lot of training and where she'd go if I still lived up around Lowell: http://www.cutterfarm.com -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:19:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63JhwA008362 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:19:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D602E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:19:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3184854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:19:35 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63JZ218085 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:19:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106032115.OQQX3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:21:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC88A42.D1B8D32C@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:19:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> <3DC87BFA.5CFE725A@maynor.net> <3DC8881E.3090105@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > In Missouri, unlike most states, > I have the option of whether or not I want to join a > teacher's union. Do most states have teachers' unions? I never worked anywhere that did, but then I worked in only a few states. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:26:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63PuwA008384 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:25:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0042F40B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:25:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:25:53 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63Pr218542 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:25:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106032732.OUYX3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC88BBB.45DF6915@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:25:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? References: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Does anybody have a nice dentist? Yes. Mine is nice. > but then I've never had a really > personable dentist. Do they exist? My previous ones were also personable. They do exist. > I mean, I hate for him to > lose business because it isn't like the practice is all that > busy... I can usually get appointments for the next day, and > that's kinda nice, too. Isn't that a major red flag?? I think it's good when a dentist (or any other tooth or body person) makes sure that his/her schedule allows for emergency visits on short notice, but a regular appointment the next day?? I'd say something is mightily strange. I would expect three or four months lead time for just a standard visit. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:27:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63RIwA008402 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:27:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F419@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:27:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:27:11 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63RB218643 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:27:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106032850.OVWJ3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:28:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC88C0A.EA09A724@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:27:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> <20021106031730.GD6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Yep. > > Heh, if you agree, then you should agree with my "2 out of 3" answer. But I did. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:28:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63R2wA008398 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:27:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D6061@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:26:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:26:55 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63Qt218592 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:26:55 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54006I0XKUCC@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:26:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:27:57 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC88C3D.8050300@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> <3DC87BFA.5CFE725A@maynor.net> <3DC8881E.3090105@swbell.net> <3DC88A42.D1B8D32C@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>In Missouri, unlike most states, >>I have the option of whether or not I want to join a >>teacher's union. >> > > Do most states have teachers' unions? I never worked anywhere that did, > but then I worked in only a few states. I don't know. I think most districts join one of the national unions like the NEA or AFT. Missouri has a state union because it was the only one that didn't vote to join up with the NEA in the 70's -- so I can be in the MSTA, NEA, or AFT (but the MSTA is the union with a presence in my district, so presumably that's the one I should belong to). I believe you worked in K12 before all that happened? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:29:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63THwA008415 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:29:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D607A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:29:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:29:13 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63TD218817 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:29:13 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA63TCR05645 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:29:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <009d01c28544$ece9a280$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:30:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Are there nice dentists? > > -- > Rita Rouvalis Chapman My dentist is okay for me, and I've had him for 40 years. But one of my kids didn't like him and went to someone else when he was in high school. Btw have you ever seen the movie "The Dentist"? Once you've seen it, some of the scenes are easily brought back to mind. Really bad. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:31:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63VNwA008451 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:31:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D6095@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:31:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:31:20 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63VK219056 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:31:20 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H540069TXS7E7@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:31:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:32:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC88D46.8080102@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> <3DC88BBB.45DF6915@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Isn't that a major red flag?? I think it's good when a dentist (or any > other tooth or body person) makes sure that his/her schedule allows for > emergency visits on short notice, but a regular appointment the next > day?? I'd say something is mightily strange. I would expect three or > four months lead time for just a standard visit. Is it? I just figured we had too many dentists around here. We only had one in town when I was growing up (one of his eight children was in my class -- had a crush on him for a while). I can get appointments within a week with my regular doctor, but we've got a doctor's office on every other corner, and he's the only D.O. within a reasonable driving distace. My OB when I had Ana had a 9 month waiting period for a first appointment with her. I thought that was insane, but she was the only woman OB in the county at that time, so it made sense. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:31:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63UiwA008441 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:30:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D6091@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:30:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:30:40 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63Ue218999 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:30:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.14]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106033219.OYLA3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:32:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC88CDB.855B3C1D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:30:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> <3DC87BFA.5CFE725A@maynor.net> <3DC8881E.3090105@swbell.net> <3DC88A42.D1B8D32C@maynor.net> <3DC88C3D.8050300@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > up with the NEA in the 70's -- so I can be in the MSTA, NEA, > or AFT (but the MSTA is the union with a presence in my > district, so presumably that's the one I should belong to). > I believe you worked in K12 before all that happened? Yes. I taught in k-12 '65-'69. AFT existed then as a union. I had heard of it but knew pretty much nothing about it. NEA existed as an ordinary professional organization, not a union. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:33:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63XrwA008462 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:33:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F45E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:33:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:33:50 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63Xn219202 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:33:49 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H54004B8XWD9C@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:33:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 21:34:51 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC88DDB.1040300@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> <3DC87BFA.5CFE725A@maynor.net> <3DC8881E.3090105@swbell.net> <3DC88A42.D1B8D32C@maynor.net> <3DC88C3D.8050300@swbell.net> <3DC88CDB.855B3C1D@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>up with the NEA in the 70's -- so I can be in the MSTA, NEA, >>or AFT (but the MSTA is the union with a presence in my >>district, so presumably that's the one I should belong to). >> I believe you worked in K12 before all that happened? >> > > Yes. I taught in k-12 '65-'69. AFT existed then as a union. I had > heard of it but knew pretty much nothing about it. NEA existed as an > ordinary professional organization, not a union. I think you just pre-date the unionization movement wrt teachers. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 21:39:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA63dewA008487 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:39:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F490@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:39:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3185451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:39:36 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA63da219615 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:39:36 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA16447 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:39:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id CD7D538699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:39:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 21:39:35 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021106033935.GE6353@pobox.com> References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:10:57PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Yep. This is what he said he did in class (large classes) when his > students were having trouble understanding. When they were skeptical, > he had them do shows of hands re their own families. He said they > always seemed shocked when the probability he had been explaining > . So it's counterintuitive. No big deal ... Now consider the (as it is, unverified) statistic from the early 80's that among felonies in Bombay, 80% were Muslim names. Now you see a Muslim. What are the chances he will perpetrate something? High, "significantly" high, shrieked all the sturdy common-sensical people around me. Profile them! I grew up hearing this, thus working up total contempt for "common sense". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 22:08:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA648nwA008650 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:08:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D61F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3186552 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:08:45 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA648j222311 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:08:45 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA25111 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:08:45 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1CFEB38699; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:08:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:08:44 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: New York Day 3 Message-ID: <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Nothing much happened in the morning. All I did was walk in a direction I hadn't until then--which would mean east--and finally give in and get a cup of coffee from Starbucks. The only other coffee shop which looked promising from afar turned out empty, dusty and with a for-sale sign stuck on the window. New York's fallen to Starbucks, no doubt about it. It has only prevailed over Hard Rock Cafe (which I *think* I saw), by keeping it cramped within decorous and mannerly confines. The Kinkos and the Cosi cafés are all over. It didn't escape the Magic Wipe of the 90s after all--and it's looking shiny and child- friendly. But that didn't make me panic, and that was good enough. Everyone was talking into their cell phone, nobody was reading anything on the trains--unless you count a Cosmopolitan here and a Bridget Jones there--and the high pitch of activity which I remembered, or thought I did, had not shown up anywhere. It felt smaller, is what. Granted, this city took a bad and traumatic hit, but I think it was really the short glitzy, depersonalizing era which actually did it. We met up at the diner next door, ate, and strode into the park. We talked about a lot of things for 20 blocks or so, and finally reached the house of the Frick Collection. We split up--no other way to do it. It feels like I spent a little more time looking at the gadgets this time. Or should I simply say clocks? Among the "objects" I only found the clocks impressive. The vases etc looked plain, or even ugly. Maybe I only wanted a break from the descriptions of paintings which were tumbling out of the handset. I cracked up when I first switched it on--so ridiculously upper-crust a voice, so *British*, and with an unassailable lisp. I got the image of a darling of all Oxford as he lisped from hall to hallowed hall. And finished the thesis when 24, probably... I am saying I found it funny not stupid. The voice also suggested "I could be a total prick if I wanted to", and such a voice is fine. It's a great antidote to the fadedness that surrounds us. I was so blind before. I am glad I spent all the time I wanted, staring at the Holbeins, Rembrandts and Vermeers. And the English painters. Now I begin to understand approximately what they were after, and for which you must have complete respect. And now I also see that some good can come of surrounding yourself with useless excessive beauty--at least if, at least in death, you open it up to the public. I will go again. Time passed sort of fast. Still, my feet were aching. Sitting down on the train was a relief. Again, by the good luck that permeated the whole trip, we got to the Brooklyn Bridge at the perfect time. And now my brother in law couldn't resist it. The cam came out. And so we had the most punctuated walk ever over the bridge, stopping at every spot which gave any kind of "angle". And I took innumerable pictures--of other people, with their cameras. It was a smoother walk after the lights started coming on over the highways and the city, spread out magnificently and dizzyingly below, and that's when I finally had a brief moment of that "high pitch" of bustle that I had pretty much given up on. If New York is to be homologized to Bombay, then of course Brooklyn is where I grew up. Well, it sounds funny to say it, that's all. So I said. We walked around, got a bit lost, laughed at the "Kennedy Fried Chicken" shack, with a "JFK" logo, agreed immediately on the point that an Indian must be behind this "branding", har har, then found a station and took the train back, to somewhere in the middle of Chinatown. It had gotten dark. What to do but to walk around again. We walked all over the map. Going through Soho, again it felt like it had been Magic- Wiped. He felt it too, and he has not been here before. He said it felt more like a movie set--yes, that's exactly what it was, it was too much of chrome and dark glass and little black dresses. And most weirdly, Indian restaurants made quaint. So we were talking about man and his terroir, and what not, and gradually realizing we were very hungry. I finally brought it up, and no place looked particularly right. We had already agreed we wouldn't go to the Red Cat or anything, we wanted a simple place. Finally, as it does, came a time when we were going to eat at "whatever is on the next block". Which is how we ended up at Katz's. Or, as I like to think, hunger brought us there. So, I still hadn't come across anything which didn't make me absolutely stupid-happy--I had forgotten about Katz's, honestly, it was not on the plan. We went in, and as is the right thing to do, sat at a waited-on table. Maybe we had a slightly different intuition about the place. But it felt completely like home turf. The cam came out again--somewhere, there is some professional coverage of being inside Katz's, ha ha ... It was some wild dog eating. Pastrami, beef--gone, all gone. Cucumbers, pickles--disgustingly gone. Root beer, gone. No fries though--we have religious purity laws. I made the very difficult decision to drink again that night. Such a foundational plan is wasted, absolutely wasted, without the elevation that is Guinness stout. Hoo. We somehow got our fat asses out of the chairs, and we moved around for a while again, and I tried to locate where I'd stayed the last time I was there and failed, we went past McSorley's again, we cracked up at the site of sardars playing sitars in basement restaurants, and finally somewhere far more north, we got on the train. * * * So, yes--I couldn't get rid of that feeling, that somehow it was far more generic now. Or far less Jewish, maybe. Or maybe I hadn't really gone into a *neighborhood*. So many people acting like they were living inside Friends, or Sex and the City. So few old brick walls to buildings, or something ... so little dust or trash. Or something. Too many Indians, too, maybe that gave it a different feeling for me. Indians have gelled into a substantial community now--rich, poor, blue, white, vapid, zesty, conservative, liberal, everything. I wonder, will some great prose or poetry spring out of this sometime? I mean, just--words out of the city, so to say. It would mean a lot to me if this happened. Even in Chicago, where I live has in five years become quite a hive of Pakistani people (among others-- Ethiopians, Nigerians, Cambodians, Russians etc), and it's very... transplanted from the old world, to put it roughly. But it's not Jewish. I hardly know what I mean. There is a buzz, but I don't hear people really arguing about history or language or art, or even politics in any real sense, or groping towards a vision, or trying to solve something difficult. So, this happened in Jewish ghettoes? That would be a good question only if it weren't so vague. And maybe it's happening in these "ghettoes" and I am too dumb, or too blinded by pre-conceived fictions, to see it. Look, I was there to have a good time. * * * I should remember always to put in a non-story from the pub. This is about a couple sitting near the fireplace. Actually there is no fireplace, but it is so obviously where the "fireplace" would be. They looked so ... grim and complicated. Never knew anybody could be that way, except some of these old Swedish couples who live around here ... It is the reason I watched them. Before leaving, the man comes to the bar for a last order. He asks for "a plain lager", and, after much hesitation, a whiskey. What whiskey, asks the girl. Woman. Jack Daniels, says the man, looking like someone who has quickly changed his mind. More precisely, like an entirely whiskey-faced drunk ass who has felt his wallet. She pours it, he peers at the thin sliver at the bottom of the glass. He asks how that came to be. It's a "shot", she says. I get the fleeting idea of buying one more to go into the glass. Don't disturb the universe... I work in New York, daddy, is the tone of what she says. I really liked her so much. A drop of water in it, says the old man. You had to be there to appreciate the exact way she hosed down that glass--enough to make it look substantial, not so much that it lost the shimmer. Sharp as a whip. It's how I became such a drunk--by finding that there are places where drunks are understood. Even in Chicago, where I go, at exactly the right time, a new glass magically appears. At the time when you are not sure you want another, none appears. I don't think I am even visible to her really, as someone separate, but somehow, psychically, she does it. People might drink for various reasons, but one main reason is that it gives you the experience of violently falling in love. It's short-lived, and abstract, but what more do you want. I drew the lesson that had to be drawn from these musings, viz. I was fluthered, bat-eyed, or spaychless, or elephants, or had had quantum sufficio. The next day was going to be suburban mall day, and it was time I faced up to it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 22:08:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA648YwA008646 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:08:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F5E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:08:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3186545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:08:30 -0500 Received: from jandor.look.ca (jandor.look.ca [207.136.80.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA648U222299 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:08:30 -0500 Received: from on-tor-blr-a58-04-792.look.ca ([216.154.19.30] helo=on-tor-blr-a58-03-223.look.ca) by jandor.look.ca with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 189HUQ-0007W2-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 05 Nov 2002 23:08:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.20021105221359.2d9fcc0c@mail.look.ca> X-Sender: jemcinto@mail.look.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 22:13:59 To: English Language Discussion Group From: James McIntosh Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Probability In-Reply-To: <3DC86636.43DCD2C9@maynor.net> References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <20021106000310.GC24239@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:45 PM 11/5/02 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Tushar Samant wrote: > >> > But that's not what you are told ... I read it as saying that SOME one >> > child is male, not that a designated child (say the older one) is male. >> >> That's kind of unclear--what I mean is this: >> >> Temporarily introduce the notion of older and younger. When you >> are told there is at least one boy, there are THREE cases which >> are equally likely: boy and girl, girl and boy, boy and boy. In >> two of those, the other's a girl. > >YES! You got it. And I apologize profusely for screwing up in my quick >"no" upon first reading your answer. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Yes, his reasoning is perfect. Strangely, though, Clyde's answer would be correct for subatomic particles, which follow a different law of statistics. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 22:17:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA64H3wA008712 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:17:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D6510@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:16:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3186430 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:14:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:skYFPZX811XYzc1WvciSOxkAutSAgwAP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA644u221970 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:04:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6EB2FDDB for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 76E4F7C14; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:04:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC88723.8090808@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 5, 2002 9: 6:11 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:04:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Yes. I know it is essentially voting for nobody, but my > other alternative would have been voting for nobody... I > just couldn't cast for the major party candidates and not > need a shower after. Exactly. Although Ligniere gave me a lecture about that, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 5 22:20:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA64KbwA008725 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 22:20:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0042F884@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:20:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3186509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:17:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wGIVX3Ps9cfAdCyrjB0625XKG0w+n5Tj@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA647B222218 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:07:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1182FE04 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5838B7C0D; Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:07:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? In-Reply-To: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 5, 2002 9:16:51 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:07:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106040710.5838B7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Also, he didn't take time to talk to me, and her permanant > teeth are coming in and I had some questions that were > dismissed with a "she'll need orthodontics." Well, DUH, I > know that. I really just wanted some assurance that the > field had advanced sufficiently so that she doesn't have to > go through what I went through (I had 8 permanant teeth > removed and ugly, painful braces for 3 years). He used to > be nice...I think... but then I've never had a really > personable dentist. Do they exist? Yes, I've had two in a row. > I have no idea how I teach all day. I have no people > skills. Maybe I have two personalities or something. Why do you think you have no people skills? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 05:41:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6BfowA012433 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:41:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00430C6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 6:41:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3211900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:41:43 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Bfh200365 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:41:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.47]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106114323.XCES1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:43:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC8FFF1.21342B25@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:41:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? References: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> <3DC88BBB.45DF6915@maynor.net> <3DC88D46.8080102@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > day?? I'd say something is mightily strange. I would expect three or > > four months lead time for just a standard visit. > > Is it? I just figured we had too many dentists around here. That could be, I guess, but I'd check it out. Ask around -- as in ask friends and neigbhors about their dentists. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 05:43:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6Bh6wA012437 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:43:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00430C7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 6:42:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3211923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:42:59 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Bgx200444 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:42:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.47]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106114439.XCRU1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:44:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9003D.2A377D3E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:42:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <17f.115f0f44.2af9af65@aol.com> <3DC864B9.A12BA25A@maynor.net> <3DC86F79.D7FCA901@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC87932.81BCB38F@maynor.net> <3DC879F0.3010307@swbell.net> <3DC87BFA.5CFE725A@maynor.net> <3DC8881E.3090105@swbell.net> <3DC88A42.D1B8D32C@maynor.net> <3DC88C3D.8050300@swbell.net> <3DC88CDB.855B3C1D@maynor.net> <3DC88DDB.1040300@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I think you just pre-date the unionization movement wrt > teachers. Probably. I'd be surprised to hear that teachers around here are in unions, though I've never really inquired. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 05:45:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6BjvwA012466 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:45:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00430CAB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 6:45:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3211645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:45:50 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Bjo200706 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:45:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.47]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106114730.XEAN1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:47:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC900E8.9CFF7621@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:45:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> <20021106033935.GE6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > So it's counterintuitive. No big deal ... Now consider the (as it > is, unverified) statistic from the early 80's that among felonies > in Bombay, 80% were Muslim names. Now you see a Muslim. What are > the chances he will perpetrate something? High, "significantly" > high, shrieked all the sturdy common-sensical people around me. > Profile them! I grew up hearing this, thus working up total > contempt for "common sense". I'd say that this is not counterintuitive. It's just stupid. It's like not understanding that all redheads have bad tempers isn't the same as everybody who has a bad temper is a redhead. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 05:47:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6BlgwA012475 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:47:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D84D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 6:47:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3211723 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:47:34 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail100.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6BlY200923 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:47:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.47]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106114913.XEVX1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:49:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:47:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Rita Chapman said: > > Yes. I know it is essentially voting for nobody, but my > > other alternative would have been voting for nobody... I > > just couldn't cast for the major party candidates and not > > need a shower after. > > Exactly. Although Ligniere gave me a lecture about that, too. Which is better -- doing that or just not voting at all? I was wondering about that yesterday when I heard a couple of people say they weren't going to bother to vote because there was nobody on the ballot they wanted to support. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 05:56:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6BuKwA012524 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:56:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D8557@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 6:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3212053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:56:13 -0500 Received: from imf28bis.bellsouth.net (mail028.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6BuD201526 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:56:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.45]) by imf28bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106115450.ITWN14734.imf28bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:54:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC90353.60301720@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 05:56:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good. I'm not going to delete this yet. Want to savor it again when I get home this afternoon. One quick question, though: Did you take pictures of the spot on the BB where Marie and *uc* decided to get married? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 06:03:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6C33wA012580 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:03:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00430D65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 7:02:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3212336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:02:56 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6C2u218010 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:02:56 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5500HW4LGVCC@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 06:02:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 06:04:12 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9053C.6040705@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > >>Rita Chapman said: >> >>> Yes. I know it is essentially voting for nobody, but my >>>other alternative would have been voting for nobody... I >>>just couldn't cast for the major party candidates and not >>>need a shower after. >>> >>Exactly. Although Ligniere gave me a lecture about that, too. >> > > Which is better -- doing that or just not voting at all? I was > wondering about that yesterday when I heard a couple of people say they > weren't going to bother to vote because there was nobody on the ballot > they wanted to support. I think it indicates that whatever percentage of the voters who go Libertarian or Green feel the parties aren't meeting their needs for some reason. I think taking the straight party vote is kinda cynical, too. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 06:19:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6CJwwA012672 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:19:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00430E34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 7:19:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3213164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:19:51 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail014.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6CJp219408 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:19:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.100]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106122130.NSOA21537.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC908E0.4103CF4A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 06:19:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> <3DC9053C.6040705@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Which is better -- doing that or just not voting at all? I was > > wondering about that yesterday when I heard a couple of people say they > > weren't going to bother to vote because there was nobody on the ballot > > they wanted to support. > > I think it indicates that whatever percentage of the voters > who go Libertarian or Green feel the parties aren't meeting > their needs for some reason. I agree with you. > I think taking the straight party vote is kinda cynical, too. Why? I can't see it as cynical if all the candidates on the ballot that you want to vote for happen to be in the same party. Nor can I see it as cynical if you believe that supporting all the candidates in a particular party is supporting that party's platform in general and you want to support it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 06:46:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6CkMwA012817 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:46:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00430FC1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 7:46:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3214906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:46:15 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6CkE222963 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:46:15 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA6ClHm20711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:47:17 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:47:16 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Juniper Message-ID: <20021106134716.A20682@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DC851E0.6FDDAC55@maynor.net> <20021105233059.GA22730@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021105233059.GA22730@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:30:59PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:30:59PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 05:18:56PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: = > Juniper's first name apparently starts with M. = > http://www.momonwheels.com/sbla/sb/sb92dec16-30.html = = Greetings, Dr Maynor, = = What the HELL are you talking about? Keep up, loser. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 07:51:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6DprwA013117 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:51:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00431618@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 8:51:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3220680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:51:45 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Dpj232119 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:51:45 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16301 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 6 Nov 02 08:51:43 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 6 Nov 02 08:51:26 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:51:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Bye Bye Bill Message-ID: <3DC8D806.28288.1A3722@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC83CA9.B9BD305B@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The one pleasing result from yesterday's voting: 132 DISTRICTS 132 REPORTED (100.0%) MEMBER OF ASSEMBLY-119TH-ONONDAGA TOTAL VOTES - 36,248 VOTES % TOTAL WILLIAM E SANFORD________ REP 12,102 ( 40.8) 14,805 JOAN K CHRISTENSEN_______ DEM 20,132 ( 59.1) 21,441 An editorial in the Post Standard this morning says: Perhaps the election results had something to do with Sanford's tenure in the Onondaga County Legislature. For years, his to-hell-with-the-city attitude affected his comments and votes. Perhaps voters in the city - a major part of the new district - simply remembered that. Sometimes things come around. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 07:55:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6DtAwA013151 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:55:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D932F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 8:55:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3220299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:02 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Dj2231158 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:45:02 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA6Dj0pY027252 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:45:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:44:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? In-Reply-To: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Rita Chapman wrote: >Does anybody have a nice dentist? I thought my dentist was I have a marvelous dentist. He bought the practice of my previous very nice and quite good dentist when he retired - this one is even better. He is the one who found my mother's first tumor - and thereby probably saved her life. He is ex-military, and a few people find him somewhat brusque - I don't. I also like the fact that we can email about things - including next year's projected expenses. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 07:55:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6DtewA013155 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:55:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D9348@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 8:55:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3221076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:32 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6DtW232566 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:32 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:58:06 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Why does that last make me think that there is more to this story? Because you want to take exception to, or cast doubt upon, everything I post? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:06:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6E6XwA013212 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:06:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004317BC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:06:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3221126 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:06:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:k1z4eUc4DaZH7PrDDerwP12Uo+PdgSAg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6DuO232665 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:56:24 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7742FDFB for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE4B67C0D; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:56:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 5:47:27 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 05:56:23 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106135623.DE4B67C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Rita Chapman said: > > > Yes. I know it is essentially voting for nobody, but my > > > other alternative would have been voting for nobody... I > > > just couldn't cast for the major party candidates and not > > > need a shower after. > > > > Exactly. Although Ligniere gave me a lecture about that, too. > > Which is better -- doing that or just not voting at all? I don't think it matters. Voters who couldn't stomach voting Democratic is why the Republicans won what they need. I'm not looking forward to the next six years. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:19:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EJLwA013269 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:19:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D971D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:19:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:19:13 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EJC203997 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:19:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H55RO701.NOX for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:16:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:17:31 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > John Williams wrote: > > Why does that last make me think that there is more to this story? > > Because you want to take exception to, or cast doubt upon, everything I > post? And a pleasant good morning to you too as well, Miz Cresap. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:19:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EJewA013272 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:19:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00431939@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:19:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223503 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:19:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f107.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.107]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EJW204051 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:19:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:19:26 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:19:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:19:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 14:19:26.0989 (UTC) FILETIME=[835B53D0:01C2859F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >I'm still wishing that Marie would write a WHTM about her honeymoon trip, >especially The Lake District of England. But I must not complain now that >I have my moose munch. That wasn't my honeymoon. We honeymooned in the Caribbean. The UK trip was the next year in 2000. If only I had taken better notes... (didn't I write at least a little about it after returning?) Marie _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:20:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EK3wA013276 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:20:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D9738@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:19:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:19:55 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EJt204101 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:19:55 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-153.panax.com [63.163.41.153]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EJrt13596 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106091620.009f2ae0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:19:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? In-Reply-To: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've had nice dentists all my life. My childhood dentist had his office on the second floor of an old building on the main street of Sheboygan, Wisconsin. I had lots of cavities. He used to sing "my bonnie lies over the ocean" to me as he worked on my mouth. I had a nice dentist in Oak Ridge who did wonderful gold caps. The dentist here in Bar Harbor is nice also. He is impressed with my gold caps and tells me to take good care of them. He filled a cavity for me just last Monday. >dismissed with a "she'll need orthodontics." Well, DUH, I >know that. I really just wanted some assurance that the >field had advanced sufficiently so that she doesn't have to >go through what I went through (I had 8 permanant teeth >removed and ugly, painful braces for 3 years). Wow. How come so many kids need orthodontics these days? > Should I be taking SBC's insurance money elsewhere? >Rita Rouvalis Chapman Yes, maybe. What does Ana say? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:20:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EKCwA013279 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:20:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040D973B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:20:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3223549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:20:04 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EK4204159 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:20:04 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H55RPN01.LP5 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:17:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC924B4.632ECFCD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:18:28 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Which is better -- doing that or just not voting at all? No matter who you vote for, "they" get in. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:22:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EMwwA013296 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:22:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004319C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:22:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:22:50 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f181.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.181]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EMo204930 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:22:50 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:22:45 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:22:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:22:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 14:22:45.0026 (UTC) FILETIME=[F9656020:01C2859F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >But her honeymoon was to -- I've forgotten exactly where -- was it >Jamaica? No, wait -- it was St. John's (as in VI, not as in NFLD). Or >was it somewhere else? Anyway, it was somewhere down in that general >direction. That trip to England was later. Who was questioning Natalie's mind? She's got it right. We honeymooned in St. Thomas. We swam, snorkeled, jet-skied, jacuzzied, beached, drank BBCs and Tropical Delights, read, hammocked, and, well, you know wink wink. Pretty much just decompressed and got used to the idea that we'd married one another. An idea which still startles me at times. Marie _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:24:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EOawA013305 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:24:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00431A00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:24:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:24:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f178.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.178]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EOR205504 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:24:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:24:22 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:24:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: New York Day 3 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:24:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 14:24:22.0404 (UTC) FILETIME=[33701440:01C285A0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >Good. I'm not going to delete this yet. Want to savor it again when I >get home this afternoon. One quick question, though: Did you take >pictures of the spot on the BB where Marie and *uc* decided to get >married? For the record, it was on the northwest side of the Brooklyn-side tower. Marie _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:25:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EPZwA013339 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:25:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00431A1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:25:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:25:27 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EPR205726 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:25:27 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H55RYM00.SNS for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:23:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC925F6.4271B0EA@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:23:51 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Tushar, you do have your moments. 8-) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:25:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EPnwA013342 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:25:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00431A23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:25:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224527 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:25:41 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EPf205756 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:25:41 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-153.panax.com [63.163.41.153]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6EPet14680 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:25:40 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106092306.009f8b00@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:25:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? In-Reply-To: <3DC88D46.8080102@swbell.net> References: <3DC889A3.6030506@swbell.net> <3DC88BBB.45DF6915@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Is it? I just figured we had too many dentists around here. >Rita Rouvalis Chapman We have sufficient dentists here too. And not all that many people in residence in November. There was an opening to get my cavity done the morning after it was discovered during the six-month cleaning. But I opted to wait until the next opening which was four days away. However, I think Natalie makes a good point. This guy doesn't seem very busy. Can you ask some mothers of other little girls what dentist they use? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:27:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6ERuwA013351 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:27:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00431A5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:27:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3224772 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:27:44 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6ERc206102 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:27:38 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H55S2900.4Q2 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:25:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC9267A.B1E5A141@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:26:02 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: >If only I had taken better notes... You did, but your handwriting was shaky. ;-> JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:38:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EclwA013434 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00431BC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:38:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3226010 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:38:38 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Ecc208133 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:38:38 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-87.panax.com [65.114.190.87]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Ecbt17158 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:38:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106093259.00b40918@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:38:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Bye Bye Bill In-Reply-To: <3DC8D806.28288.1A3722@localhost> References: <3DC83CA9.B9BD305B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:51 AM 11/6/2002 -0500, BrP wrote: >The one pleasing result from yesterday's voting: It looks like redistricting took away his "safe" seat. That area may be like a lot of such areas in the nation---the "country vs. big city" issue. In Illinois, there used to be (probably still are) state legislators of districts surrounding Chicago and downstate who built their entire careers (and successive re-elections) on simply opposing whatever Chicago wanted. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:40:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6Ee8wA013446 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:40:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00431C09@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:40:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3226369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:40:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Edx208372 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:39:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-153.panax.com [63.163.41.153]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Edwt17376 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:39:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106093501.009f8ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:39:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >That wasn't my honeymoon. We honeymooned in the Caribbean. The UK trip was >the next year in 2000. If only I had taken better notes... > >(didn't I write at least a little about it after returning?) >Marie Yes, you said you had a nice time and liked the Lake District. But that was about it. One of the main things I'd like to know is if you really liked the place you stayed in the Lake District and if you would stay there again. We've been there twice and each time I felt like we could have done better on the accommodations without a good clue as to what that better would be. Also: did you hike? did you love the stone walls? did you see lots of sheep? did it rain all the time? did you love Scotland? did you see stone circles? Also, dear Marie, I can't read the handwriting on the note with my Moose Munch. I got everything but the last word: "Bonniemae --- Please forgive my dilatoriness. I am very bad at matters requiring the p.o. or actual visits to the ????. --- Marie" I think it is cute that people on this service call me Bonniemae. I was almost never called that in my youth or adulthood. But I like it. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:55:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EtpwA013522 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DA039@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:55:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3229364 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:55:43 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Eth212550 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:55:43 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id IAA01446 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:42 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8905538699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:55:42 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021106145542.GA29303@pobox.com> References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> <20021106033935.GE6353@pobox.com> <3DC900E8.9CFF7621@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC900E8.9CFF7621@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:45:44AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'd say that this is not counterintuitive. It's just stupid. It's like > not understanding that all redheads have bad tempers isn't the same as > everybody who has a bad temper is a redhead. But is there a significantly high probability? That was the question. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 08:57:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6EvbwA013531 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:57:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DA0D0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 9:57:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3229666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:56:57 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Euv212818 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:56:57 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id IAA01949 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:56:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1A9AA38699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:56:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:56:56 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 Message-ID: <20021106145656.GB29303@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> <3DC90353.60301720@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC90353.60301720@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:56:03AM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Good. I'm not going to delete this yet. Want to savor it again when I > get home this afternoon. One quick question, though: Did you take > pictures of the spot on the BB where Marie and *uc* decided to get > married? I don't know what you are talking about. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 09:01:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6F1owA013568 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:01:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00431FA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:01:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3230199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:01:41 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6F1f213827 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:01:41 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id JAA03926 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:01:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id DB62238699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:01:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:01:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 Message-ID: <20021106150140.GC29303@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:24:22AM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > >From: Natalie Maynor > >Good. I'm not going to delete this yet. Want to savor it again when I > >get home this afternoon. One quick question, though: Did you take > >pictures of the spot on the BB where Marie and *uc* decided to get > >married? > > For the record, it was on the northwest side of the Brooklyn-side tower. Oh, that ... I took about 350 shots from different angles. Since they have fenced it off for building a memorial, sneaking in took some pretty intrepid moves. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 09:10:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6FAcwA013602 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:10:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004320FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:10:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3229900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:08:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ZR1v+3hQKJO1l0bCvw9anQ/FDzIXtOdT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Ewt213293 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:58:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFB22FEBD for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9EB0B7C0F; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:58:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Tool Lust To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:58:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106145854.9EB0B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lust is such a funny thing. I just an ad on TV for a 'laser level'--it sends out a 30 ft. line of light along the surface for you to line things up with. Now that I come to think of it, I wonder how it stays on the wall. (Sound of tape rewinding...) Hm. It kind of clamps down. Okay. I want one! I have no idea how much they cost, but lust is like that... Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 09:17:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6FHnwA013652 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:17:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DA5EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:17:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3232742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:17:40 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6FHe216733 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:17:40 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-48.panax.com [65.114.190.48]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6FHdt24643 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:17:39 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106101630.009e4c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 10:17:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <20021106145854.9EB0B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Lust is such a funny thing. I just an ad on TV for a 'laser level'--it >sends out a 30 ft. line of light along the surface for you to line >things up with. --Karen That would be great for the first roll of wallpaper one puts on a wall in an older house where nothing is really a straight line. Karen how are you feet? Is the plantar fasciitis better? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 09:49:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6FnHwA013850 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:49:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004325CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:49:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3235866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:49:05 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Fn5224465 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:49:05 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:48:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 10:51:26 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > And a pleasant good morning to you too as well, Miz Cresap. Sorry. My mood is not good for reasons that should be obvious. Also, I am having a really bad time trying to breathe. I have done my antibiotics. I have forced myself to eat. But this is now Day 15 of the bronchitis or whatever affliction it is, and it makes me unpleasant. The doctor is to call me when he gets in at 1:00 (yes, he works on Wednesdays because he does not play golf) to decide what the next step is. I worry that I won't be able to take care of Spike. And that is my sad story. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 09:51:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6FpiwA013875 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:51:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043261D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3236138 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:51:35 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6FpY225119 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:51:34 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id RAA14606 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:51:33 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA14523 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:51:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC93A39.79C3178C@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:50:18 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> <3DC84031.AF87E4B7@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm trying to > remember now the date I was in Tallinn. You WERE? YOU WERE IN TALLINN????!!!! Sorry for these cries. I'll be back in two hours, after the choir rehearsal, and then I ask you how it happened that you were in Tallinn. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 09:51:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6FptwA013878 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:51:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00432622@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3236150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:51:47 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Fpk225150 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:51:46 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H55VYH01.1QR for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:49:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC93B11.BBD5611E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:53:54 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust References: <20021106145854.9EB0B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU See what owning a house will do to you? 8-/ JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 09:57:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6Fv8wA013922 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:57:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043269F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:56:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3235699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:56:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1+JQS+kVxNg6bC7G1MTTJTo7ua0o4jSo@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Fkx223875 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:46:59 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 877FC2FE6B for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5B71B7C0E; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:46:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106101630.009e4c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 6, 2002 10:17:25 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:46:58 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106154658.5B71B7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > That would be great for the first roll of wallpaper one puts on a wall in > an older house where nothing is really a straight line. Well, I think my house is pretty straight, but I can see going around aligning everything. (Like, the white board in my office appears to be straight, and the bookcase appears to be straight, but they aren't parallel. I could use this to figure that out. > Karen how are you feet? Is the plantar fasciitis better? Better? I'm not sure what you're talking about. Since the first bout, which lasted about two weeks, I haven't had any real problems. It threatens to come back now and then, but wearing shoes takes care of it. It's a non-issue. Did I complain about my feet hurting recently? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:01:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6G1WwA013964 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:01:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DAC30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:01:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3236064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:00:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:/igz4rhOVfNr7B1n9a8+KSqug3b7/ciA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Fok224947 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:50:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBA52FDBF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A7867C09; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:50:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The story continues... In-Reply-To: <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 10:51:26 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:50:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106155046.2A7867C09@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Sorry. My mood is not good for reasons that should be obvious. Also, I > am having a really bad time trying to breathe. I have done my > antibiotics. I have forced myself to eat. But this is now Day 15 of the > bronchitis or whatever affliction it is, and it makes me unpleasant. The > doctor is to call me when he gets in at 1:00 (yes, he works on > Wednesdays because he does not play golf) to decide what the next step > is. I worry that I won't be able to take care of Spike. And that is my > sad story. Oh, Alyce! I'm sorry you're not getting better. Has the dr started you on steroids? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:05:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6G51wA013986 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:05:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DACEB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:04:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3236491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:04:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JwfS3sOv9ZVbG3Tuy5xECvvOPLoGcYtP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Fsr225991 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:54:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D922FDF4 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5D28C7C11; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:54:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <3DC93B11.BBD5611E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 6, 2002 8:53:54 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:54:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106155452.5D28C7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > See what owning a house will do to you? 8-/ Yeah. Ligniere borrowed my drill a while back, and even though I don't need it right now, I still think about this all the time because this is a VERY NICE drill. Not too heavy, not too light, juuuuust right. Everyone who uses it says "Oooh, this feels good!" But it's mine, mine, mine. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:06:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6G6iwA013997 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:06:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043285C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:06:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3239229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:06:35 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6G6Z230675 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:06:35 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-94.panax.com [65.114.190.94]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6G6Yt01794 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:06:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106110525.00a03830@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:06:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <20021106154658.5B71B7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106101630.009e4c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Better? I'm not sure what you're talking about. Since the first bout, >which lasted about two weeks, I haven't had any real problems. It >threatens to come back now and then, but wearing shoes takes care of >it. It's a non-issue. Did I complain about my feet hurting recently? >Karen No you didn't complain recently. That's why I wondered. You sure were lucky that the bout only lasted two weeks. Mine lasted three years. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:08:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6G8mwA014010 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:08:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004328B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:08:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3239528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:08:40 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6G8e231372 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:08:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:07:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC93ECD.77EF045C@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:09:49 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <20021106155046.2A7867C09@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > Oh, Alyce! I'm sorry you're not getting better. Has the dr started you > on steroids? But I've been on steroids for four years. My three inhalers contain steroids. Which is why I have to take the Fosomax. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:21:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6GLDwA014099 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:21:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00432A43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:21:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3240524 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:21:04 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6GL4201347 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:21:04 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA6GL3R25644 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:21:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004401c285b0$c15b0020$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: The story continues... Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:22:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Sorry. My mood is not good for reasons that should be obvious. Also, I > am having a really bad time trying to breathe. I have done my > antibiotics. I have forced myself to eat. But this is now Day 15 of the > bronchitis or whatever affliction it is, and it makes me unpleasant. The > doctor is to call me when he gets in at 1:00 (yes, he works on > Wednesdays because he does not play golf) to decide what the next step > is. I worry that I won't be able to take care of Spike. And that is my > sad story. > > alyce May today be the day you turn a corner and suddenly start feeling better. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:24:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6GOMwA014117 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:24:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DAF51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:24:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3239971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:24:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:oCrPqh1iXPVjRGWqDdhMyHIoop3iSSvv@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6GEC232375 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:14:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426A52FEBD for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6A86B7C0A; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:14:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106110525.00a03830@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 6, 2002 11: 6:20 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:14:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > No you didn't complain recently. That's why I wondered. You sure were > lucky that the bout only lasted two weeks. Mine lasted three years. I know. I was delighted that it was a small, manageable problem for me. My sister just turned 40 and she's having problems with her iliotibial band--I had that, too, but hers is much worse. More persistent, because she didn't know immediately what to do. Pilates has been a godsend for me. The only other thing I want, that I've actually seen offered around here but can't afford, is instruction in falling. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:25:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6GPfwA014126 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:25:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DAF9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:25:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3240084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:25:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:QnQiNR3D/5SeTc28zzZT8IG0KJIEa5SN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6GFX232638 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:15:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2E52FEBE for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A578A7C12; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:15:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The story continues... In-Reply-To: <3DC93ECD.77EF045C@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 11: 9:49 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:15:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106161529.A578A7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Oh, Alyce! I'm sorry you're not getting better. Has the dr started you > > on steroids? > > But I've been on steroids for four years. My three inhalers contain > steroids. Which is why I have to take the Fosomax. Well, you'd probably have bone problems anyway, having been a smoker and being slender. I forgot that you were already on them. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:36:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6GauwA014205 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:36:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00432C5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:36:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3241942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:36:48 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Gal204968 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:36:47 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-94.panax.com [65.114.190.94]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Gakt07762 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:36:46 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106113609.00a06930@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:36:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106110525.00a03830@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The only other thing I want, that I've actually seen offered around here >but can't afford, is instruction in falling. >Karen Take Tai Chi, develop sure footing, and don't fall. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:46:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6GkPwA014264 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:46:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00432D50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:46:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3241910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:46:16 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6GaG204853; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:36:16 -0500 Received: from yahoo.com (a183008.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.183.8]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA6GaDs32018; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:36:14 -0500 Reply-To: Message-ID: <037a53b27a1d$2877e8c2$2bd07ee6@ieygmd> From: To: help.your.family@pasta.cc.uga.edu Subject: Pay off your bills today Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:32:37 +0700 MiME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.501) Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU New Page 1
 

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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 10:59:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6GxUwA014330 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:59:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00432F40@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:59:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3244814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:59:22 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6GxL211106 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:59:21 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA6H0Pr21331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:00:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:00:24 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021106180024.A21270@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DC7B1DB.64987FB9@maynor.net> <20021105142002.A17766@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3DC78063.1262.1F0984FA@localhost> <20021105160607.B17929@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021105164336.A18249@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021105182606.GC16368@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021105182606.GC16368@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:26:06PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:26:06PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:43:36PM +0100, steph wrote: = > On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:06:07PM +0100, steph wrote: = > = On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 08:25:08AM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: = > = = >...a bog of self-reference... = > = = = > = = = > = = I LOVE this phrase = > = = = > = = = > = = BrP = > = = > = That was the point. Unfortunately this author seems to have = > = spent most of their time on fnord-l. = > = > So I've traced down someone who seems to have known who this = > Juniper Sage is. (A librarian, they're all librarians, in the = > beginning the internet was techies. Then came the librarians.) = > We'll see what I get. = Juniper Sage was really Chris Headington, and he died in October 1993. They, the SBRHYM-Lers, the Stony Brook Literary Underground, at least the two I've heard from, miss him as much as we miss Giggles. steph From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 11:06:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6H6rwA014383 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:06:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DB4E3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:06:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3245591 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:06:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6H6d212841 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:06:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC94CB4.DEAF8277@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:09:08 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <20021106161529.A578A7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Well, you'd probably have bone problems anyway, having been a smoker > and being slender. I forgot that you were already on them. Well, my bones are considered "young," by those who study them. The Fosomax is preventive or preventative, as preferred. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 11:07:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6H7TwA014387 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:07:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00433067@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:07:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3245668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:07:20 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6H7K213031 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:07:20 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:07:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC94CDE.9F8ADFA4@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:09:50 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> <004401c285b0$c15b0020$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote > May today be the day you turn a corner > and suddenly start feeling better. Thanks. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 11:19:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6HJNwA014442 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:19:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004331E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:19:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3245788 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:19:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:u2z6VYykIFBRSyCMIdfwlBNBK1gGciel@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6H96213347 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:09:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326582FE4C for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CB03B7C0F; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:09:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106113609.00a06930@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 6, 2002 11:36:32 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:09:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106170905.CB03B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >The only other thing I want, that I've actually seen offered around here > >but can't afford, is instruction in falling. > >Karen > > Take Tai Chi, develop sure footing, and don't fall. Nice dream world! My footing is sure, but with my right leg so much shorter than my left leg, it's unrealistic to think that I will never fall. Pilates is All About Balance, too, you know. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 11:27:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6HRnwA014495 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:27:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004332FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:27:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3246699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:27:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:No7TyvpZbFC0LyAaBu2/J1f4mp9rAAYO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6HHT215397 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:17:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C58C2FE20 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F19577C0F; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:17:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The story continues... In-Reply-To: <3DC94CB4.DEAF8277@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 12: 9: 8 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:17:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106171728.F19577C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Well, you'd probably have bone problems anyway, having been a smoker > > and being slender. I forgot that you were already on them. > > Well, my bones are considered "young," by those who study them. The > Fosomax is preventive or preventative, as preferred. Good for your dr. I do hope you start feeling better soon. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 11:42:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6HgUwA014578 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:42:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DB918@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:42:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3248800 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:42:20 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f70.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.70]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6HgJ219754 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:42:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:42:14 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:42:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Probability Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:42:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 17:42:14.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7A57A80:01C285BB] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Tushar Samant >Temporarily introduce the notion of older and younger There's no logical reason to do that. Marie _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 11:55:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6HtPwA014669 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:55:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004335DB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:55:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3249903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:55:16 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f110.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.110]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6HtF221828 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:55:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:55:10 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:55:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:55:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 17:55:10.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[A62DD590:01C285BD] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >actual visits to the ????. --- Marie" bank. I think I was writing leaning on the air. Re the PO and the bank, I can't seem to make it to places that require me to be there between 9 and 5. I think JMW can't read my writing either if I've deciphered him correctly. >I think it is cute that people on this service call me Bonniemae. I was >almost never called that in my youth or adulthood. But I like it. You'll always be Bonniemae to me. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:06:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6I6MwA014749 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:06:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DBC78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3251229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:06:13 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f92.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.92]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6I6C223780 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:06:12 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:06:07 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:06:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:06:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 18:06:07.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DBE5010:01C285BF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Rita Chapman >Does anybody have a nice dentist? So far seems nice. I switched from my dentist on Central Park South -- who was really nice and pulled my wisdom tooth out like it was impacted in soft butter -- to the closest dentist to my house. He's young and good looking, and most importantly his breath didn't smell (nor did the hygienists -- I actually went ONCE to a dentist with bad breath) and seems like a nice person. I might miss my CPS dentist. I am keeping my dermatologist in the city because he is extra special, and I like the occasional excuse to go in. But I've given up my gyn, my primary care doctor, and my dentist. Marie _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:11:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IBZwA014769 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:11:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004337F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3251803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6IBP224599 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:11:25 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust158.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.160]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC95BE7.E2BE9F0D@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:13:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Bethany--the reason why Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Because the landlord won't give us a lease, and wants to do something else with the space. We've endured so much crap from the landlord- They don't like our political signs in the windows, our lease was just month then to be renewed after all the remodeling (two years worth), they claim they can't do remodeling with us there, they've accused us leasing the space for living quarters for one of our workers (he stayed there at night in the summer to keep the doors open because the landlords hadn't installed the Air Condition unit as promised. They want change of use, and won't negoiate with us. The judge ruled in their favor on Monday. Our rent is paid. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:20:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IKBwA014854 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:20:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DBF41@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:20:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3251619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:20:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6IA0224301 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:10:00 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA6I9xpY002702 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:09:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:09:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Marie Ascher wrote: >>I think it is cute that people on this service call me Bonniemae. I was >>almost never called that in my youth or adulthood. But I like it. > >You'll always be Bonniemae to me. Hmmm ... I have always assumed that bonnie and c****, as used on this , were pseudonyms. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:26:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IQHwA014889 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:26:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DC0C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:26:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3254306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6IQ7228061 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:26:07 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-87.panax.com [65.114.190.87]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6IQ5t31653 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:26:05 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106132450.00b45108@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:26:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:09 PM 11/6/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Hmmm ... I have always assumed that bonnie and c****, as used on this >, were pseudonyms. > >Bethany ...assumption is the mother of all f***ups From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:26:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IQTwA014892 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:26:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DC0D3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:26:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3252688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:26:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6IGJ225885 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:16:19 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA6IGHpY007690 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:16:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:16:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bethany--the reason why In-Reply-To: <3DC95BE7.E2BE9F0D@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > Because the landlord won't give us a lease, and wants to do something >else with the space. [rest deleted] Oh. Thanks. This goes on a lot here in the Old City - mostly it is a ploy to charge the next tenant more rent. This tactic of major property owners is the reason the Old City will never be a neighborhood - it had great promise, but this kind of stuff has killed it. The downtown neighborhoods will be on Market Sq. and N. Gay Street. I am surprised there was even an opportunity to go to court - ususally there is not. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:28:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6ISvwA014904 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:28:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00433A6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:28:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3254619 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:28:48 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6ISm228581 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:28:48 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA6ISl49058733 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECC6A744 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:28:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: The story continues... Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:28:47 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <000701c285c2$58b63140$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3DC93ECD.77EF045C@valstar.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:10 AM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: The story continues... > > >Karen Kay wrote: >> >> >> Oh, Alyce! I'm sorry you're not getting better. Has the dr >started you >> on steroids? > >But I've been on steroids for four years. My three inhalers contain >steroids. Which is why I have to take the Fosomax. > >alyce > Possibly a different antibiotic or same antibiotic and longer duration. I had bronchic problems which required two different antibiotics. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:38:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IcDwA014975 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:38:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00433B5A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:38:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3255523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:38:04 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Ic3230066 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:38:03 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA6Ic2R03727 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:38:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301c285c3$e5b422e0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106101630.009e4c60@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Tool Lust Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:39:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Lust is such a funny thing. I just an ad on TV for a 'laser level'--it > >sends out a 30 ft. line of light along the surface for you to line > >things up with. --Karen > > That would be great for the first roll of wallpaper one puts on a wall in > an older house where nothing is really a straight line. > --bonniev Yes! That would be great. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:41:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IfswA015001 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:41:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00433BAF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:41:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3255708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:41:41 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Ife230573 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:41:40 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA29236 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:41:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D3FFC38699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:41:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:41:39 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor Message-ID: <20021106184139.GA9991@pobox.com> References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> <3DC84031.AF87E4B7@maynor.net> <3DC93A39.79C3178C@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC93A39.79C3178C@akad.ee> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:50:18PM +0200, Kristin Sarv wrote: > You WERE? YOU WERE IN TALLINN????!!!! > > Sorry for these cries. Would you like to talk about it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:44:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IiXwA015021 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:44:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00433BDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:44:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3255897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:44:23 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6IiN231037 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:44:23 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA00736 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:44:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8ED8038699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:44:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:44:22 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021106184422.GB9991@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:42:14PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: >From: Tushar Samant > >Temporarily introduce the notion of older and younger > > There's no logical reason to do that. That's like saying there is no logical reason to introduce "x" in a word problem ... Logical reasons have no place in hunting for the solution. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:52:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6IqWwA015098 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:52:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DC409@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:52:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3255744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:52:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:TILGIRz4439hiN/6YndE7G1R1d0KZkBs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6IgL230698 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:42:21 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB122FDC5 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8BFFE7C1E; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:42:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Bethany--the reason why In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 6, 2002 1:16:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:42:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106184214.8BFFE7C1E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > Because the landlord won't give us a lease, and wants to do something > >else with the space. [rest deleted] > > Oh. Thanks. This goes on a lot here in the Old City - mostly it is a ploy > to charge the next tenant more rent. It's how I was 'forced to leave' my apt. in CA. (Luckily I had already decided to move before I got the notice.) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 12:55:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6ItJwA015112 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:55:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DC45F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:55:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3255953 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:55:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:O7Fd8yl+eNS2Kd+1M46B1KAXVbmIxNUb@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Ij8231214 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:45:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546832FDCB for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F34717C9A; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:44:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <001301c285c3$e5b422e0$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 6, 2002 12:39:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:44:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106184406.F34717C9A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > >Lust is such a funny thing. I just an ad on TV for a 'laser > level'--it > > >sends out a 30 ft. line of light along the surface for you to line > > >things up with. --Karen > > > > That would be great for the first roll of wallpaper one puts on a wall > in > > an older house where nothing is really a straight line. > > --bonniev > > Yes! That would be great. One of the applications they showed was wallpaper; another was hanging pictures all in a line. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 13:38:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6JckwA015377 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:38:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00434321@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:38:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3262056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:38:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6JcY208826 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:38:34 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.70.25d28373 (2519) for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:38:29 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <70.25d28373.2afac9b5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:38:29 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Tool Lust To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/06/2002 9:10:46 AM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Lust is such a funny thing. >> Did you see the Buffy episode last night? It was about lust. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 13:43:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6Jh8wA015447 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:43:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043438A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:42:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3262399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:42:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Jgv209519 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:42:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H566NN02.ZQU for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:40:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC9713A.F938F6B7@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 12:44:58 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > I think JMW can't read my writing either if I've deciphered him correctly. What, I can't make out your typing? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:05:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6K5SwA015617 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:05:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00434657@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:05:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3263918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:05:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f140.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.140]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6K5F227932 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:05:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:05:10 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:05:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Tool Lust Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:05:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 20:05:10.0179 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF42EF30:01C285CF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Evelyn Duncan >Lust is such a funny thing. > >> > >Did you see the Buffy episode last night? It was about lust. I voted for Lust. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:06:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6K6SwA015623 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:06:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DCE69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:06:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3263957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:06:17 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f89.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.89]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6K6H228033 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:06:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:06:11 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:06:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:06:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 20:06:11.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4124E00:01C285CF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: John Williams >Marie Ascher wrote: > > I think JMW can't read my writing either if I've deciphered him >correctly. > > What, I can't make out your typing? My mistake. All will become clear, my friend. Marie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:14:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KEDwA015662 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:14:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043479F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:14:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3264592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:14:02 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6KE2229643 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:14:02 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:14:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC978A3.1DC2F8E3@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:16:35 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Hmmm ... I have always assumed that bonnie and c****, as used on this > , were pseudonyms. Amazing. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:16:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KG7wA015700 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:16:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004347D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:15:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3264700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:15:56 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6KFu229938 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:15:56 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:15:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC97916.16622DEF@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:18:30 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <000701c285c2$58b63140$48305b80@EAGLE72> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Alec D. Plotkin" wrote: > Possibly a different antibiotic or same antibiotic and longer duration. > I had bronchic problems which required two different antibiotics. Dr. has not called back yet, but I agree with you and am going to ask for tetracycline. Haven't had that for a long time, but it always has worked well and is cheap, too. Amoxycillin never helps me at all. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:21:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KLDwA015732 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:21:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004348C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:21:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3265995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:20:54 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6KKr231609 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:20:53 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA02075 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:20:52 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA01977 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:20:49 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC97957.F0EAD32F@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:19:36 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I walked along Royal Mile in Edinburgh in the evening and noticed a counter on the street where pieces of Celtic knotwork were on sale. I had thought beforehand that knotwork pendants might make good gifts to bring with me from the trip. After looking at them more closely I felt I need to think over whether these very were the proper pendants to buy. The seller said he was going to sell them there for about one more hour that evening which seemed enough for me to have a cup of coffee nearby, calculating my finances and what would fit for which receiver of a pendant. I entered a noisy pub (they were all noisy, btw, but as a tourist I wasn't disturbed by it but took it as a local colorite) and asked for a cup of coffee. The eyebrows of the barman rose. They rose high. - Coffee-ee-e? - Yes, a cup of coffee, please, I mumbled less decisively, feeling there's something wrong. As his eyebrows almost touched the ceiling I asked, astonished and weakly smiling, whether the didn't have coffee. No-o-o-o, he answered, astonished and smiling weakly. So I just made my way backward to the door, perplexed and richer by a piece of knowledge that in Scotland both the signifier and the signified of the above-mentioned dark beverage were apparently unknown in pubs and one shouldn't ever mention them. Well, I was quite content with a glass of dark velvet beer in another pub, and soon acquired those wonderful pendants that were gladly received later on by those I gave them. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:24:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KONwA015748 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:24:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00434957@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:24:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3266713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:24:12 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6KOB200484 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:24:11 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id WAA03439 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:24:10 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id WAA03356 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:24:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC97A20.B6612031@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:22:56 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> <3DC84031.AF87E4B7@maynor.net> <3DC93A39.79C3178C@akad.ee> <20021106184139.GA9991@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:50:18PM +0200, Kristin Sarv wrote: > > You WERE? YOU WERE IN TALLINN????!!!! > > > > Sorry for these cries. > > Would you like to talk about it? Thanks :) I'd rather would like to hear from Natalie about her visit. But perhaps she has written about her impressions already, on the days I neither received msgs nor read the archives. Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:43:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KhawA015898 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:43:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00434BEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:43:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3269184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:43:24 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6KhO206179 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:43:24 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:43:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC97F85.61075402@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:45:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs References: <3DC97957.F0EAD32F@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > > I walked along Royal Mile in Edinburgh in the evening and noticed a > counter Excellent. I like it so far. More, please? alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:45:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KjQwA015937 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:45:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00434C2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:45:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3268053 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:45:16 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6KZG203668 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:35:16 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA6KZ4pY027980 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:35:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:35:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC978A3.1DC2F8E3@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >> Hmmm ... I have always assumed that bonnie and c****, as used on this >> , were pseudonyms. > >Amazing. > >alyce Perfectly natural, I think. How many have a "bonnie and c****">? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:47:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KlowA015959 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:47:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DD534@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:47:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3269865 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:47:40 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Kle207693 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:47:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:47:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC98085.E8A5261E@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:50:13 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Perfectly natural, I think. Yabbut, you've been around for a while now. None of us has a pseudonym. I can't imagine why you'd think it. But, never mind. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 14:59:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6KxdwA016031 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:59:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00434DC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:59:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3270065 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:59:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ivt0xrDMyQrKYTXXnbS1H0y23S+R+n6x@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6KnS208130 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:49:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFDD72FE02 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:49:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2749A7C0E; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:49:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 6, 2002 3:35: 4 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:49:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106204927.2749A7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > >> Hmmm ... I have always assumed that bonnie and c****, as used on this > >> , were pseudonyms. > > > >Amazing. > > > >alyce > > Perfectly natural, I think. How many have a "bonnie and > c****">? Did you think the Voigtlander was a pseudonym, too? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:01:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6L1jwA016063 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:01:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DD6F9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:01:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3271104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:01:35 -0500 Received: from vi.eenet.ee (daemon@vi.eenet.ee [193.40.0.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6L1Y210324 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:01:34 -0500 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id XAA20339 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:01:29 +0200 Received: from akad.ee ([193.40.40.70]) by vi.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA20256 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:01:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3DC982DE.630A9FFC@akad.ee> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 23:00:14 +0200 From: Kristin Sarv Organization: Akadeemia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs References: <3DC97957.F0EAD32F@akad.ee> <3DC97F85.61075402@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Kristin Sarv wrote: > > > > I walked along Royal Mile in Edinburgh in the evening and noticed a > > counter > > Excellent. I like it so far. I'm glad you like it > More, please? Only step by step, I guess. Meanwhile I answer questions that Marie was asked by Bonniemae: >did you love the stone walls? Yes. They remind me of Estonian stone walls, only the stone is different. >did you see lots of >sheep? Yes, they make a pattern of the landscape! >did it rain all the time? No, only during the second half of the trip. We escaped the flood in Edinburgh, the next day after our leaving it there was no electricity bacause of the flood. >did you see stone circles? Castlerigg. We patted all the stones and raised our hands with open palms to get mystic energy, just in case :) Kristin From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:09:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6L9twA016121 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:09:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DD809@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:09:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3272009 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:09:44 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6L9e212341 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:09:40 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA22109 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:09:39 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3762F38699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:09:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:09:38 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens Message-ID: <20021106210938.GA26902@pobox.com> References: <20021106204927.2749A7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021106204927.2749A7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 12:49:26PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Did you think the Voigtlander was a pseudonym, too? I do. What the hell kind of name is that? A pathetic ploy to attract attention away from "Bonnie and Clyde". What a farce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:12:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LCqwA016131 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:12:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00434FA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:12:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3272367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:12:41 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LCe213333 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:12:41 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LCZt05454 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:12:35 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106161046.00a0a290@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:12:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs In-Reply-To: <3DC982DE.630A9FFC@akad.ee> References: <3DC97957.F0EAD32F@akad.ee> <3DC97F85.61075402@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Castlerigg. We patted all the stones and raised our hands with open palms >to get mystic energy, just in case :) --Kristin Wonderful! That's my favorite one. I even have a picture of it as my computer wallpaper. I stood in the middle of it during a rain shower and raised my hands to the heavens while I turned in a circle. Somehow, Castlerigg felt more sacred to me than the cathedrals in London. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:13:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LDewA016139 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:13:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00434FD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:13:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3272428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:13:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LDT213439 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:13:29 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-57.panax.com [65.114.190.57]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LDSt05678 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:13:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106161243.009fb370@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:13:12 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <20021106210938.GA26902@pobox.com> References: <20021106204927.2749A7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <20021106204927.2749A7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Did you think the Voigtlander was a pseudonym, too? > >I do. What the hell kind of name is that? A pathetic ploy to >attract attention away from "Bonnie and Clyde". What a farce Indeed. Almost as pathetic as dumbass. Oops, Dumas. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:16:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LGLwA016177 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:16:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DD8C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3271683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LTmLQF+RPifqlkxRJ0t4RP0RbSKq4qtA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6L65211622 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:06:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6084F2FE37 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 754897C1F; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:06:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <70.25d28373.2afac9b5@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Nov 6, 2002 2:38:29 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:06:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106210604.754897C1F@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > In a message dated 11/06/2002 9:10:46 AM Central Standard Time, > karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > > << > Lust is such a funny thing. > >> > > Did you see the Buffy episode last night? It was about lust. Were they for or against? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:17:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LH6wA016185 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:17:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DD8D7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3272674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:55 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LGt214195 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:55 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA6LGt49483313 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1438DA3E9 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Ch.Dickens Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:16:55 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <000001c285d9$d5bb1400$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106161243.009fb370@pop3.norton.antivirus> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of bonniev >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:13 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens > > >> > Did you think the Voigtlander was a pseudonym, too? >> >>I do. What the hell kind of name is that? A pathetic ploy to >>attract attention away from "Bonnie and Clyde". What a farce > >Indeed. Almost as pathetic as dumbass. Oops, Dumas. > > > --bonniev > Ouch!! alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu "Any smoothly functioning technology will have the appearance of magic." - Arthur C. Clarke From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:17:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LHQwA016191 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:17:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DD8F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:17:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3271822 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:17:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:dxTFSqYZuhC0FjzqIBEAfmXtC/+wujBL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6L7E211854 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:07:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5270A2FE3A for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F364E7C15; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:07:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC98085.E8A5261E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 3:50:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:07:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106210713.F364E7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > > Perfectly natural, I think. > > Yabbut, you've been around for a while now. None of us has a pseudonym. > I can't imagine why you'd think it. But, never mind. Red. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:34:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LYowA016282 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:34:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043527E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:34:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3274512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:34:39 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LYd218688 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:34:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:34:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:37:09 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106210713.F364E7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Red. But that is new. We all have used our own names all along. Unless, perhaps, Bethany is not Bethany? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:40:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LeiwA016314 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:40:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00435331@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:40:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3275270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:40:30 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LeT220262 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:40:30 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA6LeT49091936 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94ADFA527 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:40:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:40:30 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <000101c285dd$20db6130$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of alyce cresap >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:37 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 > > >Karen Kay wrote: >> >> Red. > >But that is new. We all have used our own names all along. Unless, >perhaps, Bethany is not Bethany? > >alyce > Some people have not used their spouses or friend's names in posting. That is the only time I can think of the use in our service. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:47:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LlNwA016367 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:47:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DDD29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:47:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3274622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:47:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:SFyzISwFlP3ocFdVylum7cvrno+kCzej@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LbB219000 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:37:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6689C2FDEF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F02417C1B; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:37:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 4:37: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:37:09 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106213709.F02417C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Red. > > But that is new. We all have used our own names all along. Unless, > perhaps, Bethany is not Bethany? Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those are nicknames, not pseudonyms. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:50:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LofwA016397 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:50:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435461@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:50:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3276131 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:50:30 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LoU222147 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:50:30 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:50:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC98F38.E0FC7F99@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:52:56 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106213709.F02417C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those > are nicknames, not pseudonyms. Yes, and we know their real names. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:51:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6LpZwA016406 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:51:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435477@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3276192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:24 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LpN222263 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:23 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ACX27863; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EAT69684; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:48:58 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DC901AA.31797.88C456@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021106213709.F02417C1B@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 4:37: 9 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6 Nov 2002 at 13:37, Karen Kay wrote: > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those are > nicknames, not pseudonyms. There was the case of The Ronin, which was a sort of pseudonym to a point--or maybe a nom de keyboard. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 15:52:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6Lq5wA016436 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:52:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435480@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3276214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1DAHBGzcyLXgcBC5s2yru3hxusPgCoH/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Lpr222306 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:51:53 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A16E2FE2A for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:51:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 15BB92B6E3; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33A82B666 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:51:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:51:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Internet Librarian In-Reply-To: <20021106213709.F02417C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Here I am; I just introduced myself to Dan Lester, who is giving a presentation at this very moment (but I have to take a plane). I'm pretty sure Dan didn't know who I was (though I did mention Words-L) ha ha Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:00:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6M0vwA016569 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:00:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DDEDD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3277063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f13.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6M0j223878 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:00:45 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:00:40 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:00:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:00:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 22:00:40.0363 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1F917B0:01C285DF] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: alyce cresap > > Red. > >But that is new. We all have used our own names all along. Unless, >perhaps, Bethany is not Bethany? Janet used to be Verdant. I'm not sure Shoshana was always Shoshana. My name isn't really Marie. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:02:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6M2wwA016605 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:02:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043562D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:02:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3278136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:02:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f162.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6M2l224711 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:02:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:02:41 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:02:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:02:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Nov 2002 22:02:41.0863 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A648570:01C285E0] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just wrote a really boring, long WHTM for bonnie's enjoyment, and sent it to words-l, but I think it got eaten by internet goblins. Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com >From: bonniev >Reply-To: English Language Discussion Group >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs >Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:12:19 -0500 > >>Castlerigg. We patted all the stones and raised our hands with open palms >>to get mystic energy, just in case :) --Kristin > >Wonderful! That's my favorite one. I even have a picture of it as my >computer wallpaper. I stood in the middle of it during a rain shower and >raised my hands to the heavens while I turned in a circle. Somehow, >Castlerigg felt more sacred to me than the cathedrals in London. > > > --bonniev _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:03:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6M3WwA016613 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:03:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE085@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:03:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3276278 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:03:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Fa5JAJegsN37AbD3evLKVTkcFuNrTFWP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6LrK222525 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:53:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B392FDCF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BDBD97C2C; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC98F38.E0FC7F99@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 4:52:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:18 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106215319.BDBD97C2C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those > > are nicknames, not pseudonyms. > > Yes, and we know their real names. But only because they chose to tell us--Ken's email is bookrat@bookrat.com, which is pretty opaque. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:04:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6M3xwA016618 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:03:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE08D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:03:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3276332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:03:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NX1PawTyZ0lpup1wMmUTtzHrhSffNA4l@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Lrk222598 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:53:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB952FDFA for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86C537C30; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC901AA.31797.88C456@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 6, 2002 11:48:58 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:53:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106215344.86C537C30@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 6 Nov 2002 at 13:37, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those are > > nicknames, not pseudonyms. > > There was the case of The Ronin, which was a sort of pseudonym to a > point--or maybe a nom de keyboard. True. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:06:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6M6UwA016637 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:06:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE0ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:06:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3278550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:06:18 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6M6I225405 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:06:18 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id QAA22810 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:06:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C3BFE38699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:06:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:06:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs Message-ID: <20021106220617.GB2925@pobox.com> References: <3DC97957.F0EAD32F@akad.ee> <3DC97F85.61075402@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106161046.00a0a290@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106161046.00a0a290@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 04:12:19PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > >Castlerigg. We patted all the stones and raised our hands with open palms > >to get mystic energy, just in case :) --Kristin > > Wonderful! That's my favorite one. I even have a picture of it as my > computer wallpaper. I stood in the middle of it during a rain shower and > raised my hands to the heavens while I turned in a circle. Somehow, > Castlerigg felt more sacred to me than the cathedrals in London. Have you no sense of self-preservation? If it was my ancestor he'd be PISSED ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:12:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MCfwA016680 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:12:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435734@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:12:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3279183 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:12:30 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MCU226338 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:12:30 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-38.panax.com [65.114.190.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MCSt19619 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:12:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106170810.00a0b010@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:08:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <20021106213709.F02417C1B@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those >are nicknames, not pseudonyms. --Karen When Janet first came on, she used Lady Green. But someone made her stop. Maybe it was Marty, who used Nipper. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:13:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MDswA016689 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:13:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043574B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:13:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3279286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:13:43 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MDg226519 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:13:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.10]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106221522.BSEL7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9940D.4DAE4EC3@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:13:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did you wear shoes in NYC? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:14:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MEBwA016694 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:14:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE206@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:14:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3279319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:14:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MDx226560 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:13:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-38.panax.com [65.114.190.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MDwt19946 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:13:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106171312.009fa930@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:13:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I just wrote a really boring, long WHTM for bonnie's enjoyment, and sent it >to words-l, but I think it got eaten by internet goblins. >Marie I appreciate the effort and hope it was not eaten. Is it still in your outbox as sent mail?? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:17:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MHOwA016764 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:17:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435797@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:17:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3279671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:17:12 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail022.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MHCk27486 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:17:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.10]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106221845.QIEA1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:18:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC994E2.FA63BB76@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:17:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> <20021106033935.GE6353@pobox.com> <3DC900E8.9CFF7621@maynor.net> <20021106145542.GA29303@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > But is there a significantly high probability? That was the question. No. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:18:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MIQwA016805 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:18:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE2A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:18:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3279793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:18:15 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail122.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MIFk27701 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:18:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.10]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106221948.QIYG1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:19:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC99520.7566FB7A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:18:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> <3DC90353.60301720@maynor.net> <20021106145656.GB29303@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > pictures of the spot on the BB where Marie and *uc* decided to get > > married? > > I don't know what you are talking about. the northwest side of the Brooklyn-side tower -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:19:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MJ2wA016810 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:19:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004357CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:18:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3278876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:18:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lhUhLpbI/3mafqc+rejYKCUwT5qEsUGw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6M8n225825 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:08:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93DC2FE08 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A1D667C38; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:08:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Nov 6, 2002 5: 0:40 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:08:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > Janet used to be Verdant. I'm not sure Shoshana was always Shoshana. My name > isn't really Marie. Shoshana was always Shoshana. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:20:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MK3wA016825 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:20:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004357E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:19:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3279930 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:19:52 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MJpk27915 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:19:51 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id QAA29561 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:19:51 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0F04438699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:19:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:19:50 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability Message-ID: <20021106221950.GA4629@pobox.com> References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> <20021106033935.GE6353@pobox.com> <3DC900E8.9CFF7621@maynor.net> <20021106145542.GA29303@pobox.com> <3DC994E2.FA63BB76@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC994E2.FA63BB76@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 04:17:06PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > But is there a significantly high probability? That was the question. > > No. WRONG The answer is "depends". Right? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:21:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MLVwA016845 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:21:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE31D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:21:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3280132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:21:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MLIk28204 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:21:18 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id QAA00449 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:21:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5789538699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:21:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:21:18 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 Message-ID: <20021106222118.GB4629@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> <3DC9940D.4DAE4EC3@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC9940D.4DAE4EC3@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 04:13:33PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Did you wear shoes in NYC? Who is this addressed to? I constantly wear shoes now. Partly due to getting into too many complications with uncomprehending people who simply won't let go. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:33:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MXhwA016939 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:33:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043591D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:33:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3281269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:33:32 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MXVk30653 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:33:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.198]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106223511.RCBX14545.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:35:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC998B2.3F780C4@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:33:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> <3DC84031.AF87E4B7@maynor.net> <3DC93A39.79C3178C@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > You WERE? YOU WERE IN TALLINN????!!!! Yes. I discovered that there were fast boats from Helsinki. The problem was that you had to buy the round-trip ticket for a specific return time -- like you couldn't decide how long to stay after you got there. So I went on and chose a fairly early boat back. I got there in mid-to-late morning and headed back to Helsinki in mid afternoon. When I got off the boat in Tallinn, I walked up to the Old City, where I wandered around for a good while. Then I headed back down toward the dock, going through some kind of warehouse-looking shopping area at one point, a place with lots of motorcycles around it, and into a regular mall close to the dock, hoping I might find computers. I did find one public computer, but by the time I'd changed a euro into Estonian money to put into the computer (I'd been able to use euros for food and a t-shirt), somebody else had sat down there and seemed to be settling in. I had thought it would be way cool to send you e-mail from Tallinn. But it was time then to head back to the boat to head back to Helsinki. I was amazed at how much beer people were bringing onto that return boat. Apparently Finns go to Tallinn to buy beer. They were using dollies to roll multiple cases of Estonian beer onto the boat. I'm trying to remember what date this was. It was in early August. Wait -- I think I saw the boat-ticket stub in my purse a few days ago. Lemme look. ... Found it! It was 4 August. Left Helsinki at 10:05, left Tallinn at 15:00. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:50:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MoCwA017053 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:50:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435A55@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3282365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:01 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail016.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Mo1k00385 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.103]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106225135.ENGK26289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:51:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC99C8D.EFB6099D@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:49:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > doctor is to call me when he gets in at 1:00 (yes, he works on > Wednesdays because he does not play golf) to decide what the next step > is. I worry that I won't be able to take care of Spike. And that is my > sad story. I hope you've reported to the list by now on what he said! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:50:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MoowA017059 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:50:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00435A63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3282438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:39 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail116.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Modk00527 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.103]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106225218.ENQD26289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:52:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC99CB8.5452B498@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:50:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust References: <20021106145854.9EB0B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC93B11.BBD5611E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > See what owning a house will do to you? 8-/ I have no lust for a laser light. It's ok with me if things are crooked. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:53:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MrWwA017110 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:53:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435AA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:53:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3282867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:53:20 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail116.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MrKk01387 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:53:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.103]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106225500.EPAP26289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:55:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:53:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust References: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > actually seen offered around here but can't afford, is instruction in > falling. Why don't you teach yourself via trial-and-error. See what works before you get too old to bounce. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 16:56:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6MuhwA017125 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:56:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00435AE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:56:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3283073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:56:31 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail116.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6MuVk01762 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:56:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.103]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106225811.ERHQ26289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:58:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC99E19.8B778741@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:56:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust References: <20021106170905.CB03B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > My footing is sure, but with my right leg so much shorter than my left > leg, it's unrealistic to think that I will never fall. Pilates is All Why are your legs different lengths? You should pray about it. I think I've mentioned before the MSU student who became Miss America some number of years ago and told about how one of her legs had been shorter than the other but that she had prayed about it and that God made them the same length. I can't remember whether God made the short one grow longer or the long one grow shorter. Anyway, she claimed that they matched after God's help. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 17:00:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6N09wA017171 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:00:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE6EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:59:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3283315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:59:57 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail016.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Mxvk02185 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:59:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.103]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106230137.ETXP26289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:01:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC99EE7.19B1207B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:59:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > and most importantly his breath didn't smell (nor did the hygienists -- I > actually went ONCE to a dentist with bad breath) and seems like a nice An oral surgeon I dated many moons ago shaved his armpits as an odor-preventive. He said he didn't want to risk hanging over a patient with odiferous armpits. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 17:02:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6N2MwA017188 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:02:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE785@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:02:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3282707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:02:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:CgT7rzwix/QXhjueWz58aSQgwE9THkwn@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6Mq5k01077 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:52:05 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438152FE21 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B431D7C22; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <3DC99CB8.5452B498@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 4:50:32 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:52:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021106225202.B431D7C22@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > John Williams wrote: > > > > See what owning a house will do to you? 8-/ > > I have no lust for a laser light. It's ok with me if things are > crooked. But you're a well known Mutant. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 17:04:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6N4YwA017199 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:04:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE7B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:04:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3283869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:04:23 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail116.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.56]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6N4Nk02850 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:04:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.103]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021106230602.EWMD26289.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:06:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC99FF0.EAEAB749@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:04:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bethany--the reason why References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > This tactic of major property owners > is the reason the Old City will never be a neighborhood - it had great > promise, but this kind of stuff has killed it. Is nobody turning old buildings into condos there -- as in buyers rather than renters? Seems to me that that's the way to make a neighborhood more (except here in Starkpatch, where condos are almost all rented to students -- as in somebody buys a condo but with no intention of living in it). But I guess the owners of the apartment buildings don't want to sell them. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 17:08:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6N8wwA017227 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435BFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3284162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:08:47 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6N8lk03424 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:08:47 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA6N8ju29288 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:08:45 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c285e9$b7526620$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Tool Lust Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:09:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > actually seen offered around here but can't afford, is instruction in > > falling. > > Why don't you teach yourself via trial-and-error. See what works before > you get too old to bounce. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I am still recuping from my fall a month ago. Still have headaches. My eye doctor told me today I must go have a CAT scan. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 17:17:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6NH6wA017315 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:17:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435C95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:16:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3284744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:16:54 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6NGrk04496 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:16:54 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6NGqt01978 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:16:52 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106181544.00b95d60@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:16:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <3DC99E19.8B778741@maynor.net> References: <20021106170905.CB03B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:56 PM 11/6/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >Why are your legs different lengths? You should pray about it. I think >I've mentioned before the MSU student who became Miss America some >number of years ago and told about how one of her legs had been shorter >than the other but that she had prayed about it and that God made them >the same length. I can't remember whether God made the short one grow >longer or the long one grow shorter. Anyway, she claimed that they >matched after God's help. Actually, what happened was that one side of her brain atrophied so that she thinks her legs are the same length. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 17:32:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6NWdwA017503 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:32:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DE9C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:32:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3285489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:32:27 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6NWRk06308 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:32:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA6NWQu29084 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:32:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c285ed$05cc1780$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021106170905.CB03B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106181544.00b95d60@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: Tool Lust Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:34:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 04:56 PM 11/6/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: > > >Why are your legs different lengths? You should pray about it. I think > >I've mentioned before the MSU student who became Miss America some > >number of years ago and told about how one of her legs had been shorter > >than the other but that she had prayed about it and that God made them > >the same length. I can't remember whether God made the short one grow > >longer or the long one grow shorter. Anyway, she claimed that they > >matched after God's help. I remember this girl. Was it Cheryl something? I remember her singing that song (which I can't think of right now), but it was very dramatic and she sang with that star-struck raptured look that born-agains get when they perform. Perhaps her leg was shortening at that very moment. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 17:40:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA6NeNwA017538 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:40:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00435E0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:40:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3285864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:40:11 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA6NeBk07264 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:40:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:40:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9A8EE.689C4BC4@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:42:38 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> <3DC99C8D.EFB6099D@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I hope you've reported to the list by now on what he said! > I wish. He did not call. He *always* calls. I can only think that the receptionist did not give him the message. I'll call in the morning. The thing is that he is in G'town only on Tuesday and Thursday. If he wants to see me, it has to be tomorrow, or else I have to wait five days until next Tuesday. This really is unlike him. He has called in the past as late as 6:00, but I doubt he is still working at this hour. I've been just lying in bed with CNN on. Sometimes dozing, sometimes not. Had some split pea soup and crackers. Just got up to let Spike out. Breathing is not bad at the moment. It comes and goes in spurts of goodness and badness. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:12:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70C2wA017746 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:12:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436045@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:11:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3287648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:11:50 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70Bok10891 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:11:50 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H560053DJ7PMN@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:11:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:13:04 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9B010.5010007@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> <3DC9053C.6040705@swbell.net> <3DC908E0.4103CF4A@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Why? I can't see it as cynical if all the candidates on the ballot that > you want to vote for happen to be in the same party. Nor can I see it > as cynical if you believe that supporting all the candidates in a > particular party is supporting that party's platform in general and you > want to support it. Cynical because I think the voter isn't looking at candidates as individuals. For example, I don't like our county executive one bit. He happens to be a democrat, so in that race I voted for the republican candidate, who sounded good enough to me to give him a shot. Of course, the county executive doesn't do anything with social services, and a fiscal conservative is good in that position, so it would be cynical of me to have voted for the guy I don't like -- who keeps a nickname like "Buzz" into adulthood anyway -- simply for party platform reasons. Regardless, "Buzz" won. An interesting phenomenon of punching the straight ticket hole is how the judge voting turns out here. We voted simply to retain judges, and if they happened to be the opposite party, the straight ticket vote registers as against retaining the judge of the opposite party. So all the judges had almost the same number of votes -- the votes against were slightly higher than the number of straight ticket voters. The vast majority of voters have no opinion on circuit judges since the vast majority have nothing to do with them. So I think it is cynical to vote to boot somebody out of a judgeship simply because they're of the opposite party. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:14:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70EIwA017756 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:14:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436068@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:14:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3287815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:14:06 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70E6k11296 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:14:06 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5600IEQJBHE6@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:14:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:15:20 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9B098.2020802@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106091620.009f2ae0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Wow. How come so many kids need orthodontics these days? I think because we're less tolerant of bad looking teeth. > > Should I be taking SBC's insurance money elsewhere? > > Yes, maybe. What does Ana say? I don't think she cares, but I think I'll go dentist shopping. We do have pediatric dentists around here -- one within a short walk from the house actually -- but it never occurred to me that it would be useful to go to one because I never did. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:16:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70GZwA017785 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:16:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436081@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:16:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3287879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:16:23 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70GNk11530 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:16:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107001803.OPKE10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:18:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B0CE.F17D00DD@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:16:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs References: <3DC97957.F0EAD32F@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > So I just made my way backward to the door, perplexed and richer by a > piece of knowledge that in Scotland both the signifier and the signified > of the above-mentioned dark beverage were apparently unknown in pubs and > one shouldn't ever mention them. I wonder if they had tea. About what time was it? At least back a good many years ago, some pubs in England (but I'm not sure about Scotland) turned into tea places at exactly the time of day USAers think of as cocktail hour. > Well, I was quite content with a glass of dark velvet beer in another > pub, and soon acquired those wonderful pendants that were gladly > received later on by those I gave them. Excellent. And I love your description of pub #1. I do hope you'll tell more! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:20:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70KOwA017808 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:20:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004360B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:20:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:20:12 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70KCk12051 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:20:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107002151.OSHK10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:21:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B1B5.9D1AA534@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:20:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> <3DC84031.AF87E4B7@maynor.net> <3DC93A39.79C3178C@akad.ee> <20021106184139.GA9991@pobox.com> <3DC97A20.B6612031@akad.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Kristin Sarv wrote: > Thanks :) I'd rather would like to hear from Natalie about her visit. I loved my visit to Tallinn. That was perhaps my favorite day of my trip. In fact, I think I would say that it definitely was my favorite. I was sorry I couldn't stay longer. The people were friendly, I adored the Old City (which I realize is probably more of a tourist attraction now than being representative of ), and I would like to have seen more of the city. I thought about you the whole time, of course. I remember when the boat was docking that I looked out at the nearby streets and thought, "I wonder whether Kristin drives along those streets." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:20:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70KVwA017812 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:20:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DECF3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:20:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288086 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:20:19 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70KJk12072 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:20:19 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5600MJDJLUZ8@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:20:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:21:32 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9B20C.5040302@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021106040710.5838B7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > >>I have no idea how I teach all day. I have no people >>skills. Maybe I have two personalities or something. >> > > Why do you think you have no people skills? > Because I'm a little oversensitive to whether somebody is annoyed with me, so I overcompensate or just don't feel right, etc. Whatever. Not very interesting. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:21:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70LgwA017823 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:21:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004360C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:21:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288115 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:21:30 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70LUk12160 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:21:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107002309.OSZW10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:23:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B203.454E0C58@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:21:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106210713.F364E7C15@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Red. > > But that is new. We all have used our own names all along. Unless, > perhaps, Bethany is not Bethany? Don't forget The Ronin. And Elwood. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:22:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70MLwA017830 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:22:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004360CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:22:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288151 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:22:09 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70M9k12244 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:22:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107002349.OTKH10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:23:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B22A.25638166@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:22:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106213709.F02417C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those > are nicknames, not pseudonyms. I don't consider names imposed by others as at all the same thing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:23:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70NdwA017840 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:23:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004360DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70NRk12404 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107002507.OUJO10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:25:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B278.A529F215@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:23:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 6, 2002 4:37: 9 pm" <3DC901AA.31797.88C456@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > There was the case of The Ronin, which was a sort of pseudonym to a > point--or maybe a nom de keyboard. I think he did tell his his real name. But Elwood hasn't made that public knowledge, afaik. Didn't Dave Pretty of RI have a pseudonym also? I'm blanking on what it was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:24:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70OGwA017844 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:24:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DED1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:24:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:24:04 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70O4k12469 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:24:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107002543.OUVI10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:25:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B29D.38B4C5E6@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:23:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Internet Librarian References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > I'm pretty sure Dan didn't know who I was (though I did mention Words-L) Love it! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:24:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70OpwA017851 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:24:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DED22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:24:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3287841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:24:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XfmeBqcbN1KuZ76FvMwv8cbHsPRGak52@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70Eek11350 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:14:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7FC2FE3B for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 812C87C12; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:14:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Breastfeeding is incest To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:14:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107001439.812C87C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Says Madonna! It makes me wonder what drugs she's on.:) >From http://www.gist.com: "Material Mom Madonna was disgusted by a recent "Good Morning America" story that featured footage of a mother breast-feeding her 8-year-old son, reports New York's Daily News. The segment in question aired in July and showed Lynn Stuckey, who was the subject of an investigation by Illinois child-welfare officials, nursing her son. Madonna told radio talk-show host Rick Dees that ABC's decision to air the breast-feeding video was "unforgivable." She said: "People have no morals, I swear to God. The things that people do for ratings!" The singer, herself a mother of two children, called Stuckey's behavior "incest" and explained: "The world is collapsing. Why is there a tape of [her nursing]? It's terrible. That child will never recover. How dare 'Good Morning America' play that tape." When asked about Madonna's tirade against the morning show, a "GMA" representative told the News, "We'd be happy to welcome her on the show to discuss this issue." " Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:26:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70Q8wA017870 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:26:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DED2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:25:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3287870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:25:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:MbSYmLiXSk+d0AMQXE6lrb1KMcWXZoRs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70Fuk11493 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:15:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04572FE26 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9DDB67C0E; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:15:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC9B010.5010007@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 6, 2002 6:13: 4 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:15:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107001555.9DDB67C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > keeps a nickname like "Buzz" into adulthood anyway -- simply > for party platform reasons. Regardless, "Buzz" won. I know an adult Buzz (an artist in Chicago) whom I like very much. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:27:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70RKwA017876 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:27:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436105@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:27:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:27:05 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70R5k12765 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:27:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107002843.OXTH10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B350.AC772AE3@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:26:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106215319.BDBD97C2C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > alyce cresap said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those > > > are nicknames, not pseudonyms. > > > > Yes, and we know their real names. > > But only because they chose to tell us--Ken's email is > bookrat@bookrat.com, which is pretty opaque. ?? Of course they told us their real names since they weren't the ones who assumed the other names, except maybe well after having been given them by us. Or at least that's true with Boo and Giggles. I'm trying to remember now when Chris turned into Lobstrosity -- as in whose creation that was. In any case, it was after we already knew him as Chris. It's not as if any of the above landed on the list with those names in place. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:33:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70XWwA017952 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:33:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436166@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:G8okr6xL7+dRBQz93kTRic/8hQDyGvHS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70NFk12380 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:23:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDDF2FE48 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86F207C14; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:23:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? In-Reply-To: <3DC9B20C.5040302@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 6, 2002 6:21:32 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:23:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107002314.86F207C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > >>I have no idea how I teach all day. I have no people > >>skills. Maybe I have two personalities or something. > >> > > > > Why do you think you have no people skills? > > > > > Because I'm a little oversensitive to whether somebody is > annoyed with me, so I overcompensate or just don't feel > right, etc. Whatever. Not very interesting. I think of people who have no people skills as being entirely insensitive. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:33:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70XWwB017952 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:33:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436167@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:20 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70X9k13520 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107003448.PCUQ10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:34:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B4BE.ABC506B5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:33:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > Janet used to be Verdant. I'm not sure Shoshana was always Shoshana. My name > isn't really Marie. Indeed (re Janet). But what I can't remember now is whether she told us right off the bat that her real name was Janet. I think she did. Re Shoshana, I remember when she told us that she had decided to become Shoshana, but I can't remember what her earlier name was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:34:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70YnwA017965 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:34:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436178@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:34:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:34:37 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70Yak13664 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:34:37 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021107003431.HBNO12281.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:34:31 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106162906.03137c20@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:33:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <20021107001439.812C87C12@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay forwards, > From http://www.gist.com: "Material Mom Madonna was disgusted by a >recent "Good Morning America" story that featured footage of a mother >breast-feeding her 8-year-old son, I'm all for not weaning kids too early, but 8 years seems a bit long. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:34:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70YuwA017969 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:34:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436179@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:34:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:34:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:K5EE5ZexOiNqwsVJyd8EelVo/vnyvUFt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70Ohk12504 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:24:43 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6242C2FE48 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 68BB37C1B; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:24:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9B22A.25638166@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 6:22: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:24:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107002441.68BB37C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those > > are nicknames, not pseudonyms. > > I don't consider names imposed by others as at all the same thing. Well, Boo Krat was imposed by Elwood, but he was a Bookrat before he came to us. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:35:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70ZLwA017973 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:35:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436183@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:35:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288653 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:35:08 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70Z8k13742 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:35:08 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5600H69KAKC1@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:35:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:36:22 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9B586.6000403@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021107002314.86F207C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Rita Chapman said: > >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >> >> >>>>I have no idea how I teach all day. I have no people >>>>skills. Maybe I have two personalities or something. >>>> >>>> >>>Why do you think you have no people skills? >>> >>> >> >> Because I'm a little oversensitive to whether somebody is >>annoyed with me, so I overcompensate or just don't feel >>right, etc. Whatever. Not very interesting. >> > > I think of people who have no people skills as being entirely > insensitive. It's all the same if it causes you to react inappropriately. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:37:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70bswA017991 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:37:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004361A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:37:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:37:42 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70bgk14007 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:37:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107003922.PGIK10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:39:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B5D0.9C996F55@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:37:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106170810.00a0b010@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > When Janet first came on, she used Lady Green. But someone made her > stop. Maybe it was Marty, who used Nipper. Lady Green was also Verdant quite early. She didn't switch fully to Janet for a long time. I remember telling her that I wouldn't be able to think of her as Janet since she was engrained in my mind as Verdant -- and I remember that she said that was ok. Re Nipper, he didn't start that. I think it was Alan who wrote something about Marty (and others, iirc) being like nipping dogs. I can't remember whether it was Alan who started calling him Nipper after that. Somehow I have it vaguely stuck in my head that it might have been I who dubbed him Nipper, but it was as a result of Alan's (I think it was Alan's) posting re the nipping. Re Bonniemae, I do take credit for that one. I'm almost positive twas I who started using it, from your earlier e-mail userid. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:38:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70cYwA017998 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:38:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004361B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:38:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:38:22 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70cMk14048 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:38:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5600HS7KFXBZ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:38:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:39:35 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9B647.70607@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106162906.03137c20@mail.istori.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay forwards, > >> From http://www.gist.com: "Material Mom Madonna was disgusted by a >> recent "Good Morning America" story that featured footage of a mother >> breast-feeding her 8-year-old son, > > > I'm all for not weaning kids too early, but 8 years seems a bit long. Eight is really at the very upper, upper limits of even the radical fringe of the breastfeeding movement. I could see it in the case of perhaps some developmental or eating/digestion problem, though. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:39:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70dfwA018021 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:39:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004361C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:39:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:39:29 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70dTk14135 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:39:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107004108.PHMB10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:41:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B63A.749D78AE@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:39:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Shoshana was always Shoshana. I think not. I remember that she told us one day that she had decided to become Shoshana. Maybe she said that it had always been her real name and that whatever she had been using wasn't. Or maybe it was something like a first name vs a middle name. I wish I remembered now what she had been earlier. The reason I remember it was that I remember thinking, "How odd to suddenly become Shoshana." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:40:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70e9wA018027 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:40:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DEDC0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:39:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288399 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:39:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hfldmCMBeDN/qhwi9qrjsg1+RK8hdsTq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70Tvk13054 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:29:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EB32FDC3 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BCB7F7C14; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:29:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9B350.AC772AE3@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 6:26:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:29:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107002955.BCB7F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > alyce cresap said: > > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those > > > > are nicknames, not pseudonyms. > > > > > > Yes, and we know their real names. > > > > But only because they chose to tell us--Ken's email is > > bookrat@bookrat.com, which is pretty opaque. > > ?? Of course they told us their real names since they weren't the ones > who assumed the other names, except maybe well after having been given > them by us. Or at least that's true with Boo and Giggles. I'm trying > to remember now when Chris turned into Lobstrosity -- as in whose > creation that was. In any case, it was after we already knew him as > Chris. It's not as if any of the above landed on the list with those > names in place. I thought Bookrat did, and I couldn't remember about Giggles. I know that Lobstrosity was Words-l derived, but he took it for his own. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:40:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70eJwA018030 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:40:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004361CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:40:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:40:07 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70e7k14212 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:40:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107004146.PHVD10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:41:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B660.358B6F99@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:40:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Probability References: <3DC84B20.1B5CA907@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105184225.00b31870@mail.panax.com> <20021105235721.GA24239@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021105192202.00b70c28@mail.panax.com> <20021106030355.GB6353@pobox.com> <3DC88841.24BD67E4@maynor.net> <20021106033935.GE6353@pobox.com> <3DC900E8.9CFF7621@maynor.net> <20021106145542.GA29303@pobox.com> <3DC994E2.FA63BB76@maynor.net> <20021106221950.GA4629@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > No. > > WRONG > > The answer is "depends". Right? Depends. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:42:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70gswA018050 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:42:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004361F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:42:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:42:42 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70ggk14459 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:42:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107004421.PJRH10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:44:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B6FB.12CF047@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:42:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> <3DC9940D.4DAE4EC3@maynor.net> <20021106222118.GB4629@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Did you wear shoes in NYC? > > Who is this addressed to? What do you think the probability is that it was directed to you? > I constantly wear shoes now. Partly > due to getting into too many complications with uncomprehending > people who simply won't let go. You surely understand why I would start thinking about your bare toes when you said something about your tired feet in the NYC3 description. Your feet sprang up into my memory in ten-toed glory. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:44:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70iBwA018064 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:44:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436209@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:43:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:43:59 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70hxk14563 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:43:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107004538.PKJR10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:45:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B748.FA03A726@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:43:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust References: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net> <001201c285e9$b7526620$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I am still recuping from my fall a month ago. > Still have headaches. My eye doctor told > me today I must go have a CAT scan. Do it. Unless you had headaches earlier, I'd say that they are worth exploring. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:45:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70jYwA018095 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:45:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043621E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:45:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288966 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:45:22 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70jMk14737 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:45:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107004701.PLEQ10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B79B.5247970E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:45:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust References: <20021106170905.CB03B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106181544.00b95d60@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >Why are your legs different lengths? You should pray about it. I think > >I've mentioned before the MSU student who became Miss America some > >number of years ago and told about how one of her legs had been shorter > >than the other but that she had prayed about it and that God made them > >the same length. I can't remember whether God made the short one grow > >longer or the long one grow shorter. Anyway, she claimed that they > >matched after God's help. > > Actually, what happened was that one side of her brain atrophied so that > she thinks her legs are the same length. Iirc, the Miss America people commented that her legs seemed the same length. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:46:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70kJwA018102 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:46:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436225@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:46:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:46:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PvrkoBQgRYRPUaYl5CUb9L3H9jaYQuYR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70a7k13854 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:36:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CA82FDE5 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1A4AE7C14; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:36:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106162906.03137c20@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 6, 2002 4:33:46 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:36:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107003605.1A4AE7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Karen Kay forwards, > > From http://www.gist.com: "Material Mom Madonna was disgusted by a > >recent "Good Morning America" story that featured footage of a mother > >breast-feeding her 8-year-old son, > > I'm all for not weaning kids too early, but 8 years seems a bit long. Well, yes. But I find it funny that someone as flagrant as Madonna in so many ways would be so judgmental. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:46:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70kRwA018107 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DEE0E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:46:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:46:15 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70kFk14799 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:46:15 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA07072 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:46:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9729D38699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:46:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:46:14 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New York Day 3 Message-ID: <20021107004614.GA18916@pobox.com> References: <20021104012440.GA27509@pobox.com> <20021104194950.GB7904@pobox.com> <20021106040844.GF6353@pobox.com> <3DC9940D.4DAE4EC3@maynor.net> <20021106222118.GB4629@pobox.com> <3DC9B6FB.12CF047@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC9B6FB.12CF047@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 06:42:35PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Did you wear shoes in NYC? > > > > Who is this addressed to? > > What do you think the probability is that it was directed to you? Gee, I am SO sorry. I should have said "whom". > > I constantly wear shoes now. Partly > > due to getting into too many complications with uncomprehending > > people who simply won't let go. > > You surely understand why I would start thinking about your bare toes > when you said something about your tired feet in the NYC3 description. > Your feet sprang up into my memory in ten-toed glory. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:47:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70lGwA018111 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:47:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436230@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:47:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:47:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4DJuQW6fTkbxrVWpaMUBib1KR0p+MHl5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70b3k13956 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:37:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96EC2FDFA for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 860577C14; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:37:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? In-Reply-To: <3DC9B586.6000403@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 6, 2002 6:36:22 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:37:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107003702.860577C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Rita Chapman said: > > > >>Karen Kay wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>>I have no idea how I teach all day. I have no people > >>>>skills. Maybe I have two personalities or something. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Why do you think you have no people skills? > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Because I'm a little oversensitive to whether somebody is > >>annoyed with me, so I overcompensate or just don't feel > >>right, etc. Whatever. Not very interesting. > >> > > > > I think of people who have no people skills as being entirely > > insensitive. > > > It's all the same if it causes you to react inappropriately. Maybe. Who decides what's appropriate? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:49:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70nCwA018120 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:49:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DEE2A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:49:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:49:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70mxk15031 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:48:59 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70mvt24966 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:48:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106194726.00b9cde0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:48:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <20021107001439.812C87C12@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:14 PM 11/6/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Says Madonna! >" She said: "People have no morals, I swear to God. The things that people >do for ratings!" Well, if anyone could speak with substantial expertise on that issue, it would be Madonna. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:51:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70pVwA018137 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:51:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436263@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3288801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:B8oTFzssm3QJ4mmpdQ0aag/V3hr39fER@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70fFk14307 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:41:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BBFA2FE26 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6671B7C10; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:41:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9B63A.749D78AE@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 6:39:22 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:41:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107004114.6671B7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Shoshana was always Shoshana. > > I think not. I remember that she told us one day that she had decided > to become Shoshana. Maybe she said that it had always been her real > name and that whatever she had been using wasn't. Or maybe it was > something like a first name vs a middle name. I wish I remembered now > what she had been earlier. The reason I remember it was that I remember > thinking, "How odd to suddenly become Shoshana." She had been Shoshana for years before Words-L, though. It was the name she went by in her real life. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:51:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70pVwB018137 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:51:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436264@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:19 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70pJk15281 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:19 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ACX42255; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EAT84464; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:48:36 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DC92BC4.13790.12D3B2E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC9B647.70607@swbell.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6 Nov 2002 at 18:39, Rita Chapman wrote: > Eight is really at the very upper, upper limits of even the > radical fringe of the breastfeeding movement. I could see > it in the case of perhaps some developmental or > eating/digestion problem, though. Eight would be what? About a third-grader? "And what did you have for breakfast, Billy?" From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:51:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70pnwA018145 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:51:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DEE52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:30 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70pUk15297 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107005309.HXTX3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:53:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B90B.C681F421@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:51:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Legs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just googled for '"miss america" cheryl mississippi legs' and found this: A Bright Shining Place Cheryl Salem This is the story of a miracle. When Cheryl was a little girl growing up in Mississippi, a family friend told her that one day she would be everyone's Miss America. But when she was eleven years old, an automobile accident left her scarred and crippled. One of her legs was two inches shorter than the other. Doctors and her family feared at first that nothing short of a miracle would enable Cheryl to walk again. A Bright-Shining Place is the dramatic story of how Cheryl's devout Christian faith and persistence brought this miracle into her life. It began in a prayer session in 1974 in which her leg grew two inches to normal length and led to her coronation five years later as Miss America. ISBN: 0-89274-460-X *********** from: http://www.gospelstorehouse.net/acatalog/Gospel_Storehouse__Miracles_288.html So you see -- twas God. Hmm. Did it grow two inches in that one prayer session? That must have been dizzying. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:55:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70swwA018169 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:55:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043628E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:54:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:54:46 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70skk15622 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:54:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.141]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107005626.IBEM3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:56:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9B9D0.8ABD7067@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:54:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: It did grow instantly! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ********************* At age 11, she was in a near-fatal accident which crushed her left leg. When she was 17, Miss Prewitt claims that a miracle of faith on October 21, 1974, caused the bone in her leg to "grow two inches, instantaneously." ********************* from: http://www.pressplus.com/missam/pastwinners/pw_1980.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 18:59:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA70xnwA018205 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:59:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004362C8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:iVbC0jYiu32jhLpo5eHqn+USArJBNi59@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70nbk15105 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:49:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84A82FE1C for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4917A7C18; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:49:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106194726.00b9cde0@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 6, 2002 7:48:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:49:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107004936.4917A7C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 04:14 PM 11/6/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > >Says Madonna! > >" She said: "People have no morals, I swear to God. The things that people > >do for ratings!" > > Well, if anyone could speak with substantial expertise on that issue, it > would be Madonna. Indeed. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:02:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7128wA018244 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:02:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DEEE0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:01:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:01:56 -0500 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA711uk16286 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:01:56 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-019neomahp0285.dialsprint.net ([63.191.97.31]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 189b3S-000578-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:01:55 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:01:34 -0700 Subject: Re: The story continues... From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <004401c285b0$c15b0020$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/6/2002 9:22 AM, Doris Markland at dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM wrote: > I worry that I won't be able to take care of Spike. And that is my >> sad story. >> >> alyce > > May today be the day you turn a corner > and suddenly start feeling better. Couldn't have said it any better. Hang in there, Allie! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:04:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA714OwA018263 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:04:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436305@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:04:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3289333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:04:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4NbzsNJ0o9c9L4UjAAjH6oO1UEEDqpbF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA70sCk15586 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:54:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32292FE2F for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C89127C12; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:54:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Legs In-Reply-To: <3DC9B90B.C681F421@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 6:51:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:54:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107005411.C89127C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I just googled for '"miss america" cheryl mississippi legs' and found > this: > > A Bright Shining Place > Cheryl Salem > > This is the story of a miracle. > When Cheryl was a little girl growing up in Mississippi, a family > friend told her that one day she would be everyone's Miss America. > But when she was eleven years old, an automobile accident left her > scarred and crippled. One of her legs was two inches shorter than > the other. Doctors and her family feared at first that nothing short of > a miracle would enable Cheryl to walk again. But it wasn't the short leg that made her not able to walk. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:21:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71LFwA018369 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:21:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436406@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:21:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3290835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:21:03 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail305.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71L3k18208 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:21:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.144]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107012243.IANT7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:22:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9BFF6.D7056134@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:20:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Legs and Statistics (was Re: Tool Lust) References: <20021106170905.CB03B7C0F@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106181544.00b95d60@mail.panax.com> <000601c285ed$05cc1780$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I remember this girl. Was it Cheryl something? Prewitt. You have a good memory. It was relatively easy for me to remember her since I knew her when she was the accompanist for the Starkville Symphony Chorus. We were a relatively small and jolly group, and I usually sat very close to where she was playing the piano, though I didn't think to look at her legs because I didn't know the leg story at that time. > I remember her singing that song (which I can't > think of right now), but it was very dramatic > and she sang with that star-struck raptured > look that born-agains get when they perform. > Perhaps her leg was shortening at that very > moment. No, we now know that it was the other leg that grew and that it wasn't at that moment. I think the song was mentioned in that second url I posted. Lemme go look again. ... Yes: > Cheryl Prewitt, a brown-haired, blue-eyed, 22-year-old > graduate of Mississippi State University, thrilled a > sell-out crowd of 22,122 spectators, first accompanying > herself on the piano and then singing "Don't Cry Out > Loud." > > Clad in a shimmering gown of sequined flowers on black > flowered tapestry, Miss Prewitt, the third representative > from Mississippi to win the crown during the pageant's 59-year history, edged closer to the > judges with every note of the inspiring song. And then this as a sort of WLM: > Ironically, a statistics professor from Northern Illinois University presented an analysis > before this year's pageant which mathematically predicted that Miss Prewitt had the best >chance of winning. That seems at odds with our recent discussions, though. I need to mull that over. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:33:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71X5wA018455 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004364C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:52 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71Wqk19415 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:52 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.77]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H56MUY02.SRJ for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:30:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3DC9C281.3389B9A4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:31:46 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Internet Librarian References: <3DC9B29D.38B4C5E6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ann Borkin wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure Dan didn't know who I was (though I did mention Words-L) Was he wearing his beanie? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:33:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71XAwA018459 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004364C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291493 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:58 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71Wwk19427 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:58 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021107013252.IXDT12281.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:32:52 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106165436.03139760@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:55:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <20021107003605.1A4AE7C14@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106162906.03137c20@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Well, yes. But I find it funny that someone as flagrant as Madonna in >so many ways would be so judgmental. Judgmental, or publicity-conscious? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:33:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71XGwA018462 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:33:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004364C7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:33:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:33:04 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71X4k19446 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:33:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107013443.IKYG5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:34:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C2C6.B9DE469B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:32:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> <3DC99C8D.EFB6099D@maynor.net> <3DC9A8EE.689C4BC4@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I wish. He did not call. He *always* calls. I can only think that the > receptionist did not give him the message. I'll call in the morning. The > thing is that he is in G'town only on Tuesday and Thursday. If he wants > to see me, it has to be tomorrow, or else I have to wait five days until > next Tuesday. This really is unlike him. He has called in the past as > late as 6:00, but I doubt he is still working at this hour. I've been > just lying in bed with CNN on. Sometimes dozing, sometimes not. Had some > split pea soup and crackers. Just got up to let Spike out. Breathing is > not bad at the moment. It comes and goes in spurts of goodness and > badness. This is upsetting. I'm glad about the good spurts but am worried overall. What time does he arrive in Germantown? I trust that you will call at the earliest possible time. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:39:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71dTwA018529 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:39:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043651D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:39:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:39:16 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71dGk19961 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:39:16 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021107013910.IONH13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:39:10 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106173301.033601f0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 17:38:47 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <3DC9B647.70607@swbell.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106162906.03137c20@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman writes, >I could see it in the case of perhaps some developmental or >eating/digestion problem, though. Arguably developmental problem due to state intervention. A babysitter reported the mom for breastfeeding at age 5 because she thought the kid said that mommy wouldn't let him stop. As a result, the kid was placed in foster care for six months. Subsequently, he has been back with his mom for a year and a half. http://tinyurl.com/2hv3 (GMA on abcnews) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:40:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71evwA018542 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:40:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436530@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:40:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291815 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:40:45 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71ejk20090 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:40:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107014224.ITSN5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C496.C070761@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:40:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> <3DC9053C.6040705@swbell.net> <3DC908E0.4103CF4A@maynor.net> <3DC9B010.5010007@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > Cynical because I think the voter isn't looking at candidates > as individuals. For example, I don't like our county > executive one bit. He happens to be a democrat, so in that > race I voted for the republican candidate, who sounded good > enough to me to give him a shot. Of course, the county > executive doesn't do anything with social services, and a > fiscal conservative is good in that position, so it would be > cynical of me to have voted for the guy I don't like -- who > keeps a nickname like "Buzz" into adulthood anyway -- simply > for party platform reasons. Regardless, "Buzz" won. I've said many times that I've never been a yellow-dog Democrat. But I can't see that my often voting for all Democrats in a particular election is . > An interesting phenomenon of punching the straight ticket > hole is how the judge voting turns out here. We voted Hmm. I think you're talking about something I don't know anything about. What's a "straight ticket hole"? > The vast majority of voters have no opinion > on circuit judges since the vast majority have nothing to do > with them. So I think it is cynical to vote to boot > somebody out of a judgeship simply because they're of the > opposite party. Our judgeship races don't list parties at all, nor can judgeship campaigning mention political parties. There's been debate on whether that's good or bad. I thought I had done my homework pretty well before voting yesterday, but I realized when I got there that I had screwed up and overlooked one of the judgeship races. I knew zilch about it. So I simply left that one blank. I don't know about everywhere, but here you aren't required to mark a box for every race. Leaving one blank doesn't invalidate the whole ballot. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:43:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71hbwA018565 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:43:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436556@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:43:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291928 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:43:25 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71hPk20374 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:43:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107014504.IWPH5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:45:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C536.722D575B@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:43:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? References: <20021106040710.5838B7C0D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9B20C.5040302@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Why do you think you have no people skills? > > Because I'm a little oversensitive to whether somebody is > annoyed with me, so I overcompensate or just don't feel > right, etc. Whatever. Not very interesting. I don't see that as not having people skills. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:44:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71iTwA018569 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:44:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF1FC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:44:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:44:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:zjP3QIT/tURs7PW0mnWiuyOVbBYIjEml@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71Xrk19509 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:33:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15482FE4E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6FC147C0C; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:33:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106165436.03139760@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 6, 2002 4:55:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:33:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107013352.6FC147C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Karen Kay writes, > >Well, yes. But I find it funny that someone as flagrant as Madonna in > >so many ways would be so judgmental. > > Judgmental, or publicity-conscious? LOL. I can't be surprised that she's publicity-conscious. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:45:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71jCwA018593 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:45:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436561@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:44:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:45:00 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71j0k20446 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:45:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107014639.IYZR5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C595.AE470674@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:44:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? References: <20021107002314.86F207C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I think of people who have no people skills as being entirely > insensitive. I don't. Many people lack people skills for a variety of reasons, like shyness, lack of self-esteem, etc. etc. etc. Some of those people are highly sensitive. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:46:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71kTwA018604 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:46:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436570@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71kGk20513 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:16 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-61.panax.com [65.114.190.61]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71kEt04509 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204530.00a17360@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:45:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9B5D0.9C996F55@maynor.net> References: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106170810.00a0b010@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Re Bonniemae, I do take credit for that one. I'm almost positive twas I >who started using it, from your earlier e-mail userid. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I thought it was also Brad. He even called me Sister Josette from time to time. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:46:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71kdwA018607 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:46:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436571@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:26 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71kQk20534 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107014805.JAYA5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C5EB.71394C25@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:46:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021107002441.68BB37C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Well, Boo Krat was imposed by Elwood, but he was a Bookrat before he > came to us. Yes, he was Bookrat. But his real name wasn't a secret, iirc. As opposed to Elwood, whose real name was (and probably still is to many Wordslers). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:48:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71mBwA018618 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:48:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF20E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:47:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:47:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71lvk20632 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:47:57 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-61.panax.com [65.114.190.61]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71lnt04858 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:47:50 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204627.00a14110@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:47:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9B63A.749D78AE@maynor.net> References: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen Kay wrote: > > > Shoshana was always Shoshana. > >I think not. I remember that she told us one day that she had decided >to become Shoshana. Maybe she said that it had always been her real >name and that whatever she had been using wasn't. Or maybe it was >something like a first name vs a middle name. I wish I remembered now >what she had been earlier. The reason I remember it was that I remember >thinking, "How odd to suddenly become Shoshana." > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) She was always Shoshana. She was even Shoshana on the menopaus list which is how she got to words-l. Then one day on words-l she said that Shoshana wasn't her real name. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:49:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71n8wA018625 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:49:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436583@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:48:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:48:55 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71mtk20688 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:48:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107015034.JEDQ5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C680.2097B1BD@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:48:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021107002955.BCB7F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > Well, there's Boo, of course. And Lobstrosity. And Giggles. But those ^^^ > > It's not as if any of the above landed on the list with those > > names in place. > > I thought Bookrat did, and I couldn't remember about Giggles. I know > that Lobstrosity was Words-l derived, but he took it for his own. Bookrat became Boo after he was on the list and bookrat was reparsed as boo-krat. Giggles never called himself Giggles, iirc. That name was born out of his -ggs signature. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:50:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71oOwA018633 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:50:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436593@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:12 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71o9k20826 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107015149.JFVA5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:51:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C6CA.1621FCB7@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:50:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021107004114.6671B7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > She had been Shoshana for years before Words-L, though. It was the > name she went by in her real life. That may well be true. I didn't know her before she showed up on Words-L. But I do remember when she announced to us on Words-L that she was becoming Shoshana. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:51:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71p2wA018644 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:51:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF22F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71omk20921 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:49 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-61.panax.com [65.114.190.61]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71oet05484 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:40 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204955.00a129b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:50:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <3DC9B748.FA03A726@maynor.net> References: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net> <001201c285e9$b7526620$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Doris Markland wrote: > > I am still recuping from my fall a month ago. > > Still have headaches. My eye doctor told > > me today I must go have a CAT scan. > >Do it. Unless you had headaches earlier, I'd say that they are worth >exploring. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Indeed. And why is it your eye doctor who is telling you this? Are you having vision problems? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:52:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71qmwA018655 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:52:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF236@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:52:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:51:49 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71pnk21011 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:51:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.161]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107015328.JHUW5277.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:53:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C72E.D51C2B6C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:51:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Legs References: <20021107005411.C89127C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > I just googled for '"miss america" cheryl mississippi legs' and found > > this: > > > > A Bright Shining Place > > Cheryl Salem > > > > This is the story of a miracle. > > When Cheryl was a little girl growing up in Mississippi, a family > > friend told her that one day she would be everyone's Miss America. > > But when she was eleven years old, an automobile accident left her > > scarred and crippled. One of her legs was two inches shorter than > > the other. Doctors and her family feared at first that nothing short of > > a miracle would enable Cheryl to walk again. > > But it wasn't the short leg that made her not able to walk. ?? I've never heard of not being able to walk because of having one leg shorter than the other. I'd say you'd probably limp but not that you couldn't walk. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:57:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71vIwA018684 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:57:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004365F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:57:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3291991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:57:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mq3E0wUMKfSNqM2btsHvvCFjuDITT7YD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71l6k20608 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:47:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F772FE5E for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:47:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A0AE7C26; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:47:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106173301.033601f0@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 6, 2002 5:38:47 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:47:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107014705.8A0AE7C26@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Rita Chapman writes, > >I could see it in the case of perhaps some developmental or > >eating/digestion problem, though. > > Arguably developmental problem due to state intervention. > > A babysitter reported the mom for breastfeeding at age 5 because she > thought the kid said that mommy wouldn't let him stop. As a result, the > kid was placed in foster care for six months. Subsequently, he has been > back with his mom for a year and a half. > > http://tinyurl.com/2hv3 (GMA on abcnews) Is it true that some places kids nurse regularly till they are 5 or 6? I've heard that before, but have no data on it. The URL you cited says "The American Academy of Pediatrics says all but 18 percent of mothers in the U.S. have weaned their child by age 1." But there are commercials here encouraging women to keep nursing for health reasons. I can't remember for how long--I know it's at least a year. So that's actually pretty shocking to me. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:59:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71xUwA018702 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436629@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:59:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292366 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:59:17 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71xHk21638 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:59:17 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA71xGu20533 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c28601$88ee40c0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net> <001201c285e9$b7526620$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204955.00a129b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Tool Lust Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:01:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Doris Markland wrote: > > > I am still recuping from my fall a month ago. > > > Still have headaches. My eye doctor told > > > me today I must go have a CAT scan. > > > >Do it. Unless you had headaches earlier, I'd say that they are worth > >exploring. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Indeed. And why is it your eye doctor who is telling you this? Are you > having vision problems? > > > --bonniev Yes, but because I need catarract surgery. I went to him today to have him check my eye for any damage and to determine when we can do the cat. surgery. He agreed we should not do it now. I showed him a picture of myself taken after the fall, and he said I had a concussion, and he had some concern I should be checked further in case there is a bleed in the brain. He was surprised the ER had only stitched my head but not Xrayed. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 19:59:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA71xjwA018707 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043662D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:59:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:59:33 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71xXk21671 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:59:33 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA05350 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 75FA838699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:59:32 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: http://www.fifty.cc/womeninbuilding/ Message-ID: <20021107015932.GA23165@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find the graphic obscene. Now that I have admitted this I can go to sleep peacefully. Thanks From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7218wA018736 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:01:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:00:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292113 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:00:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ljaI84LpMXHS0nuVC/AdGyI2xoT2TsLo@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71otk20945 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:50:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CFB2FDC0 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CF7787C12; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9C680.2097B1BD@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 7:48:48 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:50:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107015054.CF7787C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Bookrat became Boo after he was on the list and bookrat was reparsed as > boo-krat. I know, it was an Elwoodism. > Giggles never called himself Giggles, iirc. That name was > born out of his -ggs signature. Hm. Karen too tired to check the archives From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:01:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA721fwA018745 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:01:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043664D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:01:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292491 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:01:28 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA721Sk21940 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:01:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.82]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107020306.KNIF3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:03:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9C967.34B91BC3@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:01:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> <3DC99C8D.EFB6099D@maynor.net> <3DC9A8EE.689C4BC4@valstar.net> <3DC9C2C6.B9DE469B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: Re your worry about taking care of Spike, I wish I were really retired and could come help you. But I can say that if you find yourself in a situation where you have to be in the hospital for an extended stay or totally in bed at home without being able to let him in and out or whatever, I will find a way to transport him here and take care of him for you and then bring him back to you. I promise you that. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:01:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA721gwA018748 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:01:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043664E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:01:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:01:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ISR3jlosQd6CaV7SrTlfHIPnN1Bw/gKD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71pTk20989 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:51:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE07A2FDDA for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A06687C11; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:51:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9C6CA.1621FCB7@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 7:50: 2 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:51:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107015128.A06687C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > She had been Shoshana for years before Words-L, though. It was the > > name she went by in her real life. > > That may well be true. I didn't know her before she showed up on > Words-L. But I do remember when she announced to us on Words-L that she > was becoming Shoshana. Er, no. It was in the past. She talked about how she had decided to become Shoshana. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:05:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7253wA018765 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:05:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436682@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:04:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:04:50 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:eNrBcZdU/Vaqfkg56bhU84c/cYXnptvw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71sok21202 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:54:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33AC2FD67 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CB38B7C42; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:54:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Legs In-Reply-To: <3DC9C72E.D51C2B6C@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 7:51:42 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:54:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107015449.CB38B7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Natalie Maynor said: > > > I just googled for '"miss america" cheryl mississippi legs' and found > > > this: > > > > > > A Bright Shining Place > > > Cheryl Salem > > > > > > This is the story of a miracle. > > > When Cheryl was a little girl growing up in Mississippi, a family > > > friend told her that one day she would be everyone's Miss America. > > > But when she was eleven years old, an automobile accident left her > > > scarred and crippled. One of her legs was two inches shorter than > > > the other. Doctors and her family feared at first that nothing short of > > > a miracle would enable Cheryl to walk again. > > > > But it wasn't the short leg that made her not able to walk. > > ?? I've never heard of not being able to walk because of having one leg > shorter than the other. I'd say you'd probably limp but not that you > couldn't walk. I don't limp, either, but all that aside, the quote you provided sounded to me like the problem was the short leg. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:05:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA725GwA018768 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:05:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436688@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:05:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:05:03 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA71t3k21245 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:55:03 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA71t1pY009007 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:55:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:55:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Bethany--the reason why In-Reply-To: <3DC99FF0.EAEAB749@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> This tactic of major property owners >> is the reason the Old City will never be a neighborhood - it had great >> promise, but this kind of stuff has killed it. > >Is nobody turning old buildings into condos there -- as in buyers rather >than renters? Seems to me that that's the way to make a neighborhood No - if you sell, then you cannot boot a tenant in order to raise the rent. I should add that Kyle does not use the boot a tenant tactic - but he makes a lot more money leasing than selling. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:06:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA726dwA018780 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:06:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004366A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:06:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:06:25 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA726Pk22481 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:06:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.82]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107020805.KRNT3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:08:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9CA9B.E8296DBF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:06:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <3DC98B85.509BD3CC@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106170810.00a0b010@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204530.00a17360@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Re Bonniemae, I do take credit for that one. I'm almost positive twas I > >who started using it, from your earlier e-mail userid. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > I thought it was also Brad. He even called me Sister Josette from time to > time. I dunno. Brad might well have been part of it. But I think I was first. I started to say while ago that I think I'm also the one who first called ggs Giggles -- when I said that his signature made me think of "giggles." But I decided that I was sounding too uppity or something in claiming all those things -- Bonniemae, Nipper, Giggles. I don't claim all, however. I did not initiate Mutant City. That was Tushykins. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:08:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA727xwA018792 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:08:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF2F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:07:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3292799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:07:47 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA727lk22627 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:07:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.82]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107020926.KSTJ3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:09:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:07:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204627.00a14110@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > She was always Shoshana. She was even Shoshana on the menopaus list which > is how she got to words-l. Then one day on words-l she said that Shoshana > wasn't her real name. I'm not claiming to know what she was in previous lives or other lives. But I do remember when she became Shoshana on Words-L. I have no doubt about that memory. I just wish I remembered what she had first come to us as. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:11:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72BdwA018813 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436704@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:11:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:11:26 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72BQk22941 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:11:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.82]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107021306.KVWV3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:13:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9CBC8.74B8DC60@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:11:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Legs References: <20021107015449.CB38B7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > ?? I've never heard of not being able to walk because of having one leg > > shorter than the other. I'd say you'd probably limp but not that you > > couldn't walk. > > I don't limp, either, but all that aside, the quote you provided > sounded to me like the problem was the short leg. As I understand it, her problem was that she was in a wreck that smashed her leg and that at first the doctors had said she'd never walk again. She did walk again but had legs of different lengths. It was the prayer that made them the same length again. I did not hear any of this from the horse's mouth, though. She was friendly and pleasant when I knew her but didn't get into the matter of leg lengths in my presence. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:22:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72LxwA018914 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:22:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF391@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:21:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:21:46 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72Lkk23751 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:21:46 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5600MUPP89Z8@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:21:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:22:18 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9CE5A.9060303@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021107014705.8A0AE7C26@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Is it true that some places kids nurse regularly till they are 5 or 6? > I've heard that before, but have no data on it. I think 4 or 5. I've seen four years cited a lot as the "natural" spacing between children without birth control. > The URL you cited says "The American Academy of Pediatrics says all > but 18 percent of mothers in the U.S. have weaned their child by age > 1." But there are commercials here encouraging women to keep nursing > for health reasons. I can't remember for how long--I know it's at > least a year. So that's actually pretty shocking to me. I think the vast majority of American women wean within the first couple of months, if they breastfeed at all. After that, 6 months (teeth) is the big quit time. American women are encouraged to nurse for the first year, and the World Health Organization recommends two years. I nursed Ana about for about two years. We were both pretty ready to quit at that point. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:26:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72QMwA018956 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:26:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004367DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:26:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:26:09 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72Q9k23989 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:26:09 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ACX47161; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EAT89490; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:26:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:23:46 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 6 Nov 2002 at 20:07, Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm not claiming to know what she was in previous lives or other lives. > But I do remember when she became Shoshana on Words-L. I have no doubt > about that memory. I just wish I remembered what she had first come to us > as. Maybe this is the other name you are thinking of: ------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bree (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) Subject: WHENCE COMMETH BREE.... Date: 1995/10/30 After several inquiries along the lines of Where did Bree come from... My husband and I have a rare book business, natural history, science, technology and a smattering of other weirdness. And we are both avid readers. And finally, although I hesitate to admit it, we are Tolkein lovers. Enough to admit to reading the trilogy at least once a year. After the brave band sets out from Hobbiton, their first stop is Bree. Tolkein explains how Bree was once the center of commerce in the region, and travelers and traders from all over Middle Earth would converge upon the taverns and inns of Bree, primarily of course Mr. Butterburr's, where they would exchange wondrous stories of their travels. Hobbits would occasionally visit and return to Hobbiton bearing all manner of strange tales and gossip of the outside world. As part of this explanation Tolkein dropped the marvelous phrase, "strange as news from Bree." Thus, we became Books From Bree. And yes, some of our books are actually quite strange. How about Scattering Theory, or Synoptic Meteorology. Shoshana ------------------------------------------------------------------ And this followup adds some other personal information, though there seem to have been some other antecedent messages on the topic. ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shoshana Edwards (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) Subject: Re: WHENCE COMMETH BREE.... Date: 1995/10/30 At 02:47 PM 10/30/95 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: >This is all very interesting, to be sure, but the question being > posed everywhere is this: what is the name you cast aside in > favor of the chosen Shoshana? Joanne Marie. And my original name, before being adopted, was Louise Antoinette. No identity crisis here. My family had several names in mind when I was adopted, but could not agree on any of them. Sandy had been the preferred choice, but when they picked me up they found a baby with coal black curly hair. Naturally by the time I was three I had nice Sandy brown hair. But after much wrangling, they decided to give in to my eldest soon-to-be brother, whose current girl friend (he was all of 11) was Joanne Marie. Adulthood arrived with the promise of shedding a lot of really painful things that childhood had abounded with (with which childhood, etc. etc.; sorry!), including the name which carried baggage. And I was resentful at having been named after a casual childhood crush. So, Shoshana. And my husband and I, then engaged, did not want to do the traditional thing of me taking his name. It seemed to us to imply an ownership thing about which we were very uncomfortable. Same with him taking on my name. But we wanted to share the same last name. So we took a new one! Seemed appropriate. We were creating something new by marrying, thus a new name. The anarchist in us loved it, and we made it part of our non-state, non-church marriage ceremony. Shoshana From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:27:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72RxwA018965 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:27:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF3B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:27:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:27:46 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72Rkk24098 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:27:46 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D03A.2BE63CF@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:30:18 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> <3DC99C8D.EFB6099D@maynor.net> <3DC9A8EE.689C4BC4@valstar.net> <3DC9C2C6.B9DE469B@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > This is upsetting. I'm glad about the good spurts but am worried > overall. What time does he arrive in Germantown? I trust that you will > call at the earliest possible time. 9 am. I'll call. alyce > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:29:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72T5wA018972 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:29:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436808@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293413 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:12 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72SCk24139 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:12 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021107022806.KCGR13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:28:06 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106181314.026c4020@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 18:27:37 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <20021107014705.8A0AE7C26@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106173301.033601f0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Is it true that some places kids nurse regularly till they are 5 or 6? >I've heard that before, but have no data on it. Dunno, but I wouldn't be surprised. Katherine Dettwyler says, "In societies where children are allowed to nurse 'as long as they want' they usually self-wean, with no arguments or emotional trauma, between 3 and 4 years of age." Comparing humans to other animals who presumably don't have cultural preconceptions, she says the biologically natural age of weaning should be somewhere between 2.5 and 7 years. [1] >But there are commercials here encouraging women to keep nursing >for health reasons. I can't remember for how long--I know it's at >least a year. So that's actually pretty shocking to me. That's why they have the commercials, to try to get more moms nursing for the first year. Our history, culture, and the fact that many moms work all conspire against. The AAP recommends breastfeeding exclusively for 6 months, and "that breastfeeding continue for at least 12 months, and thereafter for as long as mutually desired." [2] WHO says, "A recent review of evidence has shown that, on a population basis, exclusive breastfeeding for 6 months is the optimal way of feeding infants. Thereafter infants should receive complementary foods with continued breastfeeding up to 2 years of age or beyond." [3] Pete [1] http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/detwean.html [2] http://www.aap.org/policy/re9729.html [3] http://www.who.int/child-adolescent-health/NUTRITION/infant_exclusive.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:29:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72T5wA018973 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:29:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436809@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293421 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:52 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72SYk24151 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:34 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H56004TBPJLJA@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:28:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:29:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: need an exorcist To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9CFF2.3030401@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> <3DC9053C.6040705@swbell.net> <3DC908E0.4103CF4A@maynor.net> <3DC9B010.5010007@swbell.net> <3DC9C496.C070761@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> An interesting phenomenon of punching the straight ticket >>hole is how the judge voting turns out here. We voted >> > > Hmm. I think you're talking about something I don't know anything > about. What's a "straight ticket hole"? On the first page of the booklet, you can punch "straight ticket" for any of the parties, then you're done except for the ballot issues. > Our judgeship races don't list parties at all, nor can judgeship > campaigning mention political parties. There's been debate on whether > that's good or bad. I thought I had done my homework pretty well before > voting yesterday, but I realized when I got there that I had screwed up > and overlooked one of the judgeship races. I knew zilch about it. So I > simply left that one blank. I don't know about everywhere, but here you > aren't required to mark a box for every race. Leaving one blank doesn't > invalidate the whole ballot. I don't leave blanks -- I figure if they haven't made the news, they can stay. And I'm familiar with most of them, anyway. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:29:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72TDwA018979 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:29:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043680A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:29:00 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72Sxk24170 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-58.panax.com [63.163.41.58]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72Svt14090 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:28:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106212735.00a195d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:28:39 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> References: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204627.00a14110@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm not claiming to know what she was in previous lives or other lives. >But I do remember when she became Shoshana on Words-L. I have no doubt >about that memory. I just wish I remembered what she had first come to >us as. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Strange that your memory is different than mine and Karen's. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:30:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72U1wA019011 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:30:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF3C9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:29:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:29:49 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72Tmk24224 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:29:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:29:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D0AF.7971D963@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:32:15 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? References: <20021107002314.86F207C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9C595.AE470674@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I don't. Many people lack people skills for a variety of reasons, like > shyness, lack of self-esteem, etc. etc. etc. Some of those people are > highly sensitive. I don't even understand what people skills are. What were these attributes called before the psychologists thought up "people skills"? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:32:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72WuwA019031 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:32:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF3DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:32:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:32:43 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72Whk24446 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:32:43 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H56009VEPQI7X@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:32:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:33:14 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DC9D0EA.5050202@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106173301.033601f0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106181314.026c4020@mail.istori.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Karen Kay writes, > >> Is it true that some places kids nurse regularly till they are 5 or 6? >> I've heard that before, but have no data on it. > > > Dunno, but I wouldn't be surprised. Katherine Dettwyler says, "In > societies where children are allowed to nurse 'as long as they want' they > usually self-wean, with no arguments or emotional trauma, between 3 and 4 > years of age." > > Comparing humans to other animals who presumably don't have cultural > preconceptions, she says the biologically natural age of weaning should be > somewhere between 2.5 and 7 years. [1] Dettwyler is a fringe loonie if you read all of her research. In any case, many mammal mothers force weaning, so she has a major logic problem in equating natural nursing in the animal kingdom with natural weaning. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:37:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72bHwA019062 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:37:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043687C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:37:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293381 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:37:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Xo9LJTkYHEBsdWJt9xQXvnvdylGq3IkB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72R4k24073 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:27:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30482FE66 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 775887C11; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:27:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest In-Reply-To: <3DC9CE5A.9060303@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 6, 2002 8:22:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:27:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107022703.775887C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Is it true that some places kids nurse regularly till they are 5 or 6? > > I've heard that before, but have no data on it. > > > I think 4 or 5. I've seen four years cited a lot as the > "natural" spacing between children without birth control. Is that so intimately connected with breastfeeding? We're mostly 4 years apart, and my Mom never breastfed AFAIK. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:38:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72c4wA019068 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:38:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043688C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:37:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:37:52 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72bpk24913 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:37:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:37:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D293.A93F3AAB@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:40:19 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> <3DC99C8D.EFB6099D@maynor.net> <3DC9A8EE.689C4BC4@valstar.net> <3DC9C2C6.B9DE469B@maynor.net> <3DC9C967.34B91BC3@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > PS: Re your worry about taking care of Spike, I wish I were really > retired and could come help you. But I can say that if you find > yourself in a situation where you have to be in the hospital for an > extended stay or totally in bed at home without being able to let him in > and out or whatever, I will find a way to transport him here and take > care of him for you and then bring him back to you. I promise you that. > Thank you Natalie. The thing is that when I took Spike, I signed an agreement that he be returned to the Senior Dog Adoption lady if I (or my family) couldn't care for him. I have given her number to my cleaning woman (a dog lover whose niece also owns a grooming place), and I have it posted on a sign on the kitchen door (between kitchen and dining room) for anyone who might come here to see with other emergency information. So Spike will be taken care of, I'm sure. I am happy to say that as the evening wears on, I am feeling considerably better. Perhaps lying abed all day was what was needed. But I don't want to jinx things. I will still call the doctor if I am not absolutely chipper in the morning. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:41:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72fMwA019088 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:41:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004368B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:41:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293500 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:41:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7ZCHnoX+5HyY0TX63qLZYX5wRHG2JkPX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72V9k24358 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:31:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C88A2FE66 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D4F8A7C12; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:31:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021106212735.00a195d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 6, 2002 9:28:39 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:31:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107023108.D4F8A7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >I'm not claiming to know what she was in previous lives or other lives. > >But I do remember when she became Shoshana on Words-L. I have no doubt > >about that memory. I just wish I remembered what she had first come to > >us as. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Strange that your memory is different than mine and Karen's. Yet Another Sign. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:46:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72kNwA019139 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:46:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF522@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:46:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3293671 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:46:07 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72a7k24798; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:36:07 -0500 Received: from PUBEMX002.pub.datacenter.careered.com (puvemx.careered.com [199.253.140.9]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA72a6s26954; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:36:06 -0500 Received: from Wbsnt.wbs.com ([10.58.2.5]) by PUBEMX002.pub.datacenter.careered.com with Trend Micro InterScan Messaging Security Suite for SMTP v5.01; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 19:47:49 -0600 Received: from host1.imagelinkusa.net ([66.197.175.180]) by Wbsnt.wbs.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 43T1MHRL; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:48:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:36:06 -0500 Message-Id: <200211070236.gA72a6s26954@pasta.cc.uga.edu> From: USA Banking To: Subject: Tenga su Cuenta Bancaria en EE.UU. 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with ESMTP id gA72vOwA019220 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:57:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF5B5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:57:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295082 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:57:10 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72vAk26950 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:57:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.70]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107025850.FANV28064.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:58:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D680.F1883C24@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:57:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > Maybe this is the other name you are thinking of: > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Bree (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) > Subject: WHENCE COMMETH BREE.... > Date: 1995/10/30 YES!! She was Bree for a while before she told us she would thereafter be Shoshana! Thank you, mem. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > And this followup adds some other personal information, though > there seem to have been some other antecedent messages on the > topic. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Shoshana Edwards (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) > Subject: Re: WHENCE COMMETH BREE.... > Date: 1995/10/30 > > At 02:47 PM 10/30/95 -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > > >This is all very interesting, to be sure, but the question being > > posed everywhere is this: what is the name you cast aside in > > favor of the chosen Shoshana? > > Joanne Marie. And my original name, before being adopted, was > Louise Antoinette. No identity crisis here. I don't think she was ever Joanne or Louise on the list. But she was definitely not Shoshana at the very beginning (of her Words-L presence). She was Bree. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 20:59:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA72x4wA019228 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:59:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004369FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:58:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:58:51 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA72wpk27094 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:58:51 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.70]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107030030.FCAX28064.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D6E4.EE0FF095@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 20:58:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204627.00a14110@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106212735.00a195d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I'm not claiming to know what she was in previous lives or other lives. > >But I do remember when she became Shoshana on Words-L. I have no doubt > >about that memory. I just wish I remembered what she had first come to > >us as. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Strange that your memory is different than mine and Karen's. I don't know that it's so strange. But I'm very happy that mem found that original name since it was bugging me that I couldn't remember it. We first knew her on Words-L as Bree. She later announced that she was Shoshanna. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 21:02:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7329wA019281 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:02:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436A38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:01:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295316 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:01:56 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA731uk27423 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:01:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.70]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107030336.FENM28064.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:03:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D79D.D1A26A85@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:01:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021106040455.76E4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9014F.41C3F93C@maynor.net> <3DC9053C.6040705@swbell.net> <3DC908E0.4103CF4A@maynor.net> <3DC9B010.5010007@swbell.net> <3DC9C496.C070761@maynor.net> <3DC9CFF2.3030401@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > On the first page of the booklet, you can punch "straight > ticket" for any of the parties, then you're done except for > the ballot issues. Booklet? I'm learning lots of new stuff. I've never heard of a ballot booklet. > I don't leave blanks -- I figure if they haven't made the > news, they can stay. And I'm familiar with most of them, > anyway. I almost never leave blanks. But in the case of two or three competing names that I failed to do any research at all on and know nothing about, I think the fairest thing to do is leave it blank. That has happened to me only a couple of times in my whole voting career, though. It's not as if I'm usually that sloppy a . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 21:03:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA733lwA019292 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:03:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00436A57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:03:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295390 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:03:34 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail215.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.155]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA733Yk27573 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:03:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.70]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107030513.FFRH28064.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:05:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D7FF.D87469BF@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:03:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? References: <20021107002314.86F207C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9C595.AE470674@maynor.net> <3DC9D0AF.7971D963@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > I don't. Many people lack people skills for a variety of reasons, like > > shyness, lack of self-esteem, etc. etc. etc. Some of those people are > > highly sensitive. > > I don't even understand what people skills are. What were these > attributes called before the psychologists thought up "people skills"? I assume it means people who don't socialize well (in the largest sense of that word -- as in I'm not talking about whooping it up at parties). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 21:10:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA73AKwA019331 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:10:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00436AB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:10:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295616 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:10:07 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA73A6k28065 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:10:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.119]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107031146.JCKE3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:11:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DC9D985.8B4A9F38@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:09:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The story continues... References: <3DC86B09.9E57B122@valstar.net> <3DC86E6C.2954B6C9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC91FEE.E66F6A2A@valstar.net> <3DC9247B.724FB8BC@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DC93A7E.18BCDEB0@valstar.net> <3DC99C8D.EFB6099D@maynor.net> <3DC9A8EE.689C4BC4@valstar.net> <3DC9C2C6.B9DE469B@maynor.net> <3DC9C967.34B91BC3@maynor.net> <3DC9D293.A93F3AAB@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Thank you Natalie. The thing is that when I took Spike, I signed an > agreement that he be returned to the Senior Dog Adoption lady if I (or > my family) couldn't care for him. That's standard procedure for dog adoptions. It's on the forms to make sure that people adopting dogs realize the seriousness of the commitment and don't do something like abandon them. I knew it was on our local forms because I had seen the forms in working with the Humane Society, but I still remember balking at signing that statement when I adopted Spencer and saying to the person I gave the form to that I could not imagine taking Spencer to the shelter -- that I would find a good home for him myself. She agreed that that would be the thing to do, even though I still had to sign the statement. I decided that what I would do would be to find him a good home and then tell the shelter about it -- iow, circumvent that requirement without truly violating the agreement. > I have given her number to my cleaning > woman (a dog lover whose niece also owns a grooming place), and I have > it posted on a sign on the kitchen door (between kitchen and dining > room) for anyone who might come here to see with other emergency > information. So Spike will be taken care of, I'm sure. The cleaning woman sounds like an excellent resource person for that kind of emergency. > I am happy to say that as the evening wears on, I am feeling > considerably better. Perhaps lying abed all day was what was needed. But > I don't want to jinx things. I will still call the doctor if I am not > absolutely chipper in the morning. I think you should call the doctor even if you do feel absolutely chipper -- just to discuss the recent unpleasantness. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 21:22:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA73MvwA019453 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:22:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436B7E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:22:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:22:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:EwcZ5aGhLfN07dx7MMvBLMGmVV5VFWzv@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA73Cik28274 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:12:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9892FD81 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 73F9C7C18; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC9D6E4.EE0FF095@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 8:58:44 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107031243.73F9C7C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > bonniev wrote: > > > > >I'm not claiming to know what she was in previous lives or other lives. > > >But I do remember when she became Shoshana on Words-L. I have no doubt > > >about that memory. I just wish I remembered what she had first come to > > >us as. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > > Strange that your memory is different than mine and Karen's. > > I don't know that it's so strange. But I'm very happy that mem found > that original name since it was bugging me that I couldn't remember it. > We first knew her on Words-L as Bree. She later announced that she was > Shoshanna. Doesn't sound like it to me: From: Bree (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) Subject: Re: Words-l timeline View: Complete Thread (109 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: bit.listserv.words-l Date: 1995/10/29 On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Doris and Nancy was first), Elwood, Carol, Steve K. (not in order). > > Elwood's name on the list of people whose arrivals you remember brings > up the question of when an arrival is an arrival. I'm pretty sure that > Elwood was lurking here from way back almost at the beginning. Actually, he posted under his real name in 1992, with the motto "My life was dull 'til I returned to WORDS-L". > But are > lurkers really arrivers? Obviously we'll leave out lurkers who have > never unlurked, but what about lurkers who turn into participants? I'm > still fascinated by Carolyn Wombat's report that she lurked for a whole > year before saying anything. The reason I'm fascinated by that is that > once she delurked, she became so very active. > --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > I've been lurking, first on the list and then after my system crashed on the Usenet list, for about 6 months. Finally resubbed to the list and decided to come out. Sho... Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 21:23:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA73NlwA019467 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:23:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF75F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:23:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3295742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:23:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:en//7TaHT+e7We366xfUWklx7gNpqjfA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA73DXk28343 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:13:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91D92FD82 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 87F697C14; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:13:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DC9D79D.D1A26A85@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 9: 1:49 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:13:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107031332.87F697C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > On the first page of the booklet, you can punch "straight > > ticket" for any of the parties, then you're done except for > > the ballot issues. > > Booklet? I'm learning lots of new stuff. I've never heard of a ballot > booklet. I thought that was the normal voting method. It's how I voted in MO and CA. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 21:38:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA73cIwA019598 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:38:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040DF873@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:38:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3296157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:38:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LiVCQAWCJKTwJjEnEL5BRGLGxfmIJ0Gl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA73S5k29373 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:28:05 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799282FDD5 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C1017C18; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:28:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Elwood To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:28:04 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107032804.3C1017C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This was one post I found that cracked me up: "Not to be confused with the "original" Miranda Ruling (named after Carmen Miranda), which holds a person liable for any accident or injury which results from the wearing of noxious or distracting attire. This was the result of a case involving a four-vehicle/one horse accident in Fresno, California in 1940. The cause was determined to be a woman crossing an intersection, wearing a large fruit-covered hat, which distracted the motorists. The comparison in the press to Carmen Miranda was inevitable. The original meaning of "Merandizing" was, therefore, to adorn one's person with fruit. The more recent Miranda Ruling has overshadowed this incident, more's the pity." The earliest appearance of Elwood I could find is April 30, 1992. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 21:44:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA73iDwA019651 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:44:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00436CED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:43:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3296983 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:43:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JiNnTWcGlYkJE1jAONtWmlFnuC3SXjta@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA73hxk30761 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:43:59 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06C42FDEA for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9B32B849 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:43:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DC98085.E8A5261E@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Bill-Maher: I can only guess that the people are not paying attention X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:43:54 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Yabbut, you've been around for a while now. None of us has a pseudonym. >I can't imagine why you'd think it. But, never mind. > >alyce This is diegetically true. Ken Miller Elwood P. Dowd School of Autonomenclature From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 22:20:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA74KewA019909 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:20:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00437129@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:20:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3302906 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:20:26 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA74KQk03170 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:20:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.129.1a957edb (4312) for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:20:15 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <129.1a957edb.2afb43ff@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:20:15 EST Subject: tonight To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU While I was waiting for the bus I noticed an airplane circling over the area just north of the mall; this went on for twenty minutes at least; it was still circling when I got on the bus to go home. On the way home I noticed police lights in the parking lot of the shopping complex near my home (the one I walk by on my way to and from Reasor's); there were several police cars, and the officers had stopped several cars in the parking lot. I've been watching the news, and there's been no news about it. (The major topics were "why Steve Largent lost his momentous lead" and "Winona Ryder found guilty of grand theft and vandalism.") Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 22:34:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA74Y1wA025870 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:34:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E021E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:33:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3303464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:33:47 -0500 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA74Xlk04637 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:33:47 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.104.1ef77ad9 (4312) for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:33:38 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <104.1ef77ad9.2afb4721@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:33:37 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] need an exorcist To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/06/2002 9:02:22 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Booklet? I'm learning lots of new stuff. I've never heard of a ballot booklet. >> We had that in Akron: you would slip the punch card underneath the closed booklet and make sure that the pins and top holes in the card were straight. Then you opened the first page and punched the appropriate holes. This is the same method that the people in Florida used in the Presidential election of 2000. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 22:37:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA74buwA025893 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:37:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E0243@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3303607 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:42 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA74bgk04999 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:42 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.82.237fea3f (4312) for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:28 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <82.237fea3f.2afb4808@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:28 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Tool Lust To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/06/2002 3:16:16 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Were they for or against? >> The women were for it as long as the spell was on the jacket that the boy wore. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:20:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75K8wA028443 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:20:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00437503@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:19:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3306014 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:19:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:f2Vva7VN0ixJR26bvREmcofua0BCx1t4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA752bk07604 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:02:37 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51D52FE62 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DB52B849 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:02:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Bill-Maher: I can only guess that the people are not paying attention X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:02:33 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >>But that is new. We all have used our own names all along. Unless, >>perhaps, Bethany is not Bethany? > >Janet used to be Verdant. I'm not sure Shoshana was always Shoshana. Maureen was Annie O'Reilly for the longest time. (And at the time, I had no idea that she was one of *those* O'Reillys.) >My name >isn't really Marie. > >Marie Not only that, but Natalie isn't really Natalie! Honestly! Ken Miller Grace Maynor School of Renomenclature From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:20:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75KQwA029446 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:20:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E05C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:20:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3306484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:19:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8vWwKrixCozdu5/axzmmvf65NoSGwKDi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA757Mk08179 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:07:22 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E89B2FDCF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28FB2B849 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:07:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021107002441.68BB37C1B@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DC9B22A.25638166@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 6, 2002 6:22: 2 pm" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Bill-Maher: I can only guess that the people are not paying attention X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:07:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, Boo Krat was imposed by Elwood, but he was a Bookrat before he >came to us. > >Karen Actually, I was still kcmiller@netcom.com when I joined. (Haven't used that one in a while! Whatever happened to Netcom, anyway? ;-) ) But I morphed to Bookrat within two or three months of my appearance on this service, so a certain amount of memory conflation is inevitable. Ken Miller Department of Auld Lang Syne From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:22:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75M2wA003134 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:22:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004375AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:21:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3307022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:19:17 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA75Eak08749 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:14:36 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA75EZu10937 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:14:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00b501c2861c$d080bf60$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Winona Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:16:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Leno cracked some joke tonight about how this verdict will show those Hollywood show biz people they can't get by with shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, maybe, but shoplifting, no. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:23:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75NnwA004582 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:23:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004375CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:23:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3307562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:23:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:h7xBxXPjzh2LZ3OwBEFVYwN4S4utvBzr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA75NXk09743 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:23:33 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC912FDEF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA242B849 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:23:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> References: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204627.00a14110@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Bill-Maher: I can only guess that the people are not paying attention X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:23:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> She was always Shoshana. She was even Shoshana on the menopaus list which >> is how she got to words-l. Then one day on words-l she said that Shoshana >> wasn't her real name. > >I'm not claiming to know what she was in previous lives or other lives. >But I do remember when she became Shoshana on Words-L. I have no doubt >about that memory. I just wish I remembered what she had first come to >us as. > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Have you ever read any books by Elizabeth Loftus? Ken Miller Testimonial Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:32:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75W3wA006752 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:32:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E07CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:31:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3307506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:31:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bZ3DCDrHtkuUsBlAmxlFFB2ieeEBK/+f@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA75Lfk09569 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:21:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EC52FDC1 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8CAA17C12; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:21:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: from Bookrat at "Nov 6, 2002 9: 7:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:21:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107052140.8CAA17C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat said: > >Well, Boo Krat was imposed by Elwood, but he was a Bookrat before he > >came to us. > > > >Karen > > Actually, I was still kcmiller@netcom.com when I joined. (Haven't used > that one in a while! Whatever happened to Netcom, anyway? ;-) ) Ha! I thought I remembered a nother Netcom address. I remember Pete from Netcom--I was so surprised when he showed up here. > But I morphed to Bookrat within two or three months of my appearance on > this service, so a certain amount of memory conflation is inevitable. Whew.:) Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:32:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75WHwA006773 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:32:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E07CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:32:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3307517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:32:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:grR5ecccBbK2ptXFp3WL6a2CaLvIqrCH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA75M2k09654 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:22:02 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE452FDEF for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:22:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 65EDC7C15; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:22:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <00b501c2861c$d080bf60$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 6, 2002 11:16:22 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:22:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107052201.65EDC7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Leno cracked some joke tonight about > how this verdict will show those Hollywood > show biz people they can't get by with > shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, > maybe, but shoplifting, no. Did this make you laugh? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:37:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75bWwA010849 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00437687@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:37:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3308066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:37:18 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA75bIk11011 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:37:18 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id XAA23471 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B678138699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:37:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? Message-ID: <20021107053717.GA8478@pobox.com> References: <20021107002314.86F207C14@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC9C595.AE470674@maynor.net> <3DC9D0AF.7971D963@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DC9D0AF.7971D963@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:32:15PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I don't. Many people lack people skills for a variety of reasons, like > > shyness, lack of self-esteem, etc. etc. etc. Some of those people are > > highly sensitive. > > I don't even understand what people skills are. What were these > attributes called before the psychologists thought up "people skills"? I think the *absence* of people skills has good adjectives working for it--eccentric, creepy, saturnine, unsavory, coarse, vile, reserved, hermetic, diffident, odious etc. Presence of people skills may have a few: agreeable, amiable, sincere etc. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:39:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75dCwA010863 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:39:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00437699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:38:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3308128 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:38:58 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA75cwk11130 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:38:58 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id XAA24124 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:38:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B362738699; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:38:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:38:57 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021107053857.GB8478@pobox.com> References: <00b501c2861c$d080bf60$9d0332d1@0018079268> <20021107052201.65EDC7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021107052201.65EDC7C15@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:22:01PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Doris Markland said: > > Leno cracked some joke tonight about > > how this verdict will show those Hollywood > > show biz people they can't get by with > > shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, > > maybe, but shoplifting, no. > > Did this make you laugh? Of course not. Who the hell would post a joke if it made them laugh? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 6 23:49:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA75nswA010949 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:49:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00437722@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 0:49:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3308154 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:49:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:AunsuyinxbNaLQaUKE2rvRLJZv9FAVpS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA75ddk11183 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:39:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B742FDC8 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BC6577C15; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:39:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021107053857.GB8478@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 6, 2002 11:38:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:39:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107053938.BC6577C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:22:01PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Doris Markland said: > > > Leno cracked some joke tonight about > > > how this verdict will show those Hollywood > > > show biz people they can't get by with > > > shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, > > > maybe, but shoplifting, no. > > > > Did this make you laugh? > > Of course not. Who the hell would post a joke if it made them laugh? I am questioning its jokeness. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 00:23:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA76NAwA011526 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:23:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004378D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 1:22:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3309639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:22:55 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA76Mtk14621 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:22:55 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id AAA16457 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:22:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9C46C38699; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:22:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:22:54 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021107062254.GE8478@pobox.com> References: <20021107053857.GB8478@pobox.com> <20021107053938.BC6577C15@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021107053938.BC6577C15@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:39:38PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:22:01PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Doris Markland said: > > > > Leno cracked some joke tonight about > > > > how this verdict will show those Hollywood > > > > show biz people they can't get by with > > > > shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, > > > > maybe, but shoplifting, no. > > > > > > Did this make you laugh? > > > > Of course not. Who the hell would post a joke if it made them laugh? > > I am questioning its jokeness. Aren't you special ... even my laptop can "grep Leno". K*R*N, perhaps I should proceed with the beatings until lightening up occurs. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 00:43:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA76huwA011681 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:43:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004379AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 1:43:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3310015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:43:41 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA76hfk15859 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:43:41 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA76hdu05607 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:43:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00d301c28629$43fc8940$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021107052201.65EDC7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Winona Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:45:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland said: > [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > Leno cracked some joke tonight about > > how this verdict will show those Hollywood > > show biz people they can't get by with > > shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, > > maybe, but shoplifting, no. > > Did this make you laugh? > > Karen Not at all. But I did think it rather strange that a shoplifting charge (and whatever else it was called) should draw so much press and attention. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 01:13:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA77DBwA011837 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:13:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00437B9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 2:12:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3311648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:12:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vlhpJ3bQDEUyCGV8oRDPRaQ5E6rrF6d4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA772uk18458 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:02:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6352FE04 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:02:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C4267C11; Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:02:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <00d301c28629$43fc8940$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 7, 2002 0:45:30 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:02:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107070255.8C4267C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > Not at all. Okay. > But I did think it rather > strange that a shoplifting charge (and > whatever else it was called) should > draw so much press and attention. Yeah. Charges are usually dropped. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 02:24:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA78OBwA012269 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:24:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00437E5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 3:23:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3313956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 03:23:56 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA78Ntk24845 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 03:23:55 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA78P3F23354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:25:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:25:03 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust Message-ID: <20021107092503.A23320@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net>; from natalie@MAYNOR.NET on Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 04:53:14PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 04:53:14PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: = Karen Kay wrote: = = > actually seen offered around here but can't afford, is instruction in = > falling. = = Why don't you teach yourself via trial-and-error. See what works before = you get too old to bounce. = Why don't you try that yourself, miss brittlebones. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 02:43:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA78hCwA012452 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:43:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00437EBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 3:42:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3314178 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 03:42:57 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA78guk26827 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 03:42:56 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HQ55>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:42:55 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HQ5Y; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:42:44 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021107094221.031ffe58@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:42:35 +0100 Subject: Re: Googlism for: Maynor In-Reply-To: <3DC81E05.940B7430@akad.ee> References: <20021104210858.GB16849@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 21:37 05.11.2002 +0200 skrev Kristin Sarv: >Hi, > >I cannot understand, yet, where these googlisms are taken from, but here >are some of mine: > >"sarv is trusted by 15 members" - meebers, I hope ore is often accomplished together than alone ore is porous Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 02:52:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA78qEwA012547 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 02:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E0F5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 3:51:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3314379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 03:51:58 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA78pwk27693 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 03:51:58 -0500 Received: (qmail 24866 invoked by uid 417); 7 Nov 2002 08:51:43 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 08:51:43 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.165]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 01:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: <02ea01c2863b$a189cbb0$a5cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Happy Diwali! Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:56:20 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU RM> Thank you for the jolt of nostalgia. The rhythms of the > Indian calendar are no longer instinctive and I never > know when things like Diwali are. How long have you been away? Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 04:32:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7AWswA013062 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 04:32:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E116A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 5:32:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:32:37 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA7AWbk02953 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:32:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 10948 invoked by uid 417); 7 Nov 2002 10:26:09 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 10:26:09 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.165]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 03:26:03 -0700 Message-ID: <001f01c28648$d308c5d0$a5cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "Word - L" Subject: Archives? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:01:02 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How do I browse the list's archives? Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 04:38:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7Ac2wA013087 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 04:38:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E1176@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 5:37:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:37:46 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Abkk03194 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:37:46 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HRLS>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:37:46 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HRLR; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:37:35 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021107113310.031a17e0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:37:25 +0100 Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens In-Reply-To: <3DC85F69.2040800@swbell.net> References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:16 05.11.2002 -0600 skrev Rita Chapman: > I'm currently slogging through A Tale of Two Cities and >prepping a unit on it. Blah. I've never liked Dickens, and >I've especially never liked this particular book. Maybe there is more fun if you try The Pickwick Papers? Or you could use Martin Chuzzlewit and get hold of the BBC series made a few years ago and show that to the class. Another favourite is Bleak House - the neverending law case might be linked with things going on today? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 05:51:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7BpuwA013406 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:51:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00438568@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 6:51:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3315782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:51:39 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Bpdk08791 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:51:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.107]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107115318.WZZO1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:53:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCA53C2.CF191E83@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 05:51:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021107031243.73F9C7C18@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't know that it's so strange. But I'm very happy that mem found > > that original name since it was bugging me that I couldn't remember it. > > We first knew her on Words-L as Bree. She later announced that she was > > Shoshanna. > > Doesn't sound like it to me: > > From: Bree (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) Does to me. I don't remember how long it was before she sprang Shoshana on us, but I do remember that we had known her for a while (as Bree) when she came out with the name "Shoshana." As I said, I'm talking about Words-L only. I had no reason to know which name or names she used in other lives. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 05:55:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7BtKwA013417 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:55:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043858C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 6:55:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3315859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:55:02 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Bt2k09040 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:55:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.107]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107115642.XDJL1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:56:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCA5490.72F6A245@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 05:54:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021107031243.73F9C7C18@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > From: Bree (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) > Subject: Re: Words-l timeline > I've been lurking, first on the list and then after my system crashed > on > the Usenet list, for about 6 months. Finally resubbed to the list and > decided to come out. > > Sho... PS: Was your point that we were supposed to assumed that Shoshana was her name from the "Sho" above? I would be mightily impressed with anybody who could make that leap. Nothing in the above suggests to me that "Sho" is a signature in the first place -- I would take it (unless I already knew her name, of course) as something like "sure" or some other cutsey signoff. And even if I guessed that "Sho" might be a name, it would be a long leap for me from "Sho" to figure out the name "Shoshana." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 06:00:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7C08wA013448 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:00:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004385BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 6:59:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316118 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:59:52 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Bxpk09522 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:59:52 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H570044ZFZRBE@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 05:59:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:01:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCA5603.4060604@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DC82DA0.818CBF88@akad.ee> <5.1.1.6.0.20021107113310.031a17e0@victoria.nb.no> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore wrote: > 18:16 05.11.2002 -0600 skrev Rita Chapman: > >> I'm currently slogging through A Tale of Two Cities and >>prepping a unit on it. Blah. I've never liked Dickens, and >>I've especially never liked this particular book. >> > > Maybe there is more fun if you try The Pickwick Papers? Or you could use Martin Chuzzlewit and get hold of the BBC series made a few years ago and show that to the class. Another favourite is Bleak House - the neverending law case might be linked with things going on today? > Thank you, Espen. These books are a little better, but I'm limited to what I have class sets of. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 06:00:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7C0QwA013452 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:00:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E143B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 7:00:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:00:09 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7C09k10696 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:00:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.107]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107120149.XHYI1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:01:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCA55C3.86268CB6@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:00:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021107031332.87F697C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Booklet? I'm learning lots of new stuff. I've never heard of a ballot > > booklet. > > I thought that was the normal voting method. It's how I voted in MO > and CA. I've never thought of there being what I'd call a voting method since it's well known that the methods vary widely, even within a single state. I've used various voting methods in the various places I've voted in my life (most of which were long ago, of course, since I've lived in the same county for years now), from levers and machines to paper and pencil, but I've never encountered booklets. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 06:02:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7C27wA013458 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:02:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004385D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 7:01:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316192 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:01:50 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7C1ok25702 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:01:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.107]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107120329.XJNF1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:03:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCA5627.209D9506@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:01:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021106204627.00a14110@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > Have you ever read any books by Elizabeth Loftus? No. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 06:03:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7C3IwA013467 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:03:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E1456@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 7:03:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:03:01 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7C31k25847 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:03:01 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5700K9PG50U6@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:03:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:04:17 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Breastfeeding is incest To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCA56C1.8090603@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021107022703.775887C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Rita Chapman said: > >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>Is it true that some places kids nurse regularly till they are 5 or 6? >>>I've heard that before, but have no data on it. >>> >> >> I think 4 or 5. I've seen four years cited a lot as the >>"natural" spacing between children without birth control. >> > > Is that so intimately connected with breastfeeding? We're mostly 4 > years apart, and my Mom never breastfed AFAIK. In theory because breastfeeding is supposed to prevent ovulation (that's where the protection against breast cancer lies), but there's so much variation in individuals that it's meaningless, imo. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 06:04:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7C4PwA013478 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:04:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E1467@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 7:04:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:04:08 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7C48k25955 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:04:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.107]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107120548.XLNA1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCA56B2.B6189238@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 06:04:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tool Lust References: <20021106161411.6A86B7C0A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DC99D5A.98D693D2@maynor.net> <20021107092503.A23320@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph wrote: > = Why don't you teach yourself via trial-and-error. See what works before > = you get too old to bounce. > > Why don't you try that yourself, miss brittlebones. Two reasons: (1) I'm not the one who expressed interest in taking falling lessons. (2) I'm much older than Karen -- see my point about age above. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 06:17:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7CHUwA013566 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 06:17:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00438663@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 7:17:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3316350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:17:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7C7Dk26178 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:07:13 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA7C7BpY025078 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:07:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:07:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DCA5627.209D9506@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Re Loftus, see: Elizabeth Loftus. Memory: Surprising New Insights Into How We Remember and Why We Forget. Reading, MA: Addison Wesley, 1980: 45-49. Elizabeth Loftus. "When A Lie Becomes Memory's Truth: Memory Distortion After Exposure to Misinformation." Current Directions In Psychological Science, August, 1992: 121-123. Elizabeth F. Loftus. "Creating False Memories." Scientific American, September 1997: 70-75. Henry L. Roediger, "Memory Illusions." Journal of Memory and Language, April 1, 1996, v 35 n 2: 76; Henry L. Roediger III, Kathleen B. McDermott. "Creating False Memories: Remembering Words Not Presented in Lists." Journal of experimental psychology, July 1995, v 21 n 4: 803. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:02:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7D2cwA013823 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:02:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E16AA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:02:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318289 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:02:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7D2Hk32707 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:02:17 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-230.panax.com [63.163.41.230]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7D2Gt17444 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:02:16 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:02:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021107052201.65EDC7C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: <00b501c2861c$d080bf60$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Doris Markland said: > > Leno cracked some joke tonight about > > how this verdict will show those Hollywood > > show biz people they can't get by with > > shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, > > maybe, but shoplifting, no. > >Did this make you laugh? >Karen Yes, wasn't it supposed to? --bonniev, unworried, happy, and right here now From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:05:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7D5qwA013838 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:05:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E16C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:05:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:05:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe38.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.95]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7D5Yk00616 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:05:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:05:29 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <001f01c28648$d308c5d0$a5cfc0cb@redbox> Subject: Re: Archives? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:05:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2002 13:05:29.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[58B526F0:01C2865E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://listserv.uga.edu Follow the directions on screen. -aht ----- Original Message ----- From: "Red" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 4:31 AM Subject: Archives? > How do I browse the list's archives? > > Red > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:07:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7D7QwA013846 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:07:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043886D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:07:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:07:09 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7D79k00804 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:07:09 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-230.panax.com [63.163.41.230]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7D77t18531 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:07:08 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080431.009f3ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:06:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Archives? In-Reply-To: <001f01c28648$d308c5d0$a5cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >How do I browse the list's archives? >Red You can see the archives from the last two weeks at ftp://ftp.msstate.edu/docs/words-l/Archives/ And from long ago you can see them at http://www.words-l.net/ At that site there are also pictures and news of the upcoming annual get-together. Thank you mem. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:07:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7D7swA013850 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:07:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00438872@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:07:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:07:37 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7D7bk00836 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:07:37 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7D7aT24107 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:07:36 -0500 Received: from [131.128.1.150] (BEACHBUM.ACC.uri.edu [131.128.1.150]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id gA7D67v08603 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:06:07 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021107070255.8C4267C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <00d301c28629$43fc8940$9d0332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 7, 2002 0:45:30 am" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:09:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: Winona Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Karen >"Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins What is this quote from, Karen? /Jim From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:14:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7DE2wA013882 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:14:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004388B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:13:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:13:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7DDik01199 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:13:45 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-230.panax.com [63.163.41.230]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7DDht19961 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:13:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081027.009fc400@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:13:28 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: the WHTMs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mem, I just noticed what a wonderful job you did on the WHTMs, complete with photos of authors. For a good picture of Clyde, you may go to Larry Clark's site: http://members.home.net/lgclark/clyde.htm Except it doesn't seem to be up right now. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:19:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7DJQwA013925 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:19:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00438910@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:19:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3318899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:19:09 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7DJ8k02089 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:19:08 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-230.panax.com [63.163.41.230]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7DJ7t21062 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:19:07 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081739.00a03ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:18:53 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: bonniev Subject: Scotland Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU With regard to the recent discussion of the Lake District, and I am sad to see nothing from Marie this morning, here again (thanks to mem) is the story of our 1995 trip there. Beware, it is long and not the final edit. http://www.arrirang.net/whtm/bv/bonnie-scotland.htm --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:22:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7DMkwA013941 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:22:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00438955@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:22:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3319069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:22:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7DMSk02496 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:22:29 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-30.panax.com [63.163.41.30]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7DMRt21972 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:22:27 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081525.00b30c70@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:22:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> References: <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:23 PM 11/6/2002 -1000, mem wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------- > >From: Bree (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) >Subject: WHENCE COMMETH BREE.... >Date: 1995/10/30 > And finally, although I hesitate to admit >it, we are Tolkein lovers. Enough to admit to reading the trilogy >at least once a year. Like much else of her life (as reported to words-l), I rather suspect that the devotion to Tolkein---the annual reading---existed more in imagination than in fact. She was occasionally using the name (or the business signature) when I joined the list, whenever that was. A few times in replies to her, I threw in very obvious references or well-known phrases from Tolkein. They either blew right past her or she professed ignorance. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 07:49:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7DnJwA014110 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:49:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00438B46@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 8:49:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3320230 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:49:02 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f142.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Dn1k05448 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:49:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 05:48:56 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:48:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: For Bonnie Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:48:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2002 13:48:56.0385 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AA51310:01C28664] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Below is my whtm...it got captured and held hostage by the listser Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com > >>From: bonniev > >>again. We've been there twice and each time I felt like we could have >done > >>better on the accommodations without a good clue as to what that better > >>would be. > > > >I suppose this response didn't do: > > > >Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:02:21 EST > >>From: bonniev > >>I know a good place to stay in Salisbury. Did you like the place you >chose > >>to stay in the Lake District?? > > > >Loved it! It was right on the water and had a really good restaurant, so >we > >ate there every breakfast and dinner (it was included). It was pricey, >but > >really nice. Loved the Lake District! > > > >Did I tell you that we were very happy that we took the walk to >Castlerigg? > > > >Marie > > lounge_ascher@hotmail.com > > > >________________________ > > > >The hotel/B&B that we stayed at was the Wateredge in Ambleside, which > >Frommer's describes as a "winning little choice". Here are some pictures: > >http://www.ambleside.u-k.org/adverts/wateredge/main.html. > > > >On the day we arrived -- from London -- we were very very hungry. We were > >between meals at the hotel (they served breakfast, lunch and dinner to >all > >guests every day) but they offered us some soup. Two huge bowls of creamy > >wild mushroom soup arrived in our room shortly thereafter. Soup was the > >thing to eat on this trip. I figure they do soup so well because it's >soup > >weather all the time. Soup and tea. Our room itself was sort of overly > >that>, kind of froufrou frilly, and not in the oldest part of the >building. > >But we were at ground level, with lakefront views and access. > > > >The thing that really stands out about the place as a place to stay is >the > >food. We stayed there for I think three nights, and we ate every single > >breakfast and dinner at the hotel. More food than we should eat, all very > >rich, and very delicious. Duck, lamb, fish. I think it was all very >British > >but that British cooking has come a long way. > > > >I'm sure this isn't helpful. I can't entirely recommend the place because > >like you I know there is probably better, you might have stayed in >better, > >although I saw no flaw from the staff, to the accommodations themselves, >to > >the setting, and of course, the food. > > > >They had boats with little outboard motors (that's right, right? -- a >little > >puttery thing) for guests to use so one day (or twice) we went out on the > >lake (Windermere, that is) and tied our boat to a dock over at Bowness, > >which is apparently the town where Bill and Hillary got engaged. We had > >lunch there, soup of course. And pints. Yes, soup and pints. A cute >little > >town of curvy roads. We were quite taken with Ambleside and the whole >area > >-- the stonework, the quaintness of these towns, the natural beauty of >the > >area. One cabbie said the Texans who visit refer to the stone walls as > >"stone fences". > > > >One day we played pitch n putt golf in Ambleside, which seemed a very > >British thing to do, me in my red Doc Marten's (procured in London), > >however. I do not have a talent in this area. I had to climb a wall into >an > >adjoining cemetery at one point. > > > >We bussed to near Castlerigg, and then walked along that very >hallucinogenic > >path to the stone circle. I think I had something of an out-of-body > >experience along there. Maybe I ate something funny. When we got there, > >though, there was a group of adults picnicking in the > >middle of the circle. I got some really good pictures in which I don't > >include any people, and it looks like I'm in the coolest, most serene >place > >ever, because my pictures don't come with audio. The walk was the best >part. > > > >Oh, we also went to Wordsworth's home in...ahem, Cockermouth. > > > >>Also: did you hike? > > > >We took some walks in the woods, but we didn't . We didn't bring >the > >best footwear for it. > > > >did you love the stone walls? > > > >Indeed. > > > > did you see > >>lots of > >>sheep? > > > >Of course, particularly in Ireland where they just wouldn't get out of >the > >road, but that's probably another story. > > > >did it rain all the time? > > > >No, but it did rain often. > > > >did you love Scotland? > > > >Edinburgh was a pleasant surprise. > > > >did you > >>see > >>stone circles? > > > >Only Castlerigg. > > > >Marie > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 08:16:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7EGuwA014244 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:16:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00438DFC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 9:16:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3321874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:16:39 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7EGck09054 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:16:38 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-168.panax.com [63.163.41.168]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7EGbt00497 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:16:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107090536.009fb280@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:15:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: For Bonnie In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you for the fuller explanation of your stay in the Lake District. It sounds like your lodging was very nice, better than ours. Ours also was on Lake Windemere but further down, on the west shore. We didn't have boats available to us or very good food. We ended up eating most nights at a little Italian restaurant in Bowness on Windemere. I can't imagine the place we were staying arranging for soup to be brought to our rooms. It wasn't that personal. I'm glad you had a near out-of-body experience walking to Castlerigg. It was the setting, not the state of your stomach!! > Our room itself was sort of overly , kind of froufrou frilly, I think all the lodging might be like that. >>I'm sure this isn't helpful. I can't entirely recommend the place because >>like you I know there is probably better, That is exactly my feeling. There was nothing really wrong with the places we stayed. It's just that I was more comfortable in other lodgings in other parts of Scotland and England. The Red Lion Inn in Salisbury, for example, is wonderful. It has a nice feeling of an old English lodge. Then there was the place in Nairn, Scotland which was awesome. We had the Top Room which has a view out to the North Sea. That's the place with Zuberflute, the white cat. Their dining room became a stage theatre in the winter. The had a picking garden with edible flowers. Etc. etc. On the wall next to my desk here, I have a painted photograph which is a close-up of two sheep, looking at the camera, their wool matted with snow. It makes me think of the Lake District. It was amazing to me how the sheep just stood in the rain, looking so patient, or maybe stupid. Thanks, Marie. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:07:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7F71wA014495 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:07:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00439360@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:06:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3326345 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:06:43 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7F6h618803 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:06:43 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H57OJE02.0S2 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:04:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCA8206.D7F227E1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 08:08:54 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood References: <20021107032804.3C1017C18@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > This was one post I found that cracked me up: > > "Not to be confused with the "original" Miranda Ruling (named after > Carmen Miranda), which holds a person liable for any accident or > injury which results from the wearing of noxious or distracting > attire. On some level this is way weird. Not 30 minutes ago I was looking in Anger's "Hollywood Babylon II" at a picture of Carmen Miranda without any skanties. I don't know what this means. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:28:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FSvwA014613 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:28:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00439631@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:28:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3327603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:28:38 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:U+fkBc/rifqc8bPa1A5wQozNloJUAN3W@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FIc621666 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:18:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D94C2FE1F for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 415A77C12; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:18:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tool Lust In-Reply-To: <3DCA56B2.B6189238@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 7, 2002 6: 4: 2 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:18:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107151837.415A77C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > steph wrote: > > > = Why don't you teach yourself via trial-and-error. See what works before > > = you get too old to bounce. > > > > Why don't you try that yourself, miss brittlebones. > > Two reasons: (1) I'm not the one who expressed interest in taking > falling lessons. (2) I'm much older than Karen -- see my point about > age above. "Much" older??? I don't think so. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:29:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FTXwA014618 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:29:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439642@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:29:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3327650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:29:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:D9WuI40D+kn4i4mYs2CPVuJtnituvG9D@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FJD621788 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:19:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 637372FE1F for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3F4A87C0C; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:19:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 7, 2002 8: 2: 0 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:19:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107151913.3F4A87C0C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Doris Markland said: > > > Leno cracked some joke tonight about > > > how this verdict will show those Hollywood > > > show biz people they can't get by with > > > shoplifting anymore . . . . killing your wife, > > > maybe, but shoplifting, no. > > > >Did this make you laugh? > >Karen > > Yes, wasn't it supposed to? I don't think it's funny. > --bonniev, unworried, happy, and right here now :) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:30:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FU9wA014642 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:30:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00439659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:29:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3327711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:29:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:21KuWTNfp3oS25f06/uM+oCpOP21SlTI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FJo621871 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:19:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0142FE1F for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DDFE27C12; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:19:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: from Jim Bradley at "Nov 7, 2002 8: 9:11 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:19:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107151949.DDFE27C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jim Bradley said: > >Karen > >"Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins > > What is this quote from, Karen? Even Cowgirls Get The Blues. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:32:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FWvwA014662 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:32:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004396D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:32:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3330449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:32:38 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FWc627715 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:32:38 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gA7FWc49322267 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC7DA6B3 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:32:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: FW: Tackle Hunger- football fans Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:32:39 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <002701c28672$e7d38cf0$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Hi, >I thought you football fans would like to do this once in a >while. Go to >http://www.chunky.com/click_for_cans.asp alec ------------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" - Albert Einstein From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:35:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FZiwA014677 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:35:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439748@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:35:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3328908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:35:23 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:gPk75sV2zm+Vr/wNMNIY6HVR5XLBrcaZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FPM623700 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:25:23 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6167A2FD67 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3D9C27C10; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:25:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Elwood In-Reply-To: <3DCA8206.D7F227E1@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 7, 2002 8: 8:54 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 07:25:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107152522.3D9C27C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > This was one post I found that cracked me up: > > > > "Not to be confused with the "original" Miranda Ruling (named after > > Carmen Miranda), which holds a person liable for any accident or > > injury which results from the wearing of noxious or distracting > > attire. > > On some level this is way weird. Not 30 minutes ago I was looking > in Anger's "Hollywood Babylon II" at a picture of Carmen Miranda without > any skanties. > I don't know what this means. On any level, this is way weird. It was very funny to me that I remembered this post vividly, but in my mind, I connected it to Elwood, not the poster. I remember laughing for days about this. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:39:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FdpwA014700 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:39:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E2825@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3331695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:29 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FdS630069 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:28 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCA89C5.830106F0@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:41:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood References: <20021107152522.3D9C27C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > On any level, this is way weird. It is indeed weird, but this is very like what I have mentioned twice this week when Words-L and the Book Mania list have had parallel threads. (reminder--lard and mayo and there are no bad dogs, only bad people). alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:40:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FeCwA014705 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:40:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E282E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3331732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:53 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Fdr630156 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:53 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FdrT08063 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:39:53 -0500 Received: from [131.128.1.150] (BEACHBUM.ACC.uri.edu [131.128.1.150]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id gA7FbTv08816 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:37:29 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021107151949.DDFE27C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: from Jim Bradley at "Nov 7, 2002 8: 9:11 am" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:40:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Jim Bradley Subject: Re: Winona Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Jim Bradley said: >> >Karen >> >"Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins >> >> What is this quote from, Karen? > >Even Cowgirls Get The Blues. > My least favorite of his books. /Jim >Karen >"Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:49:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7FnhwA014769 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:49:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E2982@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:49:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:49:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FnO632209 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:49:24 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-146.panax.com [63.163.41.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7FnNt19368 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:49:23 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104719.009f8440@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:49:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021107151913.3F4A87C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Did this make you laugh? > > >Karen > > > > Yes, wasn't it supposed to? > >I don't think it's funny. >Karen Yes, well, I was one of the few people I know who thought it was great that OJ got away with murder. To me it seemed American Justice, at its best. I guess it's the cynic in me that thinks money rule. Otherwise what's it all about? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:51:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7Fp3wA014788 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:51:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043997F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:50:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3332917 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:50:44 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Foi632471 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:50:44 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-146.panax.com [63.163.41.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Foht19659 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:50:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:50:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021107151913.3F4A87C0C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > --bonniev, unworried, happy, and right here now > >:) -- Karen Even way back in the convent, one of my favorite mottos was "Be Here Now". It's even the name of a book, which I still have on a bookshelf some place here. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 09:57:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7Fv9wA014831 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:57:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439A43@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:56:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3333699 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:56:50 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Fuo601668 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:56:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA7Funu05830 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:56:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001a01c28676$8985b7a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Winona Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:58:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Even way back in the convent, one of my favorite mottos was "Be Here > Now". It's even the name of a book, which I still have on a bookshelf some > place here. > > > --bonniev Some of the unhappiest people I've met seemed to live by "Be here then." - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:08:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7G8LwA014902 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:08:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00439B82@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:08:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3334578 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:08:03 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7G82603747 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:08:03 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-146.panax.com [63.163.41.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7G81t23363 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:08:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107110626.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:07:46 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <001a01c28676$8985b7a0$9d0332d1@0018079268> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Some of the unhappiest people I've met >seemed to live by "Be here then." > - D. M. You mean they live in the past? I guess that would depend on if you are able to forget the troubles of the past and put a rosy glow on everything. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:14:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GE2wA014951 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:14:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439C25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:13:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3334293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:13:43 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:98R05kA5be8tCtNRLm5o39BHifBSqPgR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7G3h603077 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:03:43 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC45A2FE6B for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7D1217C15; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:03:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: from Jim Bradley at "Nov 7, 2002 10:40:33 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:03:42 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107160342.7D1217C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jim Bradley said: > >Jim Bradley said: > >> >Karen > >> >"Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins > >> > >> What is this quote from, Karen? > > > >Even Cowgirls Get The Blues. > > > > My least favorite of his books. I'm watching the movie. It's not a very good movie, which is too bad. Tom Robbins narrated it. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:15:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GFAwA014976 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:15:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439C50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:14:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3334365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:14:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tNpOx7Npd9ecTzye92LhA5sr5e1JZmAr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7G4p603237 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:04:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60E22FE48 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A1C227C29; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:04:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104719.009f8440@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 7, 2002 10:49: 7 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:04:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107160450.A1C227C29@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > > >Did this make you laugh? > > > >Karen > > > > > > Yes, wasn't it supposed to? > > > >I don't think it's funny. > >Karen > > Yes, well, I was one of the few people I know who thought it was great that > OJ got away with murder. To me it seemed American Justice, at its best. I > guess it's the cynic in me that thinks money rule. Otherwise > what's it all about? I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:21:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GLLwA015019 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:21:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00439D14@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:21:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3334835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:21:02 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:qzGhNFJ9cnlKajHqjV/uFsG6/f7h9p2M@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7GB2604217 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:11:02 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5692FE28 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6CEF57C16; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:11:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107110626.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 7, 2002 11: 7:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:11:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107161101.6CEF57C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Some of the unhappiest people I've met > >seemed to live by "Be here then." > > - D. M. > > You mean they live in the past? I guess that would depend on if you are > able to forget the troubles of the past and put a rosy glow on everything. But that's why they are unhappy--because they can't do that. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:24:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GO9wA015030 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:24:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439D79@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:23:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3336290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:23:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:E94j61ELXt0zxsR4G+/gqTIU9t/8scKZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7GNo607432 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:23:50 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595382FE58 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D00B62B862; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B584E2B850 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Internet Librarian In-Reply-To: <3DC9C281.3389B9A4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, John Williams wrote: > Was he wearing his beanie? I think it might have had a visor but maybe not. A bunting cap. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:33:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GXqwA015088 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:33:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439E8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:33:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:33:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7GXX609585 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:33:33 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-66.panax.com [63.163.41.66]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7GXWt28456 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:33:32 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107113231.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 11:33:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021107160450.A1C227C29@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104719.009f8440@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes, well, I was one of the few people I know who thought it was great that > > OJ got away with murder. To me it seemed American Justice, at its best. I > > guess it's the cynic in me that thinks money rule. Otherwise > > what's it all about? > >I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. >Karen The exception proves the rule. She won't see jail time, though. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:43:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GhXwA015140 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:43:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00439FB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:43:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3338733 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:43:14 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7GhE612907 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:43:14 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA7GhDu00840 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:43:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003a01c2867d$05a30940$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107110626.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: Winona Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:44:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Some of the unhappiest people I've met > >seemed to live by "Be here then." > > - D. M. > > You mean they live in the past? I guess that would depend on if you are > able to forget the troubles of the past and put a rosy glow on everything. > > > --bonniev I wasn't thinking of past troubles, but rather of using the past as the measuring stick so that nothing seems as good today as it was "in the old days".. Those who live with this frame of mind seem to miss the good things happening today. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:45:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GjFwA015171 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:45:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00439FDF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:44:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3337685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:44:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4gkgc5QXLm3aglKXVq+/I7YRb2HYkhPs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7GYu610522 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:34:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593E32FDF9 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E945D7C16; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:34:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107113231.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 7, 2002 11:33:15 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:34:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107163454.E945D7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > > Yes, well, I was one of the few people I know who thought it was great that > > > OJ got away with murder. To me it seemed American Justice, at its best. I > > > guess it's the cynic in me that thinks money rule. Otherwise > > > what's it all about? > > > >I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. > >Karen > > The exception proves the rule. Uh-huh. > She won't see jail time, though. I bet she's not nearly as sure of that as you are. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 10:58:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7GwiwA015215 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:58:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E328E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:58:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3340229 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:58:24 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA7GwN615823 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:58:23 -0500 Received: (qmail 23574 invoked by uid 417); 7 Nov 2002 16:52:58 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 16:52:58 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.165]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:52:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "Word - L" Subject: Crotches and waiters? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:28:07 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The other day there was this thing on TV,the guest somehow ends up saying men who shout at waiters hold their crotch when they watch...(she was a female) Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:06:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7H60wA015264 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:06:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E335F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:05:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3340838 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:05:41 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7H5e617288 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:05:40 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA7H6po24441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:06:51 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:06:51 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crotches and waiters? Message-ID: <20021107180651.A24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox>; from mandar-TComp@SOFTHOME.NET on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:28:07PM +0530 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:28:07PM +0530, Red wrote: = The other day there was this thing on TV,the guest somehow ends up saying = men who shout at waiters hold their crotch when they watch...(she was a = female) = = Red And... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:08:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7H8QwA015277 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:08:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043A2EB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:08:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3340217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:08:07 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Gw2615800 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:58:07 -0500 Received: from nowhere.org ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H57TOY01.VTR for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:55:46 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCA9C07.C2A89D4@nowhere.org> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 09:59:51 -0700 From: Anonymous User Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Is there a prize for this sort of thing? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU http://www.aaca.org/siraaca/part_3.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:14:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HEDwA015303 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:14:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043A375@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:13:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3341386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:13:54 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA7HDr618780 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:13:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 24523 invoked by uid 417); 7 Nov 2002 17:10:10 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 17:10:10 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.165]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:10:01 -0700 Message-ID: <003c01c28681$3fa7a610$a5cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107180651.A24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Crotches and waiters? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:45:16 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU S> And... Thought there was some truth in there.. Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:15:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HFXwA015332 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:15:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043A39A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:15:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3341437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:15:15 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7HFE618980 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:15:14 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.237.202]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H57UHM01.NSG for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:12:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCAA023.FD6A270@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:17:23 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a prize for this sort of thing? References: <3DCA9C07.C2A89D4@nowhere.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anonymous User wrote: Hey, like hell! That was ME! (Damn desk computers...) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:26:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HQRwA015414 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:26:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043A4AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:26:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3342543 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:26:07 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7HQ7621624 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:26:07 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA7HRIt24477 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:27:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:27:17 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a prize for this sort of thing? Message-ID: <20021107182717.B24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DCA9C07.C2A89D4@nowhere.org> <3DCAA023.FD6A270@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DCAA023.FD6A270@mail.mc.maricopa.edu>; from williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:17:23AM -0700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:17:23AM -0700, John Williams wrote: = Anonymous User wrote: = = Hey, like hell! That was ME! (Damn desk computers...) = = JMW I knew it was you. It's to go with the: bgsound src="http://www.aaca.org/siraaca/images/Hot_Butter_-_Popcorn_(Techno.mp3" loop="-1"> Why are all the cars (well, most of the cars) red? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:27:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HRpwA015426 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:27:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E3600@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:27:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3343291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:27:24 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7HRN622480 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:27:23 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA7HSYr24486 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:28:34 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:28:33 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crotches and waiters? Message-ID: <20021107182833.C24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107180651.A24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <003c01c28681$3fa7a610$a5cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <003c01c28681$3fa7a610$a5cfc0cb@redbox>; from mandar-TComp@SOFTHOME.NET on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:45:16PM +0530 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 10:45:16PM +0530, Red wrote: = S> And... = = Thought there was some truth in there.. = = Red Which part do you know about, yelling at waiters or holding crotches? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:31:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HVMwA015472 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:31:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E3660@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:31:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3343677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:31:02 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA7HV1623360 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:31:01 -0500 Received: (qmail 3470 invoked by uid 417); 7 Nov 2002 17:30:03 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 17:30:03 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.165]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:30:01 -0700 Message-ID: <006301c28684$0ae6d420$a5cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107180651.A24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <003c01c28681$3fa7a610$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107182833.C24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Crotches and waiters? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:05:15 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU S> Which part do you know about, yelling at waiters or holding > crotches? They both seem connected in some way,don't you think? Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:34:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HYIwA015488 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:34:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043A5B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:33:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:33:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7HXw623946 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:33:58 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-186.panax.com [63.163.41.186]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7HXvt08154 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:33:57 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107123319.009fe020@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:33:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021107163454.E945D7C16@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107113231.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > She won't see jail time, though. > >I bet she's not nearly as sure of that as you are. >Karen It's what I've seen in the press and on cnn.com. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:36:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HaQwA015497 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:36:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043A5E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:36:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3344205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:36:06 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Ha6624381 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:36:06 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA7HbGI24514 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:37:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:37:16 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Crotches and waiters? Message-ID: <20021107183716.D24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107180651.A24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <003c01c28681$3fa7a610$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107182833.C24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <006301c28684$0ae6d420$a5cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <006301c28684$0ae6d420$a5cfc0cb@redbox>; from mandar-TComp@SOFTHOME.NET on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:05:15PM +0530 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:05:15PM +0530, Red wrote: = S> Which part do you know about, yelling at waiters or holding = > crotches? = = They both seem connected in some way,don't you think? = = Red Seeing as I can't remember a time when I've done either, um, no. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:43:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7Hh6wA015562 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:43:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043A6B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:42:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:42:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f142.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.142]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Hgk626235 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:42:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:42:41 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:42:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: http://www.fifty.cc/womeninbuilding/ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:42:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2002 17:42:41.0041 (UTC) FILETIME=[11FDC010:01C28685] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Tushar Samant >I find the graphic obscene. That's hilarious. How did you find that? What would bring you to that page? 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    = From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:47:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HlwwA015619 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:47:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043A74A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Hld627624 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:39 -0500 Received: from webmail.utk.edu (abbott.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.169]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA7HlXpY010007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT); Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:34 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: dumasb Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:33 -0500 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: English Language Discussion Group Cc: dumasb@utk.edu X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002286 Subject: RE: Hey Bethany Message-ID: <3DCEBE5E@webmail.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: x Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita, I'll be at PF tomorrow - and check on St. Louis area barns. Also, I will receive a script this week for a commercial that will feature Maria - I gave permission yesterday for her to appear in a commercial for the Patricia Neal Rehab Center. Her former owner's newest wife works there - and he was a patient there after his near-fatal fall from Maria. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:48:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HmHwA015625 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:48:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043A74F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345743 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:57 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA7Hlv627680 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:47:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 24366 invoked by uid 417); 7 Nov 2002 17:44:16 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2002 17:44:16 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.165]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:44:12 -0700 Message-ID: <007401c28686$0739bfc0$a5cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107180651.A24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <003c01c28681$3fa7a610$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107182833.C24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <006301c28684$0ae6d420$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107183716.D24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Crotches and waiters? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:18:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU S> Seeing as I can't remember a time when I've done either, um, no. I figured it had something to do with control,power... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:50:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7HoRwA015633 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:50:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043A78F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:50:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3345940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:50:08 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Ho7628100 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:50:07 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust232.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.234]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:50:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCAA863.187492E4@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:52:35 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Is there a prize for this sort of thing? References: <3DCA9C07.C2A89D4@nowhere.org> <3DCAA023.FD6A270@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Anonymous User wrote: > > Hey, like hell! That was ME! (Damn desk computers...) I knew it was you. At first I wasn't going to open it, but that I saw Mesa CC and I became trusting. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 11:55:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7Ht1wA015661 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 11:55:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E3955@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:54:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3346293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:54:41 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Hsf628846 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:54:41 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:54:35 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:54:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 12:54:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2002 17:54:35.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC0FB1C0:01C28686] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Natalie Maynor >I dunno. Brad might well have been part of it. But I think I was >first. This is the earliest I find re "Nipper": From: Phyllis C. Petree (ppetree@CABELL.VCU.EDU) Subject: Re: Feed the cat, fire Mrs. Nezbits View this article only Newsgroups: bit.listserv.words-l, 95, 1:, 34, pm Date: 1995/06/14 > >Greetings, > >On Wed, 14 Jun 1995, Alan Wild wrote: > > form the 1st virtual pack of dogs. Sociologists no doubt are modeling > > after you. Marty, who plays the role of the nipper,... Natalie as the > > matriarch,... Gubert as an adolescent male bucking with dellusions of >alpha. > >Oh, no! Sociologists are studying us again! Don't let Graham find out. > >Nipper the list-bastard. > I think you have acquired a list-nickname, Nipper. -- -- Phyllis ppetree@cabell.vcu.edu Marie lounge_ascher@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 12:04:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7I4UwA015707 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:04:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043A8DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:04:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3346992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:04:11 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f57.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.57]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7I4Am30850 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:04:10 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:04:05 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:04:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Winona Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 13:04:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2002 18:04:05.0147 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F60C6B0:01C28688] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Jim Bradley > >Even Cowgirls Get The Blues. > >My least favorite of his books. I think "Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas" was his most lame. It's been a while. I liked the last one -- the pyramid one whatever it was. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 12:34:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7IYVwA015904 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:34:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043AC23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:34:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3350484 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:34:12 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7IYBF06698 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:34:11 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA7IYBu12982 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:34:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c2868c$85786ac0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000701c2867e$dc093f30$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107180651.A24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <003c01c28681$3fa7a610$a5cfc0cb@redbox> <20021107182833.C24438@yoccoz.multinix.com> <006301c28684$0ae6d420$a5cfc0cb@redbox> Subject: Re: Re: Crotches and waiters? Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:36:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > S> Which part do you know about, yelling at waiters or holding > > crotches? > > They both seem connected in some way,don't you think? > > Red Only for Michael Jackson and some rock stars who connect their crotch to just about anything. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 12:35:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7IZswA015911 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 12:35:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043AC49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:35:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3350711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:35:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f158.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.158]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7IZYF07205 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:35:34 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 10:35:28 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:35:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: need an exorcist Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:35:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2002 18:35:28.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[7239CFD0:01C2868C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: >Natalie Maynor said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > Rita Chapman said: > > > > Yes. I know it is essentially voting for nobody, but my > > > > other alternative would have been voting for nobody... I > > > > just couldn't cast for the major party candidates and not > > > > need a shower after. > > > > > Exactly. Although Ligniere gave me a lecture about that, too. > > > Which is better -- doing that or just not voting at all? >I don't think it matters. Voters who couldn't stomach voting >Democratic is why the Republicans won what they need. "If you're not with us, you're against us". > I'm not looking forward to the next six years. Tuesday was such a bummer to fans of gridlock. I've been predicting the death of the Democratic party for so long - since I dunno, 1988 ? - 'twas interesting to see it finally happen. Wonder how much money Dubya will raise between now and Nov 2004. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 13:25:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7JPZwA016239 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:25:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043B222@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:25:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3356236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:25:10 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7JPAF20551 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:25:10 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA28810 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:25:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9F8BC38699; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:25:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:25:09 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Unworried and happy people are dorks, and most probably so are ones who are "here now". You can't get much more than a buncha vulgar, cheery, baseline nonsense out of them, and so I steer clear of them. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 13:44:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7JidwA016326 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:44:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043B461@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:44:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3357805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:44:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7JiJF24111 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:44:19 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA10643 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:44:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1D93838699; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:44:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:44:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: http://www.fifty.cc/womeninbuilding/ Message-ID: <20021107194417.GD12137@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 12:42:40PM -0500, Marie Ascher wrote: > From: Tushar Samant > >I find the graphic obscene. > > That's hilarious. How did you find that? What would bring you to that page? http://www.ntk.net/2002/11/01/ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 13:44:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7JiowA016329 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:44:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043B467@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:44:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3357818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:44:30 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7JiSF24133 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:44:28 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA7Jjet24678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:45:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:45:40 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 01:25:09PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = vulgar, cheery, baseline nonsense out of them, and so I steer ^^^^^^^^ don't use this word right now. i'm having aversions. mostly because i'm not going to get any baseline. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 13:46:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7JkawA016353 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:46:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043B490@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:46:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3358048 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:46:16 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7JkGF24676 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:46:16 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA11670 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:46:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 974F838699; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:46:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:46:15 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 08:45:40PM +0100, steph wrote: > = vulgar, cheery, baseline nonsense out of them, and so I steer > ^^^^^^^^ > > don't use this word right now. i'm having aversions. mostly > because i'm not going to get any baseline. Could you elaborate? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 14:00:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7K0NwA016418 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:00:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043B623@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:00:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3359216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:00:02 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7K02F27478 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:00:02 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA7K1A224707 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:01:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:01:10 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 01:46:15PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 01:46:15PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 08:45:40PM +0100, steph wrote: = > = vulgar, cheery, baseline nonsense out of them, and so I steer = > ^^^^^^^^ = > = > don't use this word right now. i'm having aversions. mostly = > because i'm not going to get any baseline. = = Could you elaborate? we have no baseline version of the code. we're working from two cvs's. the guy who thought he knew how to tag the whole thing up, merge it correctly, etc, well, his contract is up. i'm responsible for the fix/tst/uat environments for the current version and i haven't a clue what we have in there except it's a copy of production. it's not pretty. it's not going to get to be pretty. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 15:29:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7LTHwA016872 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:29:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E5575@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:28:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3369299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:28:53 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7LSc916040 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:28:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.48]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107213018.TJAT7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:30:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCADAFF.C25475F6@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 15:28:31 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Re Loftus, see: ?? Is this in reply to this: > > Have you ever read any books by Elizabeth Loftus? > > No. If so, I don't get the reason for it. Most of what you've listed are articles. And if I wanted to read a book by her, I wouldn't have trouble finding it. It's not as if I'd never heard of her and knew nothing about her theories. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 15:37:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7LbjwA016961 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:37:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043C2A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:37:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3370384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:37:24 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7LbG918351 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:37:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.48]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107213851.TPPA7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:38:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCADD01.D0AF5ECE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 15:37:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107110626.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> <003a01c2867d$05a30940$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > >Some of the unhappiest people I've met > > >seemed to live by "Be here then." > > > - D. M. > > > > You mean they live in the past? I guess that would depend on if you > are > > able to forget the troubles of the past and put a rosy glow on > everything. > > > > > > --bonniev > > I wasn't thinking of past troubles, but rather of > using the past as the measuring stick so that > nothing seems as good today as it was "in the > old days".. Those who live with this frame of > mind seem to miss the good things happening > today. I thought your "be here then" meant future -- as in they're always living in the future. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 15:41:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7LfRwA016986 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:41:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E577E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:41:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3370696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:41:06 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Lf6919146 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:41:06 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA13511 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:41:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B0FB638699; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:41:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:41:05 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:01:10PM +0100, steph wrote: > we have no baseline version of the code. we're working from two > cvs's. the guy who thought he knew how to tag the whole thing > up, merge it correctly, etc, well, his contract is up. This "guy" story gives me a bad feeling. There might be many more unpleasant surprises. > i'm responsible for the fix/tst/uat environments for the current > version and i haven't a clue what we have in there except it's a > copy of production. it's not pretty. it's not going to get to > be pretty. Passing lightly over the question of what's uat is--who needs baseline? Get to hacking. "Cycle and epicycle, orb in orb"... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 15:42:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7LgXwA016991 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:42:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043C344@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:42:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3370771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:42:12 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Lg7919377 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:42:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.48]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107214347.TTXI7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:43:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCADE28.790B5069@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 15:42:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > This is the earliest I find re "Nipper": It doesn't show who wrote the crucial part, though -- at the >> level below. > >On Wed, 14 Jun 1995, Alan Wild wrote: > > > form the 1st virtual pack of dogs. Sociologists no doubt are modeling > > > after you. Marty, who plays the role of the nipper,... Natalie as the > > > matriarch,... Gubert as an adolescent male bucking with dellusions of > >alpha. > > > >Oh, no! Sociologists are studying us again! Don't let Graham find out. > > > >Nipper the list-bastard. > > > > I think you have acquired a list-nickname, Nipper. > > -- > -- Phyllis > ppetree@cabell.vcu.edu -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 15:53:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7LrHwA017098 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 15:53:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043C4C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:52:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3370885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:52:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Lgu919558 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:42:56 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA7LgqpY014104 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:42:53 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:42:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Pres. John W Shumaker agrees with me Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This afternoon, I attended a reception at the library for faculty newly promoted or tenured. One of Pres Shumaker's first sentences, addressed to the faculty, was "You are the University of Tennessee." I knew you would want to know ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 16:11:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7MB7wA017211 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:11:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E5CD0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:10:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3373096 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:10:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7M0k923015 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:00:46 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA7M0jpY025238 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:00:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:00:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DCADAFF.C25475F6@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >If so, I don't get the reason for it. Most of what you've listed are >articles. And if I wanted to read a book by her, I wouldn't have >trouble finding it. It's not as if I'd never heard of her and knew >nothing about her theories. Good. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 16:16:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7MGXwA017281 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:16:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043C7D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:16:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3375347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:16:12 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7MG7926607 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:16:08 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA7MG7u24429 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:16:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c286ab$85865c60$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107110626.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> <003a01c2867d$05a30940$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DCADD01.D0AF5ECE@maynor.net> Subject: Re: Re: Winona Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:17:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > are > > > able to forget the troubles of the past and put a rosy glow on > > everything. > > > > > > > > > --bonniev > > > > I wasn't thinking of past troubles, but rather of > > using the past as the measuring stick so that > > nothing seems as good today as it was "in the > > old days".. Those who live with this frame of > > mind seem to miss the good things happening > > today. > > I thought your "be here then" meant future -- as in they're always > living in the future. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) That could work exactly the same way, I guess, couldn't it? People who say "Some day I'm going to do such and such . ." but who don't do anything today. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 16:33:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7MX4wA017404 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:33:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043C944@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:32:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3376395 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:32:43 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail110.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7MWh928760 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:32:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.164]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021107223422.VJMW7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:34:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCAEA04.1ECD88C6@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:32:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107110626.009ff840@pop3.norton.antivirus> <003a01c2867d$05a30940$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DCADD01.D0AF5ECE@maynor.net> <000601c286ab$85865c60$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > That could work exactly the same way, I guess, > couldn't it? People who say "Some day I'm going > to do such and such . ." but who don't do anything > today. Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 16:43:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7MhCwA017495 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:43:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E5F76@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:42:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3376981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:42:51 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Mgo930048 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:42:50 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-234.panax.com [63.163.42.234]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Mgmt15029 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:42:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107174155.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:42:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <3DCADAFF.C25475F6@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Have you ever read any books by Elizabeth Loftus? > > > > No. > >If so, I don't get the reason for it. Most of what you've listed are >articles. And if I wanted to read a book by her, I wouldn't have >trouble finding it. It's not as if I'd never heard of her and knew >nothing about her theories. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I've never heard of her and know nothing about her theories. Who is she and what are her theories? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 16:47:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7MlOwA017564 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:47:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043CA4C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:47:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3377215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:47:03 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Ml3930569 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:47:03 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.12.28634141 (18251) for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:46:51 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12.28634141.2afc475a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:46:50 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Winona To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/07/2002 10:15:03 AM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. >> But she's not being sent to prison. If she had not been a celebrity, she would be sent to prison for grand theft. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 16:49:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7MnhwA017578 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:49:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043CA7A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:49:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3377306 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:49:22 -0500 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7MnM930783 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:49:22 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.17d.117fd772 (18251) for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:49:08 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17d.117fd772.2afc47e4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:49:08 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Winona To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/07/2002 10:46:50 AM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << I bet she's not nearly as sure of that as you are. >> The prosecutor herself said that she was not seeking jail time for Winona. She said that she wants Winona to get probation and community service and pay restitution. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 17:08:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7N8owA019786 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:08:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6202@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:08:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3378039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:08:28 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7MwS932195 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:58:28 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA7MwQpY031451 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:58:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:58:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107174155.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, bonniev wrote: >I've never heard of her and know nothing about her theories. Who is she >and what are her theories? Briefly, she has established that memory is not static - that it is inevitablly influenced by events subsequent to the remembered event. Also she has demonstated that memory can be affected by the language of queries about past events. For example, asking "Did you see the red car?" elicits more recollections of a red car than "Did you see a red car?" Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 17:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7N97wA019791 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6204@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3378068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:08:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:nO06Spakmhuykk9t+P+kt0K4QmAN/KKF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7Mwj932236 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:58:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E81B2FE7A for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 127867C15; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:58:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <12.28634141.2afc475a@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Nov 7, 2002 5:46:50 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:58:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107225845.127867C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > In a message dated 11/07/2002 10:15:03 AM Central Standard Time, > karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > > << > I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. > > > >> > > But she's not being sent to prison. If she had not been a > celebrity, she would be sent to prison for grand theft. It's a first offense and not a violent crime. That's why the prosecutor said that they are not asking for jail time. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 17:09:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7N9rwA019801 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:09:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043CC70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:09:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3378092 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:09:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Y74vzuJyYZYIKicRVsDDwdEHch2n8SmT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7MxV932287 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:59:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4B52FF2A for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:59:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 021437C15; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:59:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <17d.117fd772.2afc47e4@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Nov 7, 2002 5:49: 8 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 14:59:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021107225930.021437C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > In a message dated 11/07/2002 10:46:50 AM Central Standard Time, > karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > > << > I bet she's not nearly as sure of that as you are. > >> > > The prosecutor herself said that she was not seeking > jail time for Winona. Yes, I read that a few minutes ago. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 17:10:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7NAawA019806 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:10:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6224@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:10:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3379076 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:10:15 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7NAE901227 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:10:14 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-30.panax.com [63.163.41.30]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7NACt21294 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:10:12 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107180646.00b70708@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:07:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Pres. John W Shumaker agrees with me In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:42 PM 11/7/2002 -0500, bethany prattled: >This afternoon, I attended a reception at the library for faculty newly >promoted or tenured. One of Pres Shumaker's first sentences, addressed to >the faculty, was "You are the University of Tennessee." That was in lieu of the pay increase...and he clearly knew his audience. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 17:13:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7ND9wA019820 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:13:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6245@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:12:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3379163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:12:44 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7NCh901444 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:12:43 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA00687 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:12:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id DB3C138699; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:12:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:12:42 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Message-ID: <20021107231242.GA11684@pobox.com> References: <3DCADE28.790B5069@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCADE28.790B5069@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:42:00PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Marie Ascher wrote: > > > This is the earliest I find re "Nipper": > > It doesn't show who wrote the crucial part, though -- at the >> level > below. Friggin NIPPER. Jeeze! > > > On Wed, 14 Jun 1995, Alan Wild wrote: > > > > form the 1st virtual pack of dogs. Sociologists no doubt are modeling > > > > after you. Marty, who plays the role of the nipper,... Natalie as the > > > > matriarch,... Gubert as an adolescent male bucking with dellusions of > > > > alpha. > > > > > >Oh, no! Sociologists are studying us again! Don't let Graham find out. > > > > > >Nipper the list-bastard. > > > > > > > I think you have acquired a list-nickname, Nipper. > > > > -- Phyllis > > ppetree@cabell.vcu.edu From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 17:35:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA7NZvwA019928 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:35:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E63BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:35:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3380313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:35:35 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA7NZY904030 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:35:35 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA7NZYu02534 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:35:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001601c286b6$9fbf9d20$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:36:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >I've never heard of her and know nothing about her theories. Who is she > >and what are her theories? > > Briefly, she has established that memory is not static - that it is > inevitablly influenced by events subsequent to the remembered event. Also > she has demonstated that memory can be affected by the language of queries > about past events. For example, asking "Did you see the red car?" elicits > more recollections of a red car than "Did you see a red car?" > > Bethany All of that makes sense to me. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:15:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80FcwA020156 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:15:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6676@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:15:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3382643 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:15:16 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail122.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80FG909158 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:15:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.97]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108001650.HHGU1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCB020E.DE3F0D7@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:15:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107174155.00a05ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I've never heard of her and know nothing about her theories. Who is she > and what are her theories? She writes things about memory and how false memories can be implanted. She became somewhat famous a while back as a spokesperson against the repressed-memory idea -- the thing about how somebody could have a repressed memory ferreted out by a shrink. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:16:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80GowA020164 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:16:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6685@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:16:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3382036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:16:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RUq7CLTQ3eLdbtpZCD+QyDUEyfbJO0X7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA806S908202 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:06:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FC52FEA1 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6DE357C16; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:06:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Nov 7, 2002 9: 1:10 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:06:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108000627.6DE357C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph said: > the guy who thought he knew how to tag the whole thing > up, merge it correctly, etc, well, his contract is up. Danger, Will Robinson, Danger! > it's not pretty. it's not going to get to > be pretty. At least it's a job! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:18:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80ITwA020169 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:18:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043D151@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:18:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3382954 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:18:07 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail022.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80I6909446 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:18:07 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.97]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108001940.HJSY1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCB02B8.267E5CA9@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:18:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Briefly, she has established that memory is not static - that it is > inevitablly influenced by events subsequent to the remembered event. Also I'm far from an expert on her, but I know I've read criticisms of her theories. Iow, I don't think "established" necessarily goes with her (although it's surely obvious that memory can be influenced by subsequent events). > she has demonstated that memory can be affected by the language of queries > about past events. For example, asking "Did you see the red car?" elicits > more recollections of a red car than "Did you see a red car?" And that, of course, is common sense. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:19:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80JdwA020175 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:19:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043D160@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3383002 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80JG909565 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:16 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-30.panax.com [63.163.41.30]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80JCt05511 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:12 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107191759.00b72388@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:19:05 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021108000627.6DE357C16@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:06 PM 11/7/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >At least it's a job! Yeah. That's also what they told the guy at the zoo who had to administer enemas to the elephants. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:19:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80JjwA020178 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:19:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6715@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3383022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:22 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail022.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80JM909576 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:19:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.97]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108002056.HKUC1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCB0304.A4FD4DF3@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:19:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: <3DCADE28.790B5069@maynor.net> <20021107231242.GA11684@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > It doesn't show who wrote the crucial part, though -- at the >> level > > below. > > Friggin NIPPER. Jeeze! Betcha not. > > > > On Wed, 14 Jun 1995, Alan Wild wrote: > > > > > form the 1st virtual pack of dogs. Sociologists no doubt are modeling > > > > > after you. Marty, who plays the role of the nipper,... Natalie as the > > > > > matriarch,... Gubert as an adolescent male bucking with dellusions of > > > > > alpha. > > > > > > > >Oh, no! Sociologists are studying us again! Don't let Graham find out. > > > > > > > >Nipper the list-bastard. > > > > > > > > > > I think you have acquired a list-nickname, Nipper. > > > > > > -- Phyllis > > > ppetree@cabell.vcu.edu -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:35:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80ZPwA020258 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:35:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043D261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:35:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3383273 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:35:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ugOUXw0Fk7mrsa6tnRg+hj+SCpX0ulzg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80P3910127 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:25:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ADD62FE26 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 18A8D7C15; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:25:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107191759.00b72388@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 7, 2002 7:19: 5 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 16:25:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108002502.18A8D7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 04:06 PM 11/7/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > >At least it's a job! > > Yeah. That's also what they told the guy at the zoo who had to administer > enemas to the elephants. The Austin Zoo doesn't seem to have any elephants--or jobs. http://austinzoo.org/OnlineTour/webmap.asp Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:56:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80uWwA020348 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:56:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043D3B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:56:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3385420 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:56:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80uA914889 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:56:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.80]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H58FTA03.HUF for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:53:34 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCB0B5B.13EF2709@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:54:51 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona References: <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107191759.00b72388@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Yeah. That's also what they told the guy at the zoo who had to administer > enemas to the elephants. "What, and leave show business?" JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 18:57:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA80vLwA020353 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:57:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043D3CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:56:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3385548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:56:59 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA80uw915149 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:56:58 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.80]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H58FV501.NU8 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 17:54:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCB0B9E.3A0ECAA5@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:55:59 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Briefly, she has established that memory is not static - that it is > inevitablly influenced by events subsequent to the remembered event. It isn't? > Also > she has demonstated that memory can be affected by the language of queries > about past events. For example, asking "Did you see the red car?" elicits > more recollections of a red car than "Did you see a red car?" It doesn't? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 19:34:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA81Y0wA020561 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:34:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043D637@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:33:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3387971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:33:37 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA81Xb920081 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:33:37 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA81Xau00867 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:33:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Jeesh Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:35:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The Jesus box (that may have contained the bones of his brother James) developed a crack on its way from Israel to Canada. Boy, somebody is gonna catch hell. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 19:35:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA81ZlwA020571 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:35:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E6CC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3388021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA81ZO920218 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:35:24 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5800HSWHQW3Q@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:35:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:35:34 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: After JMW's own heart To: words-l Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCB14E6.50504@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just graded a paper arguing the relative merits of two pistols used by the army... m19something vs. a beretta? I could only think of John. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 19:36:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA81apwA020578 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:36:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043D656@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:36:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3388063 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:36:29 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA81aT920330 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:36:29 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5800G4WHSSZQ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:36:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 19:36:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Are there nice dentists? To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCB1529.8050103@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021107003702.860577C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Rita Chapman said: > >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >> >>>Rita Chapman said: >>> >>> >>>>Karen Kay wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>I have no idea how I teach all day. I have no people >>>>>>skills. Maybe I have two personalities or something. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>Why do you think you have no people skills? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Because I'm a little oversensitive to whether somebody is >>>>annoyed with me, so I overcompensate or just don't feel >>>>right, etc. Whatever. Not very interesting. >>>> >>>> >>>I think of people who have no people skills as being entirely >>>insensitive. >>> >> >> It's all the same if it causes you to react inappropriately. >> > > Maybe. Who decides what's appropriate? Society in the greater sense, I imagine... but in the smaller sense me and the person I'm talking to. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 19:55:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA81tVwA020711 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:55:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043D786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:55:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3388918 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:55:09 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA81t8922443 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:55:08 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.80]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H58IK301.XSP for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 18:52:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCB193A.23CB4257@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 18:54:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: After JMW's own heart References: <3DCB14E6.50504@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I just graded a paper arguing the relative merits of two > pistols used by the army... m19something vs. a beretta? M1911 v/s an M9. Hmmmm. > I could only think of John. Hey, you could have thought of Joe and Jim and some other J's at the same time! 8-) JMW, who thinks his subscription to Guns & Ammo *and* Stuff explains the nondescript car watching my house through binoculars... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 20:05:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA825SwA020784 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:05:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043D800@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:05:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3389167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:05:06 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8255923138 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:05:05 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-42-198.panax.com [63.163.42.198]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8253t30535 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:05:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107210424.009e24b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:04:44 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: After JMW's own heart In-Reply-To: <3DCB14E6.50504@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I just graded a paper arguing the relative merits of two >pistols used by the army... m19something vs. a beretta? >Rita Rouvalis Chapman Automatic F ? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 20:46:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA82kMwA021029 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:46:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043DA18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:45:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3390617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:45:59 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA82jx926202 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:45:59 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust147.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.149]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCB25F1.5F98CA92@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:48:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh References: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > The Jesus box (that may have contained > the bones of his brother James) developed > a crack on its way from Israel to Canada. > Boy, somebody is gonna catch hell. It was probably a Sign. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 20:51:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA82pRwA021048 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:51:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043DA60@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:51:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3390784 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:51:04 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA82p2926604 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:51:03 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-30.panax.com [63.163.41.30]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA82p1t08277 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:51:01 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107215013.00b731d0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:50:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Jeesh In-Reply-To: <3DCB25F1.5F98CA92@valstar.net> References: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:48 PM 11/7/2002 -0500, alyce wrote: >Doris Markland wrote: > > > > The Jesus box (that may have contained > > the bones of his brother James) developed > > a crack on its way from Israel to Canada. > > Boy, somebody is gonna catch hell. > >It was probably a Sign. ...as in "Here's your..."? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 20:52:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA82qYwA021057 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:52:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043DA6D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:52:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3390814 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:52:11 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA82qB926707 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:52:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.103]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108025351.FIEU282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCB26D5.726E5564@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 20:52:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh References: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DCB25F1.5F98CA92@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > Boy, somebody is gonna catch hell. > > It was probably a Sign. I heard a lunch yesterday that expert crack-fixers said they could probably fix it. Meanwhile, Alyce, did you talk to the doctor today? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 21:27:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA83RiwA021254 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 21:27:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043DCBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:27:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3393830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:27:20 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA83RK900934 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:27:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.218]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108032900.GQJP282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:29:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCB2F0F.9E6C261D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:27:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Life sure is simpler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU How did we live before web life? Actually, this is the first time I've ever thought about the possibility of finding somebody's wedding registration at an online store, but it occurred to me that people in Houston might be registered at Crate & Barrel. And sure enough they were. So I have now taken care of buying a wedding present that I had been thinking I'd have to go to Columbus to shop for and then box up and mail. But C&B popped their registry right up, I picked a gift, and C&B will take care of the rest since they have their address for the delivery. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 7 22:48:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA84mIwA021687 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043E258@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:47:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3401291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:47:51 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA84lo909641 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:47:50 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-157.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.157]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gA84lnu03973 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:47:49 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c286e2$3e678de0$9d0332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107215013.00b731d0@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: Jeesh Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 22:49:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > > > The Jesus box (that may have contained > > > the bones of his brother James) developed > > > a crack on its way from Israel to Canada. > > Alyce: It was probably a Sign. > Clyde: ...as in "Here's your..."? I wonder if it will become known as the Jesus crack. - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 00:36:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA86aBwA022429 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:36:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E8421@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 1:35:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3406747 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:35:37 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA86Zb918164 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:35:37 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA86apY25835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:36:51 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:36:51 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:41:05PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 03:41:05PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 09:01:10PM +0100, steph wrote: = > we have no baseline version of the code. we're working from two = > cvs's. the guy who thought he knew how to tag the whole thing = > up, merge it correctly, etc, well, his contract is up. = = This "guy" story gives me a bad feeling. There might be many = more unpleasant surprises. = Nah. This can't really get more unpleasant. There's more to why he's gone that's not above. Part of it was him, part is new mgt. showing their colors, maybe part is out with those out for themselves. = > i'm responsible for the fix/tst/uat environments for the current = > version and i haven't a clue what we have in there except it's a = > copy of production. it's not pretty. it's not going to get to = > be pretty. = = Passing lightly over the question of what's uat is--who needs = baseline? Get to hacking. "Cycle and epicycle, orb in orb"... User Acceptance Test. As for hacking, what do you think they're doing? It's just that one group is hacking in Paris on the next version, one group is hacking on the current version, and when the new comes to get written over the old, well, it's very ugly for us all. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 00:47:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA86lVwA022481 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:47:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043E8BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 1:47:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3406969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:47:06 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA86l5918871 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:47:06 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA86mKn25851 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:48:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:48:20 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108074820.B25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108000627.6DE357C16@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021108000627.6DE357C16@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:06:27PM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:06:27PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: = steph said: = > the guy who thought he knew how to tag the whole thing = > up, merge it correctly, etc, well, his contract is up. = = Danger, Will Robinson, Danger! = The code, the code has been like this from the beginning. It won't get much worse. As for the attrition (if you can call it that), I think it's just tree shaking. = > it's not pretty. it's not going to get to = > be pretty. = = At least it's a job! = and I do appreciate that! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 00:48:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA86mPwA022486 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:48:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043E8C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 1:48:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3406990 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:48:01 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA86m0918929 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:48:00 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA86nFO25860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:49:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:49:15 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108074915.C25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108000627.6DE357C16@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107191759.00b72388@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107191759.00b72388@mail.panax.com>; from cwv@PANAX.COM on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:19:05PM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 07:19:05PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: = At 04:06 PM 11/7/2002 -0800, karen wrote: = = >At least it's a job! = = Yeah. That's also what they told the guy at the zoo who had to administer = enemas to the elephants. Thanks for the graphics to go with my breakfast. This is not that bad! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 00:51:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA86p7wA022494 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 00:51:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043E8D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 1:50:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3407027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:50:43 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA86og919036 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:50:42 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA86pv925876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:51:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:51:57 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108075157.D25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107191759.00b72388@mail.panax.com> <20021108002502.18A8D7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021108002502.18A8D7C15@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 04:25:01PM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = The Austin Zoo doesn't seem to have any elephants--or jobs. = http://austinzoo.org/OnlineTour/webmap.asp = = Karen I heard the other day that they're talking about no longer keeping elephants in zoos. Their life expectancy is drastically reduced. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 01:43:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA87hcwA022674 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:43:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043EBB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 2:43:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3409617 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 02:43:07 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA87h6924520 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 02:43:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 20117 invoked by uid 417); 8 Nov 2002 07:39:11 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 07:39:11 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.165]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:39:09 -0700 Message-ID: <003701c286fa$a906b410$a5cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "Word - L" Subject: HOWTO encourage women in Linux Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:14:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Interesting reading this...I loved the word feminazis... http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/11/6/02420/2553 Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 05:41:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8BfjwA024004 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 05:41:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043F31E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 6:41:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3414098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:41:18 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8BfH909833 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:41:17 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HVP6>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:41:17 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HVP5; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:41:16 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108124038.030b99d0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:41:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <20021106220846.A1D667C38@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:08 06.11.2002 -0800 skrev Karen Kay: >Marie Ascher said: >> Janet used to be Verdant. I'm not sure Shoshana was always Shoshana. My name >> isn't really Marie. > >Shoshana was always Shoshana. Er - no. She changed her name to mark her choice of being Jewish. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 05:43:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8BhewA024011 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 05:43:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043F341@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 6:43:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3414122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:43:13 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8BhC909949 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:43:12 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HVQH>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:43:13 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HVQG; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:43:11 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108124215.030ebe80@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:43:05 +0100 Subject: Re: WHTMmie: What I got to know about Scottish pubs In-Reply-To: <3DC9B0CE.F17D00DD@maynor.net> References: <3DC97957.F0EAD32F@akad.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 18:16 06.11.2002 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Kristin Sarv wrote: > >> So I just made my way backward to the door, perplexed and richer by a >> piece of knowledge that in Scotland both the signifier and the signified >> of the above-mentioned dark beverage were apparently unknown in pubs and >> one shouldn't ever mention them. > >I wonder if they had tea. About what time was it? At least back a good >many years ago, some pubs in England (but I'm not sure about Scotland) >turned into tea places at exactly the time of day USAers think of as >cocktail hour. This was one of the differences between England and Scotland, I believe, until the English pubs also were allowed to stay serving all day. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 05:57:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8BvTwA024074 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 05:57:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043F3CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 6:57:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3412455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:57:02 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Bv1910814 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:57:01 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HVRV>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:57:02 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HVRT; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:56:58 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108125633.00ba7e90@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:56:51 +0100 Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081525.00b30c70@mail.panax.com> References: <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:22 07.11.2002 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >At 04:23 PM 11/6/2002 -1000, mem wrote: >>------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>From: Bree (bree@SMARTLINK.NET) >>Subject: WHENCE COMMETH BREE.... >>Date: 1995/10/30 > > >> And finally, although I hesitate to admit >>it, we are Tolkein lovers. Enough to admit to reading the trilogy >>at least once a year. > >Like much else of her life (as reported to words-l), I rather suspect that >the devotion to Tolkein---the annual reading---existed more in imagination >than in fact. She was occasionally using the name (or the business >signature) when I joined the list, whenever that was. A few times in >replies to her, I threw in very obvious references or well-known phrases >from Tolkein. They either blew right past her or she professed ignorance. Who is Tolkein? Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 05:57:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8BvdwA024078 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 05:57:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043F3CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 6:57:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3412460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:57:11 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8BvB910821 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:57:11 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5900CCRAJB13@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 05:57:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 05:58:26 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: After JMW's own heart To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCBA6E2.8050703@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107210424.009e24b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> I just graded a paper arguing the relative merits of two >> pistols used by the army... m19something vs. a beretta? >> Rita Rouvalis Chapman > > > Automatic F ? > No. Actually, I'm kicking it back today with no credit because he didn't put it in MLA format (the major point of this particular assignment). Otherwise, it's about a C essay at this point. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 07:13:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8DDWwA024447 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:13:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043F7E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 8:13:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3415929 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:13:04 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8DD4901647 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:13:04 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-17.panax.com [63.163.41.17]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8DD3t14686 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:13:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108081146.00b33370@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:12:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108125633.00ba7e90@victoria.nb.no> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081525.00b30c70@mail.panax.com> <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:56 PM 11/8/2002 +0100, espen wrote: >Who is Tolkein? Sorry---it's Tolkien cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 07:20:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8DKhwA024507 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:20:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043F869@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 8:20:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3416356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:20:15 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8DKF902647 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:20:15 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3HWCX>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:20:16 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3HWCW; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:20:11 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108141934.030f4e88@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:20:05 +0100 Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108081146.00b33370@mail.panax.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108125633.00ba7e90@victoria.nb.no> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081525.00b30c70@mail.panax.com> <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:12 08.11.2002 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >At 12:56 PM 11/8/2002 +0100, espen wrote: > >>Who is Tolkein? > >Sorry---it's Tolkien Ah - I was wondering if you wrote it that way on purpose since Shoshana wrote it that way. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 07:39:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8DdMwA024589 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:39:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043F9EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 8:38:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3417638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:38:54 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Dcs905885 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:38:54 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-17.panax.com [63.163.41.17]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Dcqt19788 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:38:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108083759.00b475b0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:38:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108141934.030f4e88@victoria.nb.no> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108081146.00b33370@mail.panax.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20021108125633.00ba7e90@victoria.nb.no> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081525.00b30c70@mail.panax.com> <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:20 PM 11/8/2002 +0100, espen wrote: > >Sorry---it's Tolkien > >Ah - I was wondering if you wrote it that way on purpose since Shoshana >wrote it that way. That may be true, but it's no excuse. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 07:48:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8Dm3wA024642 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:48:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E94A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 8:47:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3418180 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:47:35 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8DlY907212 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:47:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8DlX324572 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:47:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBC074.4140E081@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 07:47:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Survivor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Why was Jake going on and on about feeling personally responsible for having let down his tribe, and why were the others comforting him and saying that they weren't blaming him? Why *should* the ones who popped right up out of the water be blaming him? Were they not in the game also? Afaik, Jake didn't even have a way to realize that it was down to a one-on-one contest at the end and that he needed to stick it out howevermany minutes. I guess maybe the thing he said later about being the tribe's strongest swimmmer might be related, although this contest wasn't about swimming. If I understood correctly what was going on under the water, it seemed to me that much of it had to do with lung strength in blowing out the water that leaked in. I'm nevertheless glad they lost. I wish they'd outsted Pennyshit instead of the other bland bambi, though. I really thought by tribal council time that it would be the policeman who would go. He seemed so oddly quiet and out of the loop or something. (As noted before, of course, we see only parts of what goes on.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:00:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8E01wA024702 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:00:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E95EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 8:59:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3419173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:59:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8DxX909737 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:59:33 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-17.panax.com [63.163.41.17]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8DxVt23938 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:59:32 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108085826.00b48a58@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:59:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108141934.030f4e88@victoria.nb.no> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108081146.00b33370@mail.panax.com> <5.1.1.6.0.20021108125633.00ba7e90@victoria.nb.no> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107081525.00b30c70@mail.panax.com> <3DC94212.7243.1845BAD@localhost> <3DC9CAEC.3ED65B66@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:20 PM 11/8/2002 +0100, espen wrote: >Ah - I was wondering if you wrote it that way on purpose since Shoshana >wrote it that way. I meant to say that I might have been influenced by her erroneous use, but that is not an excuse for doing the same thing. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EBSwA024755 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0043FCE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:11:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3419392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:11:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:G62Gu+uTqkjvPkZBRnrlVjq1llvUfXiR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8E10910277 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:01:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09CA2FDEA for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 842A87C1D; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:00:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021108074820.B25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Nov 8, 2002 7:48:20 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:00:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108140059.842A87C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph said: > As for the attrition (if you can call it > that), I think it's just tree shaking. Love this term! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:12:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8ECBwA024761 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:12:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043FCFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:11:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3419469 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:11:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vM4+FMrzKXZ8q3cQrT8eu0sdDfJRZtRy@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8E1i910468 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:01:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C762FE0F for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 73CBE7C26; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:01:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021108075157.D25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> from steph at "Nov 8, 2002 7:51:57 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:01:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108140143.73CBE7C26@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU steph said: > = > = The Austin Zoo doesn't seem to have any elephants--or jobs. > = http://austinzoo.org/OnlineTour/webmap.asp > = > = Karen > > I heard the other day that they're talking about no longer > keeping elephants in zoos. Their life expectancy is drastically > reduced. Well, where do kids see elephants?@! In circuses. Bah! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:12:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8ECtwA024773 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:12:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E975B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:12:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3419495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:12:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:cBkOFaBQT+/7cLuMq2oz3hvH6zM4AZBn@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8E2S910569 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:02:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E3F2FDEA for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E19EE7C25; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:02:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021108124038.030b99d0@victoria.nb.no> from Espen Ore at "Nov 8, 2002 12:41:10 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:02:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108140227.E19EE7C25@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Espen Ore said: > 14:08 06.11.2002 -0800 skrev Karen Kay: > >Marie Ascher said: > >> Janet used to be Verdant. I'm not sure Shoshana was always Shoshana. My name > >> isn't really Marie. > > > >Shoshana was always Shoshana. > > Er - no. She changed her name to mark her choice of being Jewish. On the net. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:14:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EEhwA024782 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:14:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043FD34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:14:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3420588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:14:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EEG913171 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:14:16 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-27.panax.com [65.114.190.27]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EEEt27380 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:14:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108091325.009f9500@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:13:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021108140143.73CBE7C26@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021108075157.D25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, where do kids see elephants?@! In circuses. Bah! >Karen They get taken on safari. First Europe. Then Africa. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:28:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8ESkwA024862 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:28:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043FE93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:28:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3421565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:28:18 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f188.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.188]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8ESH915515 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:28:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:28:12 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:28:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:28:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:28:12.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[114CC180:01C28733] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor > > This is the earliest I find re >"Nipper": > >It doesn't show who wrote the crucial part, though -- at the >> level >below. That was Nipper himself. Not you. Marie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:30:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EUEwA024886 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:30:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E98EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:29:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3421639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:29:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f111.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.111]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8ETk915716 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:29:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:29:40 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:29:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Winona Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:29:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:29:40.0976 (UTC) FILETIME=[4625CF00:01C28733] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Evelyn Duncan >I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. > >But she's not being sent to prison. If she had not been a >celebrity, she would be sent to prison for grand theft. Isn't it up to Saks to decide to which extend they are pressing charges? Marie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:31:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EVUwA024894 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:31:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E9942@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:31:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3421985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:31:02 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f41.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EV2916567 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:31:02 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:30:56 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:30:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:30:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:30:56.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[734A0D70:01C28733] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor > > > It doesn't show who wrote the crucial part, though -- at the >> level > > > below. > > > > Friggin NIPPER. Jeeze! > >Betcha not. You'd lose. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:34:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EYRwA024908 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:34:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043FF47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:33:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:33:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:S3DHNbaeaj9w6QoyRiQy198A4Wv3oDFr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EXx917147 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:33:59 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3052FDF2 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F1B2B60B for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:33:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3DCBC074.4140E081@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Right now a huge winged gargoyle named Zog is sitting in the middle of the hearth X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:33:50 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Survivor Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >wasn't about swimming. If I understood correctly what was going on >under the water, it seemed to me that much of it had to do with lung >strength in blowing out the water that leaked in. I'm sure it was much harder than it looked. I found it odd that it was the Navy swimming instructor who immediately volunteered to sit it out. >I'm nevertheless glad they lost. I wish they'd outsted Pennyshit >instead of the other bland bambi, though. I really thought by tribal >council time that it would be the policeman who would go. He seemed so >oddly quiet and out of the loop or something. (As noted before, of >course, we see only parts of what goes on.) >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) He's annoying, but he's also a good competitor, and the teams haven't merged yet, so there may be more team competitions. The three that remain all have stamina and determination, and they mutually recognized that. Erin, to the best of my recollection, hasn't done a damn thing in past challenges except function as eye candy. Ken Miller Reality Correspondent The Lostin Times From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:34:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EYUwA024911 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:34:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043FF49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:34:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:34:02 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f118.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.118]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EY2917184 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:34:02 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:33:56 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:33:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: HOWTO encourage women in Linux Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:33:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:33:56.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE873540:01C28733] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Red >Interesting reading this...I loved the word feminazis... > >http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/11/6/02420/2553 So RED, how do you feel about women? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:35:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EZGwA024918 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:35:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043FF5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:34:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:34:44 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EYi917258 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:34:44 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:34:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCBCC0A.D8A8C37C@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:36:58 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh References: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DCB25F1.5F98CA92@valstar.net> <3DCB26D5.726E5564@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Meanwhile, Alyce, did you talk to the doctor today? That was what is now yesterday. Yes, I did. He would not give me more antibiotics, saying that the Zythromax keeps working for five days after the last pill (the fifth day being today, Friday). He did, however, prescribe something to promote getting rid of gunk--a mucus-buster. Then there was a snag. I asked the nurse to call the prescription in to the drug store at 9:30 am, because it happened that my neighbor was going there at 11:00 and could pick it up for me. The nurse said she would. At 1:30, my neighbor arrived empty-handed. She had gone there at 11:00 and the call had not arrived. She went on to get her hair cut and do other errands and returned to the drug store at 1:00, and there still was no prescription. I called the nurse in a fit of pique and she said she had called it in. Then I called the drugstore and the pharmacist said the call came in about five minutes after my neighbor had left. Ergo, I suspect that the nurse forgot. And so, I am getting up my gumption now to go get it myself. Meanwhile, I felt somewhat better yesterday. Today I feel better than I did before yesterday, but not as well as I did yesterday. Doctor said that if I did not feel fine by Monday that I'd have to call the pulmonologist--that he would not go any farther without her opinion. She is only in this vicinity on Wednesdays, and I know if I call her other office, she will say to go get a CT scan, which she wanted me to do in July, but I demurred. Going to the hospital for that is a real hassle. You can't park anywhere near the entrance. The disabled parking places are minimal and about 1/2 a city block away, which means that I'd have to get someone to drive me. That, in itself, is not impossible, but I hate to have someone waiting, waiting, because the X-ray and CT scan people are always late with their appointments. I should add that the hospital has so-called valet parking for people like me. However, the last time I tried that, the man (an elderly volunteer) couldn't master a stick shift and left my car blocking the hospital entrance so that everyone else had to go around in an awkward way. Luckily, I was only getting stuck for blood, so I was not there long. But a scan might be a very different story. I waited over two hours the last time. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:37:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EbBwA024929 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:37:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043FF91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:36:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422391 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:36:43 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Eah917608 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:36:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8EaU313530 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:36:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBCBED.91850EA@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:36:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona References: <20021108075157.D25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021108091325.009f9500@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Well, where do kids see elephants?@! In circuses. Bah! > >Karen > > They get taken on safari. First Europe. Then Africa. Where in Europe are there safaris? One doesn't have to go on a safari to see non-zoo/non-circus elephants, though. One can see working elephants in Thailand, among other places. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:37:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EbVwA024933 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:37:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0043FF98@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:37:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422414 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:37:03 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Eb3917695 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:37:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:37:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCBCC96.8B51CAA9@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:39:18 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HOWTO encourage women in Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >From: Red > >Interesting reading this...I loved the word feminazis... > > > >http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/11/6/02420/2553 Presumably Rush Limbaugh does not air in Red's neighborhood. Red, Rush Limbaugh is a very right-wing (and to my mind, despicable) radio personality. The word you like is his coinage. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:39:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EdVwA024939 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:39:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0043FFC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:39:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3422690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:03 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Ed3918410 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:38:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCBCD0B.4EA435CB@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:41:15 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona References: <20021108075157.D25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021108091325.009f9500@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCBCBED.91850EA@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Where in Europe are there safaris? No, no. I think that Bonnie meant that after the obligatory European tour, children are taken on safari. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:41:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8Ef2wA024949 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:41:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E9AB7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:39:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3423044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f145.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EdI918528 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:18 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:39:12 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:39:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:39:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:39:12.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B126B80:01C28734] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >the tribe's strongest swimmmer might be related, although this contest >wasn't about swimming. If I understood correctly what was going on >under the water, it seemed to me that much of it had to do with lung >strength in blowing out the water that leaked in. Nonetheless, I would think an experienced swimmer would be more comfortable with the concept of a snorkel, and swallowing a little water, etc. I was surprised that Helen, the Navy swim instructor, for instance, was the one who sat out of the CG tribe, since Clay is clearly a terrible swimmer (and sure enought the first one out of the water -- after Penny.) >I'm nevertheless glad they lost. I wish they'd outsted Pennyshit >instead of the other bland bambi, though. I think the comment, "We should all sleep together tonight" won her some big points with the boys. Did you see the eyes? Erin with the boobs was much more of a hottie, but she doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:41:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EfpwA024960 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:41:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044001B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:40:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3423066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:27 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EdR918587 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8EdA314837 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:39:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBCC6C.C1FD198C@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:38:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > >From: Natalie Maynor > > This is the earliest I find re > >"Nipper": > > > >It doesn't show who wrote the crucial part, though -- at the >> level > >below. > > That was Nipper himself. Not you. I wonder why the attribution doesn't show up. I remember when reading Alan's dog description thinking about sociologists and Project H. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:41:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EfpwA024961 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:41:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044001C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:40:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3423083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:32 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EdV918633 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:39:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8EdP314955 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:39:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBCC8B.B3B05102@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:39:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > > Friggin NIPPER. Jeeze! > > > >Betcha not. > > You'd lose. I would concede if given evidence. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:43:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8Eh6wA024976 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:43:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E9B30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:42:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3423987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:42:37 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Egb920974 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:42:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8Ega316430 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:42:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBCD5B.CC11F6A1@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:42:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bookrat wrote: > > >wasn't about swimming. If I understood correctly what was going on > >under the water, it seemed to me that much of it had to do with lung > >strength in blowing out the water that leaked in. > > I'm sure it was much harder than it looked. I don't doubt at all that it was hard. All I'm doubting is their reasons for seeming to suggest that it was Jake's responsibility to win for them. > I found it odd that it was the Navy swimming instructor who immediately > volunteered to sit it out. I'm surprised she's still around. I've found her since day one. > Erin, to the best of my recollection, hasn't done a damn thing in past > challenges except function as eye candy. I haven't paid much attention to the bambis until that nastiness with Penny last week. Has she contributed any more than Erin? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:45:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8Ej0wA024989 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:45:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004400A9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:44:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3424140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:44:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f137.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.137]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EiV921388 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:44:32 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:44:26 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:44:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:44:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:44:26.0313 (UTC) FILETIME=[55D98390:01C28735] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor > > > > Friggin NIPPER. Jeeze! > > > > > >Betcha not. > > > > You'd lose. > >I would concede if given evidence. From: Marty Rosen (crosen@INDIANA.EDU) Subject: Re: Feed the cat, fire Mrs. Nezbits View: Complete Thread (38 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: bit.listserv.words-l Date: 1995/06/14 Greetings, On Wed, 14 Jun 1995, Alan Wild wrote: >form the 1st virtual pack of dogs. Sociologists no doubt are modeling >after you. Marty, who plays the role of the nipper,... Natalie as the >matriarch,... Gubert as an adolescent male bucking with dellusions of >alpha. Oh, no! Sociologists are studying us again! Don't let Graham find out. Nipper the list-bastard. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:47:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8ElswA025020 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:47:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00440107@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:47:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3424403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:47:26 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8ElQ922013 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:47:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8ElF317996 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:47:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBCE32.AF9B187E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:46:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh References: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DCB25F1.5F98CA92@valstar.net> <3DCB26D5.726E5564@maynor.net> <3DCBCC0A.D8A8C37C@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I should add that the hospital has so-called valet parking > for people like me. However, the last time I tried that, the man (an > elderly volunteer) couldn't master a stick shift and left my car > blocking the hospital entrance so that everyone else had to go around in > an awkward way. Good grief. Why in the world would somebody volunteer for a driving task when he's driving-impaired? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:49:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EnEwA025028 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:49:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00440128@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:48:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3424521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:48:46 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Emk922257 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:48:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8ElP318051 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:48:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBCE6F.B4B250@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:47:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona References: <20021108075157.D25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021108091325.009f9500@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCBCBED.91850EA@maynor.net> <3DCBCD0B.4EA435CB@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > Where in Europe are there safaris? > > No, no. I think that Bonnie meant that after the obligatory European > tour, children are taken on safari. Oh. I don't think all children are taken to Europe. I, for one, wasn't. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:51:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EpKwA025036 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:51:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E9C6A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:50:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3425114 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:50:45 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Eoj923217 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:50:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8Eoh319436 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:50:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBCF42.51D5E36@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 08:50:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > >I would concede if given evidence. > > Thank you! I don't understand the sighing, though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:51:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EpLwA025039 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:51:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00440194@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:50:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3425145 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:50:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Eom923245 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:50:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:50:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCBCFCE.3F867ECD@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:53:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh References: <000b01c286c7$1ce0bea0$9d0332d1@0018079268> <3DCB25F1.5F98CA92@valstar.net> <3DCB26D5.726E5564@maynor.net> <3DCBCC0A.D8A8C37C@valstar.net> <3DCBCE32.AF9B187E@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Good grief. Why in the world would somebody volunteer for a driving > task when he's driving-impaired? I don't think that there is a list of requirements. They are lucky to get volunteers at all, so take what they can get. There are an awful lot of stick shift vehicles around, though, with all the Blazers and Broncos and pickup trucks. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 08:58:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8EwlwA025072 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:58:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00440269@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 9:58:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3426331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:58:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f58.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8EwJ925576 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:58:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 06:58:13 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:58:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:58:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 14:58:13.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[42F99880:01C28737] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Natalie Maynor >Marie Ascher wrote: > > > >Thank you! I don't understand the sighing, though. You coulda just believed. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 09:01:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8F1SwA025102 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:01:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004402A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:01:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3426476 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:01:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f85.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.85]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8F0j926024 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:00:45 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:00:40 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 15:00:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 10:00:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 15:00:40.0500 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A82A740:01C28737] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Bookrat >I found it odd that it was the Navy swimming instructor who immediately >volunteered to sit it out. My thought was that it was predetermined, and once they decided, or maybe it's decided for them in some order -- although we're not told that -- there's no changing, once the challenge is revealed. >He's annoying They're all pretty annoying. I think I like the porn star the best. Marie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 09:10:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8FAawA025139 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:10:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040E9FBC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:10:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3427396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:10:08 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8FA8927883 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:10:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8FA3326771 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:10:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBD325.B4FD89A9@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:07:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Ch.Dickens4 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > > >From: Natalie Maynor > >Marie Ascher wrote: > > > > > > >Thank you! I don't understand the sighing, though. > > You coulda just believed. Well, yes. I've heard lots of that philosophy lately in quotations from who just believed. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 09:11:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8FB1wA025142 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:11:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004403E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:10:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3427425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:10:33 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8FAX927958 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:10:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8FA7326812 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:10:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBD367.EA0FA784@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 09:08:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher wrote: > My thought was that it was predetermined, and once they decided, or maybe > it's decided for them in some order -- although we're not told that -- > there's no changing, once the challenge is revealed. That could be. I thought I noticed some sort of funny looks when she was named last night as the one sitting it out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 09:37:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8FbawA025280 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:37:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EA221@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:37:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3429212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:37:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f159.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.159]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Fb7V00339 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:37:07 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 07:37:02 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 15:37:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Survivor Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 10:37:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2002 15:37:02.0242 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEEE1020:01C2873C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Marie Ascher >points with the boys. Did you see the eyes? Erin with the boobs was much >more of a hottie, but she doesn't seem to be playing with a full deck. Egad! http://pub124.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm1.showMessage?topicID=24054.topic Marie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 10:02:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8G28wA025425 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:02:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00440A3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:01:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3432757 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:01:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:U6Lyytks9FEwfkgzqcxfQb/4iP9ipKvo@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8G1bV06761 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:01:37 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135782FE5E for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:01:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id DCEBE2B60C; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F1A2B60B for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:01:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:01:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HOWTO encourage women in Linux In-Reply-To: <3DCBCC96.8B51CAA9@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Presumably Rush Limbaugh does not air in Red's neighborhood. Red, Rush > Limbaugh is a very right-wing (and to my mind, despicable) radio > personality. The word you like is his coinage. I didn't know that. I still like the word. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 10:03:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8G3bwA025432 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:03:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00440A87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:03:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3433157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:03:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:U6/wBD4Cq1gUrlolpopc6EdJrcXlUTAc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8G38V07664 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:03:08 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510C92FE60 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 23FAA2B626; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086D32B60C for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:03:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:03:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh In-Reply-To: <3DCBCE32.AF9B187E@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Good grief. Why in the world would somebody volunteer for a driving > task when he's driving-impaired? Early stage of dementia? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 10:10:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8GAXwA025486 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EA75B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:10:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3432633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:10:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fH7NMDKGI0Zcx2NVgwGYcmA3QkZ5qr55@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8G04V06478 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:00:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300122FE60 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 292977C1D; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:00:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Nov 8, 2002 9:29:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:00:00 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108160000.292977C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: Evelyn Duncan > >I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. > > > >But she's not being sent to prison. If she had not been a > >celebrity, she would be sent to prison for grand theft. > > Isn't it up to Saks to decide to which extend they are pressing charges? No. It's the prosecutor who decides. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 10:20:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8GKcwA025548 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:20:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00440C5F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:20:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3433920 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:20:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lh/x++vxCUrxhGrNewO2A83medi+ocDs@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8GA2V09871 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:10:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2C12FE51 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 16D457C29; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:10:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: from Marie Ascher at "Nov 8, 2002 10: 0:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:10:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108161002.16D457C29@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Marie Ascher said: > >From: Bookrat > >I found it odd that it was the Navy swimming instructor who immediately > >volunteered to sit it out. > > My thought was that it was predetermined, and once they decided, or maybe > it's decided for them in some order -- although we're not told that -- > there's no changing, once the challenge is revealed. This is so incredibly obvious. I don't know that it's been stated. It was just bad luck for them that the one time they could use her, she was sitting out. > >He's annoying > > They're all pretty annoying. I think I like the porn star the best. Me, too. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 10:24:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8GO5wA025581 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:24:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00440CB7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:23:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3434174 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:23:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:qnmBif2iEzD/GxDDci/JMj/I8SH4Mlc5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8GDaV10582 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:13:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7862FE3D for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9ACCB7C30; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Jeesh In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Nov 8, 2002 8: 3: 7 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:13:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108161335.9ACCB7C30@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > > Good grief. Why in the world would somebody volunteer for a driving > > task when he's driving-impaired? > > Early stage of dementia? Why would someone let him volunteer for a task he can't do? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 10:26:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8GQmwA025594 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:26:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EA915@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:26:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3435286 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:26:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8GQJV13371 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:26:19 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id KAA06919 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:26:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A3D4038699; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:26:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:26:18 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: HOWTO encourage women in Linux Message-ID: <20021108162618.GA16199@pobox.com> References: <003701c286fa$a906b410$a5cfc0cb@redbox> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003701c286fa$a906b410$a5cfc0cb@redbox> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 01:14:19PM +0530, Red wrote: > http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/11/6/02420/2553 The best way to fight back against sexist jokes is with humor. If someone replies to a post about the technical achievements of a woman with "Is she single?" reply with, "Gee, Jeff, no wonder YOU'RE still single." Nice "humor" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:06:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8H6BwA025788 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:06:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00440D35@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:27:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3435374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:27:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:iSuq9fPnkl7wwlvpgWBpqEKPerlpbNDc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8GRdV13596 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:27:39 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47F02FE38 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 819BF2B60C; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705942B60B for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:27:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:27:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <20021108161636.433E77C18@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > I haven't found her unpleasant, but her CONSTANT recipe-mongering > would have made me want to kill her. HA HA HA HA HA Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:06:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8H6BwA025789 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:06:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00440EFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:39:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3435512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:39:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vZc+C3TI7AkyOfgcVae8jXjUU+UXlCnw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8GTfV13907 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:29:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F532FE63 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C747B7C22; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:29:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Nov 8, 2002 8:27:37 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:29:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108162940.C747B7C22@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > I haven't found her unpleasant, but her CONSTANT recipe-mongering > > would have made me want to kill her. > > HA HA HA HA HA Thank you for appreciating the irony.:) I do NOT spew recipes on the list, though. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:06:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8H6BwA025790 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:06:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00441035@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:49:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3438472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:49:37 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8GnbV19418 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:49:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:49:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCBEBA7.1118866B@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:51:51 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh References: <20021108161335.9ACCB7C30@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Why would someone let him volunteer for a task he can't do? Well, I didn't report him, so perhaps no one knows. Maybe he has not encountered the problem before. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:06:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8H6BwA025787 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:06:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00440D13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:26:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3434523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:26:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:d7w6kFHfGCb9QYWxpHqNIWaU8SmFYRsI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8GGbV11420 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:16:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7876A2FE54 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 433E77C18; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:16:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCBCD5B.CC11F6A1@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 8, 2002 8:42:35 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 08:16:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108161636.433E77C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I don't doubt at all that it was hard. All I'm doubting is their > reasons for seeming to suggest that it was Jake's responsibility to win > for them. I don't think anyone other than Jake suggested that. > > I found it odd that it was the Navy swimming instructor who immediately > > volunteered to sit it out. > > I'm surprised she's still around. I've found her since day > one. I haven't found her unpleasant, but her CONSTANT recipe-mongering would have made me want to kill her. Erin was the only one who engaged her in that, too, so it will be interesting to see if that changes. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:08:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8H8FwA025804 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:08:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044124C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:07:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3440529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:07:47 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8H7kV23685 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:07:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8H7i313144 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:07:44 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBEF5F.44BAA678@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:07:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Jeesh References: <20021108161335.9ACCB7C30@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Early stage of dementia? > > Why would someone let him volunteer for a task he can't do? He could do parts of it, just not all of it -- and the part left out would be 100% for Alyce. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:15:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8HFYwA025852 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:15:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00441320@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3441777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8HF5V26311 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8HEn315949 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:14:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCBF109.2D7B3023@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:14:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20021108161636.433E77C18@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I don't think anyone other than Jake suggested that. Their responses in trying to comfort him certainly seemed to imply it. They were exactly the kinds of things said to people who had indeed been the clear cause of a loss -- like the one to vomit when swallowing nasty stuff or whatever. Nobody said, "But look, Jake. There were three others of us who failed in the first few seconds." > > I'm surprised she's still around. I've found her since day > > one. > > I haven't found her unpleasant, but her CONSTANT recipe-mongering I found her knee-jerk reaction re the alleged sexual stuff negative. I didn't notice her recipeing until last night. I found it ridiculous last night, of course, and found it also somehow out of character for her. She doesn't remind me of somebody into cooking for some reason. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:16:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8HGawA025857 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:16:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00441336@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:16:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3440185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:16:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:9NbWFXB6mCS0WWPiK3ftQu+SjKKqeqhr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8H67V22902 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:06:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0AB2FE83 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E9B17C2B; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:06:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: King Arthur To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:06:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108170606.4E9B17C2B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The flour company.:) I went to the demonstration of artisan bread baking last night. It was PACKED--probably close to 300 people, mostly older people. Less than 1/2 the crowd had bread machines, though, which surprised me. The demonstration was delightfully non-commercial--it was really All About Bread. And the woman who did the demonstration was really good, and I enjoyed her speech. (That New England intrusive -r.) She stressed that she is not a professional baker and several times pointed out how professional bakers do things and how you would get a similar effect at home. She recommended terra cotta tiles on a baking sheet as a cheap alternative to a baking stone. She also recommended boiling water on lava rocks as a source of steam. Among the things I learned: 1) Baguette/epi/boule dough is a cold, wet dough--everything takes place around 50-60 degrees. 2) A boule needs to be formed in a container of some sort, because the dough is so soft. 3) The crust (and the last 1/3 rising) all gets formed in the first 2-4 minutes. So there's no point in adding steam later in the process. She said that she preheats the stone for an hour at 500 degrees, then turns it down after she puts the bread in and adds water for steam. So really, her crust is made at a much higher temperature than the bread is cooked. 4) She suggested sticking a thermometer in the bread to see if it's done: 200 degrees. I thought this was a great demonstration, and I'd recommend it to anyone who has an interest in baking bread. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 11:25:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8HP7wA025885 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:25:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EB1B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:24:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3441708 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:24:38 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tbic7wd55kc8KJ5kN+3sn7MhorAfF8va@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8HEcV26150 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:14:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E810B2FE00 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B61C67C1D; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:14:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Jeesh In-Reply-To: <3DCBCC0A.D8A8C37C@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 8, 2002 9:36:58 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:14:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108171437.B61C67C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > That was what is now yesterday. Yes, I did. He would not give me more > antibiotics, saying that the Zythromax keeps working for five days after > the last pill (the fifth day being today, Friday). Yep, that's the beauty part of this drug. > He did, however, > prescribe something to promote getting rid of gunk--a mucus-buster. Good. > Going to the hospital for that is a real hassle. You can't park anywhere > near the entrance. The disabled parking places are minimal and about 1/2 > a city block away, which means that I'd have to get someone to drive me. > That, in itself, is not impossible, but I hate to have someone waiting, > waiting, because the X-ray and CT scan people are always late with their > appointments. If someone knows this in advance, it's not that bad. (If they have the time.) You can always bring something to do/read. It's much worse when it happens like that when you don't expect it. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 12:12:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8IBwwA026148 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:11:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00441935@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:11:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3447116 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:11:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tibqXMbK323OZU3usNqgOo15piqU1oZb@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8I1RV05235 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:01:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703EF2FDF6 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 32C267C36; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:01:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: New book To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 10:01:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108180127.32C267C36@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From LINGUIST list: Title: The Big Book of Concepts Series Title: Bradford Books Publication Year: 2002 Publisher: MIT Press http://mitpress.mit.edu/ Author: Gregory L. Murphy Hardback: ISBN: 0262134098, Pages: 560, Price: $45 Abstract: Concepts embody our knowledge of the kinds of things there are in the world. Tying our past experiences to our present interactions with the environment, they enable us to recognize and understand new objects and events. Concepts are also relevant to understanding domains such as social situations, personality types, and even artistic styles. Yet like other phenomenologically simple cognitive processes such as walking or understanding speech, concept formation and use are maddeningly complex. Research since the 1970s and the decline of the "classical view" of concepts have greatly illuminated the psychology of concepts. But persistent theoretical disputes have sometimes obscured this progress. The Big Book of Concepts goes beyond those disputes to reveal the advances that have been made, focusing on the major empirical discoveries. By reviewing and evaluating research on diverse topics such as category learning, word meaning, conceptual development in infants and children, and the basic level of categorization, the book develops a much broader range of criteria than is usual for evaluating theories of concepts. Gregory L. Murphy is Professor of Psychology at New York University. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 12:19:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8IILwA026392 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:18:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004419CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:17:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3448351 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:17:42 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8IHgV07832 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:17:42 -0500 Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021108181737.FYAI13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:17:37 +0000 Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:17:34 +0000 From: alfieri@attbi.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:17:34 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Nov 5 2002) X-Authenticated-Sender: YWxmaWVyaUBhdHRiaS5jb20= Message-Id: <20021108181737.FYAI13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Even non-celebrities get a break when it comes to a first offense. I doubt she would have been sent to prison. lisa > In a message dated 11/07/2002 10:15:03 AM Central Standard Time, > karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: > > << > I don't quite get your point. Winona's money didn't rule. > > > >> > > But she's not being sent to prison. If she had not been a > celebrity, she would be sent to prison for grand theft. > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > > Vaya con queso. > -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 12:29:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8ITXwA026643 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:29:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004419A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:15:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3448267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:15:55 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8IFtV07625 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:15:55 -0500 Received: from rwcrwbc70 ([204.127.198.53]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021108181550.FWSY13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:15:50 +0000 Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc70; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:15:44 +0000 From: alfieri@attbi.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:15:44 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Nov 5 2002) X-Authenticated-Sender: YWxmaWVyaUBhdHRiaS5jb20= Message-Id: <20021108181550.FWSY13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At my lead we evaluated and just this week purchased Accurev. We now have the ability to manage our current release stream, 1.1 dev stream and 2.0 projected stream. Two weeks from now we'll be off VSS completely and hopefully never again dealing with trying to track down and merge code in the old fashion, ugly ways. lisa and it only cost $28k for a 30 user license > On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 01:46:15PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 08:45:40PM +0100, steph wrote: > = > = vulgar, cheery, baseline nonsense out of them, and so I steer > = > ^^^^^^^^ > = > > = > don't use this word right now. i'm having aversions. mostly > = > because i'm not going to get any baseline. > = > = Could you elaborate? > > we have no baseline version of the code. we're working from two > cvs's. the guy who thought he knew how to tag the whole thing > up, merge it correctly, etc, well, his contract is up. i'm > responsible for the fix/tst/uat environments for the current > version and i haven't a clue what we have in there except it's a > copy of production. it's not pretty. it's not going to get to > be pretty. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 13:14:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8JEbwA026964 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:14:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00441F23@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:14:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3452666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:14:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8JE7V17058 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:14:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-92.panax.com [63.163.41.92]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8JE5t28851 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:14:06 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108141327.009fc9e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:13:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <3DCBCD0B.4EA435CB@valstar.net> References: <20021108075157.D25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021108091325.009f9500@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCBCBED.91850EA@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Where in Europe are there safaris? > >No, no. I think that Bonnie meant that after the obligatory European >tour, children are taken on safari. >alyce Thank you, Alyce. Yes, that is what I meant. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 13:21:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8JL0wA027048 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:21:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EBEB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:20:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3453101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:20:30 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8JKTV17958 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:20:29 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-92.panax.com [63.163.41.92]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8JKSt30361 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:20:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108141411.009f63c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:20:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCBCD5B.CC11F6A1@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I found it odd that it was the Navy swimming instructor who immediately > > volunteered to sit it out. > >I'm surprised she's still around. I've found her since day >one. -- Natalie I have a feeling they had to choose who would sit out before they heard what the challenge was. They had their clue, though, that it would involve water when they saw the tree mail. I thought it was hilarious how the film editors gave us a good dose of her constant recipe talk. When they cut back to more recipes at night time, I had to laugh. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 14:29:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8KTgwA004753 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:29:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EC3C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:07:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3457052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:07:18 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8K7IV25889 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:07:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8K79319321 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:07:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCC196D.FD92D84E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:07:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <3DCC16F2.54C95841@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Bought > enough food for at least 14 days. Some frozen, but a nice > freshly-rotisseried chicken, too, which will last Spike and me for three > meals. Excellent! > Well, it shows that I can do it, but it surely did > tire me temporarily. It will be easier without the drugstore preface, though. > In future, if I don't have to spend time at the drug store, where the > stupid clerk could not find my prescription for quite a while, I will > have more time to spend studying new grocery products. Aha. You thought of that also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 14:29:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8KTgwA004754 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:29:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EC499@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:16:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3456968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:16:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:KWpbOx1j/E23PSnv4iC5OK17K52BF0hG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8K66V25731 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:06:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E412FDBF for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:06:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4206C7C3B; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:06:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCC18E9.9DC6773B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 8, 2002 2: 4:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:06:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108200605.4206C7C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > We haven't discussed the chicken yet. I'm glad we didn't have to see > the actual wringing. I thought Whatshername, the older woman, showed > great strength in holding onto the headless (or at least neck-broken) > fluttering chicken. I wonder, though, whether its grave really needed a > cross. I find this behavior *very* odd. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 14:33:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8KXWwA004795 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:33:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044248E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:05:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3456821 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:05:03 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8K53V25500 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:05:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([130.18.89.67]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18) with ESMTP; id gA8K4v318355 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:05:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3DCC18E9.9DC6773B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:04:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108141411.009f63c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We haven't discussed the chicken yet. I'm glad we didn't have to see the actual wringing. I thought Whatshername, the older woman, showed great strength in holding onto the headless (or at least neck-broken) fluttering chicken. I wonder, though, whether its grave really needed a cross. Speaking of chickens, do any of y'all get a catalogue called Practica? If so, look at the back of the one that just came (mine came today). Top left, I think it is. Chicken sitting on a potty. Funny picture, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 14:33:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8KXWwA004794 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:33:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044238E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:54:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3456033 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:54:25 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8JsPV23838 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:54:25 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust26.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.28]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:54:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC16F2.54C95841@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:56:34 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: WHTM at the store Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I now have my medicine. While I was out, I went to the grocery for the first time in, perhaps, two years. Lots of new products. But I didn't stay long to browse, because I was getting tired out. I wish stores were not so big. Even though I had arranged my list so that it was efficient and I did not have to backtrack anywhere, it was a long, long walk. Then, I had to go up to the front of the store to find someone to lift Milkbones down from the shelf. Me! I, the tall one, always was the one to do this for others. I bought a beautiful little zucchini, perfect in all respects, which I will steam and cover with butter tonight. Yes, yes, I know this is not a universal taste, but I do love it. After I had left the produce department, the stock person rolled by a cart laden with the most beautiful dainty asparagus. I asked if I could get some, but, no, because he had to go to price it. I didn't want to retrace my steps, so I missed out on that. Also got another sweet potato for baking. Bought enough food for at least 14 days. Some frozen, but a nice freshly-rotisseried chicken, too, which will last Spike and me for three meals. Hot dogs, and some Stouffer's and Swanson frozen stuff. A yuppie soccer mom was blocking the Marie Callendar door, so I will wait for that for another day. Well, it shows that I can do it, but it surely did tire me temporarily. Now that I am back on my machine and sitting, I am not winded any longer. Elapsed time: 1 hours, 23 minutes, door to door. In future, if I don't have to spend time at the drug store, where the stupid clerk could not find my prescription for quite a while, I will have more time to spend studying new grocery products. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 14:42:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8KgBwA004826 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:42:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004428CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:41:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3459663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:41:40 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Kfe531181 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:41:40 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA25712 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:41:39 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B7B7438699; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:41:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:41:39 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 07:36:51AM +0100, steph wrote: > = > we have no baseline version of the code. we're working from two > = > cvs's. the guy who thought he knew how to tag the whole thing > = > up, merge it correctly, etc, well, his contract is up. > = > = This "guy" story gives me a bad feeling. There might be many > = more unpleasant surprises. > > Nah. This can't really get more unpleasant. [...] If you insist. I just have ... *associations*, with this "he knew how to" phrase. It's a strong or weak version of a god-syndrome. The code a mess, modules which were claimed "done" not even begun, duct tape everywhere, the horror, the utter horror, if they made cars this way. > There's more to why he's gone that's not above. The immediate reason for his leaving has nothign to do with my psychic feelings on the issue. > = Passing lightly over the question of what's uat is--who needs > = baseline? Get to hacking. "Cycle and epicycle, orb in orb"... > > User Acceptance Test. > > As for hacking, what do you think they're doing? It's just that > one group is hacking in Paris on the next version, one group is > hacking on the current version, and when the new comes to get > written over the old, well, it's very ugly for us all. LIFE is ugly, "Stevie". Now in a small outfit, this could be brought under control by one strong personality. A personality can be made strong by drinking the bitter tonic--of hideous, boring, legalistic details of version control. You master those, you become a hated tyrant--all for the sake of clarity and order, sanctioned by the Roman name. What was I saying? Oh, right. It's folly to drop theory on the history of a piece of code, time on the deduction of a common origin, or cleverness on intricate merge patterns. Remember Elizabeth Loftus, who has established that memory is not static. To explicate, all your baseline are belong to us, and any freakin thing whatsoever, for instance the opening pages of Reinach, will serve as baseline. Build upon what you have, make two ad hoc forever parallel branches if necessary. This is the state of "engineering" at the beginning of the century. Do not be deluded. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 14:49:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8KniwA004873 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:49:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004429E1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:49:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3460101 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:49:13 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8KnD532079 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:49:13 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA29451 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:49:12 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AB54238699; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:49:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:49:12 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108204912.GD16227@pobox.com> References: <20021108181550.FWSY13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021108181550.FWSY13074.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@rwcrwbc70> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 06:15:44PM +0000, Lisa Alfieri wrote: > At my lead we evaluated and just this week purchased Accurev. > > We now have the ability to manage our current release stream, 1.1 dev > stream and 2.0 projected stream. > > Two weeks from now we'll be off VSS completely and hopefully never > again dealing with trying to track down and merge code in the old > fashion, ugly ways. > > lisa > and it only cost $28k for a 30 user license "Stevie"'s system does everything you need, costs zero dollars for an unlimiteed user license, and is vastly superior to VSS. Yet, look at the soup Stevie is in, that even the word "baseline" produces a nervous reaction. When I hear the "hopefully never" refrain, fat tears roll down my cheeks. I weep when I see an abused people look forlornly to yet another tool for easement of their distress. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 14:56:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8Ku0wA004933 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:56:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00442A89@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:55:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3460604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:55:29 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8KtT500477 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:55:29 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021108205524.GCXO25908.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:55:24 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108125059.03012cc0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 12:54:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Winona In-Reply-To: <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> References: <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant writes, >the horror, the utter horror, if they made cars this way. I use bridges in my examples. Speaking of versioning software, I've heard Subversion mentioned as a worthy successor/replacement of cvs. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 15:20:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8LKCwA005135 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:20:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ECB38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:19:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3461999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:19:41 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8LJe503587 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:19:41 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA8L3sA27109 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:03:54 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:03:54 +0100 From: steph To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 02:41:39PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > Nah. This can't really get more unpleasant. [...] = = If you insist. I just have ... *associations*, with this = "he knew how to" phrase. It's a strong or weak version of = a god-syndrome. The code a mess, modules which were claimed = "done" not even begun, duct tape everywhere, the horror, the = utter horror, if they made cars this way. = Well, what's really interesting is that he was the only one. There's lots of people developing. Why was he the only one with any interest in clean clear version control and smooth code merges? = > There's more to why he's gone that's not above. = = The immediate reason for his leaving has nothign to do with = my psychic feelings on the issue. = The rumour mill ground out a good one today. I will keep with your psychy. = > = Passing lightly over the question of what's uat is--who needs = > = baseline? Get to hacking. "Cycle and epicycle, orb in orb"... = > = > User Acceptance Test. = > = > As for hacking, what do you think they're doing? It's just that = > one group is hacking in Paris on the next version, one group is = > hacking on the current version, and when the new comes to get = > written over the old, well, it's very ugly for us all. = = all your baseline are belong to us, That one I saw coming. = will serve as baseline. Build upon what you have, make two = ad hoc forever parallel branches if necessary. This is the = state of "engineering" at the beginning of the century. Do = not be deluded. Thanks. I don't know why I might have thought it could have been different. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 15:52:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8LqFwA005299 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:52:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ECE8F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:51:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3464244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:51:44 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Lpi508175 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:51:44 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA00352 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:51:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2A0F138699; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:51:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:51:42 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021108215142.GH16227@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:03:54PM +0100, steph wrote: > Well, what's really interesting is that he was the only one. > There's lots of people developing. Why was he the only one with > any interest in clean clear version control and smooth code > merges? Who knows? The reasons that I can think of why one is and others aren't are unflattering to both parties. What other kind of reasons could I think of anyway. But now I have a much better opinion of this guy. He clearly didn't "guard his knowledge" or anything--he just gave up on anybody taking any interest. People don't. They don't for one moment consider it part of their job. Same as what my brother in law said was happening in The Media. There is no holistic conception of the job. How many genius programmers do you see who work hard to achieve *concise English expression* for documenting their code? None? I see ... > = > There's more to why he's gone that's not above. > = > = The immediate reason for his leaving has nothign to do with > = my psychic feelings on the issue. > > The rumour mill ground out a good one today. I will keep with > your psychy. Discovered large-scale "anomalies" in the billing system? > = will serve as baseline. Build upon what you have, make two > = ad hoc forever parallel branches if necessary. This is the > = state of "engineering" at the beginning of the century. Do > = not be deluded. > > Thanks. I don't know why I might have thought it could have been > different. We are all newcomers to software, and we think this is the time when self-taught programmers do great things. Wrong--that was in the 50s, maybe. Right now, it's school-taught programmers doing dumbass things. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 16:53:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8MrYwA005645 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:53:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044345C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:53:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3469297 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:53:03 -0500 Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Mr2517079 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:53:03 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-004neomahp0364.dialsprint.net ([63.186.33.110]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18AHzp-0006Gd-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:53:01 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 15:53:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Elwood From: Theodora Groothof To: English Language Discussion Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3DCA89C5.830106F0@valstar.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on 11/7/2002 8:41 AM, alyce cresap at alybooks@VALSTAR.NET wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: >> On any level, this is way weird. > > It is indeed weird, but this is very like what I have mentioned twice > this week when Words-L and the Book Mania list have had parallel > threads. (reminder--lard and mayo and there are no bad dogs, only bad > people). > > alyce I'm trying once more. I haven't received any mail from anyone in days. When I try to send any, it is returned as unknown, because it is send to ME instead of words-l. Replying seems to be the only way I can get through. Sobbing, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 16:57:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8MvJwA005658 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:57:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044350E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:56:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:56:48 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8Mum517886 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:56:48 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5A00JDF52NVG@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:56:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:58:02 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Elwood To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCC417A.4080609@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > on 11/7/2002 8:41 AM, alyce cresap at alybooks@VALSTAR.NET wrote: > > >>Karen Kay wrote: >> >>>On any level, this is way weird. >>> >>It is indeed weird, but this is very like what I have mentioned twice >>this week when Words-L and the Book Mania list have had parallel >>threads. (reminder--lard and mayo and there are no bad dogs, only bad >>people). >> >>alyce >> > > I'm trying once more. I haven't received any mail from anyone in days. > When I try to send any, it is returned as unknown, because it is send to ME > instead of words-l. Replying seems to be the only way I can get through. > Sobbing, Theo Ah, the plight of the poor *sophisticated* computer user. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 16:58:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8Mw0wA005663 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:58:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ED683@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:57:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3470281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:57:28 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8MvS517975 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:57:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5A00JSN53RWX@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:57:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 16:58:42 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: After JMW's own heart To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCC41A2.1030800@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DCB14E6.50504@swbell.net> <3DCB193A.23CB4257@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >>I just graded a paper arguing the relative merits of two >>pistols used by the army... m19something vs. a beretta? >> > > M1911 v/s an M9. Hmmmm. > > >>I could only think of John. >> > > Hey, you could have thought of Joe and Jim and some other J's at the > same time! 8-) > No, no, this kid is definitely you at 15. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:05:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8N5bwA005703 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:05:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00443643@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:05:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3471246 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:05:02 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8N52519294 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:05:02 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.18a.10ea4881 (3850) for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:04:53 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18a.10ea4881.2afd9d14@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:04:52 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Winona To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/08/2002 8:29:53 AM Central Standard Time, lounge_ascher@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Isn't it up to Saks to decide to which extend they are pressing charges? >> They can decide whether or not to press charges; the charges are up to the prosecutor. The verdict is up to the court (the judge can actually set aside the jury's verdict); the sentencing is up to the judge. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:07:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8N7iwA005713 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:07:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00443667@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:07:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3471382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:07:13 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8N7D519663 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:07:13 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.180.10e21f62 (3850) for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:07:03 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <180.10e21f62.2afd9d96@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:07:02 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Winona To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/08/2002 12:18:04 PM Central Standard Time, alfieri@ATTBI.COM writes: << Even non-celebrities get a break when it comes to a first offense. I doubt she would have been sent to prison. >> For $5,000 worth of clothes and taking the tags off them? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:13:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8NDnwA005741 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:13:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ED842@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:13:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3471782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:13:17 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail225.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.195]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8NDH520401 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:13:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.123]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108231457.GIHY3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:14:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC4506.CFCF1C71@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 17:13:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Research Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Can any of you give sources that either support or debunk the following? > And please contemplate > the fact that much of the government's official year > 2000 (and 1999 too, I believe) economic data has since > been revised downward, because, it seems, the > Clintonistas made a few human errors in their > calculations and reporting before the 2000 election. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:17:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8NHGwA005778 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:17:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ED88A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:16:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3472027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:16:44 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8NGi520922 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:16:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.123]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108231824.GKXL3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:18:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC45D5.E0B323D@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 17:16:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20021108200605.4206C7C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > We haven't discussed the chicken yet. I'm glad we didn't have to see > > the actual wringing. I thought Whatshername, the older woman, showed > > great strength in holding onto the headless (or at least neck-broken) > > fluttering chicken. I wonder, though, whether its grave really needed a > > cross. > > I find this behavior *very* odd. Which part? I don't find burying the animals odd, but I do find it somehow amusing to assume they're Christians. I think I said that a while back re Buddy's grave at Furrbabies. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:22:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8NMWwA005800 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:22:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044377A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:22:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3472327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:22:00 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8NM0521519 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:22:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.123]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021108232340.GPFT3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:23:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC4711.CD1AD67E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 17:21:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research References: <3DCC4506.CFCF1C71@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Never mind. I found the figures. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:33:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8NXIwA005852 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:33:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040ED969@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:32:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3472367 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:32:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:y2RiW1WivuAteDEejtbrphoPC1MUT/JM@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8NMk521634 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:22:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5502FE6D for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 70E167C29; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:22:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCC45D5.E0B323D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 8, 2002 5:16:37 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:22:45 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108232245.70E167C29@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > We haven't discussed the chicken yet. I'm glad we didn't have to see > > > the actual wringing. I thought Whatshername, the older woman, showed > > > great strength in holding onto the headless (or at least neck-broken) > > > fluttering chicken. I wonder, though, whether its grave really needed a > > > cross. > > > > I find this behavior *very* odd. > > Which part? I don't find burying the animals odd, but I do find it > somehow amusing to assume they're Christians. I think I said that a > while back re Buddy's grave at Furrbabies. I found her eagerness to grab the head and feet and bury them offputting. Burying dead animals makes sense, but she's too...weird about it. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:33:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8NXXwA005855 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:33:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00443810@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:33:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3472373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:33:02 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HF6tqBeaGNCG7eLIjOjwRfm6uk2Ibzvy@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8NN2521664 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:23:02 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D762FE6D for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:23:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3BF497C2B; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:23:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: <3DCC4711.CD1AD67E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 8, 2002 5:21:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 15:23:00 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021108232301.3BF497C2B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Never mind. I found the figures. And? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 17:55:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA8Nt0wA005949 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 17:55:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044394E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:54:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3473362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:54:28 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA8NsS524305 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:54:28 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:54:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC4F33.E8AB38CE@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:56:35 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Elwood References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > I'm trying once more. I haven't received any mail from anyone in days. > When I try to send any, it is returned as unknown, because it is send to ME > instead of words-l. Replying seems to be the only way I can get through. > Sobbing, Theo I've written you a private test message, Theo. Hope you get it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:08:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA908KwA006021 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:08:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00443A17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:07:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3473874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:07:48 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA907m525482 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:07:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:07:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC5252.877D7487@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:09:54 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: The prescription Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And so, I got the prescription out of the bag, only to find that it has an unopenable cap. I pushed and turned as instructed, but got nowhere. I began to think that fate did not want me to take these pills, but I got my hammer and pounded the - - - - out of the plastic bottle. Finally got the plastic to crack a little, then stuck a screwdriver into that crack and gouged a piece out of the side of the vial, just large enough for a pill to come out. The cap is still intact. This is a ridiculous way to treat old women. Mad as hell in G'town From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:20:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90KSwA006094 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:20:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00443AD2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3474506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:56 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90Js526900 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:54 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-212.panax.com [63.163.41.212]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90Jrt28491 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:19:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108191840.00a014e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:19:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCC45D5.E0B323D@maynor.net> References: <20021108200605.4206C7C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I don't find burying the animals odd, but I do find it >somehow amusing to assume they're Christians. I think I said that a >while back re Buddy's grave at Furrbabies. > -- Natalie Do you put a cross on a grave because you think the buried is Christian or because you want Jesus to protect the furry little body? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:20:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90KwwA006097 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:20:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00443ADA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3474530 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:20:27 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90KQ526977 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:20:26 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-212.panax.com [63.163.41.212]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90KPt28608 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:20:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108191948.00a01e80@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:20:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Research In-Reply-To: <3DCC4711.CD1AD67E@maynor.net> References: <3DCC4506.CFCF1C71@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Never mind. I found the figures. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And was the accusation true? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:23:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90NdwA006126 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:23:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00443AFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:23:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3474270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:23:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+XGZe443l92y8REk4L3SWLALf1oV7NJ1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90D6526347 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:13:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4CC2FE7C for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F22927C29; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:13:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The prescription In-Reply-To: <3DCC5252.877D7487@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 8, 2002 7: 9:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:13:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109001305.F22927C29@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > And so, I got the prescription out of the bag, only to find that it has > an unopenable cap. I pushed and turned as instructed, but got nowhere. I > began to think that fate did not want me to take these pills, but I got > my hammer and pounded the - - - - out of the plastic bottle. Finally got > the plastic to crack a little, then stuck a screwdriver into that crack > and gouged a piece out of the side of the vial, just large enough for a > pill to come out. The cap is still intact. This is a ridiculous way to > treat old women. Yep. Especially sick old women. > Mad as hell in G'town Don't blame you. I think you can ask them to put a notation in your file that you should get nonchildproof caps. In any case, I'd definitely phone them and ask them how to avoid this in the future. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:27:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90RmwA006140 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:27:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EDBC9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:27:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3474734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:27:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90RF527561 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:27:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-17.panax.com [63.163.41.17]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90RDt30284 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:27:13 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108192426.00b53b10@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:27:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The prescription In-Reply-To: <20021109001305.F22927C29@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DCC5252.877D7487@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:13 PM 11/8/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >alyce cresap said: > > And so, I got the prescription out of the bag, only to find that it has > > an unopenable cap. I pushed and turned as instructed, but got nowhere. > >.... >Don't blame you. I think you can ask them to put a notation in your >file that you should get nonchildproof caps. In any case, I'd >definitely phone them and ask them how to avoid this in the future. Our local pharmacy packages prescription drugs in plastic vials that have a two-way cap---placed on the vial one way, the cap is user-friendly; the other way, it is childproof. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:31:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90VtwA006177 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:31:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EDC00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:31:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3474576 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:31:23 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hiSfYK9X7Nx/L6yCsp2GLwjHwBVQGUfc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90LM527076 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:21:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440712FEC0 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A6A27C1D; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:21:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108191840.00a014e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 8, 2002 7:19:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:21:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109002122.0A6A27C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >I don't find burying the animals odd, but I do find it > >somehow amusing to assume they're Christians. I think I said that a > >while back re Buddy's grave at Furrbabies. > > -- Natalie > > Do you put a cross on a grave because you think the buried is Christian or > because you want Jesus to protect the furry little body? I would put a cross on a grave as a marker. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:34:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90YhwA006190 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:34:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00443BA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:34:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3475051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:34:11 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90YB528203 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:34:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.68]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109003551.YXZC282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:35:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC57F9.768BD4B2@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:34:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20021108232245.70E167C29@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I found her eagerness to grab the head and feet and bury them > offputting. Burying dead animals makes sense, but she's too...weird > about it. I think I agree. I'm not a big one on burials of any kind (except obviously for the health reasons, as in not just dumping carcasses around any old place). Unlike Antigone, I don't think there are any particular reasons for burying a body. Or of visiting graves, for that matter -- although my genealogical stuff has made me interested in visiting cemeteries and I have in fact found myself feeling like having conversations with the dead. But my spiritual self makes me believe that those conversations don't have to be beside their graves. But if I were one of the survivor people in that kind of setting, my idea of what I'm big on might change. Still, though, I think that behavior was moderately flaky. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:36:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90aDwA006197 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:36:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00443BBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:35:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3475094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:35:40 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90Ze528315 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:35:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.68]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109003720.YZIG282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:37:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC5855.F7F8DAC0@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:35:33 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research References: <20021108232301.3BF497C2B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > Never mind. I found the figures. > > And? They were adjusted downward. I think that's not unusual, though. I think there are frequent adjustments in economic figures, regardless of administration and without necessarily involving nefarious motives. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:43:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90hOwA006240 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:43:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00443C2A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:42:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3475263 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:42:52 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90gq528799 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:42:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.184]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109004432.ZFTS282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:44:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC5A02.5BFB638E@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:42:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The prescription References: <3DCC5252.877D7487@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > This is a ridiculous way to > treat old women. I agree. I am of course all for doing what we can to protect young children in every way, including trying to find ways to prevent them from poisoning themselves. But sometimes when struggling with caps of various kinds, I do wonder about the default. I wonder why there aren't special bottles of medicines or cleaners or whatevers for homes with small children. Yes, I see the problem, which is why I have not taken on the cause of protesting: Some ignorant parents might not buy the child-proof choice, and some innocent child might die as a result. I do, however, appreciate very much that companies like Bayer sell bottles that say "Not childproof" -- i.e., the top will come off without need of a sledgehammer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 18:44:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA90iawA006247 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:44:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00443C37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:44:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3475299 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:44:04 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA90i4528881 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:44:04 -0500 Received: from rwcrwbc57 ([204.127.198.46]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021108201409.JTUN25494.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:14:09 +0000 Received: from [4.36.57.222] by rwcrwbc57; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:14:01 +0000 From: alfieri@attbi.com To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:14:01 +0000 X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Nov 5 2002) X-Authenticated-Sender: YWxmaWVyaUBhdHRiaS5jb20= Message-Id: <20021108201409.JTUN25494.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't think the Dems are dead. They suffered a huge kick in the head but I don't think they're dead. Not so long ago the Dems were the popular party. Remember when Papa Bush lost the Oval Office? It's take the Republicans this long to gather themselves, work out a winning strategy, implement it and bask in the results. The Democrats were pathetic. They did absolutely nothing to make people want to vote for them. Over the past couple of days I've grown tired of the Republicans being sore losers. It wasn't a fair fight at all. How can you brag about winning a battle when your opponent showed off ready for a bake off rather than a brawl? My guess is, the biggest factor gauging the success of the Republicans =is not the economic issues that got them elected but what happens in relation to Iraq. lisa > Tuesday was such a bummer to fans of gridlock. I've been > predicting the death of the Democratic party for so long - > since I dunno, 1988 ? - 'twas interesting to see it finally > happen. Wonder how much money Dubya will raise between now > and Nov 2004. > > -rashmi From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 19:31:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA91VmwA006583 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:31:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00443ED7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:31:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3476560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:31:15 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA91VF532327 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:31:15 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:31:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC65DF.EBC09038@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:33:19 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The prescription References: <3DCC5252.877D7487@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021108192426.00b53b10@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > Our local pharmacy packages prescription drugs in plastic vials that have a > two-way cap---placed on the vial one way, the cap is user-friendly; the > other way, it is childproof. Yes, I've had those. They are good. Never saw one like the one today. It is formidable. alyce > > cwv -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 19:35:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA91Z6wA006598 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:35:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00443F00@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:34:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3476719 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:34:33 -0500 Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA91YX532623 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:34:33 -0500 Received: from sdn-ap-004neomahp0277.dialsprint.net ([63.186.33.23]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18AKW7-0005Ey-00 for WORDS-L@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 17:34:32 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.3 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:35:13 -0700 Subject: Where's my mail? From: Theodora Groothof To: "English Language Discussion Group " Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm not getting much mail; hasn't there been much? Find this hard to believe, You haven't unsubscribed me, have you? Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 19:39:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA91dUwA006611 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:39:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00443F33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:38:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3476858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:38:58 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA91cw500522 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:38:58 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC67AF.CD8664C8@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:41:03 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's my mail? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > I'm not getting much mail; hasn't there been much? Find this hard to > believe, You haven't unsubscribed me, have you? Theo Well, you are coming through. You did not answer my test message to you off-list, but it has not bounced. Maybe you should check with Earthlink? alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 19:55:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA91tIwA006672 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:55:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EDE8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:54:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3477094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:54:01 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA91s1501376 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:54:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.142.24a803e (3866) for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:53:50 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <142.24a803e.2afdc4ae@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:53:50 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] The prescription To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/08/2002 6:23:20 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Don't blame you. I think you can ask them to put a notation in your file that you should get nonchildproof caps. >> Yep. Before Dad got Alzheimer's, he had the drug store give him pills in nonchildproof caps because of his arthritis. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:16:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92GQwA006776 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:16:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004440E7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:15:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3477695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:15:53 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92Fr503051 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:15:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.34]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109021733.XRH3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:17:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC6FCE.4DBC3737@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:15:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: need an exorcist References: <20021108201409.JTUN25494.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lisa Alfieri wrote: > > I don't think the Dems are dead. They suffered a huge kick in the head but I > don't think they're dead. A political scientist in my lunch bunch said a couple of days ago that the election results aren't really very notable -- that the idea of Dubya's claiming them as a great victory just doesn't work in this case. He said that the reason midterm elections usually show a loss for the party in the WH is that usually the Pres won by a solid majority two years earlier and that he swept in some senators and reps with him. Two years later, fewer people vote, some congresspeople retire, and the result is likely to go in opposition to the pres's party. But in 2000 the pres didn't win by a solid majority, in fact by not a majority at all, and didn't sweep people in with him. So these midterm elections aren't typical. > Not so long ago the Dems were the popular party. Remember when Papa Bush lost > the Oval Office? It's take the Republicans this long to gather themselves, work > out a winning strategy, implement it and bask in the results. They didn't have to think very hard to work out a winning strategy. It was 9/11 that did it. Whichever party was in the WH at that time would have reaped the political bounty. > The Democrats were pathetic. I agree, and I am feeling happy at the thought that Nancy Pelosi may become a leader. Sure, it's true that a more left Democratic Party will lose the centrist votes. And that, of course, means perhaps losing elections. Obviously I could never be a political candidate (for many reasons). My idealism just doesn't like the idea of trying to woo people to vote for you by catering to whatever you think their beliefs are. I'm tired of mealy-mouthed Democrats who might as well be Republicans. I want a party that I feel strongly in synch with. Although I don't know every vote or stance Pelosi has ever taken or every word she's ever said, what I know about her sounds like my kind of Democrat. Like Wellstone, bless his soul. > My guess is, the biggest factor gauging the success of the Republicans =is not > the economic issues that got them elected but what happens in relation to Iraq. What economic issues got them elected?? The wealthy of course (IN GENERAL, JMW) voted Republican because the rich like to get richer -- i.e., the rich like those tax breaks for the rich. But lots and lots of non-rich people voted Republican. The economy was one thing on the side of the Democrats in this election. (An economist said in my lunch group yesterday that he was amused when people tried to tie the current state of the economy to current or past administration/congress -- that the economy was going to do its thing regardless of parties and politics.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:21:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92L7wA006793 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:21:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EDF7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3477915 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92KY503560 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:20:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.34]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109022214.BBQJ3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:22:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC70EB.1097F24F@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:20:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20021108200605.4206C7C3B@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021108191840.00a014e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Do you put a cross on a grave because you think the buried is Christian or > because you want Jesus to protect the furry little body? Interesting question. I think I'd tend toward not wanting to put a religious symbol of a particular kind on a grave of somebody I thought might not be of that religion. Like what if some other religion's god was cruising around looking at graves and didn't take your soul because somebody had put the wrong symbol on it? You will, of course, ask how that would be any different from no symbol at all, but surely gods are wise enough to find graves and thus souls -- and the unmarked ones (as in unreligiously marked) would catch the eye of the gods as worthy of further examination. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:21:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92LRwA006797 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:21:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EDF84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:20:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3477934 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:20:54 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92Ks503590 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:20:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.34]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109022234.BBWX3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:22:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC70FF.D7A2B603@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:20:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research References: <3DCC4506.CFCF1C71@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021108191948.00a01e80@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >Never mind. I found the figures. > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > And was the accusation true? Yes. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:23:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92NrwA006803 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:23:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00444140@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:23:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3477986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:23:20 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92NJ503774 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:23:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.34]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109022459.BDVY3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:24:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC7190.49E3EE22@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:23:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20021109002122.0A6A27C1D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I would put a cross on a grave as a marker. I wouldn't. I would use something else if I wanted to mark a grave. The crosses on Buddy's grave at Furrbabies were temporary, btw. They were mainly for the funeral, which Spencer attended, and were still there when I went to pick up Spencer a few days after Buddy's death. But the idea is that those dog graves will go back to nature, unmarked. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:25:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92PqwA006815 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:25:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044415C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:25:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478080 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:25:20 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92PJ503936 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:25:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.34]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109022659.BFPF3311.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:26:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC7208.318CF1E3@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:25:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's my mail? References: <3DCC67AF.CD8664C8@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Well, you are coming through. You did not answer my test message to you > off-list, but it has not bounced. Maybe you should check with Earthlink? I've tried a direct test message also, and it hasn't bounced. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:35:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92ZuwA006856 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:35:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004441E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:35:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:35:23 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:va/UvszRmhsDTi0zvFW+CGvYKEa2eUu5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92PN503942 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:25:23 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E636E2FD83 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B6B4E7C36; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:25:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCC7190.49E3EE22@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 8, 2002 8:23:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 18:25:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109022522.B6B4E7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > I would put a cross on a grave as a marker. > > I wouldn't. I would use something else if I wanted to mark a grave. I can't think of anything else that says unequivocally "This is a grave". > But the idea is that those dog graves will go back to nature, unmarked. Well, that's actually what I'd do with a buried animal. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:45:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92jZwA006907 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:45:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EE05A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:45:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:45:02 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92j2505578 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:45:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.163]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109024642.OLL7225.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:46:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC76A4.6ABAF34B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 20:44:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20021109022522.B6B4E7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > I would put a cross on a grave as a marker. > > > > I wouldn't. I would use something else if I wanted to mark a grave. > > I can't think of anything else that says unequivocally "This is a grave". I don't think that a cross says unequivocally "This is a grave." Crosses along the sides of highways, for example, say to me, "This is where somebody died in a wreck," not "This is where somebody is buried." My strong hunch is that the dead people are buried elsewhere. As for what else would mark something unequivocally as a grave, I'd say that a tombstone would, whether a professional one or a home-made one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:46:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92kxwA006923 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:46:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00444272@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478712 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92kQ505682 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:46:26 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021109024620.ROEB20487.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 02:46:20 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021108182410.02678170@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 18:46:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: need an exorcist In-Reply-To: <3DCC6FCE.4DBC3737@maynor.net> References: <20021108201409.JTUN25494.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@rwcrwbc57> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >But lots and lots of non-rich people voted Republican. I posted an essay on my blog that made sense to me -- people were basically voting for denial of the present uncomfortable world and in wish fulfillment of a "future" which is really the past past, and that "with all the election magic, it would be possible for the U.S. government and its same photogenic administration to make-believe these troubles away, as just mere opinions of radical troublemakers. And, with continued efforts to politicize every sector of the government, including the CIA, FBI, NEA, and others, it can make 'the facts' speak for themselves, with a little help from the Presidential pen, for edits and censorship, so as to match the reality that is desired...." Bush, the make-believe President. The economy's wonderful, we have a mandate from the people, democracy by those with Bush, for those with Bush, terrorism will be gone when we kill the bad bogeyman Osam^H^H^H^H Saddam, etc. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 20:50:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA92owwA006935 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:50:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004442BA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:50:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3478549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:50:25 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA92eP505189 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:40:25 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA92eNPd001151 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:40:23 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:40:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCC70EB.1097F24F@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Interesting question. I think I'd tend toward not wanting to put a >religious symbol of a particular kind on a grave of somebody I thought >might not be of that religion. Like what if some other religion's god >was cruising around looking at graves and didn't take your soul because There is some evidence that there is only one. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 21:12:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA93CjwA007057 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:12:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004443F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3479649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:12:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe12.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA93CC507699 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:12:12 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 19:12:06 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.246.62.3] From: "Anne Toal" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DCC5252.877D7487@valstar.net> Subject: Re: The prescription Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:12:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Nov 2002 03:12:06.0631 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8AECF70:01C2879D] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You need to ask for a prescription for anger management. -aht ----- Original Message ----- From: "alyce cresap" To: Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: The prescription > And so, I got the prescription out of the bag, only to find that it has > an unopenable cap. I pushed and turned as instructed, but got nowhere. I > began to think that fate did not want me to take these pills, but I got > my hammer and pounded the - - - - out of the plastic bottle. Finally got > the plastic to crack a little, then stuck a screwdriver into that crack > and gouged a piece out of the side of the vial, just large enough for a > pill to come out. The cap is still intact. This is a ridiculous way to > treat old women. > > Mad as hell in G'town > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 22:05:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9459wA007334 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:05:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00444654@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 23:04:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3481120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 23:04:35 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA944Z511812 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 23:04:35 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust56.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.58]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 23:04:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCC89CF.629568EE@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 23:06:39 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The prescription References: <3DCC5252.877D7487@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anne Toal wrote: > > You need to ask for a prescription for anger management. > Well, the nurse would forget to phone it in, and then the drugstore wouldn't be able to find it, and then I wouldn't be able to open it, so I think I will pass. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 8 23:29:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA95TAwA007764 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 23:29:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EF1C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 0:28:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3490860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 00:28:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:A8bmZQeQjOT36s4XuTXeh5ZEt22rYzJc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA95SZ520108 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 00:28:35 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C782FDF5 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [198.144.202.195]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709052B60C for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:28:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 02:41:39PM -0600 <5.1.0.14.0.20021107080109.009fae40@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Moment-Of-Dada: Right now a huge winged gargoyle named Zog is sitting in the middle of the hearth X-Clyde-Voigtlander: If it weren't for the subversives therein, no bureaucracy would ever work X-Lucinda-Williams: Once you accept your limitations, they become strengths Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 21:28:29 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Bookrat Subject: Re: Winona Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 1:03 PM -0800 11/8/02, steph wrote: >Well, what's really interesting is that he was the only one. >There's lots of people developing. Why was he the only one with >any interest in clean clear version control and smooth code >merges? Our new building will have 27 network closets serving up to 3000 ports on God knows how many VLANs. And yet, I still get blank looks from my fellow IT staff whenever I mention the need for some sort of change management system. The fact is that this sort of stuff is not sexy. For the rank and file, it does not bring promotion; for management, it does not bring additional funding to the department. And fundamentally, it's just not interesting. It's housekeeping. It's administrivia. Let the secretaries take care of it, is the attitude of both the hotshots and the pluggers. Ken Miller Systems Annalist Babbage Engine Works From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 01:53:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA97r4wA012462 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 01:53:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044561F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 2:52:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3495604 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 02:52:29 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA97qS530462 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 02:52:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 23701 invoked by uid 417); 9 Nov 2002 07:52:28 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 9 Nov 2002 07:52:28 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.135]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 00:52:26 -0700 Message-ID: <00fa01c287c5$acf13070$87cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: HOWTO encourage women in Linux Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:14:25 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MA> So RED, how do you feel about women? Haven't really given it a thought,just get along with them well,usually do... Red From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 01:53:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA97r8wA012465 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 01:53:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00445621@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 2:52:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3495608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 02:52:33 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gA97qW530467 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 02:52:32 -0500 Received: (qmail 23878 invoked by uid 417); 9 Nov 2002 07:52:31 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 9 Nov 2002 07:52:31 -0000 Received: from redbox ([203.192.207.135]) (AUTH: LOGIN mandar-TComp@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 00:52:28 -0700 Message-ID: <00fb01c287c5$aedd4900$87cfc0cb@redbox> From: "Red" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DCBCC96.8B51CAA9@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: HOWTO encourage women in Linux Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:16:08 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU AC> Presumably Rush Limbaugh does not air in Red's neighborhood. Red, Rush > Limbaugh is a very right-wing (and to my mind, despicable) radio > personality. The word you like is his coinage. My liking the word has nothing to do RL,just like the word..and no,he does not air in my neighbourhood,fortunately.. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 07:34:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9DYRwA014009 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:34:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EFDE2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 8:33:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3499870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:33:49 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9DXn518355 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:33:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-38.panax.com [63.163.41.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9DXWt17353 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:33:33 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109083018.00b330a0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:33:28 -0500 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: more evidence of the Americanization of Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This news item was posted to another list: "http://espn.go.com/minorlh/news/2002/1107/1457437.html" TORONTO -- A Canadian father is suing the New Brunswick Amateur Hockey Association after his 16-year-old son failed to win the league's most valuable player award. Michael Croteau is seeking about $200,000 in psychological and punitive damages from the association. He also demands that the MVP trophy be taken from the winner and given to his son, Steven. Croteau told the Globe and Mail newspaper in a story published Thursday that Steven was the New Brunswick Bantam AAA leading scorer, which made him the most valuable player. He said the youth was so crushed when another player won the award at a banquet in March that he lost his desire to play. The league's nine coaches or managers select the most valuable player, and voting results are not disclosed. Steven had a league-leading 45 goals and 42 assists in 27 games, while the boy named most valuable player finished fourth in league scoring with 21 goals and 39 assists. "How do you justify that?'' Croteau said in the Globe and Mail. "It's quite obvious he's the most valuable forward in the league.'' Brian Whitehead, the New Brunswick Amateur Hockey Association executive director, confirmed the lawsuit was filed but declined to discuss details. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 07:36:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9DarwA014019 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:36:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004467E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 8:36:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3499905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:36:15 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9DaF518516 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:36:15 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust67.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.69]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:36:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD0FC5.260DB338@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:38:13 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: parallel universe-more Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Yet another Bibliomania/Words-L crossover. It's too spooky. "Now as far as rugby and aussie football.. we have a bet. I think footie in aussie is the same as american soccer is in england and scotland he thinks it's the same as rugby. Who is right please?" -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 07:37:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9DbSwA014022 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:37:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004467EC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 8:36:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3499923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:36:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Dao518549 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:36:50 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-38.panax.com [63.163.41.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Damt17916 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:36:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109083435.00b38a50@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:35:48 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: References: <3DCC70EB.1097F24F@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:40 PM 11/8/2002 -0500, you wrote: >On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >Interesting question. I think I'd tend toward not wanting to put a > >religious symbol of a particular kind on a grave of somebody I thought > >might not be of that religion. Like what if some other religion's god > >was cruising around looking at graves and didn't take your soul because > >There is some evidence that there is only one. > >Bethany I am surprised that someone professing to be a lawyer cannot distinguish between evidence and belief. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 07:41:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9DfOwA014036 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:41:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00446823@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 8:40:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3499976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:40:46 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Dek518763 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:40:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.132]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109134226.OTVZ1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:42:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD1057.CA9EFBA3@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 07:40:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Interesting question. I think I'd tend toward not wanting to put a > >religious symbol of a particular kind on a grave of somebody I thought > >might not be of that religion. Like what if some other religion's god > >was cruising around looking at graves and didn't take your soul because > > There is some evidence that there is only one. Cite, please. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 07:53:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9Dr0wA014099 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:53:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040EFE36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 8:52:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:52:18 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9DqI519473 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:52:18 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust67.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.69]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:52:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD1389.77F94ACD@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:54:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: THeo asks... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She did receive my private test message, but wonders if she is properly s*bscribed to Words-L. I'm guessing that she is, or she would not get occasional messages to which she can reply. She says: "S*bscribing was one of the first things I did, But something was weird there too. I received the confirmation request, and send it, but I guess it was never received... Could you please ask the listmom if she can help? Thanks, Theo" -- Can someone help her or does anyone have any ideas so that Theo can send (original) mail here, and not just reply to others? alyce alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 07:55:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9DtiwA014106 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:55:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004468E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 8:55:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500185 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:55:06 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Dt6519598 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:55:06 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust67.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.69]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:55:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD1430.72ABA4A9@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:57:04 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3DCC70EB.1097F24F@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021109083435.00b38a50@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > > > I am surprised that someone professing to be a lawyer cannot distinguish > between evidence and belief. I was just about to ask about that. I'm guessing that the majority of the world's population hase not seen this evidence. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 07:57:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9DvGwA014116 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 07:57:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004468F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 8:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500087 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:56:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Dkd519108 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:46:39 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9DkcPd018689; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:46:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:46:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCD1057.CA9EFBA3@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> There is some evidence that there is only one. > >Cite, please. The biblio is much too long to post here - it consists of some entire libraries. What I am thinking of primarily is the near-universal belief and experience of members of many world religions that there is ONE - whatever his/her/its name. As I said, there is SOME evidence - I did not say that it is dispositive. Perhaps you will cite evidence that there are several - or many? Is that your experience? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 08:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9E18wA014146 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:01:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044692A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 9:00:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500325 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:00:31 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9E0U519991 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:00:30 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust67.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.69]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD1575.AF76CFEC@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 09:02:29 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Perhaps you will cite evidence that there are several - or many? Is that > your experience? There is no evidence to cite on either side, obviously. And that explains why, after all these hundreds of years, people still are willing to take up arms in the name of the god(s) in whom they have chosen to believe (or not). Were there conclusive evidence, the world would be a much quieter place. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 08:04:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9E40wA014159 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:04:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044695F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 9:03:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500405 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:03:22 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9E3M520217 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:03:22 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust67.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.69]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:03:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD1620.C26BC1B2@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 09:05:20 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <3DCD1575.AF76CFEC@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Perhaps you will cite evidence that there are several - or many? Is that > > your experience? > This reminds me of a story the archaeologist told me. When he was a young boy, he went out in a fishing boat near Mykonos. A terrible storm came up, and people began to pray for deliverance. But the storm did not abate. Suddenly, a very old man screamed out, "Poseidon, save us," and within moments, the sea became calm. True story. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 08:30:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9EUowA014262 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:30:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00446AD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 9:30:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:30:12 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9EUB521949 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:30:11 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-43.panax.com [65.114.190.43]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9EUAt26857 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:30:10 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109092922.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 09:29:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: gods In-Reply-To: <3DCD1620.C26BC1B2@valstar.net> References: <3DCD1575.AF76CFEC@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >people began to pray for deliverance. But the storm did not >abate. Suddenly, a very old man screamed out, "Poseidon, save us," and >within moments, the sea became calm. True story. >alyce Ah, the old gods are the best gods. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 08:39:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9EdawA014353 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:39:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00446B42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 9:38:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:38:58 -0500 Received: from imf23bis.bellsouth.net (mail223.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.193]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ecv522547 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:38:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.37]) by imf23bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109144037.DUBS3370.imf23bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:40:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD1DFB.FC6845EB@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:38:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> There is some evidence that there is only one. > > > >Cite, please. > > The biblio is much too long to post here - it consists of some entire > libraries. What I am thinking of primarily is the near-universal > belief and experience of members of many world religions that there is > ONE - whatever his/her/its name. As I said, there is SOME evidence - I did > not say that it is dispositive. > > Perhaps you will cite evidence that there are several - or many? Is that > your experience? Well, I can cite the same kind of you mention above -- a very long biblio. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 08:41:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9Ef7wA014364 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:41:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00446B58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 9:40:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3500989 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:40:30 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9EeT522660 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:40:29 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust53.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.55]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:40:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD1ED2.5020F379@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 09:42:26 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: gods References: <3DCD1575.AF76CFEC@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021109092922.009faec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > > Ah, the old gods are the best gods. The archaeologist always swore "by all the gods," too, although he was baptised as a Greek Orthodox person. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 08:56:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9EuNwA014461 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:56:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00446C24@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 9:55:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3501438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:55:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Etj523816 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:55:45 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-38.panax.com [63.163.41.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Etht31003 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:55:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109095431.00b3abc0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 09:55:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCD1DFB.FC6845EB@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:38 AM 11/9/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > >> There is some evidence that there is only one. > > > > > >Cite, please. > > > > The biblio is much too long to post here - it consists of some entire > > libraries. What I am thinking of primarily is the near-universal > > belief and experience of members of many world religions that there is > > ONE - whatever his/her/its name. As I said, there is SOME evidence - I did > > not say that it is dispositive. > > > > Perhaps you will cite evidence that there are several - or many? Is that > > your experience? > >Well, I can cite the same kind of you mention above -- a very >long biblio. It appears that in both cases, what might be cited is evidence of belief, evidence of existence. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 08:58:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9EwmwA014476 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:58:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00446C4E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 9:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3501505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:58:11 -0500 Received: from rowlf.cinergycom.net (rowlf.cinergycom.net [216.135.3.9]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9EwA523976 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:58:10 -0500 Received: from webnobody by rowlf.cinergycom.net with local (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18AX3n-0000Ex-00 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:58:07 -0600 From: amy.short@murraystate.edu To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers Message-Id: Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 08:58:07 -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This The Paducah Sun (http://www.paducahsun.com/) story has been sent to you from amy.short@murraystate.edu Message from sender: Yes, it's front-page news around here! AS ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers By Jimmy Nesbitt The Paducah Sun http://www.paducahsun.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi?/200211/09+0bZq_news.html+20021109 ----------------- >From either perspective, it's a split-second decision made on instinct. A deer approaches a roadway; cross or wait? A motorist spots the animal; brake, swerve or strike? A mistake by either party can prove fatal. If you're the motorist, this is the advice of David Yancy, a senior wildlife biologist with the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife: "Try not to be aggressively evasive. A fair number of fatalities are not caused because the deer goes through the windshield; it's because the person tries to avoid the deer and strikes a tree or veers into oncoming traffic. Don't make a sharp cut. You're better off hitting the deer. "If you see one, be alert. There are often more." As deer breeding peaks and hunting season with guns begins today across the state, Yancy said the number of deer-vehicle accidents rises at this time every year. "Early to mid-November is the worst time," Yancy said. "Even if there was no hunting in late October, it would still be the worst time. That's the peak of their breeding activity." There's more bad news for motorists. The state's deer population is up about 12 percent, to 850,000, from the same time last year. "If it's higher, we try to make the regulations more liberal to bring up the number of doe kills," he said. "The public's tolerance is less than the hunters'. The hunters love to see all the deer." Yancy said fish and wildlife officers recorded about 4,000 deer-vehicle collisions statewide last year. "Deer-vehicle accidents have been stable for quite some time," he said. "The frequency does not seem to be changing." Many deer-vehicle collisions are not reported, because people fear their insurance premiums may rise, he said. Elizabeth Mosely, a spokeswoman for the Insurance Information Institute, said the average deer-vehicle collision causes $2,000 in damage. "Some can go as high as $8,000," she said. "It really just depends on how you hit the deer and what type of vehicle you're driving." Within the state, the institute recorded 4,161 deer-vehicle collision claims in 1999 and 4,000 in 2001. Like Yancy, Mosely said October through November is the peak period. "Hunting and mating season cause a high level of activity," she said. "The combination causes them to go places where they normally wouldn't." The constant migration of people into the wilderness also drives deer into the roadways, she said. According to the National Safety Council, there were 520,000 animal-related accidents last year, up from 490,000 in 2000. These accidents also resulted in more than 100 deaths and 4,000 injuries. The insurance industry reports more business, as well. "Deer claims are 21 percent higher in 2001 as compared to 1998, and deer claim severity has increased about 5 percent per year during the past three years for our company," said Eugene Connell, a senior vice president and division officer for the Erie Insurance Group in Erie, Pa. State police records show there were 292 deer-vehicle collisions resulting in 45 injuries in 2000, and 288 collisions resulting in 32 injuries in 2001. In every deer-vehicle collision, the motorist has the option of keeping the deer, state police Trooper Barry Meadows said. If the driver defers, police call the state road department, or "People will hear on the scanner that a deer has been hit, and they'll call us and want it," he said. The state's deer population grew significantly in the mid-1980s, Yancy said. To combat the boost, the fish and wildlife department went to a two-tag permit system in 1988, which was meant to raise the number of does killed. By 1991 the number of deer-vehicle accidents dropped, he said. Today the most concentrated areas are from Christian and Caldwell counties westward, from Hardin County northward and the northeastern part of the state, Yancy said. If your vehicle strikes a deer, it's best to not touch the animal. The frightened animal, in attempting to move, could hurt you or itself. The best procedure is to get your car off the road, if possible, and call the police. Colliding with a deer or animals is covered under the comprehensive portion of most automobile policies, so it's a good idea to report any vehicle damage to your insurance agent. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 09:34:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9FYiwA014667 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:34:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00446E50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3502320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9FY6526648 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5B003JXF8TTZ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 09:34:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 09:35:21 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: THeo asks... To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCD2B39.7030008@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DCD1389.77F94ACD@valstar.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > received... Could you please ask the listmom if she can help? Thanks, > Theo" Oh my god. Listmom. That's priceless. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 09:42:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9FgTwA014685 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 09:42:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00446EC9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:41:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3502417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:41:51 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ffp527050 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:41:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust106.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.108]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:41:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD2D32.C170222A@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 10:43:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: THeo asks... References: <3DCD1389.77F94ACD@valstar.net> <3DCD2B39.7030008@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: >> Oh my god. Listmom. That's priceless. Maybe so, although I've heard the term on here before. Anyway, give Theo a break. Can someone help her, please? Words-L is one of her few amusements. Have a heart. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 10:31:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9GVYwA014909 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:31:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00447132@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:30:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3503357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:30:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1iSYYEyHRkCKU0rZcfdwapdINm4LCMOJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9GKt529984 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:20:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF942FDBF for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 433247C3D; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:20:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: THeo asks... In-Reply-To: <3DCD2D32.C170222A@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 9, 2002 10:43:46 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 08:20:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109162054.433247C3D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >> Oh my god. Listmom. That's priceless. > > Maybe so, although I've heard the term on here before. Anyway, give Theo > a break. Can someone help her, please? > Words-L is one of her few amusements. Have a heart. Words-L helps them who help themselves. The problem seems to be with her provider. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 10:45:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9GjlwA014975 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 10:45:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044720B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:45:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:45:08 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Gj8532433 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:45:08 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Gj8T10533 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:45:08 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.102]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gA9Givv27601 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: <005a01c2880f$57565d80$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "Wordslurs" Subject: UN Resolution... Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:44:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU wow - I never thought Syria would get on board, but Debka says they've been experiencing civil unrest; beltway construction had uncorked anti-gonvernment protests south east of Damascus. I wonder how the resolution will be popularly accepted in Damascus. 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 11:04:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9H46wA015048 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:04:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044730F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:03:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:03:27 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9H3R501396 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:03:27 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA16528 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:03:26 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3F80638699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:03:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:03:21 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor Message-ID: <20021109170321.GA26729@pobox.com> References: <3DCD1057.CA9EFBA3@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:46:38AM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > > >> There is some evidence that there is only one. > > > >Cite, please. > > The biblio is much too long to post here - it consists of some entire > libraries. What I am thinking of primarily is the near-universal > belief and experience of members of many world religions that there > is ONE - whatever his/her/its name. I disagree about the universality. It's a nice cozy feeeling to think there is, but mostly it is enforced by a coercive religion and has a pretty weak grip. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 11:11:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9HBWwA015077 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:11:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044736E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:10:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:10:53 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9HAq502097 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:10:53 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.97]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 12:13:34 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: cell phone directory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is the way for someone to make millions. The numbers change too frequently for a print version, but wouldn't an Internet one be fine? It has to come. Soon regular phones will be defunct. I wish I knew how to do this so that I could become Really Rich. Speaking of RR, I just learned that my sister and b-i-l, who are RRR. attended a party to meet George and Laura last week. Must have been similar to Natalie's brother's party. I don't know how much they paid, but it probably was substantial. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 11:45:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9Hj1wA015230 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:45:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00447538@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:44:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505654 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:44:22 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9HiM504637 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:44:22 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA29454 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:44:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A6BB238699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:44:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:44:21 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory Message-ID: <20021109174421.GA28921@pobox.com> References: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 12:13:34PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > This is the way for someone to make millions. The numbers change too > frequently for a print version, but wouldn't an Internet one be fine? It would be great. > It has to come. Soon regular phones will be defunct. Just like snail mail, har har har ... > I wish I knew how to do this so that I could become Really Rich. Well, first you have to be Really Rich. Otherwise, all you can do is set up a wimpy site where people voluntarily publish their numbers. Then you will have to set up 600 disclaimers saying it's not official. Or, you could go to the phone company and say you can tap into their proprietary systems and publish numbers to the net. In which case they will sit down and have a good laugh, sick their less-employed lawyers on you, and set up the system in their own good time. Just in case you thought that the obvious demand for something magically generates a supply ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 12:12:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9IClwA015315 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:12:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00447759@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:11:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3506333 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:11:58 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9IBw506471 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:11:58 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:11:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD5084.44606F31@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 13:14:28 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory References: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> <20021109174421.GA28921@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > Well, first you have to be Really Rich. Spoil sport. (Is that one word?) alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 12:25:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9IPjwA015373 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:25:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F0687@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:25:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3506666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:25:05 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9IP5507510 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:25:05 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA13152 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:25:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7502238699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:25:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:25:03 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory Message-ID: <20021109182503.GA3451@pobox.com> References: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> <20021109174421.GA28921@pobox.com> <3DCD5084.44606F31@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCD5084.44606F31@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 01:14:28PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > Well, first you have to be Really Rich. > > Spoil sport. (Is that one word?) The point is moot--the domain "spoilsport" is taken ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 13:08:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9J8IwA015591 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:08:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00447B54@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:07:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3507755 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:07:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ivb510512 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:57:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9IvbPd009582 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:57:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:57:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <3DCC16F2.54C95841@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >I bought a beautiful little zucchini, perfect in all respects, which I >will steam and cover with butter tonight. Yes, yes, I know this is not a >universal taste, but I do love it. After I had left the produce Me too. Sounds like a great expedition. Yesterday, I went out to PF for the first time since my knee surgery. Today, I went out again - to feed and groom Maria. I was pretty tired by the time I left, and my right knee was announcing that it needed a rest. I wanted vegetables, but did not want to wander through a large store - not even Fresh Market. So I drove home via a route that has some produce stands. Voila - a new one! I was able to shop, taking only a few steps - I too ended up with zucchini and a sweet potato - also yellow squash and one green pepper, all very reasonably priced. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 13:24:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9JONwA015660 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:24:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00447C73@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:23:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3508554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:23:43 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9JNh512661 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:23:43 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:23:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD615D.43B81231@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 14:26:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I too ended up with zucchini and a sweet potato Copycat. Glad you are able to be out and about more each day. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 13:37:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9JbcwA015708 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:37:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00447D5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:36:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3508860 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:36:59 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Jaw513492 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:36:58 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA9JcNT28926 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:38:23 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:38:23 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers Message-ID: <20021109203823.A28912@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU on Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:58:07AM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = As deer breeding peaks and hunting season with guns begins today ^^^^^^^^^ I like the fact that they chose to make this distinction. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 13:47:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9JlcwA015751 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:47:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00447E18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:46:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:46:58 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Jkw514081 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:46:58 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA9JmNX28947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:48:23 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:48:23 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory Message-ID: <20021109204823.B28912@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> <20021109174421.GA28921@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021109174421.GA28921@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:44:21AM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:44:21AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 12:13:34PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: = > This is the way for someone to make millions. The numbers change too = > frequently for a print version, but wouldn't an Internet one be fine? = = It would be great. = There is no one I want to call who won't give me their number. Who cares. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 13:52:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9Jq2wA015762 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:52:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F0993@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:51:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3508946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:51:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tCGmHj+rrUVPwhQ/MInaYAaEmWF3e0HX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9JfL513744 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:41:21 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369272FE1C for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C60357C3C; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:41:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers In-Reply-To: <20021109203823.A28912@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 9, 2002 8:38:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:41:20 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109194120.C60357C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie said: > = As deer breeding peaks and hunting season with guns begins today > ^^^^^^^^^ > > I like the fact that they chose to make this distinction. There's probably also a bow-hunting season. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 13:56:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9JukwA015777 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 13:56:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00447EC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:56:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:56:06 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ju6514769 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:56:06 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.97]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD68F4.9741A321@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 14:58:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory References: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> <20021109174421.GA28921@pobox.com> <20021109204823.B28912@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie wrote: > > There is no one I want to call who won't give me their number. > Who cares. Perhaps I am not clever enough to memorize all of the numbers, nor do I always have an address book in my pocket. I do not carry a purse. A reason I would like a directory, for example, is that Ken got a cell phone while he was in CA. He called to tell me the number, which I wrote on the only thing handy (I was in bed), which was the Kleenex(TM) box. I forgot that the number was on the box and I threw it away when it was empty. Couldn't call Ken when I wanted to, and he was waiting to hear from me. Solution? A directory! Yes! alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 14:09:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9K9cwA015848 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:09:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00447FAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:08:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509481 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:08:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:39AhpHHDYYPIptZlPkIjydVYsC4aKKHd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Jwv514958 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:58:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D3B2FE33 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C04AE7C3D; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:58:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: cell phone directory In-Reply-To: <3DCD68F4.9741A321@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 9, 2002 2:58:44 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 11:58:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109195856.C04AE7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Perhaps I am not clever enough to memorize all of the numbers, nor do I > always have an address book in my pocket. I keep them all in my cell phone. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 14:17:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9KHTwA015899 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:17:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044802D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:16:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:16:49 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9K6n515579 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:06:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9K6lPd002685; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:06:47 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:06:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Memories Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have attended only one bowl game. I was in New Orleans in 1986 when underdog UT beat Miami 35-7. What a day! Friends and I drove to NO the day before. On game day, we had an early diner at Commander's Palace, one of my favorite restaurants in the world (we strolled about the Garden District a bit first - and met Archie Manning by accident). Then we went to THE GAME! From the start, it was clear that we were in the game. Most UT fans stood almost the entire game. That night, looking down on Bourbon St. from a hotel balcony, I had the experience of realizing that I knew almost every person I could see below - they were all from Knoxville! It was very hard to find anyone from Miami in the French Quarter that night. The drive back the next day was fun, too - lots of orange flags etc. on most vehicles. I don't think today will go quite like that ... but of course I could be wrong. At worst, though, the series will be 1-1. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 14:21:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9KLMwA015930 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:21:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448079@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:20:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509856 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:20:42 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9KKg516342 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:20:42 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:20:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 15:23:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory References: <20021109195856.C04AE7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I keep them all in my cell phone. Handy, if one has a cell phone. And if you take it to bed with you. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 14:22:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9KMtwA015938 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:22:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448093@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:22:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:22:14 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9KME516430 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:22:14 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:22:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD6F16.F8A613B4@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 15:24:54 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I have attended only one bowl game. I went to the Rose Bowl in 1959 (I think). Wisconsin (my sister's alma mater) lost. Can't remember who they played. Do you know that there are no bathrooms in that stadium? They have portapotties and you have to leave the stadium, get your hand stamped, and come back in. Insanity. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 14:29:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9KTJwA015966 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:29:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F0A7E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:28:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:28:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Rr6sBFYnE9bs3akhb5m0guJXrxR5X341@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9KIc516219 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:18:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DCFF2FE57 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2C34D7C3B; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:18:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 9, 2002 3: 6:47 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:18:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109201838.2C34D7C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > I have attended only one bowl game. I was in New Orleans in 1986 when > underdog UT beat Miami 35-7. What a day! Friends and I drove to NO the day > before. On game day, we had an early diner at Commander's Palace, one of > my favorite restaurants in the world (we strolled about the Garden > District a bit first - and met Archie Manning by accident). Then we went > to THE GAME! From the start, it was clear that we were in the game. Most > UT fans stood almost the entire game. > > That night, looking down on Bourbon St. from a hotel balcony, I had the > experience of realizing that I knew almost every person I could see below > - they were all from Knoxville! It was very hard to find anyone from > Miami in the French Quarter that night. > > The drive back the next day was fun, too - lots of orange flags etc. on > most vehicles. > > I don't think today will go quite like that ... but of course I could be > wrong. At worst, though, the series will be 1-1. What are you talking about? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 14:34:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9KYuwA016005 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:34:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00448183@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:34:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3510205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:34:15 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9KYF517465 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:34:15 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA23152 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:34:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D2C2338699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:34:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:34:14 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory Message-ID: <20021109203414.GB9214@pobox.com> References: <20021109195856.C04AE7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The "real" solution would be to put your own phone book on your own server, overlaid on a public directory. Too bad the difficulties are so formidable. And people are so deaf ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 14:35:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9KZYwA016009 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:35:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448192@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:34:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:34:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:t1n5C/0vuWRLFiy2ttDyNMhBocSUku1v@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9KOs516648 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:24:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3052FE7F for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C34417C41; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:24:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCD6F16.F8A613B4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 9, 2002 3:24:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 12:24:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109202453.C34417C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Do you know that there are > no bathrooms in that stadium? They have portapotties and you have to > leave the stadium, get your hand stamped, and come back in. Insanity. That's what Yale's stadium is like, too, but it's very old. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 15:02:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9L2xwA016146 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:02:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F0C06@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:02:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3510958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:02:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9KqJ519140 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:52:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9KqHPd021450 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:52:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:52:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCD6F16.F8A613B4@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >I went to the Rose Bowl in 1959 (I think). Wisconsin (my sister's alma >mater) lost. Can't remember who they played. Do you know that there are >no bathrooms in that stadium? They have portapotties and you have to >leave the stadium, get your hand stamped, and come back in. Insanity. Wow! Sounds worse than nonopenable prescription containers! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 15:03:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9L3QwA016154 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:03:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004483B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:02:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3511000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:02:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Kqk519238 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:52:46 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9KqjPd021698 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:52:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:52:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <20021109201838.2C34D7C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >What are you talking about? football Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 15:25:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9LP8wA016240 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:25:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448525@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:24:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3511819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:24:27 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9LOQ521326 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:24:26 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA9LPq629181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:25:52 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:25:52 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers Message-ID: <20021109222552.A29178@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021109203823.A28912@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021109194120.C60357C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021109194120.C60357C3C@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:41:20AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:41:20AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: = stevie said: = > = As deer breeding peaks and hunting season with guns begins today = > ^^^^^^^^^ = > = > I like the fact that they chose to make this distinction. = = There's probably also a bow-hunting season. I know. I still like the distinction. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 15:32:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9LWVwA016279 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:32:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044859F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:31:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3511967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:31:50 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9LVo521800 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:31:50 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gA9LXGr29197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:33:16 +0100 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:33:16 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory Message-ID: <20021109223316.B29178@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021109195856.C04AE7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net>; from alybooks@VALSTAR.NET on Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 03:23:21PM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 03:23:21PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: = Karen Kay wrote: = > = > I keep them all in my cell phone. = = Handy, if one has a cell phone. And if you take it to bed with you. Get with it Aly! When someone gives you their number, it's important. You need to write it down someplace important. Either that, or they will call back. Even I am sort of behind with this. When someone calls me from their work mobile, I by default have their number in my mobile's memory. I keep forgetting this when I need to call them back. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 16:11:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9MBowA016430 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:11:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044893A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:11:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513518 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:11:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7gQvALtLWqbGguyncBt8UvtiKapCbTYT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9M19524264 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:01:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A908A2FEB8 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7F9967C32; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:01:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 9, 2002 3:52:45 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:01:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109220108.7F9967C32@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >What are you talking about? > > football What about it? Is UT playing today? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 16:12:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9MCpwA016435 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:12:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448951@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:12:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513725 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:12:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XVyjXzaYIOBJQLSpzNLkF9tN5hpslzoi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9M29524423 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:02:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CEA2FECF for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0F77E7C3C; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:02:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: cell phone directory In-Reply-To: <20021109223316.B29178@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 9, 2002 10:33:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 14:02:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109220209.0F77E7C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie said: > Even I am sort of behind with this. When someone calls me from > their work mobile, I by default have their number in my > mobile's memory. I don't think that my phone does this. But it may do it and I don't know that it does it. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 16:19:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9MJNwA016479 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:19:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004489D3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:18:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:18:42 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9M8g524806 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:08:42 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9M8ePd017425; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:08:41 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:08:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: a different take from NIGERIA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Did anyone else get this: Calvary greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am former Mrs Fatima Aisha Alamin, now Mrs Elizabeth Alamin, a widow to Late Sheik Mohammed Alamin, I am 72years old, I am now a new Christian convert, suffering from long time cancer of the breast. From all indications, my condition is really deteriorating and is quite obvious that I may not live more than six months, because the cancer stage has gotten to a very severe stage. [blah blah blah] Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 16:23:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9MNYwA016498 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:23:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00448A28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:22:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3514284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:22:53 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9MMr525894 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:22:53 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5B00C09Y648O@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 16:22:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 16:24:08 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: THeo asks... To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCD8B08.1090508@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DCD1389.77F94ACD@valstar.net> <3DCD2B39.7030008@swbell.net> <3DCD2D32.C170222A@valstar.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > >>> Oh my god. Listmom. That's priceless. >>> > > Maybe so, although I've heard the term on here before. Anyway, give Theo > a break. Can someone help her, please? > Words-L is one of her few amusements. Have a heart. > It sounds like the problem is on her end or with her provider (but probably she has some settings not quite right). In any case, I could try to help her, but she'd just insult me and ignore me. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 16:30:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9MUUwA016538 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:30:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00448AB2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:29:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3514458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:29:49 -0500 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (IDENT:mirapoint@msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9MTn526276 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:29:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (213-78-117-165.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.117.165]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AMQ28051; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:27:40 GMT Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:29:58 +0000 Subject: Re: parallel universe-more Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v482) From: Roy Jaques To: English Language Discussion Group Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3DCD0FC5.260DB338@valstar.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.482) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Saturday, November 9, 2002, at 01:38 , alyce cresap wrote: > Yet another Bibliomania/Words-L crossover. It's too spooky. > > "Now as far as rugby and aussie football.. we have a bet. I think footie > in aussie is the same as american soccer is in england and scotland he > thinks it's the same as rugby. Who is right please?" > -- footie in Australia is Australian Rules Football. footie in England is football (what you lot insist in calling soccer) and it is probably football in Scotland, could Anne ask Graham ? > alyce > Roy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 16:46:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9MkRwA016614 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:46:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F10AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:45:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3514782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:45:41 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Mjf527309 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:45:41 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-38.panax.com [63.163.41.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Mjdt11104 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:45:39 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109174244.00b5ae00@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:45:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: cell phone directory In-Reply-To: <20021109223316.B29178@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> <20021109195856.C04AE7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:33 PM 11/9/2002 +0100, stevie wrote: >Get with it Aly! When someone gives you their number, it's >important. Where is it written (other than by you) that simply because some other entity provides a telephone number that it is important? That entity providing the number could easily be the world's biggest idiot, simply wanting to jabber in your ear (or sell you something, or get you to donate to some cause). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 16:54:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9MsNwA016645 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:54:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00448C75@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:53:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3515032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:53:42 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Mrg527827 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:53:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.243]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109225524.YWPU1184.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:55:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD91F0.1CEB734@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 16:53:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109095431.00b3abc0@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > >Well, I can cite the same kind of you mention above -- a very > >long biblio. > > It appears that in both cases, what might be cited is evidence of belief, > evidence of existence. I assumed that my < > showed that I don't consider that evidence. I was looking for a citation for something that shows real evidence, not something that shows belief. I'm read lots of things about beliefs. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:05:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9N50wA016708 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:05:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F11F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:04:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3515675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:04:19 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9N4J528693 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:04:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.39]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109230601.HSRB7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:06:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD946A.80453460@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:04:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory References: <3DCD423E.184C15E6@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > This is the way for someone to make millions. The numbers change too > frequently for a print version, but wouldn't an Internet one be fine? I'm ughing in thinking about the telemarketers. > Soon regular phones will be defunct. I dunno. I really dislike using a cell phone. The only reason I still have mine is the thought that I might be traveling some and find it important to be reachable as long as Mama is alive. When she's no longer alive, I can't think of any reason I'd want a cell phone. > Speaking of RR, I just learned that my sister and b-i-l, who are RRR. > attended a party to meet George and Laura last week. Must have been > similar to Natalie's brother's party. I don't know how much they paid, > but it probably was substantial. I bet my RRSIL is totally engrossed in the Alabama governor situation right now. Betcha she's spending all her time in strategizing about ways to make the Republican the winner. I haven't checked the news yet today (other than reading the Starkville Daily News, which is mainly local), so I don't know the latest on what's happening in Alabama. I do think it sounds quite strange, though, that that county apparently recounted the votes after the vote-count-watchers had gone home and that the alleged machine glitch affected only the gov total, not the total of any of the other races on the ballot. If that's true. And now a diary note for Alec: I am happy to report that I cut the grass this morning and have declared the cutting season over. This afternoon I did house-cleaning, plus visiting Mama of course. And now the dryer buzzer has just buzzed, so I need to go take the clothes out. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:20:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NKkwA016776 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:20:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1265@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:20:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516001 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:20:05 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NK5529608 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:20:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.65]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109232147.CVKS20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:21:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD981C.68966735@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:19:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers References: <20021109203823.A28912@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie wrote: > > = > = As deer breeding peaks and hunting season with guns begins today > ^^^^^^^^^ > I like the fact that they chose to make this distinction. Presumably it would mean as opposed to bow season. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:23:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NNJwA016791 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:23:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00448E64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:22:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516041 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:22:38 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NMc529723 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:22:38 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust12.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.14]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:22:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD995C.C0F3DDE3@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:25:16 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Did anyone else get this: > No. You got it because you are a Christian, probably. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:26:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NQWwA016807 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:26:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448E94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:25:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:25:50 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NPo529875 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:25:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.65]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109232732.CYCM20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD9978.EC9D1D17@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:25:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021109201838.2C34D7C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > What are you talking about? Football. I must admit that I'd almost forgotten about football this year. Even the locally loyal Starkville Daily News has less and less to say on the subject each week, and I've been ignoring it since about the second week of the season. I do know that we were supposedly playing Alabama today. Some things just fall into your vision at times, even if you're not interested. I assume we got stomped. I'm guessing something like 48-0. Our so-called fb team this year is a sad joke. But we're supposed to be decent in basketball. Where's Bradykins? I need to alert him to the fact that I will follow basketball this year -- or at least for as long as we're not the basketball joke we usually are -- I am one of little confidence in predictions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:28:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NS7wA016811 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:28:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448EAD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:27:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516130 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:27:26 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NRQ529991 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:27:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.65]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109232907.CYUY20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:29:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD99D7.A3950B47@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:27:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <3DCD6F16.F8A613B4@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > no bathrooms in that stadium? They have portapotties and you have to > leave the stadium, get your hand stamped, and come back in. Insanity. Why do Karen's replies always precede the originals? Or maybe it's not always. But often. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:30:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NU3wA016839 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:30:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F129A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:29:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516175 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:29:21 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NTL530093 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:29:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.65]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109233103.CZQF20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:31:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD9A4B.B6CD3C4F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:29:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021109220108.7F9967C32@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > >What are you talking about? > > > > football > > What about it? Is UT playing today? Didn't her posting say something about "today"? That would lead one to believe that she meant today. Or at least that's how I interpreted it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:31:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NVCwA016843 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:31:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00448EE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:30:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516199 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:30:31 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NUV530188 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:30:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.65]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021109233211.DAGV20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:32:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD9A8F.752A3FD9@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:30:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Did anyone else get this: > > Calvary greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am former Mrs Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:37:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NbpwA016860 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:37:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00448F32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:37:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:37:10 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NbA530638 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:37:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust12.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.14]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:37:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCD9CC3.8691D347@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:39:47 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <3DCD6F16.F8A613B4@valstar.net> <3DCD99D7.A3950B47@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Why do Karen's replies always precede the originals? Or maybe it's not > always. But often. They do for me, too. Don't know why. Perhaps Karen has ESP and knows what people have written before they sent it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:39:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NdDwA016867 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:39:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00448F45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:38:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Ar6nKPluzZi8lOhSXC8FMe2M4zTKfSgv@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NSW530045 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:28:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103FF2FE4C for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D3D687C32; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:28:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCD99D7.A3950B47@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 5:27:19 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:28:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109232831.D3D687C32@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > alyce cresap wrote: > > no bathrooms in that stadium? They have portapotties and you have to > > leave the stadium, get your hand stamped, and come back in. Insanity. > > Why do Karen's replies always precede the originals? Or maybe it's not > always. But often. Because my ISP is in an earlier time zone than Alyce's? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:39:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NdZwA016873 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:39:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00448F4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:38:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:38:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NSr530058 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:28:53 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9NSrPd011087 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:28:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:28:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <20021109220108.7F9967C32@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> >What are you talking about? >> >> football > >What about it? Is UT playing today? As I said: "I don't think today will go quite like that ... but of course I could be wrong. At worst, though, the series will be 1-1." I was not wrong. It's 26-3 Miami at the beginning of the 4th. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:41:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NfpwA016888 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:41:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F12EA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:41:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:41:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jjPY9zn9erZ5Er6uyP+ZGfXjvJGoj52y@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NVA530243 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:31:10 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC1A2FDCC for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:31:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 782927C3B; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:31:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCD9A4B.B6CD3C4F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 5:29:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:31:09 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109233109.782927C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > >What are you talking about? > > > > > > football > > > > What about it? Is UT playing today? > > Didn't her posting say something about "today"? That would lead one to > believe that she meant today. Or at least that's how I interpreted it. I thought it was early for bowl games. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:42:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NghwA016891 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:42:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F12F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:01 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ng1530948 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:01 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5C1Q501.701 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:39:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCD9D0A.58423D4B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 16:40:59 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers References: <20021109194120.C60357C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > stevie said: > > = As deer breeding peaks and hunting season with guns begins today > > ^^^^^^^^^ > > > > I like the fact that they chose to make this distinction. > > There's probably also a bow-hunting season. And handgun, and muzzle-loading, most likely. As I've said before, despite thirty years of my trying, my grandmother got more deer with her Buick than I ever did in the field. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:42:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NgrwA016894 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:42:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00448F70@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:11 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NWB530297 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:32:11 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9NWBPd012123; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:32:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:32:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCD9A8F.752A3FD9@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Did anyone else get this: >> >> Calvary greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am former Mrs > >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. Well, that would probably let me out - the one I talk about is trinitarian. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:44:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NiDwA016902 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:44:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00448F80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:43:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:43:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NXV530365 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:33:31 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9NXUPd012570 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:33:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:33:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCD91F0.1CEB734@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I assumed that my < > showed that I don't consider that evidence. I was >looking for a citation for something that shows real evidence, not >something that shows belief. I'm read lots of things about beliefs. Much as I like you, I am very glad that you are not on SCOTUS, Natalie. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:45:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NjDwA016927 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:45:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1303@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:44:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:44:31 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NiV531107 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:44:31 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5C1UB00.101 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:42:11 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCD9DA1.BFC00AAB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 16:43:29 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Marie's handwriting... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ...is most legible. Thank you, Red! You were right, " all will become clear." JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:50:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NoKwA016954 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:50:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00448FDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:49:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:49:38 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:TNH+/vftqU/KeHtOT2+3vb5GBzqB90RB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ndb530746 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:39:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FFC2FE42 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 349B17C43; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:39:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 9, 2002 6:28:53 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:39:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109233937.349B17C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> >What are you talking about? > >> > >> football > > > >What about it? Is UT playing today? > > As I said: "I don't think today will go quite like that ... but of course > I could be wrong. At worst, though, the series will be 1-1." > > I was not wrong. It's 26-3 Miami at the beginning of the 4th. What do you mean by 'series'? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:53:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NrSwA016971 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:53:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00449019@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:52:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:52:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ngj530995 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9NgjPd015633 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:42:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <20021109233109.782927C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> Didn't her posting say something about "today"? That would lead one to >> believe that she meant today. Or at least that's how I interpreted it. > >I thought it was early for bowl games. Tushar, help her! Please! Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:53:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9NrgwA016976 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:53:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044901D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:01 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Nr0531636 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:00 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust12.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.14]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA07A.27A50D11@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:55:38 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021109233109.782927C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I thought it was early for bowl games. It is. There was no bowl game. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 17:55:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gA9Nt3wA016982 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:55:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449033@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:54:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516549 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:54:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:iZmsmTNTm8fX+lQxq39A5tJAoNi+ry+x@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9NiL531091 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:44:21 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E6030071 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CABAF7C36; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:44:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers In-Reply-To: <3DCD9D0A.58423D4B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 9, 2002 4:40:59 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:44:20 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109234420.CABAF7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > And handgun, and muzzle-loading, most likely. A handgun deer season?! I don't want to be in the woods those days. > As I've said before, despite thirty years of my trying, my grandmother > got more deer with her Buick than I ever did in the field. How many did she get? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:02:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA02JwA017021 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:02:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F135C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:01:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:01:38 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Npc531522 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:51:38 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9NpbPd018680 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:51:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:51:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <20021109233937.349B17C43@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >What do you mean by 'series'? 1986 TN 35 Miami 7 2002 Miami 26 (right now) TN 3 (right now) Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:03:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA03BwA017025 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:03:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004490CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:02:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:02:27 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA02P532192 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:02:25 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-111.panax.com [63.163.41.111]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA02Kt22486 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:02:21 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109190102.00a044d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:02:01 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCD9A8F.752A3FD9@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Did anyone else get this: > > Calvary greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am former Mrs > >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I didn't get it. I never get any spam, except what comes to words-l. I am utterly and entirely grateful to my ISP and it's evident spam filter. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:06:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA06WwA017034 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:06:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1373@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:05:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516944 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:05:50 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA05o532398 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:05:50 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.191]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110000732.DQUF16114.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:07:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA2D6.D7CCB320@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:05:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021109232831.D3D687C32@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Why do Karen's replies always precede the originals? Or maybe it's not > > always. But often. > > Because my ISP is in an earlier time zone than Alyce's? I don't think so. Time zones aren't a factor in my usual receipt of mail. It's only yours that jump ahead slightly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:06:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA06ZwA017037 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:06:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1374@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:05:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516782 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:05:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jFvk9Ks/OGgtwlvSUCk5ks8pOGWcgaa0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Ntr531792 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:55:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E943430079 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B17047C3A; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDA07A.27A50D11@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 9, 2002 6:55:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109235552.B17047C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I thought it was early for bowl games. > > It is. There was no bowl game. Oh, I thought Bethany's post was about a bowl game. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:08:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA08OwA017042 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:08:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00449126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:07:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516797 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:07:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Nvh531882 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:57:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA9NvfPd020776 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:57:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:57:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers In-Reply-To: <20021109234420.CABAF7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >How many did she get? Is Karen writing a novel? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:09:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA09NwA017048 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:09:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449136@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:08:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:08:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HTSwrmPiik9QS+KKAV749MGDfdDDr3Pa@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gA9Nwe531945 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:58:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691DA3007C for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3B5077C32; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:58:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCD9CC3.8691D347@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 9, 2002 6:39:47 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 15:58:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021109235840.3B5077C32@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > They do for me, too. Don't know why. Perhaps Karen has ESP and knows > what people have written before they sent it. Sometimes I do, but not so's I can quote it. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:10:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0A8wA017051 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:10:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449147@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:09:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:09:26 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA09Q532623 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:09:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.191]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110001108.DSLE16114.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA3B0.54596A29@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:09:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021109233109.782927C3B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > What about it? Is UT playing today? > > > > Didn't her posting say something about "today"? That would lead one to > > believe that she meant today. Or at least that's how I interpreted it. > > I thought it was early for bowl games. And people find my reactions mutant? Your response is worthy of discussion in my SLA course, where we've been talking lately about the conventions of discourse. Bethany's description of a particular UT victory that happened to be a bowl game doesn't mean that the discourse is tied to bowl games. It might be instead about victories or lack thereof. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:11:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0B5wA017056 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:11:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449156@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:10:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517038 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:10:23 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0AN532703 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:10:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.191]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110001205.DSVK16114.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA3E9.C994FC74@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:10:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. > > Well, that would probably let me out - the one I talk about is > trinitarian. Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of there being only one god. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:11:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0BawA017061 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:11:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044915F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:10:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:10:55 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0At532721 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:10:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.191]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110001237.DTAG16114.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA409.1DFECB0E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:10:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Much as I like you, I am very glad that you are not on SCOTUS, Natalie. What's SCOTUS? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:12:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0CxwA017068 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:12:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449174@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:17 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0CH500359 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.191]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110001359.DTQJ16114.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA45B.A69DC89D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:12:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021109233937.349B17C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > What do you mean by 'series'? The times two particular teams have played each other. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:13:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0DCwA017072 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:13:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00449179@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wy4lUlwgtySUwoheweoeyhh9p7v59EaP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA02U532199 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:02:30 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB2530080 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:02:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CB9FD7C32; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:02:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 9, 2002 6:51:37 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:02:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110000229.CB9FD7C32@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >What do you mean by 'series'? > > 1986 TN 35 Miami 7 > 2002 Miami 26 (right now) TN 3 (right now) Ah. I've never heard games so far apart referred to as a series. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:13:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0DwwA017076 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:13:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1397@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:13:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:13:16 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0DG500451 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:13:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.191]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110001458.DUAV16114.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:14:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA496.9342CA9B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:13:10 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers References: <20021109194120.C60357C3C@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCD9D0A.58423D4B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > stevie said: > > > = As deer breeding peaks and hunting season with guns begins today > > > ^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > I like the fact that they chose to make this distinction. > > > > There's probably also a bow-hunting season. > > And handgun, and muzzle-loading, most likely. But I think those probably count as guns, don't they? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:14:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0EFwA017079 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:14:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044918F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:13:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516911 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:13:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rUyyFy6EVw4rwG/+tknWjCEGKlZoCRVO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA03X532273 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:03:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F07D30083 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4B6437C3C; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:03:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109190102.00a044d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 9, 2002 7: 2: 1 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:03:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110000332.4B6437C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I didn't get it. I never get any spam, except what comes to words-l. I > am utterly and entirely grateful to my ISP and it's evident spam filter. I've never seen a spam filter that effective that didn't take a lot of my other real e-mail with it. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:16:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0GEwA017111 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:16:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004491B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:15:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:15:32 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0FW500588 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:15:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.191]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110001714.DVEA16114.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:17:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDA51E.33E36372@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:15:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110000229.CB9FD7C32@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > 1986 TN 35 Miami 7 > > 2002 Miami 26 (right now) TN 3 (right now) > > Ah. I've never heard games so far apart referred to as a series. Afaik, "series" is the standard term in sports life for referring to meetings between two teams, regardless of how many and how far apart. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:18:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0IlwA017122 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:18:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F13B2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:18:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516982 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:18:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3fBdifFRtqAzmze5nyNkoHQ6MO8mdsSN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA085532537 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:08:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A0C2FDED for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0605A7C31; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:08:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDA2D6.D7CCB320@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 6: 5:42 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:08:04 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110000804.0605A7C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Why do Karen's replies always precede the originals? Or maybe it's not > > > always. But often. > > > > Because my ISP is in an earlier time zone than Alyce's? > > I don't think so. Time zones aren't a factor in my usual receipt of > mail. It's only yours that jump ahead slightly. Then I guess I'm just special. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:19:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0JbwA017126 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:19:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004491ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:18:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:18:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:48pi0r9R0J9uLlq3+b6Rrslcu757aqn6@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA08s532582 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:08:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4327A2FDED for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 142B77C3A; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:08:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 9, 2002 6:57:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:08:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110000854.142B77C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > >How many did she get? > > Is Karen writing a novel? Not as far as I know. Why? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:22:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0MtwA017132 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:22:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449228@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:22:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:22:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Icp86APzveT6rk4Ad3sLaFMW4IRi1pkV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0CC500354 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:12:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE392FE47 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 09C6B7C3A; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:12:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCDA409.1DFECB0E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 6:10:49 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:12:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110001212.09C6B7C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > Much as I like you, I am very glad that you are not on SCOTUS, Natalie. > > What's SCOTUS? Supreme Court (otus--like POTUS is President otus) Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:24:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0OwwA017151 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:24:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044924E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:24:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:24:17 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0OG501261 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:24:16 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.42]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5C3OL02.I0R for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:21:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCDA6F2.AA77977@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:23:14 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers References: <20021109234420.CABAF7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > As I've said before, despite thirty years of my trying, my grandmother > > got more deer with her Buick than I ever did in the field. > > How many did she get? Three. Me? None. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:31:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0V3wA017196 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:31:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1414@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:30:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:30:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JCgN27K3QtvIjikNmmMDmrMZZo7yQMbP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0KM500889 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:20:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0E830074 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:20:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 52B987C3D; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:20:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDA51E.33E36372@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 6:15:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:20:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110002021.52B987C3D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > 1986 TN 35 Miami 7 > > > 2002 Miami 26 (right now) TN 3 (right now) > > > > Ah. I've never heard games so far apart referred to as a series. > > Afaik, "series" is the standard term in sports life for referring to > meetings between two teams, regardless of how many and how far apart. M-W has the usage I'm used to: "9 : a number of games (as of baseball) played usually on consecutive days between two teams ". AHD is more forgiving: " 8a. Sports A number of games played by the same two teams, often in succession." Hm. Onelook.com has a sports dictionary, but it just says "the group of 4 downs a team has to advance 10 yards." Anyway, I don't see anything indicating that 15+ years is a normal interval for a series. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:36:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0a6wA017219 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:36:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449319@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:35:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:35:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+21c7Bi97jV1gxRy/vLI7tLb7/Sa7NLW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0PO501345 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:25:24 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790682FE64 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4DFBB7C3D; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:25:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers In-Reply-To: <3DCDA6F2.AA77977@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 9, 2002 5:23:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:25:23 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110002523.4DFBB7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > As I've said before, despite thirty years of my trying, my grandmother > > > got more deer with her Buick than I ever did in the field. > > > > How many did she get? > > Three. Me? None. At least she didn't get one a year.:) But three is quite a lot! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:45:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0jqwA017270 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:45:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004493C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:45:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517922 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:45:10 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0jA502672 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:45:10 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0jAT01678 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:45:10 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gAA0hsv16159 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:43:54 -0500 Message-ID: <005701c28852$3fd848b0$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021110002523.4DFBB7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:43:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 'Sheeit... Ter got 2 in one month alone (October) back in '89 when she was "out" for them... ;-) 'No kiddin'. You might even remember the Wordslur drivel... 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Kay" To: Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers > John Williams said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > As I've said before, despite thirty years of my trying, my grandmother > > > > got more deer with her Buick than I ever did in the field. > > > > > > How many did she get? > > > > Three. Me? None. > > At least she didn't get one a year.:) But three is quite a lot! > > Karen > "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:48:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0mjwA017285 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:48:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004493FC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:48:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:48:03 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0m3502866 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:48:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.59]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110004945.EJCK20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDACBD.33F53477@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:47:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: <20021110000332.4B6437C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I've never seen a spam filter that effective that didn't take a lot of > my other real e-mail with it. I'm getting more and more upset by that problem -- of spam filters of the unsettable kind (as in the individual can't make choices). It's inconvenient that I can't send e-mail to my uncle from this address (unless I change the outgoing mail server, of course), and it's tiresome that I'm having to forward mail from my uncle to somebody in California who can send him mail without its being blocked but can't receive mail from him. Spammers are the world's worst scum. Who in the world responds to them, thus stoking their fires?? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:48:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0mtwA017288 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:48:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1499@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:48:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:48:13 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0cC502168 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:38:12 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA0cBPd001338 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:38:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:38:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDA3E9.C994FC74@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. >> >> Well, that would probably let me out - the one I talk about is >> trinitarian. > >Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of >there being only one god. I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:50:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0oVwA017295 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:50:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449416@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:49:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:49:46 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0dk502325 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:39:46 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA0diPd001902 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:39:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:39:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <20021110000229.CB9FD7C32@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> >What do you mean by 'series'? >> >> 1986 TN 35 Miami 7 >> 2002 Miami 26 (right now) TN 3 (right now) > >Ah. I've never heard games so far apart referred to as a series. Karen, the just became a series this year - I think we play again next year. Before this year, we had meet only in the bowl game. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:51:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0pcwA017302 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:51:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449426@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:50:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3517866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:50:56 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0eu502405 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:40:56 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA0esPd002267 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:40:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:40:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers In-Reply-To: <20021110000854.142B77C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: >> Is Karen writing a novel? > >Not as far as I know. Why? It seems to me that you are asking for a lot of information today. But I've been floating in and out, so maybe it's my imagination. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:51:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0pgwA017305 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:51:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00449428@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:50:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:50:59 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0ox503086 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:50:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.59]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110005241.EKJA20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:52:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDAD6D.F58BA2DF@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:50:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers References: <20021110000854.142B77C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Is Karen writing a novel? > > Not as far as I know. Why? I liked that a novelist called Click and Clack this morning while I was on my way to the p.o. (note for literalists: the call no doubt didn't happen this morning while I was on my way to the p.o.), asking them about how fast a certain kind of car in 1925 could travel between a couple of different places in somewhere like Illinois. It's a novel about college sorority sisters. Something to do with the mafia father of one of them, I think. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:52:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0qgwA017312 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:52:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00449436@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:52:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:52:00 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0q0503155 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:52:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.59]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110005342.EKYG20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:53:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDADAA.F5B63D48@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:51:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor References: <20021110001212.09C6B7C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > Much as I like you, I am very glad that you are not on SCOTUS, Natalie. > > > > What's SCOTUS? > > Supreme Court (otus--like POTUS is President otus) I wish I remembered the context of Bethany's statement. Wasn't it something about gods? I'm trying to think of the Supreme Court connection. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:53:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0rjwA017317 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449443@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:53:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:53:02 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0r2503248 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:53:02 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA07702 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:02 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C2C9038699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:53:01 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers Message-ID: <20021110005301.GB11289@pobox.com> References: <20021110000854.142B77C3A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCDAD6D.F58BA2DF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCDAD6D.F58BA2DF@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 06:50:53PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > It's a novel about college sorority sisters. Something to do with > the mafia father of one of them, I think. Deliver me Jesus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:55:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0t5wA017333 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:55:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449456@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:54:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518152 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:54:23 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0sN503297 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:54:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.59]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110005605.EMBW20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDAE39.ECFFB04B@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:54:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110002021.52B987C3D@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Anyway, I don't see anything indicating that 15+ years is a normal > interval for a series. Did anybody say it was a normal interval? I'd say it's not the norm at all. But it happens. If team X played team Y in 1900 and then for the next time in 2002, it would still be called a series -- but far from a typical one. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:57:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0vrwA017352 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:57:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449471@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:57:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:57:11 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0vB503428 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:57:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.59]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110005853.ENHO20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:58:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDAEE1.D6091852@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:57:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. > >> > >> Well, that would probably let me out - the one I talk about is > >> trinitarian. > > > >Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of > >there being only one god. > > I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. So saying there's "one god" isn't the same as saying there's "a single god"? Interesting. And what's the you refer to? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 18:59:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA0xJwA017363 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:59:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449481@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:58:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518189 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:58:37 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0wa503490 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:58:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.59]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110010018.ENZE20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDAF36.F5E69CA7@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 18:58:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers References: <20021110000854.142B77C3A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCDAD6D.F58BA2DF@maynor.net> <20021110005301.GB11289@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 06:50:53PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > It's a novel about college sorority sisters. Something to do with > > the mafia father of one of them, I think. > > Deliver me Jesus She wouldn't tell Click and Clack her working title. But she's written sixty-five pages. She's worried about how long it should take them to drive from X to Y, though, and thus called upon C&C for the answer. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:02:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA12ZwA017395 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:02:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F14F7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:01:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518119 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:01:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:n1btaFbhNLp5PXKGejoDtVz83p3nMeSW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0pr503149 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:51:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D005A30089 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9FEB97C3A; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:51:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 9, 2002 7:40:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:51:52 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110005152.9FEB97C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > >> Is Karen writing a novel? > > > >Not as far as I know. Why? > > It seems to me that you are asking for a lot of information today. But > I've been floating in and out, so maybe it's my imagination. Or I've been remiss in recent days. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:03:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA13NwA017399 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:03:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004494B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:02:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:02:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:vp7Diaod3y8BSz2YM+Vh8bhwTiCfPm8X@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0qf503222 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:52:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23FA30089 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BC6D57C31; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:52:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCDADAA.F5B63D48@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 6:51:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:52:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110005240.BC6D57C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > Much as I like you, I am very glad that you are not on SCOTUS, Natalie. > > > > > > What's SCOTUS? > > > > Supreme Court (otus--like POTUS is President otus) > > I wish I remembered the context of Bethany's statement. Wasn't it > something about gods? I'm trying to think of the Supreme Court > connection. I think she was dissing your argumentation style. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:06:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA16gwA017414 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:06:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004494DA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:05:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:06:00 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0u0503355 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:56:00 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA0twPd007324 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:55:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:55:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDACBD.33F53477@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Spammers are the world's worst scum. Who in the world responds to them, >thus stoking their fires?? I don't find them that much of a nuisance - and I do get a lot of them -I can almost always tell from the header that a message is spam - I just hit the d key and go on. On Webmail, we now have filters - I have not tried them yet. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:08:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA182wA017421 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:08:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004494E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:07:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:07:20 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA0vK503434 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:57:20 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA0vJPd007782 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:57:19 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survivor In-Reply-To: <3DCDADAA.F5B63D48@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I wish I remembered the context of Bethany's statement. Wasn't it >something about gods? I'm trying to think of the Supreme Court >connection. You said that you do not think a belief can ever constitute evidence. It is not , but it is often important evidence. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1BNwA017442 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:11:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004494FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:10:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:10:41 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA10e503658 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:00:41 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA10dPd008874 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:00:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:00:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDAEE1.D6091852@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of >> >there being only one god. >> >> I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. > >So saying there's "one god" isn't the same as saying there's "a single >god"? Interesting. And what's the you refer to? I no longer have your original post in front of me - but IIRC you did not use quite that langauge. I think you said something about a god being single. The God I talk about is not single, not married, not widowed, not divorced - but is trinitarian. Re evidence - see my earlier post. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:14:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1EQwA017458 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:14:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044951B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA13h503849 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:03:43 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA13hPd009859 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:03:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:03:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, I found your original langaueg: On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. It was as I remembered it. Please note that if there is only one, then it doesn't make any sense to talk about "single gods." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:14:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1EXwA017461 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:14:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044951D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518483 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1Do504481 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:50 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-144.panax.com [63.163.41.144]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1Dnt00339 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:49 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109201243.009f27b0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:13:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <20021110000332.4B6437C3C@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109190102.00a044d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev said: > > I didn't get it. I never get any spam, except what comes to words-l. I > > am utterly and entirely grateful to my ISP and it's evident spam filter. > >I've never seen a spam filter that effective that didn't take a lot of >my other real e-mail with it. --Karen I guess I'll never know what I'm missing. Maybe someone is knock, knock, knockin' and never getting through. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:15:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1FhwA017484 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:15:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449528@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:15:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:15:00 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1F0504766 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:15:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110011642.EUTR20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:16:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDB30E.F2387AF6@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:14:54 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >So saying there's "one god" isn't the same as saying there's "a single > >god"? Interesting. And what's the you refer to? > > I no longer have your original post in front of me - but IIRC you did not > use quite that langauge. I think you said something about a god being > single. I said you probably received that spam because you had been talking recently about single gods. To me that means as opposed to plural gods. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:16:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1GtwA017491 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:16:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044952F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:16:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:16:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Qs678rAYbQby+0WcOj9gPOKD2tS6SJ0y@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA16C503988 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:06:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D08E300DF for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1D42F7C3C; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:06:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDAE39.ECFFB04B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 6:54:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:06:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110010611.1D42F7C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Anyway, I don't see anything indicating that 15+ years is a normal > > interval for a series. > > Did anybody say it was a normal interval? I'd say it's not the norm at > all. But it happens. If team X played team Y in 1900 and then for the > next time in 2002, it would still be called a series -- but far from a > typical one. By whom? I looked at the Knoxville newspaper and the Miami newspaper, and the only mention of series is in the latter, in reference to the first "group of 4 downs a team has to advance 10 yards". (This is quoted from the glossary of sports terms I found on onelook.com.) Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:17:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1HpwA017495 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:17:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449534@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:17:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518630 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:17:08 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1H8504906 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:17:08 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110011850.EVNQ20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:18:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDB38E.FA411C98@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:17:02 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. > > It was as I remembered it. > > Please note that if there is only one, then it doesn't make any sense to > talk about "single gods." Ahh, I see your point now. But it nevertheless makes sense to me to say that you were talking about single gods. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:19:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1J0wA017504 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:19:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449540@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518662 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1IH504956 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:18:17 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA16995 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:18:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 78DC238699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:18:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:18:16 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) Message-ID: <20021110011816.GD11289@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:03:43PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Natalie, I found your original langaueg: > > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >> >Probably only those who have been talking about single gods lately. > > It was as I remembered it. > > Please note that if there is only one, then it doesn't make any sense to > talk about "single gods." I think the meaning is clear from the context--Dr Maynor means (multiple different) conceptions of a single god. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:20:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1JvwA017509 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:19:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449545@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518679 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:15 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1JF505017 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110012056.EWJN20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDB40C.9AF6CE00@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:19:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110010611.1D42F7C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Anyway, I don't see anything indicating that 15+ years is a normal > > > interval for a series. > > > > Did anybody say it was a normal interval? I'd say it's not the norm at > > all. But it happens. If team X played team Y in 1900 and then for the > > next time in 2002, it would still be called a series -- but far from a > > typical one. > > By whom? I looked at the Knoxville newspaper and the Miami newspaper, > and the only mention of series is in the latter, in reference to the > first "group of 4 downs a team has to advance 10 yards". (This is > quoted from the glossary of sports terms I found on onelook.com.) By people who talk about serieses. That doesn't mean that they have to talk about it constantly. Iow, the Knoxville or Miami newspapers don't have to use that word on a particular day in order for it to be considered a real word for the concept. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:20:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1KBwA017513 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:20:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F156A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:28 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1JS505032 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:28 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA17300 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:19:28 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id F1D4838699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:19:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:19:27 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Surprise deer harvest annoys drivers Message-ID: <20021110011927.GE11289@pobox.com> References: <20021110000854.142B77C3A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCDAD6D.F58BA2DF@maynor.net> <20021110005301.GB11289@pobox.com> <3DCDAF36.F5E69CA7@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCDAF36.F5E69CA7@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 06:58:30PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 06:50:53PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > It's a novel about college sorority sisters. Something to do with > > > the mafia father of one of them, I think. > > > > Deliver me Jesus > > She wouldn't tell Click and Clack her working title. But she's written > sixty-five pages. She's worried about how long it should take them to > drive from X to Y, though, and thus called upon C&C for the answer. Probably is doing the http://www.nanowrimo.org/ thing. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:20:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1KdwA017517 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:20:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044954E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:57 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1Jv505052 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:19:57 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110012139.EWSQ20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:21:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDB437.FF01641C@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:19:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) References: <20021110011816.GD11289@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Please note that if there is only one, then it doesn't make any sense to > > talk about "single gods." > > I think the meaning is clear from the context--Dr Maynor means > (multiple different) conceptions of a single god. Thank you, Tushykins, for clarifying. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:24:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1OTwA017530 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:24:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449568@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:23:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:23:44 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1Ni505251 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:23:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110012526.EYPQ20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:25:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDB51A.8E42ECE7@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:23:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: <20021110000332.4B6437C3C@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021109201701.009fe040@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > >Spammers are the world's worst scum. Who in the world responds to them, > >thus stoking their fires?? -- Natalie > > I don't know that much about it. But for awhile my friend April, who was > getting dial-up access through panax.com while using her own domain > barharbormaine.org as an email address, could not get an email through to > any of us at panax.com. Somehow they detected that one of her computers > was infected. They blocked her. She cleaned up her computer, and, I > think, called them to say she was clean. They let her back through. Are > you assuming there had to be complaints against her before they filtered > her out? Or do you suppose it was automatic? I'm not assuming anything, but I'd say that what you're talking about is a different subject from spam filters -- it was apparently some kind of in-house virus control at your ISP. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:31:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1VSwA017582 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:31:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044958F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:30:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:30:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1RI8V8tIeLtFBQRkBUvnvmmSkyRl83a9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1Ki505110 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:20:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D5B300E6 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C958C7C36; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:20:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDB40C.9AF6CE00@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 7:19: 8 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:20:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110012043.C958C7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Natalie Maynor said: > > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Anyway, I don't see anything indicating that 15+ years is a normal > > > > interval for a series. > > > > > > Did anybody say it was a normal interval? I'd say it's not the norm at > > > all. But it happens. If team X played team Y in 1900 and then for the > > > next time in 2002, it would still be called a series -- but far from a > > > typical one. > > > > By whom? I looked at the Knoxville newspaper and the Miami newspaper, > > and the only mention of series is in the latter, in reference to the > > first "group of 4 downs a team has to advance 10 yards". (This is > > quoted from the glossary of sports terms I found on onelook.com.) > > By people who talk about serieses. That doesn't mean that they have to > talk about it constantly. Iow, the Knoxville or Miami newspapers don't > have to use that word on a particular day in order for it to be > considered a real word for the concept. True. But if no one uses it, then it makes me think that perhaps it's not such a valid word choice in this context. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:34:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1YBwA017599 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:34:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004495A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:33:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:33:28 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1XS505803 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:33:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110013510.FCRT20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:35:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDB762.5020710E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:33:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110012043.C958C7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > By people who talk about serieses. That doesn't mean that they have to > > talk about it constantly. Iow, the Knoxville or Miami newspapers don't > > have to use that word on a particular day in order for it to be > > considered a real word for the concept. > > True. But if no one uses it, then it makes me think that perhaps it's > not such a valid word choice in this context. I don't understand your leap to "no one uses it." It's an ordinary word in the sports world. As I said above, that doesn't mean that every newspaper in the country has to use it every day. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:37:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1bYwA017616 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:37:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F15A6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:33:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518734 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:33:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BXjuoJ22l5SyBjW5NUyGVHhzeY7qjuOc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1NF505235 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:23:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601B5300ED for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 34A6E7C36; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:23:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109201701.009fe040@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 9, 2002 8:20:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:23:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110012315.34A6E7C36@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > I don't know that much about it. But for awhile my friend April, who was > getting dial-up access through panax.com while using her own domain > barharbormaine.org as an email address, could not get an email through to > any of us at panax.com. Somehow they detected that one of her computers > was infected. They blocked her. She cleaned up her computer, and, I > think, called them to say she was clean. They let her back through. Are > you assuming there had to be complaints against her before they filtered > her out? Or do you suppose it was automatic? You're conflating viruses and spam. They blocked her because she had a virus. That's different. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:37:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1bYwA017617 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:37:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1573@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:20:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518705 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:20:42 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1Kg505105 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:20:42 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-144.panax.com [63.163.41.144]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1Kat01337 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:20:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109201701.009fe040@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:20:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDACBD.33F53477@maynor.net> References: <20021110000332.4B6437C3C@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm getting more and more upset by that problem -- of spam filters of >the unsettable kind (as in the individual can't make choices). It's >inconvenient that I can't send e-mail to my uncle from this address >(unless I change the outgoing mail server, of course), and it's tiresome >that I'm having to forward mail from my uncle to somebody in California >who can send him mail without its being blocked but can't receive mail >from him. > >Spammers are the world's worst scum. Who in the world responds to them, >thus stoking their fires?? -- Natalie I don't know that much about it. But for awhile my friend April, who was getting dial-up access through panax.com while using her own domain barharbormaine.org as an email address, could not get an email through to any of us at panax.com. Somehow they detected that one of her computers was infected. They blocked her. She cleaned up her computer, and, I think, called them to say she was clean. They let her back through. Are you assuming there had to be complaints against her before they filtered her out? Or do you suppose it was automatic? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:41:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1fOwA017637 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:41:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004495E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:40:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:40:41 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1ef506371 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:40:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110014223.FFGZ20501.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDB913.DCB79E2D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:40:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Polls Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We've talked before about how much meaning polls might have. I find this one strange. If it's even a remotely accurate reflection of people's ideas, why did they vote the way they did? http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/09/newsweek.poll/index.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:49:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1nFwA017678 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:49:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044960E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:48:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518996 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:48:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:aK/Jb7GDrNWoehyGgPVlbSeG/hdh+iSY@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1cX506227 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:38:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D7C2FE2E for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CC8B27C31; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:38:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDB762.5020710E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 7:33:22 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:38:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110013832.CC8B27C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > By people who talk about serieses. That doesn't mean that they have to > > > talk about it constantly. Iow, the Knoxville or Miami newspapers don't > > > have to use that word on a particular day in order for it to be > > > considered a real word for the concept. > > > > True. But if no one uses it, then it makes me think that perhaps it's > > not such a valid word choice in this context. > > I don't understand your leap to "no one uses it." It's not a leap, it's what I found. No one using it with reference to this game, let alone one a hundred years ago. That's what I mean by 'in this context': in the context that we had been discussing. > It's an ordinary word in the sports world. Yes, it is, but it's generally used for games that are much closer together, or at least at regular intervals. > As I said above, that doesn't mean that every > newspaper in the country has to use it every day. No, it doesn't. But evidence would support the usage. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:53:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1rlwA017690 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:53:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044963B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:53:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:53:05 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1r5507103 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:53:05 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110015446.MVHY282.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:54:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDBBFA.D6846A62@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 19:52:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110013832.CC8B27C31@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > True. But if no one uses it, then it makes me think that perhaps it's > > > not such a valid word choice in this context. > > > > I don't understand your leap to "no one uses it." > > It's not a leap, it's what I found. No one using it with reference to > this game, let alone one a hundred years ago. That's what I mean by > 'in this context': in the context that we had been discussing. No one? I don't remember now which teams we were talking about (except that one was UT), but it's quite normal for the "series record" to be included in statistics about a game. Any two teams that have played have a "series record." Even just one meeting between them is called a series in some contexts. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:55:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1tpwA017697 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:55:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449646@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:55:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:55:08 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1t8507208 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:55:08 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA26843 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:55:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A0C3638699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:55:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:55:07 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polls Message-ID: <20021110015507.GA15449@pobox.com> References: <3DCDB913.DCB79E2D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCDB913.DCB79E2D@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 07:40:35PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > We've talked before about how much meaning polls might have. I find > this one strange. If it's even a remotely accurate reflection of > people's ideas, why did they vote the way they did? > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/11/09/newsweek.poll/index.html If it is even slightly accurate, then it would be the classic have it both ways. In other words, I did what was right, and now let me yawp about the serious misgivings I have about it. You don't see people doing this? It's an epidemic. Of course, I don't believe the poll is accurate. The people have spoken. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 19:59:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA1xAwA017711 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:59:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044965B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:58:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:58:27 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1wR507360 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:58:27 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021110015822.WQRB3205.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:58:22 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109175650.028a7080@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 17:58:17 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Polls In-Reply-To: <3DCDB913.DCB79E2D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >If it's even a remotely accurate reflection of >people's ideas, why did they vote the way they did? This is not a direct answer to your question, but note that a poll presumably samples the whole population, while the vote represents only people who chose to vote. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:05:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA25kwA017751 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:05:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044968E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:05:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:05:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:cr68o5lzFSl8YlE44gi8docNLtAcX2v2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA1t3507203 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:55:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92002FECB for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A5767C3A; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:55:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDBBFA.D6846A62@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 7:52:58 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:55:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110015502.7A5767C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > True. But if no one uses it, then it makes me think that perhaps it's > > > > not such a valid word choice in this context. > > > > > > I don't understand your leap to "no one uses it." > > > > It's not a leap, it's what I found. No one using it with reference to > > this game, let alone one a hundred years ago. That's what I mean by > > 'in this context': in the context that we had been discussing. > > No one? I couldn't find it; I'm sure this speaks more to my searching skills than anything else. > I don't remember now which teams we were talking about (except > that one was UT), Miami. > but it's quite normal for the "series record" to be > included in statistics about a game. Any two teams that have played > have a "series record." Even just one meeting between them is called a > series in some contexts. Cite? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:13:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2DtwA017768 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1666@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:13:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:13:12 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2DC508243 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:13:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110021454.ITUA1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:14:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC0B2.BF6F4F80@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:13:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110015502.7A5767C3A@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I couldn't find it; I'm sure this speaks more to my searching skills > than anything else. No, I'd say it speaks more to your ignorance of football terminology. And I don't mean that as an insult. Most people are ignorant of things they aren't interested in following. > > but it's quite normal for the "series record" to be > > included in statistics about a game. Any two teams that have played > > have a "series record." Even just one meeting between them is called a > > series in some contexts. > > Cite? I'm sure a web search will pop up examples. ... Ok, here's one that involves a series record of 0-0: ********** A: I don’t know why I was sort of surprised by this, but the Florida-Michigan series record is 0-0. Unless I blew past it when I looked it up in a couple of different places, Michigan played Miami and Florida State (1-1 against both), but the Wolverines haven’t played the Gators. ********** from http://collegefootballnews.com/2002/Ask_CFN/July_12.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:15:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2F5wA017795 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:15:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004496C3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2EM508302 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:14:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110021604.IUFN1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:16:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC0F8.1A935E7D@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:14:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Polls References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109175650.028a7080@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >If it's even a remotely accurate reflection of > >people's ideas, why did they vote the way they did? > > This is not a direct answer to your question, but note that a poll > presumably samples the whole population, while the vote represents only > people who chose to vote. Good point. And a sad one, imho. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:17:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2H9wA017808 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:17:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004496D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:16:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:16:27 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2GR508403 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:16:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110021809.IVDX1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:18:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC175.86820D20@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:16:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110015502.7A5767C3A@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCDC0B2.BF6F4F80@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you want the all-time series records of Arizona basketball, they're here: http://thesundevils.ocsn.com/sports/m-baskbl/archive/050201aaa.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:24:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2OTwA017833 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:24:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004496F8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:23:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:23:46 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2Dk508261 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:13:46 -0500 Received: from oe-iscan1pub.managedmail.com (oe-iscan1pub.managedmail.com [206.46.164.26]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2Dks32060 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:13:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by oe-iscan1pub.managedmail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA30280 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:41 -0600 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:13:41 -0600 From: abuse@bizmailsrvcs.net Message-Id: <200211100213.UAA30280@oe-iscan1pub.managedmail.com> To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu Subject: Virus Alert Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU We have detected a virus (WORM_KLEZ.H) in your mail traffic sent from lhiggins@plymouth.k12.ma.us in the file Times.bat on 11/09/2002 20:13:34. 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:29:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2TEwA017853 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:29:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044970A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:28:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:28:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:mEvYTNcxcFJEdmVFcxP9aTVol3KMu/el@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2IV508508 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:18:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352C12FE1C for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 03E907C36; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:18:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Memories In-Reply-To: <3DCDC0B2.BF6F4F80@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 9, 2002 8:13: 6 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 18:18:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021110021830.03E907C36@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I couldn't find it; I'm sure this speaks more to my searching skills > > than anything else. > > No, I'd say it speaks more to your ignorance of football terminology. Hm. What about the 'series' reference to the downs? That's football terminology. > And I don't mean that as an insult. Most people are ignorant of things > they aren't interested in following. So you are claiming that this usage of series is only for football? > > > but it's quite normal for the "series record" to be > > > included in statistics about a game. Any two teams that have played > > > have a "series record." Even just one meeting between them is called a > > > series in some contexts. > > > > Cite? > > I'm sure a web search will pop up examples. > ... > Ok, here's one that involves a series record of 0-0: > > ********** > A: I don’t know why I was sort of surprised by this, but > the Florida-Michigan series record is 0-0. Unless I blew > past it when I looked it up in a couple of different > places, Michigan played Miami and Florida State (1-1 against > both), but the Wolverines haven’t played the Gators. > ********** > from http://collegefootballnews.com/2002/Ask_CFN/July_12.htm Oh, nice! A zero series. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:34:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2YXwA017887 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:34:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449731@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:33:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519670 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:33:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2Nn508790 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:23:49 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA2NmPd004019 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:23:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:23:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3DCDB38E.FA411C98@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Please note that if there is only one, then it doesn't make any sense to >> talk about "single gods." > >Ahh, I see your point now. But it nevertheless makes sense to me to say >that you were talking about single gods. But I wasn't. You were. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:35:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2Z0wA017893 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:35:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449735@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:34:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:34:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2OH508827 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:24:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA2OFPd004127 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:24:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:24:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20021110011816.GD11289@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Tushar Samant wrote: >> Please note that if there is only one, then it doesn't make any sense to >> talk about "single gods." > >I think the meaning is clear from the context--Dr Maynor means >(multiple different) conceptions of a single god. But she did not say that. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:35:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2ZuwA017898 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:35:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F16BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:35:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:35:13 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2Yt509350 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:34:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110023637.SHS1333.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC5C9.2F6F9B71@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:34:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Memories References: <20021110021830.03E907C36@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Hm. What about the 'series' reference to the downs? That's football > terminology. I don't understand your point. Have you never heard of different uses of the same word in different contexts? > So you are claiming that this usage of series is only for football? No. But the current context was football -- what Bethany said about the UT-Miami series. > Oh, nice! A zero series. Yep. That's how the term "series record" works. If two teams have never played each other, then their series record is zero. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:36:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2aTwA017903 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:36:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F16C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:35:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:35:42 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2Zf509432 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:35:42 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA06549 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:35:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1C1FB38699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:35:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:35:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) Message-ID: <20021110023540.GA19501@pobox.com> References: <20021110011816.GD11289@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 09:24:15PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Tushar Samant wrote: > > >> Please note that if there is only one, then it doesn't make any sense to > >> talk about "single gods." > > > >I think the meaning is clear from the context--Dr Maynor means > >(multiple different) conceptions of a single god. > > But she did not say that. Impeccably true. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:38:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2c6wA017912 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:38:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449753@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:37:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:37:23 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2bN509576 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:37:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110023905.TKZ1333.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:39:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC65D.9418041F@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:37:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >I think the meaning is clear from the context--Dr Maynor means > >(multiple different) conceptions of a single god. > > But she did not say that. Ah. More to talk about in class next week. We were talking not long ago about low-context vs high-context cultures. The US overall is pretty lc, of course, but I think your personal culture must be even lower than the national norm. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:43:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2h8wA017943 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:43:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449783@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:42:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:42:25 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2gP509783 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:42:25 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110024407.VWW1333.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC78B.7D8DCFEA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:42:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Series Records Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU It's kind of fun looking up series records. I just returned to the googling that I had started for Karen and discovered that Baylor has beaten us 3-2 in baseball. That surprised me. (The dates of our meeting aren't given.) http://www.baylorfans.com/history/baseball/series_record.php#M -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:46:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2kawA017978 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:46:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044979E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:45:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:45:53 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2jr510175 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:45:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110024735.LPPS7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:47:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC85B.579C8EB8@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:45:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Series Records References: <3DCDC78B.7D8DCFEA@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I also found out today's fb score by chance -- by popping up a series record thing for Alabama. We didn't lose by nearly as much as I had expected. Alabama says "first in series" rather than 0-0 for teams they haven't played before, btw: http://www.ladyinred.net/football.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:48:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2mRwA017982 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:48:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004497A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:47:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520099 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:47:44 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail110.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2li510277 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:47:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110024926.LQGN7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:49:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDC8CA.9F38F358@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:47:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Series Records References: <3DCDC78B.7D8DCFEA@maynor.net> <3DCDC85B.579C8EB8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > I also found out today's fb score by chance -- by popping up a series > record thing for Alabama. We didn't lose by nearly as much as I had > expected. Oops! I just looked again and saw that that was last year's score. This year's is no doubt megamuch worse. We sucked last year, but we supersuck this year. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 20:56:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA2uvwA018015 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 20:56:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004497D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:56:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520295 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:56:14 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail110.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA2uE510772 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:56:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.148]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110025756.LTAY7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:57:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDCAC8.8AC733EE@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 20:56:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Speaking of Gods Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have I mentioned before that the MSU student wiccan/pagan organization holds its meetings at the YMCA building? I find that funny. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:02:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA32LwA018050 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:02:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004497F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:01:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520467 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:01:38 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA31c511148 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:01:38 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:01:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDCCAF.20DB9B1D@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:04:15 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: <3DCDA3E9.C994FC74@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of > there being only one god. That is what the lady said. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:09:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA39NwA018072 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:09:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449829@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:08:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:08:40 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA38e511849 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:08:40 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:08:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDCE54.9853DF2A@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:11:16 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. Cite. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:11:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3B5wA018108 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:11:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F17BC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520722 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:10:22 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3AM511964 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:10:22 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA15294 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:10:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7925938699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:10:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:10:21 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) Message-ID: <20021110031021.GA21341@pobox.com> References: <3DCDC65D.9418041F@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCDC65D.9418041F@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 08:37:17PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Ah. More to talk about in class next week. We were talking not long > ago about low-context vs high-context cultures. I think "low context" just a euphemism for "I will not make the slightest effort to understand what you mean". Discuss From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:13:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3D4wA018119 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:13:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449837@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:12:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520736 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:12:21 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3CL512050 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:12:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.222]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110031403.NSDL10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:14:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDCE8F.D8457C0E@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 21:12:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: <3DCDA3E9.C994FC74@maynor.net> <3DCDCCAF.20DB9B1D@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of > > there being only one god. > > That is what the lady said. But "only one" doesn't mean "single" in Bethany's lingo. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:13:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3DawA018127 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:13:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044983D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:12:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520515 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:12:53 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA32r511284 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:02:53 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA32pPd016150 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:02:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:02:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <3DCDCAC8.8AC733EE@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Have I mentioned before that the MSU student wiccan/pagan organization >holds its meetings at the YMCA building? I find that funny. Why? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:14:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3EUwA018133 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:14:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00449840@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:13:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520545 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:13:47 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA33k511365 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:03:46 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA33jPd016353 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:03:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:03:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDCCAF.20DB9B1D@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: >> > >> Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of >> there being only one god. > >That is what the lady said. Actually, she only said that she was a Christian. Or am I the ? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:15:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3FCwA018157 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:15:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F17CF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:14:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520793 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:14:29 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3ET512191 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:14:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.222]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110031611.NTAL10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:16:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDCF0F.254FFD74@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 21:14:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) References: <3DCDC65D.9418041F@maynor.net> <20021110031021.GA21341@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Ah. More to talk about in class next week. We were talking not long > > ago about low-context vs high-context cultures. > > I think "low context" just a euphemism for "I will not make > the slightest effort to understand what you mean". > > Discuss Are you saying that you don't think there are cultural differences in how explicit people are expected to be? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:18:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3IEwA018170 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:18:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449856@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:17:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520907 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:17:31 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail126.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.86]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3HV512497 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:17:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.222]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110031913.NUBM10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDCFC5.7239E7EA@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 21:17:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Have I mentioned before that the MSU student wiccan/pagan organization > >holds its meetings at the YMCA building? I find that funny. > > Why? Because when I think of YMCA, I think of Young Men's Christian Association. I long ago lost the gender connection with it (probably about the time I took Senior Lifesaving at the YMCA and didn't have to be a young man to do so -- I was a young woman). But I still find the juxtaposition of Christian and Pagan funny. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:19:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3JDwA018178 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:19:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F17EF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:18:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:18:30 -0500 Received: from imf26bis.bellsouth.net (mail026.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.66]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3IU512548 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:18:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.222]) by imf26bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110032011.NULC10479.imf26bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDD000.FF89C809@maynor.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 21:18:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> > > >> Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of > >> there being only one god. > > > >That is what the lady said. > > Actually, she only said that she was a Christian. > > Or am I the ? ? You said that there was some evidence of there being only one god. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:20:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3KtwA018188 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:20:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044985F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520942 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:12 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3KC512649 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:12 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.97]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDD108.6DA0368C@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:22:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > Re evidence - see my earlier post. > So, Bethany, when you are in court and are asked to present evidence, do you just say, "There's a large bibliography"? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:21:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3L5wA018192 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:21:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00449861@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520949 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:22 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3KL512661 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:21 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-38.panax.com [63.163.41.38]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3KJt17182 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:19 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109221906.00b60718@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:19:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Polls In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109175650.028a7080@mail.istori.com> References: <3DCDB913.DCB79E2D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:58 PM 11/9/2002 -0800, pete wrote: >Natalie Maynor writes, > >>If it's even a remotely accurate reflection of >>people's ideas, why did they vote the way they did? > >This is not a direct answer to your question, but note that a poll >presumably samples the whole population, while the vote represents only >people who chose to vote. The key word is "presumably." From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:30:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3UDwA018266 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:30:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00449887@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:29:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520939 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:29:30 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3JU512605 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:19:30 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA3JTPd021814 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:19:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:19:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDCE54.9853DF2A@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. > >Cite. The New Oxford Annotated Bible, Oxford University Press with Apocrypha 0-19-528356-2 Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:30:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3UswA018270 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:30:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044988C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:30:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:30:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3UA513510 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:30:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.97]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:30:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDD35C.9B97D50F@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:32:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > >Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> > > >> Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of > >> there being only one god. > > > >That is what the lady said. > > Actually, she only said that she was a Christian. > > Or am I the ? You are the lady. It has nothing to do with the Nigerian. How did you make this leap? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:31:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3VNwA018275 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:31:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044988F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:30:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520972 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:30:39 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3Kd512703 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:39 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA3KcPd022219 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:20:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <3DCDCFC5.7239E7EA@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Because when I think of YMCA, I think of Young Men's Christian >Association. I long ago lost the gender connection with it (probably >about the time I took Senior Lifesaving at the YMCA and didn't have to >be a young man to do so -- I was a young woman). But I still find the >juxtaposition of Christian and Pagan funny. You have a stangely narrow definition of the word Christian, I think. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:32:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3WYwA018279 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:32:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1841@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:31:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520999 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:31:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3Lp512775 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:21:51 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA3LnPd022530 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:21:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:21:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDD000.FF89C809@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> Oh. I thought you had said earlier that there was some evidence of >> >> there being only one god. >> > >> >That is what the lady said. >> >> Actually, she only said that she was a Christian. >> >> Or am I the ? > >? You said that there was some evidence of there being only one god. But the header is about the lady from NIgeria. So who is the being refered to? I do not recall being referred to as a on this service before. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:33:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3XhwA018284 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:33:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044989A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:32:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:32:59 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3Mx512848 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:22:59 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAA3MwPd022892 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:22:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:22:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCDD108.6DA0368C@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >So, Bethany, when you are in court and are asked to present evidence, do >you just say, "There's a large bibliography"? If I have already given the biblio or other , I refer the interrogator back to it, yes. It would be a waste of everyone's time for me to do otherwise. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:34:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3YBwA018291 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:34:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044989B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:33:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:33:28 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3XS513710 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:33:28 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:33:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDD425.2B0392D0@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:36:05 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. > > > >Cite. > > The New Oxford Annotated Bible, Oxford University Press with Apocrypha > 0-19-528356-2 You are telling me that if something is in a book, it makes it true? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:36:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3aAwA018298 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:36:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004498A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:35:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:35:26 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3ZQ513829 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:35:26 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.97]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:35:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDD49B.77983B4@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:38:03 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > But the header is about the lady from NIgeria. So who is the being > refered to? I do not recall being referred to as a on this service > before. No, probably no one has called you a lady on this service. But I did. It was a rhetorical device. (Although I'm sure that you *are* a lady.) alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:39:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3dAwA018310 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:39:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F1868@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:38:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:38:22 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3cM513957 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:38:22 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust95.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.97]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:38:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCDD54B.D31B1BB8@valstar.net> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:40:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > If I have already given the biblio or other , I refer the > interrogator back to it, yes. It would be a waste of everyone's time for > me to do otherwise. But a bibliography is not evidence of a truth, surely. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 21:59:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA3xWwA018405 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:59:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F18D9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:58:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:58:49 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA3wm515187 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:58:48 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA28919 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:58:48 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 33B3C38699; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:58:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 21:58:48 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) Message-ID: <20021110035847.GB22919@pobox.com> References: <3DCDC65D.9418041F@maynor.net> <20021110031021.GA21341@pobox.com> <3DCDCF0F.254FFD74@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCDCF0F.254FFD74@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 09:14:23PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Ah. More to talk about in class next week. We were talking not long > > > ago about low-context vs high-context cultures. > > > > I think "low context" just a euphemism for "I will not make > > the slightest effort to understand what you mean". > > > > Discuss > > Are you saying that you don't think there are cultural differences in > how explicit people are expected to be? No, I would agree if, (1) I was a fan of meatlessly "descriptive" statements bordering on the meaningless, (2) was comfortable with another (IMO) meaningless term, namely "cultural differences". It takes too many forms. I, for instance, spend almost all my time in "programmer culture", or "newsgroup culture", or "pub culture" or whatever, and I find these extremely "high-context". So where is the Overall American Culture which is presumably low context? (Certainly not anywhere where hundreds of unspecified behaviors are silently considered a wee bit tacky ...) All it boils down to, I think, is that in situations where the population is diverse and not very rooted, and the lingua franca is foreign to everyone, people tend to use "low-context" language to Cover Ass. In all other cases, "low-context" is rare and a pathology. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 22:23:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA4N3wA018556 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:23:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F2023@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:22:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3526805 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:19:21 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA4JL518210 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:19:21 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.c1.29fdb67e (18555) for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:19:06 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:19:06 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] a different take from NIGERIA To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/09/2002 6:48:16 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Spammers are the world's worst scum. >> No, the world's worst scum are those who abuse animals, such as the creeps who set a 4-and-a-half-month old puppy on fire and tossed her out of a car, and children. Spammers are just annoyances, major annoyances, but not the world's worst scum. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sat Nov 9 22:55:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA4tjwA018682 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 22:55:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00449C66@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:55:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:55:01 -0500 Received: from jandor.look.ca (jandor.look.ca [207.136.80.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA4t1520348 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2002 23:55:01 -0500 Received: from on-tor-blr-a58-01-223.look.ca ([216.154.0.223]) by jandor.look.ca with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Ak7Y-0006en-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sat, 09 Nov 2002 23:54:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.20021109235406.260ffda0@mail.look.ca> X-Sender: jemcinto@mail.look.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 23:54:06 To: English Language Discussion Group From: James McIntosh Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Red Chinese generals claim to be inspiration behind Sept. 11 attacks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=6.0 tests=INVALID_DATE,LINES_OF_YELLING,SPAM_PHRASE_01_02 version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: ** Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have slightly edited the following extracted from a web page: ... two high-ranking Chinese military planners took credit for the 9/11 attacks -- and were even hailed as national heroes in China. ... triumphant comments by the authors of "Unrestricted Warfare", a war manual for the Red Chinese Army, anticipating a war against the U.S. as early as 2014. ... three years before 9/11, the Chinese colonels had proposed the attacks and cited Osama bin Laden by name in their book ... ... quick to take credit for the attacks on the World Trade Center ... the unconventional attacks of 9/11 were right from the pages of their book The book was published by China's People's Liberation Army and had the endorsement of the Chinese government. ... spread terror and cripple the U.S. economy. ... recruits from a huge, unscreened and often unassimilated immigrant fifth column. ... using ... "asymmetrical" warfare ... to destroy the U.S. "China thinks it can destroy America by using these tactics." It is extracted from a web page: http://www.freedomsite.org/pipermail/fs_announce/2002/000950.html [FS_ANNOUNCE] RED CHINA CLAIMS TO BE INSPIRATION BEHIND SEPT. 11 ATTACKS fs_announce@freedomsite.org fs_announce@freedomsite.org Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:17:55 -0400 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lost in much of the discussion of the attack on the U.S. on September 11, 2001 are triumphant comments by the authors of Unrestricted Warfare, a war manual for the Red Chinese Army, anticipating a war against the U.S. as early as 2014. This book sees a multi-pronged attack on the U.S. by many means, including sabotage and the sort of guerrilla attacks characterized by September 11, attacks that would spread terror and cripple the U.S. economy. The authors, two Chinese Army "colonels were quick to take credit for the attacks on the World Trade Center, telling the paper their strategy had worked and that September 11, 2001 very likely is the beginning of the decline of the United States, as a superpower. Qiao and Wang offer in Unrestricted Warfare several new methods for destroying the U.S. -- from manipulating U.S. media --, to homicide-suicide bombing, to using immigrants as a fifth column." Key to the September 11 was the ability to use recruits from a huge, unscreened and often unassimilated immigrant fifth column. Equally worrisome are the millions of Chinese in Canada and the U.S., many loyal to their communist homeland and not compelled to assimilate or alter their allegiance, thanks to the pernicious doctrines of multiculturalism in Canada and the U.S. Using terrorism or unconventional warfare the immigrant fifth column can seriously weaken and damage America (or Canada) from within. Once again, the September 11 attacks demonstrates that, in terms of terrorism, IT'S IMMIGRATION, STUPID. Paul Fromm Director CANADA FIRST IMMIGRATION REFORM COMMITTEE ____________________________________________________________________________ Qiao and Wang offer in "Unrestricted Warfare" several new methods for destroying the U.S. -- from manipulating U.S. media, to homicide-suicide bombing, to using immigrants as a fifth column, CHINESE PLANNERS TOOK CREDIT FOR 9/11 http://www.newsmaxstore.com/a/unrestrictedwarfare Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002. From: NewsMax.com Breaking from NewsMax.com -- September 25, 2002 China's Military Planners Took Credit for 9/11 Soon after the horrific attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, two high-ranking Chinese military planners took credit for the 9/11 attacks -- and were even hailed as national heroes in China. In fact, three years before 9/11, the Chinese colonels had proposed the attacks and cited Osama bin Laden by name in their book "Unrestricted Warfare." The authors of "Unrestricted Warfare" are Senior Cols. Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui, and in 1999 they wrote that an attack by bin Laden on the World Trade Center would be just the type of "unrestricted warfare" that could bring down America. The book was published by China's People's Liberation Army and had the endorsement of the Chinese government. "Unrestricted Warfare" makes clear its purpose: offering China and other "weak" countries a strategy to destroy the U.S. without a full-scale invasion, using unusual or "asymmetrical" warfare. NewsMax has recently obtained the CIA translation of this astounding book and has made it available with an introduction by Al Santoli, editor of the prestigious China Reform Monitor. The importance of this book was highlighted soon after 9/11, when the Chinese colonels were treated as national heroes. In one interview with the Chinese government-owned Ta Kung Pao newspaper in Hong Kong, the colonels offered little sympathy for the Americans killed in 9/11. They told the paper, "The series of attacks taking place in the United States were very dreary and terrifying, but they must not be viewed from a single perspective" -- that is, the U.S. as victims. The colonels then added coldly that the Americans "were victims of U.S. foreign policy." The colonels were quick to take credit for the attacks on the World Trade Center, telling the paper their strategy had worked and that "September 11, 2001 very likely is the beginning of the decline of the United States, as a superpower." Qiao and Wang offer in "Unrestricted Warfare" several new methods for destroying the U.S. -- from manipulating U.S. media, to homicide-suicide bombing, to using immigrants as a fifth column, and even employing cyber attacks to destroy America's critical infrastructure. Both colonels agreed that the unconventional attacks of 9/11 were right from the pages of their book, and they demonstrated their theory works. "The attacks demonstrated the United States' fragility and weakness and showed that essentially it is unable to stand attacks. ... The United States, a giant tiger, has been dealing with mice; unexpectedly, this time it was bitten by mice -- it has been wielding a large hammer but has been unable to find the flea. "From a short-term perspective, the attacks in the United States will very likely have some effect on China's economy -- they might affect China's economic growth. However, from a long-term viewpoint, they could be favorable to China." "Unrestricted Warfare" has set off alarm bells among several high-ranking U.S. officers. Adm. Thomas Moorer, former chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, warns, "'Unrestricted Warfare' reveals China's game plan in its coming war with America." He adds ominously, "China thinks it can destroy America by using these tactics." Maj. Gen. John K. Singlaub, former chief of staff of U.S. Forces Korea, shares Adm. Moorer's view. "The 9/11 attacks may just be the beginning. Many terrorist nations and groups will try to imitate this operation," Gen. Singlaub said, noting "China's war book 'Unrestricted Warfare' will be their text." The translation of "Unrestricted Warfare" made for the CIA is now available to NewsMax readers: http://www.newsmaxstore.com/a/unrestrictedwarfare Jim McIntosh From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 00:14:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA6EFwA019007 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:14:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F25F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 1:13:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3531446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:13:31 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA6DU526476 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:13:30 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021110061325.EBJD20487.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:13:25 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109221216.02dbc060@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 22:13:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Red Chinese generals claim to be inspiration behind Sept. 11 attacks In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20021109235406.260ffda0@mail.look.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU James McIntosh forwards, >The translation of "Unrestricted Warfare" made for the CIA is now >available to NewsMax readers: Or you could just read or . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 01:07:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA77HwA019515 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 01:07:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A058@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 2:06:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3533089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:06:33 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA76X530470 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:06:33 -0500 Received: from c35206-a ([12.232.205.215]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021110070627.EWNK20487.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@c35206-a> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:06:27 +0000 Message-Id: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: lgclark@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 23:06:26 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Larry Clark Subject: wordsler help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What the hell does this mean? "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban sort of way." Larry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 02:04:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA84KwA019770 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:04:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044A1A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 3:03:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3534379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:03:35 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA83Z502004 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:03:35 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044A1A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 3:03:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200211100803.gAA83Z502004@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:03:34 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: No mail yet :-( To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Theodora Groothof Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Have you send any yet? Just had a session with an earthlink rep complaining about their system. Was told it was MY computer doing it! HA Works everywhere else ok. She logged off before I could get a satisfactory answer. Just subscribed again to words-l, therefor this message. Keeping my fingers crossed. I MISS y'all! Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 02:05:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA85QwA019775 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:05:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044A1A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 3:04:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3534396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:04:41 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA84f502061 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:04:41 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.9f.302862da (18555) for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:04:33 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.302862da.2aff6d10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:04:32 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] wordsler help To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2002 1:05:49 AM Central Standard Time, lgclark@ATTBI.COM writes: << What the hell does this mean? "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban sort of way." >> Nude with body jewelry? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 02:08:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA88ZwA019784 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:08:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A1B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 3:07:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3534488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:07:50 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA87o502421 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:07:50 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.23.27497e91 (18555); Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:07:39 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <23.27497e91.2aff6dcb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:07:39 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] No mail yet :-( To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU, dutchessg@EARTHLINK.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2002 2:03:58 AM Central Standard Time, Dutchessg@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << Have you send any yet? >> I sent a test message, did you get it? I'd suggest signing up for a hotmail account temporarily for listmail until you get things cleared up. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 02:13:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA8DVwA019792 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:13:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044A1CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 3:12:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3534648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:12:46 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA8Cj502967 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:12:45 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021110081239.FXFP20487.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:12:39 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109233948.039253b0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 00:12:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: wordsler help In-Reply-To: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark writes, >"We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to be more >organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban sort of way." I think it means you're looking at a late-teen / twenty-something demographic which is probably mostly white-bread suburban. [With a POTUS who can say with his version of a straight face, "I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place" (Bush/Gore debate, 2000-10-03), it is the era of Newspeak.] Here are "funky urban teens" (even *more* white-bread than what you're looking for, if you can imagine it): . Here are funky "urban divas": . Here is "Organic Detroit": . Found Organic Detroit via funky "Urban Organic": . Pete WAR IS PEACE. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 02:52:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAA8q9wA019936 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 02:52:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A265@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 3:51:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3534914 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:51:23 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAA8pN504844 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:51:23 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F29C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 3:51:23 -0500 Message-Id: <200211100851.gAA8pN504844@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 03:51:23 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: Re: Where's my mail? To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Theodora Groothof Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ally, I never got your test message, but I just got through complaining, and lo and behold, there you are! All of you even. Hopefully it will keep doing this, but I'm getting good at complaining! Thankful at last, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 06:52:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAACqNwA020944 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:52:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A525@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 7:51:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3503710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:51:35 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail100.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAACpZ519961 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:51:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.46]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110125317.CHPH1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:53:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE5650.5AC0CC68@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:51:28 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > You have a stangely narrow definition of the word Christian, I think. What is your definition of it? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 06:53:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAACr3wA020955 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:53:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044A528@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 7:52:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3503724 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:52:15 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAACqF520018 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:52:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.164.46]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110125357.CHWN1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:53:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE5678.FFDE9EC9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:52:08 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >? You said that there was some evidence of there being only one god. > > But the header is about the lady from NIgeria. So who is the being The header?? You're sounding like a newbie! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 07:03:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAD3gwA021031 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:03:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044A54F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 8:02:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3503968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:02:54 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail122.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAD2s520721 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:02:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.6]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110130426.IYFD1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:04:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE58F4.517FD1C5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:02:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA (fwd) References: <3DCDC65D.9418041F@maynor.net> <20021110031021.GA21341@pobox.com> <3DCDCF0F.254FFD74@maynor.net> <20021110035847.GB22919@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Are you saying that you don't think there are cultural differences in > > how explicit people are expected to be? > > No, I would agree if, (1) I was a fan of meatlessly "descriptive" > statements bordering on the meaningless, (2) was comfortable with > another (IMO) meaningless term, namely "cultural differences". It > takes too many forms. So you think that having too many forms makes the term meaningless for the concept? > I, for instance, spend almost all my time > in "programmer culture", or "newsgroup culture", or "pub culture" > or whatever, and I find these extremely "high-context". So where > is the Overall American Culture which is presumably low context? It's the way people tend to communicate in non-specialized groups -- like a bunch of people thrown together somewhere who aren't part of the same . I've asked the question before "what is US culture?" and not gotten any answers that I found useful, btw. I remember asking it here in relation to "Canadian culture." Nevertheless, I think the culture pie can be sliced like the dialect pie. Re topics like HC and LC, these conversational styles are acquired during the language-acquisition process the same way we acquire things like spatial distances, markers in conversational turn-taking (as in whether there's a pause between speakers, how long it is, etc.), etc. Iow, we develop conversational styles based on who we're around when acquiring language. That's why there are in such styles. > (Certainly not anywhere where hundreds of unspecified behaviors > are silently considered a wee bit tacky ...) All it boils down > to, I think, is that in situations where the population is diverse > and not very rooted, and the lingua franca is foreign to everyone, > people tend to use "low-context" language to Cover Ass. In all > other cases, "low-context" is rare and a pathology. Whether you view it as rare and a pathology is perhaps culturally based. ;-) Some Japanese do find the USAer's need for explicitness at least quite strange. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 07:05:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAD5OwA021041 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:05:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A555@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 8:04:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:04:30 -0500 Received: from imf22bis.bellsouth.net (mail122.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.82]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAD4U520799 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:04:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.6]) by imf22bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110130601.IYVZ1237.imf22bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:06:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE5957.8D37E9C2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:04:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help References: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Larry Clark wrote: > > What the hell does this mean? > > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to be more > organic/natural in > approach, but in an organic/funky/urban sort of way." Somebody eating an apple while sitting on the floor of a loft with funkily painted walls? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 07:38:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAADcRwA021196 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:38:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044A5BE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 8:37:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504573 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:37:39 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAADbd522873 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:37:39 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-75.panax.com [65.114.190.75]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAADbbt30974 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:37:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110083151.00b2ccd0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:34:11 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: wordsler help In-Reply-To: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:06 PM 11/9/2002 -0800, larry wrote: >What the hell does this mean? > >"We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to be more >organic/natural in >approach, but in an organic/funky/urban sort of way." It means that the drugs kicked in. Or, maybe it's code from those Chinese colonels... cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 07:41:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAADfbwA021210 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:41:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A5C5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 8:40:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504594 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:40:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAADen523017 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:40:50 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-75.panax.com [65.114.190.75]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAADemt31373 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:40:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110083947.00b344f8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:40:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Red Chinese generals claim to be inspiration behind Sept. 11 attacks In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109221216.02dbc060@mail.istori.com> References: <3.0.6.16.20021109235406.260ffda0@mail.look.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:13 PM 11/9/2002 -0800, you wrote: >James McIntosh forwards, > >>The translation of "Unrestricted Warfare" made for the CIA is now >>available to NewsMax readers: > >Or you could just read or >. > >Pete ...or wait for the Looney Tunes comic book on the subject... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 07:52:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAADqswA021260 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:52:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A5ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 8:52:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:06 -0500 Received: from panther.mail.utk.edu (panther.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.33]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAADq6523861 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:06 -0500 Received: from webmail.utk.edu (abbott.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.169]) by panther.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAADq4Ll028284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:04 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: dumasb Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:04 -0500 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: English Language Discussion Group X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002286 Subject: RE: a different take from NIGERIA Message-ID: <3DDED6A5@webmail.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce: >You are the lady. It has nothing to do with the Nigerian. How did you >make this leap? I made the because my name was not mentioned and because the header was: RE: a different take from NIGERIA There appeared to be two possibilities - the christian lady from Nigeria - et moi. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 07:53:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAADrWwA021265 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 07:53:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044A5F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 8:52:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3504831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAADqj523914 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:45 -0500 Received: from webmail.utk.edu (abbott.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.169]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAADqiPd025107 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:44 -0500 X-WebMail-UserID: dumasb Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:52:44 -0500 From: "Bethany K. Dumas" To: English Language Discussion Group X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002286 Subject: RE: a different take from NIGERIA Message-ID: <3DDED6DC@webmail.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61.08 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU aluce: >You are telling me that if something is in a book, it makes it true? No, that is not what I said. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 08:11:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAEB1wA021336 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:11:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044A644@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 9:10:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:10:13 -0500 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAEAD525101 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:10:13 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.9c.292a4ee3 (4446) for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9c.292a4ee3.2affc2bb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:10:03 EST Subject: puppy To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They put that poor puppy to sleep. May God have mercy on the creep's soul, because I don't. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 08:24:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAEOHwA021397 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:24:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A674@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 9:23:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:23:30 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAENT525995 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:23:29 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gAAEP0701673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:25:00 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:25:00 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021110152500.A1662@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108215142.GH16227@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021108215142.GH16227@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 03:51:42PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 03:51:42PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:03:54PM +0100, steph wrote: = > Well, what's really interesting is that he was the only one. = > There's lots of people developing. Why was he the only one with = > any interest in clean clear version control and smooth code = > merges? = = Who knows? The reasons that I can think of why one is and others = aren't are unflattering to both parties. What other kind of reasons = could I think of anyway. But now I have a much better opinion of = this guy. He clearly didn't "guard his knowledge" or anything--he = just gave up on anybody taking any interest. People don't. They = don't for one moment consider it part of their job. Same as what = my brother in law said was happening in The Media. There is no = holistic conception of the job. How many genius programmers do = you see who work hard to achieve *concise English expression* = for documenting their code? None? I see ... = More like, how many mediocre programmers do I see putting one stitch of a comment into their code. Certainly some of them do, but the last bit I saw was completely devoid. = > = > There's more to why he's gone that's not above. = > = = > = The immediate reason for his leaving has nothign to do with = > = my psychic feelings on the issue. = > = > The rumour mill ground out a good one today. I will keep with = > your psychy. = = Discovered large-scale "anomalies" in the billing system? = I don't know if anomalies is the right word. Everyone knows it's GIGO. No, it was just the latest "you all will be outsourced" sillyness. = > = will serve as baseline. Build upon what you have, make two = > = ad hoc forever parallel branches if necessary. This is the = > = state of "engineering" at the beginning of the century. Do = > = not be deluded. = > = > Thanks. I don't know why I might have thought it could have been = > different. = = We are all newcomers to software, and we think this is the time = when self-taught programmers do great things. Wrong--that was = in the 50s, maybe. Right now, it's school-taught programmers = doing dumbass things. I'll agree with that. It's also management isn't any better at managing than the programmers are at programming. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 08:28:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAES9wA021411 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:28:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A680@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 9:27:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505508 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:27:22 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe46.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAERL526215 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:27:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:27:16 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Citing Religious Books Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:30:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2002 14:27:16.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[44B0FDA0:01C288C5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. > >Cite. >The New Oxford Annotated Bible, Oxford University Press with Apocrypha 0-19-528356-2 >Bethany A student e-mailed me asking how to MLA-cite holy books -- the bible et al. Anyone have a quick answer? AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 08:30:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAEUrwA021447 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:30:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A68B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 9:30:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:30:05 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAEU4526361 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:30:05 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gAAEVZa01697 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:31:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:31:35 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021110153135.B1662@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from bookrat@BOOKRAT.COM on Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:28:29PM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 09:28:29PM -0800, Bookrat wrote: = At 1:03 PM -0800 11/8/02, steph wrote: = >Well, what's really interesting is that he was the only one. = >There's lots of people developing. Why was he the only one with = >any interest in clean clear version control and smooth code = >merges? = = Our new building will have 27 network closets serving up to 3000 ports on = God knows how many VLANs. And yet, I still get blank looks from my fellow = IT staff whenever I mention the need for some sort of change management = system. = = The fact is that this sort of stuff is not sexy. For the rank and file, it = does not bring promotion; for management, it does not bring additional = funding to the department. And fundamentally, it's just not interesting. = It's housekeeping. It's administrivia. Let the secretaries take care of = it, is the attitude of both the hotshots and the pluggers. = We have change management. We have trouble ticketing. This is like waxing the car and never changing the oil. We let the developers manage the code. They're doing an excellent job of making more work for themselves, I do believe. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 08:31:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAEVewA021453 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:31:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044A68E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 9:30:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:30:52 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe30.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.87]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAEUq526397 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:30:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 06:30:46 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Meatless/Meaningless Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:34:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2002 14:30:46.0730 (UTC) FILETIME=[C22A92A0:01C288C5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar: > Are you saying that you don't think there are cultural differences in > how explicit people are expected to be? >No, I would agree if, (1) I was a fan of meatlessly "descriptive" >statements bordering on the meaningless, (2) was comfortable with >another (IMO) meaningless term, namely "cultural differences". ... which makes for endless classroom spoken and written prattle with little or no practical application whatsoever. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 08:36:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAEaUwA021475 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:36:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044A6A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 9:35:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3505686 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:35:42 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAEZf526814 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:35:41 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gAAEbCa01710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:37:12 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:37:12 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: cell phone directory Message-ID: <20021110153712.C1662@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> <20021109195856.C04AE7C3D@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCD6EB9.B40EA720@valstar.net> <20021109223316.B29178@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021109174244.00b5ae00@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109174244.00b5ae00@mail.panax.com>; from cwv@PANAX.COM on Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 05:45:29PM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 05:45:29PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: = At 10:33 PM 11/9/2002 +0100, stevie wrote: = = >Get with it Aly! When someone gives you their number, it's = >important. = = Where is it written (other than by you) that simply because some other = entity provides a telephone number that it is important? That entity = providing the number could easily be the world's biggest idiot, simply = wanting to jabber in your ear (or sell you something, or get you to donate = to some cause). = = cwv Ok, so it's not always important. But when someone gives me their number and I expect to have to call them back, you can bet I'm going to try and put it down somewhere not likely to be thrown away. Since most of the new numbers I get go directly into my mobile you can bet that I back the phone up to the computer on a regular basis. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 08:55:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAEtfwA021545 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:55:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F2FBD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 9:54:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3506159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:54:53 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAEsq528406 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:54:52 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5D001N183F6X@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:54:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 08:56:06 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Citing Religious Books To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCE7386.3010301@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Amy Burns Short wrote: > On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > > >>"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> >>>I did. There is also evidence that that God is trinitarian, not single. >>> >>Cite. >> > > > >>The New Oxford Annotated Bible, Oxford University Press with Apocrypha >> > 0-19-528356-2 > > > >>Bethany >> > > > > A student e-mailed me asking how to MLA-cite holy books -- the bible et al. > > Anyone have a quick answer? Yes, as a matter of fact: http://www.wsu.edu/~delahoyd/bible.doc.html For general MLA format info for my students, I like Purdue's site: http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/research/r_mla.html -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 09:42:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAFgnwA021739 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:42:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044A7F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 10:42:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3507123 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:42:01 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAFg1532114 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:42:01 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust36.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.38]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:42:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE7EE2.43735752@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:44:34 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No mail yet :-( References: <200211100803.gAA83Z502004@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > Have you send any yet? Just had a session with an earthlink rep > complaining about their system. Was told it was MY computer doing it! > HA Works everywhere else ok. She logged off before I could get a > satisfactory answer. Just subscribed again to words-l, therefor this > message. Keeping my fingers crossed. I MISS y'all! Theo We are receiving your mail, Theo, and have sent at least three private posts to you, too. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 09:43:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAFhjwA021763 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:43:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A7F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 10:42:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3507143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:42:56 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAFgu532181 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:42:56 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust36.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.38]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE7F18.39F8FFE7@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:45:28 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Where's my mail? References: <200211100851.gAA8pN504844@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > Ally, I never got your test message, but I just got through complaining, > and lo and behold, there you are! All of you even. > Hopefully it will keep doing this, but I'm getting good at complaining! > Thankful at last, Theo Good. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 09:47:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAFlTwA021830 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:47:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044A825@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 10:46:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3507244 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:46:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAFkf532460 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:46:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust36.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.38]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:46:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCE7FF9.1073DDAB@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:49:13 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: <3DDED6DC@webmail.utk.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > aluce: > > >You are telling me that if something is in a book, it makes it true? > > No, that is not what I said. I asked you for evidence and you gave me a book name and ISBN number. So if you don't mean that what is in the book is evidence, do you mean that the existence of the bookk itself is the evidence? Sorry, I can't buy that. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 10:18:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAGIFwA021954 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:18:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044A971@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3508431 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from quark.look.ca (quark.look.ca [207.136.80.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAGHR503611 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:17:27 -0500 Received: from on-tor-blr-a58-03-187.look.ca ([216.154.11.187]) by quark.look.ca with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 18Auly-0005vM-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:17:19 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.20021110105949.2f374430@mail.look.ca> X-Sender: jemcinto@mail.look.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:59:49 To: English Language Discussion Group From: James McIntosh In-Reply-To: <20021110152500.A1662@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021108215142.GH16227@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021107104932.00a00760@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021107192509.GB12137@pobox.com> <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108215142.GH16227@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Winona Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.6 required=6.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,INVALID_DATE,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:25 PM 11/10/02 +0100, stevie wrote: >More like, how many mediocre programmers do I see putting one >stitch of a comment into their code. Certainly some of them do, >but the last bit I saw was completely devoid. When I worked at a company named A.D.P. (Automatic Data Processing), I added for each file used by the program a one line comment identifying the file's name and purpose. Not two or three lines, just one. During their change management, they noticed this and were furious. They said that any of their employees who had been there for 6 months would have learned that sort of information already, and so the comments were unnecessary. They said that I, a contract programmer, was paid to program, not write comments. They paid for my time in deleting the comments, and terminated my contract. Are the managers in your organization willing to support programmers who include comments ? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 10:50:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAGoewA022139 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:50:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044AB4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 11:49:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:49:51 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAGnp506081 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:49:51 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gAAGpN502044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:51:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:51:22 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Winona Message-ID: <20021110175122.A2034@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021107204540.A24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107194615.GE12137@pobox.com> <20021107210110.B24659@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021107214105.GA1127@pobox.com> <20021108073651.A25825@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108204139.GC16227@pobox.com> <20021108220354.A27093@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021108215142.GH16227@pobox.com> <20021110152500.A1662@yoccoz.multinix.com> <3.0.6.16.20021110105949.2f374430@mail.look.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20021110105949.2f374430@mail.look.ca>; from jemcinto@IDIRECT.CA on Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 11:17:27AM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = Are the managers in your organization willing to support programmers who = include comments ? Thanks for telling me a story where somthing was obviously worse! The managers don't look at the code. So I would say the answer is yes. And there probably are comments in the code, just not this bit that I was looking at, and it was, admittedly, fresh. Stuff I write doensn't always have comments in it the first time through either. This lack of baseline is about ownership and control, and a consultant methodology that ensures that System Itegrators remain in control. Besides, I don't work for a software house, I work for a marketing company. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 11:06:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAH6uwA022214 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:06:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F33D8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 12:06:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3509560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:06:03 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAH62507284 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:06:02 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.64]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5DE2803.72P for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:03:44 -0700 Message-ID: <3DCE91BD.8058B31@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:05:01 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: After JMW's own heart References: <3DCB14E6.50504@swbell.net> <3DCB193A.23CB4257@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DCC41A2.1030800@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > Hey, you could have thought of Joe and Jim and some other J's at the > > same time! 8-) > > > > No, no, this kid is definitely you at 15. No, the first term paper I ever wrote was on the Republic P-47. I remember it clearly because the teacher was a newly-minted grad from Ball State and she marked me down because she didn't believe there was such a word as "extant". JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 12:22:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAIM9wA023149 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:22:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F3647@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 13:21:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3511485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:21:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe43.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.15]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAILJ513449 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:21:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:20:29 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.66] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Research Papers Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:24:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2002 18:20:29.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9755970:01C288E5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > No, the first term paper I ever wrote was on the Republic P-47. I remember it clearly because the teacher was a newly-minted grad from Ball State and she marked me down because she didn't believe there was such a word as "extant". >JMW My first research paper was on Vincent van Gogh. AS (and thanks, Rita, for the links) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 12:26:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAIQ4wA023164 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:26:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044AFE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 13:25:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3511609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:25:14 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAIPE513852 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:25:14 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust36.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.38]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:25:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEA521.676A10B@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:27:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Amy Burns Short wrote: > > > My first research paper was on Vincent van Gogh. Mine was on the Komsomol. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 12:27:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAIRvwA023174 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:27:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044AFEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 13:27:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3511652 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:27:07 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAIR7514004 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:27:07 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021110182702.SANY25908.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:27:02 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110084155.02eefec0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:26:56 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Citing Religious Books In-Reply-To: <3DCE7386.3010301@swbell.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman writes, >For general MLA format info for my students, I like Purdue's >site: Thanks! I wanted to contribute a pointer to a styleguide/how-to for writing "good business documents" for the linked, on-screen environment of the Web. The site itself is a little bit dated, but I think it's still a useful resource. http://www.gooddocuments.com/ Hmm, since that also covers web usability, I have to include a pointer to my favorite book on that topic: http://www.istori.com/cgi-bin/wiki?Don't_Make_Me_Think The techniques in the book used to present crisply and effectively in an audience-based way are useful in any sort of presentation, not just web pages. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 12:59:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAIx1wA023562 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 12:59:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044B1B5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 13:58:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3512341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:58:12 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAIwB516652 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:58:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust36.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.38]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:58:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEACDA.394E2881@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:00:42 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: tasteless and funny Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Send a telegram to a dead person. http://www.afterlifetelegrams.com/AFTERLIFE/ -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 13:02:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAJ26wA023637 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:02:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044B1E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 14:01:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3512458 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:01:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAJ1G516979 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:01:16 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-132.panax.com [63.163.41.132]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAJ1Et12613 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:01:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:00:55 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <3DCEA521.676A10B@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Amy Burns Short wrote: > > My first research paper was on Vincent van Gogh. > >Mine was on the Komsomol. >alyce Mine was on T.S. Eliot's The Cocktail Party. I wanted to write on The Wasteland. But the teacher said I was too young for that. --bonniev, a melancholy teeenager From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 13:10:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAJAVwA023916 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:10:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044B28A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 14:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3512780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:09:41 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAJ9f517768 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:09:41 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021110190936.PKNU3205.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:09:36 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110110654.021a9070@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:09:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Watchful Eye on the Military Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This one's for 'Al, from : GlobalSecurity.org [1] calls itself the "foremost independent source of information and analysis of the U.S. campaign against terrorism". It is an information-rich resource for following news about military actions [2] or for finding out about military and government installations around the world -- Diego Garcia [3], for example. Among other things, they support the use of commercial satellite imagery for independent intelligence assessments, and have collected some very interesting examples in their GlobalSecurity Picture of the Week [4] section. Pete [1] http://www.globalsecurity.org/ [2] http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2002/index-11.htm [3] http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/diego-garcia-pix.htm [4] http://www.globalsecurity.org/eye/pic-2002.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 13:22:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAJM2wA023980 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:22:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044B2FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 14:21:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3512811 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:21:12 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAJBC517903 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:11:12 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAAJBCPd029964 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:11:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:11:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCE7FF9.1073DDAB@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >I asked you for evidence and you gave me a book name and ISBN number. So >if you don't mean that what is in the book is evidence, do you mean that >the existence of the bookk itself is the evidence? Sorry, I can't buy >that. Can you be more explicit please? Evidence of what? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 13:33:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAJXuwA024046 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:33:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044B37B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 14:33:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:33:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BwxGUYvpmx9FoDoJEwLU0uKop4D2ozqG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAJN7518794 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:23:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1602FF27 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:23:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F08BC7C49; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:23:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 10, 2002 2:11:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 11:23:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110192305.F08BC7C49@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: > > >I asked you for evidence and you gave me a book name and ISBN number. So > >if you don't mean that what is in the book is evidence, do you mean that > >the existence of the bookk itself is the evidence? Sorry, I can't buy > >that. > > Can you be more explicit please? Evidence of what? LOL. I'm so glad I'm not in this one. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 13:49:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAJmxwA024510 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 13:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044B421@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 14:48:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3513886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:48:09 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAJm9521062 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:48:09 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust36.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.38]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:48:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEB88F.E07C5911@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 14:50:39 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > Can you be more explicit please? Evidence of what? Sheesh. Forget it. You want to play games? Find someone else to play with. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 15:05:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAL58wA024941 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:05:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044B873@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 16:04:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3515528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:04:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAKsH526239 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:54:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAAKsFPd011036 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:54:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:54:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCEB88F.E07C5911@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> > >> Can you be more explicit please? Evidence of what? > >Sheesh. Forget it. You want to play games? Find someone else to play >with. No, I do NOT want to play games. That's why I value explicitness. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 15:16:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAALG8wA024994 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:16:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044B8C9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 16:15:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:15:17 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAALFH527938 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:15:17 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust36.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.38]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:15:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCECCF9.174D3813@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:17:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > No, I do NOT want to play games. That's why I value explicitness. I repeat. Sheesh. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 15:28:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAALS4wA025017 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:28:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044B9CF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 16:27:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3516434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:27:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAALHE528139 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:17:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAALHDPd019587 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:17:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:17:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCECCF9.174D3813@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >> No, I do NOT want to play games. That's why I value explicitness. > >I repeat. Sheesh. alyce, I hope that you enjoy your little game - whatever it is. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 16:32:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAMWfwA025278 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:32:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044BEA7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 17:31:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3518223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:31:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAMLo532751 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:21:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAAMLmPd011118; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:21:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:21:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor asked for my definition of the word Christian. A distinction needs to be made between the word 'Christian' as applied to a person (we can speak of a 'Christian person' or a 'Christian', and substantively mean the same thing) and as applied to non-persons (e.g., a YMCA). A Christian person is one who is in the process of being transformed. Often it is wrongly thought that a Christian person is one who is *already* transformed, and this cannot be true except in a proleptic (even now-not yet) sense. In the process of transformation, we empty best by filling, rather than by spilling. That is suggested in the parable of the man from whom demons had been driven who left the house empty, found 7 others, and returned. The message is: "I cannot be transformed by emptying myself of my sin, but only by the attractiveness of being filled with God." (See Matthew 12:43-45 and Luke 11:24-26.) In more narrowly theological terms, a Christian person is one who has been adopted by God and made a member of Christ's body, the Church (for Episcopal language, see Catchism, BCP, p. 858). The sacrament by which that adoption occurs is Holy Baptism, the outward and visible sign of the sacrament. Baptism may occur in a variety of ways - with water and in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit - or with words only in an emergency situation - or, with no outward and visible sign. Theology has acknowledged the 'baptism of desire' and the 'baptism of blood.' To think it funny (do you mean "out-of-character," "rather than "odd" or "humorous"?) that the YMCA allows wiccan meetings, you appear to fall into the trap of the doctrinalization of Christianity. I.e., you appear to accept the false premise that true doctrine means true Christianity. (See Sarah Coakley's _Powers and Submissions_.) To get from Christian-as-being-in-process-person to Christian-as-being-in-process-institution when one's basic understanding is of Christian-as-end-product-person requires a lot of teaching and steps. It is the old saw about the Church being a hospital for sinners and not a hotel for saints. What I find specifically narrow about your conception, Natalie, is the implicit idea that a Christian organization should ban all those with different beliefs about the path. Banning is not an important part of Christianity - though it is, of course, an important part of the Roman Catholic church and some fundamentalist sects - no institutions are perfect - because 'banning' is, of course, part and parcel of the doctrinalization of Christianity - see above. Further, I think that your view of faith is frozen at a very primitive and childish (literal) level, one which you appear to have rejected. When you first posted about "furry little bodies" and multiple gods looking for their own, I started to write, "I love it when you sound like you are 12 years old." I did not - primarily because I do NOT love it when you sound like you are 12 years old. I hate it. Both faith and spirituality can develop and grow. If you are interested in this topic, you might look at: _The Birth of the Living God_ by Ana Maria Rizzuto (an Argentinean psychoanalsyt) _Stages of Faith_ by James Fowler _Changing Life Patterns: Adult development in Spiritual Direction_ by Elizabeth Liebert Bethany (who consulted with her Spiritual Director as she composed this response, co-authored by the two of us) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 16:35:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAMZ9wA025289 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:35:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044BEED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 17:34:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:34:18 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail108.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAMYH501459 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:34:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.215]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110223559.UYMT15021.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:35:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:34:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm amazed that so many of you remember this stuff. I have no idea what my first research paper was on. Among the ones I remember writing in high school were one on Winston Churchill's speeches and one on Tennessee Williams. I don't know which of those was first, and I'm sure there were others. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 16:45:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAMjGwA025337 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:45:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044BFE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 17:44:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:44:24 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAMiO502274 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:44:24 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-75.panax.com [65.114.190.75]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAMiMt13182 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:44:22 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110174320.00b6f778@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:44:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: a different take from NIGERIA In-Reply-To: <3DCEB88F.E07C5911@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:50 PM 11/10/2002 -0500, alyce wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > > > > Can you be more explicit please? Evidence of what? > >Sheesh. Forget it. You want to play games? Find someone else to play >with. It is entirely possible that she is not playing games. She may truly be that dense. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 16:49:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAMniwA025352 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:49:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044C054@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 17:48:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520191 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:48:53 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAMmr502589 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:48:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.179]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110225035.FAUP7350.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:48:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > A Christian person is one who is in the process of being transformed. > Often it is wrongly thought that a Christian person is one who is > *already* transformed, and this cannot be true except in a proleptic (even > now-not yet) sense. > > In the process of transformation, we empty best by filling, rather than by > spilling. That is suggested in the parable of the man from whom demons had > been driven who left the house empty, found 7 others, and returned. The > message is: "I cannot be transformed by emptying myself of my sin, but > only by the attractiveness of being filled with God." (See Matthew > 12:43-45 and Luke 11:24-26.) Then I can see why you guessed that I have a narrow definition of Christian. I've assumed that a Christian had to have some interest in Christ. Millions of people are in the process of being transformed as you've described it above, including those who would be mightily surprised to be called Christian. > To think it funny (do you mean "out-of-character," "rather than "odd" or > "humorous"?) that the YMCA allows wiccan meetings, you appear to fall into > the trap of the doctrinalization of Christianity. I.e., you appear to > accept the false premise that true doctrine means true Christianity. Huh? I don't think it funny in any sense that the YMCA *allows* the meetings. I can't imagine why they wouldn't. What I think is funny is that the pagan/wiccan club chooses that setting for their meetings. Not -- just funny. > What I find specifically narrow about your conception, Natalie, is the > implicit idea that a Christian organization should ban all those with > different beliefs about the path. Banning is not an important part of What I find way weird is that you thought that was what I meant! I've known of many cases in my life of Christian churches inviting people of other beliefs to use their facilities -- like a Jewish group needs a meeting place while trying to build a synagogue, so they use the Methodist church since their meetings are on different days. Etc. etc. > Further, I think that your view of faith is frozen at a very primitive and > childish (literal) level, one which you appear to have rejected. When you I'm not convinced that you know anything at all about my religious beliefs, but I do think this is funny: > first posted about "furry little bodies" and multiple gods looking for > their own, I started to write, "I love it when you sound like you are 12 > years old." I did not - primarily because I do NOT love it when you sound > like you are 12 years old. I hate it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 16:52:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAMq5wA025360 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:52:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044C08A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 17:51:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3519927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:51:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAMfE502016 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:41:14 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAAMfCPd018191 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:41:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I'm amazed that so many of you remember this stuff. I have no idea what The earliest I recall were from jr. high school science classes. One was on absolute zero. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 16:58:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAMwLwA025375 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:58:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044C120@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 17:57:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3520582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:57:30 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAMvT503417 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:57:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.91]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110225911.PODG1186.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:59:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEE453.548BDF65@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:57:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > The earliest I recall were from jr. high school science classes. One was > on absolute zero. I remember writing one on cotton seed in seventh-grade science. I quoted my Daddy in it as a . Can't remember what other sources I used. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:03:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAN3NwA025414 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:03:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044C1BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:02:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:02:32 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail006.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.26]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAN2W504072 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:02:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.91]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110230414.PQNC1186.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:04:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEE582.11B8F63F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:02:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Speaking of the YMCA building on campus, I'm not sure that it has anything at all to do with the YMCA anymore. The p.o. has occupied the bottom part of it for all the years I've been here (space rented from the university by the US postal service). The Philosophy Dept used to occupy one of the floors, but they moved to a little house across campus several years ago. That leaves the Counseling Center and I'm not sure what else, if anything, in that building. There's also a small auditorium that is sometimes used for showing films. Iow, I don't know what the YMCA has to do with anything. And re finding it funny that the pagan/wiccans choose that building, I realize that there are some people who profess to be both pagan/wiccan and xtian. What makes the thought funny, though, of the pagans meeting in the YMCA building is the traditional use of the term "pagan" within xtianity. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:06:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAN61wA025423 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:06:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F430F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:05:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:05:10 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAN5A504341 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:05:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.91]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110230652.PRUR1186.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:06:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEE61F.22CD1B74@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:05:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: The Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Apparently the building is inhabited by only these three entities: U.S. Post Office Office of Student Life (whatever that is) Counseling Center http://msuinfo.ur.msstate.edu/where/building/ymca.htm -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:08:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAAN8lwA025437 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:08:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F431E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:07:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:07:56 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAN7u504519 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:07:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.91]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110230937.PTLQ1186.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:09:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEE6C5.7D1F1372@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:07:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > To think it funny (do you mean "out-of-character," "rather than "odd" or > > "humorous"?) that the YMCA allows wiccan meetings, you appear to fall into > > the trap of the doctrinalization of Christianity. I.e., you appear to > > accept the false premise that true doctrine means true Christianity. > > Huh? I don't think it funny in any sense that the YMCA *allows* the > meetings. I can't imagine why they wouldn't. What I think is funny is > that the pagan/wiccan club chooses that setting for their meetings. Not > -- just funny. I forgot to answer your parenthetical question: Humorous. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:14:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAANEFwA025452 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:14:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4358@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:13:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:13:24 -0500 Received: from imf06bis.bellsouth.net (mail106.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.46]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANDO505106 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:13:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.91]) by imf06bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110231505.PWSR1186.imf06bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:15:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEE80C.83C95506@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:13:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I've > known of many cases in my life of Christian churches inviting people of > other beliefs to use their facilities -- like a Jewish group needs a > meeting place while trying to build a synagogue, so they use the > Methodist church since their meetings are on different days. Etc. etc. Have I mentioned before the cute little combination church/synagogue I saw in a tiny town in New Zealand? I was looking at it, admiring it as an old, wooden, cute building of the kind I like, when suddenly I noticed that it had a cross on top and a star of david on a huge window in front. So I asked somebody about it and was told that the Christians and Jews built it together many years ago because neither group could afford to build a decent building alone. It is still owned by and used by both groups. And speaking of such sharing, my mother's church in Huntsville shares a parking lot with the synagogue next door since they don't need it at the same time, and when the church was demolished by a tornado a number of years ago, they held sunday school and church in the synagogue for over a year while rebuilding. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:16:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAANGWwA025481 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:16:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4371@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:15:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3521314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:15:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:uiFSd8c/2pgVxbFNize78UT7m1qhN5VD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAAN5b504385 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:05:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EA72FEC0 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 97E657C40; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:05:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEE582.11B8F63F@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 5: 2:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:05:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110230536.97E657C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > What makes the thought funny, though, of the pagans meeting > in the YMCA building is the traditional use of the term "pagan" within > xtianity. Like buying pagan babies. But I guess that's Catholic. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:28:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAANSSwA025524 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:28:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044C407@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:27:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3522120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:27:33 -0500 Received: from imf16bis.bellsouth.net (mail016.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANRX506352 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:27:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.72]) by imf16bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021110232915.RXAG21673.imf16bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:29:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEEB5F.F53A1C8E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:27:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <20021110230536.97E657C40@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Like buying pagan babies. But I guess that's Catholic. I don't think I know about buying pagan babies. Meanwhile, though, the bottom has majorly fallen out, and cats and dogs are being tossed furiously everywhere with thunder rumbling angrily. I knew to expect this. Strange weather day -- in the 80s but with the promise of major chunk-floating, gulley-washing, toad-strangling rains coming tonight and then cooler tomorrow. I hope the promised cold keeps my grass from getting all revved up by the rain. I think it will be ok. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:44:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAANiwwA025592 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:44:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044C597@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:44:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3522624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:44:06 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANi6507654 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:44:06 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust110.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.112]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:44:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEEFD9.567B2F15@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:46:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > What I find specifically narrow about your conception, Natalie, is the > implicit idea that a Christian organization should ban all those with > different beliefs about the path. I never heard Natalie say anything of the sort. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:48:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAANmFwA025621 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:48:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F450F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:47:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3522402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:47:23 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+NNZHtBxyBSZ5YrhBBTevxnoSkxzZk8v@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANbN507091 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:37:23 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135382FEC2 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC5647C42; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:37:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEEB5F.F53A1C8E@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 5:27:27 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:37:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110233722.DC5647C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Like buying pagan babies. But I guess that's Catholic. > > I don't think I know about buying pagan babies. http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/6647/paganbabies.html This is an interesting twist on the practice, because some of those pagan babies *were* Indians. > Meanwhile, though, the bottom has majorly fallen out, Of what? > I hope the promised cold keeps my grass from > getting all revved up by the rain. I think it will be ok. We have a week of NO RAIN in the forecast. I'm doing more transplanting. Harvested about 8 tomatoes, and more are on the way--I hope. New blossoms on the plants, anyway. And lettuce and bok choy and arugala and sorrel and... and... I think maybe that's it. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 17:51:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAANpOwA025635 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:51:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4521@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:50:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3522511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:50:32 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANeW507361 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:40:32 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAANeUPd005753 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:40:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:40:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Then I can see why you guessed that I have a narrow definition of >Christian. I've assumed that a Christian had to have some interest in >Christ. Millions of people are in the process of being transformed as >you've described it above, including those who would be mightily >surprised to be called Christian. I don't think you are really that dense, Natalie. What game are you playing? Are you a Christian? Whether you are or not, what is YOUR definition? Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:00:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB009wA025680 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:00:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044C72F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:59:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3522749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:59:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANnH508094 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:49:17 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAANnFPd008781 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:49:15 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:49:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEEFD9.567B2F15@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >"Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: >> >> What I find specifically narrow about your conception, Natalie, is the >> implicit idea that a Christian organization should ban all those with >> different beliefs about the path. > >I never heard Natalie say anything of the sort. Good - that's because she didn't. As I said above, she appeared to IMPLY it by saying there was something about a wiccan group meeting at a YMCA. Of course, it now develops that they do NOT meet at a YMCA - they meet in a YMCA BUILDING - a very different situation. Further, she has now clarified what she did not make clear earlier, which is that it's the wiccan group's choice that she finds weird, not the YMCA's choice. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:00:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB00iwA025683 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:00:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4587@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 18:59:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3523155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:59:52 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail102.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANxq509128 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:59:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.9]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111000134.XQQN1202.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:01:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEF2EF.3A6E30C5@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:59:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <20021110233722.DC5647C42@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't think I know about buying pagan babies. > > http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/6647/paganbabies.html I'm glad I decided to chase the url! I'm ROFLing. > This is an interesting twist on the practice, because some of those > pagan babies *were* Indians. Wait -- some of what pagan babies? > > Meanwhile, though, the bottom has majorly fallen out, > > Of what? The heavens. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB097wA025709 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:09:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044C81D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:08:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3523098 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:08:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lmAuLE97QuE3jkcVjysViXYAMNhcIrB1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAANwG508969 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:58:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7142FDF1 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:58:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B76C67C43; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:58:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: The dogs next door To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:58:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021110235815.B76C67C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The bimbo dogs next door are moving out! The husband just up and left after 30 years of marriage; according to the wife, he didn't like having three teenagers. She can't afford to keep the house and he won't support them, so they have to move into an apt. The girls are each taking a cat, but that leaves one cat and one dog left over. I said that I'd feed the one cat, if they can't find anyone to take it, since it never comes in the house. I was very tempted to take the dog, named Cuddles, because it really is, but it would make me insane within a week. It's not clear what's going to happen to the house; it's not ready to put on the market yet. Now if I can only get the annoying dogs in back to move out... Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:16:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0GCwA025762 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:16:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044C89D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:15:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3523544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:15:20 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0FK510151 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:15:20 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust110.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.112]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:15:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEF72A.AC5879E8@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:17:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Thieving birds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Funny and true, with pictures http://tsbolton.com/bertramslair/birds.htm alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:19:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0J4wA025770 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:19:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F462A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:18:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3523663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:18:12 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0IC510372 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:18:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.160.37]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111001954.JQMJ3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:19:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEF73E.9C36E54D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:18:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Then I can see why you guessed that I have a narrow definition of > >Christian. I've assumed that a Christian had to have some interest in > >Christ. Millions of people are in the process of being transformed as > >you've described it above, including those who would be mightily > >surprised to be called Christian. > > I don't think you are really that dense, Natalie. What game are you > playing? I'm not playing any game. What you described is what I would call spiritual growth. I didn't see anything in what you said to tie it to a particular religion, other than that you said "see [the New Testament]" for support. > Are you a Christian? Whether you are or not, what is YOUR definition? The answer to the first question depends on the answer to the second, of course. I'm definitely not the kind of Christian who thinks that poor, little pagan babies are going to hell. Iow, I'm not the kind of Christian who thinks that xtianity is the one true religion. Some of my Japanese friends told me that they don't understand the idea of having just one religion. I agreed with them totally. If being a Christian means that I have to think that's the only acceptable religion, then my answer is no. And if being a Christian means believing literally that God impregnated Mary, resulting in the birth of Jesus, then I'm not one. I don't believe that any more than I think Zeus turned himself into a swan to with Leda. I do, however, find the Christ metaphor good. And I'm happy to have grown up in a very liberal Methodist church. I remember as a teenager standing beside the coke machine in the basement one time between Sunday School and church and asking one of the preachers who was standing there if he thought that to be a Christian you had to believe in things like the virgin birth. He said, "Of course not. That's a metaphor." So yes, I'm that kind of Christian. I just realized that I probably haven't answered your second question clearly. And I've got to go into the kitchen because the dinger just dinged. My personal definition of Christian in the sense of saying that I am one is somebody who finds the Jesus metaphor good. And I don't, btw, see that sprinkling water on heads or dunking bodies into water is of any importance whatsoever. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:38:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0cmwA025874 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:38:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044C977@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:37:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:37:56 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0bu511594 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:37:56 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.60]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111003938.OPDS24556.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:39:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCEFBDA.A17EEDCC@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:37:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Merde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Just as I was settling back into e-mail, the tornado sirens started wailing. That usually means one has been sighted. Guess I'd better try to find out what's happening and take Spencer into the bathroom closet if it's really serious. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:44:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0iJwA025894 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:44:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4712@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:43:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:43:26 -0500 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0hQ511964 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:43:26 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.7b.1cf7e8e (18251) for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:43:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.1cf7e8e.2b00572b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:43:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Merde To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2002 6:38:13 PM Central Standard Time, natalie@MAYNOR.NET writes: << Guess I'd better try to find out what's happening and take Spencer into the bathroom closet if it's really serious. >> When we had that big storm in May, 1999, we tried putting Brandy into my bathroom, but the poor little boy couldn't understand why he had to hide there. I still miss him; I think he died too soon. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:51:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0phwA025939 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:51:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CA94@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:50:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524509 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:50:51 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0op512439 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:50:51 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5D001ELZOQCU@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:50:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:52:04 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCEFF34.2070502@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > >>A Christian person is one who is in the process of being transformed. >>Often it is wrongly thought that a Christian person is one who is >>*already* transformed, and this cannot be true except in a proleptic (even >>now-not yet) sense. >> >>In the process of transformation, we empty best by filling, rather than by >>spilling. That is suggested in the parable of the man from whom demons had >>been driven who left the house empty, found 7 others, and returned. The >>message is: "I cannot be transformed by emptying myself of my sin, but >>only by the attractiveness of being filled with God." (See Matthew >>12:43-45 and Luke 11:24-26.) >> > > Then I can see why you guessed that I have a narrow definition of > Christian. I've assumed that a Christian had to have some interest in > Christ. Millions of people are in the process of being transformed as > you've described it above, including those who would be mightily > surprised to be called Christian. I'd go with the whole baptized thing as the most basic definition of Christian or not, but that's just me (unless the person in question has renounced or converted). > >>To think it funny (do you mean "out-of-character," "rather than "odd" or >>"humorous"?) that the YMCA allows wiccan meetings, you appear to fall into >>the trap of the doctrinalization of Christianity. I.e., you appear to >>accept the false premise that true doctrine means true Christianity. >> > > Huh? I don't think it funny in any sense that the YMCA *allows* the > meetings. I can't imagine why they wouldn't. What I think is funny is > that the pagan/wiccan club chooses that setting for their meetings. Not > -- just funny. Vaguely ironic is how I'd think of it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:53:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0r5wA025943 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:53:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044CAAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:52:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524293 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:52:13 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Y72qFy/9o6FAxp4jqBe4SGXlaH3G+ZtP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0gD511882 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:42:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157E62FE85 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D51797C41; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:42:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Merde In-Reply-To: <3DCEFBDA.A17EEDCC@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 6:37:46 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 16:42:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111004212.D51797C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Just as I was settling back into e-mail, the tornado sirens started > wailing. That usually means one has been sighted. Guess I'd better try > to find out what's happening and take Spencer into the bathroom closet > if it's really serious. Hm. I have no interior rooms. I don't know what I'd do in a tornado. Where do the tornado sirens sing from? Fire stations? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:56:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0uiwA025959 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:56:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044CB10@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:55:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524651 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:55:52 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0tq512713 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:55:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.26]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111005735.LWKD1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:57:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF000F.17B3BF2C@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:55:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >> What I find specifically narrow about your conception, Natalie, is the > >> implicit idea that a Christian organization should ban all those with > >> different beliefs about the path. > > > >I never heard Natalie say anything of the sort. > > Good - that's because she didn't. As I said above, she appeared to IMPLY > it by saying there was something about a wiccan group meeting at > a YMCA. "Appeared to imply" means *you* inferred it. I think that says much more about you than it does about me. I find it bizarre that you made that assumption, but I must admit that I would find it funny regardless of who decided where they would meet since what was funny to me was the YMCA-Pagan connection. > Of course, it now develops that they do NOT meet at a YMCA - they > meet in a YMCA BUILDING - a very different situation. Indeed! ROFL. > Further, she has now > clarified what she did not make clear earlier, which is that it's the > wiccan group's choice that she finds weird, not the YMCA's choice. See above. I've never heard of a group sitting around waiting for bids for it. Usually the group decides on a possible meeting place and then gets permission to meet there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:57:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0vBwA025962 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:57:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F47AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:56:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:56:19 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0uJ512746 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:56:19 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.65.201.231]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5D00156ZXU88@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:56:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:57:32 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Research Papers To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF007C.6050107@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm amazed that so many of you remember this stuff. I have no idea what > my first research paper was on. Among the ones I remember writing in > high school were one on Winston Churchill's speeches and one on > Tennessee Williams. I don't know which of those was first, and I'm sure > there were others. I don't even remember any of the papers I wrote as an undergraduate. Man, my brain is for shit anymore. Did I mention I have three little nieces and/or nephews on the way? My sister-in-law is expecting twins in May, and my sister is expeccting in March. I'll be up in New England this summer for a couple of weeks at least. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 18:58:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB0wlwA025968 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:58:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F47C5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 19:57:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524740 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:57:53 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB0vr512888 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:57:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.26]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111005935.LXOP1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:59:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF008B.D2352F0D@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:57:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The dogs next door References: <20021110235815.B76C67C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > The bimbo dogs next door are moving out! The husband just up and left > after 30 years of marriage; according to the wife, he didn't like > having three teenagers. She can't afford to keep the house and he > won't support them, so they have to move into an apt. The girls are > each taking a cat, but that leaves one cat and one dog left over. I > said that I'd feed the one cat, if they can't find anyone to take it, > since it never comes in the house. I was very tempted to take the dog, > named Cuddles, because it really is, but it would make me insane > within a week. I'm getting confused. How many dogs were there among the bimbo dogs? Did the husband take one or more? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:02:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB12nwA026009 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:02:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4803@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:01:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:01:54 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB11q513293 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:01:53 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-109.panax.com [63.163.41.109]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB11ot00738 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:01:51 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110200101.009f4070@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:01:30 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <3DCF007C.6050107@swbell.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'll be up in New England >this summer for a couple of weeks at least. >Rita Acadiafest ?? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:04:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB148wA026017 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:04:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044CBF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:03:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:03:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB13G513454 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:03:16 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.1a9.bbd8021 (18251) for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:03:08 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a9.bbd8021.2b005bcb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:03:07 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Merde To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/10/2002 6:52:23 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << Where do the tornado sirens sing from? Fire stations? >> Here they do. If you're near a fire station on Wednesday at noon, you can hear the test siren. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com Vaya con queso. -- Cliff Huxtable From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:04:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB14BwA026020 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:04:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CBF7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:03:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3524975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:03:19 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB13J513459 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:03:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.26]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111010501.MBEF1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:05:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF01D0.12C798DA@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:03:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merde References: <20021111004212.D51797C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Hm. I have no interior rooms. I don't know what I'd do in a tornado. Go to the southwest corner of your house and make sure the window is open. Do your best to stay away from glass. > Where do the tornado sirens sing from? Fire stations? I'm not really sure where ours is/are. I think we have just one that's supposed to be heard all over town, but I'm not sure where it is. But I do wish that whoever decides when to turn it on would give the matter more thought. I found out that the tornadoes that have been sighted coming this way are still south of Louisville, which is thirty miles south of here. The sirens have stopped now. Maybe the turner-onner of them found out that he/she was premature. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:08:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB18ZwA026030 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:08:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044CC6C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:07:43 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB17h513764 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:07:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.26]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111010925.MEJG1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:09:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF02D8.F5FEE9D2@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:07:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> <3DCEFF34.2070502@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I'd go with the whole baptized thing as the most basic > definition of Christian or not, but that's just me (unless > the person in question has renounced or converted). So the fact that a preacher stuck his hand into a bird-bath-looking thing in the front of the church and then put it on my head when I was six months old or whatever makes me a Christian? Somehow that strikes me as strange. > > Huh? I don't think it funny in any sense that the YMCA *allows* the > > meetings. I can't imagine why they wouldn't. What I think is funny is > > that the pagan/wiccan club chooses that setting for their meetings. Not > > -- just funny. > > Vaguely ironic is how I'd think of it. Yes, that was how I found it. It's not as if I sat and laughed hysterically. This discussion of it has promoted it to a status far beyond what it was for me. It was a mild laugh at a vague irony. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:11:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1BAwA026039 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:11:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044CC7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:10:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:10:18 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1AI513929 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:10:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.26]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111011159.MGBH1279.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:11:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF0373.ED1082C9@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:10:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> <3DCF007C.6050107@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > I don't even remember any of the papers I wrote as an > undergraduate. Man, my brain is for shit anymore. If somebody asked me whether I'd ever written a paper on X, I might be able to answer, but I for sure couldn't just name the Xs. > Did I mention I have three little nieces and/or nephews on > the way? My sister-in-law is expecting twins in May, and my > sister is expeccting in March. I'll be up in New England > this summer for a couple of weeks at least. Is this the same sister who had your first niece? I remember that birth and your excitement about it. And the tornado siren has started screaming again. I think I'll ignore it. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:13:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1DKwA026050 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:13:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CC8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:12:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:12:28 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1CS514093 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:12:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5E005PE0OR99@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:12:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:13:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF0445.3060207@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> <3DCEFF34.2070502@swbell.net> <3DCF02D8.F5FEE9D2@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> I'd go with the whole baptized thing as the most basic >>definition of Christian or not, but that's just me (unless >>the person in question has renounced or converted). >> > > So the fact that a preacher stuck his hand into a bird-bath-looking > thing in the front of the church and then put it on my head when I was > six months old or whatever makes me a Christian? Somehow that strikes > me as strange. Me, too, but religion itself is pretty strange. Not a lot of logic to it. Personally, I've been baptized three times. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:15:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1FWwA026082 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:15:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044CC9F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:14:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525018 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:14:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:k9kMEYYV5NSSRyf/oJbsWZKY6UeEiIdB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB14d513544 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:04:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289952FD81 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ED0187C46; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:04:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The dogs next door In-Reply-To: <3DCF008B.D2352F0D@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 6:57:47 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:04:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111010438.ED0187C46@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > The bimbo dogs next door are moving out! The husband just up and left > > after 30 years of marriage; according to the wife, he didn't like > > having three teenagers. She can't afford to keep the house and he > > won't support them, so they have to move into an apt. The girls are > > each taking a cat, but that leaves one cat and one dog left over. I > > said that I'd feed the one cat, if they can't find anyone to take it, > > since it never comes in the house. I was very tempted to take the dog, > > named Cuddles, because it really is, but it would make me insane > > within a week. > > I'm getting confused. How many dogs were there among the bimbo dogs? > Did the husband take one or more? The husband took none. There were 3--1 ran away. Now there's a big one and a little one. The little one is named Cuddles. They had 4 cats, but the nicest one ran away (or was stolen), and now they have 3. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:16:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1GNwA026086 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:16:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044CCA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:15:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:15:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:nO0Cj+xhdagbdLwFPY7Gd7ixv/swGGu8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB15U513639 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:05:30 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A932A2FDC1 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7F2817C43; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:05:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Merde In-Reply-To: <3DCF01D0.12C798DA@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 7: 3:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:05:29 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111010529.7F2817C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Hm. I have no interior rooms. I don't know what I'd do in a tornado. > > Go to the southwest corner of your house and make sure the window is > open. Do your best to stay away from glass. Thanks. That's the room I'd've chosen. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:17:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1HWwA026116 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:17:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CCAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:16:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525326 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:16:40 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1Ge514430 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:16:40 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5E0050R0VR4U@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:16:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:17:54 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Research Papers To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF0542.4070009@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> <3DCF007C.6050107@swbell.net> <3DCF0373.ED1082C9@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Rita Chapman wrote: > > >> I don't even remember any of the papers I wrote as an >>undergraduate. Man, my brain is for shit anymore. >> > > If somebody asked me whether I'd ever written a paper on X, I might be > able to answer, but I for sure couldn't just name the Xs. Nah, I wouldn't even be able to say that. My answer would be something along the lines of "Um, probably." > Is this the same sister who had your first niece? I remember that birth > and your excitement about it. Yes, but that baby is now in 4th grade and just about as tall as I am. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:17:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1HjwA026120 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:17:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4884@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:16:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:16:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Ipb8Fc9BVloGyartLASwTfjwwM8AhcXx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB16q513701 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:06:52 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2665C2FDC1 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 091C47C42; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:06:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEF2EF.3A6E30C5@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 5:59:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:06:51 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111010651.091C47C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > I don't think I know about buying pagan babies. > > > > http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/6647/paganbabies.html > > I'm glad I decided to chase the url! I'm ROFLing. > > > This is an interesting twist on the practice, because some of those > > pagan babies *were* Indians. > > Wait -- some of what pagan babies? The pagan babies we bought. > > > Meanwhile, though, the bottom has majorly fallen out, > > > > Of what? > > The heavens. > > -- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:21:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1LKwA026130 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:21:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044CCC4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:20:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525427 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:20:28 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1KS514697 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:20:28 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5E001JV123D3@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:20:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:21:41 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Research Papers To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF0625.5090601@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021110200101.009f4070@pop3.norton.antivirus> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> I'll be up in New England >> this summer for a couple of weeks at least. >> Rita > > > Acadiafest ?? > Quite possible. I have to take classes to finish my masters this summer, but I don't see how I'm going to do it. I'm tempted to take the summer off from *everything* this year. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:23:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1NEwA026136 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:23:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044CCCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:22:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:22:22 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1MM514804 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:22:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.26]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111012404.LJGG3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF0647.E9FE68D1@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:22:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The dogs next door References: <20021111010438.ED0187C46@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > The bimbo dogs next door are moving out! The husband just up and left > > > after 30 years of marriage; according to the wife, he didn't like > > > having three teenagers. She can't afford to keep the house and he > > > won't support them, so they have to move into an apt. The girls are > > > each taking a cat, but that leaves one cat and one dog left over. I > > > said that I'd feed the one cat, if they can't find anyone to take it, > > > since it never comes in the house. I was very tempted to take the dog, > > > named Cuddles, because it really is, but it would make me insane > > > within a week. > > > > I'm getting confused. How many dogs were there among the bimbo dogs? > > Did the husband take one or more? > > The husband took none. There were 3--1 ran away. Now there's a big > one and a little one. The little one is named Cuddles. They had 4 > cats, but the nicest one ran away (or was stolen), and now they have > 3. I'm still confused. Of the original three dogs, one ran away, leaving two. If nobody in the family is taking a dog, how can there be just one cat and one dog left over? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:24:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1OgwA026148 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:24:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CCD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:23:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:23:49 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1Nn514861 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:23:49 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.26]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111012531.LKEW3483.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:25:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF069F.C467585B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:23:43 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <20021111010651.091C47C42@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Wait -- some of what pagan babies? > > The pagan babies we bought. So you actually did this? And you knew details about the pagan babies? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:27:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1RvwA026168 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:27:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CCE9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:27:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525569 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:27:04 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1R4515080 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:27:04 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-63.panax.com [65.114.190.63]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1R2t04578 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:27:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110202550.00a027a0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:26:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <20021111010651.091C47C42@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DCEF2EF.3A6E30C5@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >The pagan babies we bought. >Karen I always pictured mine in Africa. I bought two, that I remember. We could name them. Mine were Joseph Michael and Elizabeth Marie. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:29:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1TXwA026175 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:29:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CCF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:28:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:28:41 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1Se515149 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:28:41 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-63.panax.com [65.114.190.63]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1Sdt04834 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:28:39 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110202741.009ff980@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:28:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCF0445.3060207@swbell.net> References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> <3DCEFF34.2070502@swbell.net> <3DCF02D8.F5FEE9D2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Personally, I've been baptized three times. >Rita The first two times didn't take? I've been vaccinated for smallpox three times because of that reason. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:35:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1Z8wA026215 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:35:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044CD1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:34:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:34:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:kLT6DwO1rHV0wBI3JWdCvMdGTENo1HlX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1OE514891 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:24:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776DA2FE1D for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:24:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5414B7C40; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:24:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The dogs next door In-Reply-To: <3DCF0647.E9FE68D1@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 7:22:15 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:24:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111012414.5414B7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I'm still confused. Of the original three dogs, one ran away, leaving > two. If nobody in the family is taking a dog, how can there be just one > cat and one dog left over? I don't know what's happening to the other dog. Or the son. This (obviously) wasn't a very happy family to start with, and now it's in complete disarray. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:35:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1ZuwA026223 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:35:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044CD28@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:35:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3525505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:35:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wGvgtbSayfODCYpLlQqAIcASegSHXqRJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1P3514946 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:25:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3AD2FE3D for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7A9E17C40; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:25:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCF069F.C467585B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 7:23:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:25:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111012502.7A9E17C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Wait -- some of what pagan babies? > > > > The pagan babies we bought. > > So you actually did this? Sure. I bet Bonniemae did, too. > And you knew details about the pagan babies? Well, they had different costumes. Ours were $2. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 19:51:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB1pEwA026317 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:51:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044CE91@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 20:50:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3526262 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:50:21 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1oL516905 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:50:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5E0017W2FWCQ@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:50:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:51:34 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF0D26.4050402@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> <3DCEFF34.2070502@swbell.net> <3DCF02D8.F5FEE9D2@maynor.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021110202741.009ff980@pop3.norton.antivirus> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: >> Personally, I've been baptized three times. >> Rita > > > The first two times didn't take? I've been vaccinated for smallpox three > times because of that reason. > Well, who can say, really? Maybe I should get a titer to check? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:03:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB23WwA026420 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:03:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4A16@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:02:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3526344 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:02:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:0HmuWxs25JaPY8m2Iq7lv8uyLps/KA6q@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB1q0517044 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:52:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24152FE5F for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:51:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CABAD7C40; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:51:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCF0D26.4050402@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 10, 2002 7:51:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:51:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > bonniev wrote: > > >> Personally, I've been baptized three times. > >> Rita > > > > > > The first two times didn't take? I've been vaccinated for smallpox three > > times because of that reason. > > > > > Well, who can say, really? Maybe I should get a titer to check? Aren't we all going to be revaccinated again, because of Saddam? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:11:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2BawA026463 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:11:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4A3E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:10:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3526859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:10:44 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2Ah518528 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:10:43 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5E001PB3DV89@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:10:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:11:57 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF11ED.9020402@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Rita Chapman said: > >>bonniev wrote: >> >> >>>> Personally, I've been baptized three times. >>>>Rita >>>> >>> >>>The first two times didn't take? I've been vaccinated for smallpox three >>>times because of that reason. >>> >>> >> >> Well, who can say, really? Maybe I should get a titer to check? >> > > Aren't we all going to be revaccinated again, because of Saddam? Revaccinated against hell? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:21:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2LgwA026535 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:21:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044CFC0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:20:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:20:49 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2Kn519260 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:20:49 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust61.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.63]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:20:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1492.1E5D740E@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:23:14 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merde References: <20021111004212.D51797C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Hm. I have no interior rooms. I don't know what I'd do in a tornado. Get in the bathtub. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:21:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2LrwA026539 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4A8C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:21:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail108.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2L0519276 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:21:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.58]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111022242.YXBL15021.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1404.2EB0EAB8@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:20:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Aren't we all going to be revaccinated again, because of Saddam? Well, only people who have been vaccinated more than once would be revaccinated again, right? That's me, though. Like Bonniemae, I've never had one that took. I had the one in early childhood and had to go get a note from my pediatrician every year to show the teacher at show-your-vaccination-scar time. At least until my pediatrician told me just to show my impetigo scar instead, which I did from then on, although I felt that something wasn't right about that. Then I had another vaccination before going to Europe in '69, back when the international health card was required for returning to the US. I don't know whether that one might have taken if I hadn't jumped into a swimming pool about thirty minutes after having it. That night I was eating dinner with some friends, one of whom was a doctor, and when I asked him whether I perhaps shouldn't have done that, he cringed. It seems that I put everybody else in the pool at some kind of risk. But nobody had told me that in advance. It was a hot day. Swimming was . And actually I don't think anybody else was in the pool anyway. I'm not sure what kind of risk it was I put them at. I've forgotten that part. Anyway, there was no indication that that vaccination took either. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:22:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2MQwA026545 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:22:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044CFDC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:21:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3526884 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:21:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:g6lfcc7wP1+e83p7xPqldKjfX/6unftF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2BX518594 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:11:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C434B2FD83 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 961777C40; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:11:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCF11ED.9020402@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 10, 2002 8:11:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:11:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111021132.961777C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Rita Chapman said: > > > >>bonniev wrote: > >> > >> > >>>> Personally, I've been baptized three times. > >>>>Rita > >>>> > >>> > >>>The first two times didn't take? I've been vaccinated for smallpox three > >>>times because of that reason. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Well, who can say, really? Maybe I should get a titer to check? > >> > > > > Aren't we all going to be revaccinated again, because of Saddam? > > > Revaccinated against hell? smallpox Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:22:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2MmwA026548 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:22:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4A93@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:21:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:21:55 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail008.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2Lp519352 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:21:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.58]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111022333.YXLC15021.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:23:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1438.C6F8A7A3@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:21:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Merde References: <20021111004212.D51797C41@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCF1492.1E5D740E@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > Hm. I have no interior rooms. I don't know what I'd do in a tornado. > > Get in the bathtub. Unless it's in front of a large window. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:31:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2VJwA026611 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:31:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044D0AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:30:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:30:26 -0500 Received: from imf14bis.bellsouth.net (mail014.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2UQ520007 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:30:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.243]) by imf14bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111023208.UMZG9278.imf14bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:32:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1639.BA5B64DE@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:30:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Football Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tell the UT team to be of good cheer, Bethany. I saw in today's newspaper that that's who we're playing next Saturday. I was looking at my mother's Clarion-Ledger while visiting her this afternoon and noticed a headline that sounded upbeat about our football, so I read the story. This shows you how bad we are: People were feeling good because we lost to Alabama by only fourteen points yesterday. That's a sad state of affairs, especially given that people are usually revved up about our Alabama game since we're major rivals normally (probably because of proximity -- they're the geographically closest team to us). Anyway, the newspaper story was about how wonderful it was that they got only twice as many points as we did. We are definitely a cupcake this year -- that's not the word -- creampuff? We're the kind of team one wishes to play for a pleasant vacation in the season. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:32:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2WHwA026624 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:32:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4AE3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:31:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:31:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:KOQUwlITXahIhUKObNwJfpsuKxmffMud@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2LN519324 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:21:23 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9642FEAB for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EB6267C43; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:21:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Merde In-Reply-To: <3DCF1492.1E5D740E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 10, 2002 9:23:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:21:22 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111022122.EB6267C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > Hm. I have no interior rooms. I don't know what I'd do in a tornado. > > Get in the bathtub. It's right under a window, which doesn't seem particularly safe. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:33:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2XXwA026635 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:33:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4AEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:32:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527181 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:32:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:D7NiMz1d70ZM9ZfJsvPGkF8VGo7ycVIZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2Md519469 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:22:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF042FEAB for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 186DD7C41; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:22:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCF1404.2EB0EAB8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 10, 2002 8:20:52 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:22:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111022239.186DD7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Aren't we all going to be revaccinated again, because of Saddam? > > Well, only people who have been vaccinated more than once would be > revaccinated again, right? That's me, though. Like Bonniemae, I've > never had one that took. I had the one in early childhood and had to go > get a note from my pediatrician every year to show the teacher at > show-your-vaccination-scar time. At least until my pediatrician told me > just to show my impetigo scar instead, which I did from then on, > although I felt that something wasn't right about that. Then I had > another vaccination before going to Europe in '69, back when the > international health card was required for returning to the US. I don't > know whether that one might have taken if I hadn't jumped into a > swimming pool about thirty minutes after having it. That night I was > eating dinner with some friends, one of whom was a doctor, and when I > asked him whether I perhaps shouldn't have done that, he cringed. It > seems that I put everybody else in the pool at some kind of risk. But > nobody had told me that in advance. It was a hot day. Swimming was order>. And actually I don't think anybody else was in the pool > anyway. I'm not sure what kind of risk it was I put them at. I've > forgotten that part. Anyway, there was no indication that that > vaccination took either. I don't have a scar, but I think mine (two) took. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:37:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2blwA026652 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:37:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044D151@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:36:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:36:54 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2as520441 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:36:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.176]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111023836.SCBG1195.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:38:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF17BD.81356B8B@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:36:45 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: ATT: BRADYKINS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Listen up, Bradykins! It's time for us to start talking basketball. I'm going to get to know the team this year the way I did at the end of that Final Four year. I already know that one good one is named Mario. I can't remember his last name because I keep thinking of Mario Hagan, who's a football player. This is Mario Somethingelse. (What's with all the Marios all of a sudden? Sort of like Dontae.) Mario is the one who supposedly went pro at the end of the last season but then didn't. And there's Derrick Zimmerman. I remember liking watching him on tv when I got interested in basketball for a brief time last year. He's cute. And there's Igor or some such name -- the one from Poland -- the one who lumbers about the court looking clumsy. See how good I am at this stuff? It's gonna be fun (until we bomb out and I lose interest). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:39:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2dHwA026657 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:39:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4B14@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:38:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:38:24 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2cO520562 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:38:24 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-148.panax.com [63.163.41.148]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2cLt15902 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:38:21 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110213219.00a0a200@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:37:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: swimming and vaccinations In-Reply-To: <3DCF1404.2EB0EAB8@maynor.net> References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Well, only people who have been vaccinated more than once would be >revaccinated again, right? That's me, though. Like Bonniemae, I've >never had one that took. -- Natalie My third one took. It was probably in 1968, which was shortly have I left the convent. Now I can't remember if I had it in order to take swimming or if I couldn't take swimming because I had just had it. Yes, it must have been the second because I never took swimming in Wisconsin. I did take it when I was a graduate student at UT. They played music underwater to encourage us to put out faces in the water. But I just floated on my back to hear the music. We were separated into two groups for the final exam. I was in the slow group. We had to jump in the deep end and begin to swim laps, using any combination of strokes we wanted to. One length of the pool was a D. If you swam back to the deep end, it was a C. Again, a B, and four laps would be an A. I stopped at the C. I was tired and terrified. The grade didn't matter anyway, because it was an undergraduate course and wouldn't affect my graduate grade point average. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:42:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2gcwA026670 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:42:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D1CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:41:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527688 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:41:45 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2fj520832 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:41:45 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA09352 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:41:44 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E58D438699; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:41:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:41:43 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help Message-ID: <20021111024143.GD24942@pobox.com> References: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:06:26PM -0800, Larry Clark wrote: > > What the hell does this mean? The sentence? It is meaningless. > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to > be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban > sort of way." Faint blue ambiance, preppy kids, clothes out of Urban Outfitters (or other way-zany shops), clean haircuts, Neutrogena on face. Think "spotlessness". From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:44:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2iFwA026679 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:44:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044D1F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527754 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:43:23 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2hN521007 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:43:23 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5E001K64WAD2@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:43:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:44:36 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF1994.80301@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCF1404.2EB0EAB8@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Karen Kay wrote: > > >>Aren't we all going to be revaccinated again, because of Saddam? >> > > Well, only people who have been vaccinated more than once would be > revaccinated again, right? That's me, though. Like Bonniemae, I've > never had one that took. I had the one in early childhood and had to go > get a note from my pediatrician every year to show the teacher at > show-your-vaccination-scar time. At least until my pediatrician told me > just to show my impetigo scar instead, which I did from then on, > although I felt that something wasn't right about that. Then I had > another vaccination before going to Europe in '69, back when the > international health card was required for returning to the US. I don't > know whether that one might have taken if I hadn't jumped into a > swimming pool about thirty minutes after having it. That night I was > eating dinner with some friends, one of whom was a doctor, and when I > asked him whether I perhaps shouldn't have done that, he cringed. It > seems that I put everybody else in the pool at some kind of risk. But > nobody had told me that in advance. It was a hot day. Swimming was order>. And actually I don't think anybody else was in the pool > anyway. I'm not sure what kind of risk it was I put them at. I've > forgotten that part. Anyway, there was no indication that that > vaccination took either. Because until the scar heals over, you are essentially contagious -- you were spreading smallpox all over the pool. It wasn't a big deal back then because everybody had immunity through vaccination, though. One of the controversies about vaccinating now is that those who receive it are going to be contagious in a population that is not fully immune. FWIW, I was among the last batch of kids to get the immunization. It must have taken pretty well as I still have the scar -- it gets outlined very nicely by my freckles every summer. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:45:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2jnwA026707 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:45:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4B69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:44:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:44:54 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2is521093 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:44:54 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust61.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.63]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:44:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1A37.297414C4@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:47:19 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help References: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> <20021111024143.GD24942@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to > > be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban > > sort of way." > > Faint blue ambiance, preppy kids, clothes out of Urban Outfitters > (or other way-zany shops), clean haircuts, Neutrogena on face. > Think "spotlessness". I think a nude girl holding a single rose with a dew drop on it, standing in an elevated or subway car hanging onto one of the overhead loop things with her other hand. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:48:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2mcwA026714 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:48:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044D222@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:47:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527542 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:47:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2bj520525 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:37:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAB2bjPd016575 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:37:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:37:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Football In-Reply-To: <3DCF1639.BA5B64DE@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Tell the UT team to be of good cheer, Bethany. I saw in today's .... >as many points as we did. We are definitely a cupcake this year -- >that's not the word -- creampuff? We're the kind of team one wishes to >play for a pleasant vacation in the season. What a game that will be - two creampuffs playing football. We were severely and thoroughly manhandled by Miami. Glad I'll be in NYC. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:48:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2mnwA026718 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:48:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4B9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:47:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:47:56 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2lu521451 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:47:56 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust61.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.63]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:47:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1AEC.7C11F6E7@valstar.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:50:20 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCF1404.2EB0EAB8@maynor.net> <3DCF1994.80301@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > > > FWIW, I was among the last batch of kids to get the > immunization. It must have taken pretty well as I still > have the scar -- it gets outlined very nicely by my freckles > every summer. I have a huge scar on my thigh from my first vaccination in kindergarten. They didn't do them on arms then. But when I had another before I went to Russia in 1969 I had one on my arm and it made no mark at all, so I guess it didn't take. I am not sure I want another one, because they say that sickly people might die from it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:51:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2p1wA026736 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:51:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D237@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:50:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:50:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:iudNE/tUPud5V56p2zW/Ymvdj97dCKJP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2e7520721 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:40:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5338C2FE4C for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1B34B7C43; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:40:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: swimming and vaccinations In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110213219.00a0a200@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 10, 2002 9:37:59 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:40:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111024007.1B34B7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > to swim laps, using any combination of strokes we wanted to. One length of > the pool was a D. If you swam back to the deep end, it was a C. Again, a > B, and four laps would be an A. I stopped at the C. I was tired and > terrified. The grade didn't matter anyway, because it was an undergraduate > course and wouldn't affect my graduate grade point average. So you *can* swim. I thought you couldn't. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:53:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2r2wA026749 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:53:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D245@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:52:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:52:09 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2q9521877 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:52:09 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA12398 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:52:08 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 82C8538699; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:52:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:52:08 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help Message-ID: <20021111025208.GE24942@pobox.com> References: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021109233948.039253b0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021109233948.039253b0@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 12:12:35AM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Here are funky "urban divas": . Ha ha ha, yeah I forgot "spotless music". Clean lines, very clean. Did you notice the absolutely zany shades of lipstick. Way funky. Nobody can deny that the above is the greatest magnitude of funk ever seen on the web. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:53:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2rbwA026753 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:53:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044D24A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:52:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:52:39 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2qd521936 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:52:39 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5E006QR5BR5Y@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:52:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:53:53 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Citing Religious Books To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DCF1BC1.4030005@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110084155.02eefec0@mail.istori.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Rita Chapman writes, > >> For general MLA format info for my students, I like Purdue's >> site: > > > Thanks! My goodness. I can't believe I gave *you* a web site LOL. > I wanted to contribute a pointer to a styleguide/how-to for writing "good > business documents" for the linked, on-screen environment of the Web. The > site itself is a little bit dated, but I think it's still a useful > resource. > > http://www.gooddocuments.com/ Hmm. This gives me an idea for a project! -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:54:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2sEwA026756 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:54:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D24F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:53:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:53:20 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2rK521995 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:53:20 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-148.panax.com [63.163.41.148]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2rIt17793 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:53:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110215038.00a055d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:52:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: swimming and vaccinations In-Reply-To: <20021111024007.1B34B7C43@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110213219.00a0a200@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >So you *can* swim. I thought you couldn't. >Karen I can sort of swim. Or I could that day. Years later I took swimming again when I was a rower. I took the Super Chicken class twice at a Knoxville Y. I never did succeed at treading water or doing the crawl. I could sort of do the side stroke but not for long. I can sort of dog paddle but not for long. I can float on my back but not for long. The whole thing is that I fear putting my face into the water. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:54:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2sewA026759 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:54:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044D255@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:53:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:53:47 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2rl522026 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:53:47 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA12912 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:53:47 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id CADC338699; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:53:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:53:46 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help Message-ID: <20021111025346.GF24942@pobox.com> References: <4.1.20021109230501.00961100@mail.attbi.com> <20021111024143.GD24942@pobox.com> <3DCF1A37.297414C4@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCF1A37.297414C4@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 09:47:19PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to > > > be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban > > > sort of way." > > > > Faint blue ambiance, preppy kids, clothes out of Urban Outfitters > > (or other way-zany shops), clean haircuts, Neutrogena on face. > > Think "spotlessness". > > I think a nude girl holding a single rose with a dew drop on it, > standing in an elevated or subway car hanging onto one of the overhead > loop things with her other hand. OK, Neutrogena all over. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:54:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2sjwA026763 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:54:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D257@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:53:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:53:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lZSTTLY+uiohk8nIFFIicP82buPSG69T@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2ho521025 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:43:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C58D2FE5A for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 17FD27C45; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:43:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: wordsler help In-Reply-To: <20021111024143.GD24942@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 10, 2002 8:41:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:43:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111024350.17FD27C45@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:06:26PM -0800, Larry Clark wrote: > > > > What the hell does this mean? > > The sentence? It is meaningless. > > > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to > > be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban > > sort of way." > > Faint blue ambiance, preppy kids, clothes out of Urban Outfitters > (or other way-zany shops), clean haircuts, Neutrogena on face. > Think "spotlessness". I think it means they want it to show them naked on a city street. (natural and urban...) Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:59:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2xowA026786 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:59:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D27F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:58:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527992 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:58:57 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2mv521535 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:48:57 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAB2mtPd021449 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:48:55 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:48:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Huh? I don't think it funny in any sense that the YMCA *allows* the >meetings. I can't imagine why they wouldn't. What I think is funny is >that the pagan/wiccan club chooses that setting for their meetings. Not > -- just funny. Interesting. Starkville must be very different from the places I have lived. Everywhere I have lived in the American South, groups like wiccans have to take what they can get re meeting places. I can't imageinw the RC Cathedral, First Baptist Church, Church St. Methodist, etc. standing in line to get a wiccan group! Of course I assumed that you were objecting to the YMCA's allowing them to meet there - because in my experience wiccans have a heck of a time finding a meeting place. They are always glad to take what they can get. We live and we learn - especially about the American South ... it never ceases to amaze me ... Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 20:59:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB2xswA026789 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:59:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D280@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:59:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528320 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:59:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1STKAYuy+33mgpek1+1+KPEDl/bx99DJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2x1522432 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:59:01 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BE22FE5A for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 98A252B626; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744402B60C for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:59:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:59:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, bonniev wrote: > >Amy Burns Short wrote: > > > My first research paper was on Vincent van Gogh. > >Mine was on the Komsomol. > >alyce > Mine was on T.S. Eliot's The Cocktail Party. I wanted to write on The > Wasteland. But the teacher said I was too young for that. Mine was on race prejudice. I stumbled on some articles about what prejudice does for the prejudiced. That was very important for me: thinking that what people believe might have a lot to do with self interest. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:00:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB300wA026804 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:00:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044D281@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 21:59:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3527993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:59:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OGOLd6iuiHdArMgyVOAF0zJqIhr4uuJ7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2n7521563 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:49:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9ECA2FDFE for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 890407C42; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:49:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCF1AEC.7C11F6E7@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 10, 2002 9:50:20 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:49:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111024906.890407C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > before I went to Russia in 1969 I had one on my arm and it made no mark > at all, so I guess it didn't take. I am not sure I want another one, > because they say that sickly people might die from it. I remmember getting quite sick after my smallpox vaccination. (But I don't have a scar.) Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:02:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB32LwA026822 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:02:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044D2A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:01:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:01:28 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB31S522784 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:01:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.219]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111030310.MYQW706.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:03:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1D80.89F51973@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:01:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Football References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > What a game that will be - two creampuffs playing football. We were > severely and thoroughly manhandled by Miami. No, I don't think you understand. Decent teams are occasionally manhandled. But we are consisently horrible this year. We have won ZERO conference games. As in ZERO. We even lost to Kentucky, which is usually considered an automatic win. Speaking of two creampuffs playing, I bet ESPN is sorry about its Thanksgiving fare. Ole Miss has been pretty creampuffy this year also. Who in the world is going to want to watch the battle of the creampuffs at the Egg Bowl? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:04:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB349wA026838 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:04:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4C61@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:03:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:03:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:DFRx2My+W5wPwtQe2cUo9Wwx87Z1LbmH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2rF521983 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:53:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547FB2FE5A for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2A49C7C40; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:53:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Hmmm.... To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:53:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111025315.2A49C7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Does someone who says 'redd up' also say 'auwf' for 'off'? (I think of 'auwf' as NJ/NYC and 'redd up' as PA. But I know little of American lx.) Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:05:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB35KwA026847 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:05:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4C71@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:04:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:04:27 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:shjPL8wMQ00EObXbCjt1PjvzjfucNTo/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB2sR522114 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:54:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99352FDCB for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8208C7C45; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:54:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: swimming and vaccinations In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110215038.00a055d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 10, 2002 9:52:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:54:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111025426.8208C7C45@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >So you *can* swim. I thought you couldn't. > >Karen > > I can sort of swim. Or I could that day. Years later I took swimming > again when I was a rower. I took the Super Chicken class twice at a > Knoxville Y. I never did succeed at treading water or doing the crawl. I > could sort of do the side stroke but not for long. I can sort of dog > paddle but not for long. I can float on my back but not for long. The > whole thing is that I fear putting my face into the water. It's much easier to put your whole body under, IMHO. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:10:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3A2wA026858 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:10:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044D304@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:09:09 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB399523751 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:09:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.52]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111031051.BXSS1184.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF1F4C.C669E81F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:09:00 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: swimming and vaccinations References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021110213219.00a0a200@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > I did take it > when I was a graduate student at UT. They played music underwater to > encourage us to put out faces in the water. But I just floated on my back > to hear the music. Although I find it hard to imagine what it would be like to not know how to swim, I can guess that it really would be scary as an adult. Things in adulthood. Then again, I'm a pisces, so presumably if I'd grown up in some kind of strange arid place without knowing about water, I would nevertheless have been able to jump right in and feel good about it. I do find water extremely relaxing. As I think I've said before on this , it's hard for me to think of swimming as exercise. I think of it as totally relaxing and feel as if I could keep swimming forever and ever. Re floating on your back, that kind of surprises me. I remember in my swimming-teaching days finding that people who weren't comfortable in water usually claimed that they couldn't float. (There are very, very few genuine non-floaters in the world. Most people who think they can't really can. They just don't realize it.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:11:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3B4wA026864 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:11:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D30D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:10:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3528392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:10:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NhgdWb3K2vED8d5FFpQCD+1OQ1XzIMXM@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB30B522600 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:00:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E45A2FE5A for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 51AFB7C42; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:00:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Nov 10, 2002 6:59: 0 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:00:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111030010.51AFB7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, bonniev wrote: > > >Amy Burns Short wrote: > > > > My first research paper was on Vincent van Gogh. > > >Mine was on the Komsomol. > > >alyce > > Mine was on T.S. Eliot's The Cocktail Party. I wanted to write on The > > Wasteland. But the teacher said I was too young for that. > > Mine was on race prejudice. > > I stumbled on some articles about what prejudice does for the prejudiced. > That was very important for me: thinking that what people believe might > have a lot to do with self interest. What does it do? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:13:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3DmwA026908 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:13:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D335@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:12:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:12:55 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3Ct524192 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:12:55 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.52]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111031437.BZSW1184.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:14:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF2030.CB7DABAF@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:12:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCF1404.2EB0EAB8@maynor.net> <3DCF1994.80301@swbell.net> <3DCF1AEC.7C11F6E7@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I have a huge scar on my thigh from my first vaccination in > kindergarten. They didn't do them on arms then. Ahh, so were a thigher. Even in my generation (generation might not be the right term -- I think of you and me as the same generation -- what I mean is that you are a bit older than I am) -- starting over -- even in my age group, there were a few people who had the scars on their thighs. But it was arms for most of my classmates. > I am not sure I want another one, > because they say that sickly people might die from it. I'm not sure that I want another one because I simply don't care as much anymore about . I see my life as winding down anyway. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:22:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3MEwA027001 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:22:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044D41E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:21:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529368 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:21:20 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3LK525003 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:21:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.52]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111032302.CDWP1184.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:23:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF222A.7FB3AC9F@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:21:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > Interesting. Starkville must be very different from the places I have > lived. Everywhere I have lived in the American South, groups like wiccans > have to take what they can get re meeting places. Well, for one thing we're not talking about Starkville. I thought I had said that it was an MSU organization, not a Starkville city organization. But for another, I would guess that Starkville really is different from Knoxville in that it's a college town rather than a city that contains a college. A town the size of Starkville without a university would be a whole nother thing. We have a pretty impressive mosque, a "Korean Church of Starkville," etc. I don't think you'd find these things in a town of this size in a non-university environment. > - because in my experience > wiccans have a heck of a time finding a meeting place. They are always > glad to take what they can get. Remind me to check on where the MSU atheist/agnostic club meets. I know there is such a club, but I haven't noticed its meeting place. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:23:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3NewA027007 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:23:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D448@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:22:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529422 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:22:47 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3Ml525178 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:22:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.52]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111032429.CEPU1184.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF2280.E40AC30@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:22:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hmmm.... References: <20021111025315.2A49C7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Does someone who says 'redd up' also say 'auwf' for 'off'? (I think of > 'auwf' as NJ/NYC and 'redd up' as PA. But I know little of American lx.) I'm not sure what you mean by 'auwf'. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:24:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3O0wA027011 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:24:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D454@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:23:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529449 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:23:06 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3N6525239 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:23:06 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAB3N1Jd003597 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:23:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021110192458.00a6b690@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:25:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Football In-Reply-To: <3DCF1639.BA5B64DE@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:30 PM 11/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Tell the UT team to be of good cheer, Bethany. I saw in today's >newspaper that that's who we're playing next Saturday. I was looking at >my mother's Clarion-Ledger while visiting her this afternoon and noticed >a headline that sounded upbeat about our football, so I read the story. >This shows you how bad we are: People were feeling good because we >lost to Alabama by only fourteen points yesterday. That's a sad state >of affairs, especially given that people are usually revved up about our >Alabama game since we're major rivals normally (probably because of >proximity -- they're the geographically closest team to us). Anyway, the >newspaper story was about how wonderful it was that they got only twice >as many points as we did. We are definitely a cupcake this year -- >that's not the word -- creampuff? We're the kind of team one wishes to >play for a pleasant vacation in the season. Cal won!! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:25:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3PPwA027024 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:25:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044D477@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:24:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529505 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:24:32 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3OW525361 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:24:32 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.52]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111032614.CFLH1184.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:26:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF22E9.4D93C173@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:24:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers References: <20021111030010.51AFB7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I stumbled on some articles about what prejudice does for the prejudiced. > > That was very important for me: thinking that what people believe might > > have a lot to do with self interest. > > What does it do? Makes them feel . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:27:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3R3wA027039 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:27:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044D498@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:26:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:26:10 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3QA525580 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:26:10 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.52]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111032752.CGBE1184.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:27:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF234B.46D9F79E@maynor.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:26:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Football References: <4.2.2.20021110192458.00a6b690@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Cal won!! Weird, weird, weird. I'm about to log off, but I was going to send one last posting before doing so. It was going to say, "When is Bad Betty due back?" And here you are. All's right with the world. And a goodnight to all. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:36:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3apwA027123 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:36:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F4DD6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:35:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3529946 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:35:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NvE1pQbSkkLDpsvJ5p57c18KGuRzvctl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3Zw526455 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:35:58 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A053B2FDC0 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 734032B60C; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562222B609 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:35:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <20021111030010.51AFB7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I stumbled on some articles about what prejudice does for the prejudiced. > > That was very important for me: thinking that what people believe might > > have a lot to do with self interest. > > What does it do? Oh my god! What a fair question. Except that I wrote this paper maybe in 1951? Do you realize how long ago that is! Well, I'll wing it: having a group identity makes people feel good, and if it is a superior group identity, it makes them feel even better, and even if they are poor and stupid and going nowhere, if they have a group of others to think THEY'RE SO FUCKING WORSE that makes them feel better too. Something like that. I do remember, for some reason, the critical author: Gordon Allport or Alport. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:44:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3iTwA027179 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:44:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044D6BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:43:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3530377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:43:35 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3hZ527160 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:43:35 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA27709 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:43:35 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E046438699; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:43:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:43:34 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help Message-ID: <20021111034334.GI24942@pobox.com> References: <20021111024143.GD24942@pobox.com> <20021111024350.17FD27C45@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111024350.17FD27C45@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 06:43:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:06:26PM -0800, Larry Clark wrote: > > > > > > What the hell does this mean? > > > > The sentence? It is meaningless. > > > > > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to > > > be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban > > > sort of way." > > > > Faint blue ambiance, preppy kids, clothes out of Urban Outfitters > > (or other way-zany shops), clean haircuts, Neutrogena on face. > > Think "spotlessness". > > I think it means they want it to show them naked on a city street. > (natural and urban...) So maybe old people shouldn't try to figure this out with their 60s intuitions. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:59:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3xPwA027290 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:59:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044D8CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:58:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3530525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:58:27 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hB3C+vcXjjGmOOXOltd/Z4mcOFnNiAjg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3mR527586 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:48:27 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812122FE8F for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4C48E7C43; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:48:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Nov 10, 2002 7:35:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:48:26 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111034826.4C48E7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > Oh my god! What a fair question. Except that I wrote this paper maybe in > 1951? Do you realize how long ago that is! I should--it was my natal year. > Something like that. I do remember, for some reason, the critical author: > Gordon Allport or Alport. Your brain scares me. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 21:59:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB3xiwA027295 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 21:59:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F5001@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 22:58:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3530528 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:58:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Sh+O16Gkqb9ZM2GMeUmg1HkIjlzlmd7a@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB3mo527601 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:48:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC0D2FE90 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 238F07C44; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: wordsler help In-Reply-To: <20021111034334.GI24942@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 10, 2002 9:43:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111034850.238F07C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 06:43:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Tushar Samant said: > > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:06:26PM -0800, Larry Clark wrote: > > > > > > > > What the hell does this mean? > > > > > > The sentence? It is meaningless. > > > > > > > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to > > > > be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban > > > > sort of way." > > > > > > Faint blue ambiance, preppy kids, clothes out of Urban Outfitters > > > (or other way-zany shops), clean haircuts, Neutrogena on face. > > > Think "spotlessness". > > > > I think it means they want it to show them naked on a city street. > > (natural and urban...) > > So maybe old people shouldn't try to figure this out with > their 60s intuitions. Maybe.:) Karen, an old people From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 22:41:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB4fnwA027564 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:41:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0044DD33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 23:40:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3536337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:40:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:sI7VdgcCoYBF2iTqNpLrxTZ6P/tRS0V4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB4Uu532608 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:30:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBA42FE14 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BFF7A7C41; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:30:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Tim O'Brien? To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:30:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111043055.BFF7A7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Anybody read anything by him? I have to read "The Things They Carried" by Monday. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 22:42:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB4gQwA027569 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:42:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044DD3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 23:41:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3536350 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:41:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Be9JE2oaz7zyxDvpwP/LAyb4nw/qNI85@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB4VW532652 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:31:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8825C2FE14 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5419C7C43; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:31:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Oops. To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:31:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111043131.5419C7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wednesday. Monday is tomorrow. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 22:49:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB4n8wA027649 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:49:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044DD6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; 10 Nov 2002 23:48:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3536769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:48:14 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB4mE501399 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:48:14 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAB4mCWh015840 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:48:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021110204917.00a695e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:50:20 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: <20021111043131.5419C7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:31 PM 11/10/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Wednesday. Monday is tomorrow. > >Karen >"Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins Did you all celebrate 'Al's and JMW's birthday while I was gone? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sun Nov 10 23:09:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB59dwA028045 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:09:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0044DF1B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 0:08:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3536869 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 00:08:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:pjcNcbeVWWbT9v60FkqP4PFqWOD2gShQ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB4p4501684 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 23:51:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489CB2FE7E for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1DD007C41; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:51:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021110204917.00a695e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 10, 2002 8:50:20 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:51:04 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111045104.1DD007C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > Did you all celebrate 'Al's and JMW's birthday while I was gone? Yep. Did you have a good time? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 00:49:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB6nHwA028792 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 00:49:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0044E8D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 1:48:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3542250 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:48:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe40.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.97]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB6mM511453 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:48:22 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:48:17 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [208.60.224.130] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: Oops. Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 00:51:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2002 06:48:17.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[50AF37F0:01C2894E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Did you all celebrate 'Al's and JMW's birthday while I was gone? >Betty Yep. :) And WHTY? AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 00:54:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAB6sFwA028810 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 00:54:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F5E9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 1:53:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3542385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:53:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAB6rK511751 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:53:20 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F5E9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 1:53:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200211110653.gAB6rK511751@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 01:53:20 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: Help To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Theodora Groothof Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't understand. I tried to subscribe and returned the requested OK, but the message was not sent. "unknown subscriber" or somesuch nonsence.. However, here I am again, but the reply I send to one post today, was also rejected. HELP Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 05:15:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABBFSwA029936 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:15:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004501B6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 6:14:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3548241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:14:31 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABBEV528064 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:14:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.171]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111111613.FGEE7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF910E.5266C6F5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:14:22 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tim O'Brien? References: <20021111043055.BFF7A7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Anybody read anything by him? I have to read "The Things They Carried" > by Monday. I don't think I've actually read anything by him, but does it help that I'm a TO1? He was visiting here a long time ago, and I went to a small party for him at somebody's else. I remember talking to him but don't remember what we talked about. Why do you have to read it? (Not that I'm suggesting you shouldn't read it or shouldn't want to read it -- I'm just wondering about the have to part.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 05:16:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABBGgwA029941 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:16:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F65AC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 6:15:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3548253 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:15:46 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABBFk528147 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:15:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.171]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111111728.FGXM7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:17:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF915B.B55CDDA7@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:15:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oops. References: <4.2.2.20021110204917.00a695e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > Did you all celebrate 'Al's and JMW's birthday while I was gone? Yes. Did you? Did you lift your tequila in a toast to them? What else did you do while away from us? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 05:19:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABBJNwA029948 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:19:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00450219@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 6:18:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3548285 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:18:27 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABBIR528293 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:18:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.171]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111112009.FIIB7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:20:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF91FC.F9B89BBC@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:18:20 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help References: <200211110653.gAB6rK511751@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > I don't understand. I tried to subscribe and returned the requested OK, > but the message was not sent. "unknown subscriber" or somesuch > nonsence.. However, here I am again, but the reply I send to one post > today, was also rejected. HELP Theo The 'rev' command shows you as a subscriber. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 05:21:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABBLfwA029955 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:21:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00450257@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 6:20:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3548330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:20:45 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABBKj528480 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:20:45 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.171]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111112227.FJGE7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:22:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF9286.76FA5ADF@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:20:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Frank McLellan!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Are you lurking, Frank, or are you on nomail? When did you move to Missouri? Say something!! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 05:25:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABBPDwA029964 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:25:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00450296@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 6:24:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3548432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:24:16 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABBOG528768 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:24:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.171]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111112558.FKVB7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:25:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCF9359.BE021437@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:24:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Frank McLellan!! References: <3DCF9286.76FA5ADF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Amazing. This is the first time I've looked at the current subscribers in a long time, and I'm amazed at how many names I see of old-timers. I'm sure some have been there all along, presumably on nomail, but have all of them? There are tons of old, familiar names. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 06:33:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABCXnwA030268 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:33:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F67C1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 7:32:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3549408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:32:51 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABCMp516446 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:22:51 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gABCMoPd006510 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:22:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:22:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Football In-Reply-To: <3DCF1D80.89F51973@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> What a game that will be - two creampuffs playing football. We were >> severely and thoroughly manhandled by Miami. > >No, I don't think you understand. Decent teams are occasionally >manhandled. But we are consisently horrible this year. We have won >ZERO conference games. As in ZERO. We even lost to Kentucky, which is Oh, I think I understand. We have won only one conference game - and it took 6 OTs to do it. In face, Arkansas beat us - they just did not win the game (because of the stupid OT rules in college football). Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 06:52:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABCqEwA030332 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:52:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00450961@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 7:51:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3550554 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:51:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABCpG519039 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:51:16 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-76.panax.com [63.163.41.76]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABCpFt03865 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:51:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111074929.009f8e60@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:50:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: swimming and vaccinations In-Reply-To: <20021111025426.8208C7C45@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110215038.00a055d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I can sort of swim. Or I could that day. Years later I took swimming > > again when I was a rower. I took the Super Chicken class twice at a > > Knoxville Y. I never did succeed at treading water or doing the crawl. I > > could sort of do the side stroke but not for long. I can sort of dog > > paddle but not for long. I can float on my back but not for long. The > > whole thing is that I fear putting my face into the water. > >It's much easier to put your whole body under, IMHO. >Karen Of course, and that's why swimming is such a struggle with lots of exhausting, wasted effort for me. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 06:56:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABCuawA030353 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:56:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F68EE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 7:55:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3550895 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:55:38 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABCtc519751 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:55:38 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-76.panax.com [63.163.41.76]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABCtbt04677 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:55:37 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075149.009fc940@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:55:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: swimming and vaccinations In-Reply-To: <3DCF1F4C.C669E81F@maynor.net> References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021110213219.00a0a200@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Then again, I'm a pisces, so presumably >if I'd grown up in some kind of strange arid place without knowing about >water, I would nevertheless have been able to jump right in I also am a water sign. Didn't do a thing for me. >Re floating on your back, that kind of surprises me. I remember in my >swimming-teaching days finding that people who weren't comfortable in >water usually claimed that they couldn't float. -- Natalie I understand that being in water is relaxing. I could float on my back in water that wasn't over my head for a long time. As long as I know I can stand up and walk out of the water, I'm fine. I was afraid of water in my face since childhood while, at the same time, being attracted to large bodies of water. I loved Lake Michigan. I love the ocean. I've even floated on my back on a small Wisconsin lake in the dark, having ascertained that the water was not over my head. Yet, I once became hysterical when I got a face full of water on an amusement park ride. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 06:59:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABCx5wA030362 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:59:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00450A63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 7:58:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3550403 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:58:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABCm7518793 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:48:07 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gABCm5Pd018379 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:48:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:48:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Another AA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie, a course for you -- http://www.caths.cam.ac.uk/collegelife/chapel/AgnosAnnom/index.html Handouts: 1: Finding Meaning? (questions, not answers) 2: Creation or Chance? 3: Jesus - simply a good teacher? 4: Evil 5: Why Christianity? 6: The life of faith Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 07:03:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABD3BwA030402 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:03:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00450ACF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 8:02:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3551176 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:02:13 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABD2D520498 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:02:13 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-76.panax.com [63.163.41.76]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABD2Ct06012 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:02:12 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075642.009fb1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:57:29 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <3DCF222A.7FB3AC9F@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Remind me to check on where the MSU atheist/agnostic club meets. I know >there is such a club, but I haven't noticed its meeting place. > -- Natalie This seems weird. Why would agnostics form a club and have meetings? What would they talk about? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 07:44:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABDifwA030555 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:44:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F6BDC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 8:43:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:43:26 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABDhQ524689 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:43:26 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3H6QY>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:43:30 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3H6QX; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:43:26 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021111144259.0300f810@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:43:17 +0100 Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <3DCEDEE3.F030AFDF@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110135954.00a060d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 16:34 10.11.2002 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >I'm amazed that so many of you remember this stuff. I have no idea what >my first research paper was on. Among the ones I remember writing in >high school were one on Winston Churchill's speeches and one on >Tennessee Williams. I don't know which of those was first, and I'm sure >there were others. My first in high school was on Stonehenge. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 07:48:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABDmYwA030588 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:48:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045101B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 8:47:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:47:37 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABDla525297 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:47:36 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3H6SW>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:47:40 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3H6SV; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:47:32 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021111144619.0310ab58@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:47:23 +0100 Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEE80C.83C95506@maynor.net> References: <3DCEE24E.A0BB5EC2@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 17:13 10.11.2002 -0600 skrev Natalie Maynor: >Natalie Maynor wrote: >> I've >> known of many cases in my life of Christian churches inviting people of >> other beliefs to use their facilities -- like a Jewish group needs a >> meeting place while trying to build a synagogue, so they use the >> Methodist church since their meetings are on different days. Etc. etc. > >Have I mentioned before the cute little combination church/synagogue I >saw in a tiny town in New Zealand? I was looking at it, admiring it as For sesshins we rent a chapel in the forest outside Oslo. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 07:51:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABDpHwA030599 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:51:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00451079@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 8:50:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3552580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:50:19 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABDeF524414 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:40:19 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3H635>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:40:18 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3H63Y; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:40:09 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021111143818.066b0e78@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:39:57 +0100 Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <3DCEA521.676A10B@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 13:27 10.11.2002 -0500 skrev alyce cresap: >Amy Burns Short wrote: >> >> >> My first research paper was on Vincent van Gogh. > >Mine was on the Komsomol. I was once at a New Tears Eve party at a Komsomol hotel in what was then Leningrad. There were people falling asleep with their heads in the salad, literaly. Down the tables there were bottles, every other white wine and every other vodka. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:13:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEDAwA030695 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:13:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00451333@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:12:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:12:12 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABECC530127 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:12:12 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:12:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFBB47.2E657866@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:14:31 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <20021111015159.CABAD7C40@yellow.rahul.net> <3DCF1404.2EB0EAB8@maynor.net> <3DCF1994.80301@swbell.net> <3DCF1AEC.7C11F6E7@valstar.net> <3DCF2030.CB7DABAF@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > there were a few people who had the scars on their > thighs. But it was arms for most of my classmates. I've sometimes wondered if the visiting doctor liked to give little girls the vaccinations on their thighs so that they could lift up their little skirts. The boys had arm vaccinations. They didn't have to pull down their pants. But maybe it was a consideration -- that a thigh scar would be less defacing than an arm one for a girl. I can remember this day rather well--it was in kindergarten and we all lined up and then the girls were lifted up to sit on a table. I was wearing a red plaid pleated skirt. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:13:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEDawA030703 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:13:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045133F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:12:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:12:38 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABECc530195 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:12:38 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3H6ZG>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:12:42 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3H6Z1; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:12:33 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021111151204.030fca30@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:12:21 +0100 Subject: Re: Research Papers In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021111143818.066b0e78@victoria.nb.no> References: <3DCEA521.676A10B@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:39 11.11.2002 +0100 skrev Espen S. Ore: >13:27 10.11.2002 -0500 skrev alyce cresap: >>Amy Burns Short wrote: >>> >>> >>> My first research paper was on Vincent van Gogh. >> >>Mine was on the Komsomol. > >I was once at a New Tears Eve party at a Komsomol hotel in what was then Leningrad. There New Year's ... Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:16:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEGtwA030738 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:16:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045138F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:15:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:15:57 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABEFv530642 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:15:57 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:15:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFBC27.36DD8906@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:18:15 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Tim O'Brien? References: <20021111043055.BFF7A7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Anybody read anything by him? I have to read "The Things They Carried" > by Monday. Why? Anyway, it's too late. This is Monday. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:17:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEHdwA030754 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:17:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045139E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:16:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:16:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABEGf530787 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:16:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:16:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFBC4C.254615A7@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:18:52 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Oops. References: <20021111043131.5419C7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Wednesday. Monday is tomorrow. Ah, a reprieve. But why must you read it? Not for the King ARthur cooking school, I presume. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:23:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABENtwA030778 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:23:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F706D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:22:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3555831 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:22:52 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABEMq531726 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:22:52 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:22:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFBDC8.C74AC728@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:25:12 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help References: <200211110653.gAB6rK511751@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > I don't understand. I tried to subscribe and returned the requested OK, > but the message was not sent. "unknown subscriber" or somesuch > nonsence.. However, here I am again, but the reply I send to one post > today, was also rejected. HELP Theo I think you must call Earthlink again. There is nothing that any of us can do. Tell Earthlink to try to subscribe you. I hope you succeed. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:30:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEUbwA030816 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:30:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045152B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:29:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3556184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:29:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABETd532617 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:29:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFBF5E.EE8B671@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:31:58 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Research Papers References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021111143818.066b0e78@victoria.nb.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Espen S. Ore" wrote: > > I was once at a New Tears Eve party at a Komsomol hotel in what was then Leningrad. There were people falling asleep with their heads in the salad, literaly. Down the tables there were bottles, every other white wine and every other vodka. I wish I'd known you then, so that I could have included this tidbit. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:33:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEX1wA030824 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:33:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F7137@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:32:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3556315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:32:02 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABEW2500562 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:32:02 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:32:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFBFED.6A911F88@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:34:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: For Karen/Natalie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tired of mowing your lawn? New from Burpee - Lawnbuster! http://www.burpee.com/lawnbuster/ Burpee Lawnbuster is an amazingly simple and beautiful way to reclaim some of your yard space for nature - and cut down on tedious mowing chores at the same time. You start right now, preparing a dreary patch of dull lawn for a miraculous transformation into an oasis of maintenance-free, long lasting, spectacular gardens. -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:35:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEZbwA030843 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:35:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004515AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:34:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3556540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:34:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABEYd501006 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:34:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:34:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFC085.E48D0A@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:36:53 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: the book trade in a downward spiral Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Unbelievable: 1. Bell South Telephone Book for Winston-Salem, North Carolina 2001-2002. by Bell South. Unused, still in shrink wrap, yellow. 4to. (Keywords: STATES) The price of the book is US$ 18.95 I grant you that genealogists of the future will want this thing, but who would ever buy it now? -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:40:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEe8wA030853 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:40:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00451624@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:39:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3556904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:39:10 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABEdA501793 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:39:10 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21719 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 09:38:48 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 09:38:31 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:38:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: the book trade in a downward spiral Message-ID: <3DCF7A90.29324.225CDE@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DCFC085.E48D0A@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You're only thinking information and not artifact. There arelots of telephone book collectors. BrP > Unbelievable: > > 1. Bell South Telephone Book for Winston-Salem, North Carolina > 2001-2002. by Bell South. Unused, still in shrink wrap, yellow. 4to. > (Keywords: STATES) > The price of the book is US$ 18.95 > > I grant you that genealogists of the future will want this thing, but > who would ever buy it now? > -- > alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 08:55:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABEtNwA030951 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:55:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004517DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 9:54:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3558112 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:54:25 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABEsP504684 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:54:25 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust114.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.116]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:54:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFC52C.59DD86AB@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:56:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: the book trade in a downward spiral References: <3DCF7A90.29324.225CDE@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > You're only thinking information and not artifact. There arelots of telephone book > collectors. I stand corrected. I am all for ephemera, and I suppose this is ephemeral by definition. As I said, I know that old ones are in demand. I just can't imagine people buying new ones and storing them for the future. I'd like to find the collector(s) you mention, because I think I have about a dozen phonebooks here of recent vintage. Three counties, Albany, NYC, local Germantown, and more. However, if there were a cell phone directory, I'd buy it. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:22:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFMFwA031110 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:22:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00451AC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:21:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3559433 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:21:17 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFBH507500 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:11:17 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gABFBCPd022725; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:11:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:11:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <3DCEF73E.9C36E54D@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> Are you a Christian? Whether you are or not, what is YOUR definition? > >dinged. My personal definition of Christian in the sense of saying that >I am one is somebody who finds the Jesus metaphor good. Good Lord deliver us! Your "personal definition" is "in the sense of" saying that you "find the Jesus metaphor good." Well, bully for you! What does "the Jesus metapohor" mean exactly? I have no idea what you mean by it. And why are you so reluctant to endorse even that that you must use phrases like "in the sense of"? And what does it mean to "find it good"? Talk about weasel words ... You seem stuck between fundamentalism and agnosticism. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:45:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFjYwA031241 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:45:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00451D33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:44:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3561073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:44:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lyqxXLMSj8kOufV0fLXE3txzHqXGiTOV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFYY510917 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:34:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D992FE5B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ED62C7C46; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:34:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Tim O'Brien? In-Reply-To: <3DCF910E.5266C6F5@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 11, 2002 5:14:22 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:34:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111153433.ED62C7C46@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Why do you have to read it? (Not that I'm suggesting you shouldn't read > it or shouldn't want to read it -- I'm just wondering about the have to > part.) Book club. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:48:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFm1wA031252 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:48:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00451D7C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:47:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3561211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:47:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tg0JA7i94fxTSnsSAuS70KRpML67ooLC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFb3511261 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:37:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BE02FE59 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 66CBB7C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:37:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: swimming and vaccinations In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111074929.009f8e60@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 11, 2002 7:50:57 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:37:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111153702.66CBB7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > > I can sort of swim. Or I could that day. Years later I took swimming > > > again when I was a rower. I took the Super Chicken class twice at a > > > Knoxville Y. I never did succeed at treading water or doing the crawl. I > > > could sort of do the side stroke but not for long. I can sort of dog > > > paddle but not for long. I can float on my back but not for long. The > > > whole thing is that I fear putting my face into the water. > > > >It's much easier to put your whole body under, IMHO. > >Karen > > Of course, and that's why swimming is such a struggle with lots of > exhausting, wasted effort for me. Well, I saw lots of people swimming at my local pools without putting their faces in the water. I don't like putting my face in the water, but I don't mind having my whole body under if I have goggles on. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:49:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFn5wA031261 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:49:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00451D9C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:48:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3561319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:48:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5vy8lHjGI3tPYVthUoMQLZQzwuY3O+gW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFc6511469 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:38:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC1C2FE5B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 218E97C45; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:38:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075642.009fb1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 11, 2002 7:57:29 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:38:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111153806.218E97C45@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Remind me to check on where the MSU atheist/agnostic club meets. I know > >there is such a club, but I haven't noticed its meeting place. > > -- Natalie > > This seems weird. Why would agnostics form a club and have meetings? What > would they talk about? Atheists seem to have a lot to talk about--there are several groups in Austin. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:50:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFoXwA031265 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:50:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00451DDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:49:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3561443 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:49:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ElX1KKfz4Rl9uPSN//PpPy6wJDc/4WIl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFdZ511723 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:39:35 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D562FE5B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 78F277C44; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:39:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: <3DCFBC4C.254615A7@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 9:18:52 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:39:34 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111153934.78F277C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Wednesday. Monday is tomorrow. > > Ah, a reprieve. But why must you read it? Not for the King ARthur > cooking school, I presume. No, King Arthur was self-contained. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:51:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFpEwA031273 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:51:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00451DEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:50:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3562385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:50:16 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFoF513563 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:50:15 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021111155009.BFVX24365.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:50:09 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111074134.023db6b0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:50:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: the book trade in a downward spiral In-Reply-To: <3DCFC52C.59DD86AB@valstar.net> References: <3DCF7A90.29324.225CDE@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap writes, >However, if there were a cell phone directory, I'd buy it. Now that this bird has been revived, I can say that while the idea is a good one, it's been pre-conceived: . Not that it seems to be wildly successful, unfortunately. was another one, but it's even less successful; it appears to be defunct. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:55:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFtAwA031294 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:55:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00451E5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:54:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3561778 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:54:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ID8ejj48uw6DtiGD7My7hDGYtGOd68vQ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFiC512548 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:44:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBEF2FEA2 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 540E77C41; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:44:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <3DCFBFED.6A911F88@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 9:34:21 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:44:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111154411.540E77C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Tired of mowing your lawn? I guess this is for people who don't have wildflowers. My wild garlic is blooming again, so I get good smells when I mow, plus the pink oxalis is in bloom. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 09:59:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABFxqwA031322 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:59:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00451EEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:58:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:58:53 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABFwr514986 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:58:53 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABFwqWh001005; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:58:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111080024.00a73710@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:01:12 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: <20021111045104.1DD007C41@yellow.rahul.net> References: <4.2.2.20021110204917.00a695e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:51 PM 11/10/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >Betty said: > > Did you all celebrate 'Al's and JMW's birthday while I was gone? > >Yep. Did you have a good time? Si. Betty Happy, not worried, here! >Karen >"Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABG19wA031354 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:01:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00451F0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:00:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563202 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:00:10 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABG09515225 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:00:09 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABG08Wh031202; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:00:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111080127.00a70800@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:02:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:51 AM 11/11/2002 -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > >Did you all celebrate 'Al's and JMW's birthday while I was gone? > > >Betty > >Yep. :) > >And WHTY? We were in search of the perfect margarita and found it! Loved your photo, Amy. Thanks. I'm still catching up with mail. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:03:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABG3DwA031365 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:03:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00451F48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:02:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:02:15 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABG2F515536 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:02:15 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust87.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.89]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:02:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFD510.8382B99@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:04:32 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: quote of the day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "It's like the Roman Empire. Wasn't everybody running around just covered with syphilis? And then it was destroyed by the volcano." -Joan Collins -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:04:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABG4uwA031372 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:04:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00451F86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:03:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:03:57 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABG3v515869 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:03:57 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABG3uWh000983 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:03:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111080305.00a6c100@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:06:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: <3DCF915B.B55CDDA7@maynor.net> References: <4.2.2.20021110204917.00a695e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:15 AM 11/11/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > Did you all celebrate 'Al's and JMW's birthday while I was gone? > >Yes. Did you? Did you lift your tequila in a toast to them? What else >did you do while away from us? Ate, drank, shopped, toured, relaxed. It was really weird going to Sam's Club and stocking up on supplies the first day. Not nearly as much fun as going to the outdoor markets. There was a Wal Mart next door to Sam's! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:05:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABG5gwA031376 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:05:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00451F9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:04:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563655 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:04:43 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABG4h516045 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:04:43 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABG4gWh004695; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:04:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111080646.00a6ee40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:07:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Frank McLellan!! In-Reply-To: <3DCF9359.BE021437@maynor.net> References: <3DCF9286.76FA5ADF@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:24 AM 11/11/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Amazing. This is the first time I've looked at the current subscribers >in a long time, and I'm amazed at how many names I see of old-timers. >I'm sure some have been there all along, presumably on nomail, but have >all of them? There are tons of old, familiar names. Is ggs still listed? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:14:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABGE6wA031435 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:14:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004520AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:13:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3563472 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:13:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Xc5fnxOuDD0LeAo/2l718P4KRM9R0Uj0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABG36515644 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:03:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3662FEAE for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 42EE27C41; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:03:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: quote of the day In-Reply-To: <3DCFD510.8382B99@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 11: 4:32 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:03:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111160306.42EE27C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > "It's like the Roman Empire. Wasn't everybody running around just > covered with syphilis? And then it was destroyed by the volcano." > -Joan Collins When do you think the last time she read a nonfiction book was? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:39:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABGdjwA031548 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:39:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045240E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:38:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3566847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:38:46 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGck527549 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:38:46 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFDDA0.7F50792E@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:41:04 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quote of the day References: <20021111160306.42EE27C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > When do you think the last time she read a nonfiction book was? She's on Larry King tonight. Maybe she will say. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:47:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABGltwA031598 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:47:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F81E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3567696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:56 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGkt529440 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:55 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-172.panax.com [63.163.41.172]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGkst16805 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:54 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111114528.00a0b690@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:45:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111154411.540E77C41@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DCFBFED.6A911F88@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I guess this is for people who don't have wildflowers. My wild garlic >is blooming again, so I get good smells when I mow, plus the pink >oxalis is in bloom. --Karen We get the smell of oregano when we mow the front yard. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:50:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABGoGwA031604 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:50:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00452542@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3566936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BzmixZp6yiyg6uDOQHQtfcU1WFJckYa1@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGdH527820 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:39:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8269A2FD83 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5B7A77C43; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: quote of the day In-Reply-To: <3DCFDDA0.7F50792E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 11:41: 4 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111163916.5B7A77C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > When do you think the last time she read a nonfiction book was? > > She's on Larry King tonight. Maybe she will say. I actually like her, but she's not really a deep thinker. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:50:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABGoXwA031608 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:50:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F8222@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3567861 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:34 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGnY529811 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:34 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-172.panax.com [63.163.41.172]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGnWt17333 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:33 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111114855.00a09a40@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021111080305.00a6c100@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <3DCF915B.B55CDDA7@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20021110204917.00a695e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Ate, drank, shopped, toured, relaxed. It was really weird going to Sam's >Club and stocking up on supplies the first day. Not nearly as much fun as >going to the outdoor markets. There was a Wal Mart next door to Sam's! >Betty Did you see hurricane damage? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 10:58:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABGwpwA031641 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:58:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F8302@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3568437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGvq501630 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:57:52 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:57:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFE218.20106EFA@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:00:08 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quote of the day References: <20021111163916.5B7A77C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I actually like her, but she's not really a deep thinker. Understatement alert. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:01:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABH1jwA031679 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:01:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045269A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:00:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3568000 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:00:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:W8Y8YWTwMSten+D5URP/0lPZokhDIPTc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGod530377 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:50:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6E12FE38 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C4B0A7C45; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:50:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111114528.00a0b690@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 11, 2002 11:45:54 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:50:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111165038.C4B0A7C45@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >I guess this is for people who don't have wildflowers. My wild garlic > >is blooming again, so I get good smells when I mow, plus the pink > >oxalis is in bloom. --Karen > > We get the smell of oregano when we mow the front yard. Do you have wild oregano? Or is that what you planted your lawnspace with? I'd love to do something like that, but we don't get enough rain. I've seen xeriscaped yards that I like better than the Burpee samples, and that's where I'm headed. Slowly. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:05:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABH5owA031693 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:05:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F83DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3568242 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:50 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:uGNhLnRkMS/iPtJ9HgvEvBgqLiy8Wesr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABGsn532437 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:54:49 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E70082FE0F for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B01AB7C43; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Frank McLellan!! In-Reply-To: <3DCF9286.76FA5ADF@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 11, 2002 5:20:38 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111165448.B01AB7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Are you lurking, Frank, or are you on nomail? When did you move to > Missouri? Say something!! Where? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:05:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABH5swA031696 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:05:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00452726@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3569136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:55 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABH4s505112 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:54 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-172.panax.com [63.163.41.172]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABH4ot20488 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:50 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111165038.C4B0A7C45@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111114528.00a0b690@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Do you have wild oregano? Or is that what you planted your lawnspace >with? --Karen Neither. Clyde has an herb garden out front. Some of the oregano escaped. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:07:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABH7GwA031702 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:07:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00452752@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:06:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3569330 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:06:17 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABH6H505545 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:06:17 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03407 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 12:06:16 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 12:05:44 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:05:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <3DCF9D0F.11338.EF3F7B@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021111165038.C4B0A7C45@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111114528.00a0b690@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 11, 2002 11:45:54 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If Syracuse has another growing season like the one just over, xeriscaping may become quite popular here as well. BrP > > I've seen xeriscaped yards that I like better than the Burpee > samples, and that's where I'm headed. Slowly. > > Karen > "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:12:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHCvwA031725 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:12:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00452845@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:11:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3569986 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:11:58 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHBw506826 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:11:58 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06247 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 12:11:49 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 12:11:17 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:11:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods Message-ID: <3DCF9E64.20486.F472D9@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021111153806.218E97C45@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075642.009fb1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 11, 2002 7:57:29 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm confused. In what way is being atheist or agnostic inconsistent with associating or having something to talk about ? BrP > bonniev said: > > >Remind me to check on where the MSU atheist/agnostic club meets. I know > > >there is such a club, but I haven't noticed its meeting place. > > > -- Natalie > > > > This seems weird. Why would agnostics form a club and have meetings? What > > would they talk about? > > Atheists seem to have a lot to talk about--there are several groups in Austin. > > Karen > "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:14:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHE3wA031729 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:14:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00452868@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:13:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3569019 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:13:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bU/vyV8sbKVMSOupQElmHoOix0oNs9Cu@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABH31504738 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:03:01 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFCF2FE38 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C3F457C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:03:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: quote of the day In-Reply-To: <3DCFE218.20106EFA@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 12: 0: 8 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:03:00 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111170300.C3F457C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I actually like her, but she's not really a deep thinker. > > Understatement alert. LOL. But she's not stupid, either. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:17:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHHCwA031760 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:17:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004528D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:16:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3570464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:16:13 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHGD508016 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:16:13 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABHGBWh007846 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:16:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111091717.00a68470@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:18:30 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Oops. In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111114855.00a09a40@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <4.2.2.20021111080305.00a6c100@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DCF915B.B55CDDA7@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20021110204917.00a695e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:49 AM 11/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >>Ate, drank, shopped, toured, relaxed. It was really weird going to Sam's >>Club and stocking up on supplies the first day. Not nearly as much fun as >>going to the outdoor markets. There was a Wal Mart next door to Sam's! >>Betty > >Did you see hurricane damage? Yes. They are cleaning and rebuilding fast. It did look strange to see some of the big hotels totally dark. Some of them won't open until after the first of the year. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:18:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHI1wA031768 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:18:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004528F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:17:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3569402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:17:02 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:EDdZ2TYPHiSEZS3iOrPcaI5O3PM8W6QM@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABH72505692 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:07:02 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964082FE4C for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 47A547C41; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:07:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 11, 2002 12: 4:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:07:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Do you have wild oregano? Or is that what you planted your lawnspace > >with? --Karen > > Neither. Clyde has an herb garden out front. Some of the oregano escaped. Well, I'd lump that under 'wild'. I'm sure most of my wildflowers escaped from somewhere. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:30:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHUJwA031835 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:30:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F86C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:29:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3571538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:29:08 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHT1511982 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:29:07 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:28:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFE962.DC9AC1CB@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:31:14 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Monk! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tonight ABC 8:00 est alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:38:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHc7wA031862 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:38:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F87FE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:37:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3572647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:37:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHb7517040 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:37:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-252.panax.com [63.163.41.252]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHb2t27382 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:37:03 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:36:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <3DCF9E64.20486.F472D9@localhost> References: <20021111153806.218E97C45@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075642.009fb1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm confused. In what way is being atheist or agnostic inconsistent with >associating >or having something to talk about ? --BrP I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. I see a conversation going something like this: "Hi, I'm Bonnie. I'm not sure there is a god." "Hi Bonnie. I'm Paul. I'm not sure either." Over. Done. End of meeting. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:49:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHniwA031922 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004529AF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:23:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3570034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:23:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:zEQwMrE4KeR+6hhn/AYLIxqJO/gVgaWE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHD2507014 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:13:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741B52FE16 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0ECC17C49; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:13:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <3DCF9D0F.11338.EF3F7B@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 11, 2002 12: 5:36 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:13:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111171301.0ECC17C49@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > If Syracuse has another growing season like the one just over, xeriscaping may > become quite popular here as well. At first I thought that xeriscaping = sucky. I saw a lot of stupid gardens in L.A., I guess. Living so close to the park and having neighbors with beautiful xeriscaping has made me far more enthusiastic about the prospect. I'm not the kind of person who would ever be a big waterer. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:49:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHniwB031922 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:49:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00452C12@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:40:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3571765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:40:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Fi/VcJeP1X0Hj360lehMoKIZRg5V6N55@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHUl512956 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:30:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDD02FDD4 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5DED77C46; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:30:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <3DCFE962.DC9AC1CB@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 12:31:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:30:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Tonight ABC 8:00 est Yeah. I can't figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 11:51:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABHpbwA031934 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:51:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F89C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:50:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3572952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:50:38 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:q3PKnZ/Jw8CsheGQTymppnIMr3rzHot8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABHec518320 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:40:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814F22FEBE for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:40:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 31D317C40; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:40:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 11, 2002 12:36:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:40:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111174037.31D317C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >I'm confused. In what way is being atheist or agnostic inconsistent with > >associating > >or having something to talk about ? --BrP > > I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have > in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about > something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. I see a > conversation going something like this: > > "Hi, I'm Bonnie. I'm not sure there is a god." > > "Hi Bonnie. I'm Paul. I'm not sure either." > > Over. Done. End of meeting. You wouldn't ask "Why?" Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:02:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABI2PwA031996 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:02:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00452E8D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:01:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3574461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:01:26 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABI1Q521896 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:01:26 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:01:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFF0FF.3421AFFD@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:03:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > alyce cresap said: > > Tonight ABC 8:00 est > > Yeah. I can't figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. What and/or why? I think they are just moving him around to find the best slot. If they can get people to watch Monk on Monday, they might keep them for the next half hour and prevent everyone from watching Raymond who is on at 9 (CBS). I think this is their reason, at least. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:04:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABI4VwA032008 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:04:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00452EC8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:03:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3574657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:03:32 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABI3W522391 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:03:32 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:03:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFF179.D49878B5@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:05:45 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods References: <20021111153806.218E97C45@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075642.009fb1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote:> > I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have > in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about > something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. I see a > conversation going something like this: > > "Hi, I'm Bonnie. I'm not sure there is a god." > > "Hi Bonnie. I'm Paul. I'm not sure either." > > Over. Done. End of meeting. Then when religious people meet it's like this? "Hi, I'm Alyce. I am religious." "Oh, hi, I'm Bonnie. So am I." "OK, let's go now. The meeting is over." alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:10:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABIANwA032025 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:10:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00452F65@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:09:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575214 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:09:24 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABI9N523794 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:09:23 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02845 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 13:09:24 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 11 Nov 02 13:09:11 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:09:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods Message-ID: <3DCFABEE.18776.1295828@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DCF9E64.20486.F472D9@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have > in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about > something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. I see a > conversation going something like this: > > "Hi, I'm Bonnie. I'm not sure there is a god." > > "Hi Bonnie. I'm Paul. I'm not sure either." > > Over. Done. End of meeting. > > > --bonniev Why do you think that questions about the existence of a god would be the only possible topic? Atheists and agnostics I have known seem to have lots to say on the topic of discrimination in a society that puts "In God We Trust" on its money. They also seem to have quite a bit to say about a standard of ethics that isn't scripture- dictated. In some ways I would guess there would be more to talk about because they don't have all the answers about life already handed to them. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:18:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABIIPwA032073 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:18:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F8CE7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:17:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3575046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:17:25 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lra/dnRUndvcj8mTNTxUgXqlsDwbdN9F@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABI7P523370 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:07:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC68B2FE7A for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 81ADE7C43; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:07:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <3DCFF0FF.3421AFFD@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 1: 3:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:07:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111180724.81ADE7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > > Yeah. I can't figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. > > What and/or why? Moving is often a death knell for a program. > I think they are just moving him around to find the > best slot. This is how programs are killed, though. I am not sure if they are moving him to increase viewership, or if they consider this a giveaway slot. > If they can get people to watch Monk on Monday, they might > keep them for the next half hour and prevent everyone from watching > Raymond who is on at 9 (CBS). I think this is their reason, at least. Do you think Monk viewers are Monday Night Football fans? I don't. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:22:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABIM8wA032085 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:22:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004530CD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:21:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3576384 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:21:09 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIL8530677 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:21:08 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-43.panax.com [65.114.190.43]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIL2t03935 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:21:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111131714.00a114d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:20:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <3DCFF179.D49878B5@valstar.net> References: <20021111153806.218E97C45@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075642.009fb1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Then when religious people meet it's like this? >"Hi, I'm Alyce. I am religious." >"Oh, hi, I'm Bonnie. So am I." >"OK, let's go now. The meeting is over." >alyce No, you could have worship ceremonies. And you could talk about how well you followed the guidelines and rules of the sect. And you could lay plans to do whatever is considered good by the group. Etc. etc. Maybe I just think of agnostics and atheists as free-thinkers, going-against-the-crowd kind of people. Why then would they want to form their own crowd? Maybe I'm just thinking of myself, an atheist. I can't see getting together with a bunch of other atheists to talk about it. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:23:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABINIwA032090 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:23:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F8D78@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3576438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:19 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIMI531302 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:18 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-43.panax.com [65.114.190.43]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIMEt04153 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111132107.00a124d0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:21:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <3DCFABEE.18776.1295828@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DCF9E64.20486.F472D9@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Atheists and agnostics I have known seem to have lots to say on the >topic of discrimination in a society that puts "In God We Trust" on its >money. They >also seem to have quite a bit to say about a standard of ethics that isn't >scripture- >dictated. In some ways I would guess there would be more to talk about >because >they don't have all the answers about life already handed to them. >BrP Ah. That makes sense. I hadn't thought of the political activist part of it. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:42:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABIgGwA032175 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:42:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004532D6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:41:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3577879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:41:16 -0500 Received: from mail1.murraystate.edu (mail1.murraystate.edu [216.249.159.50]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gABIfG502799 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:41:16 -0500 Received: from trioets89712 (216.249.149.232) by mail1.murraystate.edu (NPlex 6.5.007) id 3D88F3F10020C404 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:37:05 -0600 Message-ID: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Subject: Veterans Day Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:39:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by gtoal.com id gABIgGwA032175 What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:55:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABItJwA032238 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:55:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00453430@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:54:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3578765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:54:19 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIsJ505242 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:54:19 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA02988 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:54:19 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id DA21A38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:54:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:54:16 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111185416.GB9363@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111114528.00a0b690@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111165038.C4B0A7C45@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111165038.C4B0A7C45@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:50:38AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > bonniev said: > > >I guess this is for people who don't have wildflowers. My wild garlic > > >is blooming again, so I get good smells when I mow, plus the pink > > >oxalis is in bloom. --Karen > > > > We get the smell of oregano when we mow the front yard. > > Do you have wild oregano? Or is that what you planted your lawnspace > with? I'd love to do something like that, but we don't get enough rain. Hm, now I realize why I think oregano is dumb. There were a few bushes near where we live and all us kids--except certain prissy SISTERS I think--chewed and ate the leaves constantly. After a few years I got sick of it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 12:59:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABIx7wA032256 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:59:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F90C6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:58:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3579073 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:58:07 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIw7505788 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:58:07 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:58:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DCFFE44.7A4B8209@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:00:20 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021111180724.81ADE7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > This is how programs are killed, though. I am not sure if they are > moving him to increase viewership, or if they consider this a > giveaway slot. Bear in mind that they contracted for 13 new episodes and that they put it on ABC after the season had begun, so it didn't have a special slot. I think they are just looking for the right place. Any night is fine with me as lonng as it is at 8:00. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:01:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJ12wA032287 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:01:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F90E8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:00:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3578523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:59:57 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f64.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABInu504425 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:49:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:49:51 -0800 Received: from 204.184.92.1 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:49:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.184.92.1] From: "Rita Rouvalis" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Speaking of Godlessness Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:49:51 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2002 18:49:51.0491 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DFA9D30:01C289B3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I think atheism or agnosticism is every bit as legitimate a philosophy as a religion is, so I can imagine there would be a lot to talk about if one was as interested in one's atheism as those who are interested in their religion. Some people aren't really interested in either, of course, and they would probably be non-attenders. I've found (like Paul) that those I know who are thinking atheists, etc. are often more ethical/moral because they've taken the time to develop their codes and think about them as opposed to those who have accepted a religion but have never really thought about why or how they act. -- Rita C. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:05:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJ5JwA032309 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:05:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453543@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:04:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3578764 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:04:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f179.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.179]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIsI505236 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:54:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:54:13 -0800 Received: from 204.184.92.1 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:54:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.184.92.1] From: "Rita Rouvalis" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: phone books Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:54:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2002 18:54:13.0372 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA127BC0:01C289B3] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One of the old textile mills in Lowell, MA caught fire the last year I was in college there and burned to the ground. The fire was extra intense because they had the building filled with old telephone books. I'm sure there was collector somewhere weeping at the loss of millions of yellow pages. I think the university built something on the spot (it had plans to restore the mill -- the university has restored a bunch of the mills and converted them) -- I saw pictures in one of the alumni magazines. I should get up there and visit one of these days. -- Rita C. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:07:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJ7HwA032315 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:07:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045357A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:06:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3578987 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:06:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ihkHZDEJNcLAIt0CcfGHiXXg22Rs2Qpf@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABIuG505514 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:56:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325412FE4D for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:56:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0A5377C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:56:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111185416.GB9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 12:54:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:56:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111185616.0A5377C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Hm, now I realize why I think oregano is dumb. There were a few bushes > near where we live and all us kids--except certain prissy SISTERS I > think--chewed and ate the leaves constantly. After a few years I got > sick of it. How can one ingredient be dumb? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:14:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJE7wA032345 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:14:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453648@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:13:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3579871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:13:07 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJD7512831 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:13:07 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA13225 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:13:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id CE2EA38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:13:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:13:06 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What did we have? A "weird" tree: I have no idea what this enormous strange tree is, but it's still going strong. One of our neighbors--probably a reasonable person but a b*tch according to all kids--tried assassinating its bad ugly self repeatedly, since it blocked her view ("view of what? the street? so she could keep the neighborhood ringing with her reuters news service?" -- kids). But its bad ugly self will not go. The only way is to cut it down, but she has neither the clout nor the funds ... Then there was the cotton bush, whose pods we popped every year for "hands-on" cotton. Massacred by some ass wanting to pave the yard. There were two different jasmines--can't be described, since everything is "jasmine" in English. And there was the divine "night jasmine", aka nyctanthes arbor tristis. On the other side there was a huge berry with great- smelling leaves, a mango, three coconuts and approximately 85 hibiscuses. The berry's gone for sure ... The hedges were mostly henna, but there also were quite a few morning glories and intermittent patches of thorny mimosas. Then came the ass who classified just about everything as a "weed" ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:14:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJEUwA032349 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:14:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453653@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:13:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3579888 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:13:31 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJDU512855 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:13:30 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJDUT06444 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:13:30 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.105]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gABJCOv26599 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:12:24 -0500 Message-ID: <002001c289b6$44ac2220$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> Subject: Re: Veterans Day Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:12:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Veterans, scouts, and assorted other service folk were spared rain this morning. We paid our respects, fired guns in salute, prayed, made vows, shook hands and congratulated recently elected policians, and did feast upon return home. An 86 y/o 101st Div. veteran of WWII carried the US flag the entire parade route, and near the end at a 3-way intersection, where winds also converge, the poor guy got blown into a galloping side step to the left, where if it weren't for helping parade viewers, he would have toppled for sure. He should add another one to his jump-log, this time with "streamer" listed as chute. 'Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Burns Short" To: Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:39 PM Subject: Veterans Day What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? Amy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:17:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJHPwA032380 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:17:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004536E0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:16:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3580663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:16:25 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJGP513715 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:16:25 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA14965 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:16:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id F15A538699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:16:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:16:20 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111191620.GD9363@pobox.com> References: <20021111185416.GB9363@pobox.com> <20021111185616.0A5377C42@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111185616.0A5377C42@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:56:15AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > Hm, now I realize why I think oregano is dumb. There were a few bushes > > near where we live and all us kids--except certain prissy SISTERS I > > think--chewed and ate the leaves constantly. After a few years I got > > sick of it. > > How can one ingredient be dumb? I don't understand the question completely ... My reasoned answer would be there is no special method involved, the generic way of achieving dumbness is fairly effective. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:19:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJJfwA032384 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:19:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453719@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:18:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3580848 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:18:42 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJIf514085 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:18:41 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA16232 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:18:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id EDB0238699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:18:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:18:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods Message-ID: <20021111191840.GE9363@pobox.com> References: <20021111153806.218E97C45@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111075642.009fb1e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111123414.00a08640@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:36:43PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > >I'm confused. In what way is being atheist or agnostic inconsistent with > >associating or having something to talk about ? --BrP > > I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have > in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about > something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. Hm, I just thought of a remark about philosophers which is as witty as remarks about lawyers flung at Bethany. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:23:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJN2wA032398 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:23:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00453773@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:22:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3580994 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:22:02 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJM2514458 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:22:02 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA18050 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:01 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8E3E138699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:01 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Godlessness Message-ID: <20021111192201.GF9363@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:49:51PM -0600, Rita Rouvalis wrote: > I think atheism or agnosticism is every bit as legitimate a philosophy as a > religion is, so I can imagine there would be a lot to talk about if one was > as interested in one's atheism as those who are interested in their > religion. Some people aren't really interested in either, of course, and > they would probably be non-attenders. > > I've found (like Paul) that those I know who are thinking atheists, etc. are > often more ethical/moral because they've taken the time to develop their > codes and think about them as opposed to those who have accepted a religion > but have never really thought about why or how they act. > > > -- Rita C. What the hell kind of sig is this? It looks highly uptight. It makes me say "who the hell are you"? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:23:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJNTwA032402 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:23:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00453782@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:22:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581003 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:22:29 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJMT514516 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:22:29 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA18297 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:29 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 03ED838699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:22:28 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Veterans Day Message-ID: <20021111192228.GG9363@pobox.com> References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? Speak English! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:27:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJRWwA032418 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:27:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00453804@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:26:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:26:32 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJQW515436 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:26:32 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA20441 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:26:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9145238699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:26:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:26:31 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help Message-ID: <20021111192631.GH9363@pobox.com> References: <20021111034334.GI24942@pobox.com> <20021111034850.238F07C44@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111034850.238F07C44@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 07:48:50PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 06:43:49PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Tushar Samant said: > > > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:06:26PM -0800, Larry Clark wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What the hell does this mean? > > > > > > > > The sentence? It is meaningless. > > > > > > > > > "We'd like the (photo) shoot for her new (music) album artwork to > > > > > be more organic/natural in approach, but in an organic/funky/urban > > > > > sort of way." > > > > > > > > Faint blue ambiance, preppy kids, clothes out of Urban Outfitters > > > > (or other way-zany shops), clean haircuts, Neutrogena on face. > > > > Think "spotlessness". > > > > > > I think it means they want it to show them naked on a city street. > > > (natural and urban...) > > > > So maybe old people shouldn't try to figure this out with > > their 60s intuitions. > > Maybe.:) > > Karen, > an old people Nice save, K*R*N. (By the way, if anybody thinks "K*R*N" is a stupid notation, come to the midwest ... it is how they pronounce the name. Say the letters K.R.N. separately and you can too.) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:29:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJTGwA032424 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:29:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00453830@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581512 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJSD520764 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:28:13 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:28:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:30:21 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > What did we have? Coconuts! I never thought of them as being there. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:29:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJTdwA032427 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:29:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453845@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:28:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581556 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:28:39 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJSc520825 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:28:38 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA21570 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:28:38 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E0BD538699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:28:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:28:37 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) Message-ID: <20021111192837.GI9363@pobox.com> References: <3DCEF73E.9C36E54D@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:11:12AM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >> Are you a Christian? Whether you are or not, what is YOUR definition? > > > >dinged. My personal definition of Christian in the sense of saying that > >I am one is somebody who finds the Jesus metaphor good. > > Good Lord deliver us! Your "personal definition" is "in the sense > of" saying that you "find the Jesus metaphor good." Well, bully for > you! > > What does "the Jesus metapohor" mean exactly? I have no idea what you mean > by it. And why are you so reluctant to endorse even that that you must use > phrases like "in the sense of"? And what does it mean to "find it good"? > > Talk about weasel words ... > > You seem stuck between fundamentalism and agnosticism. These are not weasel words, they are American humanities professor words. OK, weasel words. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:34:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJYYwA032460 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:34:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004538E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:33:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:33:34 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJXX527001 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:33:33 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA24287 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:33:33 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id DC15938699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:33:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:33:32 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Citing Religious Books Message-ID: <20021111193332.GJ9363@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021110084155.02eefec0@mail.istori.com> <3DCF1BC1.4030005@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DCF1BC1.4030005@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 08:53:53PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > > >I wanted to contribute a pointer to a styleguide/how-to for writing "good > >business documents" for the linked, on-screen environment of the Web. The > >site itself is a little bit dated, but I think it's still a useful > >resource. > > > >http://www.gooddocuments.com/ > > > > Hmm. This gives me an idea for a project! Me too: www.teacherssuck.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:38:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJcLwA032478 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:38:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00453973@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:37:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581423 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:37:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:38TqODhg9QjamEjGvgYX3UWfaGu1qhQ9@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJRK515586 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79AC2FE43 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:27:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AA4407C4A; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:27:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111191620.GD9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:16:20 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:27:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111192719.AA4407C4A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:56:15AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Tushar Samant said: > > > Hm, now I realize why I think oregano is dumb. There were a few bushes > > > near where we live and all us kids--except certain prissy SISTERS I > > > think--chewed and ate the leaves constantly. After a few years I got > > > sick of it. > > > > How can one ingredient be dumb? > > I don't understand the question completely ... My reasoned answer > would be there is no special method involved, the generic way of > achieving dumbness is fairly effective. Well, I can't think of any dumb ingredients, except maybe marshmallow. Definitely NOT oregano. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:38:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJciwA032483 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:38:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045397F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:37:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:37:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:28U4332gCPp54Dc5hz18zMVz0+rnV5LU@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJRi520549 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:27:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18212FE43 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AC5287C44; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:27:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <20021111191840.GE9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:18:40 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:27:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111192743.AC5287C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:36:43PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > >I'm confused. In what way is being atheist or agnostic inconsistent with > > >associating or having something to talk about ? --BrP > > > > I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have > > in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about > > something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. > > Hm, I just thought of a remark about philosophers which is as > witty as remarks about lawyers flung at Bethany. Say it, bro! Spit it out!! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:40:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJefwA032489 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:40:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004539BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:39:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581676 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:39:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Xp77EU2kJ1Hb588M5Z3wXzFeKMmsNZIK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJTf526040 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:29:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9659F2FE7B for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6D3647C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:29:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: wordsler help In-Reply-To: <20021111192631.GH9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:26:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:29:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111192940.6D3647C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > (By the way, if anybody thinks "K*R*N" is a stupid notation, > come to the midwest ... it is how they pronounce the name. Not. > Say the letters K.R.N. separately and you can too.) Karen midwesterner born and bred From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:41:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJf8wA032495 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:41:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F9629@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:40:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3581738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:40:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fLgg7cdvT0gw/bAqgzeMbCOopZXvmjsC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJU7526313 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:30:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9433B2FEAE for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 691C67C43; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:30:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 2:30:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:30:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111193006.691C67C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > What did we have? > > Coconuts! I never thought of them as being there. You can grow bananas here. I wonder if we could grow coconuts. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:42:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJgAwA032505 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:42:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F9648@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:41:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3582581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:41:09 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJf9511399 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:41:09 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA28473 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:41:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 037CA38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:41:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:41:08 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:30:21PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Coconuts! I never thought of them as being there. How do you mean? Coconuts are among the few good-looking palm trees, in my opinion. They don't look plastic, and since they are not associated with loud, tacky, touristy resorts, their sight doesn't put reasonable people in a loud, tacky, touristy mood. Nothing's sadder than a "boulevard" lined with regularly spaced plastic-looking palm trees ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:45:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJj0wA032524 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:45:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00453A37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:43:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3582842 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:43:57 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJhu511850 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:43:56 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA29833 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:43:56 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 162EF38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:43:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:43:55 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111194355.GL9363@pobox.com> References: <20021111191620.GD9363@pobox.com> <20021111192719.AA4407C4A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111192719.AA4407C4A@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:19AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:56:15AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Tushar Samant said: > > > > Hm, now I realize why I think oregano is dumb. There were a few bushes > > > > near where we live and all us kids--except certain prissy SISTERS I > > > > think--chewed and ate the leaves constantly. After a few years I got > > > > sick of it. > > > > > > How can one ingredient be dumb? > > > > I don't understand the question completely ... My reasoned answer > > would be there is no special method involved, the generic way of > > achieving dumbness is fairly effective. > > Well, I can't think of any dumb ingredients, except maybe > marshmallow. Definitely NOT oregano. You could take these "ingredients" in groups at first. Then once you pick up the spoor of dumb, hold on to it until you have isolated the oregano. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:47:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJlBwA032552 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:47:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F96CA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:46:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3582947 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:46:11 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJkA512143 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:46:11 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA01073 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:46:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4602A38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:46:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:46:10 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111194610.GM9363@pobox.com> References: <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111193006.691C67C43@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111193006.691C67C43@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:30:06AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > alyce cresap said: > > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > > What did we have? > > > > Coconuts! I never thought of them as being there. > > You can grow bananas here. I wonder if we could grow coconuts. I think yes. Hm, never thought there would be something cool about Texas ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:49:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJnEwA032559 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:49:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F970D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:48:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:48:10 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJm9512519 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:48:09 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA01995 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:48:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 43C4D38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:48:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:48:09 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111194809.GN9363@pobox.com> References: <20021111191620.GD9363@pobox.com> <20021111192719.AA4407C4A@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111194355.GL9363@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111194355.GL9363@pobox.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 01:43:55PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:19AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Tushar Samant said: > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 10:56:15AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Tushar Samant said: > > > > > Hm, now I realize why I think oregano is dumb. There were a few bushes > > > > > near where we live and all us kids--except certain prissy SISTERS I > > > > > think--chewed and ate the leaves constantly. After a few years I got > > > > > sick of it. > > > > > > > > How can one ingredient be dumb? > > > > > > I don't understand the question completely ... My reasoned answer > > > would be there is no special method involved, the generic way of > > > achieving dumbness is fairly effective. > > > > Well, I can't think of any dumb ingredients, except maybe > > marshmallow. Definitely NOT oregano. > > You could take these "ingredients" in groups at first. Then > once you pick up the spoor of dumb, hold on to it until you > have isolated the oregano. This is not a joke by the way. It's how the most heroic and groundbreaking chefs in human history have worked. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:49:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJnfwA032563 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:49:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F972E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:48:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583248 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:48:41 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJme512725 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:48:40 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA02159 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:48:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 469A538699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:48:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:48:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods Message-ID: <20021111194840.GO9363@pobox.com> References: <20021111191840.GE9363@pobox.com> <20021111192743.AC5287C44@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111192743.AC5287C44@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:43AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:36:43PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > > >I'm confused. In what way is being atheist or agnostic inconsistent with > > > >associating or having something to talk about ? --BrP > > > > > > I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have > > > in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about > > > something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. > > > > Hm, I just thought of a remark about philosophers which is as > > witty as remarks about lawyers flung at Bethany. > > Say it, bro! Spit it out!! Preachers don't spit it out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:52:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJqawA032577 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:52:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00453AFE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:51:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583498 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:51:36 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJpa513317 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:51:36 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA03591 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:51:35 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A45C438699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:51:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:51:35 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help Message-ID: <20021111195135.GP9363@pobox.com> References: <20021111192631.GH9363@pobox.com> <20021111192940.6D3647C42@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111192940.6D3647C42@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:29:40AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > (By the way, if anybody thinks "K*R*N" is a stupid notation, > > come to the midwest ... it is how they pronounce the name. > > Not. > > > Say the letters K.R.N. separately and you can too.) > > Karen > midwesterner born and bred Look, K.R.N., we know that no vowel in the world captures the correct pronunciation of your name. We learned that during the most memorable thread in wordsler history, establishing you as the K@r3n that we recognize now. However, I maintain that trying to pack K-R-N in two syllables achieves the correct pronunciation for mortals. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:56:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJu9wA032585 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:56:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F97EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:55:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3582893 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:55:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7tSMVmy/XTKhqWTjjgBK7Swhh9ZI722J@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJj9512012 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:45:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B012FDEA for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 779D17C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:45:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:41: 8 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:45:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111194508.779D17C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Nothing's sadder than a "boulevard" lined with regularly spaced > plastic-looking palm trees ... But I like Royal palms. And the palm trees at Stanford. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:57:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJvcwA032594 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:57:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F9806@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583006 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:56:38 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:GVJ/9UoJnf5+sf6IwCrr7DraWH0HQchL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJkY512208 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:46:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD3F2FDD9 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1A3CE7C49; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111194355.GL9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:43:55 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111194633.1A3CE7C49@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Then once you pick up the spoor of dumb, hold on to it until you > have isolated the oregano. Sherlock Holmes couldn't have phrased it better. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:58:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJvxwA032599 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:57:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F9811@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:56:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:56:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Eua6t0xVIidw+7b53lEZajF/0uxR3+mo@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJkw512271 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:46:58 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217B42FDC7 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DE15B7C49; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111194610.GM9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:46:10 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:46:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111194657.DE15B7C49@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:30:06AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > alyce cresap said: > > > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > > > > What did we have? > > > > > > Coconuts! I never thought of them as being there. > > > > You can grow bananas here. I wonder if we could grow coconuts. > > I think yes. > > Hm, never thought there would be something cool about Texas ... You and me both, baby. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 13:58:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABJwkwA032606 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:58:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00453BBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:57:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583970 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:57:46 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJvj514514 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:57:45 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gABJxOw04879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:59:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:59:24 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Veterans Day Message-ID: <20021111205924.A4801@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu>; from amy.short@MURRAYSTATE.EDU on Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: = What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? = = Amy The French had the day off. Yay! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:02:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABK2RwA032652 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:02:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453C3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:01:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583494 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:01:27 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:eF6fRfVzOp1IMnVVJrPP4wzMuoIBuQPR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJpQ513302 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:51:26 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14E92FDF2 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 960337C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:51:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods In-Reply-To: <20021111194840.GO9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:48:40 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:51:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111195125.960337C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:43AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Tushar Samant said: > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:36:43PM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > > > >I'm confused. In what way is being atheist or agnostic inconsistent with > > > > >associating or having something to talk about ? --BrP > > > > > > > > I think of people of an ilk getting together to talk about what they have > > > > in common. But having a lack of something in common or a question about > > > > something in common, doesn't seem like much to discuss. > > > > > > Hm, I just thought of a remark about philosophers which is as > > > witty as remarks about lawyers flung at Bethany. > > > > Say it, bro! Spit it out!! > > Preachers don't spit it out. Sure they do! The people in the first row are covered with it by the end of the service. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:04:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABK4SwA032665 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:04:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453C6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:03:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3583626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:03:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:JYMDZoAn++K4YtdPjlWZ8Pusd44jhf+K@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABJrS513695 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:53:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24402FDD9 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B46397C49; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:53:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: wordsler help In-Reply-To: <20021111195135.GP9363@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 1:51:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:53:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021111195327.B46397C49@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > However, I maintain that trying > to pack K-R-N in two syllables achieves the correct pronunciation > for mortals. No. The first vowel would be wrong. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:14:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKEBwA032699 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:14:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00453D88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:13:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3585238 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:13:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKDA516996 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:13:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust148.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.150]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:13:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:15:23 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:30:21PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > > Coconuts! I never thought of them as being there. > > How do you mean? I am revealing my ignorance of the flora of India. I just did'nt think of there being palms there. No reason why there should not be, and I made no criticism of palms, coconut or otherwise. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:15:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKFswA032728 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:15:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453DC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:14:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3585362 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:14:54 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKEs517262 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:14:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA15865 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:14:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6555B38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:14:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:14:53 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: wordsler help Message-ID: <20021111201453.GA19147@pobox.com> References: <20021111195135.GP9363@pobox.com> <20021111195327.B46397C49@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111195327.B46397C49@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:53:27AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > However, I maintain that trying > > to pack K-R-N in two syllables achieves the correct pronunciation > > for mortals. > > No. The first vowel would be wrong. Not. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:17:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKH3wA032734 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:17:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00453E0A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:16:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3585464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:16:03 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKFw517470 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:15:58 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA16457 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:15:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6E80B38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:15:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:15:54 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111201554.GB19147@pobox.com> References: <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <20021111194508.779D17C42@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111194508.779D17C42@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:45:08AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > Nothing's sadder than a "boulevard" lined with regularly spaced > > plastic-looking palm trees ... > > But I like Royal palms. And the palm trees at Stanford. Some of the most beautiful things are sad. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:19:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKJ1wA032744 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:19:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F9A2F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:18:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3585678 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:18:01 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKI0518006 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:18:00 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA17579 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:17:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A25FF38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:17:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:17:59 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Veterans Day Message-ID: <20021111201759.GC19147@pobox.com> References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> <20021111205924.A4801@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021111205924.A4801@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:59:24PM +0100, stevie wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > = What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? > = > = Amy > > The French had the day off. Yay! Dignified version managers don't yay around like this. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:19:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKJGwA032747 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:19:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00453E5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:18:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3585720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:18:16 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKIF518096 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:18:15 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA17724 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:18:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1CF7438699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:18:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:18:14 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:15:23PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:30:21PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > > > Coconuts! I never thought of them as being there. > > > > How do you mean? > > I am revealing my ignorance of the flora of India. I just did'nt think > of there being palms there. No reason why there should not be, and I > made no criticism of palms, coconut or otherwise. Ten hail marys! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:41:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKfewA000397 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:41:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00454126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:40:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3587710 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:40:40 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKec522683 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:40:38 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:40:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:42:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > Ten hail marys! That is not a penance for me. I am not of The True Faith. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:52:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKq1wA000464 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:52:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045428F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:51:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3588564 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:51:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f111.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.111]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKp0524596 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:51:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:50:54 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:50:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Veterans Day Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:50:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2002 20:50:54.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[0758CA50:01C289C4] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:59:24PM +0100, stevie wrote: >On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: >= What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? >= >= Amy > >The French had the day off. Yay! The Belgians had the day off. Yay! -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 14:56:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABKuOwA000492 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:56:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040F9EAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:55:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3589160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:55:23 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABKtN525625 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:55:23 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABKtIWh030071; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:55:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111125659.00a7f250@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:57:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Veterans Day In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:50 PM 11/11/2002 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:59:24PM +0100, stevie wrote: >>On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: >>= What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? >>= >>= Amy >> >>The French had the day off. Yay! > >The Belgians had the day off. Yay! *I* have the day off. Yay! Thanks, all you Veterans. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 16:38:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABMcdwA001106 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:38:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00454FAA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:37:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3598605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:37:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABMbWx11067 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:37:33 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-169.panax.com [63.163.41.169]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABMbUt26635 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:37:31 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111152711.00b129a0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:33:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:15 PM 11/11/2002 -0500, alyce wrote: >I am revealing my ignorance of the flora of India. I just did'nt think >of there being palms there. No reason why there should not be, and I >made no criticism of palms, coconut or otherwise. Where I was in India (on the Bay of Bengal), the fishermen went to sea in boats that basically were several, 5-7 maybe, palm logs lashed together to form what amounted to a long, shallow bowl. They launched these into the surf; usually after a couple of tries, they would get beyond the surf line, hoist a small, black, triangular sail, and proceed to sail out of sight. Brave men. There were still areas that had decent-sized stands of palms---one of the photos on my living-room wall shows such an area. The palms are considered sufficiently valuable that each palm near where we stayed was numbered. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 16:53:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABMrtwA001175 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:53:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FAD1B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:52:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3599580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:52:53 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABMqrx13348 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:52:53 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id QAA11263 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:52:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7356238699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:52:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:52:51 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111225251.GB6533@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111152711.00b129a0@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111152711.00b129a0@mail.panax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:33:40PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Where I was in India (on the Bay of Bengal), When and for how long? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:03:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABN3HwA001238 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:03:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00455262@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:02:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3600589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:02:16 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABN2Fx14750 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:02:15 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA15839 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:02:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3397038699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:02:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:02:15 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021111230215.GC6533@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:42:46PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > I am not of The True Faith. I don't know what that means, since Allah appeared to me yesterday while I was drinking tea in the empty lot near Oak and Orleans, and said you will eventually be spending eternal quality time with NAKED POOL BOYS. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:13:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABND8wA001273 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:13:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00455346@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:12:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3601069 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:12:06 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNAjx15638 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:12:06 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.66]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111231227.BZLM1269.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD038EE.FA67C28B@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:10:38 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Not a Good Computer Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I can't get to my mail since wojomedia appears to be dead or asleep right now. And I was not able to accomplish the things I needed to accomplish in my office between 7 and 10 a.m. because the storms had zapped parts of the campus network, meaning I couldn't get online to find the address for a letter of recommendation I needed to write, couldn't write the letter because I couldn't get to Wordperfect, couldn't work on the syllabus I was planning to work on, couldn't do much of anything. Couldn't even use my Moneymate card to buy a coke since the card-reader said "system down." Everything came back up while I was in my 10:00 class, but I had no time after that to do the things I had hoped to do before that. Sort of like Wojo will probably come back to life just as it's time for me to leave the computer tonight. . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:43:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNhkwA001402 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:43:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004555EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:42:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3602759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:42:44 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNghx19947 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:42:43 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABNggWh006738; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:42:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111154441.00a8b280@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:44:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day In-Reply-To: <3DD038EE.FA67C28B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:10 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >I can't get to my mail since wojomedia appears to be dead or asleep >right now. And I was not able to accomplish the things I needed to >accomplish in my office between 7 and 10 a.m. because the storms had >zapped parts of the campus network, meaning I couldn't get online to >find the address for a letter of recommendation I needed to write, >couldn't write the letter because I couldn't get to Wordperfect, >couldn't work on the syllabus I was planning to work on, couldn't do >much of anything. Couldn't even use my Moneymate card to buy a coke >since the card-reader said "system down." Everything came back up >while I was in my 10:00 class, but I had no time after that to do the >things I had hoped to do before that. Sort of like Wojo will probably >come back to life just as it's time for me to leave the computer >tonight. . >-- Sucks to be you. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:44:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNiDwA001407 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:44:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB13D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:43:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3602780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:43:08 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNh8x20035 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:43:08 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA03666 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:43:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6448338699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:43:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:43:07 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:45:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNjhwA001435 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:45:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB15A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:44:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3602267 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:44:35 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (daemon@Archive.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNYYx18779 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:34:35 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.9.3/MsState-Archive/1.9); id gABNYVR08294 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:34:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:34:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200211112334.gABNYVR08294@Archive.MsState.Edu> From: maynor@archive.msstate.edu To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Archival Reply Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU |Natalie, a course for you -- |http://www.caths.cam.ac.uk/collegelife/chapel/AgnosAnnom/index.html |Handouts: |1: Finding Meaning? (questions, not answers) |2: Creation or Chance? |3: Jesus - simply a good teacher? |4: Evil |5: Why Christianity? |6: The life of faith |Bethany Why is this a course for me? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |This seems weird. Why would agnostics form a club and have meetings? What |would they talk about? | --bonniev I dunno. Maybe stuff like prayers in schools? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I've sometimes wondered if the visiting doctor liked to give little | girls the vaccinations on their thighs so that they could lift up their | little skirts. The boys had arm vaccinations. They didn't have to pull | down their pants. But maybe it was a consideration -- that a thigh scar | would be less defacing than an arm one for a girl. I can remember this | day rather well--it was in kindergarten and we all lined up and then the | girls were lifted up to sit on a table. I was wearing a red plaid | pleated skirt. | alyce Are you saying you got mass vaccinations? We got ours from our own doctors but had to show the teacher the scar at the beginning of each school year. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Are you a Christian? Whether you are or not, what is YOUR definition? > >dinged. My personal definition of Christian in the sense of saying that >I am one is somebody who finds the Jesus metaphor good. | Good Lord deliver us! Your "personal definition" is "in the sense | of" saying that you "find the Jesus metaphor good." Well, bully for | you! Well, you asked the question. | What does "the Jesus metapohor" mean exactly? I have no idea what you mean | by it. And why are you so reluctant to endorse even that that you must use | phrases like "in the sense of"? And what does it mean to "find it good"? The Jesus metaphor means using a story to make useful moral points. "In the sense" of means giving a definition of "Christian" in the context of answering your question of whether I am one, not in the sense of a dictionary definition. "To find it good" means I find it a with . | Talk about weasel words ... Whatever you think is fine with me. I will say that I'm a bit distrustful of people who see religion in black and white. | You seem stuck between fundamentalism and agnosticism. | [Bethany] The agnosticism I can see. In fact, I really don't understand how anybody can be so sure of himorherself as not to be basically an agnostic. But where are you getting the idea of fundamentalism? That's the farthest thing from any religious thought I'd ever had. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Is ggs still listed? | Betty No, I don't think so. I think that abht left it for a while since deleting it would be such a hard thing to do, but sooner or later it had to be done. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm tired of this archive stuff. Will stop now and hope that Wojo will rise again at some point. --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:48:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNmLwA001445 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:48:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00455659@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:20 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNjwx20397 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.66]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021111234740.LMO8150.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD0412F.A52BFE2D@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:45:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Basketball -- ATT: BRAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't know what this is about, but it doesn't look good: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0211/11/scolbball01.html -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:49:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNn1wA001449 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:49:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045566A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:48:00 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNlxx20644 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:59 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA05570 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:47:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B683138699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:47:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:47:58 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) Message-ID: <20021111234758.GB14005@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:21:48PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > Bethany (who consulted with her Spiritual Director as she composed this > response, co-authored by the two of us) But you sneaked in this snideness at the last minute: > Further, I think that your view of faith is frozen at a very primitive and > childish (literal) level, one which you appear to have rejected. When you > first posted about "furry little bodies" and multiple gods looking for > their own, I started to write, "I love it when you sound like you are 12 > years old." I did not - primarily because I do NOT love it when you sound > like you are 12 years old. I hate it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:51:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNp1wA001459 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:51:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004556A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:50:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603206 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:49:58 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNnKx20793 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:49:20 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gABNnJWh032038; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:49:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111155124.00a8db50@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:51:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:43 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: >In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, >organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg Be still my heart! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:51:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNphwA001465 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:51:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004556B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:50:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603280 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:50:41 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNofx20986 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:50:41 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA06509 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:50:40 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 63E6F38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:50:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:50:40 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day Message-ID: <20021111235040.GC14005@pobox.com> References: <3DD038EE.FA67C28B@maynor.net> <4.2.2.20021111154441.00a8b280@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021111154441.00a8b280@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:44:59PM -0800, Betty wrote: > At 05:10 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >I can't get to my mail since wojomedia appears to be dead or asleep > >right now. And I was not able to accomplish the things I needed to > >accomplish in my office between 7 and 10 a.m. because the storms had > >zapped parts of the campus network, meaning I couldn't get online to > >find the address for a letter of recommendation I needed to write, > >couldn't write the letter because I couldn't get to Wordperfect, > >couldn't work on the syllabus I was planning to work on, couldn't do > >much of anything. Couldn't even use my Moneymate card to buy a coke > >since the card-reader said "system down." Everything came back up > >while I was in my 10:00 class, but I had no time after that to do the > >things I had hoped to do before that. Sort of like Wojo will probably > >come back to life just as it's time for me to leave the computer > >tonight. . > >-- > > Sucks to be you. That's fine, there will be NAKED POOL BOYS ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:52:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNqiwA001469 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:52:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB1F2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:51:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603335 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:51:42 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNpgx21088 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:51:42 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA06906 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:51:42 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id CFE0238699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:51:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:51:41 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021111235141.GD14005@pobox.com> References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> <4.2.2.20021111155124.00a8db50@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021111155124.00a8db50@uclink.berkeley.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:51:36PM -0800, Betty wrote: > At 05:43 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > >In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > >organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > > Be still my heart! Stop the hate From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 17:53:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gABNrFwA001473 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:53:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB1FF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:52:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:52:13 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gABNqCx21177 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:52:13 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.86]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5FRIH02.588 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:49:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:50:43 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > alyce cresap said: > > Tonight ABC 8:00 est > > Yeah. I can't figure out if this is a good thing or a bad thing. A Good Thing. Unless you live in a market where the ABC elects to show some football game instead. 8-) (And here I thought they reran "Galaxy Quest" Friday in lieu because Tony Shaloob was in it.) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:01:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC01XwA001539 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:01:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00455796@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:00:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603716 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:00:31 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC00Vx21926 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:00:31 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gAC00Tw24674 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:00:29 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:01:35 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Archival Reply Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DCFB83F.16455.124946F@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <200211112334.gABNYVR08294@Archive.MsState.Edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 11 Nov 2002 at 17:34, maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: > Why is this a course for me? Because you haven't learned to be sufficiently obnoxious about your religion? mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:05:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC05rwA001553 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:05:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004557F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:04:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3603965 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:04:52 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC04px22440 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:04:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.28.2f9ea908 (17228) for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:04:46 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <28.2f9ea908.2b019f9e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:04:46 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Not a Good Computer Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2002 5:50:52 PM Central Standard Time, scribble@POBOX.COM writes: << That's fine, there will be NAKED POOL BOYS ... >> That lets me out. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:15:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0FEwA001604 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:15:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB32B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:14:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3604332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:14:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0E7x23221 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:14:07 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.86]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5FSJI00.E9D for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:11:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD04785.6ABE4527@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:12:54 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Veterans Day References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> <002001c289b6$44ac2220$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild wrote: > He should add another one to his jump-log, this time with > "streamer" listed as chute. Hey, Al did you catch any of Gunny Ermy's marathon today? "DID I SAY YOU COULD GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THAT BARCLOUNGER?" > What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? Repetitive overflights of the B-17 "Sentimental Journey" above the graves of the RAF cadets who died in training here. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:37:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0buwA001744 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:37:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00455B02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:36:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:36:53 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0arx25295 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:36:53 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA24194 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:36:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A0BC838699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:36:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:36:51 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day Message-ID: <20021112003651.GG14005@pobox.com> References: <28.2f9ea908.2b019f9e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <28.2f9ea908.2b019f9e@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:04:46PM -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/11/2002 5:50:52 PM Central Standard Time, > scribble@POBOX.COM writes: > > << > That's fine, there will be NAKED POOL BOYS ... > > >> > > That lets me out. How naive of you. It's person-specific. You want golden skinned houris, you got golden skinned houris From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:45:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0jtwA001794 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:45:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00455BA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:44:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605620 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:44:53 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0irx26061 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:44:53 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:44:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD04F86.846B0D32@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:02 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> <20021111230215.GC6533@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:42:46PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > > I am not of The True Faith. > > I don't know what that means, My college roommate was Catholic and she always told me it was The True Faith. > since Allah appeared to me > yesterday while I was drinking tea in the empty lot near > Oak and Orleans, and said you will eventually be spending > eternal quality time with NAKED POOL BOYS. Looking forward! alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:48:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0mUwA001808 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:48:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00455BD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605677 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:28 -0500 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0lRx26242 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:28 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.1a7.bc66b4c (17228) for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:16 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1a7.bc66b4c.2b01a993@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:15 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Not a Good Computer Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2002 6:36:57 PM Central Standard Time, scribble@POBOX.COM writes: << How naive of you. It's person-specific. You want golden skinned houris, you got golden skinned houris >> Still not what I'm looking for. All I want is a little farm where I can raise pumpkins and cats. And plenty of time to read. And no telephones, except one for emergencies. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:48:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0mcwA001811 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:48:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00455BDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0lax26249 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:36 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-169.panax.com [63.163.41.169]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0lVt24950 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:31 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111193442.00b6f3d0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <20021111225251.GB6533@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111152711.00b129a0@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111152711.00b129a0@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:52 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, you wrote: >On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:33:40PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > > Where I was in India (on the Bay of Bengal), > >When and for how long? It was either late (December) 1977 or 1978. As for how long---in the first 24 hours there (spent mostly in and around airports in Bombay and Madras), it was too damned long. After a few days in the countryside of Tamal Nadu (Mahabilipuram was, I believe, the Brit spelling of the town; the indigenous spelling was approximately Mammalipuram), not long enough. All in all, we were there for about a week, playing at being very respected foreign scientists representing the U.N. and all that. We stayed at an Indian Tourist Commission place--Temple Bay, I seem to remember. The other big group staying there was a group of Russians from Siberia (talk about loud red sunburns) who, when they found out that Americans were in our group, would not talk to us. Where we stayed was in the midst of the temple district; the monolithic temples were astounding. For a Yank, it also was sobering to stand on the seashore near a partly submerged 10th or 11th Century pagoda and look down the shoreline to, dimly in the distance, the Madras nuclear power plant---and realize that by doing so, one was spanning some thousand years of history and culture. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:48:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0mdwA001814 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:48:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00455BDB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0lUx26247 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:30 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-169.panax.com [63.163.41.169]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0lRt24934 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:27 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111193054.00b6f5c0@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:31:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Archival Reply In-Reply-To: <3DCFB83F.16455.124946F@localhost> References: <200211112334.gABNYVR08294@Archive.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:01 PM 11/11/2002 -1000, mem wrote: >On 11 Nov 2002 at 17:34, maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: > > > Why is this a course for me? > >Because you haven't learned to be sufficiently obnoxious about your >religion? In which case, Bethany is the obvious mentor. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:48:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0mkwA001817 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:48:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB4C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605703 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:44 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0lhx26280 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:43 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA28202 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 144FC38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:47:42 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New book Message-ID: <20021112004742.GH14005@pobox.com> References: <20021108180127.32C267C36@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021108180127.32C267C36@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:01:27AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > >From LINGUIST list: > > Title: The Big Book of Concepts > Series Title: Bradford Books > Publication Year: 2002 So how are you finding it? Is it as interesting as "Articulating Reasons: An Introduction to Inferentialism", a nontechnical outline by Bob Brandom of some of the themes of his "Making It Explicit"? Due to a coincidence of life-events scarcely to be believed, I am now reading what seems to be a mathematical beefing-up of the book. I refer to "Causality" by Judea Pearl. It is not as slick with the philosophical burbling, obviously, but it is mathematical enough that even Dr Voigtlander will hesitate to call it crap. The power of mathematical sigils is not to be sneered at. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 18:53:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC0rOwA001832 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:53:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB50C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:22 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0qLx26919 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:21 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-169.panax.com [63.163.41.169]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0qIt26087 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111195030.00b6d570@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: New book In-Reply-To: <20021112004742.GH14005@pobox.com> References: <20021108180127.32C267C36@yellow.rahul.net> <20021108180127.32C267C36@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:47 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: >Due to a coincidence of life-events scarcely to be believed, I am >now reading what seems to be a mathematical beefing-up of the book. >I refer to "Causality" by Judea Pearl. It is not as slick with the >philosophical burbling, obviously, but it is mathematical enough >that even Dr Voigtlander will hesitate to call it crap. I know not to which Dr. V. you refer; as for me, mathematics is overrated. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:01:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC11LwA001896 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:01:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00455CD8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:00:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605801 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:00:19 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC0oJx26617 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:50:19 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAC0oHPd004420 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:50:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:50:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Archival Reply In-Reply-To: <200211112334.gABNYVR08294@Archive.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: >Why is this a course for me? Because I care. >Well, you asked the question. Yes, and I am still waiting for an answer. >| What does "the Jesus metapohor" mean exactly? I have no idea what you mean >| by it. And why are you so reluctant to endorse even that that you must use >| phrases like "in the sense of"? And what does it mean to "find it good"? > >The Jesus metaphor means using a story to make useful moral points. >"In the sense" of means giving a definition of "Christian" in the context >of answering your question of whether I am one, not in the sense of a >dictionary definition. "To find it good" means I find it a >with . I almost give up - but not quite. I do care. >| Talk about weasel words ... > >Whatever you think is fine with me. I will say that I'm a bit distrustful >of people who see religion in black and white. So am I - bigtime! >| You seem stuck between fundamentalism and agnosticism. > >The agnosticism I can see. In fact, I really don't understand how anybody >can be so sure of himorherself as not to be basically an agnostic. But >where are you getting the idea of fundamentalism? That's the farthest >thing from any religious thought I'd ever had. >From your concerns about what roving preachers think about doctrine. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:02:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC125wA001900 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:02:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB583@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:01:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:01:02 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC112x27783 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:01:02 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:50:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD050DA.C2F74D05@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:42 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg You killed a zebra? alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:02:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC126wA001903 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:02:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00455CE7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:01:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606283 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:01:03 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC113x27787 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:01:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:52:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD05153.C359B19F@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:54:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > A Good Thing. Unless you live in a market where the ABC elects to > show some football game instead. Come east and you can see both. I have two empty rooms w/private bath. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:04:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC14twA001914 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:04:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00455D26@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606463 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:53 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC13rx28073 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:53 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB5C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:53 -0500 Message-Id: <200211120103.gAC13rx28073@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:53 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wanted to reply about the smallpox shot (I never got one), but this dumb system won't let you quote :-( I'm leaving Earthlink as soon as I get to Idaho. (You DID get that post I hope, because it never showed up on my copy of the list. Anyway, I'm finally getting through again for the time being, anyway. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:15:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1FpwA001982 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:15:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB654@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:14:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:14:49 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1Emx29642 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:14:49 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAC1ElWh022819; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:14:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111171638.00aa1510@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:17:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) In-Reply-To: <200211120103.gAC13rx28073@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:03 PM 11/11/2002 -0500, Theodora Groothof wrote: >I wanted to reply about the smallpox shot (I never got one), but this >dumb system won't let you quote :-( >I'm leaving Earthlink as soon as I get to Idaho. (You DID get that post I >hope, because it never showed up on my copy of the list. Anyway, I'm >finally getting through again for the time being, anyway. >Theo Idaho? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:19:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1JtwA002004 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:19:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB680@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:18:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:18:52 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:g+WHGSTm1e3iHIqzOKVQc9AvbjIVS8FA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC18qx28940 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:08:52 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0627B2FE5A for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D75E87C41; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:08:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 11, 2002 4:50:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:08:51 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112010851.D75E87C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > A Good Thing. Unless you live in a market where the ABC elects to > show some football game instead. 8-) Are there markets like that?! > (And here I thought they reran "Galaxy Quest" Friday in lieu because > Tony Shaloob was in it.) Ah. I missed that. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:21:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1LYwA002013 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:21:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB69A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:20:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606735 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:20:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:xOYW+zy5XU8aX1yMy0QC0MNRnwpGeeAN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1AVx29157 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:10:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2D7A2FEC6 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B8BFD7C4A; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:10:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Hey, Natalie! To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:10:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112011030.B8BFD7C4A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU If you use the UGA archives, you don't have to clump replies. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:33:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1XTwA002098 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00455E13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:14:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606931 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:14:12 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1ECx29584 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:14:12 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAC1E6Wh016304; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:14:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111171546.00a9c4e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:16:22 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <3DD05153.C359B19F@valstar.net> References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:54 PM 11/11/2002 -0500, alyce cresap wrote: >John Williams wrote: > > A Good Thing. Unless you live in a market where the ABC elects to > > show some football game instead. > >Come east and you can see both. I have two empty rooms w/private bath. Is your dog walker still showing up, Alyce? Have you noticed an increase in his vocabulary? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:33:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1XTwA002094 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00455D62@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:06:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606625 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:05:55 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC15sx28443 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:05:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA04164 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:05:54 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 046C738699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:05:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:05:53 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021112010553.GI14005@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111152711.00b129a0@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111152711.00b129a0@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111193442.00b6f3d0@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111193442.00b6f3d0@mail.panax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:47:23PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > Where we stayed was in the midst of the temple district; the monolithic > temples were astounding. For a Yank, it also was sobering to stand on the > seashore near a partly submerged 10th or 11th Century pagoda and look > down the shoreline to, dimly in the distance, the Madras nuclear power > plant---and realize that by doing so, one was spanning some thousand > years of history and culture. This makes me think you might like one of the books which my brother in law gave me: "The Idea of India" by Sunil Khilnani. It's a short book and a pretty fast read (I speak as someone stuck in chapter 3), probably because there are no dumb cliches in there. Very well-written and very thought-provoking in my opinion. In the picture above there's something very right and something very wrong, and this book might help put it in words. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:33:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1XTwA002096 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00455D93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:08:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:08:28 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC18Rx28876 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:08:28 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA05118 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:08:27 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6008838699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:08:27 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:08:27 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day Message-ID: <20021112010827.GK14005@pobox.com> References: <1a7.bc66b4c.2b01a993@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1a7.bc66b4c.2b01a993@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:47:15PM -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/11/2002 6:36:57 PM Central Standard Time, > scribble@POBOX.COM writes: > > << > How naive of you. It's person-specific. You want golden > skinned houris, you got golden skinned houris > > >> > > Still not what I'm looking for. All I want is a little farm where > I can raise pumpkins and cats. And plenty of time to read. > And no telephones, except one for emergencies. Then you don't need the True Faith. A lottery win, maybe. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:33:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1XTwA002097 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00455DE0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:12:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606841 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:12:13 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1CDx29354 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:12:13 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA06365 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:12:12 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5C82E38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:12:12 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:12:12 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New book Message-ID: <20021112011212.GL14005@pobox.com> References: <20021108180127.32C267C36@yellow.rahul.net> <20021108180127.32C267C36@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021111195030.00b6d570@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111195030.00b6d570@mail.panax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:52:15PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 06:47 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, tushar wrote: > >Due to a coincidence of life-events scarcely to be believed, I am > >now reading what seems to be a mathematical beefing-up of the book. > >I refer to "Causality" by Judea Pearl. It is not as slick with the > >philosophical burbling, obviously, but it is mathematical enough > >that even Dr Voigtlander will hesitate to call it crap. > > I know not to which Dr. V. you refer; You obviously need An Introduction To Inferentialism. > as for me, mathematics is overrated. I didn't overrate it. The dumb dick-sizing space program did. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:33:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1XTwB002094 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00455E31@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:15:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606608 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:15:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:VSB2Y7zY5sXz83SNUTzTsDAefUr7uDcX@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC15Sx28371 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:05:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D07A2FE48 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 659377C4A; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:05:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: New book In-Reply-To: <20021112004742.GH14005@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 6:47:42 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:05:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112010527.659377C4A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:01:27AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > >From LINGUIST list: > > > > Title: The Big Book of Concepts > > Series Title: Bradford Books > > Publication Year: 2002 > > So how are you finding it? I just provided the citation, I'm not reading it. > Is it as interesting as "Articulating > Reasons: An Introduction to Inferentialism", a nontechnical outline > by Bob Brandom of some of the themes of his "Making It Explicit"? It reminded me of it. > Due to a coincidence of life-events scarcely to be believed, I am LOL. > now reading what seems to be a mathematical beefing-up of the book. > I refer to "Causality" by Judea Pearl. It is not as slick with the > philosophical burbling, obviously, but it is mathematical enough > that even Dr Voigtlander will hesitate to call it crap. The power > of mathematical sigils is not to be sneered at. sigil? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:33:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1XTwA002095 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00455D74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:07:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606663 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:07:05 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC175x28676 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:07:05 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA04660 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:07:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8C9B738699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:07:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:07:04 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112010704.GJ14005@pobox.com> References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> <3DD050DA.C2F74D05@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD050DA.C2F74D05@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:52:42PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > > You killed a zebra? Why do you have to hate? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:33:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1XTwB002095 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00455E5E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:18:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:18:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:nB6U/tW8QMVjxbMgl/GMUM7kmNWK2TX2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC189x28827 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:08:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BF62FE5A for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A14F7C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:08:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 5:43: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:08:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112010808.8A14F7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg I'll come work for you! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:37:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1bKwA002121 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:37:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00455FCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:36:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3607834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:36:17 -0500 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1aHx32442 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:36:17 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.ea.30fcf570 (18555) for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:36:09 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Not a Good Computer Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/11/2002 7:08:34 PM Central Standard Time, scribble@POBOX.COM writes: << Then you don't need the True Faith. A lottery win, maybe. >> I can't have all that in Heaven? I could put the golden-skinned houris to work as farmhands. :) And what's a witch without cats? We could be getting a lottery in Oklahoma. It's going to replace cockfighting. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:42:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1glwA002136 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:42:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB957@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:41:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3608897 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:41:21 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1fLx00591 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:41:21 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5F006IAWOVP6@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:41:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:41:56 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Veterans Day To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD05C64.4020501@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <4.2.2.20021111125659.00a7f250@uclink.berkeley.edu> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > At 08:50 PM 11/11/2002 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:59:24PM +0100, stevie wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: >>> = What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds >>> today? >>> = >>> = Amy >>> >>> The French had the day off. Yay! >> >> >> The Belgians had the day off. Yay! > > > *I* have the day off. Yay! > > Thanks, all you Veterans. I did *not* have the day off. Other than no mail, I've seen no indication that today is Veteran's Day. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:46:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1kZwA002169 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:46:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FB9AF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:45:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609121 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:45:32 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1jWx01264 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:45:32 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5F0051TWVVQX@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:45:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:46:07 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: The rumors are true To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD05D5F.6000706@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg I think we've found the solution to Karen's dog problem. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:48:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1mRwA002175 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:48:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004560F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3607908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:47:24 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1bOx32659 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:37:24 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAC1bMPd030255 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:37:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:37:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Evelyn Duncan wrote: >We could be getting a lottery in Oklahoma. It's going to replace >cockfighting. hahahahaha! In TN, we don;t even pretend that our lottery, almost a sure thing now, will replace Cocke County cockfighting. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:53:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1rrwA002204 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:53:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456126@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:52:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609402 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:52:50 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1qox02131 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:52:50 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.86]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5FX4101.D8G for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:50:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD05EA7.65B41891@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:51:35 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021112010851.D75E87C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > John Williams said: > > A Good Thing. Unless you live in a market where the ABC elects to > > show some football game instead. 8-) > > Are there markets like that?! Yes, there are. > > (And here I thought they reran "Galaxy Quest" Friday in lieu because > > Tony Shaloob was in it.) > > Ah. I missed that. Too bad. Its not bad, and I usually watch it by default. John "Never give up! Never surrender!" W. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 19:57:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC1vEwA002231 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:57:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBA51@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:56:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609149 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:56:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:8RN0QaMsgXiCtb48L/lfo95eZ+s9YaN/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC1kBx01315 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:46:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39002FE4A for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:46:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9883E7C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:46:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <3DD05D5F.6000706@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 11, 2002 7:46: 7 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:46:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112014610.9883E7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > > > I think we've found the solution to Karen's dog problem. LOL. It's winter, now; we're unlikely to be outside at the same time. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 20:35:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC2ZBwA002465 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:35:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBC85@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:34:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3610791 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:34:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:FMa8R7+rqoSF5a8bdVA+KsQ5ATvGO1C0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC2O7x05771 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:24:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9415D2FE4A for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0C0817C31; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:24:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <3DD05EA7.65B41891@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 11, 2002 6:51:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:24:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112022405.0C0817C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > John Williams said: > > > A Good Thing. Unless you live in a market where the ABC elects to > > > show some football game instead. 8-) > > > > Are there markets like that?! > > Yes, there are. So do they show it another night, or are you expected to do without?! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 20:39:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC2dxwA002496 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:39:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00456410@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:38:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611388 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:38:56 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC2cux07105 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:38:56 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:38:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD06A3D.3FC3A039@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:41:01 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Speaking of Gods (a definition of Christian)) References: <200211120103.gAC13rx28073@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > > I wanted to reply about the smallpox shot (I never got one), but this > dumb system won't let you quote :-( > I'm leaving Earthlink as soon as I get to Idaho. (You DID get that post I > hope, because it never showed up on my copy of the list. Anyway, I'm > finally getting through again for the time being, anyway. I did not see a post that you are going to Idaho! When? Why? How? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 20:41:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC2fnwA002510 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:41:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045642B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:40:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:40:46 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC2ekx07242 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:40:46 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD06AAF.ACA72FD3@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:42:55 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021112010851.D75E87C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Next week is a rerun of the Earthquake episode. Tonight's was in Austin. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 20:45:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC2jVwA002548 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:45:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045646B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:44:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611567 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:44:28 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC2iSx07609 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:44:28 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:44:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD06B80.31CA5953@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:46:24 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20021111171546.00a9c4e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > Is your dog walker still showing up, Alyce? Have you noticed an increase > in his vocabulary? He's been coming, but didn't show yesterday and today. I called tonight about 5 to ask if he was OK. He went to a friend's house, so I spoke to his father who was steamed that Riley had not come. He said that Riley will be here tomorrow. I told Dad not to be too hard on the kid or he will not want to come at all. Yes, his vocabulary is fine. We have very brief conservations and he has been smiling and pleasant. I don't know why suddenly he didn't come. I am worried that he doesn't want to help any more. Tomorrow I will know more. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 20:48:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC2mRwA002567 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:48:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBD21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:47:24 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC2lOx07960 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:47:24 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD06C3B.FA31D050@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:49:31 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20021111171546.00a9c4e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DD06B80.31CA5953@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > We have very brief conservations and conversations, too. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 20:55:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC2tvwA002591 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:55:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBD86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:54:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:54:48 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (daemon@Archive.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC2ilx07652 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:44:47 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.9.3/MsState-Archive/1.9); id gAC2ihg17991 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:44:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:44:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200211120244.gAC2ihg17991@Archive.MsState.Edu> From: maynor@archive.msstate.edu To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Archival Continuation Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Guessing how many dd's to do here to get down to approximately where I left off earlier... | I've seen xeriscaped yards that I like better than the Burpee ... | Karen I bet you'd love my Burpee seed clock. Remind me to take a picture of it sometime and post it. Somebody in the family (maybe me) gave it to Daddy for a birthday or whatever many years ago. I don't have its bottom part set to give planting dates etc., but it's a neat clock anyway. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Are you lurking, Frank, or are you on nomail? When did you move to > Missouri? Say something!! | Where? | Karen U of. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Why is this a course for me? | Because I care. About what? >Well, you asked the question. | Yes, and I am still waiting for an answer. I've given the best answer I can give. If you want an definition, you can find one in any number of books. You asked for my personal definition. Apparently you don't find it . But there's nothing I can do about that. >The Jesus metaphor means using a story to make useful moral points. >"In the sense" of means giving a definition of "Christian" in the context >of answering your question of whether I am one, not in the sense of a >dictionary definition. "To find it good" means I find it a >with . | I almost give up - but not quite. I do care. Almost give up on what and care about what? >The agnosticism I can see. In fact, I really don't understand how anybody >can be so sure of himorherself as not to be basically an agnostic. But >where are you getting the idea of fundamentalism? That's the farthest >thing from any religious thought I'd ever had. | From your concerns about what roving preachers think about doctrine. Roving preachers?? I'm trying to remember what I've said about roving preachers and doctrines, much less being concerned about their opinions. WAIT! Is this a reference to my saying that I grew up in a liberal church, where preachers didn't necessarily believe in things like the virgin birth? If that's what you're referring to, then I'm not sure that the word "concern" is relevant, although my guess is that if I'd been exposed to literalist hell-fire-and-damnation preachers in my younger life, I would have likely been able to answer your question very quickly about whether I was a xtian and what my definition was -- no and sad idiots. So yes, I do think my early exposure made a difference in the development of my attitudes. I was not exposed to fundamentalists. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I'm leaving Earthlink as soon as I get to Idaho. (You DID get that post I | hope, because it never showed up on my copy of the list. Anyway, I'm | finally getting through again for the time being, anyway. | Theo Idaho? You're moving in with Cyclops? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You killed a zebra? | Why do you have to hate? One bad thing about not going back and forth to Hville anymore is that I don't see the zebras in West Point very often. They live with wildebeestes. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | If you use the UGA archives, you don't have to clump replies. | Karen I tried them once but found them too complicated. You have to have a password. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | I did *not* have the day off. Other than no mail, I've seen |no indication that today is Veteran's Day. -- |Rita Rouvalis Chapman I thought it was kind of neat that the p.o. holiday fell on the real Armistice Day. But nothing I know of except the p.o. was closed. UPS was delivering as usual today. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:03:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC33KwA002647 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:03:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBE22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:02:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3612359 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:02:17 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC32Gx09387 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:02:16 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:02:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD06FB7.7E662AEB@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:04:23 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Archival Continuation References: <200211120244.gAC2ihg17991@Archive.MsState.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: > > > I bet you'd love my Burpee seed clock. Remind me to take a picture > of it sometime and post it. I have one, too. But I have lost the instructions on how to set it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:09:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC39awA002694 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:09:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00456645@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:08:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3612562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:08:33 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC38Wx09900 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:08:32 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAC38VWh011860; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:08:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111191015.00a8bb10@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:10:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <3DD06B80.31CA5953@valstar.net> References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20021111171546.00a9c4e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:46 PM 11/11/2002 -0500, alyce cresap wrote: >Betty wrote: > > > > Is your dog walker still showing up, Alyce? Have you noticed an increase > > in his vocabulary? > >He's been coming, but didn't show yesterday and today. I called tonight >about 5 to ask if he was OK. He went to a friend's house, so I spoke to >his father who was steamed that Riley had not come. He said that Riley >will be here tomorrow. I told Dad not to be too hard on the kid or he >will not want to come at all. > >Yes, his vocabulary is fine. We have very brief conservations and he has >been smiling and pleasant. I don't know why suddenly he didn't come. I >am worried that he doesn't want to help any more. Tomorrow I will know >more. You should ask him to please let you know when he is not able to make it. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:15:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3FZwA002741 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:15:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBED8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:14:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3612839 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:14:32 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (daemon@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3EVx10613 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:14:31 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18); id gAC3ETD03738 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:14:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:14:30 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200211120314.gAC3ETD03738@Ra.MsState.Edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Typo/Burpee Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > <<< 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:11:14 -0600 (CST) > From: maynor@archive.msstate.edu > Subject: Burpee > > This was easy. Just a quick 'tail' command popped up this: > > > > I bet you'd love my Burpee seed clock. Remind me to take a picture > > of it sometime and post it. > > | I have one, too. But I have lost the instructions on how to set it. > > | alyce > > I keep thinking that the instructions to mine must be somewhere. Daddy > was a major packrat of instructions or other little pieces of paper. > But I haven't seen them. And I haven't explored trying to set that part. > So is yours really the same as mine? The man in the moon is near the > top of the face of the clock and some vegetables near the bottom. Under > that are the planting-season dials, and then at the bottom is a "time to > plant Burpee seeds" chart. > --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) > > --gAC3BGj19266.1037070676/Archive.MsState.Edu-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:20:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3KQwA002772 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:20:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456739@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:19:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3612639 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:19:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:cbUbylzPnKtX3dPSrmzrpN1vCd65VUV6@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC39Mx10031 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:09:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816BF2FE7C for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4F05A7C44; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <3DD06AAF.ACA72FD3@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 11, 2002 9:42:55 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:09:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112030921.4F05A7C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Next week is a rerun of the Earthquake episode. Tonight's was in Austin. Yes, with Willie Nelson. I taped it to enjoy at my leisure. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:22:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3MkwA002786 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:22:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBF80@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:21:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3612756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:21:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Gi2YUBoVW9/uk3J9+qlNmXuQMYvtpskk@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3Bgx10328 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:11:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E382FDC7 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9A2087C43; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:11:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Archival Continuation In-Reply-To: <200211120244.gAC2ihg17991@Archive.MsState.Edu> from "maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU" at "Nov 11, 2002 8:44:43 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:11:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112031141.9A2087C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU said: > | If you use the UGA archives, you don't have to clump replies. > > | Karen > > I tried them once but found them too complicated. You have to have > a password. You set your own password. It's no harder than setting up anything else. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:22:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3MwwA002789 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:22:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00456778@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:21:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613160 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:21:54 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3Lsx11464 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:21:54 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAC3LoWh023254; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:21:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021111192227.00aa2e30@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:24:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <20021112030921.4F05A7C44@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD06AAF.ACA72FD3@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:09 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >alyce cresap said: > > Next week is a rerun of the Earthquake episode. Tonight's was in Austin. > >Yes, with Willie Nelson. I taped it to enjoy at my leisure. I was so glad that Larry taped Boston Public for me. I was cracking up watching it this morning. I am mutant about Monk. Is it a new religious show that Bethany recommended to Natalie? Isn't that Munk? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:24:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3OowA002794 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:24:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FBFAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:23:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613261 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:23:47 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3Nlx11682 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:23:47 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:23:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD074BC.86F95586@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:25:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! References: <20021111173043.5DED77C46@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD04252.CA3EFF2D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <4.2.2.20021111171546.00a9c4e0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021111191015.00a8bb10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > You should ask him to please let you know when he is not able to make it. Yes, I did that a couple of weeks ago when he didn't come one day. But I guess he forgot. Or doesn't care. But the last ten days he has come regularly, and Saturday he said, "See you tomorrow," so it is a mystery why he didn't come or call. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:25:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3P2wA002798 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:25:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004567A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:23:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:23:59 -0500 Received: from imf24bis.bellsouth.net (mail024.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.64]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3Mcx11553 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:23:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.179.196]) by imf24bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021112032249.ONXJ10161.imf24bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:22:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD073F5.F4E31DA5@maynor.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:22:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Tornadoes and Highways Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU One last thought before I log off: I am glad that tornadoes don't follow highways. I think I mentioned last night that tornadoes were spotted in or near Louisville, about thirty miles south of here. Well, those were the tornadoes that zipped on to Columbus and demolished huge buildings on the MUW campus. If the tornadoes had been traveling in cars, they would've come through Starkville on the way from Louisville to Columbus. But they weren't. So Oktibbeha County was barefly affected. They traveled to the right of here. It's amazing that there was only one death in Lowndes County (our neighboring county -- where Columbus is) given how much destruction of buildings there was. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:25:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3PpwA002805 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:25:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004567C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:24:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613292 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:24:48 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3Omx11782 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:24:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:24:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD074FD.8D7FF04B@valstar.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:26:53 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Typo/Burpee References: <200211120314.gAC3ETD03738@Ra.MsState.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > So is yours really the same as mine? Yes, the same. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:27:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3RvwA002828 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:27:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004567F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:26:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613398 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:26:54 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3Qrx11984 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:26:53 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAC3QpQ09787 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:26:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000901c289fb$9cc8d800$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Question Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:28:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've been traveling, and today on the car radio I listened to an interview of someone connected with a new book that attempts to outline the various changes we will be seeing in various areas of our lives within the next few years. Some of it had to do with biotech discoveries, some with new modes of travel, etc. etc. I missed the introduction so didn't catch the name of the interviewee and am not sure of the book, but thought they said "Catalogue of Your Future". But they said it was available from B & N and I don't find it on their site, so perhaps I have the name wrong. Anyone have any idea what this book is or where I'd find it? It sounded pretty interesting. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:37:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3bqwA002891 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:37:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004568D0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:36:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613397 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:36:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:foV/dlgWP7tKMYeYTIQ4/MvZiLp4zpgp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3Qnx11977 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:26:49 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036062FF0C for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:26:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C7FAD7C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:26:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Typo/Burpee In-Reply-To: <200211120314.gAC3ETD03738@Ra.MsState.Edu> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 11, 2002 9:14:30 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:26:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112032648.C7FAD7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > > I keep thinking that the instructions to mine must be somewhere. Daddy > > was a major packrat of instructions or other little pieces of paper. > > But I haven't seen them. And I haven't explored trying to set that part. > > So is yours really the same as mine? The man in the moon is near the > > top of the face of the clock and some vegetables near the bottom. Under > > that are the planting-season dials, and then at the bottom is a "time to > > plant Burpee seeds" chart. Are these zone-dependent? I am enjoying what Costco describes as Marinated Mozzarella (fresh mozzarella in olive oil and basil, with a little red pepper) with sliced tomatoes from my garden over a mixture of greens from my garden: butter lettuce, arugula, sorrel, and lemon balm. Dang, I love having a garden! (But I wish I knew what was eating the bok choy.) Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:39:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3d4wA002895 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:39:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004568ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:38:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:38:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:d1L5FlytGWLdzAGqBDbUFvktKCI3SgfR@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3S0x12088 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:28:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51F22FE36 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 788DE7C48; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:27:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021111192227.00aa2e30@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 11, 2002 7:24: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:27:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112032759.788DE7C48@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > I am mutant about Monk. Is it a new religious > show that Bethany recommended to Natalie? Isn't that Munk? Er, no, that's monk, too. Monk is a phobic detective. I love him. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:40:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3ecwA002901 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:40:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045692A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:39:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613749 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:39:35 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3dYx13094 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:39:35 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA25613 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:39:34 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1D8B138699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:39:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:39:33 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112033933.GA3050@pobox.com> References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> <20021112010808.8A14F7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112010808.8A14F7C42@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:08:08PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > > I'll come work for you! I don't sponsor homewreckers. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:44:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3iZwA002912 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:44:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045698A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:43:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:43:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PX0BtKG4ZVOweZV9YESRNr+rEiWIlszw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3XVx12552 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:33:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E712FE0C for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8A8547C43; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <000901c289fb$9cc8d800$930332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 11, 2002 9:28:47 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:33:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112033330.8A8547C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > I've been traveling, and today on the car > radio I listened to an interview of someone > connected with a new book that attempts > to outline the various changes we will be > seeing in various areas of our lives within > the next few years. Some of it had to do > with biotech discoveries, some with new > modes of travel, etc. etc. I missed the > introduction so didn't catch the name of > the interviewee and am not sure of the book, > but thought they said "Catalogue of Your > Future". > > But they said it was available from B & N > and I don't find it on their site, so perhaps > I have the name wrong. > > Anyone have any idea what this book is > or where I'd find it? It sounded pretty > interesting. Dictionary of the Future: The Words, Terms, and Trends That Define the Way We'll Live, Work, and Talk by Faith Popcorn and Adam Hanft? Here's the blurb: "Our revved-up world isn't just changing faster than ever before, it's creating new words and new language at breakneck speed. Now, Faith Popcorn, the futurist and trend authority who is known as the Nostradamus of marketing -- and Adam Hanft, author, business strategist and media critic -- have created the first-ever Dictionary of the Future, a thought-provoking, entertaining and richly informative collection of hundreds of new, emerging and just-invented words and terms. While traditional dictionaries wait for language to achieve familiarity, Dictionary of the Future is there first, enabling readers to identify the latest trends across all dimensions of the culture. Turn its pages and you see the future taking shape, word by word, idea by idea. Organized by familiar categories such as the arts, corporate America, education, health and technology -- and by provocative rubrics such as "New Behaviors" and "New Structures" -- Dictionary of the Future includes newly minted language such as: Yogurt Cities -- places with "active cultures" where baby boomers will retire. Chimeraplasty -- molecular messengers that will repair damaged genes. Free-Range Children -- new generation of kids raised without over-programming. Dictionary of the Future is an extraordinary advance look at tomorrow. More than fascinating reading, more than a treat for anyone who loves words, it's filled with valuable insights that can change the way you think about your business, your career, your health and, oh yes, the world." Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:47:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3lewA002942 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:47:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004569B7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:46:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613975 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:46:36 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3kax13759 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:46:36 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA27899 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:46:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AB96838699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:46:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:46:35 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! Message-ID: <20021112034635.GB3050@pobox.com> References: <4.2.2.20021111192227.00aa2e30@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20021112032759.788DE7C48@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112032759.788DE7C48@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is there a Scully character in Monk? It was playing on the big screen at the bar downstairs (from work), and she kind of looked like it. Highly absorbing show I must say--almost as much as switching the TV on and deducing from one frame that the female whose face you saw is trying to win over her new "boyfriend"'s sullen daughter. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:51:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3pewA002960 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:51:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456A29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:50:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614217 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:50:37 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3oax14275 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:50:36 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA29289 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:50:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id E52C438699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:50:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:50:35 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Archival Continuation Message-ID: <20021112035035.GC3050@pobox.com> References: <200211120244.gAC2ihg17991@Archive.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200211120244.gAC2ihg17991@Archive.MsState.Edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:44:43PM -0600, maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > | If you use the UGA archives, you don't have to clump replies. > > | Karen > > I tried them once but found them too complicated. You have to have > a password. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't worry about it, this clumping is giving all of us a much more authentic and real-time version of the Dr Mutant Experience. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:51:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3pkwA002964 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:51:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00456A2C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:50:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:50:43 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Lna3lTP/nEY96o5mHFxAS/rtryt25QLY@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3egx13202 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:40:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3454A2FF48 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 09E667C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:40:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112033933.GA3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 9:39:33 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:40:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:08:08PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Tushar Samant said: > > > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > > > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > > > > I'll come work for you! > > I don't sponsor homewreckers. Me? A homewrecker??? Nah, that's Borkin's fantasy. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:54:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3sAwA002981 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:54:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00456A83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:53:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:53:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3r7x14549 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:53:07 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C872FF61 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 8F8542B849; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD602B609 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:53:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:53:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Me? A homewrecker??? Nah, that's Borkin's fantasy. Hoo Boy am I ever sorry I said anything. But you -are- a WHORE, right? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:56:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3uxwA002990 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:56:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456ACF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:55:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:55:56 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3ttx14883 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:55:55 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA00805 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:55:55 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D355138699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:55:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:55:54 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <20021112035554.GD3050@pobox.com> References: <000901c289fb$9cc8d800$930332d1@0018079268> <20021112033330.8A8547C43@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112033330.8A8547C43@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:33:30PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Dictionary of the Future: The Words, Terms, and Trends That Define > the Way We'll Live, Work, and Talk by Faith Popcorn and Adam Hanft? > > Here's the blurb: "Our revved-up world isn't just changing faster than > ever before, it's creating new words and new language at breakneck > speed. Now, Faith Popcorn, the futurist and trend authority who is > known as the Nostradamus of marketing -- and Adam Hanft, author, > business strategist and media critic -- have created the first-ever > Dictionary of the Future, a thought-provoking, entertaining and richly > informative collection of hundreds of new, emerging and just-invented > words and terms. While traditional dictionaries wait for language to > achieve familiarity, Dictionary of the Future is there first, enabling > readers to identify the latest trends across all dimensions of the > culture. Turn its pages and you see the future taking shape, word by > word, idea by idea. Organized by familiar categories such as the arts, > corporate America, education, health and technology -- and by > provocative rubrics such as "New Behaviors" and "New Structures" -- > Dictionary of the Future includes newly minted language such as: > Yogurt Cities -- places with "active cultures" where baby boomers will > retire. Chimeraplasty -- molecular messengers that will repair damaged > genes. Free-Range Children -- new generation of kids raised without > over-programming. > > Dictionary of the Future is an extraordinary advance look at > tomorrow. More than fascinating reading, more than a treat for anyone > who loves words, it's filled with valuable insights that can change > the way you think about your business, your career, your health and, > oh yes, the world." Sounds like a real snore ... but it's pretty good that the Enrons of the world blew up before the publication date, hey? Now all trends are, like, biotech and shit ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:58:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3wiwA003002 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:58:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00456B0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:57:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614023 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:57:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:/2DHfw3krHnuiriuGHt18tx1v2fGIJ6w@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3lex13876 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:47:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C172FF53 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BA7157C43; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <20021112034635.GB3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 9:46:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112034739.BA7157C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Is there a Scully character in Monk? Yes, but not as smoothly cute as Scully. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 21:59:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC3xXwA003015 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:59:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FC1B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:58:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:58:23 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3wNx15248 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:58:23 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA01528 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:58:22 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 7FD3138699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:58:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:58:22 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> References: <20021112033933.GA3050@pobox.com> <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:40:41PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:08:08PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Tushar Samant said: > > > > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > > > > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > > > > > > I'll come work for you! > > > > I don't sponsor homewreckers. > > Me? A homewrecker??? Nah, that's Borkin's fantasy. Borkin, Borkin, Borkin! It's common knowledge you are a jumperslut, just bloody admit it ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:02:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC42NwA003044 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:02:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456BBE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:01:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3615973 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:01:18 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC41Ix16093 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:01:18 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA02427 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:01:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6A18638699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:01:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:01:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New book Message-ID: <20021112040117.GF3050@pobox.com> References: <20021112004742.GH14005@pobox.com> <20021112010527.659377C4A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112010527.659377C4A@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:05:27PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Title: The Big Book of Concepts > > > Is it as interesting as "Articulating > > Reasons: An Introduction to Inferentialism", a nontechnical outline > > by Bob Brandom of some of the themes of his "Making It Explicit"? > > It reminded me of it. I expect the book to be content-free, but let me not knock it till I've tried it ... > > Due to a coincidence of life-events scarcely to be believed, I am > > now reading what seems to be a mathematical beefing-up of the book. > > LOL. It was a total coincidence. Why do you have to hate? > sigil? Yes, K-R-N. Scatter a few math symbols on a page and they tend to shut up ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:07:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC47ZwA003066 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:07:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FC65F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:06:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3618172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:06:31 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC46Vx17401 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:06:31 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA03900 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:06:30 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3CE4E38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:06:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:06:30 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day Message-ID: <20021112040630.GG3050@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:36:09PM -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: > In a message dated 11/11/2002 7:08:34 PM Central Standard Time, > scribble@POBOX.COM writes: > > << > Then you don't need the True Faith. A lottery win, maybe. > >> > > I can't have all that in Heaven? Knock yourself out ... but a false faith will get you that fine, why break your back? > I could put the golden-skinned houris to work as farmhands. :) > And what's a witch without cats? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:07:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC47jwA003069 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:07:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456D1C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:06:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614681 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:06:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+ID7HiiCc+3QBZ7LAqkGcn23DQP5SWvf@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC3ugx14962 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:56:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0462FF61 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 953B67C44; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:56:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <20021112035554.GD3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 9:55:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:56:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112035641.953B67C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Sounds like a real snore ... but it's pretty good that the Enrons of > the world blew up before the publication date, hey? Now all trends > are, like, biotech and shit ... Haha! The other book I found was one by Francis Fukuyama, the end of history guy. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:10:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4AewA003078 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456D95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:09:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3618806 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:09:36 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC49ax17947 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:09:36 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA04650 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:09:35 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A60E038699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:09:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:09:35 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Monk! Message-ID: <20021112040935.GH3050@pobox.com> References: <20021112034635.GB3050@pobox.com> <20021112034739.BA7157C43@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112034739.BA7157C43@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:47:39PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > Is there a Scully character in Monk? > > Yes, but not as smoothly cute as Scully. Oh, these fine discriminations! Of course Scully looks as smoothly cute to me as a stale slice of ham, so I am hardly a gist.com critic ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:14:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4EXwA003091 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:14:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00456E02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3616916 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:su9E+TymTWAMqGynHZcLfwsYePiXLz4r@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC43Sx16598 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:03:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338142FDFB for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C18797C4A; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: New book In-Reply-To: <20021112040117.GF3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 10: 1:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:03:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112040327.C18797C4A@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > > sigil? > > Yes, K-R-N. Scatter a few math symbols on a page and they tend > to shut up ... This is a very nice work, and new to me. I like it! Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:17:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4HEwA003122 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:17:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00456E95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:16:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619161 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:16:10 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4GAx18740 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:16:10 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAC4G8Q26358 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:16:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002901c28a02$7f038520$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021112033330.8A8547C43@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Question Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:18:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland said: > [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > I've been traveling, and today on the car > > radio I listened to an interview of someone > > connected with a new book that attempts > > to outline the various changes we will be > > seeing in various areas of our lives within > > the next few years. Some of it had to do > > with biotech discoveries, some with new > > modes of travel, etc. etc. I missed the > > introduction so didn't catch the name of > > the interviewee and am not sure of the book, > > but thought they said "Catalogue of Your > > Future". > > > > But they said it was available from B & N > > and I don't find it on their site, so perhaps > > I have the name wrong. > > > > Anyone have any idea what this book is > > or where I'd find it? It sounded pretty > > interesting. > > Dictionary of the Future: The Words, Terms, and Trends That Define > the Way We'll Live, Work, and Talk by Faith Popcorn and Adam Hanft? > > Karen Thanks, Karen, but that does not sound like the book I heard described. It dealt more with technology than with language. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:24:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4OFwA003147 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:24:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00457084@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:23:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:23:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4+DDQimM3NPvAn3vIQXouwQAjnznYjKB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4DBx18338 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3212FF77 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6DC227C46; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:13:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Monk! In-Reply-To: <20021112040935.GH3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 10: 9:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:13:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112041310.6DC227C46@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Of course Scully looks as smoothly cute to me as a stale > slice of ham, so I am hardly a gist.com critic ... Hm. Stale ham slices are not smooth at all. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:30:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4U4wA003190 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:30:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FC899@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:29:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619744 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:29:00 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4T0x21318 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:29:00 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA11159 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:28:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9EA9138699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:28:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:28:59 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <20021112042859.GI3050@pobox.com> References: <20021112035554.GD3050@pobox.com> <20021112035641.953B67C44@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112035641.953B67C44@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:56:41PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Haha! The other book I found was one by Francis Fukuyama, the end of > history guy. You know I was reading an article by Richard Rorty about Fukuyama, talking like it is a pretty weighty contribution etc, and I guess I should have read it in full or whatever but I just got so tired of that shit that I threw the book away. Now that history has been rebooted by a couple or three airplanes, guess what, Rorty writes a magazine article stating that he has lost it completely and plans to submit to bottomless unreasoning terror. Now this doesn't apply to anybody as dazzlingly clever as him, but anybody notice how old people are predicting the onset of unprecedented chaos and destruction? This self-indulgent freaking generation just gets grosser every day-- now they don't even want a world to exist after they die. I'll tell you what's unprecedented--an expression of death-fear this disgusting is unprecedented. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:30:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4UmwA003195 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:30:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FC8A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:29:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:29:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:aDxA/5TFf/PpNkCwM6g425uYMFTGg9Q5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4Jix19726 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:19:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5592FE22 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CF3827C48; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:19:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Nov 11, 2002 7:53: 0 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:19:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112041943.CF3827C48@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > > Me? A homewrecker??? Nah, that's Borkin's fantasy. > > Hoo Boy am I ever sorry I said anything. Me, too. > But you -are- a WHORE, right? I am SO bad about looking at my mail--I mostly go through it for the good stuff and let the rest of it sit. So I've actually been a whore for a while and didn't know it. (Yes, I fear turning into your mother.) I *LOVE* this shirt!!!!! Has everyone seen it already? I don't remember seeing pictures. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:31:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4VIwA003200 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:31:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FC8B0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:DfzYBY2QRpYDnZe0oyw4CvDMmQ6IWaCq@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4KEx19804 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:20:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD032FE63 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C72697C46; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:20:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 9:58:22 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:20:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112042013.C72697C46@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:40:41PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Me? A homewrecker??? Nah, that's Borkin's fantasy. > > Borkin, Borkin, Borkin! It's common knowledge you are a jumperslut, > just bloody admit it ... What is a jumperslut? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:31:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4VkwA003208 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:31:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004572A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:42 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4Ugx21568 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:42 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA11788 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:30:41 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5BEE538699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:30:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:30:41 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112043041.GJ3050@pobox.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <20021112042013.C72697C46@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112042013.C72697C46@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:20:13PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:40:41PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Me? A homewrecker??? Nah, that's Borkin's fantasy. > > > > Borkin, Borkin, Borkin! It's common knowledge you are a jumperslut, > > just bloody admit it ... > > What is a jumperslut? Nice move ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:33:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4XIwA003217 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:33:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004572FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:32:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:32:14 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4WDx21790 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:32:14 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id WAA12286 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:32:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6E59C38699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:32:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:32:13 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: New book Message-ID: <20021112043213.GK3050@pobox.com> References: <20021112040117.GF3050@pobox.com> <20021112040327.C18797C4A@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112040327.C18797C4A@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:03:27PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > > sigil? > > > > Yes, K-R-N. Scatter a few math symbols on a page and they tend > > to shut up ... > > This is a very nice work, and new to me. I like it! How about "Tobagoan" for an inhabitant of Tobago? Pretty nifty what? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:34:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4YpwA003222 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:34:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FC8ED@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:33:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:33:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HW18vkso2mSsvdJXGnUoC80FlZSn7Kvw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4Nlx20274 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:23:47 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A670B2FE7D for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 806927C42; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:23:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <002901c28a02$7f038520$930332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 11, 2002 10:18: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:23:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112042346.806927C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > Dorsi factor is tempered by thoughtful assessments of what it all means. The new Markland said: > > [Charset Windows-1252 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > > > I've been traveling, and today on the car > > > radio I listened to an interview of someone > > > connected with a new book that attempts > > > to outline the various changes we will be > > > seeing in various areas of our lives within > > > the next few years. Some of it had to do > > > with biotech discoveries, some with new > > > modes of travel, etc. etc. I missed the > > > introduction so didn't catch the name of > > > the interviewee and am not sure of the book, > > > but thought they said "Catalogue of Your > > > Future". > > > > > > But they said it was available from B & N > > > and I don't find it on their site, so perhaps > > > I have the name wrong. > > > > > > Anyone have any idea what this book is > > > or where I'd find it? It sounded pretty > > > interesting. > > > > Dictionary of the Future: The Words, Terms, and Trends That Define > > the Way We'll Live, Work, and Talk by Faith Popcorn and Adam Hanf Each chapter ends with t? > > > > Karen > > Thanks, Karen, but that does not sound like > the book I heard described. It dealt more > with technology than with language. TechTV's Catalog Of Tomorrow Andrew Zolli (Editor) Foreword by Paul Saffo Preface by Howard Rheingold? http://tinyurl.com/2mbw Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 22:45:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC4jwwA003281 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:45:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004574BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:44:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:44:54 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:IN/bl1AO2f1QLPWVaSfKJuuYxyaw1vf3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4Ysx22158 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:34:54 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109F92FDFB for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CC8E17C44; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:34:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: New book In-Reply-To: <20021112043213.GK3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 10:32:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:34:53 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112043453.CC8E17C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:03:27PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Tushar Samant said: > > > > sigil? > > > > > > Yes, K-R-N. Scatter a few math symbols on a page and they tend > > > to shut up ... > > > > This is a very nice work, and new to me. I like it! Argh. *word*. You are a nice piece of work. > How about "Tobagoan" for an inhabitant of Tobago? Pretty nifty what? Better than Tobagoite. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 23:23:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC5NVwA003468 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:23:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FCC8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 0:22:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620713 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:21:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:CYSF0RnPbegrasV4jIdII0rV1TBkcgBi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC4oQx24245 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:50:26 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39732FF16 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:50:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8B8507C44; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:50:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <20021112042859.GI3050@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 11, 2002 10:28:59 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 20:50:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112045025.8B8507C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:56:41PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Haha! The other book I found was one by Francis Fukuyama, the end of > > history guy. > > You know I was reading an article by Richard Rorty about Fukuyama, > talking like it is a pretty weighty contribution etc, and I guess > I should have read it in full or whatever but I just got so tired > of that shit that I threw the book away. Now that history has been > rebooted by a couple or three airplanes, guess what, Rorty writes > a magazine article stating that he has lost it completely and plans > to submit to bottomless unreasoning terror. Now this doesn't apply > to anybody as dazzlingly clever as him, but anybody notice how old > people are predicting the onset of unprecedented chaos and destruction? > This self-indulgent freaking generation just gets grosser every day-- > now they don't even want a world to exist after they die. I'll tell > you what's unprecedented--an expression of death-fear this disgusting > is unprecedented. Sounds normal to me. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 23:26:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC5Q7wA003477 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:26:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00457A25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 0:25:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:25:03 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC5P3x28454 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:25:03 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-109.panax.com [65.114.190.109]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC5P2t12248 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:25:02 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:24:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112042013.C72697C46@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What is a jumperslut? >Karen That would be a denimjumperslut, like Amy. Large armholes. Side cleavage. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 23:28:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC5SdwA003488 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:28:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00457A69@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 0:27:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:27:35 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC5RZx28684 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:27:35 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id XAA29638 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:27:34 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A79E438699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:27:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:27:34 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Side cleavage. This is a ridiculous, etymology-disrespecting coinage. Whatever it means ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 23:31:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC5VJwA003519 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:31:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00457AAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 0:30:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624305 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:30:15 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC5UEx29093 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:30:14 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id XAA00496 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id CFF4938699; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:30:13 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <20021112053013.GB10322@pobox.com> References: <20021112042859.GI3050@pobox.com> <20021112045025.8B8507C44@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112045025.8B8507C44@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:50:25PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Tushar Samant said: > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:56:41PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Haha! The other book I found was one by Francis Fukuyama, the end of > > > history guy. > > > > You know I was reading an article by Richard Rorty about Fukuyama, > > talking like it is a pretty weighty contribution etc, and I guess > > I should have read it in full or whatever but I just got so tired > > of that shit that I threw the book away. Now that history has been > > rebooted by a couple or three airplanes, guess what, Rorty writes > > a magazine article stating that he has lost it completely and plans > > to submit to bottomless unreasoning terror. Now this doesn't apply > > to anybody as dazzlingly clever as him, but anybody notice how old > > people are predicting the onset of unprecedented chaos and destruction? > > This self-indulgent freaking generation just gets grosser every day-- > > now they don't even want a world to exist after they die. I'll tell > > you what's unprecedented--an expression of death-fear this disgusting > > is unprecedented. > > Sounds normal to me. No, I believe older generations went out with a bit more dignity. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mon Nov 11 23:37:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC5bSwA003536 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:37:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00457B53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 0:36:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3624124 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:36:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tJSH99kGKAH/JwoNgI0dUYd569Z0GdNN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC5QOx28578 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:26:24 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DCC2FDCE for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 7CF547C41; Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:26:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 12, 2002 0:24:42 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:26:23 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112052623.7CF547C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >What is a jumperslut? > >Karen > > That would be a denimjumperslut, like Amy. Large armholes. Side cleavage. Ah. I own no jumpers. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 01:09:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC79kwA004304 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:09:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00458453@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 2:08:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:08:37 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC6wbx04088 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:58:37 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAC6wbPd002832 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:58:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:58:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Archival Continuation In-Reply-To: <200211120244.gAC2ihg17991@Archive.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: I have no idea what an archive is (in Dr Maynor's definition) or why Dr Maynor gets to use it - - but here goes: >Guessing how many dd's to do here to get down to approximately where >I left off earlier... What are dds/dd's? --- >>Why is this a course for me? > >| Because I care. >>About what? About you ----- >>Well, you asked the question. > >| Yes, and I am still waiting for an answer. > >I've given the best answer I can give. If you want an definition, >you can find one in any number of books. You asked for my personal definition. Apparently you don't find it . But there's nothing I can do >about that. You have not given a definition. ----> >>The Jesus metaphor means using a story to make useful moral points. >>"In the sense" of means giving a definition of "Christian" in the context >>of answering your question of whether I am one, not in the sense of a >>dictionary definition. "To find it good" means I find it a >>with . > >| I almost give up - but not quite. I do care. > >Almost give up on what and care about what? You. You. ----- >>The agnosticism I can see. In fact, I really don't understand how anybody >>can be so sure of himorherself as not to be basically an agnostic. But >>where are you getting the idea of fundamentalism? That's the farthest >>thing from any religious thought I'd ever had. > > >| From your concerns about what roving preachers think about doctrine. > > >Roving preachers?? I'm trying to remember what I've said about roving >preachers and doctrines, much less being concerned about their opinions. You said that once you asked a preacher standing nearby about the virgin birth. As far as I could tell, you knew nothing about his training/education/ etc. - but you took his word as gospel. That suggests a pretty fundamentalist bent to me. ----- Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 01:18:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC7ICwA004361 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:18:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045853C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 2:17:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3629647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:17:07 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC7H7x07533 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:17:07 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAC7H5Q28152 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:17:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000901c28a1b$c5d7cec0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021112042346.806927C42@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Question Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:19:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >> > Thanks, Karen, but that does not sound like > > the book I heard described. It dealt more > > with technology than with language. > > TechTV's Catalog Of Tomorrow > Andrew Zolli (Editor) Foreword by Paul Saffo Preface by Howard > Rheingold? > > http://tinyurl.com/2mbw > > Karen That's gotta be it! Thanks! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 02:16:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC8G5wA004621 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:16:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FD5CE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 3:15:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:14:59 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC8Exx11596 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:14:59 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3H8VZ>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:15:03 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.nb.no (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3H8VY; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:15:01 +0100 From: Espen Ore To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021112091403.03170ef0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:14:50 +0100 Subject: Re: Speaking of Godlessness In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 12:49 11.11.2002 -0600 skrev Rita Rouvalis: >I think atheism or agnosticism is every bit as legitimate a philosophy as a >religion is, so I can imagine there would be a lot to talk about if one was >as interested in one's atheism as those who are interested in their >religion. Some people aren't really interested in either, of course, and >they would probably be non-attenders. > >I've found (like Paul) that those I know who are thinking atheists, etc. are >often more ethical/moral because they've taken the time to develop their >codes and think about them as opposed to those who have accepted a religion >but have never really thought about why or how they act. It has also been claimed that Buddhism is an atheistic religion, but maybe it would be better to call it agnostic. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 02:16:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC8G9wA004625 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:16:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00458A1D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 3:15:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631062 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:15:04 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC8F4x11644 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:15:04 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id CAA21623 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:15:03 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 174D238699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:15:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:15:02 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Charlie Rose Sucks Message-ID: <20021112081502.GA18288@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU When I switched the TV on, Charlie Rose, the world's least interesting man, was doing his show. But he was interviewing Juliann Moore, whom I thought I saw in "Uncle Vanya" or actually the movie based on it, where IMO she looked incredibly beautiful. Anyway, I wish I hadn't watched this interview, even the part I did, because like a lot of interviewed actors, she sounded like she was lying the whole time. Spouting a series of tiny lies. The overall effect was very unpleasant and she didn't look all that hot either. Alack! It was Chekhov who made her beautiful! Now this constant drizzle of insincere and shallow statements--it may be in the nature of "show business", or maybe she just has a sucking-up kind of temperament, but my theory is that it was based on a deeper lie, which is: the making of deeply considered pronouncements when there are no deep considerations. Why did she do that? What elicited this kind of lie? Correct ... it was Charlie Rose. Recall the Barbara Walters effect--every single person, when on her horrifying show, makes one kind of face, and speaks in one kind of tone. Which is of course that of a freakish grave understated seriousness, which invariably makes you look and sound like an idiot. Interviewers like these are pests and should be recognized as such and switched off. Let alone Howard Stern, Munir Mohammed on public access is a fantastically better interviewer. Why do I rant so? Ah, I rant as a man who once loved. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 02:16:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC8GmwA004632 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:16:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00458A2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 3:15:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631079 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:15:43 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC8Fgx11677 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:15:42 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gAC8HPp06136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:17:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:17:25 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Veterans Day Message-ID: <20021112091725.A6125@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> <20021111205924.A4801@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021111201759.GC19147@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021111201759.GC19147@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:59PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:59PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:59:24PM +0100, stevie wrote: = > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: = > = What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? = > = = > = Amy = > = > The French had the day off. Yay! = = Dignified version managers don't yay around like this. I am not the version manager. Yay! I am only occasionally dignified. Yay! I am going on vacation Friday morning. Yay! My layover in Chicago is not long enough to kiss your bald pate. Boo! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 02:20:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC8KHwA004656 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:20:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FD5E9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 3:19:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631136 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:19:12 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC8JBx11854 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:19:11 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id CAA22874 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:19:11 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 1100538699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:19:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:19:10 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Veterans Day Message-ID: <20021112081910.GB18288@pobox.com> References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> <20021111205924.A4801@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021111201759.GC19147@pobox.com> <20021112091725.A6125@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112091725.A6125@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 09:17:25AM +0100, stevie wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:17:59PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:59:24PM +0100, stevie wrote: > = > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: > = > = What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds today? > = > = > = > = Amy > = > > = > The French had the day off. Yay! > = > = Dignified version managers don't yay around like this. > > I am not the version manager. Yay! > > I am only occasionally dignified. Yay! > > I am going on vacation Friday morning. Yay! > > My layover in Chicago is not long enough to kiss your bald pate. Boo! Yay! I mean, Boo! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 02:21:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC8LmwA004672 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:21:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00458AA5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 3:20:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631162 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:20:43 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC8Kgx11936 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:20:42 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gAC8MPP06157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:22:25 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:22:25 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day Message-ID: <20021112092225.B6125@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <1a7.bc66b4c.2b01a993@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <1a7.bc66b4c.2b01a993@aol.com>; from BrandyKitt@AOL.COM on Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:47:15PM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:47:15PM -0500, Evelyn Duncan wrote: = In a message dated 11/11/2002 6:36:57 PM Central Standard Time, = scribble@POBOX.COM writes: = = << = How naive of you. It's person-specific. You want golden = skinned houris, you got golden skinned houris = = >> = = Still not what I'm looking for. All I want is a little farm where = I can raise pumpkins and cats. And plenty of time to read. = And no telephones, except one for emergencies. = There are no emergencies in the afterlife! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 02:30:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC8UnwA004737 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:30:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00458B58@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 3:29:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631319 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:29:44 -0500 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC8Tix12480 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:29:44 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.193.107d1abe (4222) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:29:37 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <193.107d1abe.2b0215f0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:29:36 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Not a Good Computer Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2002 2:20:18 AM Central Standard Time, stevie@MULTINIX.COM writes: << There are no emergencies in the afterlife! >> We don't know that. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 02:59:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAC8xGwA004883 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 02:59:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00458D2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 3:58:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:58:11 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAC8wAx14140 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 03:58:10 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY3H850>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:58:15 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY3H858; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:58:12 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021112095404.030fdff0@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:57:58 +0100 Subject: Re: Veterans Day In-Reply-To: <002001c289b6$44ac2220$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 14:12 11.11.2002 -0500 skrev Alan Wild: >Veterans, scouts, and assorted other service folk were spared rain this >morning. We paid our respects, fired guns in salute, prayed, made vows, There were guns (canons) fired in salute here yesterday as well - but that was a greeting between a Russian destroyer and the castle of Oslo marking the beginning of Putin's visit here. My office is just a little up the hill across the bay from the castle so I am getting used to the saluting. In Bergen I was used to the whistle on the daily arrival of one of the ships in the lines doing the cruise (or rather bus line or milk route with fixed stops and a time table) between Bergen and Finnmark in the north. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 04:45:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACAjVwA005414 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:45:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FDA52@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 5:44:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3634434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:44:25 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (daemon@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACAiOx21762 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:44:24 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18); id gACAiMp10637 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:44:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 04:44:22 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200211121044.gACAiMp10637@Ra.MsState.Edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Good Article Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good re the Iraq frenzy: http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1110-07.htm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 05:17:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACBH4wA005545 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:17:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004594B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 6:15:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3635165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 06:15:58 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (daemon@Archive.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACB5wx23247 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 06:05:58 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.9.3/MsState-Archive/1.9); id gACB5tI05555 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:05:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:05:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200211121105.gACB5tI05555@Archive.MsState.Edu> From: maynor@archive.msstate.edu To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: End of Yesterday Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen asks: > > that are the planting-season dials, and then at the bottom is a "time to > > plant Burpee seeds" chart. | Are these zone-dependent? Yes. You set the dials to show your last-frost/first-frost dates. --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 05:34:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACBYowA005616 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:34:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FDC30@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 6:33:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3635560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 06:33:44 -0500 Received: from Archive.MsState.Edu (daemon@Archive.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.18]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACBNix24387 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 06:23:44 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Archive.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.9.3/MsState-Archive/1.9); id gACBNfZ06011 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:23:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:23:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200211121123.gACBNfZ06011@Archive.MsState.Edu> From: maynor@archive.msstate.edu To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Beginning of Today Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is looking bad -- this being that wojo is still dead. I know that Tim is a night person, meaning I thought he would've fixed it during the night. Maybe it has a dead part that he's having to wait for. What a mess of mail there will be when it comes back up. >Guessing how many dd's to do here to get down to approximately where >I left off earlier... | What are dds/dd's? Line deletion. Like to delete the first 600 lines I'd enter '600 dd'. Unix rules -- pun not intended. >I've given the best answer I can give. If you want an definition, >you can find one in any number of books. You asked for my personal definition. Apparently you don't find it . But there's nothing I can do >about that. | You have not given a definition. Ok, how about this? A Christian is a person who agrees for the most part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named Jesus of Nazareth. >| From your concerns about what roving preachers think about doctrine. > > >Roving preachers?? I'm trying to remember what I've said about roving >preachers and doctrines, much less being concerned about their opinions. | You said that once you asked a preacher standing nearby about the virgin | birth. Ah -- he who had all the way downstairs from his office to the coke machine. | As far as I could tell, you knew nothing about his | training/education/ etc. Why do you think I wouldn't know that? The truth is that I can't remember the details now since this was a long time ago -- he's been dead for years now. I can't even remember where he got his PhD -- or DD I think it was. Do preachers still get DDs? Is that the right term -- something like Doctor of Divinity? Anyway, I don't know why you assumed that my mentioning of him required my giving details of his training and education. | - but you took his word as gospel. That suggests | a pretty fundamentalist bent to me. I took his word as gospel? No, I took his answer to my question as an example of the theological bent of my childhood church, and I mentioned it in this discussion for that same reason -- an illustration of the kind of xtianity I was exposed to in my growing-up years. I considered that relevant in answering your questions about what I think xtianity is and whether I consider myself a xtian. If I had grown up in a more narrow-minded religious setting, I would probably, as I said last night, have different views on the subject. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | It has also been claimed that Buddhism is an atheistic religion, but maybe it would be better to call it agnostic. | Espen I think being a confident atheist requires the same kind of sureofyourselfness that being a confident theist does. I just don't see how people can be so sure of something like that. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- stevie/steph said: | I am going on vacation Friday morning. Yay! How long and what plans? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 06:56:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACCuuwA005966 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 06:56:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004597F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 7:55:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3565241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:55:48 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACCtmx15610 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:55:48 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-149.panax.com [65.114.190.149]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACCtlt18947 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:55:47 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112075450.009f6530@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:55:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112052623.7CF547C41@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > That would be a denimjumperslut, like Amy. Large armholes. Side cleavage. > >Ah. > >I own no jumpers. --Karen Get a job and get a jumper before Acadiafest. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 07:08:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACD8FwA006002 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:08:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00459897@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 8:07:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3565769 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:07:08 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACD77x16933 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:07:07 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-149.panax.com [65.114.190.149]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACD76t21127 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:07:06 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112075927.009fb1f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:06:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Charlie Rose Sucks In-Reply-To: <20021112081502.GA18288@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >When I switched the TV on, Charlie Rose, the world's least >interesting man, was doing his show. Is this the guy on my TV at 3 in the afternoon on NBC? I see bits of him every day as I switch the TV from channel 6 to channel 3 so that I can put the DirecTV box on and check the market during soap opera commercials. He's a black man and he sings?? I can't stand him. > But he was interviewing >Juliann Moore, whom I thought I saw in "Uncle Vanya" or actually >the movie based on it, where IMO she looked incredibly beautiful. Julianne Moore played twin sisters on As The World Turns many years ago. I hated her then. I thought she was uncommonly unattractive for an actress back then. I was stunned when she made it in Hollywood. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 07:09:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACD9lwA006011 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:09:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004598A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 8:08:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3565820 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:08:39 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACD8dx17074 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:08:39 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-149.panax.com [65.114.190.149]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACD8ct21435 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:08:38 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112080731.009fe940@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:08:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day In-Reply-To: <193.107d1abe.2b0215f0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >There are no emergencies in the afterlife! --stevie > >We don't know that. --Evelyn Duncan stevie knows. She's been there and came back because she missed the adrenaline rush. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 07:17:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACDHXwA006052 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:17:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00459903@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 8:16:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3566313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:16:25 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACDGPx18069 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:16:25 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-149.panax.com [65.114.190.149]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACDGNt22900 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:16:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112081341.009f7b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:16:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <200211121123.gACBNfZ06011@Archive.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >| You have not given a definition. > >Ok, how about this? A Christian is a person who agrees for the most >part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named Jesus of >Nazareth. --Natalie How about this: A Christian is an individual who worships in community and believes that Jesus Christ is the son of God, sent to deliver mankind from sin. Of course, even if Bethany thinks this is a marvelous definition, I won't know because her posts still go directly to my trash bin. Where they belong. --bonniev From owner-words-l*words-l**GTOAL*-COM@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 08:16:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACEG0wA006454 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:16:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045A171@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 9:14:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3570587 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:14:48 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACEEmx27890 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:14:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD10D50.39972F2E@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:16:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question References: <20021112035554.GD3050@pobox.com> <20021112035641.953B67C44@yellow.rahul.net> <20021112042859.GI3050@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > but anybody notice how old > people are predicting the onset of unprecedented chaos and destruction? Hey! I don't predict any such thing. > This self-indulgent freaking generation just gets grosser every day-- > now they don't even want a world to exist after they die. Hey! BS. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 08:27:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACERjwA006494 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:27:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045A3A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 9:26:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3571673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:26:37 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACEQbx30380 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:26:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD11014.D9BF4CFB@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:28:36 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: A Fine Word Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU blatherskite (BLATH-uhr-skyt) noun 1. A person who babbles about inane matters. 2. Nonsense; foolish talk. [From from Old Norse blathra (to chatter) + Scots dialect skate (a contemptible person).] alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 08:33:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACEXdwA006532 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:33:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FE924@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 9:32:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3572120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:32:30 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACEWUx31512 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:32:30 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.135]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:32:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD11176.CADF4667@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:34:30 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Charlie Rose Sucks References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112075927.009fb1f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > Is this the guy on my TV at 3 in the afternoon on NBC? No. He does not sing. He is not black. He does interviews. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 08:34:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACEYuwA006538 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:34:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045A4A0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 9:33:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3572219 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:33:48 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACEXmx31683 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:33:48 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as0-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.149.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:33:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD111C3.FC79DEFC@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:35:47 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112081341.009f7b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > How about this: A Christian is an individual who worships in community So you can't be a Christian if you are not in a community? No reclusive Christians? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 08:45:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACEjBwA006599 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:45:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.040FEA8A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 9:44:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3573021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:43:58 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACEhvx00783 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:43:57 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-116.panax.com [63.163.41.116]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACEhut05564 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:43:56 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112094306.009fc420@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:43:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD111C3.FC79DEFC@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112081341.009f7b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev wrote: > > How about this: A Christian is an individual who worships in community > >So you can't be a Christian if you are not in a community? >No reclusive Christians? --alyce I'll bet that's what Bethany would say. Personally, I have no opinion on it. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 09:11:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACFBwwA006765 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:11:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045A9C6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:10:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3574706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:10:50 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:/CBhk2q90nTvV3OemnUA+myh60Cve11l@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACF0ox03947 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:00:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A012FE30 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B663F7C42; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:00:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112075450.009f6530@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 12, 2002 7:55:27 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:00:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112150049.B663F7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > > > That would be a denimjumperslut, like Amy. Large armholes. Side cleavage. > > > >Ah. > > > >I own no jumpers. --Karen > > Get a job and get a jumper before Acadiafest. I'm trying to do the former. I doubt I will ever get a jumper, they are too much cloth. Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 09:53:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACFr2wA007000 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:53:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045AFD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:51:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3580058 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:51:53 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h011.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACFprL15694 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:51:53 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9121 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 07:51:52 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.126) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 07:51:52 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 15:51:52 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112104125.00a83378@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:42:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie In-Reply-To: <3DD04F86.846B0D32@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> <20021111230215.GC6533@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:47 PM 11/11/2002 -0500, alyce cresap wrote: >Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 03:42:46PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > > > I am not of The True Faith. > > > > I don't know what that means, > >My college roommate was Catholic and she always told me it was The True >Faith. Not too long ago my mother told me if she wasn't Catholic she would be Jewish because it was the one true faith, the first religion. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 09:53:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACFr3wA007003 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:53:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045AFD6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:51:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3580064 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:51:54 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h011.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.126]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACFpsL15703 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:51:54 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9127 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 07:51:53 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.126) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 07:51:53 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 15:51:53 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112104252.00a7aa28@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:43:07 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day In-Reply-To: <1a7.bc66b4c.2b01a993@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Still not what I'm looking for. All I want is a little farm where >I can raise pumpkins and cats. And plenty of time to read. >And no telephones, except one for emergencies. Why pumpkins? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 10:47:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACGlewA007265 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:47:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045B78F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:46:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3584166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:46:31 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACGaVL23780 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:36:31 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gACGaUPd001973 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:36:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:36:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112094306.009fc420@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, bonniev wrote: >I'll bet that's what Bethany would say. Personally, I have no opinion on it. It amuses me that Bonnie does not read my posts, but finds time to bet on what I would say. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:00:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACH0NwA007353 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:00:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045B938@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:59:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3585307 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:59:14 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACGnDL26139 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:49:13 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gACGnCPd011709 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:49:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:49:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <200211121123.gACBNfZ06011@Archive.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: >| You have not given a definition. > >Ok, how about this? A Christian is a person who agrees for the most >part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named Jesus of >Nazareth. Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, but at least it IS a definition. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:10:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHAXwA007381 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:10:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045BA95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:09:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3587044 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:09:22 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACH9ML29403 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:09:22 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA08039 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:09:18 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 05CE538699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:09:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:09:17 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021112170917.GA17447@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> <20021111230215.GC6533@pobox.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021112104125.00a83378@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112104125.00a83378@mail.attbi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 10:42:33AM -0500, lisa alfieri wrote: > Not too long ago my mother told me if she wasn't Catholic she would be > Jewish because it was the one true faith, the first religion. Which is largely correct--I mean the "first religion" part. Compare this to e.g. the cabbie who says that Islam is the one true faith because it's the LAST religion. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:14:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHEcwA007403 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:14:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045BB04@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:13:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3587462 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:13:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.132]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHDSL30160 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:13:29 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:13:23 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:13:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Happy Diwali! Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:13:23 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2002 17:13:23.0516 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE7D77C0:01C28A6E] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Red: >How long have you been away? Since '86. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:19:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHJ7wA007440 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:19:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045BB96@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:17:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3587816 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:17:58 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHHvL30772 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:17:57 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA13396 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:17:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id F394338699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:17:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:17:56 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Question Message-ID: <20021112171756.GC17447@pobox.com> References: <20021112035554.GD3050@pobox.com> <20021112035641.953B67C44@yellow.rahul.net> <20021112042859.GI3050@pobox.com> <3DD10D50.39972F2E@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD10D50.39972F2E@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 09:16:48AM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > but anybody notice how old > > people are predicting the onset of unprecedented chaos and destruction? > > Hey! I don't predict any such thing. > > > This self-indulgent freaking generation just gets grosser every day-- > > now they don't even want a world to exist after they die. > > Hey! BS. You probably haven't heard the people who say this. Besides, we already established you were of the one true faith ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:20:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHKJwA007451 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:20:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045BBBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:19:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3587933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:19:06 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHJ6L31020 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:19:06 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gACHJ2Q21328 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:19:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c28a6f$da4a4aa0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021111120356.00a00140@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021111170701.47A547C41@yellow.rahul.net> <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> <20021111230215.GC6533@pobox.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021112104125.00a83378@mail.attbi.com> <20021112170917.GA17447@pobox.com> Subject: Re: Re: For Karen/Natalie Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:20:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 10:42:33AM -0500, lisa alfieri wrote: > > Not too long ago my mother told me if she wasn't Catholic she would be > > Jewish because it was the one true faith, the first religion. > > Which is largely correct--I mean the "first religion" part. Compare > this to e.g. the cabbie who says that Islam is the one true faith > because it's the LAST religion. As in "the one with all the updates"? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:23:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHNCwA007458 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:23:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045BC32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:22:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3588321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:22:03 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHM3L31800 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:22:03 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA15934 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:22:03 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 05C7438699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:22:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:22:02 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Charlie Rose Sucks Message-ID: <20021112172202.GD17447@pobox.com> References: <20021112081502.GA18288@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112075927.009fb1f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112075927.009fb1f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:06:47AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > >When I switched the TV on, Charlie Rose, the world's least > >interesting man, was doing his show. > > Is this the guy on my TV at 3 in the afternoon on NBC? I see bits > of him every day as I switch the TV from channel 6 to channel 3 so > that I can put the DirecTV box on and check the market during soap > opera commercials. He's a black man and he sings?? I can't stand > him. Hm, would that be Wayne Brady? He's the future, Dr Voigtlander. Which is precisely why he shouldn't be shown to old daytime biddies, I mean, uh, no offense! > >But he was interviewing Juliann Moore, whom I thought I saw in > >"Uncle Vanya" or actually the movie based on it, where IMO she > >looked incredibly beautiful. > > Julianne Moore played twin sisters on As The World Turns many years > ago. I hated her then. I thought she was uncommonly unattractive for > an actress back then. I was stunned when she made it in Hollywood. Vanya on 42nd Street. That's it. Watch that, she's got a different role than As The World SUCKS ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:24:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHOfwA007465 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:24:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045BC5C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:23:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3588442 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:23:32 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHNWL31984 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:23:32 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA17223 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:23:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5103538699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:23:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:23:31 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Message-ID: <20021112172331.GE17447@pobox.com> References: <200211121123.gACBNfZ06011@Archive.MsState.Edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112081341.009f7b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112081341.009f7b10@pop3.norton.antivirus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:16:04AM -0500, bonniev wrote: > > Of course, even if Bethany thinks this is a marvelous definition, I won't > know because her posts still go directly to my trash bin. Where they > belong. Bethany is dying for Sucky South's sins ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:25:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHPxwA007469 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:25:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410000B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:24:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3588602 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:24:47 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHOlL32233 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:24:47 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA17932 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:24:46 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 63DCA38699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:24:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:24:46 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: For Karen/Natalie Message-ID: <20021112172446.GF17447@pobox.com> References: <20021111191306.GC9363@pobox.com> <3DD0054D.9D11981F@valstar.net> <20021111194108.GK9363@pobox.com> <3DD00FDB.DE0867FA@valstar.net> <20021111201814.GD19147@pobox.com> <3DD01646.2785C81@valstar.net> <20021111230215.GC6533@pobox.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021112104125.00a83378@mail.attbi.com> <20021112170917.GA17447@pobox.com> <000401c28a6f$da4a4aa0$930332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000401c28a6f$da4a4aa0$930332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:20:51AM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 10:42:33AM -0500, lisa alfieri wrote: > > > Not too long ago my mother told me if she wasn't Catholic she would > > > be Jewish because it was the one true faith, the first religion. > > > > Which is largely correct--I mean the "first religion" part. Compare > > this to e.g. the cabbie who says that Islam is the one true faith > > because it's the LAST religion. > > As in "the one with all the updates"? Right ... most recent, whatever. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:32:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHWawA007503 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:32:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041000DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:31:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3589207 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:31:27 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHVQL00896 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:31:26 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gACHX9607108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:33:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:33:09 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:34PM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:34PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = > Side cleavage. = = This is a ridiculous, etymology-disrespecting coinage. = = Whatever it means ... I know what it means. What's your problem? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:36:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHaPwA007515 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:36:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045BE49@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:35:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3589521 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:35:12 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHZCL01454 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:35:12 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA24822 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:35:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5793738699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:35:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:35:05 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112173505.GA21183@pobox.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:33:09PM +0100, stevie wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:34PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = > Side cleavage. > = > = This is a ridiculous, etymology-disrespecting coinage. > = > = Whatever it means ... > > I know what it means. What's your problem? I have no problem, lady. Do I look like I have a problem? I feel no need to know what side cleavage means, since I don't plan to use the word. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:43:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHhHwA007534 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:43:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045BF52@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:42:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3589272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:42:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:SCTcdXIPQJhOalvYyhpoC4wNU5DYdHQd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHW7L01029 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:32:07 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BB02FE8C for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6CBAE7C48; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:32:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 12, 2002 6:33: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:32:06 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112173206.6CBAE7C48@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie said: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:34PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = > Side cleavage. > = > = This is a ridiculous, etymology-disrespecting coinage. > = > = Whatever it means ... > > I know what it means. What's your problem? I know what it means, too. Karen Proud to be a WHORE From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:44:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHiswA007544 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:44:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410023C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:43:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3590155 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:43:45 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHhiL02778 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:43:45 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gACHjUS07132 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:45:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:45:30 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112184530.B7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021112173505.GA21183@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021112173505.GA21183@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:35:05AM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:35:05AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:33:09PM +0100, stevie wrote: = > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:34PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: = > = > Side cleavage. = > = = > = This is a ridiculous, etymology-disrespecting coinage. = > = = > = Whatever it means ... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = > = > I know what it means. What's your problem? = = I have no problem, lady. Do I look like I have a problem? = I feel no need to know what side cleavage means, since I = don't plan to use the word. If you don't know what it means, you have a problem. Doh. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 11:56:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACHuTwA007617 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:56:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045C0E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:55:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3590945 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:55:20 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACHtJL04372 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:55:19 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA06856 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:55:19 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 15FE33869A; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:55:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:55:18 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112175518.GB24454@pobox.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021112173505.GA21183@pobox.com> <20021112184530.B7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021112184530.B7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:45:30PM +0100, stevie wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:35:05AM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 06:33:09PM +0100, stevie wrote: > = > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:27:34PM -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > = > = > Side cleavage. > = > = > = > = This is a ridiculous, etymology-disrespecting coinage. > = > = > = > = Whatever it means ... > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > = > > = > I know what it means. What's your problem? > = > = I have no problem, lady. Do I look like I have a problem? > = I feel no need to know what side cleavage means, since I > = don't plan to use the word. > > If you don't know what it means, you have a problem. Doh. Well at least Karen doesn't have a problem--which is good enough for me! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 12:08:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACI8DwA007686 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:08:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045C283@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:07:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3592042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:07:03 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACI72L06645 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:07:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust189.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.191]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:06:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD143AE.62C0AB72@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:08:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021112173505.GA21183@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > I have no problem, lady. Do I look like I have a problem? > I feel no need to know what side cleavage means, since I > don't plan to use the word. And you'll recognize it when you see it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 12:10:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACIAhwA007697 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:10:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045C2D1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:09:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3592279 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:09:34 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACI9XL07158 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:09:33 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gACIBJe07211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:11:19 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:11:19 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112191119.A7201@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021112173505.GA21183@pobox.com> <20021112184530.B7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021112175518.GB24454@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021112175518.GB24454@pobox.com>; from scribble@POBOX.COM on Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:55:18AM -0600 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > If you don't know what it means, you have a problem. Doh. = = Well at least Karen doesn't have a problem--which is good = enough for me! Cop out. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 12:15:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACIFFwA007731 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:15:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045C35D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:14:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3592611 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:14:06 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACIE5L07917 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:14:06 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA18710 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:14:05 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0713538699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:14:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:14:04 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112181404.GA27169@pobox.com> References: <20021112035822.GE3050@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021112002356.009f9a90@pop3.norton.antivirus> <20021112052734.GA10322@pobox.com> <20021112183309.A7073@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021112173505.GA21183@pobox.com> <3DD143AE.62C0AB72@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD143AE.62C0AB72@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:08:46PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > I have no problem, lady. Do I look like I have a problem? > > I feel no need to know what side cleavage means, since I > > don't plan to use the word. > > And you'll recognize it when you see it. Let's hope not ... 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From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 12:48:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACImQwA007920 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:48:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045C7D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3595037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:16 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h004.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACIlGL13317 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:16 -0500 Received: (cpmta 13385 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 10:47:15 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.119) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 10:47:15 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 18:47:15 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112115424.00b1e388@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:59:24 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Veterans Day In-Reply-To: <3DD05C64.4020501@swbell.net> References: <4.2.2.20021111125659.00a7f250@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:41 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: >Betty wrote: > >>At 08:50 PM 11/11/2002 +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: >> >>>On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 08:59:24PM +0100, stevie wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 12:39:24PM -0600, Amy Burns Short wrote: >>>>= What commemorations are being effected in your respective worlds >>>>today? >>>>= >>>>= Amy >>>> >>>>The French had the day off. Yay! >>> >>> >>>The Belgians had the day off. Yay! >> >> >>*I* have the day off. Yay! >> >>Thanks, all you Veterans. > > > I did *not* have the day off. Other than no mail, I've seen >no indication that today is Veteran's Day. I didn't have the day off either. Normally the people who have kids in school are out, making for a quiet day at the office. As it was I didn't leave the building all day, I only left my desk long enough to get a soda to go along with my sandwich and worked until nearly 7:30pm. Despite my shitty day I too am thankful for our Veterans. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 12:48:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACImXwA007924 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:48:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045C7E4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3595050 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:18 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h004.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACIlHL13329 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:17 -0500 Received: (cpmta 13352 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 10:47:13 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.119) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 10:47:13 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 18:47:13 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112113939.00a92c80@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:40:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112010704.GJ14005@pobox.com> References: <3DD050DA.C2F74D05@valstar.net> <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> <3DD050DA.C2F74D05@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:07 PM 11/11/2002 -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: >On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 07:52:42PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > > > > You killed a zebra? > >Why do you have to hate? you know it's jealousy. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 12:48:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACImYwA007925 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:48:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045C7E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3595061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:23 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h004.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACIlFL13314 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:15 -0500 Received: (cpmta 13364 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 10:47:14 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.119) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 10:47:14 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 18:47:14 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112115017.00b1cac0@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:53:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112010808.8A14F7C42@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:08 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >Tushar Samant said: > > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, > > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > >I'll come work for you! This isn't a good idea Karen (sorry Tushar I can't spell under the best of circumstances I don't trust myself to substitute symbols for letters). Given your list track record with Mack Daddy Tushie, I don't think he give you good . lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 13:14:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACJEwwA008030 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:14:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045CB19@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:13:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3596976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:13:48 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACJDmL17951 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:13:48 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACJDmT05999 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:13:48 -0500 Received: from awildbevm7 (AW.MIS.uri.edu [131.128.122.7]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gACJBrv20201 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:11:54 -0500 Message-ID: <020801c28a7e$7b8aedd0$077a8083@uri.ds.uri.edu> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <01b901c289b1$a8bef9e0$e895f9d8@murraystate.edu> <002001c289b6$44ac2220$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> <3DD04785.6ABE4527@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Subject: Re: Re: Veterans Day Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:05:35 -0500 Organization: MIS - OIS - URI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Williams" > Hey, Al did you catch any of Gunny Ermy's marathon today? > "DID I SAY YOU COULD GET YOUR ASS OUT OF THAT BARCLOUNGER?" 'Missed it... but I have a motivational doll on order for William and Christmas laughs. I'll prolly also use it occasionally to save my voice... ;-) 'Alan From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 13:49:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACJntwA008215 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:49:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045CFA3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:48:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3599878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:48:44 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACJmiL23871 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:48:44 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id NAA15590 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:48:44 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id D7ADE38699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:48:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:48:43 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112194843.GA8754@pobox.com> References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021112115017.00b1cac0@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112115017.00b1cac0@mail.attbi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:53:34AM -0500, lisa alfieri wrote: > >I'll come work for you! > > This isn't a good idea Karen (sorry Tushar I can't spell under the best > of circumstances I don't trust myself to substitute symbols for letters). > Given your list track record with Mack Daddy Tushie, I don't think he > give you good . True macs do merit-based, sorry From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 13:49:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACJnawA008211 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:49:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045CF95@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:48:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3599867 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:48:26 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACJmQL23842 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:48:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.80]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021112195008.YIEC4249.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:50:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD15B01.2512615F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:48:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 maynor@ARCHIVE.MSSTATE.EDU wrote: > > >| You have not given a definition. > > > >Ok, how about this? A Christian is a person who agrees for the most > >part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named Jesus of > >Nazareth. > > Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, > but at least it IS a definition. > > Bethany -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 13:51:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACJp8wA008230 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:51:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101129@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:49:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3599910 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:49:58 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACJnwL24029 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:49:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.80]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021112195136.YJKA4249.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:51:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD15B5C.F07B4212@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:49:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >Ok, how about this? A Christian is a person who agrees for the most > >part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named Jesus of > >Nazareth. > > Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, > but at least it IS a definition. Oops. I was feeling so discombobulated by the return of wojo that I sent a blank reply. What you asked for was my personal definition. I find it pretty stinky for you to find other people's beliefs stinky. Wojo was down because of moving into another building, btw. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 13:57:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACJvawA008266 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:57:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045D089@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:56:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3600195 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:56:26 -0500 Received: from imf38bis.bellsouth.net (mail119.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.59]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACJuQL24973 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:56:26 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.72]) by imf38bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021112195808.FETO14859.imf38bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:58:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD15CE0.69251F01@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:56:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Say Something, Bradykins! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have more basketball talk for you, Bradykins. I asked at lunch today about the mysterious newspaper story about Mario Austin. Turns out that it is something instigated by Alabama because they are still po'ed that after their heavy recruiting of him a few years ago he spurned them and came here. (He's from Alabama.) Supposedly his prominence at the end of last season when he announced he was going professional but then changed his mind aroused their resentment again, so they started checking around and decided there was something questionable about his high school diploma -- that some courses counted toward it that they didn't think should have. This makes little sense to me. I realize that the NCAA has rules about things like ACT scores, making a player have to sit out his freshman year if his ACT is too low (Mario's wasn't -- it was only slightly below average -- something like 20). I can't see how the NCAA can go poking around in high school records and telling high schools which courses should or shouldn't count toward graduation. Anyway, word is that it will be next week before a ruling is made. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 14:29:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACKT2wA008423 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:29:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045D56A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:27:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3604645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:27:51 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACKRpL31367 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:27:51 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021112202344.YPES24365.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:23:44 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:10:11 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: References: <200211121123.gACBNfZ06011@Archive.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, >but at least it IS a definition. It is, of course, very close to the standard definition; cf. m-w: "1 a: one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ". Standard definitions of say, "Buddhist", "Muslim", or "Jewish" are probably equally spiritually "stinky"; I'm not sure that there's much to infer from that. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 14:46:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACKknwA008532 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:46:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101944@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:45:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:45:38 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wiqtVqAlomvYu2KkVGrKN2Adh7pdpj86@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACKZcL32482 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:35:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B2B2FE32 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:35:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 01F797C43; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:35:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 12, 2002 12:10:11 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:35:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112203536.01F797C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Bethany K. Dumas writes, > > >Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, > >but at least it IS a definition. > > It is, of course, very close to the standard definition; cf. m-w: "1 a: one > who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ". > > Standard definitions of say, "Buddhist", "Muslim", or "Jewish" are probably > equally spiritually "stinky"; I'm not sure that there's much to infer from > that. Where does the stinkiness arise? Because the definition doesn't address spirituality? M-W's definition of Buddhism is "a religion of eastern and central Asia growing out of the teaching of Gautama Buddha that suffering is inherent in life and that one can be liberated from it by mental and moral self-purification". Stinky or not? Karen "Don't worry. Be happy. Be here now." --Tom Robbins From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 14:50:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACKo1wA008542 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:50:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101993@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:48:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3605409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:48:50 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACKcoL00368 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:38:50 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gACKcnTC013541 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:38:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:38:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: >It is, of course, very close to the standard definition; cf. m-w: "1 a: one >who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ". Peter! - read N's definition again: "A Christian is a person who agrees for the most part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named Jesus of Nazareth." Note the hedges: "agrees ...with," "for the most part," "exeplified by," "the literary figure named." It's a vague statement of partial agreement with some of the characteristics of a character in a book! It says nothing about living the teaching of ... about being committed to ... etc. If we are going to pick and choose among commercial dictionaries, we could also select this "standrd definition": 1. believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and who tries to follow his teachings and example (Encarta online) >Standard definitions of say, "Buddhist", "Muslim", or "Jewish" are probably >equally spiritually "stinky"; I doubt that. See above. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 14:54:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACKsbwA008564 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:54:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045D8D2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:53:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606396 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:53:24 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACKrML02634 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:53:23 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-77.panax.com [65.114.190.77]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACKrKt19693 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:53:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112154452.00b6c070@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:53:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Say Something, Bradykins! In-Reply-To: <3DD15CE0.69251F01@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:56 PM 11/12/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: > I can't see how the NCAA can go poking around in high school records and > telling >high schools which courses should or shouldn't count toward graduation. I don't believe that they (the NCAA) can. However, they can and do require that scholarship athletes meet the same diploma requirements (and college admission requirements) as must other students. In this case, probably what was alleged---and what is being investigated---is whether Mr. Austin received high-school credit for courses that he didn't take (or failed). Also, in the past, the NCAA has discovered instances of prospective scholarship athletes taking correspondence courses (from outfits similar to the "we'll give you a Ph.D. for your life experiences" etc.) to either pad their high-school gradepoint averages or to apply to diploma requirements. So, the NCAA may also be looking at this possibility. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 14:59:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACKxLwA008605 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:59:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101A86@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606704 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:10 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACKwAL03267 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:10 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust91.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.93]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD16C04.4C74E26C@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:00:52 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <20021112203536.01F797C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU : Bethany K. Dumas writes, > > > > >Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, It always surprises me when self-professed Christians call others names. It's one of the reasons I don't go to church any more. alyce alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 14:59:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACKxwwA008608 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:59:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101A92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3606738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:48 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACKwmL03342 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:48 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id OAA26902 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:58:47 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 617C238699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:58:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:58:47 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Message-ID: <20021112205847.GA16009@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 03:38:49PM -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >It is, of course, very close to the standard definition; cf. m-w: "1 a: one > >who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ". > > Peter! - read N's definition again: "A Christian is a person who agrees > for the most part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named > Jesus of Nazareth." > > Note the hedges: "agrees ...with," "for the most part," "exeplified > by," "the literary figure named." It's a vague statement of partial > agreement with some of the characteristics of a character in a > book! It says nothing about living the teaching of ... about being > committed to ... etc. I find it hard to understand it too, but yes--that lameass hedging excuse for a definition IS considered "very close" to the standard definition by a lot of highly educated people! They really DO NOT see the difference! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:05:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACL5FwA008648 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:05:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045DA50@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:04:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3607522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:04:04 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACL44L04846 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:04:04 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021112210357.ZRVK15364.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:03:57 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112124842.02ac7b10@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:03:49 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <20021112203536.01F797C43@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Where does the stinkiness arise? Because the definition doesn't >address spirituality? It's a Bethany thing. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:13:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLDuwA008706 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:13:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045DBC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:12:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3608446 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:12:46 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLCjL06798 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:12:45 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021112211237.BEZ15364.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:12:37 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112130757.02ae3c10@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:10:16 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >Peter! - read N's definition again: "A Christian is a person who agrees >for the most part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named >Jesus of Nazareth." > >1. believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus >Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and >who tries to follow his teachings and example (Encarta online) I am quite happy you can split the hairs between "agrees for the most part with the morals exemplified" and "tries to follow his teachings and example". Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:29:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLT8wA009198 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:29:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045DDAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:27:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609461 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:27:57 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLRvL09401 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:27:57 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gACLRu49203783 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECE4A6DC for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:27:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: The rumors are true Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:27:56 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <002701c28a92$5e5f5700$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tushar Samant >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:43 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: The rumors are true > > >In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, >organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:30:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLUJwA009229 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:30:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045DDD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609572 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:09 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h006.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.121]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACLT8L09610 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:08 -0500 Received: (cpmta 29393 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 13:29:07 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.121) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 13:29:07 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 21:29:07 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112151631.00aacde8@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:16:56 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD15B5C.F07B4212@maynor.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What you asked for was my personal definition. I >find it pretty stinky for you to find other people's beliefs stinky. > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) amen to that! lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:30:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLULwA009232 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:30:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101E1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLTAL09626 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gACLSZ49155650 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from EAGLE72 (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9ADA6DC for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:28:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Alec D. Plotkin" To: "'English Language Discussion Group'" Subject: RE: The rumors are true Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:28:35 -0500 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <002801c28a92$75546a40$48305b80@EAGLE72> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >-----Original Message----- >From: English Language Discussion Group >[mailto:WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tushar Samant >Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:43 PM >To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Subject: The rumors are true > > >In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban, >organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg > It is so small. I need better glasses to see it. alec From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:30:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLUMwA009235 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:30:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101E1F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h006.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.121]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACLTAL09633 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:10 -0500 Received: (cpmta 29411 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 13:29:09 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.121) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 13:29:09 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 21:29:09 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112154500.00aacde8@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:13:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Good Article In-Reply-To: <200211121044.gACAiMp10637@Ra.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:44 AM 11/12/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >Good re the Iraq frenzy: >http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1110-07.htm This article reminds me of something I heard the other day. Someone said that the bulk of our foreign aid money goes to Israel to help beef up their defenses. I can't remember where I heard this nor can I remember the figure (a guess would be over 70%). A quick google hasn't produced any evidence of this statement. However, I'm not entirely sure I'm looking in the right place. So far what I've found is on this site, http://www.usaid.gov/pubs/cbj2002/prog_pref2002.html The way they have it laid out, broken down by regions and then by category, I don't think I'll find exactly what I'm looking for. Any suggestions? lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:30:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLUOwA009238 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:30:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045DDD7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609581 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:10 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h006.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.121]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gACLT9L09619 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:09 -0500 Received: (cpmta 29400 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 13:29:08 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.121) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 13:29:08 -0800 X-Sent: 12 Nov 2002 21:29:08 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112151749.00a80e88@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:24:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Say Something, Bradykins! In-Reply-To: <3DD15CE0.69251F01@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I can't see how the NCAA can go poking around in high school records > and telling high schools which courses should or shouldn't count toward > graduation. Anyway, word is that it will be next week before a ruling is made. >--Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) I made a division II basketball team as a walk on in my freshman year of college. They called my high school to get my SAT score and my GPA. You had to have a GPA above 2.0 and SAT score above 700. I don't think the rule said you had to have both but they must have really needed the GPA because they already had my SAT score as part of my college application. The guidance counselor at my high school told the assistant coach she was too busy doing real work to rush my transcripts over. She would get to them within a couple weeks. Since I was a walk on I didn't have that stuff in order earlier I called the principal of the school. She and I were close enough that I didn't have a problem asking her for a favor. She had the paper's faxed over that afternoon. I do not remember anything about which classes I took being on the fax. Then again I'm not sure I ever saw it. All I know is, once the coach received it I was eligible to participate. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:30:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLUlwA009311 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:30:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045DDE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3609622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:34 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLTYL09687 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:34 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04101E22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200211122129.gACLTYL09687@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:29:34 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: Re: Speaking of Godlessness To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I've found (like Paul) that those I know who are thinking atheists, etc. are >often more ethical/moral because they've taken the time to develop their >codes and think about them as opposed to those who have accepted a religion >but have never really thought about why or how they act. Amen. Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:39:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLd6wA009764 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:39:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045DF0B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:37:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3610407 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:37:54 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLbsL11256 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:37:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA23933 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:37:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 5CA0C38699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:37:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:37:53 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true Message-ID: <20021112213753.GA17887@pobox.com> References: <20021111234307.GA14005@pobox.com> <002801c28a92$75546a40$48305b80@EAGLE72> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002801c28a92$75546a40$48305b80@EAGLE72> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 04:28:35PM -0500, Alec D. Plotkin wrote: > > It is so small. I need better glasses to see it. Better glasses is not the answer, broader vision is. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:45:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLjXwA009899 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:45:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045DFEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:44:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3610036 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:44:22 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLYML10584 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:34:22 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gACLYLTC027845 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:34:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD16C04.4C74E26C@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >It always surprises me when self-professed Christians call others names. >It's one of the reasons I don't go to church any more. I did not know that a definition was an "other." Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:46:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLkHwA009904 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:46:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045E006@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:45:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3610995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:44:58 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLiwL12468 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:44:58 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021112214450.BLOO15364.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:44:50 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112133415.029e87c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:42:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >Note the hedges: "agrees ...with," "for the most part," "exeplified >by," "the literary figure named." It's a vague statement of partial >agreement with some of the characteristics of a character in a >book! It says nothing about living the teaching of ... about being >committed to ... etc. Or to put it another way, Natalie's definition describes the real world. To say that the definition stinks spiritually is to malign fair observation. If you think the characteristics therein are stinky, you should assign the quality to those people it describes, and not to the description itself. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 15:58:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACLwawA009961 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:58:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045E209@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:57:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:57:25 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:oSCoeYaYZZHNkBsM07Wp/zks6keBtK7T@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLlPL12941 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:47:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE4A2FEA9 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 88C6B7C41; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112124842.02ac7b10@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 12, 2002 1: 3:49 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:47:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112214724.88C6B7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Karen Kay writes, > >Where does the stinkiness arise? Because the definition doesn't > >address spirituality? > > It's a Bethany thing. But you seem to grok it. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:02:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACM2pwA009998 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:02:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410229D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:01:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:01:40 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLpdL13493 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:51:39 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gACLpaWh016015 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:51:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021112140844.00a8e0b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:08:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021112033933.GA3050@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:40 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:
    Tushar Samant said:
    > On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 05:08:08PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote:
    > > Tushar Samant said:
    > > > In case you disbelieved the "pimpdaddy" rumors, a highly urban,
    > > > organic, funky and convincing picture: http://samant.com/img/p.jpg
    > >
    > > I'll come work for you!
    >
    > I don't sponsor homewreckers.

    Me? A homewrecker??? Nah, that's Borkin's fantasy.

    She has the shirt!

    Betty     From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:06:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACM6TwA010015 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:06:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045E365@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:05:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3611858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:05:18 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACLtIL13966 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:55:18 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gACLtGTC010350 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:55:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:55:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112133415.029e87c0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: >Or to put it another way, Natalie's definition describes the real >world. To say that the definition stinks spiritually is to malign fair >observation. Not the one I live in. >If you think the characteristics therein are stinky, you should assign the >quality to those people it describes, and not to the description itself. It's the definition I find inadequate - I am not talking about the individuals who are composing definitions. There is a HUGE difference - ask any freshman comp student. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:15:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMFnwA010646 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:15:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045E4A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:14:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613767 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:14:38 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMEbL16949 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:14:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust91.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.93]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:14:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD17DEE.5FAE77DF@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:17:18 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: For Evelyn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU SF Author Sohl Dies SF author Jerry Sohl, who also wrote scripts for the original Star Trek and The Twilight Zone, died Nov. 4 at a hospital in Thousand Oaks, Calif., of undisclosed causes, the Associated Press reported. 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And look for The War of the Whisperers, The Nemesis of Night and The Primal Pipers - forthcoming! __________________________________________________________________________ BookFinder Insider -- http://lists.bookfinder.com/mailman/listinfo/insider From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:16:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMGbwA010655 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:16:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045E4CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:15:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3613824 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:15:26 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMFQL17109 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:15:26 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5H003LTHTMHD@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:15:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:16:36 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Beginning of Today To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD17DC4.2000504@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021112203536.01F797C43@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD16C04.4C74E26C@valstar.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > : > Bethany K. Dumas writes, > >>>>Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, >>>> > > It always surprises me when self-professed Christians call others names. > It's one of the reasons I don't go to church any more. Me, too. Makes me ashamed to be an Episcopalian. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:22:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMMOwA010811 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:22:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045E59A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:21:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614234 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:21:13 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMLDL18003 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:21:13 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021112222105.DJEW6356.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:21:05 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112141144.03727700@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:20:58 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112133415.029e87c0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas writes, >Not the one I live in. Well, that explains the disconnect. :) > >If you think the characteristics therein are stinky, you should assign the > >quality to those people it describes, and not to the description itself. > >It's the definition I find inadequate - I am not talking about the >individuals who are composing definitions. Non-responsive. I wasn't talking about the individuals composing definitions, either. >There is a HUGE difference - ask any freshman comp student. Uh, yeah. Thanks. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:23:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMNowA010819 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:23:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410246C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:22:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614314 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:22:38 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMMaL18215 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:22:36 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust91.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.93]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:24:09 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > I did not know that a definition was an "other." I was imprecise. Calling another's definition of her religion "stinky." How's that? Why don't you do your own religion thing, Bethany, and leave the rest of us alone to wallow in our ignorance and sin? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:24:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMOmwA010822 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:24:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045E5FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:23:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3614592 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:23:10 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMNAL18387 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:23:10 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADC67798; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBA17353; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:23:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:20:27 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The rumors are true Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD0F20B.24473.A334BD@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.1.5.2.20021112140844.00a8e0b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 12 Nov 2002 at 14:08, Betty Clark wrote: > She has the shirt! > And the lot of them owe us photos, front and back, to go with yours. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:40:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMe3wA010936 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:40:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045E855@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:38:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3616980 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:38:52 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMcqL21514 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:38:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.143.27a7556 (2519) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:38:35 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <143.27a7556.2b02dceb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:38:35 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Not a Good Computer Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2002 9:52:09 AM Central Standard Time, alfieri@ATTBI.COM writes: << >Still not what I'm looking for. All I want is a little farm where >I can raise pumpkins and cats. And plenty of time to read. >And no telephones, except one for emergencies. Why pumpkins? >> When we lived in Mogadore I used to raise pumpkins. And morning glories, four o'clocks, and inpatiens. I miss those days. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:45:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMjLwA011038 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:45:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045E8F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:44:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3617315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:44:09 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMi9L22416 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:44:09 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id QAA00311 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:44:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 0B27B38699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:44:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:44:08 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Message-ID: <20021112224408.GA24934@pobox.com> References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 05:24:09PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I did not know that a definition was an "other." > > I was imprecise. Calling another's definition of her religion "stinky." To be honest, I think it "stinks spiritually" myself. There is no content in Natalie's definition, and I daresay Natalie will not be able to point out anything which could be justifiably called an innovation by the "literary figure called Jesus Christ". It is a pointless hedging non-definition, sorry. However, Natalie still doesn't say that she has a code of ethics, and maybe a code of public living, derived from a few literary figures and that's about the role of religion in her life. Now, if I have said that stinks, in what way am I a bad or obnoxious guy? Or is it that I would be one if I started calling myself a Christian? I think it's all boiling down to "nothing shall be said about other people's religion". Which does prevent unpleasantness, but gives a pretty effective way to shut people up about any given thing-- just call it religion. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 16:56:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACMujwA011759 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:56:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045EB48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:55:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3618156 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:55:30 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACMtUL24109 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:55:30 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADC71746; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBA21699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:55:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:53:04 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021112224408.GA24934@pobox.com> References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 12 Nov 2002 at 16:44, Tushar Samant wrote: > I think it's all boiling down > to "nothing shall be said about other people's religion". I'd settle for "nothing shall be said about one's own religion." mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:02:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACN2pwA011802 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:02:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102A2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:01:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3618870 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:01:39 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACN1dL25136 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:01:39 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102A2B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:01:39 -0500 Message-Id: <200211122301.gACN1dL25136@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:01:39 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: Re: Beginning of Today To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and leave the rest of us alone to wallow in our ignorance and sin? ------ This made my day ! I needed a good laugh because I just complained (for the somaniest time) about this server. I hate their mail system with a passion, and I may just return to AOL; it wasn't perfect, but better than this! I hope this goes through OK, but don't be surprised if I disappear for a while again. (muttering under her breath) Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:10:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNA9wA011823 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:10:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045ECD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:08:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619460 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:08:57 -0500 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACN8vL26289 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:08:57 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.10f.19f6c01c (2519) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:08:41 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <10f.19f6c01c.2b02e3f8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:08:40 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] For Evelyn To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2002 4:14:50 PM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << SF author Jerry Sohl, who also wrote scripts for the original Star Trek and The Twilight Zone, died Nov. 4 at a hospital in Thousand Oaks, Calif., of undisclosed causes, the Associated Press reported. >> Thanks, Alyce. I wonder what episodes he wrote. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:11:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNBEwA011830 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:11:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102AE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:10:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3618464 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:10:02 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACN02L24724 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:00:02 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gACN01Wh031469 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:00:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021112151627.00a508a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:17:23 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <3DD0F20B.24473.A334BD@localhost> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021112140844.00a8e0b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:20 PM 11/12/2002 -1000, you wrote:
    On 12 Nov 2002 at 14:08, Betty Clark wrote:

    > She has the shirt!
    >

    And the lot of them owe us photos, front and back, to go with
    yours.

    Yeah!  Don't leave me stranded on that web page by myself.  I'm no the only words-l whore around here.  Did you get Natalie's?

    Betty     From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:15:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNFiwA011869 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:15:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045ED78@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:14:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619170 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:14:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BexDX/iJwwJBl2+0hSw6ynkpCFMeevR2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACN4WL25673 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:04:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE712FEF0 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4973A7C48; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:04:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day In-Reply-To: <143.27a7556.2b02dceb@aol.com> from Evelyn Duncan at "Nov 12, 2002 5:38:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:04:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112230428.4973A7C48@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > When we lived in Mogadore I used to raise pumpkins. > And morning glories, four o'clocks, and inpatiens. My morning glories are blooming right now, at this moment, even though it's 5pm and sunset is around 5:30. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:21:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNLSwA011898 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:21:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045EE13@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:20:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620070 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:20:16 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNKGL27718 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:20:16 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id RAA19978 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:20:15 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 2945538699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:20:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:20:14 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Message-ID: <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:53:04PM -1000, Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 12 Nov 2002 at 16:44, Tushar Samant wrote: > > > I think it's all boiling down to "nothing shall be said > > about other people's religion". > > I'd settle for "nothing shall be said about one's own religion." Same thing, unless you want to go deep into "who started it" territory every time. I will say that the fault lies with people who with boundless enthusiasm once again reply to "there's evidence there's only one god" and other statements. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:24:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNOGwA011906 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:24:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045EE57@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:23:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3619597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:23:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:CprxoxcDgDv+7HPuP5Wa7np7120mjq40@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACND1L26691 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:13:01 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5A32FEC3 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9E3C17C40; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:12:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021112151627.00a508a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Nov 12, 2002 3:17:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 15:12:57 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021112231257.9E3C17C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: [text/html is unsupported, treating like TEXT/PLAIN] > > At 12:20 PM 11/12/2002 -1000, you wrote:
    >
    On 12 Nov 2002 at 14:08, Betty > Clark wrote:

    > > She has the shirt!
    > >

    > And the lot of them owe us photos, front and back, to go with
    > yours.

    > Yeah!  Don't leave me stranded on that web page by myself.  I'm > no the only words-l whore around here.  Did you get > Natalie's?

    > Betty     Please turn off HTML! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:29:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNTTwA011916 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:29:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102BFE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:28:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:28:18 -0500 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNSHL28385 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:28:17 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.7b.1f53601 (3874) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:27:52 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.1f53601.2b02e877@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:27:51 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Beginning of Today To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2002 5:01:51 PM Central Standard Time, dutchessg@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << This made my day ! I needed a good laugh because I just complained (for the somaniest time) about this server. I hate their mail system with a passion, >> I got a disk from Earthlink today. I just threw it in the trash. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:31:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNVNwA011946 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:31:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102C1E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:30:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620489 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:30:11 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com (imo-r06.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.102]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNUBL28610 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:30:11 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.185.11bde2a2 (3874) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:30:04 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <185.11bde2a2.2b02e8fb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:30:03 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Not a Good Computer Day To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2002 5:14:50 PM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << My morning glories are blooming right now, at this moment, even though it's 5pm and sunset is around 5:30. >> I used to collect the seeds and give them to friends. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:33:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNXBwA011953 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:33:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102C3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:32:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:31:57 -0500 Received: from imf15bis.bellsouth.net (mail315.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.175]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNVqL28790 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:31:52 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.57]) by imf15bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021112233334.RTKM5797.imf15bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:33:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD18F62.211D1651@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:31:46 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Say Something, Bradykins! References: <3DD15CE0.69251F01@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > see how the NCAA can go poking around in high school records and telling > high schools which courses should or shouldn't count toward graduation. I see that this is explained (sort of) in today's Clarion-Ledger. It seems that the NCAA rules do require that players take certain "core courses" in high school: http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0211/12/s02.html Meanwhile, alas and alack, Wojo is dead again. I wonder if they've decided to rearrange the furnishings in the new building and have unplugged it or something. This is most annoying, although I can't really complain since it's not a real ISP. One should not look gift horses in the mouth. The above mail that I'm responding to is the last list mail I've received. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:33:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNXcwA011956 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:33:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102C4B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:32:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:32:26 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNWPL28879 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:32:26 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-23.panax.com [63.163.41.23]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNWLt23552 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:32:21 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112183102.00a0aab0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:31:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day In-Reply-To: <20021112230428.4973A7C48@yellow.rahul.net> References: <143.27a7556.2b02dceb@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Evelyn Duncan said: > > When we lived in Mogadore I used to raise pumpkins. > > And morning glories, four o'clocks, and inpatiens. > >My morning glories are blooming right now, at this moment, even though >it's 5pm and sunset is around 5:30. --Karen What happened to your .sig, Karen? Here's a perfect example of you living in the now and Evelyn living in the back then. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:39:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNdiwA011981 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:39:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045EFD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:38:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620952 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:38:32 -0500 Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNcWL29574 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:38:32 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045EFCF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:38:32 -0500 Message-Id: <200211122338.gACNcWL29574@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:38:32 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: Re: WHTM at the store To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU cc: Theodora Groothof Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I wish stores were not so big. Even though I had arranged my list so that it was efficient and I did not have to backtrack anywhere, it was a long, long walk. -------- Tell me about it! No, you better not! Do they have those electric carts where you shop? They have them in my store, but they're usually all in use. When I move, (end of January) I'll have a rancher, no stairs to climb up and down) and I was told by my daughter, who will live very nearby, that a grocery store will be in reach, without having to cross the street, so I've ordered an electric scooter that I can use there, However, you need a doctor's prescription for one, and I just got through calling them about it, and was told that they had sent the paperwork to him some time ago, and hadn't received an answer. Next call: said doctor; "receptionist: will check on matter." So that was my day sofar. Haven't been to a store in 2 weeks, dau #2 at work, no one else available, so how am I supposed to gain weight without food? Hopefully, my move will go smoothly, until than, better tie my belt another notch! At least y'all are available to air my grievances, I HOPE. Perhaps my next post will be more cheerful! Thanks for listening, Theo From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:50:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNoMwA012969 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:50:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045F129@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:49:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3620977 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:49:07 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNd7L29650 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:39:07 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gACNd4TC020500 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:39:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:39:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >> I did not know that a definition was an "other." > >I was imprecise. Calling another's definition of her religion "stinky." >How's that? Why don't you do your own religion thing, Bethany, and leave >the rest of us alone to wallow in our ignorance and sin? The only thing I called (imprecise, also, of course) was . alyce, I think it is very important for us to understand the concepts for which we toss around terms. (You don't need to agree, of course.) I suggest that recent discussion here makes clear why we CANNOT discuss religion/Christianity/etc. - we are using the terms in vey different senses. As you may recall, I understand that we are all sinners - well, I think Evelyn was an exception - or was it Doris? I forget - but some of us are not interested in wallowing in sin. (That includes you, I suspect - but of course that is none of my business.) Thanks for your comments. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 17:56:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gACNuNwA013455 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:56:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102DCD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:55:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3621985 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:55:08 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gACNt8L32234 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:55:08 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102DCC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:55:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200211122355.gACNt8L32234@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:55:08 -0500 From: Theodora Groothof Subject: Re: The prescription To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU And so, I got the prescription out of the bag, only to find that it has an unopenable cap. ------ Hey, you think that's bad, try opening it with only one hand! Giggling......But I found a way to quote: cut and paste will do it! Theo ( inmensely proud of herself!) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 18:12:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD0C7wA013533 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:12:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045F40E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:10:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3622858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:10:55 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD0AtL01954 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:10:55 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADC80256; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:10:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBA31236; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:10:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 14:08:26 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The rumors are true Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD10B5A.7881.1061314@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021112231257.9E3C17C40@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021112151627.00a508a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Nov 12, 2002 3:17:23 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 12 Nov 2002 at 15:12, Karen Kay wrote: > Please turn off HTML! Well, Karen, if your religion didn't forbid the use of modern software this wouldn't be a problem. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 18:28:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD0SpwA013604 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:28:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04102F9D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:27:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3623531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:27:39 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD0RdL04347 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:27:39 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.118.1a99b7f6 (3874) for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <118.1a99b7f6.2b02f66b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:27:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Beginning of Today To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/12/2002 5:49:14 PM Central Standard Time, dumasb@UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU writes: << As you may recall, I understand that we are all sinners - well, I think Evelyn was an exception >> Nope, not me. Plenty of sins here: chiefly, anger. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:07:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD17IwA013811 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:07:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045FA0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:06:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3625444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:06:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD0u4L08176 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:56:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E44B2FE90 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4E7577C44; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:55:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Not a Good Computer Day In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112183102.00a0aab0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 12, 2002 6:31:58 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:55:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113005559.4E7577C44@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Evelyn Duncan said: > > > When we lived in Mogadore I used to raise pumpkins. > > > And morning glories, four o'clocks, and inpatiens. > > > >My morning glories are blooming right now, at this moment, even though > >it's 5pm and sunset is around 5:30. --Karen > > What happened to your .sig, Karen? I've moved on. > Here's a perfect example of you living > in the now and Evelyn living in the back then. I always live in the now, even when it sucks. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:08:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD18swA013818 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:08:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045FA39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:07:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3625522 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:07:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:R8EPWFLyOEhLLloJQI0iKQkiPQHBkOBi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD0vfL08318 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:57:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B792FE90 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 156AE7C43; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:57:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <3DD10B5A.7881.1061314@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 12, 2002 2: 8:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 16:57:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113005741.156AE7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 12 Nov 2002 at 15:12, Karen Kay wrote: > > Please turn off HTML! > > Well, Karen, if your religion didn't forbid the use of modern > software this wouldn't be a problem. Tell it to the archives, bucko. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:17:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1HRwA013869 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:17:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04103359@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:16:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3626687 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:16:14 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail213.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.153]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1GEL10936 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:16:14 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.174]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113011756.BNKW24555.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1A7D5.8F89CF0F@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:16:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > >It is, of course, very close to the standard definition; cf. m-w: "1 a: one > >who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ". > > Peter! - read N's definition again: "A Christian is a person who agrees > for the most part with the morals exemplified by the literary figure named > Jesus of Nazareth." > > Note the hedges: "agrees ...with," "for the most part," "exeplified > by," "the literary figure named." I see "for the most part" as the only thing in what I said that might be considered a hedge. Whatever is about "agrees with" or "exemplified by" or "the literary figure named"?? > It's a vague statement of partial > agreement with some of the characteristics of a character in a > book! Yes. That is exactly what it was intended to say. You asked for *my* definition, not a dictionary definition. > It says nothing about living the teaching of ... about being > committed to ... etc. Correct. But the good news is that wojomedia seems to be working again! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:23:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1NhwA013936 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:23:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045FBCC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:22:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3626998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:22:31 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1MVL11699 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:22:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.15]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113012413.FYBB4711.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:24:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1A94F.4428EF2B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:22:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Say Something, Bradykins! References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112154452.00b6c070@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > In this case, probably > what was alleged---and what is being investigated---is whether Mr. Austin > received high-school credit for courses that he didn't take (or > failed). Yes, the allegation of an altered transcript appears to be part of it, although it does seem strange that they're investigating again what they investigated a couple of years ago and found ok. From what I've heard and read of it, this case doesn't sound nearly as suspicious as the one of our basketball star of the Final Four year -- Dontae Whatshisname, who had taken a zillion hours at a junior college to become eligible for entry here and for playing -- I mean a zillion hours in a semester -- something like that. He's the one that some people were sad to hear opted for going pro after just one year here but that people who knew much about him knew might as well leave. There's no way he could've played a second season. He was failing every course. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:26:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1Q5wA013950 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:26:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041033BE@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:24:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:24:52 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1OcL11903 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:24:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.15]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113012620.GAEJ4711.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:26:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1A9D0.A7450001@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:24:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> <20021112205847.GA16009@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > Note the hedges: "agrees ...with," "for the most part," "exeplified > > by," "the literary figure named." It's a vague statement of partial > > agreement with some of the characteristics of a character in a > > book! It says nothing about living the teaching of ... about being > > committed to ... etc. > > I find it hard to understand it too, but yes--that lameass hedging > excuse for a definition IS considered "very close" to the standard > definition by a lot of highly educated people! They really DO NOT > see the difference! The difference between what and what? Bethany didn't ask for *the* definition, as in a dictionary or definition. She asked for my personal definition. I see lots of differences between my personal definition and a definition. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:32:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1WswA014004 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:32:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041033FB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:31:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627284 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:31:41 -0500 Received: from imf11bis.bellsouth.net (mail311.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.171]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1VfL12526 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:31:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.15]) by imf11bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113013323.GGOW4711.imf11bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:33:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1AB77.5F3AD0F1@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:31:35 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <20021112203536.01F797C43@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD16C04.4C74E26C@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Bethany K. Dumas writes, > > > > > > >Thank you for giving us your definition. I think it stinks, spiritually, > > It always surprises me when self-professed Christians call others names. She was calling the defintion a name, not calling a person a name. I do, however, find it amusing that Bethany asked for my definition while obviously believing that only hers is . She seems to feel annoyed that somebody with my kind of view might be trying to horn in on xtianity. I tried to answer her two questions honestly -- the questions of whether I considered myself a xtian and what my definition of it was. If it will make Bethany happy not to have the likes of me in her exclusive club, then I'll change my answer and just say no -- I'm not one. I certainly don't want to be a party-crasher. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:39:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1dpwA014180 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:39:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045FD3D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:38:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:38:38 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1ccL13296 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:38:38 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.18]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113014017.HFLC9833.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:40:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1AD12.56A1DD47@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:38:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Good Article References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021112154500.00aacde8@mail.attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri wrote: > >Good re the Iraq frenzy: > >http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1110-07.htm > > This article reminds me of something I heard the other day. Someone said > that the bulk of our foreign aid money goes to Israel to help beef up their > defenses. I can't remember where I heard this nor can I remember the figure > (a guess would be over 70%). I don't have any idea what the percentage is. I've probably read it, but my brain rarely retains numbers of that kind. I do know that the US spends quite a bit in support of Israeli terrorism -- probably paid for the gun that shot that three-year-old Palestian child in the back yesterday or today or whenever it was. Or was he two years old? I guess zapping them while they're still toddlers does cut down on future terrorist attacks on Israel. (And yes -- the terrorism in the Middle East is on both sides. I don't mean to suggest it's one-directional. It's just that the US supports only one side of it.) (I realize the point of your posting was to ask about googling stuff. I assume somebody else will answer that. I don't know the answer.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:43:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1hZwA014348 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:43:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045FDA4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:42:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627853 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:42:23 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1gML13850 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:42:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.18]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113014404.HJDP9833.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:44:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1ADF8.C3083551@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:42:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true References: <20021112034042.09E667C42@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD0F20B.24473.A334BD@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > She has the shirt! > > > And the lot of them owe us photos, front and back, to go with > yours. I just remembered that I promised a better picture -- better than the one I took in the mirror. And that picture didn't show the back at all, which is definitely my favorite part of the shirt. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:46:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1kuwA014802 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:46:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045FDF2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:45:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3627933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:45:43 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1jgL14152 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:45:43 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAD1jfEM010997; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:45:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021112174729.00a38d70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:48:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021112231257.9E3C17C40@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021112151627.00a508a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:12 PM 11/12/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >Please turn off HTML! . Who died and made you boss? BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:53:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1rHwA014978 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:53:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045FE8C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:52:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:52:04 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1q4L14928 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:52:04 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.18]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113015346.HTON9833.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:53:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1B03E.41450F18@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:51:58 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <20021112224408.GA24934@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > To be honest, I think it "stinks spiritually" myself. There Did I claim there was anything spiritual in it? I don't think so. I find other religions more spiritual. > is no content in Natalie's definition, and I daresay Natalie > will not be able to point out anything which could be justifiably > called an innovation by the "literary figure called Jesus Christ". No, I can't. Or at least not off the top of my head. It's not as if I chose xtianity as my religion any more than I chose English as my language or USAan as my nationality. I was born into all these things. But I see no particular reason to reject xtianity, based on my experiences with it -- or at least I didn't before this discussion -- now I'm not so sure -- Bethany's commandeering of the religion is a bit . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:54:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1s6wA014982 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:54:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045FEA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:52:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:52:53 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1qrL14991 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:52:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.18]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113015432.HULI9833.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1B06C.BFEDC59B@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:52:44 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > I'd settle for "nothing shall be said about one's own religion." I like to hear about people's religions. I've always found it an interesting topic. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:55:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1tCwA014989 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:55:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0045FEBF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:54:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628249 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:54:00 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1rxL15093 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:53:59 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id TAA28173 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:53:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 00DC338699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:53:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:53:58 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Message-ID: <20021113015358.GA13342@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021112120225.034c8a60@mail.istori.com> <20021112205847.GA16009@pobox.com> <3DD1A9D0.A7450001@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD1A9D0.A7450001@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 07:24:32PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > Note the hedges: "agrees ...with," "for the most part," "exeplified > > > by," "the literary figure named." It's a vague statement of partial > > > agreement with some of the characteristics of a character in a > > > book! It says nothing about living the teaching of ... about being > > > committed to ... etc. > > > > I find it hard to understand it too, but yes--that lameass hedging > > excuse for a definition IS considered "very close" to the standard > > definition by a lot of highly educated people! They really DO NOT > > see the difference! > > The difference between what and what? Bethany didn't ask for *the* > definition, as in a dictionary or definition. She asked for > my personal definition. I see lots of differences between my personal > definition and a definition. Thanks for clearing that up. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 19:59:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD1xFwA015015 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:59:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045FF33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:58:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628380 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:57:58 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1vwL15399 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:57:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.18]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113015937.HZSO9833.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:59:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:57:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > > > I think it's all boiling down to "nothing shall be said > > > about other people's religion". > > > > I'd settle for "nothing shall be said about one's own religion." > > Same thing, unless you want to go deep into "who started it" > territory every time. > > I will say that the fault lies with people who with boundless > enthusiasm once again reply to "there's evidence there's only > one god" and other statements. Those who don't like such discussions can of course call that a "fault." I replied to Bethany's statement about the evidence of only one god because I really wanted to find out what evidence she had in mind. And that reminds me -- I don't think she's provided any yet. That strikes me as kind of funny given her telling me that I had not answered properly her request for my definition of a xtian. And here we still are without an answer to the "what evidence?" question. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:01:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD21fwA015186 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:01:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0045FF77@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:00:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:00:28 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD20NL15636 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:00:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.18]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113020205.ICES9833.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1B230.FA3BDAEE@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:00:16 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <200211122338.gACNcWL29574@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > >. When I move, (end of January) I'll have a rancher, no stairs to My mail-reading has been crazy the past couple of days. Have I missed the story of why you're moving to Idaho, when the decision was made, the plans for the move, etc? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:03:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD23cwA015201 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:03:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045FFA0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:02:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628511 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:02:25 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD22PL15789 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:02:25 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA01125 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:02:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 517AD38699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:02:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:02:21 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Message-ID: <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 07:57:49PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > I think it's all boiling down to "nothing shall be said > > > > about other people's religion". > > > > > > I'd settle for "nothing shall be said about one's own religion." > > > > Same thing, unless you want to go deep into "who started it" > > territory every time. > > > > I will say that the fault lies with people who with boundless > > enthusiasm once again reply to "there's evidence there's only > > one god" and other statements. > > Those who don't like such discussions can of course call that a > "fault." I replied to Bethany's statement about the evidence of only > one god because I really wanted to find out what evidence she had in > mind. Uh huh. > And that reminds me -- I don't think she's provided any yet. That > strikes me as kind of funny given her telling me that I had not > answered properly her request for my definition of a xtian. Well, the WORLD is kind of funny. Pretty much everybody in it is Christian, including most Muslims. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:05:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD254wA015208 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:05:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0045FFD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:03:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:03:50 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD23gL15882 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:03:42 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAD23eEM023093 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:03:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021112180409.00a34440@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:06:02 -0800 To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Fwd: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This didn't show up in my words-l mail so I am forwarding it. He sent it to uga.cc.uga.edu >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:42:06 -0600 (CST) >From: Stephen H Karlson >cc: words list >Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! > >Hi all. Thanks for thinking of me. I will look at the link and >contemplate a trip. > >Oh, keeping track of the Words-L dropouts ... Bill Sjostrom is running >http://atlanticblog.blogspot.com, he's been getting a lot of mentions from >InstaPundit (http://www.instapundit.com). I'm in that game too, although >less aggressively (http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com) > > > > > Someone has to contact Steve Karlson. For those who were absent on BI, > > > > this man sat across from me and ate his entire lobster using non-finger > > > > utensils. It was rivoting. > > > > Terry > > > > -------------------- > > We're talking about Acadia Fest to take place in Maine next > > July. :-) Check out the page mem put together. Click on the photo. > > > > http://www.words-l.net/ > > > > Hope you can make it. > >Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 >Department of Economics http://www.niu.edu/~ta0shk1 >Northern Illinois University 815 753 6980 (voice) >DeKalb, Illinois 60115 815 752 1019 (fax) > >ATTITUDE is a nine letter word. BOATSPEED. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:10:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2AZwA015662 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00460060@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:09:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3628432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:09:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:zaC6YQPOaF2nBEQxP9oBBvHUJT1PGxbU@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD1xKL15515 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:59:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409CB2FDCF for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B0B217C43; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:59:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021112174729.00a38d70@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 12, 2002 5:48: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:59:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113015919.B0B217C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 03:12 PM 11/12/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > >Please turn off HTML! > . > Who died and made you boss? No one. But I am your Conscience. (In this one little matter...) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:28:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2SiwA016205 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:28:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046025B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:27:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3629633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:27:31 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail201.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2RVL18642 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:27:31 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.178]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113022910.HLZM23489.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:29:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:27:19 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > Well, the WORLD is kind of funny. Pretty much everybody in it > is Christian, including most Muslims. Well, yes -- depending on your definition of "Christian." Or maybe not. If your definition of "Christian" means having read the Jesus story, then I don't think that "pretty much everybody" would qualify. But the general metaphor fits most people pretty well, I'd say. I mean what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of the same underlying ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:31:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2VuwA016237 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:31:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004602AE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3629346 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2KhL17888 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:20:43 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAD2KfTC011443 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:20:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:20:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD1AB77.5F3AD0F1@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >She was calling the defintion a name, not calling a person a name. I >do, however, find it amusing that Bethany asked for my definition while >obviously believing that only hers is . She seems to feel >annoyed that somebody with my kind of view might be trying to horn in on >xtianity. I tried to answer her two questions honestly -- the questions >of whether I considered myself a xtian and what my definition of it >was. If it will make Bethany happy not to have the likes of me in her >exclusive club, then I'll change my answer and just say no -- I'm not >one. I certainly don't want to be a party-crasher. I think you have me confused with someone else - maybe that preacher you were quoting? I do not belong to any exclusive clubs - well, maybe one: TVH. I also do not find it helpful to use words as Humpty-Dumpty did. YMMV, of course. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:32:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2W6wA016240 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:32:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004602B2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3629720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:53 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2UrL18988 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:53 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAD2UnEM018614; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:30:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021112183133.00a535b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:33:11 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <20021113015919.B0B217C43@yellow.rahul.net> References: <4.2.2.20021112174729.00a38d70@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:59 PM 11/12/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >Betty said: > > At 03:12 PM 11/12/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > >Please turn off HTML! > > . > > Who died and made you boss? > >No one. But I am your Conscience. (In this one little matter...) Okay. I was showing someone at work how to use colored fonts and didn't switch back. Do you always read words-l mail via the archives? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:33:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2XgwA016245 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:33:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004602D8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:32:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3629473 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:32:29 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2MTL18198 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:22:29 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAD2MRTC012677 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:22:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD1B03E.41450F18@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: >now I'm not so sure -- Bethany's commandeering of the religion is a bit >. Now I am amused1 Be careful, Natalie - I have not yet begun to commander! All I am doing is having a semantic discussion. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:37:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2bRwA016258 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:37:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00460370@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:36:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3630450 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:36:14 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2aEL20005 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:36:14 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAD2aCEM021234 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:36:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021112183535.00a5b3b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:38:34 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:27 PM 11/12/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Well, the WORLD is kind of funny. Pretty much everybody in it > > is Christian, including most Muslims. > >Well, yes -- depending on your definition of "Christian." Or maybe >not. If your definition of "Christian" means having read the Jesus >story, then I don't think that "pretty much everybody" would qualify. >But the general metaphor fits most people pretty well, I'd say. I mean >what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing >Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of >the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of >the same underlying ? Natalie, you really should not discuss religion. Your descriptions and comments seem to lack sensitivity and respect, imho. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:38:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2cvwA016272 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:38:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004603A3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:37:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3630538 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:37:44 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2biL20170 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:37:44 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAD2bgEM010011; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:37:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021112183937.00a4b340@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:40:03 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: References: <3DD1B03E.41450F18@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:22 PM 11/12/2002 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > >now I'm not so sure -- Bethany's commandeering of the religion is a bit > >. > >Now I am amused1 Be careful, Natalie - I have not yet begun to >commander! All I am doing is having a semantic discussion. Well, please spare us. BB From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:42:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2gnwA016291 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:42:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00460400@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:41:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3630656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:41:37 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2fbL20448 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:41:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113024315.DMCT1269.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1BBD4.9CAF5152@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:41:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > >She was calling the defintion a name, not calling a person a name. I > >do, however, find it amusing that Bethany asked for my definition while > >obviously believing that only hers is . She seems to feel > >annoyed that somebody with my kind of view might be trying to horn in on > >xtianity. I tried to answer her two questions honestly -- the questions > >of whether I considered myself a xtian and what my definition of it > >was. If it will make Bethany happy not to have the likes of me in her > >exclusive club, then I'll change my answer and just say no -- I'm not > >one. I certainly don't want to be a party-crasher. > > I think you have me confused with someone else - maybe that preacher you > were quoting? I do not belong to any exclusive clubs - well, maybe > one: TVH. I don't remember quoting any preacher on the definition. But your ideas about xtianity strike me as very much proprietorial. It's your turf, and anybody who doesn't see it the same way had best stay off that turf. > I also do not find it helpful to use words as Humpty-Dumpty did. YMMV, of > course. What words? (I'm not asking about Humpty-Dumpty. I know about his words. I'm asking why you're mentioning HD here.) Hmmm. Are you referrring to my definition of xtianity? I will say again that it was YOU who kept on and on about wanting MY definition -- not a dictionary definition, not a standard definition, but MY personal definition. If you wanted a dictionary definition, why not look in a dictionary? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2iHwA016300 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:44:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00460420@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:43:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3630685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:43:04 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail307.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.167]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2h3L20590 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:43:03 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.161.62]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113024445.DNJY1269.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:44:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1BC31.5CD7D1EE@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:42:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The rumors are true References: <4.2.2.20021112174729.00a38d70@uclink.berkeley.edu> <4.2.2.20021112183133.00a535b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > >No one. But I am your Conscience. (In this one little matter...) > > Okay. I was showing someone at work how to use colored fonts and didn't > switch back. Do you always read words-l mail via the archives? Archive-reading isn't the only time when html stuff is a pain in the eye. If you're reading in regular mail -- unix mailx -- it is very messy. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:46:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2kSwA016329 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:46:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00460457@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:45:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3630135 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:45:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:LhEEi2G5JsrncpoY8+sEj7VbHXUdTI84@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2ZFL19689 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:35:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C292FE1D for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:35:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 69C667C42; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:35:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The rumors are true In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021112183133.00a535b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 12, 2002 6:33:11 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:35:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113023514.69C667C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 05:59 PM 11/12/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > >Betty said: > > > At 03:12 PM 11/12/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > > >Please turn off HTML! > > > . > > > Who died and made you boss? > > > >No one. But I am your Conscience. (In this one little matter...) > > Okay. I was showing someone at work how to use colored fonts and didn't > switch back. Do you always read words-l mail via the archives? Often. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 20:51:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD2pMwA016735 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:51:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004604EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:50:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3630631 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:50:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PJrycb+kNF3sSiPLzEyET/SxOHfBamzc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2e8L20393 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:40:08 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22AB42FE1F for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E9A8F7C43; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:40:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021112183535.00a5b3b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 12, 2002 6:38:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:40:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113024007.E9A8F7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 08:27 PM 11/12/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >Tushar Samant wrote: > > > > > Well, the WORLD is kind of funny. Pretty much everybody in it > > > is Christian, including most Muslims. > > > >Well, yes -- depending on your definition of "Christian." Or maybe > >not. If your definition of "Christian" means having read the Jesus > >story, then I don't think that "pretty much everybody" would qualify. > >But the general metaphor fits most people pretty well, I'd say. I mean > >what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing > >Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of > >the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of > >the same underlying ? > > Natalie, you really should not discuss religion. Your descriptions and > comments seem to lack sensitivity and respect, imho. I think 'stinky' set the tone. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:00:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD30VwA018887 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:00:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004605F6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:59:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3631584 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:59:18 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD2xIL22677 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:59:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.72]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113030100.JUWO14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:01:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1C000.AFA2CA67@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:59:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <4.2.2.20021112183535.00a5b3b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty wrote: > > > Well, the WORLD is kind of funny. Pretty much everybody in it > > > is Christian, including most Muslims. > > > >Well, yes -- depending on your definition of "Christian." Or maybe > >not. If your definition of "Christian" means having read the Jesus > >story, then I don't think that "pretty much everybody" would qualify. > >But the general metaphor fits most people pretty well, I'd say. I mean > >what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing > >Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of > >the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of > >the same underlying ? > > Natalie, you really should not discuss religion. Your descriptions and > comments seem to lack sensitivity and respect, imho. I hate having to not discuss a topic I've always found interesting, but ok. I won't discuss it on Words-L -- though I'm not promising to not discuss it in other places in my life. It's probably true that I have a problem in the sensitivity required to make clear distinctions among religions (though I don't think it has anything to do with respect). I audited a course in Judaism six or eight years ago and never could quite figure out how its basic tenets differed from those of Christianity. I adored the Rabbi who taught the course and loved debating with him. (He later sent me e-mail asking me to write him a recommendation for something -- can't remember for what -- whatever it was, I wrote a glowing one.) Ditto other religions, though I haven't taken or audited courses in them. I've read books on most of the major religions of the world and can't see how they differ from each other in their . Surface structure, yes, but not deep structure. So yes -- I agree that I lack sensitivity. And this whole discussion has made me realize my views more clearly. In answer to your question, Bethany: No, I am not a Christian. I had thought I was -- as in it was my particular subdivision of a larger religion. But I'm thinking now that it may be too isolated -- too much an island -- too . I don't belong there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:23:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3NMwA019657 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:23:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00460869@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:22:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3632789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:22:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YIWX3T6pdoyG4rBk87TU+qyxVv9KaUXr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3M8L25307 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:22:08 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A522FDE1 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id D57AD2B86A; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C755A2B862 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:22:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD1AB77.5F3AD0F1@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > was. If it will make Bethany happy not to have the likes of me in her > exclusive club, then I'll change my answer and just say no -- I'm not > one. I certainly don't want to be a party-crasher. Bethany obviously wants you in, don't be stupid. I think you've been pitched to, actually. Don't play coy. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:26:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3QSwA019979 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:26:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04103ACA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:25:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3632960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:25:10 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3PAL25758 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:25:10 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5H00L8VW5XBR@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:25:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:25:12 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Beginning of Today To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD1C618.5020402@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <4.2.2.20021112183535.00a5b3b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DD1C000.AFA2CA67@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I hate having to not discuss a topic I've always found interesting, but > ok. I won't discuss it on Words-L -- though I'm not promising to not > discuss it in other places in my life. It's probably true that I have a > problem in the sensitivity required to make clear distinctions among > religions (though I don't think it has anything to do with respect). I > audited a course in Judaism six or eight years ago and never could quite > figure out how its basic tenets differed from those of Christianity. I > adored the Rabbi who taught the course and loved debating with him. (He > later sent me e-mail asking me to write him a recommendation for > something -- can't remember for what -- whatever it was, I wrote a > glowing one.) Ditto other religions, though I haven't taken or audited > courses in them. I've read books on most of the major religions of the > world and can't see how they differ from each other in their structure>. Surface structure, yes, but not deep structure. So yes -- > I agree that I lack sensitivity I think BB is referring to some of your diction, such as "flopping." It sounds disrespectful. I can even cite a literarary reference to referring to praying as "flopping" as being an insult (Tale of Two Cities). In general, I enjoy discussions of religion because of the thought and self-reflection they cause, but I don't like discussing it with people who don't listen or respond to what I'm saying in a meaningful way. > And this whole discussion has made me realize my views more clearly. In > answer to your question, Bethany: No, I am not a Christian. I had > thought I was -- as in it was my particular subdivision of a larger > religion. But I'm thinking now that it may be too isolated -- too much > an island -- too . I don't belong there. The Venn diagram is getting really weird. Can you be a non-Christian and a Methodist? Or are you out of it altogether? -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:26:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3QbwA019984 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:26:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04103ACD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:25:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3632974 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:25:23 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3PNL25778 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:25:23 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id VAA05137 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:25:23 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id AB2D338699; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:25:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:25:22 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today Message-ID: <20021113032522.GA18097@pobox.com> References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:27:19PM -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Tushar Samant wrote: > > > Well, the WORLD is kind of funny. Pretty much everybody in it > > is Christian, including most Muslims. > > Well, yes -- depending on your definition of "Christian." Or maybe > not. If your definition of "Christian" means having read the Jesus > story, then I don't think that "pretty much everybody" would qualify. > But the general metaphor fits most people pretty well, I'd say. I mean > what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing > Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of > the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of > the same underlying ? Well as long as it's understood that the definition you offer doesn't even correspond to any real-life notion of Christian. I haven't met too many people who believe that Muslims are Christian, for instance. However most Muslims would certainly follow the moral teachings of the "literary character known as Christ". What's the difference then? They merely believe he had some good ideas and maybe a few miracles, but that he was not the saviour and the son of god. But let me stop, since I may have inadvertantly made an obnoxious statement. I don't think there is any sensible doctrine-avoiding notion of Christian. Why the urge to be called Christian while sticking to a homebrewed moral code, I don't know. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:30:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3URwA020027 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:30:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00460934@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:29:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:29:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:7Skty424qzkvmIsln9sNtpVnlqxGTzMZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3TEL26139 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:29:14 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE9F2FE08 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 5190C2B862; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D1602B86A for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:29:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:29:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing > Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of > the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of > the same underlying ? I don't think so. I hate positing the same underlying . I have no argument or evidence for this, I JUST HATE IT. Like, we're all worshipping the same god, just some call it x y or z: I HATE THAT. HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:35:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3ZtwA020357 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:35:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04103B21@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:34:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633290 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:34:42 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail002.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3YgL26583 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:34:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.81]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113033624.WFER1995.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:36:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1C84C.DF43B539@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:34:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > was. If it will make Bethany happy not to have the likes of me in her > > exclusive club, then I'll change my answer and just say no -- I'm not > > one. I certainly don't want to be a party-crasher. > > Bethany obviously wants you in, don't be stupid. I think you've been > pitched to, actually. Don't play coy. Of course she wants me in. That's part of the xtian game that I don't like: the thing -- the implication being that xtianity is the -- to whatever the question is. But she wants me in only if I quit thinking the way I currently think and start thinking the way she thinks. I guess this posting is a violation of my promise not to discuss religion anymore on the list. Sorry. My excuse is that I'm thinking that this is still the same discussion -- that it's a carryover. But now I'm going to turn off the computer and go to bed and start my new leaf tomorrow of swearing off religious discussions. I plan to enjoy tonight's dreams of paganism, hermeticism (I love Henry and Thomas Vaughan), deism, and various other isms, including of course liberalism. Sweet dreams to you all, whatever your isms may be. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:42:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3g3wA020853 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:42:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00460A74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:40:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633173 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:40:50 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+KrP18eJ7TkTEWZsJMFtYcDSe9LPKe4z@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3UoL26307 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:30:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3512FE11 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8125E7C43; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:30:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: from Ann Borkin at "Nov 12, 2002 7:29:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:30:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113033046.8125E7C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin said: > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > > what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing > > Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of > > the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of > > the same underlying ? > > I don't think so. I hate positing the same underlying . I have no > argument or evidence for this, I JUST HATE IT. > > Like, we're all worshipping the same god, just some call it x y or z: I > HATE THAT. > > HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT I agree with you. For one thing, it leaves out my fave, pantheism. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:42:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3gTwA020856 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:42:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04103B79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:41:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:41:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OdzDt/oGcMfZyxBrT8GooK+S1scssxBA@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3fFL27354 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:41:15 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAC02FDFD for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id AC3572B862; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4EF2B849 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD1C84C.DF43B539@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Of course she wants me in. That's part of the xtian game that I don't > like: the thing -- the implication being that xtianity is > the -- to whatever the question is. But she wants me in > only if I quit thinking the way I currently think and start thinking the > way she thinks. People who have been saved do this - not just Christians. They just want to share the good news. Give her a break. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:43:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3hQwA020861 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:43:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00460A9E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:42:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:42:13 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3gDL27453 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:42:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.107]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113034355.WGWL7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:43:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1CA0C.B9D8D02@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:42:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <4.2.2.20021112183535.00a5b3b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DD1C000.AFA2CA67@maynor.net> <3DD1C618.5020402@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman wrote: > The Venn diagram is getting really weird. Can you be a > non-Christian and a Methodist? Or are you out of it altogether? This is still a continuation -- a carryover -- new mail had arrived, and I'm reading it. But I really am going to bed soon, ending my religious discussions with tomorrow's new leaf. Re can you be a non-Christian and a Methodist: I see Methodism as a subdivision of Christianity, which is a subdivision of the general religion I believe in. So I guess that concluding I'm not a Christian automatically lops off my being a Methodist. I can say in future conversations (not on Words-L -- elsewhere) things like "if I were a Christian, I'd be a Methodist" or "I used to be a Methodist." But no, I don't think I can call myself a Methodist while saying I'm not a Christian. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:47:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3lBwA021661 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:47:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00460B07@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:45:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3633804 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:45:58 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3jwL27779 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:45:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.107]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113034740.WKJH7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:47:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1CAF0.430D9956@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:45:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <4.2.2.20021112183535.00a5b3b0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <3DD1C000.AFA2CA67@maynor.net> <3DD1C618.5020402@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU PS: I have told the funny story, haven't I, about when as a small child a visiting friend asked me if I was a Christian and I said, "No, I'm a Methodist." The visiting friend went into the kitchen and told my mother, who found it hilarious and told the preacher, who told it at some point in his sermon the next Sunday --without my name, of course. But there was a church in Jackson called the Christian Church -- a denomination. So I thought when that little girl said "Are you a Christian?" she was asking whether I went to that particular church. (She was not one of my . She was kind of weird.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:53:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3rrwA022786 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:53:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04103C22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:52:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3634147 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:52:39 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3qdL28372 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:52:39 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.87]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113035420.VTZY24109.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1CC7D.1CBC2EA3@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:52:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> <20021113032522.GA18097@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > However most Muslims would certainly > follow the moral teachings of the "literary character known > as Christ". What's the difference then? They merely believe > he had some good ideas and maybe a few miracles, but that he > was not the saviour and the son of god. But let me stop, since > I may have inadvertantly made an obnoxious statement. Indeed you will be castigated. But yes -- what you say above is exactly my attitude. Jesus was a literary character the story of whom offers useful moral teachings. This literary character portrayed some good things -- like he had some good ideas and maybe some metaphorical miracles. The "saviour and son of god" part makes some metaphorical sense, the "son of god" part more than the "saviour" part. I've never been quite sure what we're to be saved from. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 21:58:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD3wawA022997 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:58:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00460CAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:57:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3634648 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:57:22 -0500 Received: from imf00bis.bellsouth.net (mail000.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.20]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD3vML28916 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:57:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.87]) by imf00bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113035901.VYJZ24109.imf00bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:59:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD1CD99.3061B23D@maynor.net> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 21:57:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > what's the real difference between flopping onto the ground and facing > > Mecca at a certain time of day and moving your hands/arms into a sign of > > the cross in certain situations? Aren't those surface manifestations of > > the same underlying ? > > I don't think so. I hate positing the same underlying . I have no > argument or evidence for this, I JUST HATE IT. > > Like, we're all worshipping the same god, just some call it x y or z: I > HATE THAT. > > HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT I don't get it, but I will accept it. I respect your right to prefer this fragmented god situation. And now I really am turning off the computer and going to bed, never to discuss religion again on Words-L, as much as that mandate bothers me. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 22:25:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD4PKwA026234 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:25:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00461162@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:24:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3639680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:24:06 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD4O6L01069 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:24:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAD4O5v27178 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:24:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:24:05 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021112180409.00a34440@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty, Thanks ... yes, I resubscribed, and mail is arriving, but my one post apparently went astray, that will be put right before long. > This didn't show up in my words-l mail so I am forwarding it. He sent it to > uga.cc.uga.edu > > > > > >Hi all. Thanks for thinking of me. I will look at the link and > >contemplate a trip. > > > >Oh, keeping track of the Words-L dropouts ... Bill Sjostrom is running > >http://atlanticblog.blogspot.com, he's been getting a lot of mentions from > >InstaPundit (http://www.instapundit.com). I'm in that game too, although > >less aggressively (http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com) > > > > > > > Someone has to contact Steve Karlson. For those who were absent on BI, > > > > > this man sat across from me and ate his entire lobster using non-finger > > > > > utensils. It was rivoting. > > > > > Terry Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 Department of Economics http://www.niu.edu/~ta0shk1 Northern Illinois University 815 753 6980 (voice) DeKalb, Illinois 60115 815 752 1019 (fax) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 22:37:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD4bewA026410 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:37:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410445A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:36:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3640011 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:36:26 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD4aPL02084 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:36:25 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAD4aJEM023260; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:36:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021112203811.00a46580@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:38:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.2.20021112180409.00a34440@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Excellent! At 10:24 PM 11/12/2002 -0600, Stephen H Karlson wrote: >Betty, > >Thanks ... yes, I resubscribed, and mail is arriving, but my one post >apparently went astray, that will be put right before long. > > > This didn't show up in my words-l mail so I am forwarding it. He sent it to > > uga.cc.uga.edu > > > > > > > > > >Hi all. Thanks for thinking of me. I will look at the link and > > >contemplate a trip. > > > > > >Oh, keeping track of the Words-L dropouts ... Bill Sjostrom is running > > >http://atlanticblog.blogspot.com, he's been getting a lot of mentions from > > >InstaPundit (http://www.instapundit.com). I'm in that game too, although > > >less aggressively (http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com) > > > > > > > > > Someone has to contact Steve Karlson. For those who were > absent on BI, > > > > > > this man sat across from me and ate his entire lobster using > non-finger > > > > > > utensils. It was rivoting. > > > > > > Terry > >Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 >Department of Economics http://www.niu.edu/~ta0shk1 >Northern Illinois University 815 753 6980 (voice) >DeKalb, Illinois 60115 815 752 1019 (fax) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 23:21:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD5LOwA028923 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:21:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04104727@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 0:20:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3640387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 00:19:25 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:s9B/1Ce13f9sNgZrfDZ/VOUaV/Lim/yF@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD4pEL04039 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:51:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B32E2FE16 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C19A97C43; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:51:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Survey To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:51:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tue Nov 12 23:59:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD5xqwA029566 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 23:59:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00461B88@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 0:58:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3645104 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 00:58:37 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD5wbL10596 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 00:58:37 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.74]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5I35R02.0AA for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:56:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD1E9CB.33A36CDD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:57:31 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> <20021113032522.GA18097@pobox.com> <3DD1CC7D.1CBC2EA3@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Indeed you will be castigated. But yes -- what you say above is exactly > my attitude. Jesus was a literary character the story of whom offers > useful moral teachings. This literary character portrayed some good > things Okay, I usually try to steer clear of these cookie fights, but I have to ask: "literay character"? Are you saying that Christ, son of Joseph of Nazareth, was a fictional characterization rather than a living person? There is evidence to the contrary from uninvolved persons, you know. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 01:17:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAD7HIwA031720 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 01:17:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00462273@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 2:16:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3649519 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 02:16:03 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD7G3L19803 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 02:16:03 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gAD7HqA08738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:17:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:17:52 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113081752.A8735@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:51:13PM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 08:51:13PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: = What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean = clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put = them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? Leave them in the closet (it's not a built in closet, but you get the idea). But then, the drying racks for the clothes are just outside the closet, and that's where we dump the mass of wet laundry. Since it's flannel shirt season, however, Pat is suddenly wearing lots more hanger clothes than during the summer and he's suddenly started using the bar that hangs above the washing machine to hang the wet shirts on. So, it might become convenient to leave some hangers there. We shall see. Then again, I've always left them in the closet. Though sometimes I'll get them out of the closet right before I hang up the wet clothes and hang them on the drying rack. When I was a kid, we'd leave them in the closet, and then maybe we'd fetch them and put them in the laundry basket. So sometimes when everything was all hung there'd be left over hangers in the basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there for the next round. Why oh why do you want to know this (well, not *all* this)? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 05:34:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADBYcwA013560 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 05:34:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041055D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 6:33:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3654889 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:33:21 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail008.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADBXKL07134 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:33:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.166]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113113503.TZVF1193.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:35:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2387A.FB21D144@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 05:33:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean > clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put > them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? Leave them in the closet. I find this an interesting question in that I can't imagine putting them somewhere else -- like where would I put them and why would I want to put them there instead of leaving them in the closet? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 05:40:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADBeFwA013576 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 05:40:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410560C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 6:38:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3655057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:38:58 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail008.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADBcwL07505 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:38:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.166]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113114040.UDUM1193.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 06:40:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD239CC.70351CD5@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 05:38:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: from Theo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The belated HB to Adam in this posting made clear that it was intended for the whole list, not just for me: > Subject: Re: WHTM at the store > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 22:24:55 -0800 > From: > To: Natalie Maynor ... > > >. When I move, (end of January) I'll have a > > rancher, no stairs to > > > > My mail-reading has been crazy the past couple > > of days. Have I missed > > the story of why you're moving to Idaho, when > > the decision was made, the > > plans for the move, etc? ... > Yes, I posted about my move earlier, but it evidently never reached you. > Starting tonight, I FINALLY seem to have convinced them, to send the list to > my mailbox. (yay) > Before I had to read all the digests and it was very awkward. > I'm moving to Idaho (suburb of Boise) Feb 1. > I'll be living close to my youngest dau, who promised to help me out. > Other good news is: I got to the grocery store, > thanks to my dau# 2's boyfriend.:-) > He has been more helpful than either of my 2 girls living in town. My oldest > couldn't even spare an hour for my birthday. BTW Adam, happy belated birthday! > So that's the latest from CO! Hopfully I'll find a server there soon, so I > won't miss out on too much. From a very happy Theo > > Theo I think the move sounds great! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 07:29:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADDTMwA014066 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:29:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004644DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 8:28:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3659029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:28:04 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADDS3L03838 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:28:03 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:28:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD25403.A662F97A@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:30:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <200211122338.gACNcWL29574@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theodora Groothof wrote: > Do they have those electric carts > where you shop? No. I have heard of these, but never have seen one. Why are you moving to Idaho? When? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 07:41:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADDfAwA014120 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:41:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04105C84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 8:39:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3659936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:39:48 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADDdmL05823 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:39:48 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-78.panax.com [63.163.41.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADDdkt20221 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:39:46 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113083858.00a0b090@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:39:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean >clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put >them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? >Karen You need a job. You have entirely too much time on your hands. I leave them in the closet. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 07:58:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADDwWwA014201 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:58:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00464823@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 8:57:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3661153 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:57:14 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADDvEL08309 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:57:14 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:59:40 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: great-aunt again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No. 9 arrived last night--Josephine. Wonder where they got that. Not a family name and rather rare these days. But a refreshing change from Britney and the like, I guess. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:10:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEAAwA014254 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:10:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04105F46@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:08:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3661844 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:08:52 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADE8qL09851 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:08:52 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.e4.30a1658e (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:08:43 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:08:43 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] great-aunt again To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 7:57:27 AM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << No. 9 arrived last night--Josephine. Wonder where they got that. >> Little Women? Congratulations! Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:13:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEDJwA014265 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:13:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004649BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:12:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3662032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:12:02 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEC1L10367 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:12:01 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-78.panax.com [63.163.41.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEC0t26351 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:12:00 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113091042.009f9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:11:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <3DD1E9CB.33A36CDD@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <3DD17F89.B29F9945@valstar.net> <3DD0F9B0.16306.C11366@localhost> <20021112232014.GA1394@pobox.com> <3DD1B19D.659E2FF3@maynor.net> <20021113020221.GA13718@pobox.com> <3DD1B887.B0B60879@maynor.net> <20021113032522.GA18097@pobox.com> <3DD1CC7D.1CBC2EA3@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Okay, I usually try to steer clear of these cookie fights, but I have to >ask: "literay character"? Are you saying that Christ, son of Joseph of >Nazareth, was a fictional characterization rather than a living person? > There is evidence to the contrary from uninvolved persons, you know. >JMW Thanks, JMW. I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to get involved. Now we can also test if Natalie will keep to the turnover of her new leaf and not answer us this morning. Odds? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:13:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEDnwA014269 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:13:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04105FA5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:12:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3662072 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:12:32 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADECWL10446 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:12:32 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.ad.2634876a (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:12:17 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:12:17 EST Subject: Gone To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peg Phillips, who played Ruth-Anne in Northern Exposure. I always liked the way she stood up for herself, especially when she stood up to Maurice after she paid off the lease of the store. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:23:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADENswA014333 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:23:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00464B18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:22:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3663032 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:36 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEMaL12318 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:36 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11596 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 09:22:30 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 09:22:14 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: great-aunt again Message-ID: <3DD219BD.10433.39B1A2@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Congrats Great Aunt Alyce (ooh that sounds so classy - everyone should have a Great Aunt Alyce) and congrats to Josephine and her parents as well BrP > No. 9 arrived last night--Josephine. Wonder where they got that. Not a > family name and rather rare these days. But a refreshing change from > Britney and the like, I guess. > > alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:24:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEO2wA014336 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:24:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00464B1A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:22:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3663040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEMiL12330 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:44 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-78.panax.com [63.163.41.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEMht28254 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092148.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >No. 9 arrived last night--Josephine. Wonder where they got that. Not a >family name and rather rare these days. But a refreshing change from >Britney and the like, I guess. --alyce Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I wish that would have been my name. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:29:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADETewA014358 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:29:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00464BBA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:28:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3663310 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:22 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADESML12898 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:22 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14605 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 09:28:21 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 09:28:10 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: great-aunt again Message-ID: <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092148.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Joey's a name for a baby kangaroo not a baby human BrP > > Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I wish that > would have been my name. > > > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:30:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEU8wA014381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:30:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00464BC2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:28:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3663323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:50 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADESoL12928 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:50 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-78.panax.com [63.163.41.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADESmt29349 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092606.00a07030@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:28:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Gone In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Peg Phillips, who played Ruth-Anne in Northern Exposure. >I always liked the way she stood up for herself, especially >when she stood up to Maurice after she paid off the lease >of the store. Evelyn Duncan I just watched that episode last week. "You pompous old goat!" I have twelve episodes of Northern Exposure on tape. Remember the one where Chris Stevens dreams he is at the Last Supper and the "entertainment" is his old friend Tooley? Tooley tells him the meaning of life: "Just take those records down off the shelf ... ... the ole time rock'n'roll." --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:31:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEVlwA014386 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:31:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00464C21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:30:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3663597 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:30:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEUTL13460 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:30:29 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-78.panax.com [63.163.41.78]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEUSt29644 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:30:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092931.00a01510@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:30:08 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092148.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stop the hate, br paul. You've been picking on me lately! >Joey's a name for a baby kangaroo not a baby human >BrP > > > Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I wish that > > would have been my name. > > --bonniev --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:37:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEblwA014404 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:37:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410621C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:36:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3663991 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:36:27 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEaML14493 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:36:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gADEaHt15319 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:36:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:36:17 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU They stay in the closet until laundry day. The used clothes go in the hamper. > What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean > clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put > them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:44:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEiSwA014412 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:44:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00464D83@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:43:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3664311 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:43:10 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEh9L15399 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:43:09 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5IRG000.BCP for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:40:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD26496.EBC92BCB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:41:26 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <200211122338.gACNcWL29574@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DD25403.A662F97A@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > Theodora Groothof wrote: > > > Do they have those electric carts > > where you shop? > > No. I have heard of these, but never have seen one. > Why are you moving to Idaho? When? If she's going to Boise that's the home of Albertsons, and they do indeed have electric grocery carts, as does every other supermarket in the GMA. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:45:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEjhwA014441 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:45:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041062A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:44:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3664356 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:44:25 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEiOL15544 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:44:24 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5IRI302.KBK for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD264E6.B02DC8D4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:42:46 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: Welcome back, Kommodore! Tack-lifting over for the season, I take it? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:46:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEkrwA014448 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:46:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00464DD4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:45:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3664456 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:45:35 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEjZL15835 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:45:35 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:45:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2662B.C2A9F138@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:48:11 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: great-aunt again References: <3DD219BD.10433.39B1A2@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > Congrats Great Aunt Alyce (ooh that sounds so classy - everyone should have a > Great Aunt Alyce) > Yes, except Great Aunt Alyce has trouble keeping track of all those children. It is a lot of presents, I tell you. I had Great Aunts Stells, Clara, and Carrie (who was another Clara). alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:47:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADElswA014454 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:47:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00464DF5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:46:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3664525 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:46:36 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEkaL16002 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:46:36 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:46:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD26669.488EB127@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:49:13 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: great-aunt again References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092148.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I wish that > would have been my name. Maybe she'll become a nun. This is a child of my Catholic-convert niece. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 08:48:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADEmVwA014459 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:48:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00464E02@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 9:47:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3664532 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:47:12 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADEl0L16040 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:47:00 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:46:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD26685.EE8F4CA2@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:49:41 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: great-aunt again References: <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > Joey's a name for a baby kangaroo not a baby human > Yeah, she'd be hopping mad. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 09:21:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADFLswA014608 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:21:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00465278@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:20:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3668291 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:20:36 -0500 Received: from pasta.cc.uga.edu (pasta.cc.uga.edu [128.192.252.19]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADFKaL23502 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:20:36 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@[131.156.1.37]) by pasta.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAD0hZB07110 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 19:43:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAD0g6P15579; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:42:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:42:06 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: Betty cc: words list Subject: Re: Acadia Fest - revisited !!! In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021025193357.00b24ae0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi all. Thanks for thinking of me. I will look at the link and contemplate a trip. Oh, keeping track of the Words-L dropouts ... Bill Sjostrom is running http://atlanticblog.blogspot.com, he's been getting a lot of mentions from InstaPundit (http://www.instapundit.com). I'm in that game too, although less aggressively (http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com) > > > Someone has to contact Steve Karlson. For those who were absent on BI, > > > this man sat across from me and ate his entire lobster using non-finger > > > utensils. It was rivoting. > > > Terry > > -------------------- > We're talking about Acadia Fest to take place in Maine next > July. :-) Check out the page mem put together. Click on the photo. > > http://www.words-l.net/ > > Hope you can make it. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 Department of Economics http://www.niu.edu/~ta0shk1 Northern Illinois University 815 753 6980 (voice) DeKalb, Illinois 60115 815 752 1019 (fax) ATTITUDE is a nine letter word. BOATSPEED. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 09:25:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADFPawA014624 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:25:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004652E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:24:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3667546 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:24:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lMdeVrHrGJjcrACwcq1b/Zey6/vxPhc3@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADFEIL22121 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:14:18 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2792FE53 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6961E7C11; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:14:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <3DD219BD.10433.39B1A2@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 9:22: 6 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:14:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113151417.6961E7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > Congrats Great Aunt Alyce (ooh that sounds so classy - everyone should have a > Great Aunt Alyce) I had a Great Aunt Alice. > and congrats to Josephine and her parents as well >From me, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 09:26:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADFQowA014631 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:26:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04106903@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:25:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3667695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:25:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:lEZz7LO+ESBsl0fffK6bA9F28w7ADAkV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADFFUL22407 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:15:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6713B2FE5F for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 34A237C10; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:15:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <3DD26496.EBC92BCB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 13, 2002 7:41:26 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:15:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > alyce cresap wrote: > > > Theodora Groothof wrote: > > > > > Do they have those electric carts > > > where you shop? > > > > No. I have heard of these, but never have seen one. > > Why are you moving to Idaho? When? > > If she's going to Boise that's the home of Albertsons, and they do > indeed have electric grocery carts, as does every other supermarket in > the GMA. Here, too, I'm pretty sure. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 09:34:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gADFYBwA014681 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:34:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04106A1C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3669762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:51 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADFWpL26271 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:51 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19279 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 10:32:50 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 10:32:47 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: great-aunt again Message-ID: <3DD22A4C.15997.7A6004@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092931.00a01510@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm trying to learn to be meaner. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr BrP > Stop the hate, br paul. You've been picking on me lately! > > >Joey's a name for a baby kangaroo not a baby human > >BrP > > > > > Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I wish that > > > would have been my name. > > > --bonniev > > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:08:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6f027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00465746@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:53:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3672179 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:53:45 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADFrjL31540 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:53:45 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27716 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 10:50:09 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 10:49:57 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:49:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <3DD22E53.32487.8A1ABE@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113083858.00a0b090@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean > >clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put > >them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? > >Karen > > You need a job. You have entirely too much time on your hands. I leave > them in the closet. > > > --bonniev Bonnie, I have so much to learn. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:08:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6f027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00465515@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:37:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3669205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:37:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wHrDIQb/bddNrTwLyOpOgMzvFplXMl+/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADFRaL25240 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:27:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CE42FE23 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0098A7C16; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:27:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113083858.00a0b090@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 13, 2002 8:39:25 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:27:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113152735.0098A7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean > >clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put > >them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? > >Karen > > You need a job. You have entirely too much time on your hands. No, this is something that has vexed me since I've lived here. > I leave them in the closet. This doesn't work very well. I think it's because there are so many closets and so many rods. When I do laundry, I usually need more hangers than are available on the rod I'm going to put the clean clothes on. I don't know why that's true, just that it is. I usually have to scavenge hangers from almost all the rods. If I had a rod over my washer, I'd put them there. What I have instead is cabinets, and eyelevel cabinet space seemed too valuable to waste on hangers. Also, hangers in cabinets is awkward. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6g027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00465F06@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:40:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3678921 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:40:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGedV12771 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:40:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD28114.6C9B7A35@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:43:00 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: The new baby Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU She is to be called Josie. Happy, Bonnie Mae? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6h027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004660E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:52:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3679045 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:52:08 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ewpy6XSeteZAYnIipxrrWMcRh4Eb7MlV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGg8V13142 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:42:08 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8392A2FDCF for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4DD687C12; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:42:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Nov 13, 2002 8:27:23 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:42:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113164207.4DD687C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay said: > stevie said: > > When I was a kid, we'd leave them in the closet, and then maybe > > we'd fetch them and put them in the laundry basket. So sometimes > > when everything was all hung there'd be left over hangers in the > > basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there > > for the next round. > > I'd do this, except I put dirty clothes in the basket (and do laundry > when it's full. ^) > > Why oh why do you want to know this (well, not *all* this)? > > Because leaving the hangers in the closet doesn't work for me, and > I've been putting hangers on the loveseat in the living room, which > doesn't seem too hospitable. > > Karen > Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6h027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00466316@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:05:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3680774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:05:28 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hAp8aM/jrd3S6DtRSfqzMkAp911i/l5j@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGtSV16490 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:55:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D642D2FE11 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:55:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9BF6B7C0E; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:55:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: from "Bethany K. Dumas" at "Nov 13, 2002 11:43:29 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:55:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113165527.9BF6B7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Bethany K. Dumas said: > I periodically donate hangers to my dry cleaning establishment. They even > give me special little cardboard containers to put them in. I don't have leftover hangers, Bethany. When I moved here, I carefully bought just the right number of plastic hangers. I have maybe 3 wire hangers that I use for oldish t-shirts. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6i027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004663A1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:08:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3681164 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:08:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:uGO1yDr379epOIHBDoQE038ugrdn4uhV@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGwhV17460 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:58:43 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033782FDDB for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:58:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A77957C12; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:58:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD28444.5F55BA80@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 13, 2002 11:56:36 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:58:42 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113165842.A77957C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > >From the WSJ online: > > "Losses widened on Wall Street after Federal Reserve Chairman Alan > > Greenspan said falling stock prices and worries about a war with Iraq > > were dimming growth prospects for the economy." > > > > I just hope Georgie Porgie listens. > > He will not listen. However, the market turned around at about 11 this > morning when Iraq accepted the inspectors. The date on this article was 10:38ET. Clearly, this is why they call news, news.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6i027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00466566@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:19:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3682726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:19:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:+ST2udd4oQWQoR7+UR/uS8BJRocDFnwt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADH9YV20378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:09:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B7E2FE0E for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:09:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DFEC37C31; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:09:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113085438.035f2460@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 13, 2002 8:57:40 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:09:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113170933.DFEC37C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Karen Kay writes, > > >I just hope Georgie Porgie listens. > > Uh, no. He doesn't listen. Besides, the Administration has its heart set > on this one, citizens, Constitution, UN, world be damned. Everything I've read says that the economy is crucial to his re-election prospects. I have to hope that self-interest wins out. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6i027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004666F9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:30:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:30:18 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHUIV25591 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:30:18 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:30:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD28CC9.EA67661B@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:57 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: Was Saddam Hussein trying > to demonstrate that he was complying in spite of the wishes of "the people" ? That's how I see it. That he is a totally cooperative person, and has had to go against the tide in order to comply. And now that he has complied, we will begin the dance--can the inspectors go wherever they want whenever they want? Will the US pull a trick like last time and pull the inspectors out? (I can't get over the fact that people still think that they were expelled.) What will be the straw that breaks GWB's back so that he starts the attack? alyce alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6k027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004668B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:41:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685544 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:41:16 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:VvVC1NT+bWOMkRInzmJArfs/sPbNta55@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHVGV25812 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:31:16 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C5822FE71 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 41F0F7C11; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:31:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113192938.A1310@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 13, 2002 7:29:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:31:15 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113173115.41F0F7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie said: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:27:23AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > = stevie said: > = > When I was a kid, we'd leave them in the closet, and then maybe > = > we'd fetch them and put them in the laundry basket. So sometimes > = > when everything was all hung there'd be left over hangers in the > = > basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there > = > for the next round. > = > = I'd do this, except I put dirty clothes in the basket (and do laundry > = when it's full. > > I think we frequently put dirty laundry on top of the hangers. Well, that doesn't make it right! Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6j027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004668C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:42:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685642 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:42:05 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:24XcTOdOwy0m468p6T93J4esKahuoW/6@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHW5V26057 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:05 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8852FD82 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 5A2A07C24; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:32:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD28CC9.EA67661B@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 13, 2002 12:32:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:32:04 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113173204.5A2A07C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > What will be the straw that breaks GWB's > back so that he starts the attack? 'Straw', definitely. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6m027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00466E30@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:21:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:21:55 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADILt604736 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:21:55 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21227 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:21:55 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:21:35 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:21:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Message-ID: <3DD251D7.5138.B81579A@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021113172238.177DB7C42@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 12: 5:28 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thank you. BrP > > And it's 'casus belli', 'occasion of war'. It's related to case, not > cause, which would be causa. [I was sure it was casus belli, but I > didn't think about the relationship between case and cause until just > now.] > > Karen > "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that > some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, > then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. > There is no rectitude. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6l027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00466BC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:04:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3689148 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:04:45 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADI4j600803 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:04:45 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021113180436.QRIE6356.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:04:36 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113094630.0360f530@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:04:26 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <001401c28b3c$c46be860$930332d1@0018079268> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113085438.035f2460@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >Er, ah, you think, Pete, that Republican owned companies will skew the >machines at the factory? There are those concerned that this already happened in the elections earlier this month. http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingSecurity.htm Also see another resource page with less emphasis on paranoia: http://www.talion.com/election-machines.html >Somehow this entire post seems beneath you. Sorry! The Administration's sense of arrogance, elitism and entitlement bring out the worst in me. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6l027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00466AC3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:57:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3687424 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:57:02 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHl2V29789 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:47:02 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gADHl1EM029961 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:47:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113100353.00a75090@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:04:28 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113173210.GB2201@pobox.com> References: <20021113162928.BE9E77C31@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD2387A.FB21D144@maynor.net> <20021113162928.BE9E77C31@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:32 AM 11/13/2002 -0600, you wrote: >On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:29:28AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > > Leave them in the closet. I find this an interesting question in that I > > > can't imagine putting them somewhere else -- like where would I put them > > > and why would I want to put them there instead of leaving them in the > > > closet? > > > > One reason I don't leave them in the closet is because I use plastic > > hangers--they take up room whether they have clothes on them or not. > > And I don't have extra space on most of the rods I use. > >Why do you have more clothes than space for plastic hangers on rods? >Give them away or get a bigger closet. At last a voice of reason but who gives a flying fuck about hangers. Make something out of them and stick in the yard. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6k027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00466931@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:45:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3687315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:45:54 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHjsV29536 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:45:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gADHjqB24629 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:45:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c28b3c$c46be860$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113085438.035f2460@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Blech Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:47:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along > with of course oil company profits, presumably the leading economic > indicator for the Administration). > > Besides, with the Supremes picked by Republicans, Republicans in control of > the House and Senate, and Republicans owning the companies making the new > voting machines, do you *really* think President "as adjudicated, not > elected" Bush will have trouble winning the election? > > Pete Er, ah, you think, Pete, that Republican owned companies will skew the machines at the factory? Somehow this entire post seems beneath you. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6l027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00467051@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:38:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3692993 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:38:39 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIcd608643 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:38:39 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:38:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD29CCE.B39FF38A@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:18 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021113174512.CAFF67C24@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I believe that he'll have trouble winning the popular vote. For what > that's worth. Worth very little. By the way, I read that in Texas the other day, three of four candidates in a race ended up with exactly the same number of votes, something like 10,782 apiece. I am sure there was nothing wrong with the voting machines, though. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6n027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00466F47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:29:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3692157 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:29:19 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADITI606474 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:29:18 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25535 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:29:18 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:28:50 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:28:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021113175219.A80697C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021113195019.A1509@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 13, 2002 7:50:19 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU That's why hampers are made out of stuff like wicker - containment with ventilation. BrP > I've never understood the whole hamper thing. Don't clothes get smelly > when they are closed up? > > Karen > "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that > some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, > then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. > There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6l027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00467053@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:38:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691995 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:38:49 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:goXsBZrqrxp689ETNRtdD2PKTbcZUs2n@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADISn606196 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:28:49 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC3B2FE3E for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BB26A7C16; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:28:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD251D7.5138.B81579A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 1:21:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:28:48 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113182848.BB26A7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > Thank you. Thank *you*. I had thought till now that it was 'cause of war'. The distinction is a nice one. I don't remember enough Latin to know if that would be causa belli or something else. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6m027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004670AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:42:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3692357 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:42:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5hS2Zys2I/eJmha4htLXnfAkLfhJzoTW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIWD607100 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:32:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C180C2FF87 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 54F127C46; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 1:28:45 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:32:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113183212.54F127C46@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > That's why hampers are made out of stuff like wicker - containment with ventilation. But wicker molds, and I'd have my homeowner's insurance canceled! I did see a nice hamper at Walmart, but there was no price on it. It was open, made of a loose-woven cloth you could through in the wash. The cloth fit over a sturdy metal frame. And I guess the question of ideal hamper fits into the category of TMTOMH. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6m027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00467157@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:48:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693998 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:48:25 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADImP611331 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:48:25 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06072 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:48:26 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:47:58 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:47:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <3DD2580D.32023.B999982@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021113183212.54F127C46@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 1:28:45 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I toss my laundry directly into the washing machine (well, it lives on the floor overnight). When it's full, I toss in soap and hit "wash." I usually get dressed out of the dryer. Who needs hangers? BrP > I did see a nice hamper at Walmart, but there was no price on it. It > was open, made of a loose-woven cloth you could through in the wash. > The cloth fit over a sturdy metal frame. And I guess the question of > ideal hamper fits into the category of TMTOMH. > > Karen > "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that > some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, > then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. > There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6o027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046723A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:54:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:54:32 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIsV612621 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:54:31 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gADJuOA01685 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:56:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:56:24 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113205624.A1682@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> <20021113081752.A8735@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> <20021113192938.A1310@yoccoz.multinix.com> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113100536.00a71a00@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113100536.00a71a00@uclink.berkeley.edu>; from bclark@UHS.BERKELEY.EDU on Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:05:46AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = >I think we frequently put dirty laundry on top of the hangers. = = = TMI You're so funny. Ha ha ha. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6m027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046724D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:55:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694673 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:55:07 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIt7612754 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:55:07 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021113185459.TLAD6356.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:54:59 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113102215.035eb690@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:49:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <20021113174512.CAFF67C24@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, > > Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along > >I thought that myth had been busted? By economists, or the Administration? What's number one on the President's list of economic priorites? These are both from recent speeches listed on the President's "Economic Security" page , and are headlined as economic agenda speeches -- budget discipline, fiscal restraint, creating jobs, etc. July 15, 2002: "In order to make sure we have economic growth and vitality, in order to make sure we build on the foundation that is laid for economic growth, I will enforce fiscal discipline in Washington, D.C. I think it is so important that we make sure that we fund our priorities -- fighting the war and the homeland defense, educating our children -- and that Congress hold the line on additional spending." September 16, 2002: "It also means that we've got to set priorities. You know, every idea sounds like a brilliant idea in Washington. Everybody's idea is a great idea -- just up there they come with billions as the price tag. The bill is a little high. So I said, why don't we work together to create some priorities, starting with the most important priority, which is defend America against killers. That's the most important priority. (Applause.) I can't put it any other way about them, either. They're nothing but a bunch of cold-blooded killers. You've just got to understand that about the nature of the enemy. They hate us because we love. They hate, we love freedom, is why they hate us, and we're not going to quit loving freedom. And so our most important priority, when it comes to budgeting and time and effort is to protect innocent life here in America. And make no mistake about it, we will. We'll do just that. (Applause.)" Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6n027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00467276@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:56:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693646 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:56:44 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3BbuKSr0dA+1z0GEgVUDFUKUnq+o8OKw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIkh610614 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:46:44 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594A92FF92 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 23AEC7C12; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:46:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD2567C.9876.B937D30@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 1:41:18 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:46:43 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113184643.23AEC7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > Thank you. > > > > Thank *you*. I had thought till now that it was 'cause of war'. The > > distinction is a nice one. > > > > Karen > > > NO, thank **you**! > > oops, I mean grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Why do I feel this strange desire to stroke your head? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6n027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004677E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3698854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:25 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJePa24731 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:25 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2AB43.74507080@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:42:59 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: quest for pounds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In light of my continuing quest for pounds, and the difficulty of shopping, I signed up yesterday for Meals on Wheels. I have been fixing dinner, drinking Ensure Plus, and eating chocolate, but I am still not getting enough calories, and I know the meals are not all that well-balanced either. And so, I decided to try this new plan. You don't have to pay anything, but I am going to pay (and way more than their too-low suggested rate). The first one came today. Not bad. A small portion of Salisbury steak with gravy, half a baked potato, a good bit of spinach, a slice of rye bread with a pat of butter, a little cup of canned peach slices, and a half pint of skimmmed milk. I ate all of the meat, half of everything else. Will try to eat the rest of the peaches tonight, because I have no fruit in my diet ever. I know I should. Now we will see if I have the capacity to eat my regular dinner tonight. They say the meals on wheels thing is 1/3 of one's requirements. I can't imagine eating three times that, but will try to do at least 2/3 or a little more. Hey, Theo--have you called Meals on Wheels? alyce -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6o027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046787B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:45:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3698701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:45:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YYgNEMzZLl+hGLEmhFw3xdTlkJEMTJnf@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJZtd24137 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:35:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707702FFB1 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:35:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 360E87C11; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:35:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113210035.C1682@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 13, 2002 9: 0:35 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:35:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113193554.360E87C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie said: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 01:28:45PM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > = That's why hampers are made out of stuff like wicker - containment with ventilation. > = > = BrP > = > > Ooh. a ventilation clone! Is yours wicker? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6o027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004677F5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3698874 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJexa24778 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:59 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJewt02943 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113143940.009f6ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:40:36 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113152735.0098A7C16@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113083858.00a0b090@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >When I do laundry, I usually need more >hangers than are available on the rod I'm going to put the clean >clothes on. I don't do that. I only need the hangers when I iron. >What I have instead is cabinets, and >eyelevel cabinet space seemed too valuable to waste on hangers. Also, >hangers in cabinets is awkward. --Karen Attach a bar to the underside of the cabinets and hang the hangers there. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6o027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00467895@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699259 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:43 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJkha25715 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:43 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJkgt04296 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:42 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113144532.009f6600@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: The new baby In-Reply-To: <3DD28114.6C9B7A35@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >She is to be called Josie. Happy, Bonnie Mae? >alyce Yes, I'm happy. But Joey would have been even better. Maybe when she's a teenager, her friends will shorten it to Jo. That would be nice also. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6p027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004678B0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699334 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:46 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h005.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADJlja25927 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:45 -0500 Received: (cpmta 16348 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:47:44 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.120) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:47:44 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 19:47:44 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113140222.00af0c50@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:03:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:51 PM 11/12/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean >clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put >them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? > >Karen Usually I leave them in the closet. If a lot of them are hanging around I gather them and put them on the shelf above the rack. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6p027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004678B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:51 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h005.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADJloa25999 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:51 -0500 Received: (cpmta 16409 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:47:49 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.120) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:47:49 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 19:47:49 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113142456.00ae69d0@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:25:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: The new baby In-Reply-To: <3DD28114.6C9B7A35@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:43 AM 11/13/2002 -0500, alyce cresap wrote: >She is to be called Josie. Happy, Bonnie Mae? > >alyce If Bonnie's not, I am. I love that name. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6q027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004678E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:49:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:49:34 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJnYa26308 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:49:34 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.7e.31002450 (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:59 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.31002450.2b0406aa@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:58 EST Subject: legal question To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I have a question about joint tenancy (where two or more people equally co-own real property, and if one dies, all of the property goes to the surviving co-owners): let's say that two people are joint tenants and they both die, who gets the property? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6r027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00467959@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:53:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699666 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:53:25 -0500 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJrPa26843 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:53:25 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.d2.20ee851f (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:47 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:47 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] great-aunt again To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 11:42:50 AM Central Standard Time, karen@WORDWRITE.COM writes: << It's like a pussycat growling.:) >> You should have heard Sweetie this morning at 3; there was a little black kitten outside, and Sweetie was hissing and growling as if the little kitten was a mortal enemy. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6r027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004679BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:57:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699834 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:57:19 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJvJa27358 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:57:19 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:57:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2AF43.DD16651A@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:00:03 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri wrote: > > > Have we have a recent war that's lasted long enough to disprove this? > > I think the general public still believe it. Mainstream media mentions it > so often I see no reason for people not to think it's true. Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm did not improve the economy. WW II did. The circumstances were entirely different. This one won't help the economy--it will put us deeper into a deficit. It is not clear to me why the Republicans have no problem with deficit spending anymore, when they used to say how bad the Democrats were for doing it. And I don't understand why the Democrats did not capitalize on this. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6t027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004679E5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:58:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699441 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:58:44 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJmia26184 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:44 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gADJmgTC017806 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quest for pounds In-Reply-To: <3DD2AB43.74507080@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, alyce cresap wrote: >In light of my continuing quest for pounds, and the difficulty of >shopping, I signed up yesterday for Meals on Wheels. I have been fixing Excellent! Good choice! I hope things go well with it. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6s027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00467AD5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:06:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3700387 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:06:52 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADK6qa28791 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:06:52 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADK6ot09335 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:06:51 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113150501.00a0b560@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:06:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113183212.54F127C46@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >But wicker molds, Oh, yuck. There's another reason I'm glad to have moved out of the South. I now have a wicker hamper and do not fear mold. >and I'd have my homeowner's insurance canceled! >Karen Huh? You have an anti-mold clause? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6s027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00467CEC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:21:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3702908 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:21:29 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKLTa32369 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:21:29 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28316 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 15:21:26 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 15:21:16 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:21:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: legal question Message-ID: <3DD26DEA.14919.BEF0082@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU My guess: Fred and Barney would have to die at precisely the same time. If Fred outlived Barney for even a moment, then the property would be Fred's and subject to the terms of his will. BrP > > No, a will does no good except for the last person left. Let's say that > Fred and Barney (to use two of my instructor's favorite people) have > a joint tenancy in a farm, and Fred dies. Even if Fred leaves his share > to Wilma, she does not get it; Barney gets it all. So, if both Fred and > Barney die at the same time, who gets the property? > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com > > "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? > I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6u027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00467C56@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:17:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3702408 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:17:23 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKHNa31533 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:17:23 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.a1.30936d99 (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:17:13 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:17:13 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] legal question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 1:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << These people should make a will so it goes to whomever they choose. >> No, a will does no good except for the last person left. Let's say that Fred and Barney (to use two of my instructor's favorite people) have a joint tenancy in a farm, and Fred dies. Even if Fred leaves his share to Wilma, she does not get it; Barney gets it all. So, if both Fred and Barney die at the same time, who gets the property? Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6s027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00467EC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:35:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3704321 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:35:31 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKZVa02486 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:35:31 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021113203518.YMUD24365.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:35:18 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:35:08 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: No unborn children left behind, either Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Looked this up in answer to a question on another list about whether any insurance programs have defined an embryo/fetus as a person. The answer is yes, the US government, as represented by Tommy Thompson, just did so. This goes beyond the question of insurance coverage into the realm of pro-life / pro-choice, of course. Tommy Thompson issued a new regulation on 2002-09-27, published in the Federal Register on 2002-10-02, which changed the language of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), 42 CFR 457.10, from "Child means an individual under the age of 19" to "Child means an individual under the age of 19 including the period from conception to birth." The regulation went into effect November 1, 2002. References: US DHHS press release: Federal Register: October 2, 2002 (Volume 67, Number 191), pp. 61955-61974: (or go to , enter the search date as 10/02/2002 and search for e.g., "conception"). N.B. takes a *long* time to load. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6u027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468080@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705645 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:07 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKm7a04795 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:07 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:47:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2BB1D.A9D6BE8@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:37 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > The regulation went into effect November 1, 2002. Yup. I was surprised that so little notice was taken of it. It will be back to the coat hangers (since that is the topic du jour). alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6t027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00467F41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3704691 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKcia03177 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:44 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKcht16353 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113153644.00a0f830@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:37:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: The new baby In-Reply-To: <3DD26635.3604.BD0E4B5@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113144532.009f6600@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD28114.6C9B7A35@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I get it. It's just ME you are being mean to. Well, go ahead and practice. I can take it. SOB !! >and when she has kids she can be Jo Mama >BrP > > > Yes, I'm happy. But Joey would have been even better. Maybe when she's a > > teenager, her friends will shorten it to Jo. That would be nice also. > > --bonniev --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6t027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468101@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:51:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706137 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:51:38 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKpca05710 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:51:38 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKpat19586 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:51:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113154728.00b39340@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:35 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, peter wrote: >The regulation went into effect November 1, 2002. None of this is particularly surprising. The administration wants all the cannon fodder it can get. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6w027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468146@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:53:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:53:38 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKrba06415 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:53:37 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gADLtV202163 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:55:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:55:31 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113225531.A2152@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113210035.C1682@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113193554.360E87C11@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021113193554.360E87C11@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 11:35:54AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > Ooh. a ventilation clone! = = Is yours wicker? = = Karen No, white plastic. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6v027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004681CC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:57:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:57:52 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKvla07288 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:57:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gADKvkk19126 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:57:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:57:46 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD264E6.B02DC8D4@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, I took a sabbatical for sailing, owing to difficulties with an old car. New car, and new sailing, next summer. There's been some progress on the railroad, and Bill Sjostrom and I are raising some hell in the blogosphere. Cheers, Steve (Karlson) > Welcome back, Kommodore! Tack-lifting over for the season, I take it? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6u027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046811E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:52:45 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:52:44 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKqga06109 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:52:42 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKqft19858 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:52:41 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113155148.00a18410@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:52:18 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: quest for pounds In-Reply-To: <3DD2BB8F.66480F65@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113153421.00a00520@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >She was fast. She just thrust the meal into my hand and ran off. Not >unfriendly, but very hurried. I was told by the manager lady that they >don't want to stay and chat. --alyce Too bad. My Wisconsin friend stays to chat. I think that's nicer. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6u027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468208@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:59:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705819 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:59:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:afnpMjlTbIthVck/CjfWjXK8sJvVdyHY@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKnda05076 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:49:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B831E2FE2A for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 91A277C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:49:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113154630.00a11180@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 13, 2002 3:47:58 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:49:34 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113204934.91A277C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >People seldom die 'at the same time'. If they do, then a bunch of > >lawyers make a bunch of money. --Karen > > There is language in our will that defines what "at the same time" will > mean. And it doesn't mean at the exact same moment. If we were hurt in > the same car accident but died a few days apart, that would count as "at > the same time." Kewl. What happens to your house if you die at the same time? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6g027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00465FDD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:46:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3677425 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:46:04 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bmDihRxVJM7h1sS34K3vsa96Gr/FjemB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGa4V10601 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:36:04 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AB12FE72 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 780FC7C41; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Blech To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113163603.780FC7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From the WSJ online: "Losses widened on Wall Street after Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said falling stock prices and worries about a war with Iraq were dimming growth prospects for the economy." I just hope Georgie Porgie listens. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6v027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004682F1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:06:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3707803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:06:39 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL6Ea09051 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:06:39 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gADL68019885 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:06:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:06:08 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Boy, do I have to get some weblog links off to some of you folks ... > >Everything I've read says that the economy is crucial to his > >re-election prospects. I have to hope that self-interest wins out. > > Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along > with of course oil company profits, presumably the leading economic > indicator for the Administration). > > Besides, with the Supremes picked by Republicans, Republicans in control of > the House and Senate, and Republicans owning the companies making the new > voting machines, do you *really* think President "as adjudicated, not > elected" Bush will have trouble winning the election? 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    From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:08:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6g027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00465D20@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:30:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3676698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:30:15 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGUEV08570 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:30:14 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:30:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:32:53 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Here, too, I'm pretty sure. They do have the carts at several stores in this area, just not the one where I can go most easily. Although I complained about the long walk, my store is probably 1/3 the size of the larger supermarkets around here. A new one just has opened in Rhinebeck that is said to be as big as a city block. I can't imagine. That would have to have enough food in it to feed all of the county and beyond. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6g027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00465E34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:37:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3677580 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:37:54 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGbsV11003 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:37:54 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:37:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD28082.63BBF75@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:40:34 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ann Borkin wrote: > > > Jesus has become a fictional character. So has Abraham Lincoln, to a > lesser extent. Is literary figure the same thing as a fictional character? alyce > > Ann -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6w027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004683ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:14:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3708444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:14:27 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLEMa10454 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:14:22 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA27955 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 16:14:18 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 16:13:52 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:13:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either Message-ID: <3DD27A3D.16765.C1F2697@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The next step is to protect the rights of the unconceived It is absurd in the extreme to try to extend the definition of "child" to conception. Does this mean that kids in his state get to drink nine months sooner? Does this mean that a fertilized egg that fails to implant requires an inquest, coroner's report, and death certificate? BrP > Looked this up in answer to a question on another list about whether any > insurance programs have defined an embryo/fetus as a person. The answer is > yes, the US government, as represented by Tommy Thompson, just did so. > > This goes beyond the question of insurance coverage into the realm of > pro-life / pro-choice, of course. > > Tommy Thompson issued a new regulation on 2002-09-27, published in the > Federal Register on 2002-10-02, which changed the language of the State > Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), 42 CFR 457.10, from "Child > means an individual under the age of 19" to "Child means an individual > under the age of 19 including the period from conception to birth." > > The regulation went into effect November 1, 2002. > > References: > > US DHHS press release: > > Federal Register: October 2, 2002 (Volume 67, Number 191), pp. 61955-61974: > (or go to > , enter the search > date as 10/02/2002 and search for e.g., "conception"). N.B. takes a *long* > time to load. > > Pete Paul R. Barfoot Special Collections Syracuse University Library From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6h027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046644A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:12:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3682971 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:12:39 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHCXV20918 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:12:33 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10005 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 12:06:41 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 12:06:06 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:05:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Message-ID: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DD28444.5F55BA80@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I'm trying to understand (if understanding is even an option) why the Iraqi Parliament rejected the UN resolution and then the announcement today. It's not like Parliament would be filled with independent thinkers. Was Saddam Hussein trying to demonstrate that he was complying in spite of the wishes of "the people" ? Will the US now have to ratchet up the demands in order to its causus belli ? I hate these games. BrP > He will not listen. However, the market turned around at about 11 this > morning when Iraq accepted the inspectors. > > alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6v027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00468430@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:16:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3708603 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:16:02 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLG2a10756 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:16:02 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gADLG1B22617 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:16:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000601c28b5a$21b93aa0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> <3DD2BB1D.A9D6BE8@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: No unborn children left behind, either Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:17:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Peter Kaminski wrote: > > The regulation went into effect November 1, 2002. > > Yup. I was surprised that so little notice was taken of it. > It will be back to the coat hangers (since that is the topic du jour). > > alyce Does that make abortion punishable on a murder charge? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6w027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046860E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:31:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3709876 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:31:26 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLVQa13368 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:31:26 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA12256 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:31:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 9E9A338699; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:31:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:31:25 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: The saddest web game ever Message-ID: <20021113213125.GA353@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6x027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046864B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:33:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3709281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:33:28 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLNSa12098 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:23:28 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gADLNOsV021973 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113133909.00a63440@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:40:48 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113194251.1935C7C22@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113143940.009f6ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:42 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: >bonniev said: > > >When I do laundry, I usually need more > > >hangers than are available on the rod I'm going to put the clean > > >clothes on. > > > > I don't do that. I only need the hangers when I iron. > >I don't iron. > > > >What I have instead is cabinets, and > > >eyelevel cabinet space seemed too valuable to waste on hangers. Also, > > >hangers in cabinets is awkward. --Karen > > > > Attach a bar to the underside of the cabinets and hang the hangers there. > >Gee, Bonnie, that never occurred to me! Not. Gee, Karen, you asked a question. A stupid question granted, but a question. Now you don't like the answers? I really think you should not discuss hangers any further because you are so insensitive and disrespectful to people who were only trying to help. Throw the damn things out. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6w027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004686A6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:36:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3709419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:36:04 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLPwa12525 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:25:58 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gADLPvsV016909 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:25:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:43:24 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113144302.00a02ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:44 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: >> A new one just has opened in Rhinebeck that is said to be as big >>as a city block. I can't imagine. That would have to have enough food in >>it to feed all of the county and beyond. --alyce > >Speaking of Rhinebeck, Clyde loves the apron I bought him on sale at the >book store there in March. Remember Betty? It's his favorite. So >comfortable that sometimes he forgets to take it off after dinner. I remember you buying an apron but I forgot what it looks like. Is that the only thing he wears? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6x027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004688FD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:56:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3711122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:56:02 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:yepeb5sO6ZUOTvra4mMKowSSAdLfl5MK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLk2a15917 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:46:02 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB7C2FE57 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 237527C10; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:46:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <20021113213125.GA353@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 13, 2002 3:31:25 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:46:00 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113214601.237527C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > > http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm I like the status bar. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x70027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468A6E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:04:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:04:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:F1lPR3YIkI1FFkLBesbcOCRu8x39G3G7@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLsua17695 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:54:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C755830114 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 81B407C24; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:54:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> from lisa alfieri at "Nov 13, 2002 2:46:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:54:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113215455.81B407C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri said: > At 09:45 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > >Peter Kaminski said: > > > Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along > > > >I thought that myth had been busted? > > Have we have a recent war that's lasted long enough to disprove this? Gulf War. > I think the general public still believe it. Mainstream media mentions it > so often I see no reason for people not to think it's true. Maybe it's my own blinders or the media here, but I haven't read/heard anything to indicate that a war would invigorate the economy--everything I've read suggests the opposite. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x72027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00468E63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMeVB24880 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5JDJL01.BE1 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD2D5FD.367E138F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:45:17 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Gone References: <68.2899dd4d.2b040549@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > I wish A&E would still show the episodes. Until Joel left, > it was a very special program; after he left, it lost its heart > and soul. They had a couple of good episodes after that, but I agree, that's when they jumped the shark. I never did figure out why it was such a hit in Germany, though. 8-/ JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x70027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00468F03@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:47:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717236 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:47:27 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMlRB25870 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:47:27 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-45.panax.com [65.114.190.45]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMlMt14551 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:47:22 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:46:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <001001c28b5d$40aa09a0$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >I remember you buying an apron but I forgot what it looks like. Is > >that the only thing he wears? Betty He has something on underneath. >Please describe the comfortable apron. >I'm thinking of making some. > - D. M. Mostly it is the material that it is made out of which makes it comfortable. It is 100% cotton, made in India. It's a green and beige check which goes nicely with Clyde's green granite kitchen. It has a pocket and a loop on it. Clyde pins a dish towel through the loop which gives him a convenient place to wipe his hands and keep the apron from getting too dirty. It washes up nicely without shrinkage or need for ironing. It stays soft. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x71027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468F59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:51:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717488 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:51:02 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMp2B26315 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:51:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.169]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113225244.DTIU14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:52:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2D750.C0879313@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:50:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113152735.0098A7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I leave them in the closet. > > This doesn't work very well. I think it's because there are so many > closets and so many rods. When I do laundry, I usually need more > hangers than are available on the rod I'm going to put the clean > clothes on. I don't know why that's true, just that it is. I usually > have to scavenge hangers from almost all the rods. If I had a rod over > my washer, I'd put them there. What I have instead is cabinets, and > eyelevel cabinet space seemed too valuable to waste on hangers. Also, > hangers in cabinets is awkward. I'm finding this very confusing. I understand now (from what Steph wrote) how one might put empty hangers in places other than closets, but what I'm confused about is your clothes-storage system. Do you move clothes around from one closet or rod to another wantonly? I change them at season changes, which sometimes means changing them gradually when the weather is -- having a few coolish and a few warmish things in the same closet. But once the season is established, I keep the same things in the same closet -- like if I wash a blouse that lives on Rod X, the hanger stays on Rod X, where it is ready to receive the clean blouse when the blouse is ready to return to the closet. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6k027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004668F3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:43:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:43:56 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:H1YVwvUcDz7aXtWCmCtdiSy1ANelQfxp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHXuV26529 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:33:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C45E2FE28 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4355F7C31; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113173210.GB2201@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 13, 2002 11:32:10 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113173355.4355F7C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > Why do you have more clothes than space for plastic hangers on rods? I don't. I just don't have space for empty plastic hangers. > Give them away or get a bigger closet. I have 5 closets and 10 rods, but the rods are not evenly distributed among the closets. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x70027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004690DE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:03:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718781 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:03:20 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN3JB28153 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:03:19 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-45.panax.com [65.114.190.45]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN3It18060 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:03:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113180235.00a13a20@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:02:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either In-Reply-To: <3DD2CB43.53455666@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I don't know about other states but here if you shoot a pregnant woman in >the womb and kill the unborn child you're charged with first-degree murder. >JMW I thought it made a difference as to how far along the pregnancy was. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x72027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046913A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:07:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3719094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:07:07 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN77B28781 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:07:07 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021113224730.FZQV24365.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:47:30 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113142449.029c4d90@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: George, your Freudian slip is showing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't mean for this to be a cheap shot, and I'm not accumulating all of the President's little missteps so I can "get" him, but while I was browsing speeches, I saw this one and it was too good not to share. The "[sic]" was not added by me -- it's there in the whitehouse.gov transcript: September 23, 2002: "Congress also must understand they've got to pass an energy bill. You see, an energy bill will be good for jobs. An energy bill will be good for national security. We need an energy bill that encourages consumption [sic], encourages new technologies so our cars are cleaner, encourages new renewable energy sources, but at the same time encourages increase of supply here at home, so we're less dependent on foreign sources of crude oil. (Applause.)" Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x72027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469226@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:15:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:15:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RDA9cY5fmPJqw0Q4+IBh+L5MPqJS/ZLK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN5VB28516 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:05:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A06C2FDFD for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BDD2A7C11; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:05:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113165053.00ad0b08@mail.attbi.com> from lisa alfieri at "Nov 13, 2002 4:54: 4 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:05:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113230530.BDD2A7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri said: > > > Attach a bar to the underside of the cabinets and hang the hangers there. > > > >Gee, Bonnie, that never occurred to me! Not. > > > >Karen > > I don't understand why'you asked this hanger question so far you've either > disagreed with everything people have said or you've mocked them for their > ways. Then I should say: thank you to everyone who responded. I do appreciate it. (And I'm sorry if my teasing of stevie was too heavy-handed.) And look at the answers to my question, Lisa--it's not like those were entirely mock-free. > You're intelligent, you can figure this out yourself and if you can't at > least be considerate of people's suggestions. Why should I be considerate of unsolicited advice? Or even people who give me unsolicited advice? In any case, I *haven't* been able to figure this out myself in the year and a half I've lived here. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x71027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469279@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:19:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720158 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:19:35 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNJYB30903 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:19:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.169]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113232117.EXMF14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:21:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2DE01.3AF4A90F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:19:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > I periodically donate hangers to my dry cleaning establishment. They even > give me special little cardboard containers to put them in. I've gotten rid of most of my metal ones by tossing them in with stuff I'm taking to the Salvation Army. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x73027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004692BD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:23:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:23:02 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNN2B31582 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:23:02 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.169]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113232444.FBCB14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:24:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2DED0.28A38787@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:22:56 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > I'm trying to understand (if understanding is even an option) why the Iraqi Parliament > rejected the UN resolution and then the announcement today. It's not like > Parliament would be filled with independent thinkers. Was Saddam Hussein trying > to demonstrate that he was complying in spite of the wishes of "the people" ? I was also thinking about that when listening to NPR on my way to campus this morning, hearing that Saddam's son had urged them to vote yes to it and hearing that they'd voted no. This was, of course, before Saddam announced his decision. I do think there's an obvious plot involved -- I mean it's obvious that it's some kind of plot, not that the plot itself is obvious. Iow, I don't think the Parliament was making an independent statement. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x73027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046934E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720858 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:22 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTMB32374 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:22 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTJt25653 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113181203.00b73830@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:20:09 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <20021113210924.AB7E37C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113160140.00b6cfa8@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:09 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >My brain immediately thought of Lisa Alfieri first! But actually, I >think this is very sweet, given all that you've been through. Been through? Whatever I've been through in my life, it hasn't been her fault. Over the past seven years, we've forged a pretty solid relationship based on mutual respect affection. >I keep meaning to tell you, the King Arthur woman gave the Hearth Kit >oven inserts (http://www.hearthkit.com/) a very positive review. She >said that she was hoping to review them negatively (who needs to spend >more money?), but she couldn't. The cynic would observe that this is simply another marketing ploy. I'm sure that the inserts are effective. If I had two ovens, I might seriously consider devoting one to establishing the insert environment. Until that day (which probably will never come). I'll stick with the baking stones and the spray bottle. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x72027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469307@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:27:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720717 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:27:01 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNR1B32145 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:27:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.169]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113232843.FFED14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2DFBF.27570990@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:26:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021113170933.DFEC37C31@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Everything I've read says that the economy is crucial to his > re-election prospects. I have to hope that self-interest wins out. But many were saying that the economy would have an effect on midterm elections also. Yet Dubya managed to whip the voters into a defend-the-homeland frenzy that overrode thoughts on the economy. That may be pretty hard to sustain over the next couple of years, though. But I dunno. You've got to give the Republicans credit for being mighty crafty politicians. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x75027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469353@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720862 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:27 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTRB32381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTMt25669 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:22 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113182025.00b6f268@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:21:02 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Netscape quirk In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113164954.00ab19c0@mail.attbi.com> References: <20021113193508.B609F7C24@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD2A8F1.8C2BF28E@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:50 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, lisa wrote: >>It's a Sign From God that you need to upgrade. >> >>Karen > > >says the woman who balks at html laden messages. Damn! You beat me to it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x74027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469538@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:52:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3721640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:52:36 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:d6SlH+vgHRL4zplYSnweEaYygwSGlvVr@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNgaB01607 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:42:36 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F293012C for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3C5E87C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:42:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113181203.00b73830@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 13, 2002 6:20: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:42:35 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113234235.3C5E87C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 01:09 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > >My brain immediately thought of Lisa Alfieri first! But actually, I > >think this is very sweet, given all that you've been through. > > Been through? Whatever I've been through in my life, it hasn't been her > fault. Over the past seven years, we've forged a pretty solid relationship > based on mutual respect affection. What I meant was that you had lost contact for some time. Or am I misremembering? > The cynic would observe that this is simply another marketing ploy. I don't think so; she had cheap ideas about what to use instead of a baking stone. > Until that > day (which probably will never come). I'll stick with the baking stones and > the spray bottle. She suggested not using a spray bottle, but using lava rocks and pouring boiling water over them. (Because the crust is formed in the first 2-4 minutes, and that's when you need the steam.) Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6p027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004672AA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:58:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:58:43 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIwg613404 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:58:42 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gADK0ZZ01718 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:00:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:00:35 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113210035.C1682@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113195019.A1509@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113175219.A80697C0E@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost>; from prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU on Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 01:28:45PM -0500 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 01:28:45PM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: = That's why hampers are made out of stuff like wicker - containment with ventilation. = = BrP = Ooh. a ventilation clone! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6o027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00467870@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:45:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3698659 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:45:10 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:cYFGpGTUPIHho7g+wjJzjX/n/YCRXFKt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJZ9d23612 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:35:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250972FF9F for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B609F7C24; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:35:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Netscape quirk In-Reply-To: <3DD2A8F1.8C2BF28E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 13, 2002 2:33: 5 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:35:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113193508.B609F7C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Suddenly I am unable to delete messages with the Delete at the top of > the screen, and only can do it with the delete key on the keyboard. This > is totally silly and awkward for me. I have rebooted. It began when I > tried to delete a message from Doris ("Blech"), which hung everything up > and I had to controlaltdelete. Then her message kept hanging there and I > couldn't delete anything following it either (with the screen delete). > So, finally, I read all the messages and then deleted en masse with the > keyboard delete. But what could be causing that, does anyone know? It's a Sign From God that you need to upgrade. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6q027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00467859@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:44:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699142 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:44:37 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJiba25410 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:44:37 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJiat03803 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:44:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113144302.00a02ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:44:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> References: <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > A new one just has opened in Rhinebeck that is said to be as big >as a city block. I can't imagine. That would have to have enough food in >it to feed all of the county and beyond. --alyce Speaking of Rhinebeck, Clyde loves the apron I bought him on sale at the book store there in March. Remember Betty? It's his favorite. So comfortable that sometimes he forgets to take it off after dinner. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6p027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004678B3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699347 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:50 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h005.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADJlna25965 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:49 -0500 Received: (cpmta 16387 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:47:48 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.120) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:47:48 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 19:47:48 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113141441.00af3ca0@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:15:13 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <3DD22A4C.15997.7A6004@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092931.00a01510@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:32 AM 11/13/2002 -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >I'm trying to learn to be meaner. > >grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > >BrP I'm sure others have asked by now but, why? You're so sweet. lisa > > Stop the hate, br paul. You've been picking on me lately! > > > > >Joey's a name for a baby kangaroo not a baby human > > >BrP > > > > > > > Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I > wish that > > > > would have been my name. > > > > --bonniev > > > > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6q027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004678B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699383 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:53 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h005.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADJlqa26012 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:52 -0500 Received: (cpmta 16420 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:47:50 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.120) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:47:50 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 19:47:50 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113142706.04983df8@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:27:26 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: References: <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:43 AM 11/13/2002 -0500, Bethany K. Dumas wrote: >I periodically donate hangers to my dry cleaning establishment. They even >give me special little cardboard containers to put them in. > >Bethany Around here they don't take them back. They say it's for health reasons. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6q027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004678CA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699428 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:38 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJmba26160 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:38 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09967 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 14:48:37 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 14:48:25 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:48:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The new baby Message-ID: <3DD26635.3604.BD0E4B5@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113144532.009f6600@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <3DD28114.6C9B7A35@valstar.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and when she has kids she can be Jo Mama BrP > > Yes, I'm happy. But Joey would have been even better. Maybe when she's a > teenager, her friends will shorten it to Jo. That would be nice also. > > > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6s027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004678B9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699389 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:53 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h005.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADJlra26035 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:53 -0500 Received: (cpmta 16430 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:47:52 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.120) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:47:52 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 19:47:52 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:34 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <20021113174512.CAFF67C24@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:45 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >Peter Kaminski said: > > Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along > >I thought that myth had been busted? Have we have a recent war that's lasted long enough to disprove this? I think the general public still believe it. Mainstream media mentions it so often I see no reason for people not to think it's true. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6r027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00467943@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:52 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:nTY4L8Hj23lMjsiKeS5RW+czkEWCKE6q@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJgpa25165 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:42:51 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5258E2FFCA for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 1935C7C22; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:42:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113143940.009f6ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 13, 2002 2:40:36 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:42:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113194251.1935C7C22@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >When I do laundry, I usually need more > >hangers than are available on the rod I'm going to put the clean > >clothes on. > > I don't do that. I only need the hangers when I iron. I don't iron. > >What I have instead is cabinets, and > >eyelevel cabinet space seemed too valuable to waste on hangers. Also, > >hangers in cabinets is awkward. --Karen > > Attach a bar to the underside of the cabinets and hang the hangers there. Gee, Bonnie, that never occurred to me! Not. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6r027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004679F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:59:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699881 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:59:12 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJxBa27474 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:59:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:58:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2AF86.67A2983D@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:01:10 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: legal question References: <7e.31002450.2b0406aa@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > I have a question about joint tenancy (where two or more people > equally co-own real property, and if one dies, all of the property > goes to the surviving co-owners): let's say that two people are > joint tenants and they both die, who gets the property? > These people should make a will so it goes to whomever they choose. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6s027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00467BD1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:12:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3701803 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:12:30 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKCUa30416 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:12:30 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKCSt10493 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:12:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113151125.00a0b780@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:12:06 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113140747.00a96a60@mail.attbi.com> References: <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092148.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ooooo. I'm in love !! >Sounds like a name I'd hear at the dyke bar on Thursday night (that's if I >actually went to the dyke bar on Thursday nights). It would be the name of >a chick dressed in a gas station attendant shirt and she'd most likely have >shaved her head. --Lisa > >> >> > Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I wish that >> > would have been my name. >> > --bonniev > > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6t027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00467CF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:21:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3701465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:21:53 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ADfL1G5rJWT8GmoAHgwehbd9B0m35xwG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKBra30114 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:11:53 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF2D2FFC8 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DA5657C48; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113150501.00a0b560@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 13, 2002 3: 6:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113201150.DA5657C48@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >But wicker molds, > > Oh, yuck. There's another reason I'm glad to have moved out of the > South. I now have a wicker hamper and do not fear mold. Good for you! > >and I'd have my homeowner's insurance canceled! > >Karen > > Huh? You have an anti-mold clause? Mold is a HUGE problem in Texas. At least one insurance company has stopped writing homeowner's insurance because of mold claims. I've noticed that in the past year that food molds much more quickly than I would have expected--the spores are just in the air. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6v027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00468005@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:43:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:43:56 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKhta04185 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:43:56 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:43:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2BA28.45CDDDEB@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:46:32 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: legal question References: <3DD26DEA.14919.BEF0082@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > My guess: > Fred and Barney would have to die at precisely the same time. If Fred outlived > Barney for even a moment, then the property would be Fred's and subject to the > terms of his will. > Yes. But I think that Evelyn means that time of death couldn't be determined. Like if they died in a fire or crash within seconds of each other. Who would know which was first? alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6u027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004681AC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:56:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706726 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:56:38 -0500 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKuca07071 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:56:38 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.1c8.188db04 (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1c8.188db04.2b04167e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:56:30 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] legal question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 2:44:22 PM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << Yes. But I think that Evelyn means that time of death couldn't be determined. Like if they died in a fire or crash within seconds of each other. Who would know which was first? >> Yes. My instructor said that was a good question and he didn't know the answer. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:08:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6f027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00465932@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:06:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3673836 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:06:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:zHSBr4T9Mwp1L4jism6PByrDSEADZCBZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADG66L02839 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:06:06 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E072FE6F for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 2F61A2B891; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1122B88E for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:06:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:06:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD2387A.FB21D144@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Leave them in the closet. I find this an interesting question in that I > can't imagine putting them somewhere else -- like where would I put them > and why would I want to put them there instead of leaving them in the > closet? If you had a Laundry Room, that would be the place. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6x027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468261@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:01:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3707331 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:01:36 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL1Ya08167 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:01:34 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.137.1758583a (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:01:08 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <137.1758583a.2b041794@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:01:08 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] legal question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 2:42:49 PM Central Standard Time, alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: << I still say that it would be whoever they specify in their will(s). >> But whose will takes precedence? Who owns the property if they both die at the same time? The only will that counts is the one of the person who dies last. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6v027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004682E9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:06:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3707770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:06:04 -0500 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL64a09028 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:06:04 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.16e.170536eb (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:05:56 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <16e.170536eb.2b0418b2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:05:54 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] legal question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 2:32:50 PM Central Standard Time, dmarkld@NCFCOMM.COM writes: << Depends upon the legal set-up. Google for Joint ownership vs Tenants in Common, and you'll get a real education. >> I'll have to do that Friday afternoon when I get off work. Tonight I have to go to work, and tomorrow is my long day (7 to 3:30 at Reasor's and 6 to 9:30 at Sears). Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6h027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046613C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:53:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3680551 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:53:58 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGrwV16071 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:53:58 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:53:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD28444.5F55BA80@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:56:36 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021113163603.780FC7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > >From the WSJ online: > "Losses widened on Wall Street after Federal Reserve Chairman Alan > Greenspan said falling stock prices and worries about a war with Iraq > were dimming growth prospects for the economy." > > I just hope Georgie Porgie listens. He will not listen. However, the market turned around at about 11 this morning when Iraq accepted the inspectors. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6g027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00465E3A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:38:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3676296 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:38:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3Y8Bi73rOxvRI3m8fWfhzaJGAwFE0uIw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGROV07416 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:27:24 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3541B2FD15 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id EBEDE7C16; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:27:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113081752.A8735@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 13, 2002 8:17:52 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:27:23 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie said: > When I was a kid, we'd leave them in the closet, and then maybe > we'd fetch them and put them in the laundry basket. So sometimes > when everything was all hung there'd be left over hangers in the > basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there > for the next round. I'd do this, except I put dirty clothes in the basket (and do laundry when it's full. > Why oh why do you want to know this (well, not *all* this)? Because leaving the hangers in the closet doesn't work for me, and I've been putting hangers on the loveseat in the living room, which doesn't seem too hospitable. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6h027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004661D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:57:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3681066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:57:56 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGvtV17243 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:57:56 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021113165749.NDPB6356.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:57:49 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113085438.035f2460@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:57:40 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <20021113163603.780FC7C41@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >I just hope Georgie Porgie listens. Uh, no. He doesn't listen. Besides, the Administration has its heart set on this one, citizens, Constitution, UN, world be damned. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x70027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00468472@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:18:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3708763 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:18:24 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLINa11073 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:18:23 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29947 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 16:18:21 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 16:17:54 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:17:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either Message-ID: <3DD27B2A.25465.C22C3A2@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000601c28b5a$21b93aa0$930332d1@0018079268> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > > Yup. I was surprised that so little notice was taken of it. > > It will be back to the coat hangers (since that is the topic du jour). > > > > alyce > > Does that make abortion punishable on > a murder charge? > > - D. M. That's the goal. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6w027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004684E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:22:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3709117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:22:01 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLM0a11758 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:22:00 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA07696 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:22:00 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 3595938699; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:22:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:22:00 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech Message-ID: <20021113212200.GA28306@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> <3DD2AF43.DD16651A@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD2AF43.DD16651A@valstar.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:00:03PM -0500, alyce cresap wrote: > lisa alfieri wrote: > > > > > Have we have a recent war that's lasted long enough to disprove this? > > > > I think the general public still believe it. Mainstream media mentions it > > so often I see no reason for people not to think it's true. > > Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm did not improve the economy. WW II did. > The circumstances were entirely different. This one won't help the > economy--it will put us deeper into a deficit. It is not clear to me why > the Republicans have no problem with deficit spending anymore, when they > used to say how bad the Democrats were for doing it. And I don't > understand why the Democrats did not capitalize on this. The answer to this could be made as patronizing as needed ... basically it was peacetime then and it is wartime now. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x71027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004686ED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:38:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3710417 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:38:25 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLcPa14413 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:38:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gADLcNB20472 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001001c28b5d$40aa09a0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:40:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 02:44 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >> A new one just has opened in Rhinebeck that is said to be as big > >>as a city block. I can't imagine. That would have to have enough food in > >>it to feed all of the county and beyond. --alyce > > > >Speaking of Rhinebeck, Clyde loves the apron I bought him on sale at the > >book store there in March. Remember Betty? It's his favorite. So > >comfortable that sometimes he forgets to take it off after dinner. > > I remember you buying an apron but I forgot what it looks like. Is that > the only thing he wears? > Betty Please describe the comfortable apron. I'm thinking of making some. - D. M. > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6j027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00466773@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3684125 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:58KT7Gjju8BSaKSpzh+U+I1coM6smNiS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHMcV23798 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:22:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FA82FE0E for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 177DB7C42; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 12: 5:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:22:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113172238.177DB7C42@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > I'm trying to understand (if understanding is even an option) why the Iraqi Parliament > rejected the UN resolution and then the announcement today. It's not like > Parliament would be filled with independent thinkers. Was Saddam Hussein trying > to demonstrate that he was complying in spite of the wishes of "the people" ? Will > the US now have to ratchet up the demands in order to its causus belli ? I hate > these games. I also wonder why they are accepting early. And it's 'casus belli', 'occasion of war'. It's related to case, not cause, which would be causa. [I was sure it was casus belli, but I didn't think about the relationship between case and cause until just now.] Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6i027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046669F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:27:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3684850 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:27:47 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHRkV24975 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:27:46 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gADITd901339 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:29:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:29:38 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113192938.A1310@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113081752.A8735@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:27:23AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:27:23AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: = stevie said: = > When I was a kid, we'd leave them in the closet, and then maybe = > we'd fetch them and put them in the laundry basket. So sometimes = > when everything was all hung there'd be left over hangers in the = > basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there = > for the next round. = = I'd do this, except I put dirty clothes in the basket (and do laundry = when it's full. I think we frequently put dirty laundry on top of the hangers. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6x027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004688DC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:54:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712040 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:54:53 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLsqa17669 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:54:52 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5JBFH03.DE0 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD2CB43.53455666@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:59:31 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > Looked this up in answer to a question on another list about whether any > insurance programs have defined an embryo/fetus as a person. The answer is > yes, the US government, as represented by Tommy Thompson, just did so. I don't know about other states but here if you shoot a pregnant woman in the womb and kill the unborn child you're charged with first-degree murder. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6j027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046672B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:31:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685419 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:30:34 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHUYV25651 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:30:34 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA26963 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:30:33 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 8DB4E38699; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:30:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:30:33 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: great-aunt again Message-ID: <20021113173033.GA2201@pobox.com> References: <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> <3DD22A4C.15997.7A6004@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD22A4C.15997.7A6004@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:32:45AM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > I'm trying to learn to be meaner. > > grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > > BrP That was like pretty convincing. I will not be flaming you from now on. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x70027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468DD0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:34:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:34:53 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMYrB24114 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:34:53 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust185.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.187]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:34:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2D410.523D1217@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:37:04 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quest for pounds References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113153421.00a00520@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113155148.00a18410@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Too bad. My Wisconsin friend stays to chat. I think that's nicer. Perhaps it is good for people who have no other outside contact that your friend talks with them. For me it would be time out of my busy day. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6x027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468A74@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:05:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3713905 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:05:05 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADM54B19625 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:05:04 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5JBWI03.CFQ for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:02:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD2CDAD.47F1571E@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:09:49 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Fwd: No Child Left Behind Act References: <3DD2ACCB.F6CD3804@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Don't worry, alyce. This will all be explained by the instructors at the re-education camp. The black helicopter will stop by for you on Monday. I mean, crimeny. They were doing this back when I graduated from high school and last I'd heard they'd never stopped. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6k027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00466B29@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:59:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688771 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:59:51 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHxo632347 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:59:50 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA12595 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:59:50 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id DB11338699; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:59:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:59:49 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech Message-ID: <20021113175949.GA5979@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113085438.035f2460@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:40:53AM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > Besides, with the Supremes picked by Republicans, Republicans in control > of the House and Senate, and Republicans owning the companies making the > new voting machines, do you *really* think President "as adjudicated, not > elected" Bush will have trouble winning the election? You can't achieve an "ambiguous first count" with any of this. If a whole election happens to hang on a court decision, maybe all these are advantages. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6k027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00466C2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:07:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:07:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:cWUpsH9zfvUqHg5S/7ycJkjQQDvHDVdB@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHvt632012 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:57:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24F22FE34 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 764867C16; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:57:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113100353.00a75090@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Nov 13, 2002 10: 4:28 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:57:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113175754.764867C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At last a voice of reason but who gives a flying fuck about hangers. Me. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x73027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00468F87@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:53:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:53:06 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMr1B26553 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:53:01 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gADMqob29796 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:52:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:52:50 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113170339.00af6da8@mail.attbi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, lisa alfieri wrote: (text slipped at Reading) > We were going through a tough time then as well. I don't remember being > quite as bad as it is now but, that's my own personal memory and not based > on any facts I've looked up. With current unemployment rates lower than what many economists used to think of as the non-inflation-accelerating rate of unemployment, and the labor force participation rates for women at historic highs? There are Detroiters with long memories, and Mahoning Valley residents with similarly long memories, and Texas oil patch residents with nearly as long memories, who would think of economic conditions today as good times. (clipped) > Outside of this group the McVersion of current events is being fed to the > public. A lot of parallels are being drawn between today's stock market and > the depression era stock market. And a lot of people still hang on to the > idea that war will re-ignite the economy. The parallel is wrong. Anybody remember where the Dow was when Alan Greenspan made his "irrational exuberance" speech? For the record, it was a little lower than it currently is. Although war will divert resources from other uses, which is not the same thing as re-igniting the economy, its successful completion will reduce the uncertainty about Islamo-fascists with their delightful tendency to kill themselves and take others with them. > > This one won't help the economy--it will put us deeper into a deficit. > > It is not clear to me why the Republicans have no problem with deficit > > spending anymore, when they used to say how bad the Democrats were for > > doing it. And I don't understand why the Democrats did not capitalize on this. > > The reason it wasn't brought up is because I think the Democratic Party was > a complete and total mess this time around. They had absolutely no > organization or direction. I have no idea what platform they were running > on (partially because I like in MA and John Kerry ran un-opposed). I still > can't tell you, even after their defeat, what they were trying to accomplish. As far as the Donks, they don't know either. As far as the deficits: borrowing to provide for future production, which is what prosecuting a war is, is different from borrowing to provide for current consumption, which is what the Donks were doing. There is much to criticize the Pachs for, but at least their vision is clear: beat the Islamofascists and let people keep more of the fruits of their efforts. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x71027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046919F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:10:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:10:20 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ndaVAysiEVvowXdpZ+JgndWGEX7tzrR2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN0KB27648 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:00:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2052FDFD for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6DB5F7C22; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:00:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113143007.00a6eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Nov 13, 2002 2:31:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:00:17 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113230017.6DB5F7C22@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > Can you smell the mold and mildew a lot in different places? Sometimes. > Not your > place but other homes or stores? We had it growing one year and had to > attack with clorox. What a pain. I currently have my eye on a spot in the master bath. Unfortunately, there's a rug in there, the same carpeting that I have throughout the house, and there's a spot where water from the bath splashes when I get too involved in my whalish scenarios. But perhaps that's TMI...:) Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x74027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004691AD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718571 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ZQTkrNv9enzpVthkk4yCx4Svd3hS39JW@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN16B27827 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:01:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416A92FDFD for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C2F4F7C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:01:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Netscape quirk In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113164954.00ab19c0@mail.attbi.com> from lisa alfieri at "Nov 13, 2002 4:50:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:01:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113230105.C2F4F7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri said: > At 11:35 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > >alyce cresap said: > > > Suddenly I am unable to delete messages with the Delete at the top of > > > the screen, and only can do it with the delete key on the keyboard. This > > > is totally silly and awkward for me. I have rebooted. It began when I > > > tried to delete a message from Doris ("Blech"), which hung everything up > > > and I had to controlaltdelete. Then her message kept hanging there and I > > > couldn't delete anything following it either (with the screen delete). > > > So, finally, I read all the messages and then deleted en masse with the > > > keyboard delete. But what could be causing that, does anyone know? > > > >It's a Sign From God that you need to upgrade. > > > >Karen > > > says the woman who balks at html laden messages. When the archive starts interpreting HTML mail, so will I... Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6m027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004670A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:42:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:42:04 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIfu609267 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:56 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02538 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:41:54 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:41:26 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Message-ID: <3DD2567C.9876.B937D30@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021113182848.BB26A7C16@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD251D7.5138.B81579A@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 1:21:28 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Paul R. Barfoot said: > > Thank you. > > Thank *you*. I had thought till now that it was 'cause of war'. The > distinction is a nice one. > > Karen NO, thank **you**! oops, I mean grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x72027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004692DD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:24:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3719818 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:24:43 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Bm58jigCiTTiiqgoDO+ML9T1btImHCEt@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNEgB30054 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:14:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E8830122 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B56247C12; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:14:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD2D750.C0879313@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 13, 2002 4:50:56 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:14:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113231441.B56247C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I'm finding this very confusing. I understand now (from what Steph > wrote) how one might put empty hangers in places other than closets, but > what I'm confused about is your clothes-storage system. Do you move > clothes around from one closet or rod to another wantonly? I change > them at season changes, which sometimes means changing them gradually > when the weather is -- having a few coolish and a few > warmish things in the same closet. But once the season is established, > I keep the same things in the same closet -- like if I wash a blouse > that lives on Rod X, the hanger stays on Rod X, where it is ready to > receive the clean blouse when the blouse is ready to return to the > closet. Thank you for your response. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x73027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046935A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720879 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:31 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTUB32401 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:31 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTSt25701 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:28 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113182538.00b35d18@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:26:59 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <001001c28b5d$40aa09a0$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:46 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, bonnie wrote: >Mostly it is the material that it is made out of which makes it >comfortable. It is 100% cotton, made in India. It's a green and beige >check which goes nicely with Clyde's green granite kitchen. It has a >pocket and a loop on it. Clyde pins a dish towel through the loop which >gives him a convenient place to wipe his hands and keep the apron from >getting too dirty. It washes up nicely without shrinkage or need for >ironing. It stays soft. In fact, it has two pockets. The towel loop is about at the level of the top of the right-side pocket. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6n027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046767F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:30:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3697410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:30:30 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJUUF21120 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:30:30 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2A8F1.8C2BF28E@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:33:05 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: Netscape quirk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Suddenly I am unable to delete messages with the Delete at the top of the screen, and only can do it with the delete key on the keyboard. This is totally silly and awkward for me. I have rebooted. It began when I tried to delete a message from Doris ("Blech"), which hung everything up and I had to controlaltdelete. Then her message kept hanging there and I couldn't delete anything following it either (with the screen delete). So, finally, I read all the messages and then deleted en masse with the keyboard delete. But what could be causing that, does anyone know? -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6n027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046725B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:55:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:55:55 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIts612890 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:55:54 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gADJvlE01698 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:57:47 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:57:47 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113205747.B1682@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113195019.A1509@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113175219.A80697C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021113175219.A80697C0E@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:52:19AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = = I've never understood the whole hamper thing. Don't clothes get smelly = when they are closed up? = = Karen My hamper has ventilation. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6p027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004678B4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699353 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:50 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h005.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADJlna25969 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:50 -0500 Received: (cpmta 16396 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:47:49 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.120) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:47:49 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 19:47:49 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113141757.00af7708@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:21:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> References: <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >They do have the carts at several stores in this area, just not the one >where I can go most easily. alyce When my step father was sick he used the scooters at the grocery store. He preferred Stop & Shop over Shaw's. Stop & Shop had you sign up for a key which you could take home with you. That way when you arrived at the store you just hopped on an available one. At Shaw's you had to ask for the keys. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6q027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00467942@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:50 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJqoa26749 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:50 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:52:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2AE35.40F0AAE3@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:55:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Netscape quirk References: <3DD2A8F1.8C2BF28E@valstar.net> <000a01c28b4d$3ffa34e0$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Like maybe I know the Republican > secret for goofing up selections made > by Democrats? Yes. That was the related message. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6t027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00467FB4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:42:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705021 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:42:18 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKgHa03724 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:42:18 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:42:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2B9CC.67E553DE@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:45:00 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: legal question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > In a message dated 11/13/2002 1:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, > alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: > > << > These people should make a will so it goes to whomever they choose. > > >> > > No, a will does no good except for the last person left. Let's say that > Fred and Barney (to use two of my instructor's favorite people) have > a joint tenancy in a farm, and Fred dies. Even if Fred leaves his share > to Wilma, she does not get it; Barney gets it all. So, if both Fred and > Barney die at the same time, who gets the property? > I still say that it would be whoever they specify in their will(s). I understand that the co-tenant gets both halves if one dies. But I don't understand how that negates the validity of a will if they both die. Bethany knows. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:08:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6f027096 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004659A2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:09:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:09:18 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:zmtY9HX+TbFAezUFsxsIa1XTj1E6xGZy@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADG9IL03285 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:09:18 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE0D2FDCF for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id F2DD62B885; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:09:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E092B882 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:09:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:09:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Beginning of Today In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113091042.009f9ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Okay, I usually try to steer clear of these cookie fights, but I have to > >ask: "literay character"? Are you saying that Christ, son of Joseph of > >Nazareth, was a fictional characterization rather than a living person? > > There is evidence to the contrary from uninvolved persons, you know. > >JMW > > Thanks, JMW. I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to get > involved. Now we can also test if Natalie will keep to the turnover of > her new leaf and not answer us this morning. Odds? Jesus has become a fictional character. So has Abraham Lincoln, to a lesser extent. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6i027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00466762@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:11 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHWBV26086 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:11 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id LAA27806 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:32:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B194C38699; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:32:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:32:10 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113173210.GB2201@pobox.com> References: <3DD2387A.FB21D144@maynor.net> <20021113162928.BE9E77C31@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021113162928.BE9E77C31@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:29:28AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > Natalie Maynor said: > > Leave them in the closet. I find this an interesting question in that I > > can't imagine putting them somewhere else -- like where would I put them > > and why would I want to put them there instead of leaving them in the > > closet? > > One reason I don't leave them in the closet is because I use plastic > hangers--they take up room whether they have clothes on them or not. > And I don't have extra space on most of the rods I use. Why do you have more clothes than space for plastic hangers on rods? Give them away or get a bigger closet. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6j027094 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004668CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:42:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:42:31 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:swklOBxQVauRRrQAiWpAztxlikl/WqJn@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHWVV26241 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:32:31 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838D82FD82 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 49F157C41; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:32:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <20021113173033.GA2201@pobox.com> from Tushar Samant at "Nov 13, 2002 11:30:33 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:32:30 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113173230.49F157C41@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant said: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 10:32:45AM -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > > I'm trying to learn to be meaner. > > > > grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > > > > > BrP > > That was like pretty convincing. I will not be flaming you from > now on. It's like a pussycat growling.:) Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x71027095 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469012@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:58:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718075 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:58:22 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMwMB27346 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:58:22 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5JEDB01.SD4 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:55:59 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD2DA2B.9FF32940@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:07 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > (text slipped at Reading) God, I've missed this guy. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x74027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004693E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:35:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3721143 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:35:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNZHB00588 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:35:17 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNZEt27270 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113183206.00b78620@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:35:15 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD2DFBF.27570990@maynor.net> References: <20021113170933.DFEC37C31@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:26 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >But many were saying that the economy would have an effect on midterm >elections also. Yet Dubya managed to whip the voters into a >defend-the-homeland frenzy that overrode thoughts on the economy. In about twenty years, when Alan is sitting there fondling his toy pistol (the only one the administration will allow him to have) and JMW's studies of the constitution are of academic interest only, historians will probably be referring to 9/11 as the American equivalent of the Reichstag fire. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6r027097 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004678B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699340 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:47 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h005.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.120]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADJlka25937 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:47:46 -0500 Received: (cpmta 16357 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:47:45 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.120) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:47:45 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 19:47:45 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113140747.00a96a60@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:09:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092148.00a04b30@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:28 AM 11/13/2002 -0500, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: >Joey's a name for a baby kangaroo not a baby human > >BrP Sounds like a name I'd hear at the dyke bar on Thursday night (that's if I actually went to the dyke bar on Thursday nights). It would be the name of a chick dressed in a gas station attendant shirt and she'd most likely have shaved her head. > > > > Congrats all around. Nice name. I hope they call her Joey. I wish that > > would have been my name. > > > > > > --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:09:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE08x6l027093 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:09:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00466E63@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691579 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:06 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIN6605110 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:06 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21975 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:23:05 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:22:56 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:22:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Message-ID: <3DD2522F.28496.B82ACB8@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021113172959.87A997C40@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 12: 5:28 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I had not thought of this possibility - it sounds likely to me. BrP > Hussein also could be leaving himself an excuse to withdraw support > for the UN inspectors sometime in the future." > > The last sounds like what he's done before. > > Karen > "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that > some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, > then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. > There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6f027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04107462@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:39:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3676501 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:39:30 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Xk83igct5iTQpY9Sl61EAPBOSe2lGPIT@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGTTV07965 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:29:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26862FD15 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id BE9E77C31; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:29:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD2387A.FB21D144@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 13, 2002 5:33:14 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:29:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113162928.BE9E77C31@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Leave them in the closet. I find this an interesting question in that I > can't imagine putting them somewhere else -- like where would I put them > and why would I want to put them there instead of leaving them in the > closet? One reason I don't leave them in the closet is because I use plastic hangers--they take up room whether they have clothes on them or not. And I don't have extra space on most of the rods I use. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6f027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041076CD@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:50:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3678925 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:50:40 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ucCs/WeTtR0VdC4J3agpGuzV+tZ3B+sE@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGeeV12782 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:40:40 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99ECD2FE76 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 66B9C7C40; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:40:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 13, 2002 11:32:53 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 08:40:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113164039.66B9C7C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Here, too, I'm pretty sure. > > They do have the carts at several stores in this area, just not the one > where I can go most easily. Although I complained about the long walk, > my store is probably 1/3 the size of the larger supermarkets around > here. A new one just has opened in Rhinebeck that is said to be as big > as a city block. I can't imagine. That would have to have enough food in > it to feed all of the county and beyond. That's about the size of some of the Super Walmarts I've seen. I'm not sure exactly what they are doing to my closest Walmart here--I know that it's going to be a Super Walmart, but I'm not sure if they are building a new building or just making an addition. Either way, it's going to be at least as big as a city block. Come to think of it, the downtown Whole Foods (flagship store) take up a whole block. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6f027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410773F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:53:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3679272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:53:45 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADGhjV13525 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:43:45 -0500 Received: from moe.cas.utk.edu (moe.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.58]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gADGhiTC005298 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:43:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:43:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@moe.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I periodically donate hangers to my dry cleaning establishment. They even give me special little cardboard containers to put them in. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6f027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04107F65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:40:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685117 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:40:07 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Koh1amguPqF+ueVW+c7bmR9GyeIUYepL@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHU0V25495 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:30:00 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28E72FE6D for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 87A997C40; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 12: 5:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:29:59 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113172959.87A997C40@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > I'm trying to understand (if understanding is even an option) why the Iraqi Parliament > rejected the UN resolution and then the announcement today. It's not like > Parliament would be filled with independent thinkers. Was Saddam Hussein trying > to demonstrate that he was complying in spite of the wishes of "the > people" ? Newsday http://tinyurl.com/2nyq says "In a sign that Hussein would ultimately acquiesce, his eldest son, Uday, urged parliament to approve the resolution and demand that Arab experts be added to the inspection teams.... Hussein often refers issues to parliament so he can claim that his decisions are based on the will of the Iraqi people. In this case, analysts say, Hussein could be trying to signal that the resolution is an affront to Iraqi dignity, and that he would accept it with great reluctance, even going against the wishes of his people. Hussein also could be leaving himself an excuse to withdraw support for the UN inspectors sometime in the future." The last sounds like what he's done before. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6g027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108036@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:48:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3687588 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:48:27 -0500 Received: from multinix.com (a194-109-239-100.adsl.xs4all.nl [194.109.239.100]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHmQV30138 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:48:27 -0500 Received: (from stevie@localhost) by multinix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id gADIoJO01523 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:50:19 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:50:19 +0100 From: stevie To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey Message-ID: <20021113195019.A1509@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113192938.A1310@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113173115.41F0F7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20021113173115.41F0F7C11@yellow.rahul.net>; from karen@WORDWRITE.COM on Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 09:31:15AM -0800 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU = > = > basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there = > = > for the next round. = > = = > = I'd do this, except I put dirty clothes in the basket (and do laundry = > = when it's full. = > = > I think we frequently put dirty laundry on top of the hangers. = = Well, that doesn't make it right! = What's your problem? If you didn't need them right away, and then they were under the dirty laundry, they'd be right there to hang it up after it had been washed. I never said it was right, it was just what got done. geez. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6g027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108184@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:55:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3687281 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:55:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:PRQ5CHiZU6Ac34Q98edBrVldNzbYTth8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHjDV29432 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:45:13 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292F52FE29 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CAFF67C24; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:45:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> from Peter Kaminski at "Nov 13, 2002 9:40:53 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:45:12 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113174512.CAFF67C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski said: > Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along I thought that myth had been busted? > with of course oil company profits, presumably the leading economic > indicator for the Administration). Oh, blech, indeed.:( > Besides, with the Supremes picked by Republicans, Republicans in control of > the House and Senate, and Republicans owning the companies making the new > voting machines, do you *really* think President "as adjudicated, not > elected" Bush will have trouble winning the election? I believe that he'll have trouble winning the popular vote. For what that's worth. Sigh. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6g027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108243@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:02:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:02:24 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YNCe8wVob3+2uAfa7HjflDbDjJ9GyasP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHqO630924 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:52:24 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D209A2FE11 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A80697C0E; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:52:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113195019.A1509@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 13, 2002 7:50:19 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:52:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113175219.A80697C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie said: > = > = > basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there > = > = > for the next round. > = > = > = > = I'd do this, except I put dirty clothes in the basket (and do laundry > = > = when it's full. > = > > = > I think we frequently put dirty laundry on top of the hangers. > = > = Well, that doesn't make it right! > = > > What's your problem? If you didn't need them right away, and > then they were under the dirty laundry, they'd be right there to > hang it up after it had been washed. I never said it was right, > it was just what got done. geez. I was just teasing. For one thing, the hangers don't fit flat, so I wouldn't get a whole load of clothes into the basket, which sort of defeats the purpose. I've never understood the whole hamper thing. Don't clothes get smelly when they are closed up? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6g027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041085DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:27:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3691940 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:27:52 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIRq606028 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:27:52 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24899 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:27:52 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 13 Nov 02 13:27:09 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:27:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: great-aunt again Message-ID: <3DD25326.18069.B86728F@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021113173033.GA2201@pobox.com> References: <3DD22A4C.15997.7A6004@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I'm trying to learn to be meaner. > > > > grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr > > > > > > BrP > > That was like pretty convincing. I will not be flaming you from > now on. aw go ahead. Some of my best friends are flamers. BrP From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6h027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410877D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3693197 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:49 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIfn609222 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:49 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust178.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.180]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:41:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD29D86.8FD3A389@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:44:22 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113085438.035f2460@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <001401c28b3c$c46be860$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Er, ah, you think, Pete, that Republican owned > companies will skew the machines at the factory? I won't say that, but I will point out that there were many reports last week of strange results, such as a person in Florida trying three times to vote Democratic, but each time the vote reverted to Republican before she pushed the final button. Stuff like that. Maybe pure coincidence. Maybe the same thing happened in reverse and I just didn't hear of it? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6h027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108A08@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:01:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3694166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:00:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OR3CT0003MMbTUcoQwQouyEuwU+dH8ai@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADIox611827 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:50:59 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F392FF94 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8EE5B7C10; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:50:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD2580D.32023.B999982@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 1:47:58 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:50:58 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113185058.8EE5B7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > I toss my laundry directly into the washing machine (well, it lives > on the floor overnight). When it's full, I toss in soap and hit > "wash." I usually get dressed out of the dryer. Who needs hangers? I would worry about mold/mildew. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6h027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108A11@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:01:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3695066 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:01:05 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJ0u613692 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:00:56 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gADJ0t49512521 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from isc.upenn.edu (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CA2A5AD for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:00:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3DD2A168.2020009@isc.upenn.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:00:56 -0500 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113045113.C19A97C43@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > What do you do with empty hangers, ones that you'll need for clean > clothes when you do laundry? Do you leave them in the closet or put > them somewhere? If you put them somewhere, where do you put them? > > Karen We have a hanging rack which we move all the free hangers. It makes it easy to find a hanger. alec ------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6i027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108FCF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699107 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:54 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJhra25334 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:53 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gADJhmB20416 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:43:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000a01c28b4d$3ffa34e0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD2A8F1.8C2BF28E@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Netscape quirk Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:45:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Suddenly I am unable to delete messages with the Delete at the top of > the screen, and only can do it with the delete key on the keyboard. This > is totally silly and awkward for me. I have rebooted. It began when I > tried to delete a message from Doris ("Blech"), which hung everything up > and I had to controlaltdelete. Then her message kept hanging there and I > couldn't delete anything following it either (with the screen delete). > So, finally, I read all the messages and then deleted en masse with the > keyboard delete. But what could be causing that, does anyone know? > -- > alyce Like maybe I know the Republican secret for goofing up selections made by Democrats? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6i027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109006@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699271 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:53 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJkqa25748 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:52 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:46:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2ACCB.F6CD3804@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:49:31 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: [Fwd: No Child Left Behind Act Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > This is probably garbled because of a photo and html, but if you have > the patience, it is fairly interesting. We were speaking of the draft > the other day, but this way it won't be needed. 8={ It's from Mother Jones. > > No Child Unrecruited > Should the military be given the names of every high school > student in America? > > By David Goodman > November/December 2002 Issue > High School cadets in Mariette, Georgia > > Sharon Shea-Keneally, principal of Mount Anthony Union High > School > = > in Bennington, Vermont, was shocked when she received a letter in May > = > from military recruiters demanding a list of all her students, > including > = > names, addresses, and phone numbers. The school invites recruiters to > = > participate in career days and job fairs, but like most school = > districts, it keeps student information strictly confidential. "We > don't > = > give out a list of names of our kids to anybody," says Shea-Keneally, > = > "not to colleges, churches, employers -- nobody."=20 > =20 > =20 > > =20 > =20 > =20 > > E-mail article > Print article=20 > > =B7 Recruiting the Class of 2005 > > > > =B7 No Child Left Behind Act > =B7 Joint Letter from Secretary of Education Ron Paige and > = > Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld=20 > > > > =B7 E-mail the editor > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > > But when Shea-Keneally insisted on an explanation, she was in > for > = > an even bigger surprise: The recruiters cited the No Child Left Behind > = > Act, President Bush's sweeping new education law passed earlier this = > > year. There, buried deep within the law's 670 pages, is a provision = > requiring public secondary schools to provide military recruiters not > = > only with access to facilities, but also with contact information for > = > every student -- or face a cutoff of all federal aid.=20 > > "I was very surprised the requirement was attached to an > education > = > law," says Shea-Keneally. "I did not see the link."=20 > > The military complained this year that up to 15 percent of the = > > nation's high schools are "problem schools" for recruiters. In 1999, > the > = > Pentagon says, recruiters were denied access to 19,228 schools. Rep. = > > David Vitter, a Republican from Louisiana who sponsored the new = > recruitment requirement, says such schools "demonstrated an = > anti-military attitude that I thought was offensive."=20 > > To many educators, however, requiring the release of personal = > information intrudes on the rights of students. "We feel it is a clear > = > departure from the letter and the spirit of the current student > privacy > = > laws," says Bruce Hunter, chief lobbyist for the American Association > of > = > School Administrators. Until now, schools could share student = > information only with other educational institutions. "Now other > people > = > will want our lists," says Hunter. "It's a slippery slope. I don't > want > = > student directories sent to Verizon either, just because they claim > that > = > all kids need a cell phone to be safe."=20 > > The new law does give students the right to withhold their = > records. But school officials are given wide leeway in how to > implement > = > the law, and some are simply handing over student directories to = > recruiters without informing anyone -- leaving students without any > say > = > in the matter.=20 > > "I think the privacy implications of this law are profound," > says > = > Jill Wynns, president of the San Francisco Board of Education. "For > the > = > federal government to ignore or discount the concerns of the privacy = > > rights of millions of high school students is not a good thing, and > it's > = > something we should be concerned about."=20 > > Educators point out that the armed services have exceeded their > = > recruitment goals for the past two years in a row, even without access > = > to every school. The new law, they say, undercuts the authority of > some > = > local school districts, including San Francisco and Portland, Oregon, > = > that have barred recruiters from schools on the grounds that the = > military discriminates against gays and lesbians. Officials in both = > cities now say they will grant recruiters access to their schools and > to > = > student information -- but they also plan to inform students of their > = > right to withhold their records.=20 > > Some students are already choosing that option. According to = > Principal Shea-Keneally, 200 students at her school -- one-sixth of > the > = > student body -- have asked that their records be withheld.=20 > > Recruiters are up-front about their plans to use school lists to > = > aggressively pursue students through mailings, phone calls, and > personal > = > visits -- even if parents object. "The only thing that will get us to > = > stop contacting the family is if they call their congressman," says = > Major Johannes Paraan, head U.S. Army recruiter for Vermont and = > northeastern New York. "Or maybe if the kid died, we'll take them off > = > our list." What do you think?=20 > =20 > > > ------=_NextPart_001_00CD_01C28AF6.9357ADE0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > No = Child Unrecruited=20 > > Should the military be = given=20 the names of every high school > student in America?=20 > > By David=20 Goodman > > High=20 School cadets in Mariette, Georgia=20 > > > > > Sharon Shea-Keneally, principal of Mount Anthony Union High = School > in=20 Bennington, Vermont, was shocked when she received a letter in > May = from=20 military recruiters demanding a list of all her > students, = including names,=20 addresses, and phone numbers. The > school invites recruiters to = participate=20 in career days and job > fairs, but like most school districts, it = keeps=20 student > information strictly confidential. "We don't give out a = list of=20 > names of our kids to anybody," says Shea-Keneally, "not to = > colleges,=20 churches, employers -- nobody." > > [310b702.jpg] > > > > [310b721.jpg] > [310b726.jpg] > [310b72b.jpg]E-mail article > [310b730.jpg]Print article = > > [310b735.jpg] > =B7 Recruiting=20 the Class of 2005 > > [310b73c.jpg] > =B7 No Child Left Behind Act > =B7 Joint Letter from Secretary of Education Ron = Paige and=20 > Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld > > [310b743.jpg] > =B7 > [310b749.jpg]=20 > > > [310b74f.jpg] > > But when Shea-Keneally insisted on an explanation, she was in = for > an=20 even bigger surprise: The recruiters cited the No Child Left = > Behind Act,=20 President Bush's sweeping new education law passed > earlier this = year.=20 There, buried deep within the law's 670 pages, > is a provision = requiring=20 public secondary schools to provide > military recruiters not only = with=20 access to facilities, but also > with contact information for every = student=20 -- or face a cutoff of > all federal aid.=20 > > "I was very surprised the requirement was attached to an = > education=20 law," says Shea-Keneally. "I did not see the link."=20 > > The military complained this year that up to 15 percent of the = > nation's=20 high schools are "problem schools" for recruiters. In > 1999, the = Pentagon=20 says, recruiters were denied access to 19,228 > schools. Rep. David = Vitter,=20 a Republican from Louisiana who > sponsored the new recruitment = requirement,=20 says such schools > "demonstrated an anti-military attitude that I = thought=20 was > offensive."=20 > > To many educators, however, requiring the release of personal=20 > information intrudes on the rights of students. "We feel it is a = > clear=20 departure from the letter and the spirit of the current > student = privacy=20 laws," says Bruce Hunter, chief lobbyist for the > American = Association of=20 School Administrators. Until now, schools > could share student = information=20 only with other educational > institutions. "Now other people will = want our=20 lists," says > Hunter. "It's a slippery slope. I don't want student=20 directories > sent to Verizon either, just because they claim that = all kids=20 > need a cell phone to be safe."=20 > > The new law does give students the right to withhold their = records. > But=20 school officials are given wide leeway in how to implement the > = law, and=20 some are simply handing over student directories to > recruiters = without=20 informing anyone -- leaving students without > any say in the = matter.=20 > > "I think the privacy implications of this law are profound," = says > Jill=20 Wynns, president of the San Francisco Board of Education. "For > the = federal=20 government to ignore or discount the concerns of the > privacy = rights of=20 millions of high school students is not a good > thing, and it's = something=20 we should be concerned about."=20 > > Educators point out that the armed services have exceeded their = > recruitment goals for the past two years in a row, even without = > access to=20 every school. The new law, they say, undercuts the > authority of = some local=20 school districts, including San Francisco > and Portland, Oregon, = that have=20 barred recruiters from schools on > the grounds that the military=20 discriminates against gays and > lesbians. Officials in both cities = now say=20 they will grant > recruiters access to their schools and to student=20 information -- > but they also plan to inform students of their = right to=20 withhold > their records.=20 > > Some students are already choosing that option. According to = > Principal=20 Shea-Keneally, 200 students at her school -- one-sixth of > the = student body=20 -- have asked that their records be withheld.=20 > > Recruiters are up-front about their plans to use school lists = to=20 > aggressively pursue students through mailings, phone calls, and = > personal=20 visits -- even if parents object. "The only thing that > will get us = to stop=20 contacting the family is if they call their > congressman," says = Major=20 Johannes Paraan, head U.S. Army > recruiter for Vermont and = northeastern New=20 York. "Or maybe if the > kid died, we'll take them off our list." =[310b755.jpg]=20 =20 > > ------=_NextPart_001_00CD_01C28AF6.9357ADE0-- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6i027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109646@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3702959 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:4tYauV5n782Yg/JhftcLO8sDY3FxVbfJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKM8a32492 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:22:08 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A9B2FFD2 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:22:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B63867C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:22:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: from Evelyn Duncan at "Nov 13, 2002 3:17:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:22:07 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113202207.B63867C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Evelyn Duncan said: > In a message dated 11/13/2002 1:59:22 PM Central Standard Time, > alybooks@VALSTAR.NET writes: > > << > These people should make a will so it goes to whomever they choose. > > > >> > > No, a will does no good except for the last person left. Let's say that > Fred and Barney (to use two of my instructor's favorite people) have > a joint tenancy in a farm, and Fred dies. Even if Fred leaves his share > to Wilma, she does not get it; Barney gets it all. So, if both Fred and > Barney die at the same time, who gets the property? People seldom die 'at the same time'. If they do, then a bunch of lawyers make a bunch of money. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6i027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109653@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3703968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:35 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKWYa01896 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:34 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.170.17075238 (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:27 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <170.17075238.2b0410db@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:27 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] legal question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 2:21:54 PM Central Standard Time, prbarfoo@LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << Fred and Barney would have to die at precisely the same time. >> Yes, let's say that they were hit with a lightning bolt and died at exactly the same second. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6j027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041098C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705674 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:23 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKmMa04831 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:22 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKmLt18706 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:48:21 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113154630.00a11180@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:47:58 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <20021113202207.B63867C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >People seldom die 'at the same time'. If they do, then a bunch of >lawyers make a bunch of money. --Karen There is language in our will that defines what "at the same time" will mean. And it doesn't mean at the exact same moment. If we were hurt in the same car accident but died a few days apart, that would count as "at the same time." --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6j027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410994B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706068 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:49 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKoma05524 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:49 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKoit19368 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113155007.00a19060@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either In-Reply-To: <3DD2BB1D.A9D6BE8@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Yup. I was surprised that so little notice was taken of it. >It will be back to the coat hangers (since that is the topic du jour). >alyce Yup. And what a sad day that will be. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6j027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109914@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705899 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:00 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKo0a05186 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:50:00 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust206.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.208]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2BB8F.66480F65@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:52:31 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quest for pounds References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113153421.00a00520@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: Was the person who > brought your meal friendly? Will you do this seven days a week? She was fast. She just thrust the meal into my hand and ran off. Not unfriendly, but very hurried. I was told by the manager lady that they don't want to stay and chat. You get a hot meal Monday-Friday, and two frozen meals on Friday for the weekend. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6k027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109BC3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:07:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3707913 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:07:19 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL7Ja09351 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:07:19 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-204.panax.com [63.163.41.204]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL7It23133 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:07:18 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113160628.00a124e0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:06:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <20021113204934.91A277C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113154630.00a11180@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Kewl. What happens to your house if you die at the same time? >Karen It goes to our daughter. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6k027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109D1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:19:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3708052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:19:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:B0nDhrOVwLzGD6P3l22OVvy8KCjvZWMa@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL9Sa09687 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:09:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91982FE02 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AB7E37C11; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:09:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113160140.00b6cfa8@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 13, 2002 4: 3:54 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:09:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113210924.AB7E37C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 12:49 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > > >Kewl. What happens to your house if you die at the same time? > > Our wills now specify that all our assets, including the house, go to Lisa. My brain immediately thought of Lisa Alfieri first! But actually, I think this is very sweet, given all that you've been through. I keep meaning to tell you, the King Arthur woman gave the Hearth Kit oven inserts (http://www.hearthkit.com/) a very positive review. She said that she was hoping to review them negatively (who needs to spend more money?), but she couldn't. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6k027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109E27@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:29:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3708846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:29:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:B4Xnp/gC+AgX8Nq5xPP8VSexLCiIFQ6J@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLJ6a11211 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:19:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DDF300C4 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B01EB7C0E; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:19:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either In-Reply-To: <3DD27B2A.25465.C22C3A2@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 13, 2002 4:17:47 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113211905.B01EB7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > > > > > > Yup. I was surprised that so little notice was taken of it. > > > It will be back to the coat hangers (since that is the topic du jour). > > > > > > alyce > > > > Does that make abortion punishable on > > a murder charge? > > > > - D. M. > > That's the goal. But it hasn't happened yet. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6l027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109EBA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:34:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3709371 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:34:44 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLOha12333 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:24:43 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gADLOhsV012500 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:24:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134147.00a9a240@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:42:09 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: quest for pounds In-Reply-To: <3DD2AB43.74507080@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:42 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: >In light of my continuing quest for pounds, and the difficulty of >shopping, I signed up yesterday for Meals on Wheels. I have been fixing >dinner, drinking Ensure Plus, and eating chocolate, but I am still not >getting enough calories, and I know the meals are not all that >well-balanced either. And so, I decided to try this new plan. You don't >have to pay anything, but I am going to pay (and way more than their >too-low suggested rate). > >The first one came today. Not bad. A small portion of Salisbury steak >with gravy, half a baked potato, a good bit of spinach, a slice of rye >bread with a pat of butter, a little cup of canned peach slices, and a >half pint of skimmmed milk. I ate all of the meat, half of everything >else. Will try to eat the rest of the peaches tonight, because I have no >fruit in my diet ever. I know I should. >Now we will see if I have the capacity to eat my regular dinner tonight. >They say the meals on wheels thing is 1/3 of one's requirements. I can't >imagine eating three times that, but will try to do at least 2/3 or a >little more. > >Hey, Theo--have you called Meals on Wheels? Sounds great, Alyce! Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6l027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A5DF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:24:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3714780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:24:08 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADME8B21274 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:14:08 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gADME7sV012717; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:14:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113143007.00a6eaf0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:31:34 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113214738.8C69E7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113133909.00a63440@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:47 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >Betty Clark said: > > At 11:42 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >bonniev said: > > > > >When I do laundry, I usually need more > > > > >hangers than are available on the rod I'm going to put the clean > > > > >clothes on. > > > > > > > > I don't do that. I only need the hangers when I iron. > > > > > >I don't iron. > > > > > > > >What I have instead is cabinets, and > > > > >eyelevel cabinet space seemed too valuable to waste on hangers. Also, > > > > >hangers in cabinets is awkward. --Karen > > > > > > > > Attach a bar to the underside of the cabinets and hang the hangers > there. > > > > > >Gee, Bonnie, that never occurred to me! Not. > > > > Gee, Karen, you asked a question. A stupid question granted, but a > > question. Now you don't like the answers? > >The question I asked was "what do you do?" I didn't solicit >suggestions for what I should do--I'm not nearly that masochistic. > > > I really think you should not > > discuss hangers any further because you are so insensitive and > > disrespectful to people who were only trying to help. Throw the damn > > things out. > >And just let my clothes flop on the floor like a Muslim praying to Mecca? LOL. Can you smell the mold and mildew a lot in different places? Not your place but other homes or stores? We had it growing one year and had to attack with clorox. What a pain. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6l027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A789@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:37 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h004.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADMebB24906 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:37 -0500 Received: (cpmta 27292 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 14:40:36 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.119) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 14:40:36 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 22:40:36 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113165053.00ad0b08@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:54:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113194251.1935C7C22@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113143940.009f6ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > > Attach a bar to the underside of the cabinets and hang the hangers there. > >Gee, Bonnie, that never occurred to me! Not. > >Karen I don't understand why'you asked this hanger question so far you've either disagreed with everything people have said or you've mocked them for their ways. You're intelligent, you can figure this out yourself and if you can't at least be considerate of people's suggestions. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6m027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A8FA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:54:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717825 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:54:42 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMsgB26805 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:54:42 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.169]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113225624.DXRZ14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:56:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2D82C.C9EDAE9F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:54:36 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113162928.BE9E77C31@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > One reason I don't leave them in the closet is because I use plastic > hangers--they take up room whether they have clothes on them or not. > And I don't have extra space on most of the rods I use. I'm finding this more confusing by the minute. I also use plastic hangers for the most part, and I understand that they take up slightly more rod space than metal hangers do. But if the garment was hanging there on that hanger before being washed, then surely there's room for the hanger to stay there. Like how was the garment there if there was no room for a hanger? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6m027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A78B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716706 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:38 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h004.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADMecB24914 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:38 -0500 Received: (cpmta 27302 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 14:40:37 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.119) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 14:40:37 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 22:40:37 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113170339.00af6da8@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:41:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD2AF43.DD16651A@valstar.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:00 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, alyce cresap wrote: >lisa alfieri wrote: > > > > > Have we have a recent war that's lasted long enough to disprove this? > > > > I think the general public still believe it. Mainstream media mentions it > > so often I see no reason for people not to think it's true. > >Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm did not improve the economy. They were also 40-50+ years ago. When I learned about these wars in school the impact they had on the economy was never talked about. They were studied as examples of times when the American public didn't understand why we were at war and really didn't support it. I think that's what most people think about when they are mentioned regardless of whether they were alive when they happened. I clearly remember my stepfather, who was enlisted in the Navy during the Korean War, say at the time of Desert Storm that it would be good for the economy. Many people thought that too. We were going through a tough time then as well. I don't remember being quite as bad as it is now but, that's my own personal memory and not based on any facts I've looked up. >WW II did. Yes, and it's the major war that's talked about in the history of the United States. What I learned about WW II, in a nut shell, was that it managed to topple Hitler, detonate the atomic bomb and save the US economy. Oh and it also created the cold war. >The circumstances were entirely different. Yes, I agree, the circumstances are very different but consider your audience. This list is comprised of academics. A group of people who look at things more in depth. Outside of this group the McVersion of current events is being fed to the public. A lot of parallels are being drawn between today's stock market and the depression era stock market. And a lot of people still hang on to the idea that war will re-ignite the economy. > This one won't help the economy--it will put us deeper into a deficit. > It is not clear to me why the Republicans have no problem with deficit > spending anymore, when they used to say how bad the Democrats were for > doing it. And I don't understand why the Democrats did not capitalize on this. The reason it wasn't brought up is because I think the Democratic Party was a complete and total mess this time around. They had absolutely no organization or direction. I have no idea what platform they were running on (partially because I like in MA and John Kerry ran un-opposed). I still can't tell you, even after their defeat, what they were trying to accomplish. Personally I think if the democrats wanted to win they would have used the possibility of war to scare the shit out of the voting public. I expected them to take this bent. Re: Government spending. It is the dirty little secret a lot of people don't seem to be aware of at the moment. Just recently my company decided to stop targeting major software companies and large financial institutions in favor of government agencies because they are the one group who's spending money without a lot of trepidation. So why aren't people more aware of what the government is spending money on? Because they're worried about their wallets and they aren't paying attention. They're more distracted by the numbers the stock market is posting than where the government is spending money. Besides, everyone knows the Republicans don't spend money, right? >alyce So before I end I want to put a disclaimer on this.. I realize this email is full of holes. There's lots of room for discussion and debate. Feel free to embark on it too. If I have the time I'll even respond. If I don't, enjoy anyway. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6m027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A958@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:58:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718127 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:58:52 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMwpB27404 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:58:51 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5JEE501.0EC for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:56:29 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD2DA48.24F85A6D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:37 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > > >I remember you buying an apron but I forgot what it looks like. Is > > >that the only thing he wears? Betty > > He has something on underneath. Never fry bacon in the nude. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6n027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410AD2C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:31:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3721020 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:31:54 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNVsB32711 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:31:54 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-45.panax.com [65.114.190.45]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNVqt26371 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:31:53 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113183031.009f0700@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:31:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113165053.00ad0b08@mail.attbi.com> References: <20021113194251.1935C7C22@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113143940.009f6ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >You're intelligent, you can figure this out yourself and if you can't at >least be considerate of people's suggestions. >lisa But, wait a second, Lisa! Aren't you the one that wanted to see more controversy on words-l? Aren't you the one who craves the flame wars of old?! --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6n027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410AACB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3719165 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:18 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN8IB28901 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:08:18 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.169]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113231001.EMOW14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:10:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2DB5C.3690EBC9@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:08:12 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > A new one just has opened in Rhinebeck that is said to be as big > as a city block. I can't imagine. That would have to have enough food in > it to feed all of the county and beyond. Our Wmart is probably the size of a city block. But it has more than just food. Then again, just the food part is about as big as some blocks I've seen. And yes -- there's lots of food. But it feeds people of more than one county. The parking lot on a weekend is full of out-of-county cars, and the store is full of strangers. Although I like the prices, I do miss the old days of knowing almost everybody I saw when I went grocery shopping. You know I really have turned into a small-town person even though I grew up in a city. Certain things about small-town life me. This afternoon when I was on my way from campus to the nursing home, I saw a fire engine and found tears running down my cheeks, perhaps encouraged by its being the last part of the 1812 Overture on my car radio. What caused the tears was what I knew about a Starkville fireman who was killed a week or so ago in a poolroom fight while on a fishing trip in Louisiana. Newspaper accounts etc. made it clear that this man was truly loved by many and that he wasn't a poolroom-fighter type at all -- it was just one of those horrible situations when somebody dies while doing something out of character. Actually, I remembered him. I remembered standing in front of a neighbor's house in my old neighborhood when a tree had fallen on power lines and he'd called the fire dept to check on the safety. This man who died in Louisiana was there talking to us in front of John's house. Anyway, what made me cry today was something I had cried over when reading about it in the newspaper. They sent a Starkville fire engine to Louisiana to bring his body back, led by a highway patrol car. When they got to the edge of Starkville on the return, the police blocked off all of Highway 12, a busy road through town, for the fire engine to move through to the funeral home. I didn't see this, but the newspaper account said that the policepeople at every intersection of course had their hats off and their hands over their hearts and that the random public in the area when they realized what was happening stopped and put their hands over their hearts and stood in quiet respect as "this young man was driven one last time through his town." I can't explain this. Shouldn't have even tried. And it's making me cry again. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6n027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410AE8B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:53:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3721682 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:53:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:jgQ00qfI9S0BTEFBw0BOQ0DiMpbWtR3s@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNhcB01680 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:43:38 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301D72FDC4 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id ED1167C24; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:43:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113180125.009f7760@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 13, 2002 6: 1:50 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:43:37 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113234337.ED1167C24@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >Tushar Samant said: > > > Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > > > http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm > > Fun game. I'm a trainee. I'm HOOKED!!! I forget what I am. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6f027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04107F89@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:41:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3686958 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:41:33 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHfXV28551 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:41:33 -0500 Received: from [12.236.52.68] by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021113174126.PDHO24365.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@[12.236.52.68]> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:41:26 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:40:53 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <20021113170933.DFEC37C31@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113085438.035f2460@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay writes, >Everything I've read says that the economy is crucial to his >re-election prospects. I have to hope that self-interest wins out. Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along with of course oil company profits, presumably the leading economic indicator for the Administration). Besides, with the Supremes picked by Republicans, Republicans in control of the House and Senate, and Republicans owning the companies making the new voting machines, do you *really* think President "as adjudicated, not elected" Bush will have trouble winning the election? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6g027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041081D4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:58:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3687585 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:58:19 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADHmJV30118 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:48:19 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gADHmJEM000931; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 09:48:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113100536.00a71a00@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 10:05:46 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113192938.A1310@yoccoz.multinix.com> References: <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> <20021113081752.A8735@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113162723.EBEDE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:29 PM 11/13/2002 +0100, stevie wrote: >On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:27:23AM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >= stevie said: >= > When I was a kid, we'd leave them in the closet, and then maybe >= > we'd fetch them and put them in the laundry basket. So sometimes >= > when everything was all hung there'd be left over hangers in the >= > basket after the laundry was put away, and they'd hang out there >= > for the next round. >= >= I'd do this, except I put dirty clothes in the basket (and do laundry >= when it's full. > >I think we frequently put dirty laundry on top of the hangers. TMI From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6h027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108F96@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:42:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3698936 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:42:04 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJg4a24952 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:42:04 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJg0t03216 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:42:00 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113144059.009feaa0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:41:38 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <3DD22A4C.15997.7A6004@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092931.00a01510@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD21B24.19218.3F2B10@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I'm trying to learn to be meaner. > >grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr --BrP Awe, you're so cute when you get mad. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6i027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410964E@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3703955 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:22 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKWMa01877 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:22 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gADKWKB25895 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:32:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001e01c28b54$06cce440$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <7e.31002450.2b0406aa@aol.com> Subject: Re: legal question Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:34:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I have a question about joint tenancy (where two or more people > equally co-own real property, and if one dies, all of the property > goes to the surviving co-owners): let's say that two people are > joint tenants and they both die, who gets the property? > > Evelyn Duncan > brandykitt@aol.com Depends upon the legal set-up. Google for Joint ownership vs Tenants in Common, and you'll get a real education. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6j027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041096DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:36:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3704378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:36:15 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKaFa02625 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:36:15 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKaDt15778 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:36:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113153421.00a00520@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:35:51 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: quest for pounds In-Reply-To: <3DD2AB43.74507080@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >In light of my continuing quest for pounds, and the difficulty of >shopping, I signed up yesterday for Meals on Wheels. >alyce Great move, alyce! I have a friend in Wisconsin who volunteers a few times a month to deliver meals. One time she realized that the person she was bringing meals to must be my cousin. It was. Was the person who brought your meal friendly? Will you do this seven days a week? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6j027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109748@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3704700 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:45 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKcja03184 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:45 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-195.panax.com [65.114.190.195]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKcit16361 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:44 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113153755.00a17130@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:38:20 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <7e.31002450.2b0406aa@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I have a question about joint tenancy (where two or more people >equally co-own real property, and if one dies, all of the property >goes to the surviving co-owners): let's say that two people are >joint tenants and they both die, who gets the property? >Evelyn Duncan An equal spilt between their heirs would make sense to me. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6k027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109AE9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:01:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:01:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:OC9+wggzFdfuRopSOPr4lrcWqP7SJIjP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADKpMa05612 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:51:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073722FDBF for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B09A27C10; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:51:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: quest for pounds In-Reply-To: <3DD2BB8F.66480F65@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 13, 2002 3:52:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:51:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113205121.B09A27C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > She was fast. She just thrust the meal into my hand and ran off. Not > unfriendly, but very hurried. I was told by the manager lady that they > don't want to stay and chat. But, but, but on the commercials they showed that guy singing to that woman! Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6k027379 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04109B67@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:04:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3707599 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:04:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL4Ga08730 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:04:17 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADL4Et22443 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:04:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113160140.00b6cfa8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:54 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <20021113204934.91A277C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113154630.00a11180@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 12:49 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Kewl. What happens to your house if you die at the same time? Our wills now specify that all our assets, including the house, go to Lisa. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6l027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A194@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:57:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3711393 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:57:39 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:FrDCrPkjR25QE7NAX7hwF20Mg2guHFTg@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADLlda16431 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:47:39 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EF82FE5F for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8C69E7C0E; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:47:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113133909.00a63440@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty Clark at "Nov 13, 2002 1:40:48 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:47:38 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021113214738.8C69E7C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty Clark said: > At 11:42 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >bonniev said: > > > >When I do laundry, I usually need more > > > >hangers than are available on the rod I'm going to put the clean > > > >clothes on. > > > > > > I don't do that. I only need the hangers when I iron. > > > >I don't iron. > > > > > >What I have instead is cabinets, and > > > >eyelevel cabinet space seemed too valuable to waste on hangers. Also, > > > >hangers in cabinets is awkward. --Karen > > > > > > Attach a bar to the underside of the cabinets and hang the hangers there. > > > >Gee, Bonnie, that never occurred to me! Not. > > Gee, Karen, you asked a question. A stupid question granted, but a > question. Now you don't like the answers? The question I asked was "what do you do?" I didn't solicit suggestions for what I should do--I'm not nearly that masochistic. > I really think you should not > discuss hangers any further because you are so insensitive and > disrespectful to people who were only trying to help. Throw the damn > things out. And just let my clothes flop on the floor like a Muslim praying to Mecca? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6l027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A787@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:36 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h004.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.119]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gADMeaB24897 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:40:36 -0500 Received: (cpmta 27284 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 14:40:35 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.119) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 14:40:35 -0800 X-Sent: 13 Nov 2002 22:40:35 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113164954.00ab19c0@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:50:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Netscape quirk In-Reply-To: <20021113193508.B609F7C24@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD2A8F1.8C2BF28E@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:35 AM 11/13/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >alyce cresap said: > > Suddenly I am unable to delete messages with the Delete at the top of > > the screen, and only can do it with the delete key on the keyboard. This > > is totally silly and awkward for me. I have rebooted. It began when I > > tried to delete a message from Doris ("Blech"), which hung everything up > > and I had to controlaltdelete. Then her message kept hanging there and I > > couldn't delete anything following it either (with the screen delete). > > So, finally, I read all the messages and then deleted en masse with the > > keyboard delete. But what could be causing that, does anyone know? > >It's a Sign From God that you need to upgrade. > >Karen says the woman who balks at html laden messages. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6m027378 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410A82A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:46:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717190 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:46:24 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADMkOB25741 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:46:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.165.169]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021113224806.DNUR14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:48:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2D63A.99189E6E@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:46:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <200211122338.gACNcWL29574@listserv.cc.uga.edu> <3DD25403.A662F97A@valstar.net> <3DD26496.EBC92BCB@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > If she's going to Boise that's the home of Albertsons, and they do > indeed have electric grocery carts, as does every other supermarket in > the GMA. But it was Alyce who hadn't seen electric grocery carts, wasn't it? And she's not moving to Boise. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6m027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410AA29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:02:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718683 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:02:16 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN2GB28027 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:02:16 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-45.panax.com [65.114.190.45]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADN2Et17739 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:02:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113180125.009f7760@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:01:50 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <20021113214601.237527C10@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021113213125.GA353@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Tushar Samant said: > > Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > > http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm Fun game. I'm a trainee. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6n027377 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410AD02@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3720866 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:28 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTRB32383 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADNTPt25683 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:29:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113182214.00b7bb78@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:25:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113144302.00a02ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:43 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, betty wrote: >I remember you buying an apron but I forgot what it looks like. Is that >the only thing he wears? Usually, I wear L.L. Bean lightweight hiking boots and selections from my vast wardrobe of shorts or jeans and sweatshirts. (Ties are not only optional, but slightly ludicrous.) cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6n027381 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410AF58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:07:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3722901 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:07:35 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail012.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.32]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE07ZB04733 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:07:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.133]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114000918.IZRQ18084.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:09:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2E941.F07B7E1F@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:07:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: More from Theo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Theo: What mail program are you using? Your replies are apparently going to the individual sender instead of to the list. > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 05:38:52 -0600 Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > The belated HB to Adam in this posting made > > clear that it was intended > > for the whole list, not just for me: > > > > I think the move sounds great! > > > > --> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > > Yes indeed! I remembered Adam's birthday because it's on the same day as mine! > :-) > It wasn't because I've got a fabulous memory! > Theo > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 05:38:52 -0600 Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > The belated HB to Adam in this posting made > > clear that it was intended > > for the whole list, not just for me: > > > Isn't my mail reaching the list? This server is whacky :-( > > Theo -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0BO6h027380 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04108FC4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699083 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:14 -0500 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gADJhDa25273 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:13 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.68.2899dd4d (3890) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:06 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <68.2899dd4d.2b040549@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:43:05 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 8:28:20 AM Central Standard Time, bonniev@PANAX.COM writes: << I have twelve episodes of Northern Exposure on tape. >> I wish A&E would still show the episodes. Until Joel left, it was a very special program; after he left, it lost its heart and soul. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:11:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0Bx6f027487 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:11:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469699@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:10:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3723055 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:10:37 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0AWB04998 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:10:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE0AQi05437 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:10:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:10:26 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113183206.00b78620@mail.panax.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No, Clyde, in about twenty years, historians will recognize 9/11 as the catalyst for Americans getting rid of the fascists in their midst, masquerading prior to that time as tolerant multiculturalists. Oh, if you'd like to see one of those compassion fascists portrayed, I have some comments about UT (Knoxville) provost Loren Crabtree at http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com Don't forget to follow the links, there's much, much more there. > In about twenty years, when Alan is sitting there fondling his toy pistol > (the only one the administration will allow him to have) and JMW's studies > of the constitution are of academic interest only, historians will probably > be referring to 9/11 as the American equivalent of the Reichstag fire. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 Department of Economics http://www.niu.edu/~ta0shk1 Northern Illinois University 815 753 6980 (voice) DeKalb, Illinois 60115 815 752 1019 (fax) ATTITUDE is a nine letter word. BOATSPEED. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:15:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0FB6f027560 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:15:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410AFBF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:13:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3722696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:13:49 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE03nB04162 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:03:49 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAE03msV027259 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:03:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021113162044.00aa1540@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:21:15 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <001001c28b5d$40aa09a0$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:46 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, you wrote: >> >I remember you buying an apron but I forgot what it looks like. Is >> >that the only thing he wears? Betty > >He has something on underneath. > >>Please describe the comfortable apron. >>I'm thinking of making some. >> - D. M. > >Mostly it is the material that it is made out of which makes it >comfortable. It is 100% cotton, made in India. It's a green and beige >check which goes nicely with Clyde's green granite kitchen. It has a >pocket and a loop on it. Clyde pins a dish towel through the loop which >gives him a convenient place to wipe his hands and keep the apron from >getting too dirty. It washes up nicely without shrinkage or need for >ironing. It stays soft. Yes, I remember it now! It was a great apron. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:16:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0GR6f027574 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:16:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B00C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:15:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3723590 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:15:01 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail112.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0F1B06168 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:15:01 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.133]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114001643.JEUN18084.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:16:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2EAFF.BEF7B3A6@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:14:55 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> <3DD28CC9.EA67661B@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > What will be the straw that breaks GWB's > back so that he starts the attack? Are you being ironic in your choice of that metaphor? I see it more as what excuse will he be able to find to start the war he obviously is chomping at the bits to start. Then again, I had thought maybe his major war-mongering was to affect the midterm elections and that it would wane now. I'm not sure what the voters will think two years from now. I guess much will depend on exactly what happens -- whether Georgie will succeed in grabbing all the oil, how many body bags have been shipped home, whether we'll all be dead, or what. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:16:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0Gt6f027581 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:16:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B016@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:15:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3723638 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:15:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0FWB06268 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:15:32 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-121.panax.com [65.114.190.121]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0FTt04720 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:15:29 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113191426.009f5210@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:14:49 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <20021113234337.ED1167C24@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113180125.009f7760@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >bonniev said: > > >Tushar Samant said: > > > > Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > > > > http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm > > > > Fun game. I'm a trainee. > >I'm HOOKED!!! I forget what I am. >Karen Is there some way you can buy or download the game, once and for all? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:19:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0Jv6f027610 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:19:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046973E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:18:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3723765 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:18:35 -0500 Received: from imf12bis.bellsouth.net (mail112.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.52]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0IZB06644 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:18:35 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.133]) by imf12bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114002017.JHBZ18084.imf12bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:20:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2EBD5.A2B2DC33@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:18:29 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113173355.4355F7C31@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Tushar Samant said: > > Why do you have more clothes than space for plastic hangers on rods? > > I don't. I just don't have space for empty plastic hangers. I still don't get it. Hmmm. Maybe it's that you always count on having some of your hanging clothes in the dirty-clothes basket, thus freeing up space. Is that it? But that doesn't make sense either. Like right after you wash clothes, aren't all your clothes clean? What do you do with them? If your closets don't have enough space for empty hangers, how can they accommodate clothed hangers? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:25:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0PZ6f027663 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:25:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00469799@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3724052 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:12 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0OCB07394 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:12 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE0OBB14449 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:24:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001e01c28b74$6a8eb600$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021113213125.GA353@pobox.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113180125.009f7760@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: The saddest web game ever Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:26:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Tushar Samant said: > > > Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > > > http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm > > Fun game. I'm a trainee. > > > --bonniev Hey, you want a fun word game, go to http://www.iwon.com and in their game section play WhatWord. Seems simple til you get to higher levels, of course. You can compare your score with others around the country. Highest I've been is 9th in the country one day. Challenging game and fun. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:25:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0PZ6f027666 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:25:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046979A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3724056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:13 -0500 Received: from imf10bis.bellsouth.net (mail010.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0OCB07397 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([216.78.178.82]) by imf10bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114002555.HPCB8150.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:25:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2ED23.2AE14F6A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:24:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021113174512.CAFF67C24@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Peter Kaminski said: > > Probably one of the goals of the war is invigoration of the economy (along > > I thought that myth had been busted? I hope that Steve of the tacking sail can maybe explain this, because it's something I've always found confusing. I find personal finance easy to understand but government finance way above my head. War re the economy is just one of the mysteries to me. > I believe that he'll have trouble winning the popular vote. For what > that's worth. It's clearly not worth much, alas. It really would be interesting to see what our world would be like right now if the voters had won in 2000. I'm not sure what the answer would be -- what things would be like if Gore were Pres -- which is why I said it would be interesting to see. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:30:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0Up6f027734 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:30:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004697EE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:29:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3724377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:29:26 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0TQB08283 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:29:26 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADE50209; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBC25883; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:29:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:26:40 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD26120.1976.111A260@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113183206.00b78620@mail.panax.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 13 Nov 2002 at 18:10, Stephen H Karlson wrote: > No, Clyde, in about twenty years, historians will recognize 9/11 as the > catalyst for Americans getting rid of the fascists in their midst, > masquerading prior to that time as tolerant multiculturalists. At best, it might mark the exchange of one group of fascists for another. If "mulitculturalists" are fascists, they seem rather impotent compared to the Bushofascists, who may well do more damage than "multiculturalists" ever could to the very institutions you think you're defending against them. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:32:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0WB6f027749 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:32:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004697FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:30:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3724409 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:30:49 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0UnB08390 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:30:49 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE0UlB22483 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:30:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002901c28b75$5666b000$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113180235.00a13a20@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: No unborn children left behind, either Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:32:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > I don't know about other states but here if you shoot a pregnant woman in > >the womb and kill the unborn child you're charged with first-degree murder. > >JMW > > I thought it made a difference as to how far along the pregnancy was. > > > --bonniev Consider this: I am a mother with 12 kids and I don't want to have any more ot them, so I get myself a little ammunition and direct it right at the testicular source. Does the law go back this far? I (the fictional mother of 12) would welcome the freedom of my prison cell. - D. M. children From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:44:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0iF6f027837 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:44:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004698DF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:42:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725056 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:42:53 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0gqB09776 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:42:52 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18C85Q-0003U8-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:42:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113161626.03bf1d30@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:37:51 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113170339.00af6da8@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Hi, Steve! I'm Pete. I think anybody who blogs can't be all bad -- hopefully you do too. Mine is at . (OTOH, I think blogs put us on the wrong side of Tushar.) Stephen H Karlson writes, >Although war will divert resources from other uses, which is not the same >thing as re-igniting the economy, its successful completion will reduce >the uncertainty about Islamo-fascists with their delightful tendency to >kill themselves and take others with them. This makes no sense to me whatsoever. If/when the US removes Saddam and occupies Iraq, or whatever it's going to do, how does that significantly reduce the uncertainty about what the Islamo-fascists are going to do? Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:52:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0px6f027910 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:52:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046998F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:50:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725633 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:50:37 -0500 Received: from imf28bis.bellsouth.net (mail028.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0obB10515 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:50:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.78]) by imf28bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114004906.PVCV16396.imf28bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:49:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2F353.DC95DD68@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:50:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113195019.A1509@yoccoz.multinix.com> from stevie at "Nov 13, 2002 7:50:19 pm" <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > That's why hampers are made out of stuff like wicker - containment with ventilation. > > I've never understood the whole hamper thing. Don't clothes get smelly > > when they are closed up? > > > > Karen I don't put clothes that are likely to become smelly in my laundry basket (even though it's open-air style -- as in an open basket sitting in the floor of my bathroom closet). Sweaty clothes I take off after cutting the grass or towels I use to wipe up Spencer's vomit or stuff like that goes straight into the washing machine, the lid of which I leave open on such occasions since I don't like the idea of potential stinks even there. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:53:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0r96f027924 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:53:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004699A5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:51:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725714 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:51:46 -0500 Received: from imf28bis.bellsouth.net (mail028.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.68]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0pkB10651 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:51:46 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.166.78]) by imf28bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114005015.PWGO16396.imf28bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:50:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2F39A.D918E7D0@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:51:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113183212.54F127C46@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > But wicker molds, and I'd have my homeowner's insurance canceled! What does this mean? Your homeowner's insurance would be canceled if you had wicker possessions?? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:56:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0ux6f027946 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:56:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00469A17@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:55:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3726046 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:55:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0tZB11078 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:55:36 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.72]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5JJSO01.OEO for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:53:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD2F442.5239C8FE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:54:27 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021113170933.DFEC37C31@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113183206.00b78620@mail.panax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "clyde w. voigtlander" wrote: > In about twenty years, when Alan is sitting there fondling his toy pistol > (the only one the administration will allow him to have) and JMW's studies > of the constitution are of academic interest only, historians will probably > be referring to 9/11 as the American equivalent of the Reichstag fire. Uh, Clyde, you want to pass along a little taste of whatever you're smoking there? I think I need it to make sense of the above. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 18:58:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE0wd6f027975 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:58:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00469A4D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:57:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3726216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:57:16 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE0vGB11326 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:57:16 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.215]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114005858.ZQJZ4249.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:58:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2F4E3.9CD3403C@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:57:07 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113102215.035eb690@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski quoted Dubya: > They hate us because we love. They > hate, we love freedom, is why they hate us, ... (Applause.)" > Oh my god. I almost didn't read this because I'm way behind in mail and have tons of stuff I need to be doing tonight. Kinda wish I hadn't read it. I'm sinking deeper and deeper into the slough of despond re my country and its future. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:01:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE11h6f028020 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:01:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469AA8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:00:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3726504 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:00:20 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE10KB11748 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:00:20 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.215]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114010202.ZTAJ4249.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2F59E.5DF5B597@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:00:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113192938.A1310@yoccoz.multinix.com> <20021113173115.41F0F7C11@yellow.rahul.net> <20021113195019.A1509@yoccoz.multinix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU stevie wrote: > = > I think we frequently put dirty laundry on top of the hangers. > = > = Well, that doesn't make it right! > = > What's your problem? If you didn't need them right away, and > then they were under the dirty laundry, they'd be right there to > hang it up after it had been washed. I never said it was right, > it was just what got done. geez. But hey -- you know what they say about people in the northern half or so of the continent... That subject arose in my SLA class a couple of days ago when we were talking about olfactory signals, and I asked a student from Barcelona whether it was true that southern Europeans think that northern Europeans . She said that yes, that's a general belief, but that she herself hadn't noticed it in traveling. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:05:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE15b6f028038 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:05:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469AEF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3726798 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail123.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE14FB12243 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:04:15 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.215]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114010557.ZWKO4249.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:05:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD2F689.DF74D87A@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:04:09 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Netscape quirk References: <20021113193508.B609F7C24@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > It's a Sign From God that you need to upgrade. Not. I've had no such problems with my Netscape 4.7. Here it is a couple of minutes after 7:00, and I noticed that "Outbreak" was coming on at 7:00. I think I'm ready to be really, truly retired. If I were truly retired, I might not have 100+ pieces of list mail still ahead, plus various other stuff to do tonight. And I would watch "Outbreak." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:12:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1C56f028070 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:12:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00469B6B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:10:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3727182 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:10:43 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1ARB12834 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:10:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE1AQx08784 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:10:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:10:26 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD2ED23.2AE14F6A@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I did, in a response to one of Lisa's comments. There isn't much fiscal stimulus in a war fought the hypermodern American way, as it does not require mass mobilization of people the way World War II does. There is much benefit in providing a world where goods and people can move freely, which President Clinton benefitted by during the years between our victory in the Cold War and the death rattles of the Islamofascists. There will be much benefit for people all around the world in open trade and freedom of movement between the United States, Russia, even the European Union, and the constitutional republics in progress in Afghanistan and yet to come in Iran (have you been following the student protests there?), Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Palestine. > I hope that Steve of the tacking sail can maybe explain this, because > it's something I've always found confusing. I find personal finance > easy to understand but government finance way above my head. War re the > economy is just one of the mysteries to me. Oh, and the voters did win in 2000. Every Florida recount has the same result, so don't bring that whinge around here any more. Had Vice President Gore won the election (which by all logic he should have) his foreign policy advisors would likely be counseling restraint, and wait, wait, wait, wait (see Bill Sjostrom's http://atlanticblog.blogspot.com during mid-October for some commentary), and al-Qaeda wouldn't have to hire someone to impersonate Osama bin Liner's voice, as he'd still be taunting that sanctimonious wooden man from his villa in Qandahar. > It's clearly not worth much, alas. It really would be interesting to > see what our world would be like right now if the voters had won in > 2000. I'm not sure what the answer would be -- what things would be > like if Gore were Pres -- which is why I said it would be interesting to > see. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 Department of Economics http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:16:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1GZ6f028113 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:16:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B4F1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:15:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3727332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:15:12 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1FBB13211 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:15:11 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.72]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5JKPC01.VE7 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:12:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD2F8DB.FEE16983@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:14:03 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113102215.035eb690@mail.istori.com> <3DD2F4E3.9CD3403C@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Oh my god. I almost didn't read this because I'm way behind in > mail and have tons of stuff I need to be doing tonight. Kinda wish I > hadn't read it. I'm sinking deeper and deeper into the slough of > despond re my country and its future. It is uncertain, and the number of people who wish us ill for specious reasons are many, but remember what George Orwell said when you say your "Now I lay me's" tonight: "People sleep soundly in their beds tonight because rough men stand ready to do violence in their behalf." JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:22:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1Mc6f028148 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:22:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469C2E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:21:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3727626 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:21:15 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (oe50.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1LFB13758 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:21:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:21:09 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [216.249.158.68] From: "Amy Burns Short" To: "English Language Discussion Group" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2002 01:21:09.0912 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D08D980:01C28B7C] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Never fry bacon in the nude. >JMW That's right. AS From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:25:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1PW6f028163 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:25:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469C5B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:24:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3727753 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:24:09 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1O9B13982 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:24:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE1O3O09542 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:24:03 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113161626.03bf1d30@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter, Yes, I'll have a look. I recommend that longtime words readers check out my http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com as there are numerous Words-L moments noted there, and my references to UCLA (motto: On! Wisconsin!) have a Words-L connection. > Hi, Steve! I'm Pete. I think anybody who blogs can't be all bad -- > hopefully you do too. Mine is at . (OTOH, I > think blogs put us on the wrong side of Tushar.) As far as the next question goes, follow the money. Once Saddam is out of business, the blood money to 'splodeydopes in Israel dries up. Once the oilfields are back in production and the gains from trade go to rebuilding a civilian economy in Iraq (rather than to building those presidential palaces that will evaporate in the first five minutes of the war), the House of Saud's oil revenues dry up. That takes money out of the hands of the Wahhabim (who have been engaging in religious imperialism toward Islamic congregations from Sarajevo to Sumatra) and closes down the seminaries that have been fomenting that unreformed Islamic worldview. It's a lot harder to get people angry about grievances when their lives improve (starting in Afghanistan, to be done domestically in Iran, to be done by methods not yet determined in Iraq) and when the rabble rousers are out of business. Oh, and since this is an English language discussion list, why do people insist on using the adjective "puritanical" with Wahhabism? If memory serves, the Puritans were reformers of the church, and they beheaded a corrupt king. Anyway, thanks for a good question, I welcome further comments. > This makes no sense to me whatsoever. If/when the US removes Saddam and > occupies Iraq, or whatever it's going to do, how does that significantly > reduce the uncertainty about what the Islamo-fascists are going to do? Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:33:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1X26f028228 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:33:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469CF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:31:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728437 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:31:40 -0500 Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1VeB15201 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:31:40 -0500 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B63C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:31:40 -0500 Message-Id: <200211140131.gAE1VeB15201@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:31:39 -0500 From: Karen Kay Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:31:25 -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: >Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > >http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm Me, too. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:48:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1mV6f028319 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:48:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B992@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:47:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728560 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:43:19 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:D+obywTTv218yNWeHhPQgTcnXl5KIt+A@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1XJB15540 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:33:19 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE88C2FE57 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:33:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 869297C10; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:33:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113191426.009f5210@pop3.norton.antivirus> from bonniev at "Nov 13, 2002 7:14:49 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:33:18 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114013318.869297C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev said: > >bonniev said: > > > >Tushar Samant said: > > > > > Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > > > > > http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm > > > > > > Fun game. I'm a trainee. > > > >I'm HOOKED!!! I forget what I am. > >Karen > > Is there some way you can buy or download the game, once and for all? God, I hope not. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:48:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1mb6f028323 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:48:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B9A4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:47:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728600 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:45:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:0RQrJCQAVCjyClxeJq/jzqIOSC68Xu/K@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1YqB15661 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:34:52 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D882FD83 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:34:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A37217C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:34:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either In-Reply-To: <002901c28b75$5666b000$930332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 13, 2002 6:32:28 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:34:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114013449.A37217C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > > I don't know about other states but here if you shoot a pregnant > woman in > > >the womb and kill the unborn child you're charged with first-degree > murder. > > >JMW > > > > I thought it made a difference as to how far along the pregnancy was. > > > > > > --bonniev > > Consider this: I am a mother with 12 kids > and I don't want to have any more ot them, > so I get myself a little ammunition and direct > it right at the testicular source. Does the law > go back this far? I (the fictional mother of > 12) would welcome the freedom of my > prison cell. Or you could drown all the children. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:48:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1mm6f028329 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:48:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B9C2@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:47:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3730835 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:45:55 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1jsB17270 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:45:54 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18C94P-0006ZI-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:45:26 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113173043.039a7bc0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:45:39 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113161626.03bf1d30@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson writes, >the House of Saud's oil revenues dry up Although the rest follows perfectly logically, this is the part that's not immediately obvious to me. How does returning Iraq's oilfields to production, funding the rebuilding of a civilian economy in Iraq dry up the House of Saud's oil revenues? Can't the Saudi's continue to generate oil revenues, just less lucratively? And even if they can't generate revenue, don't they have enough cash reserves to unleash all kinds of holy terror as they go down? Thanks for the analysis, and for being of such good cheer about it. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:48:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1mm6g028329 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:48:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410B9C4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:47:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728766 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:46:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3raavmQowzSoj0gApW9eg5LWklpkr6Uz@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1aHB15864 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:36:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAFB2FD83 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2833D7C12; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:36:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD2F353.DC95DD68@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 13, 2002 6:50:27 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:36:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114013616.2833D7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > > > That's why hampers are made out of stuff like wicker - containment with ventilation. > > > > I've never understood the whole hamper thing. Don't clothes get smelly > > > when they are closed up? > > > > > > Karen > > I don't put clothes that are likely to become smelly in my laundry > basket (even though it's open-air style -- as in an open basket sitting > in the floor of my bathroom closet). Sweaty clothes I take off after > cutting the grass or towels I use to wipe up Spencer's vomit or stuff > like that goes straight into the washing machine, the lid of which I > leave open on such occasions since I don't like the idea of potential > stinks even there. My washing machine has a door, not a lid, so keeping it open blocks the path. I've discovered this by accident more than once. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:48:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1mr6f028335 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:48:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469EE5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:47:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728799 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:46:45 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Q2HhXKtJDRPQaGFb/EbvTyWWdeZIxGpC@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1ajB15932 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:36:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF9F2FDE8 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id A68197C26; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:36:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD2F39A.D918E7D0@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 13, 2002 6:51:39 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:36:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114013644.A68197C26@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > But wicker molds, and I'd have my homeowner's insurance canceled! > > What does this mean? Your homeowner's insurance would be canceled if > you had wicker possessions?? No. If I had mold. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:51:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1pK6f028346 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:51:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469F16@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:49:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728964 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:49:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:idJsKqiftHNAl2qDOxG470+3foMe+lw/@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1dvB16292 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:39:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C9A2FDE8 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C85917C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:39:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: from Stephen H Karlson at "Nov 13, 2002 7:10:26 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:39:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114013956.C85917C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson said: > I did, in a response to one of Lisa's comments. There isn't much fiscal > stimulus in a war fought the hypermodern American way, as it does not > require mass mobilization of people the way World War II does. Greenspan said something about the projected size of the Iraq war not being larger than the Korean war, but that the economy is so much larger that it would have less of an impact. (And evidently the Korean War had a significant negative impact.) > in the Cold War and the death rattles of the Islamofascists. There will Death rattles?! I think the fight has just been engaged. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:54:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1s06f028366 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:54:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469F42@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:52:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3731231 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:52:37 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1qbB17907 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:52:37 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust185.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.187]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD30285.FAC29477@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:55:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <3DD24008.19771.B3BC45E@localhost> <3DD28CC9.EA67661B@valstar.net> <3DD2EAFF.BEF7B3A6@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Are you being ironic in your choice of that metaphor? Didn't mean to be. I only meant that it would take very, very little, only a straw, to have him start the shooting war, inasmuch as he obviously is so eager to do it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:58:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1wL6f028415 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:58:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410BAA1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:56:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3730890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:56:58 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:XDV+ManYTaPpBd38AgJEdKaA9OS8zDkG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1kwB17338 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:46:58 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8F42FD83 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B90C47C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:46:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD2F8DB.FEE16983@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 13, 2002 6:14: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:46:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114014655.B90C47C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > It is uncertain, and the number of people who wish us ill for > specious reasons are many, but remember what George Orwell said when you > say your "Now I lay me's" tonight: "People sleep soundly in their beds > tonight because rough men stand ready to do violence in their behalf." Which brings me to my next Tim O'Brien quote: "As a first rule of thumb, therefore, you can tell a true war story by its absolute and uncompromising allegiance to obscenity and evil." I really recommend "The Things They Carried". It's the most passionate, moving, horrible thing I've read in a long time. His essay on war stories is priceless. It compares favorably with Band of Brothers, which is the acme of war movies. (Haven't seen Saving Private Ryan.) It actually gives you a framework for understand BoB--there was a lot in BoB that I didn't get till I read this book. It's also a very self-revealing book--O'Brien reveals things that are generally held private, and I wish, on some level, I hadn't read. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 19:58:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE1wk6f028419 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:58:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00469F9D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:57:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3731497 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:57:23 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE1vNB18347 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:57:23 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE1vLB09713 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:57:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c28b81$6e506600$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:59:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Mostly it is the material that it is made out of which makes it > comfortable. It is 100% cotton, made in India. It's a green and beige > check which goes nicely with Clyde's green granite kitchen. It has a > pocket and a loop on it. Clyde pins a dish towel through the loop which > gives him a convenient place to wipe his hands and keep the apron from > getting too dirty. It washes up nicely without shrinkage or need for > ironing. It stays soft. > > > --bonniev Take a look at this apron I made. This is the female version. Thinking of making a male version, and using the pair as a Xmas gift, or selling them. Just using up my endless supply of fabric. http://www.picturetrail.com/kamana Click on This and That. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:03:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2376f028473 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:03:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00469FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:01:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3731758 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:01:44 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE21iB18843 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:01:44 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5J00BTAMYVLF@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:01:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:02:56 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Blech To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD30450.5080005@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, lisa alfieri wrote: > > (text slipped at Reading) > > >>We were going through a tough time then as well. I don't remember being >>quite as bad as it is now but, that's my own personal memory and not based >>on any facts I've looked up. >> > > With current unemployment rates lower than what many economists used to > think of as the non-inflation-accelerating rate of unemployment, and the > labor force participation rates for women at historic highs? There are > Detroiters with long memories, and Mahoning Valley residents with > similarly long memories, and Texas oil patch residents with nearly as long > memories, who would think of economic conditions today as good times. You're high. Mahoning Valley residents -- especially those with long memories -- certainly do *not* think of these as good times. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:06:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2606f028494 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:06:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046A027@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:04:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3731932 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:04:37 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (root@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE24aB19157 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:04:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE1Djw08971 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:13:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:13:45 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD26120.1976.111A260@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Point taken, Mike. Tune in at http://instapundit.blogspot.com and http://andrewsullivan.com and http://www.dynamist.com/scene.html and http://www.reason.com You'll see that some of the most belligerent hawks are also watching the homeland security stuff very carefully. Limited government is a wonderful thing, and the war is providing libertarian thinkers with all kinds of opportunities to spell out what enumerated and limited powers refers to. > At best, it might mark the exchange of one group of fascists for > another. If "mulitculturalists" are fascists, they seem rather > impotent compared to the Bushofascists, who may well do more damage > than "multiculturalists" ever could to the very institutions you > think you're defending against them. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 Department of Economics http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:13:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2Dh6f028966 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046A0B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:12:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732225 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:12:19 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2CJB19712 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:12:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE2Bqr12145 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:11:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:11:52 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113173043.039a7bc0@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski raises some interesting points. It's called competition. The House of Saud is just about overdrawn anyway, and their proven reserves are dwindling. And if they did want to finance some mayhem, with the Seventh Fleet to the east, and the Israelis to the west, Riyadh delenda est. By the way, check out Peter's weblog. Nice readable design and a catholic set of links. > Although the rest follows perfectly logically, this is the part that's not > immediately obvious to me. > > How does returning Iraq's oilfields to production, funding the rebuilding > of a civilian economy in Iraq dry up the House of Saud's oil > revenues? Can't the Saudi's continue to generate oil revenues, just less > lucratively? > > And even if they can't generate revenue, don't they have enough cash > reserves to unleash all kinds of holy terror as they go down? > > Thanks for the analysis, and for being of such good cheer about it. :) Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:15:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2FH6f029001 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:15:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046A0CB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:13:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732277 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:13:54 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2DnB19823 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:13:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE2Dmk12231 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:13:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:13:48 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD30450.5080005@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Mahoning valley residents are nostalgic for 1977-1984? Please enlighten me. > You're high. Mahoning Valley residents -- especially those > with long memories -- certainly do *not* think of these as > good times. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:15:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2Fs6f029441 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:15:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046A0D5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:14:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732312 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:14:32 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2EWB19880 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:14:32 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust185.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.187]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:14:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD307A6.634FBD1D@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:17:10 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > There will > be much benefit for people all around the world in open trade and freedom > of movement Sure there would be, but Bush is not a free trader. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:22:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2Mf6f029468 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:22:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046A149@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:21:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732612 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:21:18 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2LHB20435 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:21:17 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5J00MQINVH42@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:21:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:22:29 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Blech To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD308E5.4080305@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU No. What war was going on then? I missed it. Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Mahoning valley residents are nostalgic for 1977-1984? Please enlighten > me. > > >> You're high. Mahoning Valley residents -- especially those >>with long memories -- certainly do *not* think of these as >>good times. >> > > Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 > http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:23:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2NY6f029478 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:23:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046A156@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:22:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732649 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:22:11 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2MBB20523 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:22:11 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2M8t02188 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:22:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113194438.00b89e98@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:47:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <20021113234235.3C5E87C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113181203.00b73830@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:42 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >What I meant was that you had lost contact for some time. Or am I >misremembering? No, you are correct. We were not in contact for about 30 years. >She suggested not using a spray bottle, but using lava rocks and >pouring boiling water over them. (Because the crust is formed in the >first 2-4 minutes, and that's when you need the steam.) That's basically what I do---preheat the oven and stone, spray the gemisch with water, slide the loaves in, give another short spritz, and bake. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:25:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2PE6f029489 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:25:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046A178@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:23:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732756 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:23:51 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2NpB20717 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:23:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust185.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.187]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:23:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD309D6.87770F61@valstar.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:26:30 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021114013956.C85917C15@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > (And evidently the Korean > War had a significant negative impact.) The economy was very bad during the Korean war and for a couple of years afterward. It ended in 1953, but when I graduated in 1955, it was nearly impossible for people in my class from Northwestern to find jobs in the Chicago area. My first job was for $35 a week. Even allowing for inflation over the years, you will see that this was fairly low. We all had to stay living with our parents for a couple of years, instead of stepping out boldly on our own. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:32:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2WW6f029793 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:32:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046A1EA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:31:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733198 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:31:09 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2V8B21722 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:31:08 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2V6t04273 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:31:06 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:31:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <000401c28b81$6e506600$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:59 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: >Take a look at this apron I made. This is the >female version. Thinking of making a male >version, and using the pair as a Xmas gift, >or selling them. Just using up my endless >supply of fabric. Pockets. It needs pockets. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:51:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2pu6f030762 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:51:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410BE22@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:50:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3734005 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:50:29 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2oTB23345 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:50:29 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18CA4u-0001w5-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:50:00 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113183230.03b38a60@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:50:14 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113173043.039a7bc0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson writes, >It's called competition. The House of Saud is just about overdrawn >anyway, and their proven reserves are dwindling. And if they did want to >finance some mayhem, with the Seventh Fleet to the east, and the Israelis >to the west, Riyadh delenda est. This is the "war" we should be fighting directly anyway, I think. Anyway, the mayhem would come not from Saudi Arabia directly, of course, but from the Wahhabi already scattered to the winds around the world -- while the House of Saud plays innocent (e.g., ). And while a jujitsu attack like that executed on 9-11 isn't free, neither is it particularly expensive. So I'm still left with the nagging doubt that Islamo-fascist uncertainty may survive the end of the war much longer than we'd like. >By the way, check out Peter's weblog. Nice readable design and a catholic >set of links. Thank you kindly. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 20:59:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE2xt6f031465 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:59:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410BE99@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:58:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:58:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:34Y5aUx8bgby7bp+1a6OFuIvxfSO9u/2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE2mTB23194 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:48:29 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7612FE8E for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 44D3F7C15; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:48:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 13, 2002 9:31: 4 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:48:28 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114024828.44D3F7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 07:59 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: > > >Take a look at this apron I made. This is the > >female version. Thinking of making a male > >version, and using the pair as a Xmas gift, > >or selling them. Just using up my endless > >supply of fabric. > > Pockets. It needs pockets. What do you put in your pockets? I have aprons with pockets and never use the pockets? Doris can make me an apron without pockets if she wants.:) I need a good one. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 21:18:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE3I86f031574 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:18:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046A5C2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:16:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3735593 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:16:44 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3GiB25828 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:16:44 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE3GdB15003 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:16:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003f01c28b8c$832c5c40$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:18:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "clyde w. voigtlander" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: WHTM at the store > At 07:59 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: > > >Take a look at this apron I made. This is the > >female version. Thinking of making a male > >version, and using the pair as a Xmas gift, > >or selling them. Just using up my endless > >supply of fabric. > > Pockets. It needs pockets. > > cwv The wide band of black Holstein fabric at lap level is divided into two big pockets. Should I add more? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 21:33:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE3XB6f031659 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:33:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046A710@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:31:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736694 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:31:47 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3VlB27224 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:31:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.115]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114033330.HNYG24555.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3191B.E66ECBF8@maynor.net> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:31:39 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: What a great movie! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Ok, so I was going to watch just a little bit of "Outbreak" for old time's sake. But I kept not being able to stop watching it. So here I am with still way over 100 pieces of unread list mail, and it's time to go to bed. Will have to catch up tomorrow night. Where *were* the dogs while Robbie and Sam were both gone, btw? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 21:39:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE3ds6f031704 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:39:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046A7A8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:38:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3737167 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:38:31 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3cUB27934 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:38:30 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-126.panax.com [65.114.190.126]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3cTt17557 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:38:29 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223726.00a1e7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:38:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <000401c28b81$6e506600$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Take a look at this apron I made. This is the >female version. >http://www.picturetrail.com/kamana > - D. M. It looks kind of stiff. What would be the difference between a male and female version? --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 21:44:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE3io6f031725 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:44:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410C344@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3737650 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:27 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3hRB28559 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:27 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3hPt18689 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:25 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223801.00b89b10@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:39:57 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <003f01c28b8c$832c5c40$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:18 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: >The wide band of black Holstein fabric at >lap level is divided into two big pockets. I didn't see them in the photo. >Should >I add more? No. As Bonnie has noted, I really like the loop through which one can drape or fasten a towel. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 21:44:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE3iq6f031728 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:44:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046A825@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3737657 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:29 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3hSB28569 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:28 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-63-163-41-223.panax.com [63.163.41.223]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE3hRt18697 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:27 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113224013.00b7ee88@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:43:25 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <20021114024828.44D3F7C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:48 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >What do you put in your pockets? I have aprons with pockets and never >use the pockets? Paper towels, small utensils, thermometers, recipe notes, small furry animals---the usual stuff. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:04:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE44u6f031825 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:04:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046AA21@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:03:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3739327 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:03:32 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE43WB30801 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:03:32 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.79.1f9c3cb (17228) for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:03:23 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <79.1f9c3cb.2b047a8b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:03:23 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Gone To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/13/2002 4:40:46 PM Central Standard Time, williams@MAIL.MC.MARICOPA.EDU writes: << They had a couple of good episodes after that, but I agree, that's when they jumped the shark. >> The last episode with Joel is also the worst episode with Chris. You can't tell me that Chris would overreact and sue the new doctor for malpractice just because the new doctor wasn't Joel? It wasn't the same Chris; it was a pod-person Chris. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:11:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4Bd6f031858 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:11:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046AAB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:10:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3739720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:10:15 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4AEB31412 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:10:15 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE4ACB18168 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:10:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c28b93$fe7c2f40$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD3191B.E66ECBF8@maynor.net> Subject: Re: What a great movie! Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:12:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Ok, so I was going to watch just a little bit of "Outbreak" for old > time's sake. But I kept not being able to stop watching it. So here I > am with still way over 100 pieces of unread list mail, and it's time to > go to bed. Will have to catch up tomorrow night. -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) And I was watching Chris Matthews' Hardball College Tour, tonight taking place in Arnold Hall at the U S Air Force Academy . . . and realizing that two days ago I sat in that same room watching and listening to the Vienna Boys' Choir. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:13:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4D36f031869 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:13:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046AAC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:11:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3739780 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:11:39 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4BdB31515 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:11:39 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE4BbB19970 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:11:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001501c28b94$3082e2e0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223726.00a1e7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:13:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >Take a look at this apron I made. This is the > >female version. > >http://www.picturetrail.com/kamana > > - D. M. > > It looks kind of stiff. What would be the difference between a male and > female version? > > > --bonniev It's not stiff, just new, although it is a sturdy fabric. Men's version will be larger. Maybe it should have a zipper fly in the front? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:13:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4Dm6f031876 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:13:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046AAD3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:12:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3739840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:12:25 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4COB31634 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:12:24 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE4CMB20814 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:12:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001c01c28b94$4b9e9560$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223801.00b89b10@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:14:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >The wide band of black Holstein fabric at > >lap level is divided into two big pockets. > > I didn't see them in the photo. > > >Should > >I add more? > > No. As Bonnie has noted, I really like the loop through which one can drape > or fasten a towel. > > cwv Good. I can do that. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:14:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4Es6f031904 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:14:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046AAE8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:13:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3739864 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:13:30 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4DUB31696 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:13:30 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE4DSB22135 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:13:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002d01c28b94$7282f180$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113224013.00b7ee88@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:14:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >What do you put in your pockets? I have aprons with pockets and never > >use the pockets? > > Paper towels, small utensils, thermometers, recipe notes, small furry > animals---the usual stuff. > > cwv Kleenex! - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:19:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4Je6f031939 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:19:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046AB45@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:18:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3739668 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:18:17 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:bRsFA5Ux5Yd9NznF2/Jfq7VzH87ENaDU@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE48HB31270 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:08:17 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1436C2FEBA for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC9FC7C11; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:08:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113224013.00b7ee88@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 13, 2002 10:43:25 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:08:16 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114040816.DC9FC7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > Paper towels, small utensils, thermometers, recipe notes, small furry > animals---the usual stuff. Ah. Except for the small furry animals, I put those things on the island. Speaking of the lack of small furry animals, my spider seems to have fled the scene without reproducing. I haven't found a body anywhere. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:25:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4PR6f032203 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:25:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410C66B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:24:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3739885 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:24:03 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:dwU8FC9hRY97ZKzLdnwazK3qYZr8uWlG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4E3B31740 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:14:03 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18BD2FE32 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 9F2997C12; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:14:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <001c01c28b94$4b9e9560$930332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 13, 2002 10:14:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:14:02 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114041402.9F2997C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > > > >The wide band of black Holstein fabric at > > >lap level is divided into two big pockets. > > > > I didn't see them in the photo. > > > > >Should > > >I add more? > > > > No. As Bonnie has noted, I really like the loop through which one can > drape > > or fasten a towel. > > > > cwv > > Good. I can do that. Is it elastic, or does it snap, or velcro, or it just a fixed, plain loop of fabric? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:36:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4ab6f032288 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:36:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410C731@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:35:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3740924 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:35:10 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4ZAB01351 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:35:10 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-126.panax.com [65.114.190.126]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4Z9t27967 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:35:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113233414.00a1bcb0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:34:43 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <20021114041402.9F2997C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <001c01c28b94$4b9e9560$930332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Is it elastic, or does it snap, or velcro, or it just a fixed, plain >loop of fabric? --Karen Just a plain, fixed loop of fabric. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 22:41:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE4f26f032308 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 22:41:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046AD48@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:39:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3741829 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:38:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:6JRt4JDEfro5JSsJRzoDGs79MZil1gY2@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE4cVB02068 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:38:31 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF982FDCE for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 19AF22B882; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA71E2B849 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:38:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:38:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <001501c28b94$3082e2e0$930332d1@0018079268> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Doris Markland wrote: > It's not stiff, just new, although it is a sturdy > fabric. Men's version will be larger. Maybe > it should have a zipper fly in the front? This is so perverted: an apron with a zipper fly! Where's Janet? Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 23:22:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE5MH6f003353 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:22:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410CE07@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 0:20:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3745675 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:20:24 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE5BrB06127 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:11:53 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAE5BpsV013902 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:11:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021113211401.00a69b10@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:14:13 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <20021114024828.44D3F7C15@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:48 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander said: > > At 07:59 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: > > > > >Take a look at this apron I made. This is the > > >female version. Thinking of making a male > > >version, and using the pair as a Xmas gift, > > >or selling them. Just using up my endless > > >supply of fabric. > > > > Pockets. It needs pockets. > >What do you put in your pockets? I have aprons with pockets and never >use the pockets? > >Doris can make me an apron without pockets if she wants.:) I need a >good one. You want the cow design? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 23:22:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE5MS6f003356 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:22:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046B16D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 0:21:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3745840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:20:28 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE5JlB06708 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:19:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE5JbK21130 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:19:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:19:37 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD307A6.634FBD1D@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am aware of the President's wobbliness on trade. But he's right about beating the Islamofascists. It is possible to be with him on the second and give him some nudges on the first. SHK > Sure there would be, but Bush is not a free trader. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 23:24:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE5OO6f003363 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:24:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410CE5B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 0:23:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3746029 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:23:00 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE5N0B07135 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:23:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAE5Mmn21260 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:22:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:22:48 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD308E5.4080305@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Perhaps we're talking past each other. My reference is to economic hard times, specifically to the closing of all the steelmaking capacity in Youngstown and Sharon. SHK. > No. What war was going on then? I missed it. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Wed Nov 13 23:38:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE5cX6f003452 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:38:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046B42B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 0:37:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3749479 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:37:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:cJ9iwzcghASGq8cdWL+nmVFUFdV88yLp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE5R9B08468 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:27:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096C82FEEC for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:27:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id CBB5D7C11; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:27:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20021113211401.00a69b10@uclink.berkeley.edu> from Betty at "Nov 13, 2002 9:14:13 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:27:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114052708.CBB5D7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Betty said: > At 06:48 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >clyde w. voigtlander said: > > > At 07:59 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: > > > > > > >Take a look at this apron I made. This is the > > > >female version. Thinking of making a male > > > >version, and using the pair as a Xmas gift, > > > >or selling them. Just using up my endless > > > >supply of fabric. > > > > > > Pockets. It needs pockets. > > > >What do you put in your pockets? I have aprons with pockets and never > >use the pockets? > > > >Doris can make me an apron without pockets if she wants.:) I need a > >good one. > > You want the cow design? I'm not picky. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 00:07:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE67p6f003592 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:07:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046B695@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 1:06:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3752088 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:06:27 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE66QB12225 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:06:26 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAE66PB22062 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:06:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002101c28ba4$3b1f4e40$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113212935.00b83c90@mail.panax.com> <4.2.2.20021113211401.00a69b10@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:08:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen: Doris can make me an apron without pockets if she wants.:) I need a good one. Sorry. My time is taken. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 00:53:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAE6rI6f004060 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:53:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046BA47@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 1:51:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3756094 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:51:49 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAE6pnB16733 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:51:49 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust92.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.94]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD348A3.AA23C06E@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 01:54:27 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > I am aware of the President's wobbliness on trade. But he's right about > beating the Islamofascists. It is possible to be with him on the second > and give him some nudges on the first. SHK He needs really a lot of nudges. Free trade is but one. In this week alone, and it's only Thursday, he has had wolves taken off the protected species list, allowed more snowmobiles to pollute Yellowstone with noise and fumes, and now will push for drilling in the Alaska Arctic Wildlife Refuge yet again. Who knows what incursions on nature will come tomorrow? And he is privatizing 200,000 Army jobs that now are held by government employees to put more money in the hands of corporations. These are not combat positions, but lawyers, clerks, accountants, etc. He says (well actually Rumsfeld says) that it is to save money, but I am hard put to believe it. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 05:51:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEBpj6f005602 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:51:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046C903@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 6:50:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3673540 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:50:17 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEBoHB11587 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:50:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.154]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114115159.VSGR24555.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:51:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD38DF3.8016928C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:50:11 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: quest for pounds References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113153421.00a00520@pop3.norton.antivirus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU bonniev wrote: > Great move, alyce! I have a friend in Wisconsin who volunteers a few > times a month to deliver meals. One time she realized that the person she I think I've mentioned before that a *94-yr-old* friend of mine is a meals-on-wheels deliverer, among many other civic and social activities. She also visits the sick and -- most of the elderly being young enough to be her children. She's amazing. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 05:51:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEBpl6f005605 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:51:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410EBE1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 6:50:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3673553 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:50:20 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEBoKB11601 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:50:20 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5K004VZE7VM7@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:50:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:51:33 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Blech To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD38E45.6010201@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But you were implying that the Mahoning Valley is now enjoying good times in relation. It isn't. The old timers are still sitting around talking abuot when the mills come back, and all the kids are still leaving. Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Perhaps we're talking past each other. My reference is to economic hard > times, specifically to the closing of all the steelmaking capacity in > Youngstown and Sharon. SHK. > > >> No. What war was going on then? I missed it. >> > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 05:52:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEBqq6f005611 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:52:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046C923@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 6:51:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3673582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:51:24 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEBpOB11648 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:51:24 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.154]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114115306.VSZP24555.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD38E36.6D25F409@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:51:18 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: No unborn children left behind, either References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113123048.02e350c0@mail.istori.com> <3DD2BB1D.A9D6BE8@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > The regulation went into effect November 1, 2002. > > Yup. I was surprised that so little notice was taken of it. Me too. I heard it discussed briefly on NPR when it happened but have heard/read little about it since then. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 05:55:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEBtc6f005629 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:55:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046C948@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 6:54:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3673637 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:54:11 -0500 Received: from imf13bis.bellsouth.net (mail313.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.173]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEBsBB11785 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:54:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.154]) by imf13bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114115553.VUSC24555.imf13bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:55:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD38EDD.957A5435@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:54:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021113215455.81B407C24@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I think the general public still believe it. Mainstream media mentions it > > so often I see no reason for people not to think it's true. > > Maybe it's my own blinders or the media here, but I haven't read/heard > anything to indicate that a war would invigorate the > economy--everything I've read suggests the opposite. Me too, except for some comment somewhere about how Dubya and his cronies are trying to suggest that it would help the economy -- said wherever it was I read it with an unbelieving tone. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 06:09:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEC9a6f005713 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:09:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410ECC5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 7:08:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674193 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:08:09 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail108.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEC89B28806 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:08:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.154]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114120951.LDNJ1193.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:09:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD39223.7EC8340@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:08:03 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113231441.B56247C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Natalie Maynor said: > > I'm finding this very confusing. I understand now (from what Steph > > wrote) how one might put empty hangers in places other than closets, but > > what I'm confused about is your clothes-storage system. Do you move > > clothes around from one closet or rod to another wantonly? I change > > them at season changes, which sometimes means changing them gradually > > when the weather is -- having a few coolish and a few > > warmish things in the same closet. But once the season is established, > > I keep the same things in the same closet -- like if I wash a blouse > > that lives on Rod X, the hanger stays on Rod X, where it is ready to > > receive the clean blouse when the blouse is ready to return to the > > closet. > > Thank you for your response. But you haven't answered my question about wanton clothes-shuffling. I'm still trying to figure out why your hangers take up more space when empty than when in use. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 06:44:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAECiZ6f005866 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:44:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046C98F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 7:00:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3673886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:00:59 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail108.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEC0xB27848 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:00:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.154]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114120241.KYPS1193.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:02:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD39074.ED51DD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:00:52 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113170339.00af6da8@mail.attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri wrote: > >Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm did not improve the economy. > > They were also 40-50+ years ago. > > When I learned about these wars in school the impact they had on the You learned about Desert Storm in school?? I realize you're young, but that young? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 06:44:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAECiZ6f005865 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:44:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046C9D4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 7:05:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674140 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:05:47 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail008.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEC5lB28559 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:05:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.154]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114120729.LBOH1193.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD39195.325620C2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:05:41 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Anybody remember where the Dow was when Alan > Greenspan made his "irrational exuberance" speech? For the record, it was > a little lower than it currently is. I thought his point was about its upward gallop. Iow, isn't the direction significant, not just the numbers? > Although war will divert resources > from other uses, which is not the same thing as re-igniting the economy, > its successful completion will reduce the uncertainty about > Islamo-fascists with their delightful tendency to kill themselves and take > others with them. Its successful completion??? What a good one! It's fun to have Steve of the Tacky Sail back. Wish I had more time this morning. Gotta rush onward though. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 06:44:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAECiZ6f005867 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:44:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046C9E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 7:06:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674166 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:06:54 -0500 Received: from imf08bis.bellsouth.net (mail108.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.48]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEC6sB28667 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:06:54 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.163.154]) by imf08bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114120836.LCJP1193.imf08bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:08:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD391D8.D417CC0D@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:06:48 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021113230530.BDD2A7C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I don't understand why'you asked this hanger question so far you've either > > disagreed with everything people have said or you've mocked them for their > > ways. > > Then I should say: thank you to everyone who responded. I do > appreciate it. (And I'm sorry if my teasing of stevie was too > heavy-handed.) I'm glad she asked it. It's an interesting survey. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 07:14:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEDEL6f006011 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:14:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046CE1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 8:12:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3677702 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:12:54 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDCrB04739 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:12:53 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY32JH8>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:12:59 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY32JH5; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:12:57 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114141103.030f9980@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:12:41 +0100 Subject: Procrastination In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am doing everything else but what I should do: write a paper. Some times that is a necessary stage before I start writing, and I hope it is so now as well. Instead of writing I have been playing around with my webpages and with my new domain: www.espenore.tk Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 07:19:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEDJf6f006054 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:19:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046CE92@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 8:18:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3678085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:14 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDIDB05609 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:14 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDICt22898 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:12 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081035.00b3b840@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:13:53 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <20021114040816.DC9FC7C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113224013.00b7ee88@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:08 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Ah. Except for the small furry animals, I put those things on the >island. I suppose that for me, it's a throwback to the days of lab. coats, which had pockets in which we carried all sorts of stuff. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 07:19:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEDJg6f006057 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:19:43 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046CE93@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 8:18:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3678089 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:15 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDIFB05614 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:15 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDIEt22902 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:14 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081436.00b39210@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:16:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <20021114041402.9F2997C12@yellow.rahul.net> References: <001c01c28b94$4b9e9560$930332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:14 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Is it elastic, or does it snap, or velcro, or it just a fixed, plain >loop of fabric? The last one---large enough to put a kitchen towel through it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 07:19:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEDJi6f006060 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:19:45 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410F1BB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 8:18:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3678093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:17 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDIGB05619 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:16 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDIFt22918 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:18:15 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081607.00b4aae8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:17:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <001501c28b94$3082e2e0$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223726.00a1e7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:13 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: >It's not stiff, just new, although it is a sturdy >fabric. Men's version will be larger. Maybe >it should have a zipper fly in the front? . I've never found that to be necessary or convenient---in fact, I've never seen an apron thus equipped. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 07:22:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEDM36f006073 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:22:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046CEC6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 8:20:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3678208 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:20:36 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDKZB05933 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:20:35 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDKYt23322 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:20:34 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081901.00b4bd08@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:20:28 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Procrastination In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114141103.030f9980@victoria.nb.no> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:12 PM 11/14/2002 +0100, espen wrote: >I am doing everything else but what I should do: write a paper. Some times >that is a necessary stage before I start writing, and I hope it is so now >as well. I know the feeling well. Here's hoping that the muse perches on your shoulder. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 07:39:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEDdN6f006187 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:39:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046D08B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 8:37:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3679375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:37:55 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEDbtB08345 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:37:55 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY32JNL>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:38:02 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY32JNK; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:37:58 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114143513.031c0c38@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:37:43 +0100 Subject: Re: Procrastination In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081901.00b4bd08@mail.panax.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114141103.030f9980@victoria.nb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:20 14.11.2002 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: >At 02:12 PM 11/14/2002 +0100, espen wrote: >>I am doing everything else but what I should do: write a paper. Some times >>that is a necessary stage before I start writing, and I hope it is so now >>as well. > >I know the feeling well. Here's hoping that the muse perches on your shoulder. Thank you. I feel more like building up a private Tokelau dictionary in Excel right now. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 08:02:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEE266f006320 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:02:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0410F6C3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 9:00:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3681434 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:00:38 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEE0cB12103 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:00:38 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18172 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 14 Nov 02 09:00:37 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 14 Nov 02 09:00:08 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:00:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Procrastination Message-ID: <3DD36615.26961.179777@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114141103.030f9980@victoria.nb.no> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I find that this process is often true for me when I write as well. I look at it as giving the ideas a chance to work in a different part of my brain. It's like setting the dough in a warm place to rise before the kneading and shaping takes place. Doing other things while that is happening is not only not procrastinating, but absolutely necessary to completing the task well. BrP > I am doing everything else but what I should do: write a paper. Some times > that is a necessary stage before I start writing, and I hope it is so now > as well. Instead of writing I have been playing around with my webpages > and with my new domain: www.espenore.tk > > Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 08:06:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEE6s6f006427 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:06:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046D367@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 9:05:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3681751 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:05:26 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEE5QB12734 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:05:26 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEE5PB15296 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:05:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003301c28be7$24ee52e0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223726.00a1e7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081607.00b4aae8@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:07:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 10:13 PM 11/13/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: > > >It's not stiff, just new, although it is a sturdy > >fabric. Men's version will be larger. Maybe > >it should have a zipper fly in the front? > > . > I've never found that to be necessary or convenient---in fact, I've never > seen an apron thus equipped. > > cwv That's why it would be an "original." A joke gift, sorta. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 08:12:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEECV6f006443 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:12:31 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046D439@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 9:11:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3682382 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:11:03 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEEB2B13774 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:11:02 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEEB2B20719 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:11:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003c01c28be7$ed5a0080$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD36615.26961.179777@localhost> Subject: Re: Re: Procrastination Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:12:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > I find that this process is often true for me when I write as well. I look at it as giving > the ideas a chance to work in a different part of my brain. It's like setting the dough > in a warm place to rise before the kneading and shaping takes place. Doing other > things while that is happening is not only not procrastinating, but absolutely > necessary to completing the task well. > > BrP > I like that. This is what I had to do in the years I wrote on assignment for Hallmark, with deadlines. An idea wouldn't jel if I thought about it constantly. Had to put it in the oven to rise. - D. M. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 08:16:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEEGH6f006478 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:16:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046D4CE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 9:14:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3682923 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:14:49 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEEEnB14943 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:14:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEEEmt00979 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:14:48 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114090756.00b5b358@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:08:47 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: WHTM at the store In-Reply-To: <003301c28be7$24ee52e0$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223726.00a1e7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081607.00b4aae8@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:07 AM 11/14/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: >That's why it would be an "original." >A joke gift, sorta. Ah. In that case, why not a zipper with no opening behind it? cwv > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 08:24:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEEOd6f006507 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:24:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046D5C4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 9:23:10 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3683680 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:23:11 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEENBB16306 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:23:11 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEEN9t02675 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:23:09 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114091504.00b54b68@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:23:04 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Procrastination In-Reply-To: <003c01c28be7$ed5a0080$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD36615.26961.179777@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 08:12 AM 11/14/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: > > I find that this process is often true for me when I write as well. I >look at it as giving > > the ideas a chance to work in a different part of my brain. It's like >setting the dough > > in a warm place to rise before the kneading and shaping takes place. >Doing other > > things while that is happening is not only not procrastinating, but >absolutely > > necessary to completing the task well. > > > > BrP > > >I like that. This is what I had to do in the >years I wrote on assignment for Hallmark, >with deadlines. An idea wouldn't jel if I >thought about it constantly. Had to put >it in the oven to rise. When I was teaching my short course in "Writing for Scientific Publication," I said that there were two basic ways to write: (1) Think before you write and (2) Write before you think. The first is apparently how (with some variations), you, Espen, Paul, and I approach it. The second is helpful for some people, i.e., to get all of the ideas/data/information onto the paper or the disk as quickly as possible. The difference is that in approach 2, the writer must be willing to perform major surgery before anyone else sees the draft. Very often when given short-fuse writing assignments in TVA, the first thing I would do is go for a walk. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 08:43:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEEhe6f006579 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:43:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046D81F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 9:42:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685830 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:42:11 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEEgBB19800 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:42:11 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY32JYZ>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:42:18 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY32JYY; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:42:13 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114154123.031b43c8@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:41:55 +0100 Subject: Re: Procrastination In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114091504.00b54b68@mail.panax.com> References: <003c01c28be7$ed5a0080$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD36615.26961.179777@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:23 14.11.2002 -0500 skrev clyde w. voigtlander: Very often when given short-fuse writing assignments in TVA, the first >thing I would do is go for a walk. Sounds like a very good idea. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 08:45:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEEjJ6f006609 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:45:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046D865@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 9:43:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3686028 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:43:51 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEEhpB20175 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:43:51 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY32JZ1>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:43:58 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY32JZB; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:43:50 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114154312.031a8a18@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:43:31 +0100 Subject: Re: great-aunt again In-Reply-To: <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 08:59 13.11.2002 -0500 skrev alyce cresap: >No. 9 arrived last night--Josephine. Wonder where they got that. Not a >family name and rather rare these days. But a refreshing change from >Britney and the like, I guess. Congratulations! Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 09:10:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEFAO6f006772 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:10:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041101EC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:08:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688847 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:08:51 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEF8pB24692 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:08:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust61.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.63]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:08:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3BD1A.B106AB2A@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:11:22 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever References: <200211140131.gAE1VeB15201@listserv.cc.uga.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:31:25 -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: > > >Pimped it all the way to senior liberrian baby ... > > > >http://www.popcap.com/gamepopup.php?theGame=bookworm Waited a long time for it to load, and finally I got "Javascript error" and it stopped. sigh. A Sign, no doubt, that I should work, not play. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 09:14:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEFEY6f006801 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:14:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04110280@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:13:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3689270 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:13:04 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEFD4B25469 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:13:04 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust61.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.63]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:12:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:15:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: You Are s Suspect Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU You Are a Suspect By WILLIAM SAFIRE http://tinyurl.com/2p18 WASHINGTON — If the Homeland Security Act is not amended before passage, here is what will happen to you: Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine subscription you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit and e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade you receive, every bank deposit you make, every trip you book and every event you attend — all these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense Department describes as "a virtual, centralized grand database." -- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 10:32:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEGWk6f007376 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:32:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046E73F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:16 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3699071 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:16 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEGVDB10467 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEGVCB02729 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:31:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000401c28bfb$81e33b00$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113223726.00a1e7f0@pop3.norton.antivirus> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114081607.00b4aae8@mail.panax.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114090756.00b5b358@mail.panax.com> Subject: Re: Re: WHTM at the store Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:33:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > At 08:07 AM 11/14/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: > > >That's why it would be an "original." > >A joke gift, sorta. > > Ah. In that case, why not a zipper with no opening behind it? > > cwv Good idea. And it's also much easier. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 10:34:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEGYB6f007392 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:34:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046E76B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:32:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3698110 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:32:43 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEGMhB08489 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:22:43 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAEGMdTC001743 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:22:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:22:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Gone! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I am having to delete and set nomail - I have too much to do before my flight to NYC in the a.m. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 10:49:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEGn76f007454 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:49:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046EA81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:47:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3702455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:47:38 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEGlcB13733 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:47:38 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEGlbB23604 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:47:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:49:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > You Are a Suspect > By WILLIAM SAFIRE > http://tinyurl.com/2p18 > > WASHINGTON - If the Homeland Security Act is not amended before passage, > here is what will happen to you: > > > Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine subscription > you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit and > e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade you receive, every bank > deposit you make, every trip you book and every event you attend - all > these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense > Department describes as "a virtual, centralized grand database." > -- > alyce As with everything, there are both negatives and positives. See the following article. If I had been royally ripped off I would be glad there were data bases that could help to locate the scamster. http://makeashorterlink.com/?K32421372 - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 10:58:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEGws6f007480 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:58:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046EB9A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:57:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3702452 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:57:25 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Cg6ulxhYmQr0Tf9kMVCI2bteWkm0BpnG@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEGlPB13714 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:47:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884452FEA1 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:47:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 4D0487C12; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:47:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD348A3.AA23C06E@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 14, 2002 1:54:27 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:47:24 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114164724.4D0487C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > He needs really a lot of nudges. Free trade is but one. In this week > alone, and it's only Thursday, he has had wolves taken off the protected > species list, allowed more snowmobiles to pollute Yellowstone with noise > and fumes, I thought that he also increased the number of visitors allowed, not just snowmobiles? (I could be wrong--I thought I heard this on the radio in the car.) Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:09:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEH9f6f007549 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:09:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046ECC7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:08:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3703150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:08:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:h5ACnZJUZA01U7zsOYmNwdEmQbygpbnp@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEGwCB15375 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:58:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1A62FE31 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 942917C12; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:58:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Procrastination In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114091504.00b54b68@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 14, 2002 9:23: 4 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 08:58:11 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114165811.942917C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > When I was teaching my short course in "Writing for Scientific > Publication," I said that there were two basic ways to write: (1) Think > before you write and (2) Write before you think. The first is apparently > how (with some variations), you, Espen, Paul, and I approach it. The > second is helpful for some people, i.e., to get all of the > ideas/data/information onto the paper or the disk as quickly as > possible. The difference is that in approach 2, the writer must be willing > to perform major surgery before anyone else sees the draft. I think I have done both of these. I think I do #1 if what I'm writing is relatively short. #2, though, involves either writing on paper, or opening up a file I won't keep, a scratch file, as it were. Sometimes I pretend it is the real file, sometimes I don't. This is also what I do when I get stuck. > Very often when given short-fuse writing assignments in TVA, the first > thing I would do is go for a walk. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:13:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHDG6f007566 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:13:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046ED33@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:11:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3703337 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:11:47 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HDYpNcwr9BOEY8u81z0wYsPSZ1nDH5Mi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEH1kB15852 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:01:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EABB2FE31 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D55167C14; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:01:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <3DD3BD1A.B106AB2A@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 14, 2002 10:11:22 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:01:45 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114170145.D55167C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Waited a long time for it to load, and finally I got "Javascript error" > and it stopped. sigh. > > A Sign, no doubt, that I should work, not play. I have NEVER zoned out when playing a game like that before. I completely lost track of time and place. I'm staying away from this. But I do wonder what comes after Senior Librarian.... Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:13:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHDe6f007569 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:13:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04111780@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:12:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3703969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:12:11 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHCBB17537 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:12:11 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust110.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.112]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:12:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:14:56 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > You Are a Suspect > > By WILLIAM SAFIRE > > http://tinyurl.com/2p18 > > > > WASHINGTON - If the Homeland Security Act is not amended before > passage, > > here is what will happen to you: > > > > > > Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine > subscription > > you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit > and > > e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade you receive, every > bank > > deposit you make, every trip you book and every event you attend - all > > these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense > > Department describes as "a virtual, centralized grand database." > > -- > > alyce > > As with everything, there are both negatives > and positives. See the following article. > If I had been royally ripped off I would > be glad there were data bases that could help > to locate the scamster. Yes, but the post office inspectors are collecting details on suspected thieves, not everyone and certainly not little children, noting their report card grades. Apples and oranges. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:29:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHT86f007633 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:29:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0411195D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:27:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705696 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:27:38 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHRcB21922 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:27:38 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEHRbB12333 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:27:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> Subject: Re: Re: You Are s Suspect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:29:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > Yes, but the post office inspectors are collecting details on suspected > thieves, not everyone and certainly not little children, noting their > report card grades. Apples and oranges. > > alyce I guess I can't really relate to your fear. They can collect all the information on me that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:31:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHVL6f007662 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046EFBD@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:29:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3705878 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:29:52 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHTqB22467 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:29:52 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust110.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.112]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:29:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3DE2F.D584A745@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:31 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021114164724.4D0487C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I thought that he also increased the number of visitors allowed, not > just snowmobiles? (I could be wrong- Yes, you could be. Clinton signed an order that would have banned them entirely by next winter. Bush's decision is to have no limits till March, then limited, but they play with numbers, so that there can be more in one place than another. ANd then they have rules about 80% of snowmobilers have a guide, whatever that proves. It's all here: http://tinyurl.com/2p7z alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:32:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHWq6f007672 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:32:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046EFF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706015 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:22 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHVMB22809 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:22 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHVKt09390 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114122855.00b61c88@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:30:03 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <20021114170145.D55167C14@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD3BD1A.B106AB2A@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:01 AM 11/14/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >I have NEVER zoned out when playing a game like that before. I >completely lost track of time and place. I'm staying away from this. > >But I do wonder what comes after Senior Librarian.... I made Archivist (level 9 or 10---200K points). cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:34:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHYQ6f007684 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:34:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046F02C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706090 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:57 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHWvB23076 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:57 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust110.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.112]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3DEED.B9073416@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:41 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > > > > Yes, but the post office inspectors are collecting details on > suspected > > thieves, not everyone and certainly not little children, noting their > > report card grades. Apples and oranges. > > > > alyce > > I guess I can't really relate to your fear. > They can collect all the information on me > that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. > Not now. But of course if someone decides that it is anti-government to have used ebay, they will have you. Or, The Catcher in the Rye is subversive, and you've read it, it says here on your dossier. The whole point is that they are changing laws, collecting information, and I fear that ex post facto doings are on the way. I do not trust the people in charge any more. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:39:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHdA6f007701 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:39:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046F0C0@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:37:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706454 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:37:41 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHbfB23983 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:37:41 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18CNvO-0006so-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:37:07 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114093116.02ce7260@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:37:25 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gAEHbfB23984 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >I haven't done anything wrong. The concern is that even if you've done nothing wrong, when data is collected (perhaps with errors), collated and then interpreted in a different context, the result may be bad assumptions about you. Excerpted from : Privacy and civil liberties advocates are often asked, "what are you afraid of; what do you have to hide; if you haven’t done anything wrong, what’s there to worry about?" The sentiment behind these questions is that the data being compiled is benign and is not going to harm us. But as law professor Jeffrey Rosen points out in his 2000 book The Unwanted Gaze, you are not your profile. Databases can contain errors. And data compiled from disparate sources and from differing contexts can lead the user to arrive at the wrong conclusions. (The Unwanted Gaze: The Destruction of Privacy in America, by Jeffrey Rosen, Random House, 2000) [W]hen intimate information is removed from its original context and revealed to strangers, we are vulnerable to being misjudged on the basis of our most embarrassing, and therefore most memorable, tastes and preferences. (p.9) He used the 1998 subpoena by prosecutor Kenneth Starr of Monica Lewinski’s book purchases from a Washington, D.C., bookstore as an example of how profiling can harm individuals. This occurred during the Clinton administration sex scandal. Rosen states: Privacy protects us from being misdefined and judged out of context in a world of short attention spans, a world in which information can easily be confused with knowledge. (p.8) Here is another story to illustrate the potential harm of untrammeled data collection and profiling. In 1998 the Salt Lake Tribune reported that the supermarket chain Smith’s Foods was subpoenaed by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) for its discount card data on several named suspects. Was the DEA looking for high-volume purchases of non-prescription medicines that make up the chemical formula for "speed," like Sudafed? No. They were interested in finding out if these individuals had purchased a lot of plastic "baggies," the presumption being that if you’re manufacturing and selling "meth," you will need plastic bags to package it in. This story should alarm each of us. How many situations can we think of where someone might buy many "baggies" – the parent who wraps school lunches for a large family, the Girl Scout troop leader who makes sandwiches for the girls’ outings, the jewelry maker who sells her creations at weekend arts fairs. Yet, if law enforcement were to request supermarket discount card data for "fishing trips," without court-ordered warrants -- something far more likely in the post-9-11 era of weakened checks and balances -- many individuals would be on the suspects list, most if not all of whom would not be drug dealers. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:42:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHgf6f007715 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:42:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04111A9B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:41:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706008 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:41:11 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:BSClSdD2M0g3ynu2eDi7MelIvWDI2eT0@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHVBB22793 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:11 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E032FDCD for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 868B87C18; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:31:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 14, 2002 11:29:29 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:31:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114173110.868B87C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > I guess I can't really relate to your fear. > They can collect all the information on me > that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. Whether one has done anything wrong is not the issue. It's whether one can be perceived to have done anything wrong. Remember Richard Jewell? He hadn't done anything wrong. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:43:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHhP6f007726 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:43:26 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04111AAA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:41:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706701 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:41:56 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (daemon@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHfuB24553 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:41:56 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18); id gAEHceb18669 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:38:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:38:43 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200211141738.gAEHceb18669@Ra.MsState.Edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Words Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Help me think of a slang word that means pretty much the opposite now of what it meant in the '50s. And can you think of any words that have become obsolescent in the past forty or so years? Words/terms that would have been ordinary and unobscure to a typical college student of 1960 or so but would be little known, if known at all, by a typical college student of today? "Slide rule" is a possibility, I guess. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:44:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHi56f007731 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:44:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046F165@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:42:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:42:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:t2SGj8N/qwScn0spu/flIszd/40Qxzwx@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHWYB23028 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:34 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDB52FF61 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 063467C16; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:32:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD3DE2F.D584A745@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 14, 2002 12:32:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:32:33 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114173233.063467C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Yes, you could be. Clinton signed an order that would have banned them > entirely by next winter. Yep. > Bush's decision is to have no limits till > March, then limited, but they play with numbers, so that there can be > more in one place than another. Take heart: in a while, the park will be so overused that no one will want to visit it. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:46:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHki6f007762 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:46:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046F1B1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:45:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3706294 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:45:14 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHZDB23592 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:13 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAEHZDsV025457 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:35:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021114095230.00a53ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:52:45 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: Procrastination In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114141103.030f9980@victoria.nb.no> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 02:12 PM 11/14/2002 +0100, you wrote: >I am doing everything else but what I should do: write a paper. Some times >that is a necessary stage before I start writing, and I hope it is so now >as well. Instead of writing I have been playing around with my webpages >and with my new domain: www.espenore.tk > >Espen Great photos! What is the name of the Indian? Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 11:52:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEHqt6f007781 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:52:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04111BA3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:51:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3707624 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:51:22 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHpMB27475 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:51:22 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHpKt14051 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:51:20 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114123207.00b62f48@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:51:14 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 11:29 AM 11/14/2002 -0600, d.m. wrote: >I guess I can't really relate to your fear. >They can collect all the information on me >that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. The fear (anxiety might be a better term for now) is tied up with gets to determine whether or not you've done anything wrong as well as who gets to define what is . Granted, various levels and branches of government various entities in the private sector have been collecting information on us for perhaps longer than we think. One safety factor thusfar (for we civilians) is that the information/data bases have been scattered, fragmented, and not widely shared. With the passage of the Homeland Security Act and the establishment of the MInistry of Internal Security, that could change. Although my guess is that the dreams of one universal, integrated data base are a bit optimistic in the short run, it could happen. At that point, all of the cross-correlation and other games could be played (under rules established by Heinrich er, John Ashcroft and others of his ilk). Then you have profiling. I haven't seen much discussion at the national level of any built-in protections. As for what might be unconstitutional, hell---this administration has shown little interest in constitutional protections except for Amendment 2 (and my guess is that that is simply a sop to pacify people until the Ministry hits its stride). And if you are reading this, Mr. DeLay, I don't much like the horse you rode in on, either. cwv > From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:04:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEI446f007850 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:04:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04111D79@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:02:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3707762 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:02:35 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f141.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.141]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHqZB27726 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:52:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:52:29 -0800 Received: from 204.184.92.1 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:52:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.184.92.1] From: "Rita Rouvalis" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Grande Databases Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:52:29 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2002 17:52:29.0687 (UTC) FILETIME=[99BE4070:01C28C06] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This is good news! There's so much info sitting in databases they can't sift through it all as it is. Add all that meaningless crap, and our privacy is virtually guaranteed. -- Rita C. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:07:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEI766f007859 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:07:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046F483@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:05:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3709969 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:05:33 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEI5XB31438 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:05:33 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA12929 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:05:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A69E438699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:05:32 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:05:32 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever Message-ID: <20021114180532.GA26101@pobox.com> References: <3DD3BD1A.B106AB2A@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114122855.00b61c88@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114122855.00b61c88@mail.panax.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:30:03PM -0500, clyde w. voigtlander wrote: > At 09:01 AM 11/14/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > > >I have NEVER zoned out when playing a game like that before. I > >completely lost track of time and place. I'm staying away from this. > > > >But I do wonder what comes after Senior Librarian.... > > I made Archivist (level 9 or 10---200K points). They do egg you on don't they. I mean who wouldn't want to be "Archivist", it's every little kid's dream. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:08:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEI8B6f007867 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:08:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04111EE4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:06:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3708615 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:06:42 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:3tGN/kYRPSHI+/IJ2ljIpncGv5zE2DVN@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEHufB29240 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:56:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290A7300EA for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id F1E737C11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:56:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The saddest web game ever In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114122855.00b61c88@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 14, 2002 12:30: 3 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:56:40 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114175640.F1E737C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > At 09:01 AM 11/14/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > > >I have NEVER zoned out when playing a game like that before. I > >completely lost track of time and place. I'm staying away from this. > > > >But I do wonder what comes after Senior Librarian.... > > I made Archivist (level 9 or 10---200K points). Hot damn! I have no idea how many points I got, but less than 200K. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:16:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIGN6f007902 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:16:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046F60B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:14:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712007 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:14:54 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIEsB01876 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:14:54 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA18653 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:14:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6A62338699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:14:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:14:53 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: great-aunt again Message-ID: <20021114181453.GB26101@pobox.com> References: <3DD25ACC.29B72FD1@valstar.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20021114154312.031a8a18@victoria.nb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114154312.031a8a18@victoria.nb.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > >No. 9 arrived last night--Josephine. Wonder where they got that. Not a > >family name and rather rare these days. But a refreshing change from > >Britney and the like, I guess. The going names are Madison and Hailey. What could possibly be the reason for them? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:21:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIL06f007914 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:21:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046F69C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:19:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3712392 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:19:31 -0500 Received: from fido.kiva.net (fido.kiva.net [216.9.137.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAEIJUB02798 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:19:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 11185 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 18:19:30 -0000 Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by fido.kiva.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 18:19:30 -0000 Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 380ED34F11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3730F2D643 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:19:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:19:30 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <200211141738.gAEHceb18669@Ra.MsState.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Well, there's always "bad," in the slang sense of "good," as well as "radical" or "rad." What about "jazzed" -- if something is jazzed it is screwed up, messed up, kaput. I don't know how long that usage has been around. -- Take care, Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net) Send me, won't you send me On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Help me think of a slang word that means pretty much the opposite > now of what it meant in the '50s. And can you think of any words > that have become obsolescent in the past forty or so years? Words/terms > that would have been ordinary and unobscure to a typical college student > of 1960 or so but would be little known, if known at all, by a typical > college student of today? "Slide rule" is a possibility, I guess. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:33:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIX26f007967 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:33:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046F7FE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:31:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3713609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:31:32 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIVWB05473 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:31:32 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA29752 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B74CD38699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:31:31 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Message-ID: <20021114183131.GC26101@pobox.com> References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:49:30AM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > > You Are a Suspect > > By WILLIAM SAFIRE > > http://tinyurl.com/2p18 > > > > WASHINGTON - If the Homeland Security Act is not amended before > > passage, here is what will happen to you: > > > > > > Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine subscription > > you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit and > > e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade you receive, every bank > > deposit you make, every trip you book and every event you attend - all > > these transactions and communications will go into what the Defense > > Department describes as "a virtual, centralized grand database." > > As with everything, there are both negatives > and positives. See the following article. > If I had been royally ripped off I would > be glad there were data bases that could help > to locate the scamster. > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?K32421372 Stories like this just say "databases" can be good. What databases, how good, etc is left unstated. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:34:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIYf6f007986 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:34:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046F831@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:33:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3713720 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:33:11 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIXBB05716 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:33:11 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEIXAB01742 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:33:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000e01c28c0c$8be2fbc0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114093116.02ce7260@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: You Are s Suspect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Here is another story to illustrate the potential harm of untrammeled data > collection and profiling. > > In 1998 the Salt Lake Tribune reported that the supermarket chain Smith's > Foods was subpoenaed by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) for its > discount card data on several named suspects. Was the DEA looking for > high-volume purchases of non-prescription medicines that make up the > chemical formula for "speed," like Sudafed? No. They were interested in > finding out if these individuals had purchased a lot of plastic "baggies," > the presumption being that if you're manufacturing and selling "meth," you > will need plastic bags to package it in. > > This story should alarm each of us. How many situations can we think of > where someone might buy many "baggies" - the parent who wraps school > lunches for a large family, the Girl Scout troop leader who makes > sandwiches for the girls' outings, the jewelry maker who sells her > creations at weekend arts fairs. Yet, if law enforcement were to request > supermarket discount card data for "fishing trips," without court-ordered > warrants -- something far more likely in the post-9-11 era of weakened > checks and balances -- many individuals would be on the suspects list, most > if not all of whom would not be drug dealers. > > Pete Again I see the glass half full. If my kids school was rampant with drugs and the culprit could be found because records showed he was a large purchaser of plastic bags I'd be delighted. If the record showed I was also a large user of plastic bags because I use them for my rummage sales, and if it put me on some kind of list, I could be easily checked out and I don't see the harm. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:35:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIZr6f007991 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046F84A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:34:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3713777 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:34:23 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIYNB05830 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:34:23 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEIYMB02901 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:34:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001501c28c0c$b671c240$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021114173110.868B87C18@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: You Are s Suspect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:36:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Doris Markland said: > > I guess I can't really relate to your fear. > > They can collect all the information on me > > that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. > > Whether one has done anything wrong is not the issue. It's whether one > can be perceived to have done anything wrong. Remember Richard Jewell? > He hadn't done anything wrong. > > Karen I don't remember now why he was chosen as a suspect, but I don't think it was because of a large government database. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:36:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIau6f008001 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:36:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0046F86C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:35:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3713859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:35:26 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIZQB06014 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:35:26 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA01835 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 73A8A38699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:35:25 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Message-ID: <20021114183525.GD26101@pobox.com> References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:29:29AM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > I guess I can't really relate to your fear. They can collect > all the information on me that they want. I haven't done > anything wrong. Apart from you and Natalie, everyone has done hundreds of wrong things. They--the morally dubious characters--are the ones who live in fear. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:41:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIfX6f008009 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:41:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046F90E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:40:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3714240 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:40:03 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIe3B06852 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:40:03 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA04039 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:40:02 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 6D4C938699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:40:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:40:02 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Message-ID: <20021114184002.GE26101@pobox.com> References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114093116.02ce7260@mail.istori.com> <000e01c28c0c$8be2fbc0$930332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000e01c28c0c$8be2fbc0$930332d1@0018079268> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 12:35:02PM -0600, Doris Markland wrote: > Again I see the glass half full. If my kids school was > rampant with drugs and the culprit could be found > because records showed he was a large purchaser > of plastic bags I'd be delighted. If the record showed > I was also a large user of plastic bags because I use > them for my rummage sales, and if it put me on some > kind of list, I could be easily checked out and I don't > see the harm. It's refreshing to see trust in the power and accuracy of databases, the "ease of checking out" innocents, the moral rectitude of drug warriors etc. I hope I get it when I am older and wiser. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:48:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEImH6f008046 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:48:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0411244F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:46:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3713976 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:46:48 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:M1YjJO1HpD9YxAke7Gnxx59PvLt09MIz@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIamB06237 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:36:48 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7461A2FE56 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 23D4F7C14; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:36:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <001501c28c0c$b671c240$930332d1@0018079268> from Doris Markland at "Nov 14, 2002 12:36:14 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:36:46 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114183647.23D4F7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland said: > > Doris Markland said: > > > I guess I can't really relate to your fear. > > > They can collect all the information on me > > > that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. > > > > Whether one has done anything wrong is not the issue. It's whether one > > can be perceived to have done anything wrong. Remember Richard Jewell? > > He hadn't done anything wrong. > > > > Karen > > I don't remember now why he was chosen as a > suspect, but I don't think it was because of a > large government database. No--but such a database increases the chances that you and I will be singled out. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 12:54:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEIsY6f008081 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:54:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046FAF6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:53:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3715468 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:53:04 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIqxB08910 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:52:59 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id MAA10355 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:52:59 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id EB7F738699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:52:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:52:58 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases Message-ID: <20021114185258.GF26101@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:52:29AM -0600, Rita Rouvalis wrote: > This is good news! There's so much info sitting in databases they > can't sift through it all as it is. Add all that meaningless crap, > and our privacy is virtually guaranteed. You have Failed to Understand [tm]. If you are being hassled because The Database Said So, will you have a beatific smile on your face because they are hassling you for the wrong reasons? That your soul is spotless and your actual privacy remains protected? This amazes me as much as people who have done no wrong ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:10:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJAe6f008175 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:10:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046FCEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:10 -0500 Received: from koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (koi.isc-net.upenn.edu [128.91.3.17]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJ9AB11712 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:10 -0500 Received: from pobox.upenn.edu (POBOX.UPENN.EDU [128.91.2.38]) by koi.isc-net.upenn.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAEJ9649444839 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from isc.upenn.edu (eagle-72.ular.upenn.edu [128.91.48.72]) by pobox.upenn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC37A510 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3DD3F4D1.6040609@isc.upenn.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:05 -0500 From: "Alec D. Plotkin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: WHTM at the store References: <3DD27EB5.29B0BDDB@valstar.net> <20021113151530.34A237C10@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.1.5.2.20021113134243.00a9d9a0@uclink.berkeley.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113174248.009e6590@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD2DA48.24F85A6D@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > bonniev wrote: > > >>>>I remember you buying an apron but I forgot what it looks like. Is >>>>that the only thing he wears? Betty >>> >>He has something on underneath. > > > Never fry bacon in the nude. > > JMW Not a thought or a picture I need while eating lunch. alec ------ Alec D. Plotkin plotkina@isc.upenn.edu ‘‘Never could any increase of comfort or security be a sufficient good to be bought at the price of liberty.’’ - Hilaire Belloc From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:11:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJB46f008179 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:11:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0046FCF4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3715904 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:34 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f227.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.227]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEIxXB09935 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:59:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:59:27 -0800 Received: from 204.184.92.1 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:59:27 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.184.92.1] From: "Rita Rouvalis" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Grande Databases Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:59:27 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2002 18:59:27.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[F48CEE30:01C28C0F] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Actually, I'm hoping to be lost in the glut, not hassled at all. It is all well and good when old, retired grandmas aren't worried about being wrongfully profiled -- what have you got to lose anyway? You might get shunned at bingo. However, if I got profiled because I bought all those baggies at Schnucks, my job would be on the line. Nobody wants a suspected anything teaching school -- and let's face it, I have a well recorded as far as the government is concerned. I've not done anything wrong, but others might not see it that way. -- Rita C. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:11:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJBB6f008182 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:11:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046FCF9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:41 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3716871 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJ9fB11794 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:41 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust110.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.112]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:09:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3F598.8EFE5777@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:12:24 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: words Subject: You are a SUspect Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU This from a Canadian on my other favorite list: Here in Canada, a new airport security measure has been instituted to record every passenger, where they are seated, how they paid for the ticket, where they went, when they returned, who they might have associated with on the plane. This information is being shared among all government departments. It was implemented as a so-called "counter terrorism" measure, but it is being used for other purposes. It was noted yesterday that since the system went into effect, not one terrorist has been caught, but Canadians have been nailed for tax offenses, have been interrogated about why they made two trips to Colombia in the last year (gotta be suspicious, cannot possibly be because you have family there or have business interests other than illegal drug shipments), or how they paid for two trips to Europe when Canada's tax sleuths know that you only make $50,000 a year. ------------- alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:12:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJCl6f008187 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:12:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046FD41@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:11:17 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJBGB12184 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:11:16 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust110.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.112]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:11:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD3F5EC.A9D31937@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:13:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114093116.02ce7260@mail.istori.com> <000e01c28c0c$8be2fbc0$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: If the record showed > I was also a large user of plastic bags because I use > them for my rummage sales, and if it put me on some > kind of list, I could be easily checked out and I don't > see the harm. Except that the DEA often does not just "check you out." They break down your door in the middle of the night. Wrong person? Ooops. Sorry. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:21:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJL36f008227 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:21:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0046FE71@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:19:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717684 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:19:33 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJJXB13566 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:19:33 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18CPVz-0004m7-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:18:59 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114105033.02c15110@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:19:18 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <000e01c28c0c$8be2fbc0$930332d1@0018079268> References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114093116.02ce7260@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >if it put me on some kind of list, I could be easily checked out and I >don't see the harm. So you may be more conveniently checked out, USA PATRIOT Act Section 213 provides for "sneak and peek" search and seizure of any property or material *before* notice is given: (b) DELAY - With respect to the issuance of any warrant or court order under this section, or any other rule of law, to search for and seize any property or material that constitutes evidence of a criminal offense in violation of the laws of the United States, any notice required, or that may be required, to be given may be delayed if -- (1) the court finds reasonable cause to believe that providing immediate notification of the execution of the warrant may have an adverse result (as defined in section 2705); (2) the warrant prohibits the seizure of any tangible property, any wire or electronic communication (as defined in section 2510), or, except as expressly provided in chapter 121, any stored wire or electronic information, except where the court finds reasonable necessity for the seizure; and (3) the warrant provides for the giving of such notice within a reasonable period of its execution, which period may thereafter be extended by the court for good cause shown. Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:24:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJOq6f008240 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:24:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04112959@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:23:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:23:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:X4hEciloH3GIOoViW0T0GgXwElE5vEaD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJDLB12523 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:13:21 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11254300FA for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D4E927C11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:13:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD3F5EC.A9D31937@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 14, 2002 2:13:48 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:13:20 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114191320.D4E927C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Doris Markland wrote: If the record showed > > I was also a large user of plastic bags because I use > > them for my rummage sales, and if it put me on some > > kind of list, I could be easily checked out and I don't > > see the harm. > > Except that the DEA often does not just "check you out." They break down > your door in the middle of the night. Wrong person? Ooops. Sorry. And sometimes it's "Sorry for your loss" to the relatives... And they don't have to give back the stuff they confiscated as part of RICO. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:31:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJVa6f008273 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:31:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04112A1D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:30:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3717728 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:30:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:5JanlxJorgB2cSSYE+M+HEyH/riLlcKJ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJK6B13684 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:20:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B0A30105 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 8AAC47C11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <200211141738.gAEHceb18669@Ra.MsState.Edu> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 11:38:43 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:20:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Help me think of a slang word that means pretty much the opposite > now of what it meant in the '50s. Bad? > And can you think of any words > that have become obsolescent in the past forty or so years? Gay in the sense of 'happily excited'. > Words/terms > that would have been ordinary and unobscure to a typical college student > of 1960 or so but would be little known, if known at all, by a typical > college student of today? "Slide rule" is a possibility, I guess. But it's the object that's largely unknown. What about starch? Especially the starched petticoats or whatever you called 'em that you couldn't do without on your first trip to New York? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:43:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJhR6f008314 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:43:28 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04112B56@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:41:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3718622 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:41:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:YVmqMcgacbIZMdVxsB36E8NcQJMAuNJY@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJVvB15765 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:31:57 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F0130112 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 65B1B7C14; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Nov 14, 2002 11:20: 5 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:56 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay said: > Natalie Maynor said: > > Help me think of a slang word that means pretty much the opposite > > now of what it meant in the '50s. > > Bad? > > > And can you think of any words > > that have become obsolescent in the past forty or so years? > > Gay in the sense of 'happily excited'. > > > Words/terms > > that would have been ordinary and unobscure to a typical college student > > of 1960 or so but would be little known, if known at all, by a typical > > college student of today? "Slide rule" is a possibility, I guess. > > But it's the object that's largely unknown. Typewriter would be another one of the same category. > What about starch? Especially the starched petticoats or whatever you > called 'em that you couldn't do without on your first trip to New York? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:45:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJjW6f008348 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:45:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00470189@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:44:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3719609 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:44:02 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJi1B18155 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:44:01 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17287 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 14 Nov 02 14:44:00 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 14 Nov 02 14:43:17 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:43:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Words Message-ID: <3DD3B67C.1121.10F27074@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Nov 14, 2002 11:20: 5 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and carbon paper > > But it's the object that's largely unknown. > > Typewriter would be another one of the same category. > > > What about starch? Especially the starched petticoats or whatever you > > called 'em that you couldn't do without on your first trip to New York? > > Karen > "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that > some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, > then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. > There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:57:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJvL6f008394 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:57:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04112D87@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:55:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3719730 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:55:51 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:wkKhlblMF5N2xyxUQSnpAPoLJ0fFEorH@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJjoB18414 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:45:50 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0EB2FE85 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:45:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0B2AA7C16; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:45:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD3B67C.1121.10F27074@localhost> from "Paul R. Barfoot" at "Nov 14, 2002 2:43: 9 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:45:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114194550.0B2AA7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot said: > and carbon paper Yes! Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 13:59:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEJxq6f008404 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:59:52 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0047039A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:58:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3721129 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:58:22 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEJwLB20548 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:58:21 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust181.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.183]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:58:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD400F4.C5EF3CA4@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:00:52 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: What a great movie! References: <3DD3191B.E66ECBF8@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > Where *were* the dogs while Robbie and Sam were both gone, btw? Furbabies alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:06:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEK686f008448 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:06:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00470469@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:04:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3721748 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:04:38 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEK4EB21771 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:04:14 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18CQDD-0007au-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:03:40 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114120338.035c86c0@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:03:59 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD3B67C.1121.10F27074@localhost> References: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Paul R. Barfoot writes, >and carbon paper Mimeograph. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:41:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKfu6f008627 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:41:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00470898@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:25 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h007.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAEKePB29085 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:25 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9128 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 12:40:23 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.122) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 12:40:23 -0800 X-Sent: 14 Nov 2002 20:40:23 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114101453.00aa2e60@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:17:22 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <3DD2AF86.67A2983D@valstar.net> References: <7e.31002450.2b0406aa@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:01 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, alyce cresap wrote: >Evelyn Duncan wrote: > > > > I have a question about joint tenancy (where two or more people > > equally co-own real property, and if one dies, all of the property > > goes to the surviving co-owners): let's say that two people are > > joint tenants and they both die, who gets the property? > > >These people should make a will so it goes to whomever they choose. > >alyce A will still has to go through probate. If you want to avoid probate you have to have a trust. A revokable trust is one kind I know of that will make sure what you want goes to who you want. Without a will or a trust the property goes to probate and is fair game for either individual's closest of kin. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:41:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKfv6f008630 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:41:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00470899@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725211 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:26 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h007.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAEKeQB29095 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:26 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9143 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 12:40:24 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.122) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 12:40:24 -0800 X-Sent: 14 Nov 2002 20:40:24 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114101745.00a8c2f0@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:19:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113150501.00a0b560@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <20021113183212.54F127C46@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD2538C.16311.B880138@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:06 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>But wicker molds, > >Oh, yuck. There's another reason I'm glad to have moved out of the >South. I now have a wicker hamper and do not fear mold. Mold can be a problem in New England basements. Which is where the washer and dryer have been located in every place I've lived in with the exception of one. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:41:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKfw6f008633 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:41:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041132B8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:27 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h007.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAEKeRB29103 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:27 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9155 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 12:40:25 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.122) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 12:40:25 -0800 X-Sent: 14 Nov 2002 20:40:25 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114104041.00ac7e20@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:41:41 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: legal question In-Reply-To: <20021113210924.AB7E37C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113160140.00b6cfa8@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 01:09 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >clyde w. voigtlander said: > > At 12:49 PM 11/13/2002 -0800, karen wrote: > > > > >Kewl. What happens to your house if you die at the same time? > > > > Our wills now specify that all our assets, including the house, go to Lisa. > >My brain immediately thought of Lisa Alfieri first! That's only because I've been incredibly active on the list these days.. oh and because I think Bonnie has a crush on me! ;-) >But actually, I think this is very sweet, given all that you've been through. I think it's great that Bonnie called our "our daughter"! From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:41:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKfx6f008636 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:41:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0047089A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:28 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725221 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:29 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h007.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAEKeSB29120 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:28 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9167 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 12:40:26 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.122) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 12:40:26 -0800 X-Sent: 14 Nov 2002 20:40:26 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114145344.00a9abc8@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:56:31 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <20021113230530.BDD2A7C11@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113165053.00ad0b08@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >Why should I be considerate of unsolicited advice? Or even people who >give me unsolicited advice? In any case, I *haven't* been able to >figure this out myself in the year and a half I've lived here. You asked what people did with their hangers. If you hadn't said why you wanted to know then I would say fine, don't give a shit if people give you advice. However you stated the reason you asked which prompted people to do a little troubleshooting for you. You could be gracious even if the response doesn't work for you. Especially since you haven't been able to figure this out for a year. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:42:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKg16f008639 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:42:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0047089D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725227 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:30 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h007.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAEKeUB29130 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:30 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9184 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 12:40:27 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.122) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 12:40:27 -0800 X-Sent: 14 Nov 2002 20:40:27 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114150000.00af5bd0@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:00:45 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113183031.009f0700@pop3.norton.antivirus> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20021113165053.00ad0b08@mail.attbi.com> <20021113194251.1935C7C22@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021113143940.009f6ec0@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:31 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, bonniev wrote: >>You're intelligent, you can figure this out yourself and if you can't at >>least be considerate of people's suggestions. >>lisa > >But, wait a second, Lisa! Aren't you the one that wanted to see more >controversy on words-l? Aren't you the one who craves the flame wars of old?! > > > --bonniev Yep that's me and that's precisely why I jumped into the fray. That and I was bored at work yesterday. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:42:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKg26f008642 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:42:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0047089E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:31 -0500 Received: from c015.snv.cp.net (h007.c015.snv.cp.net [209.228.35.122]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAEKeVB29144 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:31 -0500 Received: (cpmta 9194 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 12:40:29 -0800 Received: from 4.36.57.222 (HELO LISA-PC.attbi.com) by smtp.relicore.com (209.228.35.122) with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 12:40:29 -0800 X-Sent: 14 Nov 2002 20:40:29 GMT Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114153012.00af3930@mail.attbi.com> X-Sender: alfieri@mail.attbi.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:33:32 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: lisa alfieri Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD39074.ED51DD@maynor.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113170339.00af6da8@mail.attbi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:00 AM 11/14/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >lisa alfieri wrote: > > > >Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm did not improve the economy. > > > > They were also 40-50+ years ago. > > > > When I learned about these wars in school the impact they had on the > >You learned about Desert Storm in school?? I realize you're young, but >that young? > >-- > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) Studied as in looked back and picked out lessons we could learn from it? No. Studied as in I was in college majoring in poli sci at the time and discussed it in a couple different classes? Yes. lisa 31. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:57:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKvA6f008748 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:57:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00470A86@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:55:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725690 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:55:35 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:aJkH5CKbvIdbBSJNH+QW9h6Pemp2dwpP@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEKjZB30350 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:45:35 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFA82FE64 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id D2FC97C14; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:45:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114145344.00a9abc8@mail.attbi.com> from lisa alfieri at "Nov 14, 2002 2:56:31 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:45:34 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114204534.D2FC97C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri said: > However you stated the reason you asked which prompted people to do > a little troubleshooting for you. You could be gracious even if the > response doesn't work for you. Why do I need to be gracious when they were treating me like an idiot? Whoever suggest that I put a rod under the cabinets never asked if there was room for a rod. (There isn't; what was hanging would block the dryer dials.) Give me some credit! > Especially since you haven't been able to > figure this out for a year. A year and seven months. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 14:57:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEKvp6f008752 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:57:51 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041134E6@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:56:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3725742 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:56:21 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rsp5v02505O/pDT1AjasKimoLh5qG/d5@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEKkLB30472 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:46:21 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF7D2FE9A for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 52D047C11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:46:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114153012.00af3930@mail.attbi.com> from lisa alfieri at "Nov 14, 2002 3:33:32 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:46:20 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114204620.52D047C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri said: > At 06:00 AM 11/14/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: > >lisa alfieri wrote: > > > > > >Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm did not improve the economy. > > > > > > They were also 40-50+ years ago. > > > > > > When I learned about these wars in school the impact they had on the > > > >You learned about Desert Storm in school?? I realize you're young, but > >that young? > > > >-- > > -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) > > Studied as in looked back and picked out lessons we could learn from it? > No. Studied as in I was in college majoring in poli sci at the time and > discussed it in a couple different classes? Yes. Did you learn that it was 40-50+ years ago? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:07:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEL7f6f008818 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:07:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00470C1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:06:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3726759 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:06:10 -0500 Received: from cheetah.mail.utk.edu (IDENT:root@cheetah.mail.utk.edu [160.36.178.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEKuA932710 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:56:10 -0500 Received: from larry.cas.utk.edu (larry.cas.utk.edu [160.36.178.59]) by cheetah.mail.utk.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAEKu9TC010119 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:56:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:56:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Bethany K. Dumas" X-Sender: dumasb@larry.cas.utk.edu To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: for Natalie Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU just a note - I now have a photo of me with Percy and Polly - when I get back from NYC< I'll try to get it on the web so you can see them. Bethany From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:11:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELBN6f008849 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:11:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00470D18@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:09:52 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728854 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:09:52 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEL9qu04806 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:09:52 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADF82813; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBD74935; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:09:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:07:23 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Survey Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD383EB.9651.64663B@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.0.9.0.20021114101745.00a8c2f0@mail.attbi.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113150501.00a0b560@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-description: Mail message body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gAEL9qu04807 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Nov 2002 at 10:19, lisa alfieri wrote: > Mold can be a problem in New England basements. Which is where the washer > and dryer have been located in every place I've lived in with the > exception of one. Mold can be a big problem in lots of places. An example: Hilton’s mold-repair bill doubles to $40 million The cost of replacing furniture and making building reparations boosts the price tag ------------------------------------------------------------ By Tim Ruel truel@starbulletin.com The estimated cost to repair mold damage at Hilton Hawaiian Village in Waikiki just keeps growing. The $20 million tab previously disclosed by the resort's California- based parent company will ultimately reach an estimated $40 million, in part because of the newly disclosed cost of replacing furniture and making building improvements. Hilton said it will cost $20 million to refurnish rooms in the village's Kalia Tower, and to make improvements to the Kalia and Lagoon towers, where unusual amounts of mold were reported earlier this year. Hilton, Waikiki's largest resort, started throwing away all the furniture, draperies, carpeting and appliances in the Kalia Tower guest rooms a couple months ago. The estimated $20 million capital expense will come in addition to $20 million in charges Hilton has taken against its earnings for investigating and removing mold at Hilton Hawaiian Village, said Kathy Shepard, spokeswoman for Hilton Hotels Corp. Hilton disclosed the estimates yesterday in its most recent public financial statement. Hilton is seeking coverage under its property insurance policy for the costs of remediation, as well as the cost of lost business, the firm said. Hilton closed all 453 guest rooms in the new $95-million Kalia Tower in July and notified the public of excessive mold in the rooms. The resort expects to reopen the Kalia Tower in the second quarter of 2003. Hilton's time-share Lagoon Tower, where mold was found in a public corridor, has remained open. Hilton has applied for a $1 million city building permit for work at Kalia Tower that includes a correction to the air-conditioning system. Hilton has retained consulting firm Beall & Associates to do the work. A Beall representative declined comment yesterday. Experts are still investigating the causes of the high humidity that led to the Hilton mold. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:12:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELCZ6f008854 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:12:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00470D3C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:11:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3728935 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:11:04 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f24.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELB4u05048 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:11:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:10:58 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:10:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Grande Databases Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:10:58 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2002 21:10:58.0979 (UTC) FILETIME=[543BFF30:01C28C22] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita C: >Actually, I'm hoping to be lost in the glut, not hassled at all. The way someone described this, we're just building bigger haystacks in which to hunt the proverbial needle. >It is all well and good when old, retired grandmas aren't worried >about being wrongfully profiled -- what have you got to >lose anyway? You might get shunned at bingo. >However, if I got profiled because I bought all those >baggies at Schnucks, my job would be on the line. Nobody >wants a suspected anything teaching school -- and let's face it, >I have a well recorded as far as the government >is concerned. I've not done anything wrong, but others might >not see it that way. oooh, I love generation wars!!! -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:18:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELII6f008894 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:18:18 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00470E0D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:16:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3729404 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:16:47 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELGku06101 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:16:46 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAELGkB16174 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:16:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001401c28c23$66d0d020$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> Subject: Re: Re: Words Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:18:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Natalie Maynor said: > > Help me think of a slang word that means pretty much the opposite > > now of what it meant in the '50s. SQUARE reversed at one time. I don't know how it's used now. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:21:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELLP6f008913 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:21:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041138A0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:19:54 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3729667 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:19:54 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELJru06595 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:19:54 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAELJrB19790 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:19:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c28c23$d652f4a0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114120338.035c86c0@mail.istori.com> Subject: Re: Re: Words Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:21:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >and carbon paper > > Mimeograph. :) > > Pete I was thinking of the mimeograph just the other day, remembering the gooey blue sheets we had to type the master copy on, and how hard it was to make corrections, and how unreliable were the copies we made, and how quickly they blurred and faded. I am grateful every day for all the wonderful things we have to work with today. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:25:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELP26f008949 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:25:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04113914@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:23:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3730097 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:23:31 -0500 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELNVu07535 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:23:31 -0500 Received: from library.syr.edu (library.syr.edu [128.230.234.14]) by syr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13640 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from LIBRARY/SpoolDir by library.syr.edu (Mercury 1.48); 14 Nov 02 16:23:30 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by LIBRARY (Mercury 1.48); 14 Nov 02 16:22:39 -0500 From: "Paul R. Barfoot" Organization: Syracuse University Library To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:22:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Words Message-ID: <3DD3CDCD.23373.114D8420@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <002301c28c23$d652f4a0$930332d1@0018079268> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU and the smell of the mimeograph ink. My dad always typed the stencils and ran the mimeo for the sunday bulletins. I remember all the sights sound smells and textures of the process distinctly BrP > I was thinking of the mimeograph just the other > day, remembering the gooey blue sheets we had > to type the master copy on, and how hard it was > to make corrections, and how unreliable were the > copies we made, and how quickly they blurred > and faded. I am grateful every day for all the > wonderful things we have to work with today. > > - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:25:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELPn6f008963 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:25:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00470F0E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:24:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3730215 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:24:18 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELOIu07704 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:24:18 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18CRSh-0004Mg-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:23:43 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114131903.03601030@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:24:02 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <001401c28c23$66d0d020$930332d1@0018079268> References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland writes, >SQUARE reversed at one time. I don't know how it's used now. geek nerd hacker Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:37:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELbK6f009039 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:37:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04113B84@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:35:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732102 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:35:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f61.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELZlw11207 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:35:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:35:41 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:35:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Words Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:35:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2002 21:35:41.0915 (UTC) FILETIME=[C82212B0:01C28C25] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" > and the smell of the mimeograph ink. My dad always typed the stencils >and ran the >mimeo for the sunday bulletins. I remember all the sights sound smells and >textures >of the process distinctly I remember the smell and feel of the paper, still moist and fragrant when delivered to the classroom. Marie _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:40:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELeD6f009047 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00471121@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:38:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732375 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:38:42 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELcgw11694 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:38:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAELcae27105 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:38:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:38:36 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Check out http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com I have pronounced anathema on the Silent Generation. Repeatedly. > oooh, I love generation wars!!! Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:41:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELf86f009056 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:41:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00471142@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732517 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:37 -0500 Received: from biff.kiva.net (biff.kiva.net [216.9.137.5]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id gAELdaw11927 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 27986 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2002 21:39:36 -0000 Received: from mayhem.kiva.net (216.9.137.122) by biff.kiva.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2002 21:39:36 -0000 Received: by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix, from userid 5584) id 6BC6634F11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mayhem.kiva.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD952D643 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:36 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Lee To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD3CDCD.23373.114D8420@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I used the mimeograph machine to type quizzes for my students when I was a grad student. This was in the early 1990s. We students were allowed to use the Xerox machine, but only if we paid for it out of our own pockets. Teaching just didn't get the budget that research did in the physics department at Iowa State. -- Take care, Tom Lee (flint@kiva.net) who was on this then On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Paul R. Barfoot wrote: > and the smell of the mimeograph ink. My dad always typed the stencils > and ran the mimeo for the sunday bulletins. I remember all the sights > sound smells and textures of the process distinctly From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:44:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELi26f009077 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:44:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04113CAB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:42:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3732903 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:42:32 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELgVw12510 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:42:32 -0500 Received: from Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net ([66.92.160.151]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.xx 201-253-122-126-xxx-20020920) with ESMTP id <20021114214207.IWTA13933.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:42:07 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021114164224.0446dfd8@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: elaine.personal.lists@worldnet.att.net@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:44:21 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Elaine M Brennan Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] legal question In-Reply-To: <3DD2BA28.45CDDDEB@valstar.net> References: <3DD26DEA.14919.BEF0082@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:46 PM 11/13/2002 -0500, Alice wrote: >"Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > > > My guess: > > Fred and Barney would have to die at precisely the same time. If Fred > outlived > > Barney for even a moment, then the property would be Fred's and subject > to the > > terms of his will. > > >Yes. But I think that Evelyn means that time of death couldn't be >determined. Like if they died in a fire or crash within seconds of each >other. Who would know which was first? Lots of lawyers will put a clause into a will that says, "If so-and-so and I die in such a manner that the order of our deaths can not be determined, so-and-so shall be deemed to have pre-deceased me" or "to have survived me" ... in which case, either my will or so-and-so's will would be followed with respect to the distribution of property. Alternatively, of course, some wills specify that somebody has to survive the testator for 30 days for the bequest to be valid. --Elaine, dredging up paralegal memories From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:46:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELkF6f009109 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:46:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471217@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:44:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733081 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:44:44 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELidw12857 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:44:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAELiau27592 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:44:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:44:36 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Pedant's note: the moist fragrant copies are hectograph (usually purple, other colors such as green or red were possible). Mimeograph is printer's ink to ordinary paper. > >From: "Paul R. Barfoot" > > and the smell of the mimeograph ink. My dad always typed the stencils > >and ran the > >mimeo for the sunday bulletins. I remember all the sights sound smells and > >textures > >of the process distinctly > > I remember the smell and feel of the paper, still moist and fragrant when > delivered to the classroom. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 Department of Economics http://www.niu.edu/~ta0shk1 Northern Illinois University 815 753 6980 (voice) DeKalb, Illinois 60115 815 752 1019 (fax) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:46:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELkH6f009112 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:46:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00471218@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:44:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733085 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:44:46 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELikw12869 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:44:46 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA16460 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:44:45 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id B063038699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:44:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:44:45 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases Message-ID: <20021114214445.GA16031@pobox.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 09:10:58PM +0000, Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Rita C: > >Actually, I'm hoping to be lost in the glut, not hassled at all. > > The way someone described this, we're just building bigger > haystacks in which to hunt the proverbial needle. Wrong image ... Unless you also include in it the temptation to call the first thing you fish out the "needle". I for one have seen a lot of things gain spurious authority because they came from a database. > >It is all well and good when old, retired grandmas aren't worried > >about being wrongfully profiled -- what have you got to > >lose anyway? You might get shunned at bingo. > > >However, if I got profiled because I bought all those > >baggies at Schnucks, my job would be on the line. Nobody > >wants a suspected anything teaching school -- and let's face it, > >I have a well recorded as far as the government > >is concerned. I've not done anything wrong, but others might > >not see it that way. > > oooh, I love generation wars!!! This doesn't strike me as a generation war, but yours is a perfect example of the kind of non-committal remark we should all begin limiting ourselves to ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:47:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELlF6f009121 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:47:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471239@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:45:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733172 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:45:44 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELjhw13051 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:45:43 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id PAA16945 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:45:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 406D238699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:45:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:45:43 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words Message-ID: <20021114214543.GB16031@pobox.com> References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114131903.03601030@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114131903.03601030@mail.istori.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 01:24:02PM -0800, Peter Kaminski wrote: > > geek > nerd > hacker In your dreams. They are all bad things to be. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:47:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELlc6f009124 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:47:38 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471242@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:46:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733184 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:46:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f152.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.152]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELk7w13091 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:46:07 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:46:01 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:46:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Words Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:46:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2002 21:46:01.0732 (UTC) FILETIME=[3992A440:01C28C27] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: Stephen H Karlson >Pedant's note: the moist fragrant copies are hectograph (usually purple, >other colors such as green or red were possible). Mimeograph is printer's >ink to ordinary paper. Well well well...come here often? Purple was the color. Marie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:53:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELrD6f009146 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:53:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471302@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:51:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3733715 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:51:42 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELpgw14123 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:51:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAELpaO28166 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:51:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:51:36 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114093116.02ce7260@mail.istori.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by listserv.cc.uga.edu id gAELpgw14124 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter raises a good point below. It is, however, a bit late in the day to raise it, as policy makers have essentially trumped privacy advocates with, inter alia, metal detectors at the airports and schools, drunk-driving checkpoints on the roads, census questions whose relevance to enumeration and apportionment escapes me, and lifestyle audits by the Internal Revenue Service. I would commend all concerned to read http://volokh.blogspot.com, http://www.instapundit.com, and http://andrewsullivan.com for today. And note: it is quite possible to oppose much of homeland 'security' and support regime change in Iraq. > > >I haven't done anything wrong. > > The concern is that even if you've done nothing wrong, when data is > collected (perhaps with errors), collated and then interpreted in a > different context, the result may be bad assumptions about you. > > Excerpted from : > > Privacy and civil liberties advocates are often asked, "what are you afraid > of; what do you have to hide; if you haven’t done anything wrong, what’s > there to worry about?" The sentiment behind these questions is that the > data being compiled is benign and is not going to harm us. But as law > professor Jeffrey Rosen points out in his 2000 book The Unwanted Gaze, you > are not your profile. Databases can contain errors. And data compiled from > disparate sources and from differing contexts can lead the user to arrive > at the wrong conclusions. (The Unwanted Gaze: The Destruction of Privacy in > America, by Jeffrey Rosen, Random House, 2000) Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 15:59:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAELxa6f009166 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:59:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004713F4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:58:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3734332 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:58:02 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAELvhw15137 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:57:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAELvZi28699 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:57:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:57:34 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD38E45.6010201@swbell.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The kids have someplace to go to now. That wasn't the case 20 years ago. The tales of Rust Belt residents migrating to Texas and other southern places in quest of opportunities that weren't there were legion back then. The mills, by the way, won't come back. That's one of my pet Corporate Stupidity stories. Some people at Nucor Steel were looking into ways of recycling scrap steel into an 1 1/2" thick slab. Bethlehem's engineers looked into the project, and wrote a 1 1/2" thick report (this predates power point) replete with executive summaries and bullet points giving all the reasons that recycling wouldn't work. Meanwhile, Nucor put first one, now four such machines into operation, elsewhere. > But you were implying that the Mahoning Valley is now > enjoying good times in relation. It isn't. The old timers > are still sitting around talking abuot when the mills come > back, and all the kids are still leaving. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:10:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMAH6f009232 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:10:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004715E2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:08:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3735605 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:08:46 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEM8ew17386 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:08:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAEM8Y629593 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:08:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:08:34 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD39195.325620C2@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good questions, Natalie, relatively easily answered. (irrational exuberance) > I thought his point was about its upward gallop. Iow, isn't the > direction significant, not just the numbers? Both. In equilibrium, stocks trade at about 15 times permanent earnings. At 1996, the price-earnings ratio was above 15 and climbing. Currently, the price-earnings ratio is close to 15 on average. And by conventional standards, (a 20 percent increase in average stock prices) we have been in a bull market since mid-summer. There is grist for lots of doctoral dissertations yet to be written over whether deregulation, global free trade, the end of Communism, and the pending end of Islamofascism will mean a price-earnings ratio higher than 15 will be the new equilibrium. (Successful completion) > Its successful completion??? What a good one! Bear in mind something General Eisenhower said at the end of the European Campaign. (The exact quote is toward the end of Stephen Ambrose's Citizen Soldiers). The essence of Eisenhower's observation was that the campaign would be a success if in fifty years, the Germans had a stable, prosperous democracy. There was a lot of work to make that happen, including the Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift, "Ich bin ein Berliner," and "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" Successful completion will mean a lot of work this time, and it would help if our diplomats paid closer attention to the uprising in Iran. > It's fun to have Steve of the Tacky Sail back. Wish I had more time > this morning. Gotta rush onward though. Thank you. I'm going to go play with the big boys. More postings to http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com up shortly. I'll be back around the Blue Moon Saloon Friday afternoon. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:12:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMCr6f009240 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:12:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0047163E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:11:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3735774 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:11:22 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMBMw17907 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:11:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.46]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114221304.LYWA1269.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:13:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD41F83.971325E3@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:11:15 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Oh, and the voters did win in 2000. Every Florida recount has the same > result, so don't bring that whinge around here any more. I wasn't talking about recounts or who legally won the election. I was referring simply to how many people voted for which candidate. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:15:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMFb6f009268 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:15:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041140C0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:14:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3735968 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:14:05 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEME5w18386 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:14:05 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust181.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.183]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:14:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD420D0.78F1BBA5@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:16:48 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113150501.00a0b560@pop3.norton.antivirus> <3DD383EB.9651.64663B@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Michael E. Macmillan" wrote: > > Mold can be a big problem in lots of places. An example: > Alyce's lungs. alyce -- alyce cresap, books & ephemera po box 20, germantown, ny 12526 518.537.4727 | alybooks@valstar.net http://www.alybooks.com charter member: IOBA independent on-line booksellers association selling books since 1963 From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:20:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMKa6f009332 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:20:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0047172B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:04 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736241 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:05 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMJ0w19172 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:00 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.46]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114222042.XBAP7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:20:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4214D.16FFE41C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:18:53 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Procrastination References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114141103.030f9980@victoria.nb.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Espen S. Ore" wrote: > of writing I have been playing around with my webpages and with my new domain: > www.espenore.tk Neat introductory picture! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:21:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMLu6f009338 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:21:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00471759@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:20:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:20:25 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMKPw19364 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:20:25 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAEMKOs08515 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:20:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001201c28c2c$4a9c4480$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Grande Databases Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:22:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen H Karlson" To: Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Grande Databases > Check out http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com > > I have pronounced anathema on the Silent Generation. Repeatedly. > > > oooh, I love generation wars!!! > > Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 Who is the Silent Generation? - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:22:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMMc6f009346 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:22:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04114120@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:21:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736336 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:21:06 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEML6w19441 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:21:06 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust181.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.183]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:21:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42270.E5C2AEC9@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:23:44 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > Pedant's note: the moist fragrant copies are hectograph (usually purple, I just was going to mention this. I drew all the illustrations for a paper on Victorian furniture used in scenery design and duplicated them this way. But I really remember the hectograph from first grade. We had sheets with a picture of something, an apple, for instance, with A _ _ _ _ under it to fill in. I can see those things now. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:24:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMOJ6f009352 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:24:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0047178B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:22:48 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736385 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:22:48 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail004.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.24]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMMmw19596 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:22:48 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.46]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114222430.XEIY7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:24:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42232.1F70C85@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:22:42 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > and every event you attend — How can every event one attends be known (unless spies are following every human being around all the time)? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:27:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMR46f009367 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:27:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004717B8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:25:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:25:33 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMPXw19833 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:25:33 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust181.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.183]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:25:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42380.995DF87A@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:28:16 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > And note: it is quite possible to oppose much of homeland 'security' and > support regime change in Iraq. > GWB has discarded "regime change" from his rhetoric. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:28:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMS66f009370 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:28:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004717D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736485 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:34 -0500 Received: from imf04bis.bellsouth.net (mail104.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.44]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMQTw19943 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.46]) by imf04bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114222812.XHKJ7736.imf04bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:28:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4230F.D77640DB@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:26:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <20021114173110.868B87C18@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Doris Markland said: > > I guess I can't really relate to your fear. > > They can collect all the information on me > > that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. > > Whether one has done anything wrong is not the issue. It's whether one > can be perceived to have done anything wrong. Remember Richard Jewell? > He hadn't done anything wrong. And who gets to define right and wrong? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:32:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMWr6f009402 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:32:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0047183F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:31:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736840 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:31:22 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMVMw20955 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:31:22 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust181.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.183]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:31:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD424DD.BC9222C4@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:34:05 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <3DD42232.1F70C85@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > > alyce cresap wrote: > > > and every event you attend — > > How can every event one attends be known (unless spies are following > every human being around all the time)? Ask William Safire. He wrote it, not I. But I assume he means ticketed events that might have computer records--purchased through Ticketron, etc. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:37:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMbR6f009425 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:37:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004718BF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:35:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3737216 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:35:55 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMZsw21528 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:35:55 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.76.137]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5L7ZS03.DH1 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:33:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD42664.5329128F@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:40:36 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > And note: it is quite possible to oppose much of homeland 'security' and > support regime change in Iraq. You damn well betcha, Kommodore. Oh, and thanks for the blogs. It never occurred to me that now Mondale has lost an election in all 50 states. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:38:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMcU6f009430 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:38:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0411425C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:36:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736495 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:36:59 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Q+BfMLddzZ8A4pF8zk7QtQcsq0cT5547@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMQxw20000 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:59 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC442FDC8 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 208C27C0E; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:26:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD42380.995DF87A@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 14, 2002 5:28:16 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:26:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114222655.208C27C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > > > And note: it is quite possible to oppose much of homeland 'security' and > > support regime change in Iraq. > > > GWB has discarded "regime change" from his rhetoric. So what does he call it now? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:39:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMdC6f009433 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004718D9@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:37:40 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736640 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:37:41 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:z4JZ2zmhcIX1TAZPcPTHzZ2L5WUiF3jw@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMRfw20398 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:27:41 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC9D2FDC8 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 328947C11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:27:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD4230F.D77640DB@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 4:26:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:27:39 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114222740.328947C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > Doris Markland said: > > > I guess I can't really relate to your fear. > > > They can collect all the information on me > > > that they want. I haven't done anything wrong. > > > > Whether one has done anything wrong is not the issue. It's whether one > > can be perceived to have done anything wrong. Remember Richard Jewell? > > He hadn't done anything wrong. > > And who gets to define right and wrong? The people who can hold you indefinitely. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:46:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMkk6f009479 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:46:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041144F8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:45:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3736886 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:42:26 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:kdhzamfICRpENnVJ+cn4o+SFqUE+ncF8@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMWPw21090 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:32:25 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595562FDE8 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 2EB0B7C12; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD424DD.BC9222C4@valstar.net> from alyce cresap at "Nov 14, 2002 5:34: 5 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:32:25 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20021114223225.2EB0B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap said: > Natalie Maynor wrote: > > > > alyce cresap wrote: > > > > > and every event you attend — > > > > How can every event one attends be known (unless spies are following > > every human being around all the time)? > > Ask William Safire. He wrote it, not I. But I assume he means ticketed > events that might have computer records--purchased through Ticketron, > etc. Or simply conveniently placed surveillance cameras. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:47:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMlG6f009482 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:47:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471A37@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:45:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3738738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:42:40 -0500 Received: from imf01bis.bellsouth.net (mail301.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.161]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMgew22987 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:42:40 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.224.113]) by imf01bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114224423.RRVI23489.imf01bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:44:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD426D8.922A7A5B@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:42:32 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Rouvalis wrote: > > This is good news! There's so much info sitting in databases they can't > sift through it all > as it is. Add all that meaningless crap, and our privacy is virtually > guaranteed. That's kind of what I was thinking re the baggies example. With all the girl scout leaders, jewelry makers, etc. clogging the baggie reports, the investigators would probably give up pretty quickly. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:49:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMnb6f009487 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:49:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0411463B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:48:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3737302 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:48:06 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMc5w21759 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:38:05 -0500 Received: from b4nm411.uhs.berkeley.edu (outbound.UHS.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.15.35]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAEMc4sV027255 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:38:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021114145520.00a4cb40@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:55:36 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Betty Clark Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD42380.995DF87A@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 05:28 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > > > And note: it is quite possible to oppose much of homeland 'security' and > > support regime change in Iraq. > > >GWB has discarded "regime change" from his rhetoric. > >alyce Regime change begins at home. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:52:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMq66f009495 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:52:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00471ACC@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:50:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3740370 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:50:35 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMoYw25133 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:50:34 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.249]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114225217.ZHEN1281.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:52:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD428B1.2F387213@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:50:25 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tom Lee wrote: > > Well, there's always "bad," in the slang sense of "good," as > well as "radical" or "rad." What about "jazzed" -- if something is jazzed > it is screwed up, messed up, kaput. I don't know how long that usage has > been around. Hmm. I wonder whether there's a relationship between jazzed as screwed up and the earlier jazzing as in "We so cool ... We jazz June." Thanks for the suggestions. The reason I asked the question was that a VP who is working on a graduation speech called me in search of word suggestions for what I gather is just a tiny aside in his speech. He said that he's going to mention something about the many changes that have occurred since he graduated from college in '61 -- he named a few of them to me and said that he was going to throw in that the English language has changed and wanted to give some examples of words that have appeared and words that have vanished. The appeared part is easy. I gave him a bunch of those. I doubt that any words have totally vanished since '61, however. So I started trying to think of some that have become obsolescent, not totally obsolete. Then I started thinking about how his purpose might be served just as well by things like slang terms that have reversed meaning. I also thought about car-talk stuff as a possibility -- something like "While teenaged boys in the '50s talked about 'twin pipes' (??), teenaged boys now talk about _?_ [some appropriately car thing]." -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:53:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMrF6f009506 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:53:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471AE6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:51:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3740406 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:51:44 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMpiw25276 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:51:44 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.249]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114225326.ZIDS1281.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:53:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD428F6.76D272BB@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:51:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <3DD3BE15.23BD0A9D@valstar.net> <000b01c28bfd$cda31900$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD3DA10.74FE89A8@valstar.net> <000801c28c03$63d6b080$930332d1@0018079268> <20021114183525.GD26101@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > Apart from you and Natalie, everyone has done hundreds of wrong > things. Depends on how you define wrong, n'est-ce pas? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 16:56:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEMu86f009519 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:56:08 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00471B59@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:54:36 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3740892 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:54:36 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEMsaw25608 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:54:36 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.226.249]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114225619.ZKYR1281.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:56:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD429A6.DD3958EE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:54:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <20021114173110.868B87C18@yellow.rahul.net> <001501c28c0c$b671c240$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > Whether one has done anything wrong is not the issue. It's whether one > > can be perceived to have done anything wrong. Remember Richard Jewell? > > He hadn't done anything wrong. > > > > Karen > > I don't remember now why he was chosen as a > suspect, but I don't think it was because of a > large government database. Supposedly he was turned in by a highly disliked man who was our State Commissioner of Higher Ed (or whatever the title is) for a while but was gotten rid of here and went to become Pres of a tiny college in the hills of northern Georgia. Jewell worked there, iirc, and this not-nice man was somehow involved in suggesting that he might have been guilty. I don't remember the details now (obviously). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:04:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEN4Y6f009574 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:04:34 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471C2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:03:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3742432 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:02:59 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEN2xw28407 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:02:59 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.109]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114230441.ZRYS1281.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:04:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42B99.CAA7F2A0@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:02:49 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > And can you think of any words > > that have become obsolescent in the past forty or so years? > > Gay in the sense of 'happily excited'. That is a good possibility. > > Words/terms > > that would have been ordinary and unobscure to a typical college student > > of 1960 or so but would be little known, if known at all, by a typical > > college student of today? "Slide rule" is a possibility, I guess. > > But it's the object that's largely unknown. Right. That's how vocabulary loss often works. When the need for the term declines or vanishes, so does the term. > What about starch? Especially the starched petticoats or whatever you > called 'em that you couldn't do without on your first trip to New York? I'm not sure about this one. Is the word "starch" vanishing (in the sense of clothes, not food)? I've never been a user of starch with clothes, except the petticoat years, so I'm not sure. Do people in general no longer use starch? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:06:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEN6T6f009583 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:06:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471C3F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:04:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3742531 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:04:58 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail309.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.169]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEN4ww28677 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:04:58 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.109]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114230640.ZTTJ1281.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:06:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42C13.FA172640@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:04:51 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Typewriter would be another one of the same category. Something about cc might work also. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:06:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAEN6r6f009588 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:06:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04114979@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:05:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3742559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:05:22 -0500 Received: from imf09bis.bellsouth.net (mail209.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.149]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEN5Mw28784 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:05:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.109]) by imf09bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114230703.ZUDS1281.imf09bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:07:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42C2A.1B3946C1@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:05:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> from Karen Kay at "Nov 14, 2002 11:20: 5 am" <3DD3B67C.1121.10F27074@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > and carbon paper Clone! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:16:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENGn6f009643 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:16:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00471DA2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:15:17 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:15:17 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENFHw30150 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:15:17 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114231649.ESNT14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:16:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42E71.421CC864@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:14:57 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Outbreak (where's Brad) [was: Re: What a great movie!] References: <3DD3191B.E66ECBF8@maynor.net> <3DD400F4.C5EF3CA4@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > > Where *were* the dogs while Robbie and Sam were both gone, btw? > > Furbabies What I started thinking when I wrote the above last night is that maybe that was revealed in the real movie and I've forgotten the answer -- something that might have been cut out of the tv version with commercials. I did see the part last night where Sam asked Robbie what she had done with the dogs and she gave a joking answer. I had forgotten that the dog-bathing scene was so early in the movie. It was ending just as I turned it on last night. I'm glad I didn't miss it totally! I'm trying to remember now what the questions were that we debated re Casey's cord and suit. I saw that part clearly last night but couldn't remember what the questions were. Where is Brad? He would remember. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:18:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENIG6f009651 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:18:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04114A58@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:16:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743282 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:16:41 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENGfw30231 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:16:41 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114231823.EUMB14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:18:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42ED2.B8490120@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:16:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114120338.035c86c0@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > >and carbon paper > > Mimeograph. :) I had thought a little while ago when mentioning carbon paper that something could be said about the movement from mimeograph to ditto to xerox. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:20:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENJx6f009659 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:20:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04114A65@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:18:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743341 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:18:27 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENIRw30417 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:18:27 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114232009.EWLX14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:20:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42F3D.760C59BB@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:18:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113092759.036049d0@mail.istori.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113144411.00afd1c0@mail.attbi.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021113170339.00af6da8@mail.attbi.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20021114153012.00af3930@mail.attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU lisa alfieri wrote: > >You learned about Desert Storm in school?? I realize you're young, but > >that young? > Studied as in looked back and picked out lessons we could learn from it? > No. Studied as in I was in college majoring in poli sci at the time and > discussed it in a couple different classes? Yes. Ah so. It seems odd to think that you were still a student when it happened, but I guess it shouldn't seem odd. That was still the relatively early days of Words-L, and you were a student in your early days here. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:21:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENL16f009664 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:21:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471DEE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:19:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743369 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:19:29 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENJTw30508 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:19:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114232112.EXSI14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:21:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42F7B.55608BB4@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021114204534.D2FC97C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Especially since you haven't been able to > > figure this out for a year. > > A year and seven months. Are you ever going to explain why a naked hanger takes up more rod space than a clothed hanger does? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:22:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENM56f009669 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:22:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04114A77@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:20:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743410 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:20:33 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail227.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.197]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENKXw30601 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:20:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114232215.EYZL14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:22:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD42FBB.FDC48F45@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:20:27 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: for Natalie References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Bethany K. Dumas" wrote: > > just a note - I now have a photo of me with Percy and Polly - when I get > back from NYC< I'll try to get it on the web so you can see them. Did you ask him if he remembered the alligator-pin woman? Hmm. Bethany is on nomail. Remind me to repeat the question when she returns. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:23:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENNw6f009686 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:23:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471E2D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:22:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743455 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:22:27 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENMRw30792 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:22:27 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAENMQs27151 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:22:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004f01c28c34$f4c78660$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: Grande Databases Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:24:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > Actually, I'm hoping to be lost in the glut, not hassled at all. > > > It is all well and good when old, retired grandmas aren't worried > about being wrongfully profiled -- what have you got to > lose anyway? You might get shunned at bingo. > > -- Rita C. Maybe we've been through so many scares we have become blase. 1984 came and went, you know. I read that book when it first came out, and I was full of fears then. Maybe Orwell should have named it 2004, or maybe by the time everything is in place it will be 2084. Also, a mother's fears are for her children. Once they are raised she doesn't have many fears for herself. But I don't play bingo. My involvement with life goes a bit deeper than that. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:25:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENPr6f009695 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:25:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00471E68@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:24:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:24:21 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENOLw31084 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:24:21 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114232603.FDQE14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:26:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4309E.303565F6@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:24:14 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114120338.035c86c0@mail.istori.com> <002301c28c23$d652f4a0$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > I was thinking of the mimeograph just the other > day, remembering the gooey blue sheets we had > to type the master copy on, and how hard it was > to make corrections, and how unreliable were the Do you remember thinking how magic it was when we moved up to ditto machines? The darker purple that stayed on fingernails was replaced with lighter purple. And no more handles to crank! And then at some point some kind of really high-tech correction strips came along for dittoing -- can't remember now exactly how they worked -- something you'd stick over or under the error and retype. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:30:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENUE6f009750 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:30:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00471EC5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:28:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743354 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:28:43 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rBHyARZ4L02NIUIneIyVs1+TYIzZ7HOd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENIgw30438 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:18:42 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F322FE2B for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6DB0B7C15; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:18:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Grande Databases In-Reply-To: <3DD426D8.922A7A5B@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 4:42:32 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:18:41 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114231841.6DB0B7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > That's kind of what I was thinking re the baggies example. With all the > girl scout leaders, jewelry makers, etc. clogging the baggie reports, > the investigators would probably give up pretty quickly. They are too busy tracking growlights to worry about baggies. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:31:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENV26f009755 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:31:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00471ED1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:29:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743787 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:29:30 -0500 Received: from imf25bis.bellsouth.net (mail229.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.199]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENTUw31702 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:29:30 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.225.181]) by imf25bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021114233113.FJZT14850.imf25bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:31:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD431D4.52BD01B2@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:29:24 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <3DD3CDCD.23373.114D8420@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU "Paul R. Barfoot" wrote: > > and the smell of the mimeograph ink. Oh yes! This conversation in general (not specifically about copying) makes me think about how much easier it must be to be a student these days, especially how much easier to be a grad student. Remember how long it took to type papers in the olden days? Most of the time devoted to writing a paper was eaten up with the typing process. I'm sure that current PhD students wouldn't even know what I was talking about if I told them that I'd done it all on a manual typewriter until splurging on an electric typewriter for writing the final draft of my dissertation. And then there was the craziness of footnotes, which turned to endnotes around the time it was no longer as hard to handle footnotes. Remind me to give my anti-endnote harangue when I come back. I've gotta log off now. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:33:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENX56f009764 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:33:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04114AFA@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:31:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743438 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:31:33 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fVSD6bhd42I2nK3OcxR9ig8Q0hr/+qkS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENLXw30692 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:21:33 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6DE2FE3D for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:21:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DA4EB7C15; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:21:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Outbreak (where's Brad) [was: Re: What a great movie!] In-Reply-To: <3DD42E71.421CC864@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 5:14:57 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:21:32 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114232132.DA4EB7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I'm trying to remember now what the questions were that we > debated re Casey's cord and suit. I saw that part clearly last night > but couldn't remember what the questions were. Wasn't it something about the hole? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:36:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENaA6f009787 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:36:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00471FEB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:34:38 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743465 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:33:01 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:NFFMifikcbYDEiwbezyrbsDDvuFPaWXh@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENMkw30810 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:22:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B2F2FE3D for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 53E947C15; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:22:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD42F7B.55608BB4@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 5:19:23 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:22:45 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114232245.53E947C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Are you ever going to explain why a naked hanger takes up more rod space > than a clothed hanger does? It doesn't. It just takes up different space. That is, where I take the hanger from, is not necessarily where it goes back to. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:36:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENaM6f009790 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:36:22 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00471FFA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:34:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3743561 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:34:09 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:M8OroBR7V72Y9aFkmNmMKV040njgrvEb@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENO9w31048 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:24:09 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5E32FE47 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86A607C10; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD42B99.CAA7F2A0@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 5: 2:49 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114232408.86A607C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > I'm not sure about this one. Is the word "starch" vanishing (in the > sense of clothes, not food)? I've never been a user of starch with > clothes, except the petticoat years, so I'm not sure. Do people in > general no longer use starch? People in general don't even iron any more. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 17:58:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAENwE6f009919 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:58:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004721BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:56:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3746927 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:56:42 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENugw03560 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:56:42 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.73]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5LBQF00.NH2 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:54:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD437F2.87578736@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:55:30 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114232408.86A607C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > People in general don't even iron any more. I both iron *and* starch, but then I'm not "people in general". You see a lot of it in the store, both spray and concentrate, so somebody besides me is buying it. JMW, starchy From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:07:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0726f009977 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:07:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472258@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:05:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3747378 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:05:30 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF05Tw04659 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:05:29 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA25105 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:05:29 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id 4A95738699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:05:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:05:29 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Message-ID: <20021115000529.GB26899@pobox.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114093116.02ce7260@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:51:36PM -0600, Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Peter raises a good point below. It is, however, a bit late in the day > to raise it, as policy makers have essentially trumped privacy advocates > with, inter alia, metal detectors at the airports and schools, > drunk-driving checkpoints on the roads, census questions whose relevance > to enumeration and apportionment escapes me, and lifestyle audits by the > Internal Revenue Service. In other words, you get one chance at the beginning of the "slippery slope", even though it's metal detectors, which have very little database value. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:10:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0A46f009987 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:10:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04114FB0@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:08:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3747022 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:08:32 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Q8jbJk/xFAuil1m5u0BDPDmtW9bxGmV4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAENwWw03825 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:58:32 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A272FE3B for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 705177C10; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:58:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD437F2.87578736@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 14, 2002 4:55:30 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:58:31 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > People in general don't even iron any more. > > I both iron *and* starch, but then I'm not "people in general". You > see a lot of it in the store, both spray and concentrate, so somebody > besides me is buying it. I wonder if people under 30 iron or starch. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:11:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0B56f009993 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:11:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0047229A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3747647 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:32 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF09Ww05199 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:32 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id SAA26649 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:09:32 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id C279238699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:09:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:09:31 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words Message-ID: <20021115000931.GC26899@pobox.com> References: <3DD437F2.87578736@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:58:31PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > I wonder if people under 30 iron or starch. Yes, and they know what typewriter and carbon paper means. Stop being so damn lame. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:14:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0EJ6f010018 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:14:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004722E3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3747960 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from imf20bis.bellsouth.net (mail020.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF0Clw05884 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.33.227.130]) by imf20bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115001418.GKMU13281.imf20bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD43BF5.B18C4BE7@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:12:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > census questions whose relevance > to enumeration and apportionment escapes me, But they sure can help future genealogists. I wish everybody got to do at census time. > I would commend all concerned to read http://volokh.blogspot.com, Someday I want to get into the discussion of blogs here. Something about having a blog has always struck me as -- what? -- a bit bumptious? > And note: it is quite possible to oppose much of homeland 'security' and > support regime change in Iraq. I loved my "Regime Change Begins At Home. Vote!" banner. Wish it had helped. I'm feeling pretty good, though, about the direction the Democrats seem to be taking -- not so much mealy-mouthedness as has been the case since 9/11. I am happy about Pelosi, and I'm happy that Daschle is questioning Dubya's success in the . -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:21:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0Lr6f010070 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:21:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115051@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:20:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3748239 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:20:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF0KHw06585 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:20:18 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.73]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5LCTR01.OHD for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:17:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD43D79.F9A194D9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:05 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <200211141738.gAEHceb18669@Ra.MsState.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: First off, I have to say that you've got a lot of goddam gall to ask a question about the English language on this . 8-> > Help me think of a slang word that means pretty much the opposite > now of what it meant in the '50s. A polar opposite? I can't think of anything.. > And can you think of any words > that have become obsolescent in the past forty or so years? Well, there are entire professions that have disappeared. Milkman, file clerk, truant officer, clipping service... > Words/terms > that would have been ordinary and unobscure to a typical college student > of 1960 or so but would be little known, if known at all, by a typical > college student of today? "Slide rule" is a possibility, I guess. Co-ed? BMOC? Anything to do with dorm restrictions? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:24:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0OW6f010082 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:24:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0411507B@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:23:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3748377 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:22:57 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF0Mvw06864 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:22:57 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.73]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5LCY300.NH5 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:20:27 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD43E15.C3306726@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:21:41 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > I wonder if people under 30 iron or starch. Well, now, that kinda hurt, but not knowing many people under 30 I have to say that I haven't the faintest idea. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:25:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0Pi6f010089 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:25:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472399@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:24:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3748444 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:24:12 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF0OBw07044 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:24:11 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.55]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115000236.UCPT4249.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:02:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4392F.488F1CCD@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:00:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114131903.03601030@mail.istori.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Peter Kaminski wrote: > > Doris Markland writes, > > >SQUARE reversed at one time. I don't know how it's used now. > > geek > nerd > hacker The problem with those is that they weren't well-known, commonly used words in the '50s. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:27:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0Rs6f010099 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:27:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041150C8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:26:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3748550 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:26:22 -0500 Received: from imf40bis.bellsouth.net (mail125.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.65]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF0QMw07259 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:26:22 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.55]) by imf40bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115000425.UFAJ4249.imf40bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:04:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4399D.15745446@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:02:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tom Lee wrote: > > I used the mimeograph machine to type quizzes for my students when > I was a grad student. This was in the early 1990s. We students were > allowed to use the Xerox machine, but only if we paid for it out of our > own pockets. Teaching just didn't get the budget that research did in the > physics department at Iowa State. Do you really mean mimeograph? Not ditto? In my teaching career the change from mimeograph to ditto occurred in the late '60s. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 18:50:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF0os6f010214 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:50:55 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004724D7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:49:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3748941 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:49:22 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:1D/dXYdiGg0J3E4yj5vvt4SrjzLKvMx4@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF0dLw08428 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:39:22 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9342FDFE for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 40D077C0E; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD43E15.C3306726@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 14, 2002 5:21:41 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:39:21 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115003921.40D077C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > I wonder if people under 30 iron or starch. > > Well, now, that kinda hurt, Sorry. But I"m not under 30 either. > but not knowing many people under 30 I have to > say that I haven't the faintest idea. Do the patrons of your library iron and starch? Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:05:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1546f010293 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:05:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115261@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:03:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3749951 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:03:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF13Ww10924 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:03:32 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.239.73]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5LETT01.DGT for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:01:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD44794.6F5642CE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:02:12 -0700 From: "John Williams" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021115003921.40D077C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Do the patrons of your library iron and starch? Many of them don't bathe. Have I told about the patron known as The Nosepicker? JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:11:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1B46f010321 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:11:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004725F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:09:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3750348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:09:32 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF19Vw11560 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:09:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAF19Tf10955 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:29 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021114145520.00a4cb40@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Correction. Regime change has begun at home. Note last week's implosion of the Donks. SHK > Regime change begins at home. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:21:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1L26f010387 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:21:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041153C7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:19:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3751061 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:19:30 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1JUw12677 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:19:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAF1JPY11555 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:19:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:19:25 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD43BF5.B18C4BE7@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU More grist from Starkville ... > But they sure can help future genealogists. I wish everybody got to do > at census time. I can just envision future iterations of Family Tree Maker with lots of fields, in case an ancestor submitted the long form. The forms have gotten shorter and longer in the past (compare the 1850 and 1860 to the 1880 and 1910). But the best thing to do to help future genealogists is to keep good records on the important stuff now, and entrust them to younger family members with an interest in the stuff (Weblogs) > Someday I want to get into the discussion of blogs here. Something > about having a blog has always struck me as -- what? -- a bit bumptious? OK, I'm bumptious. Deal with it. (Regime change) > I loved my "Regime Change Begins At Home. Vote!" banner. Wish it had > helped. I'm feeling pretty good, though, about the direction the > Democrats seem to be taking -- not so much mealy-mouthedness as has been > the case since 9/11. I am happy about Pelosi, and I'm happy that > Daschle is questioning Dubya's success in the . Actually, regime change has begun at home. And there's something wrong with this picture ... moderate, supported the war, African ancestors, Rep. Ford, not being put forth, so that San Francisco Democrat and Silent Generation relic, Rep. Pelosi can. (nb: Silent Generation = people too young to have fought WWII and too old to have been drafted for Vietnam. Collectively inherited the best country in the world, and the best job prospects ever, and made a mess of their inheritance). Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:23:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1NJ6f010396 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:23:19 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041153E7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:21:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3751150 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:21:47 -0500 Received: from pete.uri.edu (RockyPoint.uri.edu [131.128.1.58]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1Llw12882 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:21:47 -0500 Received: from terms.uri.edu (TERMS.uri.edu [131.128.1.32]) by pete.uri.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1LkT16771 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:21:46 -0500 Received: from 4dj8f01 ([131.128.122.103]) by terms.uri.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gAF1JVv19396 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:19:31 -0500 Message-ID: <009801c28c45$0d4ae780$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> From: "Alan Wild" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: You Are s Suspect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:19:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen H Karlson" > Correction. Regime change has begun at home. Note last week's implosion > of the Donks. SHK > > > Regime change begins at home. Colin Powell's Eyebrows November 10, 2002 By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN This column is about the foreign policy fallout from the elections. But first, a story. I was recently interviewing a senior European diplomat when he began complaining about the Bush team's imbalanced Mideast policy, which involves telling the truth to Palestinians - that they need a new leader - but not telling the truth to Israel - that it needs to find a secure way to get out of the settlements. He became so passionate that I couldn't resist asking: "What does Colin Powell say when you tell him this?" The diplomat then did an imitation of Mr. Powell raising his eyebrows as if to say, " `You know what I believe, and you know I can't do anything about it with the crazies in this administration.' " I've been thinking a lot about Colin Powell's eyebrows this week. Let's be blunt: the Democratic Party as a force for shaping U.S. foreign policy is out of business, until that party undergoes regime change. That's not healthy. You can't have a sound foreign policy without an intelligent domestic opposition keeping people honest. With the Dems out of business, the real opposition party on foreign policy will now be the "De Facto Democrats": Colin Powell, John McCain and the British prime minister, Tony Blair. They are the only voices that, if raised in opposition to any Bush foreign policy initiative, could restrain the president and sway the public. That is not true of any Democrat today. What the last election showed us is what a deep trauma of vulnerability 9/11 etched on the American psyche. "While the Democrats failed to articulate a broad range of policy differences with President Bush," said David Makovsky of the Washington Institute, "their key failure was their inability to persuade Americans - in their guts - that they were prepared to deal with the world as it really is now." That is a world full of terrorists and rogue regimes dedicated to our destruction and not responsive to therapy or social work. Where the Bush hard-liners are out of step is that many people here and abroad don't believe these guys really want to invest in making the world a different place, or that they have any imagination or inspiration to do so. The reason the De Facto Democrats are so important, and have a future, is that people trust that they see the world as it is - but also aspire to make it a better place. That is where the soul of America is. Mr. Powell and Mr. Blair pushed Mr. Bush to go through the U.N. before invading Iraq. The hard-liners were angry about that because they fear the inspectors won't find anything and then Iraq will be off the hook. Cool it. Saddam is as likely to fully comply with the U.N. as Mike Tyson is to embrace anger management, and by framing the issue in the U.N., Mr. Bush ensured much greater public support for any war. It was good advice by the De Facto Democrats, and more will be needed. Consider the Predator drone that last week fired a rocket and wiped out a key Al Qaeda cell in Yemen. I'm glad we did that. Sometimes it's the only way justice gets done. Because what you have today is the Arab street and the Arab basement. Predators are very necessary for wiping out the hard-core terrorists who have left the street and gone into the basement, where they are beyond diplomacy and committed to violence. But if you don't try to seal the door between the street and the basement - with diplomacy - what happens is that as soon as you kill four guys in the basement, four more come down from the street and take their place. Mr. Powell has always understood, better than the Bush hard-liners (who say, Forget about streets, treaties and institutions - foreign policy is about asserting U.S. power) that Predators are necessary, but not sufficient. You don't have to cater to the Arab street, or the European street or the Chechen street, but if you don't listen to their legitimate aspirations, you end up refilling the basements with more dangerous characters. If the only outstretched American hand the world sees is the Predator drone, we're in trouble. This is where the real fight in America is going to be: between those who just want to deal with the world as it is, and those who want to deal with the world as it is - but also really invest in changing it. Until Democrats convince the public that they know how the world really is, we will have to rely on De Facto Democrats to fight this fight. But that means Mr. Powell must step it up. If he and his allies are going to prevail, they are going to have to raise more than just their eyebrows. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/10/opinion/10FRIE.html?ex=1037940453&ei=1&en= d13a4f3d67b215da HOW TO ADVERTISE --------------------------------- For information on advertising in e-mail newsletters or other creative advertising opportunities with The New York Times on the Web, please contact onlinesales@nytimes.com or visit our online media kit at http://www.nytimes.com/adinfo For general information about NYTimes.com, write to help@nytimes.com. Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:23:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1Ni6f010400 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:23:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041153F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:22:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3750471 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:22:12 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:H3I+nG9yedK9wfaxEP9+YiCf1ERp4cPI@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1CBw11880 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:12:12 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADB22FD15 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C3B417C0E; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD44794.6F5642CE@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 14, 2002 6: 2:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115011210.C3B417C0E@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Do the patrons of your library iron and starch? > > Many of them don't bathe. And they are students? > Have I told about the patron known as The > Nosepicker? TMI.:) Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:27:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1R26f010413 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:27:02 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.004726F7@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:25:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3751313 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:25:30 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1PUw13237 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:25:30 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L009AHFYHX1@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:25:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:26:43 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Grande Databases To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD44D53.8050707@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > Rita C: > >> Actually, I'm hoping to be lost in the glut, not hassled at all. > > > The way someone described this, we're just building bigger > haystacks in which to hunt the proverbial needle. > >> It is all well and good when old, retired grandmas aren't worried >> about being wrongfully profiled -- what have you got to >> lose anyway? You might get shunned at bingo. > > >> However, if I got profiled because I bought all those >> baggies at Schnucks, my job would be on the line. Nobody >> wants a suspected anything teaching school -- and let's face it, >> I have a well recorded as far as the government >> is concerned. I've not done anything wrong, but others might >> not see it that way. > > > oooh, I love generation wars!!! Not at all. It's about what you've got to lose, not how old you are. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:32:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1WN6f010454 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:32:23 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.0047273D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3751548 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:50 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1Uow13926 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:50 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L00EGMG7EPD@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:30:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:32:03 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Grande Databases To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD44E93.6080408@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Couldn't find anything about a silent generation. Your ed. observations are mildly humorous. I noticed improved test scores today by bringing in a couple of dancing hamsters. Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Check out http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com > > I have pronounced anathema on the Silent Generation. Repeatedly. > > >>oooh, I love generation wars!!! >> > > Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:34:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1YO6f010462 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:34:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0047275B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:32:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3751664 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:32:51 -0500 Received: from pigeon.inebraska.com (pigeon.inebraska.com [199.184.119.21]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1Wpw14221 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:32:51 -0500 Received: from 0018079268 (oma-dsl-dynamic-209-50-3-147.inetnebr.com [209.50.3.147]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id gAF1Wos00673 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:32:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00a301c28c47$2c009ec0$930332d1@0018079268> From: "Doris Markland" To: "English Language Discussion Group" References: Subject: Re: Re: You Are s Suspect Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:34:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU . (nb: Silent Generation = people too > young to have fought WWII and too old to have been drafted for Vietnam. > Collectively inherited the best country in the world, and the best job > prospects ever, and made a mess of their inheritance). > > Stephen Karlson This is interesting. Don't know if I have ever heard this put into words. - D. M. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:37:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1bU6f010482 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:37:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472786@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:35:57 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3751789 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:35:58 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1Zvw14567 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:35:57 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L00ELOGFXPD@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:35:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:37:10 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Blech To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD44FC6.8090809@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > The kids have someplace to go to now. That wasn't the case 20 years ago. > The tales of Rust Belt residents migrating to Texas and other southern > places in quest of opportunities that weren't there were legion back then. Hmm, they did for a short while. I'm not sure why migration is to south, but I have noticed that St. Louis has a large number of people who have moved here from Ohio. > The mills, by the way, won't come back. That's one of my pet Corporate > Stupidity stories. Some people at Nucor Steel were looking into ways of > recycling scrap steel into an 1 1/2" thick slab. Bethlehem's engineers > looked into the project, and wrote a 1 1/2" thick report (this predates > power point) replete with executive summaries and bullet points giving all > the reasons that recycling wouldn't work. Meanwhile, Nucor put first one, > now four such machines into operation, elsewhere. Of course they won't. Any moron knows that. The mills have rusted into a fine powder and the blast furnaces have been blasted to rubble. But you wouldn't know that to talk to the old timers. I honestly think nothing will change there until they all die off (except their retirement checks are supporting the local economy). The Mahoning Valley actually has a lot of specialty steel, heat treatment, and alumnimum stuff going on, but nothing can compare to that long stretch of blast furnaces along the river between Struthers and Campbell. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:42:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1gZ6f010500 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:42:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041154DC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:41:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3752039 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:41:02 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1ecw15086 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:40:38 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAF1ebsV019039; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:40:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021114174135.00a42d70@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:43:01 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD437F2.87578736@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:58 PM 11/14/2002 -0800, Karen Kay wrote: >John Williams said: > > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > > People in general don't even iron any more. > > > > I both iron *and* starch, but then I'm not "people in general". You > > see a lot of it in the store, both spray and concentrate, so somebody > > besides me is buying it. > >I wonder if people under 30 iron or starch. The first time my daughter saw an iron at her grandmother's house she asked what it was. I think she was 10. Betty, wash and wear From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 19:43:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF1hZ6f010506 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:43:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041154F4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:42:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3752122 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:41:58 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF1fvw15201 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:41:57 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAF1ftsV025796; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:41:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021114174325.00a41dd0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:44:19 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <20021115000931.GC26899@pobox.com> References: <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> <3DD437F2.87578736@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:09 PM 11/14/2002 -0600, Tushar Samant wrote: >On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 03:58:31PM -0800, Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I wonder if people under 30 iron or starch. > >Yes, and they know what typewriter and carbon paper means. >Stop being so damn lame. We are still using both. Betty, antiquated but organized From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:19:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2JZ6f010710 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:19:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00472A39@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:18:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3753506 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:18:02 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2Hww18677 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:17:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAF2Hqt14730 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:17:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:17:52 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <00a301c28c47$2c009ec0$930332d1@0018079268> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Let me recommend http://www.fourthturning.com There's a lot more about the various generations there, and numerous discussion lists. > . (nb: Silent Generation = people too > > young to have fought WWII and too old to have been drafted for > Vietnam. > > Collectively inherited the best country in the world, and the best job > > prospects ever, and made a mess of their inheritance). > > This is interesting. Don't know if I have ever > heard this put into words. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:19:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2JZ6f010709 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:19:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472A38@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:18:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3753502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:18:02 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2I1w18692 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:18:02 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADG06009; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBD99074; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:17:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:15:35 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD3CC27.27492.17E913B@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3DD43BF5.B18C4BE7@maynor.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Nov 2002 at 19:19, Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Actually, regime change has begun at home. And there's something wrong > with this picture ... moderate, supported the war, African ancestors, Rep. > Ford, not being put forth, so that San Francisco Democrat and Silent > Generation relic, Rep. Pelosi can. (nb: Silent Generation = people too > young to have fought WWII and too old to have been drafted for Vietnam. Seems to me you have to be doing a little hairsplitting to make this work for Pelosi. As a woman, she was, of course, in no danger of being drafted, but more than a few people her age fought in Vietnam. If they volunteered rather than being drafted--or dodging the draft--do they escape being in the "Silent Generation"? Are some in her age cohort members of that generation while others aren't? If that's so, is "generation" the right word? mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:28:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2Su6f010748 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:28:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472AAE@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:27:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3753845 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:27:23 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2RMw19527 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:27:22 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L007T6ITL7O@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:27:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:28:35 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Grande Databases To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD45BD3.5000300@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <004f01c28c34$f4c78660$930332d1@0018079268> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > Maybe we've been through so many scares we > have become blase. 1984 came and went, you > know. I read that book when it first came out, > and I was full of fears then. Maybe Orwell should > have named it 2004, or maybe by the time everything > is in place it will be 2084. Maybe. Maybe I have my reasons. > Also, a mother's fears are for her children. Once > they are raised she doesn't have many fears for > herself. I wouldn't know anything about being a mother, of course. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:29:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2Tj6f010753 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:29:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472ABA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:28:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3753852 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:28:13 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2SCw19605 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:28:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAF2S9m15451 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:28:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:28:08 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD3CC27.27492.17E913B@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Good question, Mike. It's not really hairsplitting. At 63, she's born in 1939. That is the 1960 draft class, maybe a few people from that class went to Vietnam, but the buildup was after their hitches were over. If you want to find out more about how this generation stuff works, go to http://www.fourthturning.com It's also the case that although all people of a given age range are of an identifiable generation (marketers and some demographers work that way) not all people of that age range act or think alike. For example, David Horowitz's "Destructive Generation" actually refers to younger Silents and older Boomers who bought into Left arguments. > Seems to me you have to be doing a little hairsplitting to make > this work for Pelosi. As a woman, she was, of course, in no danger > of being drafted, but more than a few people her age fought in > Vietnam. If they volunteered rather than being drafted--or dodging > the draft--do they escape being in the "Silent Generation"? Are > some in her age cohort members of that generation while others > aren't? If that's so, is "generation" the right word? Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:32:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2W76f010782 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:32:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0411571A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3753900 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:32 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2U9w19727 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:09 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id UAA18363 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:09 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A3CC838699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:08 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases Message-ID: <20021115023008.GA12557@pobox.com> References: <004f01c28c34$f4c78660$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD45BD3.5000300@swbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DD45BD3.5000300@swbell.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 08:28:35PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > Doris Markland wrote: > > >Maybe we've been through so many scares we > >have become blase. 1984 came and went, you > >know. I read that book when it first came out, > >and I was full of fears then. Maybe Orwell should > >have named it 2004, or maybe by the time everything > >is in place it will be 2084. > > Maybe. Maybe I have my reasons. How's a novel like a law? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:33:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2Xu6f010791 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:33:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00472AFB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:32:23 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3753981 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:32:24 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail002.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2WNw19965 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:32:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.52]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115023406.FNPJ1995.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:34:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD45CB1.CE9FA8FA@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:32:17 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > and the pending end of Islamofascism Will you explain to us why you think that end is pending? > > Its successful completion??? What a good one! > > Bear in mind something General Eisenhower said at the end of the European > Campaign. (The exact quote is toward the end of Stephen Ambrose's Citizen > Soldiers). The essence of Eisenhower's observation was that the campaign > would be a success if in fifty years, the Germans had a stable, prosperous > democracy. There was a lot of work to make that happen, including the > Marshall Plan, Berlin Airlift, "Ich bin ein Berliner," and "Mr. Gorbachev, > tear down this wall!" Successful completion will mean a lot of work this > time, and it would help if our diplomats paid closer attention to the > uprising in Iran. I don't have any problem understanding what you mean by "successful completion" in the sense of rebuilding/restructuring. Your Eisenhower reference says "at the end of the European campaign." What I'm curious about is your seeming confidence that we will reach a decisive and to-our-advantage end of the grab-the-oil campaign. > > > It's fun to have Steve of the Tacky Sail back. Wish I had more time > > this morning. Gotta rush onward though. > > Thank you. I'm going to go play with the big boys. More postings to > http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com up shortly. I'll be back around the > Blue Moon Saloon Friday afternoon. The big boys? What are we?? You're sounding like Giggles that night he said he was going to dine with his friends! -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:36:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2Zw6f010808 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:36:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472B25@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:34:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754025 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:34:25 -0500 Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2YPw20113 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:34:25 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L007AQJ5C7O@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:34:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:35:38 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Grande Databases To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD45D7A.6030407@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <004f01c28c34$f4c78660$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD45BD3.5000300@swbell.net> <20021115023008.GA12557@pobox.com> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Tushar Samant wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 08:28:35PM -0600, Rita Chapman wrote: > >>Doris Markland wrote: >> >> >>>Maybe we've been through so many scares we >>>have become blase. 1984 came and went, you >>>know. I read that book when it first came out, >>>and I was full of fears then. Maybe Orwell should >>>have named it 2004, or maybe by the time everything >>>is in place it will be 2084. >>> >> Maybe. Maybe I have my reasons. >> > > How's a novel like a law? It's all in how you read it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:36:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2aU6f010812 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:36:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472B34@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:34:53 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754037 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:34:53 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail002.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2Yrw20139 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:34:53 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.52]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115023635.FPGA1995.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:36:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD45D47.6BDC1C6C@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:34:47 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <20021114223225.2EB0B7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > > How can every event one attends be known (unless spies are following > > > every human being around all the time)? > > > > Ask William Safire. He wrote it, not I. But I assume he means ticketed > > events that might have computer records--purchased through Ticketron, > > etc. > > Or simply conveniently placed surveillance cameras. Hmm. Should I look around for cameras at the next Starkville Community Theatre production? Or symphony performance? (I do have a season ticket to the SCT. Wonder whether there are records. The sympohony concerts are free.) -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:40:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2eA6f010827 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:40:10 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472B67@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:38:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754108 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:38:37 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail102.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2cbw20407 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:38:37 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.52]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115024019.FRXQ1995.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:40:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD45E26.DA8EADC8@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:38:30 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Outbreak (where's Brad) [was: Re: What a great movie!] References: <20021114232132.DA4EB7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > I'm trying to remember now what the questions were that we > > debated re Casey's cord and suit. I saw that part clearly last night > > but couldn't remember what the questions were. > > Wasn't it something about the hole? But there wasn't really a hole. His cord got caught because he was very tired and thus not alert to concerns like catching his cord on something, and the hung cord pulled the back of his pants off far enough for the ebola to have zoomed into the area. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:42:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2gG6f010834 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:42:16 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472B85@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:40:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754159 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:40:43 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail102.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2ehw20571 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:40:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.52]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115024225.FTJA1995.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:42:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD45EA5.902BBBAE@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:40:37 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021114232245.53E947C15@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Are you ever going to explain why a naked hanger takes up more rod space > > than a clothed hanger does? > > It doesn't. It just takes up different space. That is, where I take > the hanger from, is not necessarily where it goes back to. Hmm. So you do move clothes from closet to closet or rod to rod in a manner. Why? Why do you shuffle your clothes around? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2iH6f010847 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:44:17 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472B99@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:42:43 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754204 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:42:44 -0500 Received: from imf02bis.bellsouth.net (mail102.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.42]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2ghw20735 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:42:43 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.52]) by imf02bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115024423.FUPM1995.imf02bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:44:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD45F1A.53C47065@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:42:34 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114232408.86A607C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > People in general don't even iron any more. I'm happy to hear this. It makes me feel less mutant for ironing only once every couple of months or so. I thought people ironed frequently (or hired other people to do it for them). -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:48:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2ms6f010886 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:48:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041157A5@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:47:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754084 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:47:20 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:ns019xLdU6YS4i7eZ7tcwTfQbvhF0uJi@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2bKw20327 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:37:20 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4862FDFB for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:37:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id AFCEC7C18; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:37:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD45CB1.CE9FA8FA@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 8:32:17 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:37:19 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115023719.AFCEC7C18@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > What I'm curious > about is your seeming confidence that we will reach a decisive and > to-our-advantage end of the grab-the-oil campaign. Speaking of oil, why are gas prices so low? Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:49:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2n66f010890 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:49:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041157A8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:47:33 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754342 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:47:33 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail317.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.177]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2lXw21104 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:47:33 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.52]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115024915.TIEA8615.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:49:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4603E.964F1699@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:47:26 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases References: <004f01c28c34$f4c78660$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > It is all well and good when old, retired grandmas aren't worried > > about being wrongfully profiled -- what have you got to > > lose anyway? You might get shunned at bingo. > > > > -- Rita C. ... > But I don't play bingo. My involvement with life > goes a bit deeper than that. Am I the only one who has noticed that Rita has some kind of thing? I can't name the specifics of when I've noticed it in her postings in the past, but I have noticed it and have found it somehow amusing -- as if she thinks she'll never hit forty, much less sixty. It has struck me as a bit odd, though, for somebody who is overall as wise and withit as I think Rita is overall. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:51:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2pO6f010905 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:51:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041157B7@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:49:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754379 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:49:51 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2npw21207 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:49:51 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:49:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD46170.16FDAA3F@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:52:32 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <00a301c28c47$2c009ec0$930332d1@0018079268> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Doris Markland wrote: > > . (nb: Silent Generation = people too > > young to have fought WWII and too old to have been drafted for > Vietnam. That would place me in the Silent Generation. Although we were too old for Vietnam, we were not too old for Korea. My fiance was there for two years while I was in college. I never have understood why we were called the Silent Generation. As I recall, we were not silent then and are not silent now. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:54:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2sl6f010918 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:54:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472C22@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:53:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754529 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:53:14 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2rEw21612 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:53:14 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADG07633; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBE00731; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:53:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:50:49 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD3D469.26416.19ED4EB@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021115023719.AFCEC7C18@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD45CB1.CE9FA8FA@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 8:32:17 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Nov 2002 at 18:37, Karen Kay wrote: > Speaking of oil, why are gas prices so low? I guess I must be paying the difference that allows yours to be low. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 20:56:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF2u16f010923 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:56:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472C32@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:54:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3754583 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:54:28 -0500 Received: from imf17bis.bellsouth.net (mail217.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.157]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF2sSw21710 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:54:28 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.249.52]) by imf17bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115025610.TOFP8615.imf17bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:56:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD461DD.E9B93D91@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:54:21 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <200211141738.gAEHceb18669@Ra.MsState.Edu> <3DD43D79.F9A194D9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams wrote: > Well, there are entire professions that have disappeared. Milkman, file > clerk, truant officer, clipping service... Have milkmen disappeared everywhere in the US? (They have as far as my personal experience goes, but I'm thinking now about how they still exist in Japan.) And what about truant officers? Does truancy no longer exist as a ? I'm trying to think what a file clerk is. It sounds familiar somehow, but I'm coming up blank in associating that title with an activity. And what is a clipping service?? I would assume that to be like a dog groomer. > Co-ed? BMOC? Anything to do with dorm restrictions? Co-ed is a thought. It doesn't really mean anything at all now, does it? I remember when it meant female student. Then it moved to adjectival use referring to the mix in a dorm. I guess it has vanished totally now. Is there a current term that would be equivalent with BMOC? That's a good possibility. Thanks for these suggestions. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:02:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF32B6f010972 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:02:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472CB5@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3755232 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:38 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF30bw22621 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:37 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-146.panax.com [65.114.190.146]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF30Zt12969 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:36 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114215825.00b54588@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD46170.16FDAA3F@valstar.net> References: <00a301c28c47$2c009ec0$930332d1@0018079268> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:52 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, alyce wrote: >That would place me in the Silent Generation. Although we were too old >for Vietnam, we were not too old for Korea. My fiance was there for two >years while I was in college. >I never have understood why we were called the Silent Generation. As I >recall, we were not silent then and are not silent now. Well, Steve and others of his cohort have to find somebody to blame--after all, the ills of today certainly can't be the fault of generation... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:02:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF32T6f010975 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:02:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041158B4@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3755245 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:52 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF30pw22643 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:52 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:00:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD46405.DC3A7B80@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:03:33 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: < [inherited] ...the best job > prospects ever, and made a mess of their inheritance I hate generalitzations of entire generations like this. See my post of yesterday. Jobs were scarce and ill-paid where I was. Silent generation is derogatory, which bugs me. It was not my generation that began Vietnam. Although we were too young to fight WW II in the trenches, we fought it at home. I just was thinking last night of writing about how much children of the early '40s participated in the war effort, and wondering who would care to know. I may put it on my web page. And that leads me to say that there should be a permanent resting place for such things. Like if I die and my page goes down, such a memoir should not disappear. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:08:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3856f010993 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:08:06 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472D64@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:05:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3756555 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:05:06 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF356w25280 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:05:06 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:05:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD464FF.4DB5A416@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:43 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <3DD45CB1.CE9FA8FA@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > The big boys? What are we?? We are those to whom one speaks with condescension. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:08:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3856f010992 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:08:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00472D1F@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:03:44 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3755846 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:03:39 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF33dw23680 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:03:39 -0500 Received: from attbi.com ([24.218.151.161]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021115030332.OWVZ2683.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@attbi.com> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:03:32 +0000 Message-ID: <3DD465B0.4090305@attbi.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:10:40 -0500 From: Lisa Alfieri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021114204534.D2FC97C14@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU > > >Why do I need to be gracious when they were treating me like an idiot? >Whoever suggest that I put a rod under the cabinets never asked if >there was room for a rod. (There isn't; what was hanging would block >the dryer dials.) Give me some credit! > > > >>Especially since you haven't been able to >>figure this out for a year. >> >> > >A year and seven months. > >Karen > a year and seven months to figure out what to do with hangers and you can't be graceful when someone makes an idiotic suggestion? whatever. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:08:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF38r6f011003 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:08:53 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041159EB@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757212 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:20 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc03.attbi.com (sccrmhc03.attbi.com [204.127.202.63]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF37Jw26706 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:19 -0500 Received: from attbi.com ([24.218.151.161]) by sccrmhc03.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021115030713.GPBS12823.sccrmhc03.attbi.com@attbi.com> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:07:13 +0000 Message-ID: <3DD4668D.70804@attbi.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:14:21 -0500 From: Lisa Alfieri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021114204620.52D047C11@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: >lisa alfieri said: > > >>At 06:00 AM 11/14/2002 -0600, Natalie Maynor wrote: >> >> >>>lisa alfieri wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Korea, Vietnam and Desert Storm did not improve the economy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>They were also 40-50+ years ago. >>>> >>>>When I learned about these wars in school the impact they had on the >>>> >>>> >>>You learned about Desert Storm in school?? I realize you're young, but >>>that young? >>> >>>-- >>> -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) >>> >>> >>Studied as in looked back and picked out lessons we could learn from it? >>No. Studied as in I was in college majoring in poli sci at the time and >>discussed it in a couple different classes? Yes. >> >> > >Did you learn that it was 40-50+ years ago? > Uh. No. The 40-50 years was a refernce to the Koren War and Vietnam which I seperated in the original post. Natalie was asking about Desert Storm which was 10+ years ago. I know this for sure 'cause I just received a letter from URI suggesting I make a $100 contribution to the school on the 10th anniversary of my graduation. Just for reminding me that it was 10 years ago I'm not sending them anything. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:09:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3906f011006 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:09:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.041159F3@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757247 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:27 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f13.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF37Qw26760 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:27 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:07:21 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:07:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Alyce! Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:07:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2002 03:07:21.0462 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D2FF960:01C28C54] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU The moose munch is here. Yum, lovely dark chocolate pieces. Thanks, Alyce! (You didn't use UPS, which gets you extra brownie points. No need for me to play tag with the delivery person for 3 days before going to pick up the package. I hate having to go the UPS office. weird hours and awful location.) -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:10:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3AT6f011012 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:10:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472DCB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:08:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757329 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:08:56 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF38uw26924 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:08:56 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADG08378; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBE01496; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:08:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:06:31 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD3D817.2016.1AD3338@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <3DD3CC27.27492.17E913B@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Nov 2002 at 20:28, Stephen H Karlson wrote: > It's not really hairsplitting. At 63, she's born in 1939. According to the press reports I've read, she's 62, born in 1940. mem (hairsplitter) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:12:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3CW6f011018 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:12:32 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00472DED@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:10:58 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757412 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:10:59 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3Axw27137 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:10:59 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L00ETEKUAPD@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:10:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:12:12 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Grande Databases To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD4660C.8090104@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <004f01c28c34$f4c78660$930332d1@0018079268> <3DD4603E.964F1699@maynor.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > Am I the only one who has noticed that Rita has some kind of > thing? I can't name the specifics of when I've noticed it in her > postings in the past, but I have noticed it and have found it somehow > amusing -- as if she thinks she'll never hit forty, much less sixty. It > has struck me as a bit odd, though, for somebody who is overall as wise > and withit as I think Rita is overall. I do have an age thing. However, I don't think it is the same age thing you're talking about. I fully expect to hit 40 in oh, 5 1/2 years (won't be long now!). And I'm *terribly* old compared to most of my colleages at UMSL. Ancient according to my students. I'll try to think about and articulate my , but off the top of my head, it has more to do with observing and making fun of the characteristics of being a certain age than being superior at whatever age it is I happen to be at the time I'm making observations. I like being in my 30's, but it isnt' superior to being in my 20's. I like that age, too. Being a teenager just sucks, though. BTW, my university supervisor is publishing a pretty interesting paper about how she's implemented a listserv for student teachers and how it functions as a support mechanism. I can't remember what your exact interest in online communication is specifically, but I thought of you when I read it. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:15:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3Fv6f011078 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:15:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115A92@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:14:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757566 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:14:23 -0500 Received: from imf05bis.bellsouth.net (mail205.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.145]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3ENw27481 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:14:23 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.162.172]) by imf05bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115031604.CCON16940.imf05bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:16:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4667E.E6FA33BB@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:14:06 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > But the best thing to do to help future genealogists is > to keep good records on the important stuff now, and entrust them to > younger family members with an interest in the stuff That's fine if there are younger family members with an interest in the stuff. Presumably their interest might lead them to communicate with lateral branches, etc. But not everybody has younger family members with an interest in the stuff. > > Someday I want to get into the discussion of blogs here. Something > > about having a blog has always struck me as -- what? -- a bit bumptious? > > OK, I'm bumptious. Deal with it. No, I'm not sure whether that's the right word. That's why I added a question mark. And I see no particular reason why I should be commanded to . It's easy enough to blogs, of course, in that it's easy enough to ignore their existence. > Actually, regime change has begun at home. And there's something wrong > with this picture ... moderate, supported the war, African ancestors, Rep. > Ford, not being put forth, so that San Francisco Democrat and Silent > Generation relic, Rep. Pelosi can. Huh? Does "moderate, supported the war, African ancestors" automatically mean one is ? And is everybody who happened to have been born in the years automatically ? -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:16:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3GJ6f011082 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:16:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115A9A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:14:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3756480 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:14:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:las3rquROcX9U3fKT0tjJHbCZ77ig8QO@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF34kw25073 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:04:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D552FE7E for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id C21EB7C1B; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:04:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Outbreak (where's Brad) [was: Re: What a great movie!] In-Reply-To: <3DD45E26.DA8EADC8@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 8:38:30 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:04:45 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115030445.C21EB7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > > I'm trying to remember now what the questions were that we > > > debated re Casey's cord and suit. I saw that part clearly last night > > > but couldn't remember what the questions were. > > > > Wasn't it something about the hole? > > But there wasn't really a hole. His cord got caught because he was very > tired and thus not alert to concerns like catching his cord on > something, and the hung cord pulled the back of his pants off far enough > for the ebola to have zoomed into the area. Huh? I thought these were one-piece suits and the suit was ripped by the respirator hose. Why would the respirator hose be attached to pants? (Unless he breathes through his butt, but that would be unusual.) http://vpr.tamu.edu/forms/Appendix_B4.pdf says "appropriate combinations of personal protective equipment", but doesn't specify one or two piece. It says "Protetcive laboratory clothing such as solid-front or wrap-around gowns, scrub suits, or coveralls must be worn in, and not worn outside, the laboratory." Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:17:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3HO6f011087 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:17:24 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115AAC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:15:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3756695 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:15:50 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HkdAz/Ga0emdCpfDrA8AKHmFW5yhw/8o@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF35nw25619 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:05:49 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5227A2FE7E for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 254FD7C12; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:05:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD45EA5.902BBBAE@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 8:40:37 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:05:49 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115030549.254FD7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > > Are you ever going to explain why a naked hanger takes up more rod space > > > than a clothed hanger does? > > > > It doesn't. It just takes up different space. That is, where I take > > the hanger from, is not necessarily where it goes back to. > > Hmm. So you do move clothes from closet to closet or rod to rod in a > manner. Why? Why do you shuffle your clothes around? It's not chaotic, but I will not detail all my clothes-moving rationales--I am not that bored. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:17:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3Hc6f011091 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:17:39 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115AAF@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:16:05 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757656 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:16:05 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3G5w27664 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:16:05 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust133.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.135]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:16:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD46797.FE4D9C6F@valstar.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:18:47 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Alyce! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rashmi Murthy wrote: > > The moose munch is here. Yum, lovely dark chocolate pieces. Thanks, Alyce! A pleasure. > > (You didn't use UPS, which gets you extra brownie points. No need for me > to play tag with the delivery person for 3 days before going to pick up the > package. I never use UPS for this reason. In truth, I was afraid that you'd have to go to the post office to pick this up. That is why I delayed, looking for a smaller box that I thought might fit into the conventional mailbox. Never did find one, so went for broke in the end. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:19:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3JJ6f011097 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:19:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472E6A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:17:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:17:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:MofxmozWZ6ap8VcpiypLsl9TFTJ7KV/r@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF37kw26798 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:46 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4342FD83 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:07:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id B17EE7C16; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:07:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD3D469.26416.19ED4EB@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 14, 2002 4:50:49 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:07:45 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115030745.B17EE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 14 Nov 2002 at 18:37, Karen Kay wrote: > > > Speaking of oil, why are gas prices so low? > > I guess I must be paying the difference that allows yours to be > low. Really? Prices dropped about a dime since the last time I refilled. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:20:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3Km6f011111 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:20:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472E80@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:19:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757792 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:19:15 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3JEw28015 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:19:15 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L00E3WL827L@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:19:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:20:27 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD467FB.1030106@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Jeez. I'm not really sure what to think of what he has to say about my generation. Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Good question, Mike. > > It's not really hairsplitting. At 63, she's born in 1939. That is the > 1960 draft class, maybe a few people from that class went to Vietnam, but > the buildup was after their hitches were over. > > If you want to find out more about how this generation stuff works, go to > http://www.fourthturning.com > > It's also the case that although all people of a given age range are of an > identifiable generation (marketers and some demographers work that way) > not all people of that age range act or think alike. For example, David > Horowitz's "Destructive Generation" actually refers to younger Silents and > older Boomers who bought into Left arguments. > > >>Seems to me you have to be doing a little hairsplitting to make >>this work for Pelosi. As a woman, she was, of course, in no danger >>of being drafted, but more than a few people her age fought in >>Vietnam. If they volunteered rather than being drafted--or dodging >>the draft--do they escape being in the "Silent Generation"? Are >>some in her age cohort members of that generation while others >>aren't? If that's so, is "generation" the right word? >> > > Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 > http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com > > -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:20:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3Km6g011111 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:20:48 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00472E81@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:19:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757343 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:19:15 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:fKb79ajqzNM/LFeGoFKrcj73y+ex2eMS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF39Fw26962 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:09:15 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB392FDCE for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 86A907C16; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD461DD.E9B93D91@maynor.net> from Natalie Maynor at "Nov 14, 2002 8:54:21 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:09:14 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115030914.86A907C16@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor said: > John Williams wrote: > > Well, there are entire professions that have disappeared. Milkman, file > > clerk, truant officer, clipping service... > > Have milkmen disappeared everywhere in the US? (They have as far as my > personal experience goes, but I'm thinking now about how they still > exist in Japan.) And what about truant officers? Does truancy no > longer exist as a ? I'm trying to think what a file clerk is. > It sounds familiar somehow, but I'm coming up blank in associating that > title with an activity. And what is a clipping service?? I would > assume that to be like a dog groomer. File clerks haven't disappeared. > > Co-ed? BMOC? Anything to do with dorm restrictions? > > Co-ed is a thought. It doesn't really mean anything at all now, does > it? I bet they'd associate it with sports. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:22:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3M36f011119 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:22:03 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115AE8@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:20:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757386 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:20:29 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:HbbxSgqfNEZiTJlCH3+Fig0x0InQt7fd@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3ASw27104 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:10:28 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2822FDBD for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 18C1C7C15; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:10:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD465B0.4090305@attbi.com> from Lisa Alfieri at "Nov 14, 2002 10:10:40 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:10:27 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115031028.18C1C7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Lisa Alfieri said: > a year and seven months to figure out what to do with hangers and you > can't be graceful when someone makes an idiotic suggestion? whatever. Of course not! The fact that I've been struggling with it for so long makes me even more irascible. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:23:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3N06f011125 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:23:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00472EA1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:21:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757890 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:21:27 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3LRw28249 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:21:27 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L002ULLBQB2@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:21:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:22:40 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Survey To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD46880.8060503@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <20021115031028.18C1C7C15@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Lisa Alfieri said: > >>a year and seven months to figure out what to do with hangers and you >>can't be graceful when someone makes an idiotic suggestion? whatever. >> > > Of course not! The fact that I've been struggling with it for so long > makes me even more irascible. I can't even visualize what your problem is. You're on your own, kid. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:23:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3NZ6f011133 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:23:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115B00@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:22:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757933 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:21:59 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3Lxw28311 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:21:59 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADG09025; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBE02165; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:21:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:19:34 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD3DB26.18601.1B9275C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20021115030745.B17EE7C16@yellow.rahul.net> References: <3DD3D469.26416.19ED4EB@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 14, 2002 4:50:49 pm" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Nov 2002 at 19:07, Karen Kay wrote: > Really? Prices dropped about a dime since the last time I refilled. Maybe I should go back and demand a refund from the service station where I bought gas this morning at $1.85 a gallon. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:25:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3P06f011139 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:25:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115B0A@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:23:27 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3757978 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:23:26 -0500 Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3NQw28459 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:23:26 -0500 Received: from swbell.net ([65.66.63.196]) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0H5L00JW8LF1VL@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:23:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:24:39 -0600 From: Rita Chapman Subject: Re: Blech To: English Language Discussion Group Reply-to: rouvalis@swbell.net Message-id: <3DD468F7.60801@swbell.net> Organization: If I Only Had a Brain, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en, el User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 References: <3DD3D469.26416.19ED4EB@localhost> "from Michael E. Macmillan at Nov 14, 2002 4:50:49 pm" <3DD3DB26.18601.1B9275C@localhost> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan wrote: > On 14 Nov 2002 at 19:07, Karen Kay wrote: > > >>Really? Prices dropped about a dime since the last time I refilled. >> > > Maybe I should go back and demand a refund from the service station > where I bought gas this morning at $1.85 a gallon. Prices around here have been remarkably steady for months now. -- Rita Rouvalis Chapman rouvalis@swbell.net, rita@etext.org http://www.etext.org/~rita From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:27:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3Rj6f011145 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:27:46 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00472EF3@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:26:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3758093 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:26:12 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3QCw28733 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:26:12 -0500 Received: from attbi.com ([24.218.151.161]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021115032606.QEMI2683.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@attbi.com> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:26:06 +0000 Message-ID: <3DD46AFB.1090404@attbi.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:33:15 -0500 From: Lisa Alfieri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <20021114235831.705177C10@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I wonder if people under 30 iron or starch. >Karen > I iron when absolutely necessary. But starch? No. My clothes go to the dry cleansers. My mother didn't starch either. She had the same can of starch spray for as long as I can remember. My grandmother used it and I remember watching her iron her jeans with it. As much as I looked up to her, that's one thing I didn't want to emulate. lisa From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:28:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3Sk6f011150 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:28:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115B3D@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:27:14 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3758120 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:27:13 -0500 Received: from imf07bis.bellsouth.net (mail207.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.147]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3RDw28821 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:27:13 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([67.32.248.3]) by imf07bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115032856.XBTJ1269.imf07bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:28:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD46988.AE954568@maynor.net> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:27:04 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <009801c28c45$0d4ae780$0100a8c0@4dj8f01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Alan Wild quoted: > foreign policy will now be the "De Facto Democrats": Colin > Powell, John McCain and the British prime minister, Tony > Blair. They are the only voices that, if raised in > opposition to any Bush foreign policy initiative, could > restrain the president and sway the public. That is not > true of any Democrat today. And this is news? > What the last election showed us is what a deep trauma of > vulnerability 9/11 etched on the American psyche. "While Yep. I think that's quite obvious. As I've said before, whichever party had been in the White House on 9/11/01 would be reaping political bounty for years to come. > It was good advice by the De Facto Democrats, and more > will be needed. Yep. I shudder at the thought of what would be happening without the restraining voices of people like CP in Dubya's ear. > Consider the Predator drone that last week fired a rocket > and wiped out a key Al Qaeda cell in Yemen. With perfect timing also. Interesting article, Alan. I would say more on it, but I've really gotta log off. Just found out I'm having company arriving tomorrow. And I've got tons of other crappola to think about. Can't concentrate very well on matters like The World, which is just as well, I guess, since I feel helpless in the downward spiral anyway. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:30:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3Ue6f011177 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:30:41 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00472F4A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:29:07 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3758348 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:29:07 -0500 Received: from vmmr8.verisignmail.com (vmmr8.verisignmail.com [216.168.230.166]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3T7w28956 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:29:07 -0500 Received: from vmms8.verisignmail.com (vmms8.verisignmail.com [10.166.0.202]) by vmmr8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id ADG09378; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from korean111 (korean111.moore.hawaii.edu [128.171.223.111]) by vmms8.verisignmail.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id EBE02532; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:29:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:42 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Blech Reply-to: mem@noxiousweeds.net Message-ID: <3DD3DCD2.14567.1BFAE15@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3DD468F7.60801@swbell.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Nov 2002 at 21:24, Rita Chapman wrote: > Prices around here have been remarkably steady for months now. I guess I shouldn't complain. It was up close to $2 a gallon not all that long ago. mem From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:51:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3pw6f011257 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:51:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115CC1@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:50:25 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3759272 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:50:25 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:rbOu13B+by9U4NcXtJpX8mv6quhx7W1o@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3oOw31070 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:50:24 -0500 Received: from mauve.rahul.net (mauve.rahul.net [192.160.13.69]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440C52FE87 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 4713) id 21B322B885; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mauve.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070482B882 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:50:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:50:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ann Borkin To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases In-Reply-To: <3DD4603E.964F1699@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Natalie Maynor wrote: > Am I the only one who has noticed that Rita has some kind of > thing? I can't name the specifics of when I've noticed it in her So far, it's just old women. Ann From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:52:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3ql6f011261 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:52:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0047309E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:51:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3758859 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:51:14 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:z5WkGIV4m283LFJxM5tZbL/S1cZKufwD@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3fEw30135 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:41:14 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204462FDEA for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E7F1D7C14; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:41:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Grande Databases In-Reply-To: <3DD4660C.8090104@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 14, 2002 9:12:12 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:41:13 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115034113.E7F1D7C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > I'll try to think about and articulate my , but > off the top of my head, it has more to do with observing and > making fun of the characteristics of being a certain age > than being superior at whatever age it is I happen to be at > the time I'm making observations. That's what I see. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:54:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3sd6f011270 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:54:40 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115CFC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:53:06 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3758956 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:53:06 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:hNvphAMHOaBbFVMgE2dWNTIgvePNOiYm@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3h5w30367 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:43:06 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687A92FDFB for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:43:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 3EEEA7C10; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:43:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD46880.8060503@swbell.net> from Rita Chapman at "Nov 14, 2002 9:22:40 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:43:05 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115034305.3EEEA7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > I can't even visualize what your problem is. You're on your > own, kid. As usual! Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 21:56:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF3uK6f011277 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:56:20 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04115D36@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:54:46 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3759017 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:54:46 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:RVFf8daNDf2GTO4XqK2aiKPnrcPbrzPa@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF3ijw30469 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:44:45 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA3D2FDEB for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 0BF467C11; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:44:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD3DB26.18601.1B9275C@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 14, 2002 5:19:34 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:44:44 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115034445.0BF467C11@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 14 Nov 2002 at 19:07, Karen Kay wrote: > > Really? Prices dropped about a dime since the last time I refilled. > > Maybe I should go back and demand a refund from the service station > where I bought gas this morning at $1.85 a gallon. Eek! I paid $1.20 at Costco, then discovered the Race-Trac was $1.19. Karen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:04:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF4446f011319 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:04:05 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0047321A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:02:31 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3761502 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:02:30 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF42Pw00551 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:02:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAF42NX20499 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:02:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:02:23 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD45CB1.CE9FA8FA@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU More good questions from Natalie (pending end of Islamofascism) > Will you explain to us why you think that end is pending? As an ideology, it has failed to deliver anything to the people. I really wish our government and our press would pay more attention to the unrest in Iran, unless there's something secret going on. (securing the peace) > I don't have any problem understanding what you mean by "successful > completion" in the sense of rebuilding/restructuring. Your Eisenhower > reference says "at the end of the European campaign." What I'm curious > about is your seeming confidence that we will reach a decisive and > to-our-advantage end of the grab-the-oil campaign. It is not a grab-the-oil campaign. Success will be constitutional republics in Palestine, Saudi, Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. Find the weblog run by Little Green Footballs and do some research. > The big boys? What are we?? You're sounding like Giggles that night he > said he was going to dine with his friends! Girls, for the most part. One even asked me if I come around often ;) But I mean no disrespect by that. Does Words-L have Bill Sjostrom's traffic, let alone InstaPundit's? Good night, back on the weekend. Stephen Karlson skarlson@niu.edu *-- 154393 http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:06:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF46L6f011324 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:06:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116184@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:04:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3762534 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:04:45 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF44jw01098 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:04:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAF44hn20607 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:04:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:04:43 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD46170.16FDAA3F@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I don't understand either, given the way the older faculty members on Senate can expound at length on nothing at all. But I'm simply using the terminology from Fourth Turning. SHK > I never have understood why we were called the Silent Generation. As I > recall, we were not silent then and are not silent now. > > alyce > ps ... the production from the Alaskan reserve would replace all of the US imports from Saudi. Riyadh delenda est. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:07:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF47i6f011328 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116284@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:06:11 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3763203 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:06:01 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF461w01430 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:06:01 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18CXjQ-0003gB-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:05:24 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114200222.02d6ac50@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:05:42 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Blogs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU I just happened to be compiling a resource list for learning more about blogs and blogging: . Also, for liberrians, Jenny Levine's "Portals, Blogs, & RSS: why they are your future": . Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:08:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF48n6f011333 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:08:50 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00473347@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:07:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3763582 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:07:16 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF47Fw01658 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:07:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAF47Bx20742 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:07:11 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114215825.00b54588@mail.panax.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Certainly not, because the fifty-and-sixty somethings grabbed most of the plum jobs during an era of rapid economic growth and relatively few competitors. Those of us from the high-birthrate years had a lot more competition. Fortunately, we're up to it. SHK > Well, Steve and others of his cohort have to find somebody to blame--after > all, the ills of today certainly can't be the fault of generation... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:12:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF4CZ6f011349 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:12:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004733E6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:11:01 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3764562 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:11:01 -0500 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF4B1w02317 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:11:01 -0500 Received: from BrandyKitt@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id c.193.10a99f5c (3866) for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:10:44 -0500 (EST) From: BrandyKitt@aol.com Message-ID: <193.10a99f5c.2b05cdc3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:10:43 EST Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] legal question To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU In a message dated 11/14/2002 3:43:47 PM Central Standard Time, elaine.personal.lists@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes: << Lots of lawyers will put a clause into a will >> But joint tenancy has nothing to do with a will (except for the last surviving owner, who can leave the property to anyone he chooses). I wonder if a judge can rule in this case that the joint tenancy become a tenancy in common, in which Fred's share goes to his next-of-kin and Barney's goes to his. I'm enjoying this class, especially the property law part. I wish we could study cases, but we're trying to cram too much into one course. Evelyn Duncan brandykitt@aol.com "This is the crack team that spoils my every plan? I am deeply shamed." -- Spike From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:18:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF4Ig6f011395 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:18:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00473449@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:17:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3764812 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:17:08 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF4H8w02864 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:17:08 -0500 Received: from j0k1m01.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-166.panax.com [65.114.190.166]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF4H6t28073 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:17:07 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114222420.009ff5c0@pop3.norton.antivirus> X-Sender: bonniev/mail.panax.com@pop3.norton.antivirus X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:25:00 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: bonniev Subject: Re: Words In-Reply-To: <3DD42B99.CAA7F2A0@maynor.net> References: <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >I've never been a user of starch with >clothes, except the petticoat years, so I'm not sure. Do people in >general no longer use starch? -- Natalie I have a can of spray starch sitting around here some place. I use it when I iron certain things. --bonniev From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:20:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF4Ka6f011407 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:20:36 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00473461@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:19:02 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3764205 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:19:02 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:CWhx7cRVsAREQiQgArf2SYnBRr9gqEoK@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF492w02003 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:09:02 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2219A2FE61 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id E39C57C12; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:09:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: from Stephen H Karlson at "Nov 14, 2002 10: 7:11 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:09:01 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115040901.E39C57C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Is there a reason why you don't provide citations for your quoted text? Stephen H Karlson said: > Certainly not, because the fifty-and-sixty somethings grabbed most of the > plum jobs during an era of rapid economic growth and relatively few > competitors. Those of us from the high-birthrate years had a lot more > competition. Fortunately, we're up to it. SHK > > > Well, Steve and others of his cohort have to find somebody to blame--after > > all, the ills of today certainly can't be the fault of generation... > Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:48:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF4mU6f011522 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:48:30 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004735FF@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:46:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3765738 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:46:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f170.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.170]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF4kuw05072 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:46:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:46:51 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:46:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Grande Databases Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:46:50 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2002 04:46:51.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[03794CC0:01C28C62] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Steve! >Check out http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com No, thanks. Wading thro' quasi-political (often single-issue blogs) is not my thing. >I have pronounced anathema on the Silent Generation. Repeatedly. Do you have anything more specific than that? -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 22:51:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF4px6f011533 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:51:59 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0047363D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:50:24 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3765794 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:50:25 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f165.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.165]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF4oOw05298 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:50:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:50:19 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:50:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 04:50:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2002 04:50:19.0467 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F90B9B0:01C28C62] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU hee hee. More generation wars! I love it. Does Cheney belong to the Silent Generation? How about POTUS? Is he too young? Stephen H Karlson said: >Certainly not, because the fifty-and-sixty somethings grabbed most of the >plum jobs during an era of rapid economic growth and relatively few >competitors. Those of us from the high-birthrate years had a lot more >competition. Fortunately, we're up to it. SHK > > > Well, Steve and others of his cohort have to find somebody to >blame--after > > all, the ills of today certainly can't be the fault of >generation... > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 23:19:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF5Ju6f011749 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:19:56 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116832@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 0:18:21 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3767373 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:17:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f150.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.150]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF58gw07156 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:08:42 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:08:36 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:08:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Grande Databases Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:08:36 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2002 05:08:36.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D96FE20:01C28C65] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Rita Chapman said: > I'll try to think about and articulate my , but >off the top of my head, it has more to do with observing and >making fun of the characteristics of being a certain age >than being superior at whatever age it is I happen to be at >the time I'm making observations. FWIW, I enjoy Rita's "age thing". Refreshing change from condescension of the you'll-understand-when-you're-older or you've-to-be-a-mother-to-understand kind. -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 23:20:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF5KE6f011754 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:20:14 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00473843@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 0:18:39 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3767559 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:17:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f128.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.128]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF5Dkw07501 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:13:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:13:41 -0800 Received: from 204.183.83.3 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:13:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.183.83.3] From: "Rashmi Murthy" To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Words Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:13:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2002 05:13:41.0254 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3187260:01C28C65] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU JMW: > I both iron *and* starch, but then I'm not "people in general". You >see a lot of it in the store, both spray and concentrate, so somebody >besides me is buying it. JMW my soul bruthuh! I iron *all* my clothes and starch the odd shirt. My clothes are mostly all cotton and I can't imagine not ironing them. I'm extremely lazy about most housework but can't seem to shake off this one habit. (Thanks, mom) -rashmi _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 23:22:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF5Ml6f011762 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:22:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116B38@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 0:21:13 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3767095 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:17:45 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF55aw06951 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:05:36 -0500 Received: from c35206-d (12-232-204-56.client.attbi.com [12.232.204.56]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gAF55YRO011370; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:05:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20021114210733.00a413c0@uclink.berkeley.edu> X-Sender: bclark@uclink.berkeley.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:07:57 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group , WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU From: Betty Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD464FF.4DB5A416@valstar.net> References: <3DD45CB1.CE9FA8FA@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 10:07 PM 11/14/2002 -0500, alyce cresap wrote: >Natalie Maynor wrote: > > The big boys? What are we?? > >We are those to whom one speaks with condescension. He was starting to remind me of JTF. Betty From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 23:31:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF5VP6f011816 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:31:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116C12@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 0:29:51 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3770323 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:29:45 -0500 Received: from mail.xnet.com (quake.xnet.com [198.147.221.67]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF5Tjw10390 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:29:45 -0500 Received: from typhoon.xnet.com (typhoon.xnet.com [198.147.221.66]) by mail.xnet.com (8.9.3+Sun/XNet-3.0R) with ESMTP id XAA19927 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:29:45 -0600 (CST) Received: by typhoon.xnet.com (Postfix, from userid 10045) id A147E38699; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:29:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:29:44 -0600 From: Tushar Samant To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Message-ID: <20021115052944.GA22937@pobox.com> References: <3DD46170.16FDAA3F@valstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 10:04:43PM -0600, Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > ps ... the production from the Alaskan reserve would replace all of the US > imports from Saudi. Riyadh delenda est. The vapors seem to have be approaching the brain really fast ... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 23:38:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF5c86f011838 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:38:09 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116C69@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 0:36:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3770589 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:36:34 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.114]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF5aYw11119 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:36:34 -0500 Received: from Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net ([66.92.160.151]) by mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.13 201-253-122-126-113-20020917) with ESMTP id <20021115053629.JICV21290.mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net@Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:36:29 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021115003638.0314b908@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: elaine.personal.lists@worldnet.att.net@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:38:23 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Elaine M Brennan Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Words In-Reply-To: <002301c28c23$d652f4a0$930332d1@0018079268> References: <20021114193156.65B1B7C14@yellow.rahul.net> <20021114192005.8AAC47C11@yellow.rahul.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20021114120338.035c86c0@mail.istori.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:21 PM 11/14/2002 -0600, Doris wrote: > > > > >and carbon paper > > > > Mimeograph. :) > > > > Pete > >I was thinking of the mimeograph just the other >day, remembering the gooey blue sheets we had >to type the master copy on, and how hard it was >to make corrections, and how unreliable were the >copies we made, and how quickly they blurred >and faded. I am grateful every day for all the >wonderful things we have to work with today. And just earlier tonight I was talking to someone about putting together an exhibit for a convention that'll include mimeograph machines, some wax stencils, maybe even an old Gestetner .... it's amazing how many people I know are nostalgic over things like mimeos (or maybe they just like the recollection of getting high off the fumes....) --Elaine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 23:49:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF5n46f011887 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:49:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116CEC@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 0:47:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3771034 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:47:30 -0500 Received: from flex.com (root@flex.com [206.126.0.13]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF5lTw12253 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:47:29 -0500 Received: from kiawe (adsl-1303.flex.com [206.126.6.22]) by flex.com (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gAF5lSF57316 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:47:28 -1000 (HST) From: "Michael E. Macmillan" Organization: Noxious Weeds To: English Language Discussion Group Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:48:38 -1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect Reply-to: mem@flex.com Message-ID: <3DD3FE16.26210.1058BA@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021114215825.00b54588@mail.panax.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU On 14 Nov 2002 at 22:07, Stephen H Karlson wrote: > Certainly not, because the fifty-and-sixty somethings grabbed most of > the plum jobs during an era of rapid economic growth and relatively > few competitors. Damn! I wonder who got the one I was supposed to have. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Thu Nov 14 23:55:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF5t46f011902 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:55:04 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00473B53@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 0:53:29 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3771315 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:53:30 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.116]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF5rUw12632 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:53:30 -0500 Received: from Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net ([66.92.160.151]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.xx 201-253-122-126-xxx-20020920) with ESMTP id <20021115055305.JHZA13933.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@Single_Malt.worldnet.att.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:53:05 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021115005455.030497d8@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: elaine.personal.lists@worldnet.att.net@ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:55:19 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Elaine M Brennan Subject: Re: [WORDS-L] Words In-Reply-To: <3DD437F2.87578736@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> References: <20021114232408.86A607C10@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 04:55 PM 11/14/2002 -0700, JMW wrote: >Karen Kay wrote: > > > People in general don't even iron any more. > > I both iron *and* starch, but then I'm not "people in general". You >see a lot of it in the store, both spray and concentrate, so somebody >besides me is buying it. me, too. --Elaine From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 00:07:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF67Y6f011982 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:07:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04116E29@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 1:06:00 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3771374 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:06:00 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:Ljs/6uMdOF+WtlPjHu18oS6zDGd4Y5iZ@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF5txw12760 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:55:59 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BF02FD67 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:55:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id DC0DC7C10; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:55:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD3FE16.26210.1058BA@localhost> from "Michael E. Macmillan" at "Nov 14, 2002 7:48:38 pm" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:55:58 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115055558.DC0DC7C10@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Michael E. Macmillan said: > On 14 Nov 2002 at 22:07, Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > Certainly not, because the fifty-and-sixty somethings grabbed most of > > the plum jobs during an era of rapid economic growth and relatively > > few competitors. > > Damn! I wonder who got the one I was supposed to have. LOL. Or mine. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 01:30:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF7U16f012604 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:30:01 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04117459@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 2:28:26 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3777027 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:28:26 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF7SQw22043 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:28:26 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust168.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.170]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:28:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4A2BA.D70C129C@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:31:06 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > It is not a grab-the-oil campaign. [Snort]. > > Girls, for the most part. Gee, the worst kind of people. alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 02:15:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF8Fs6f013004 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:15:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004744C1@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 3:14:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3778235 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:14:19 -0500 Received: from victoria.nb.no (victoria.nb.no [158.39.122.160]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF8EIw24952 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:14:18 -0500 Received: by victoria.nb.no with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4TY32LRD>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:14:25 +0100 Received: from espen-2000.espenore.tk (pc39-110-68.nb.no [128.39.110.68]) by victoria.nb.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 4TY32LRC; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:14:22 +0100 From: "Espen S. Ore" To: English Language Discussion Group X-No-Archive: yes Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021115091320.02a7e970@victoria.nb.no> X-Sender: espeno@victoria.nb.no (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:14:04 +0100 Subject: Re: Procrastination In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20021114095230.00a53ad0@uclink.berkeley.edu> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20021114141103.030f9980@victoria.nb.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 09:52 14.11.2002 -0800 skrev Betty Clark: >At 02:12 PM 11/14/2002 +0100, you wrote: >>I am doing everything else but what I should do: write a paper. Some times >>that is a necessary stage before I start writing, and I hope it is so now >>as well. Instead of writing I have been playing around with my webpages >>and with my new domain: www.espenore.tk >> >>Espen > > >Great photos! What is the name of the Indian? I believe we never agreed - it was discussed on this some years ago. Espen From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 02:53:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAF8ri6f013283 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:53:44 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0047463E@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 3:52:08 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3778732 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:52:09 -0500 Received: from mx0.inoc.net (mx0.inoc.net [64.246.130.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAF8q8w27081 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:52:08 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust30.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.32]) by mx0.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4B656.B83C1C1C@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:54:46 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > ps ... the production from the Alaskan reserve would replace all of the US > imports from Saudi. Don't think so. -- The U.S. Geological Survey estimates the oil that could be extracted would fuel the U.S. market for less than six months. alyce -- From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 06:15:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFCFl6f014200 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:15:47 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00475051@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 7:14:09 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674171 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:14:09 -0500 Received: from imf20bis.bellsouth.net (mail020.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFCE9w25859 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:14:09 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.11]) by imf20bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115121545.YRVC13281.imf20bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:15:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4E509.31EF443B@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:14:01 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Words-L Subject: Footnotes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU So why did footnotes turn into endnotes? When it first started happening, I assumed that endnotes were something to be used in a manuscript going to a printer since the printed pages wouldn't be the same as the typed pages -- iow, the endnotes could become footnotes when being printed. They of course made life much easier for people writing such manuscripts and for students writing papers. I well remember decisions like what to do at the bottom of a particular page -- you still had space for one more line but adding that line would mean needing another footnote, which you wouldn't have room for on that page. What I don't understand is why footnotes pretty much went away, to be replaced by end notes in published books and articles. I hate endnotes. I have to be mightily interested in a particular passage to bother to flip over to the end in search of the endnote. Footnotes are so much more convenient for the reader. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 06:17:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFCHO6f014211 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:17:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00475067@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 7:15:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674200 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:15:47 -0500 Received: from imf20bis.bellsouth.net (mail020.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFCFlw26023 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:15:47 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.11]) by imf20bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115121723.YSVK13281.imf20bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:17:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4E56C.74FAF234@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:15:40 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > It's also the case that although all people of a given age range are of an > identifiable generation (marketers and some demographers work that way) > not all people of that age range act or think alike. My goodness. What an amazing observation. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 06:18:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFCIu6f014216 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:18:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0047507A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 7:17:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674223 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:17:20 -0500 Received: from imf20bis.bellsouth.net (mail020.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFCHJw26170 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:17:19 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.11]) by imf20bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115121856.YTTJ13281.imf20bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:18:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4E5C9.C6968BC8@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:17:13 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: <3DD46405.DC3A7B80@valstar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU alyce cresap wrote: > I may put it on my web page. And that > leads me to say that there should be a permanent resting place for such > things. Like if I die and my page goes down, such a memoir should not > disappear. Bernard died over four years ago, but his web page lives on: http://walt.cs.msstate.edu/~maynor/ -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 06:20:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFCKn6f014237 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:20:49 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00475092@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 7:19:12 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674269 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:19:12 -0500 Received: from imf20bis.bellsouth.net (mail020.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.60]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFCJCw26371 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:19:12 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.11]) by imf20bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115122048.YUWG13281.imf20bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:20:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4E639.7ACDAA7@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:19:05 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Outbreak (where's Brad) [was: Re: What a great movie!] References: <20021115030445.C21EB7C1B@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > something, and the hung cord pulled the back of his pants off far enough > > for the ebola to have zoomed into the area. > > Huh? I thought these were one-piece suits and the suit was ripped by > the respirator hose. Why would the respirator hose be attached to > pants? (Unless he breathes through his butt, but that would be > unusual.) Hmm. Good questions. I bet this is indeed what we were debating before. What appeared to be the pulling off of the back of the pants was the ripping of a hole. I wish I'd taped it. I need to watch it again. Bet it's easily findable at rental places. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 06:24:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFCO66f014248 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:24:07 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04117B5F@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 7:22:30 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3674394 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:22:29 -0500 Received: from imf20bis.bellsouth.net (mail120.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.80]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFCMTw27410 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:22:29 -0500 Received: from maynor.net ([66.156.167.11]) by imf20bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with ESMTP id <20021115122405.YWVA13281.imf20bis.bellsouth.net@maynor.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD4E6FF.44C38969@maynor.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:22:23 -0600 From: Natalie Maynor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Survey References: <20021115030549.254FD7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > > Hmm. So you do move clothes from closet to closet or rod to rod in a > > manner. Why? Why do you shuffle your clothes around? > > It's not chaotic, but I will not detail all my clothes-moving > rationales--I am not that bored. I find topics of that kind quite interesting. I would write a more compelling argument to try to convince you to tell, but I need to turn off the computer. I hate having to abandon a big pile of new list mail as yet unread, especially since I'm not sure when I'll be able to get back to it. My guess is late afternoon -- that my RRB&SIL, who say they're getting here around 5, will be much later and that I can sit here doing e-mail while waiting for them. If they aren't late, however, it may be much later in the weekend before I get a chance to return. So y'all hold it down on the interestingness for a while. -- -- Natalie (natalie@maynor.net) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 07:56:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFDuT6f014730 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:56:29 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00475730@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 8:54:50 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3678832 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:54:51 -0500 Received: from argos.hmdns.net (argos.hmdns.net [64.247.38.2]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFDspw08004 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:54:51 -0500 Received: from 12-236-52-68.client.attbi.com ([12.236.52.68] helo=Peter) by argos.hmdns.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18CgvC-0003WG-00 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:54:11 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021115055349.03115a10@mail.istori.com> X-Sender: kaminski@mail.istori.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 05:54:35 -0800 To: English Language Discussion Group From: Peter Kaminski Subject: Re: Survey In-Reply-To: <3DD4E6FF.44C38969@maynor.net> References: <20021115030549.254FD7C12@yellow.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - argos.hmdns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - listserv.uga.edu X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - istori.com Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor writes, >I find topics of that kind quite interesting. This is probably the reason that Words-L works. :) Pete From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:05:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFE5D6f014801 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:05:13 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004757FA@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:03:35 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3679365 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:03:35 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFE3Uw09574 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:03:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAFE3On06715 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:03:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:03:24 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <20021115040901.E39C57C12@yellow.rahul.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Because I'm not verbose. Read _The Fourth Turning_. Read _When Generations Collide_. SHK > Is there a reason why you don't provide citations for your quoted text? > > > Certainly not, because the fifty-and-sixty somethings grabbed most of the > > plum jobs during an era of rapid economic growth and relatively few > > competitors. Those of us from the high-birthrate years had a lot more > > competition. Fortunately, we're up to it. SHK > > > > > Well, Steve and others of his cohort have to find somebody to blame--after > > > all, the ills of today certainly can't be the fault of generation... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:07:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFE7C6f014813 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:07:12 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00475824@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:05:34 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3679439 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:05:34 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFE5Yw09851 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:05:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAFE5Tb06826 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:05:29 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:05:28 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Grande Databases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Sometimes, you have to do the wading, m'dear. In brief: see the readings I recommended to Karen for the sources of my specifics. SHK > >Check out http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com > > No, thanks. Wading thro' quasi-political (often single-issue blogs) is not > my thing. > > >I have pronounced anathema on the Silent Generation. Repeatedly. > > Do you have anything more specific than that? From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:11:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFEBv6f014830 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:11:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00475891@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:10:19 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3679902 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:10:20 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFE98w10713 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:09:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAFE93l06945 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:09:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:09:03 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD4B656.B83C1C1C@valstar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Read my post again, please. SHK > > ps ... the production from the Alaskan reserve would replace all of the US > > imports from Saudi. > > Don't think so. > -- The U.S. Geological Survey estimates the oil that could be extracted > would fuel the U.S. market for less than six months. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:12:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFECb6f014833 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:12:37 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.004758A4@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:10:59 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3679957 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:10:59 -0500 Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (ta0shk1@corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFEAxw11254 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:10:59 -0500 Received: from localhost (ta0shk1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id gAFEAkD07056 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:10:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:10:46 -0600 (CST) From: Stephen H Karlson To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Footnotes In-Reply-To: <3DD4E509.31EF443B@maynor.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU But less convenient for the typesetter. (Although, with modern writing programs such as Scientific Workplace, that excuse loses force). SHK. > What I don't understand is why footnotes pretty much went away, to be > replaced by end notes in published books and articles. I hate > endnotes. I have to be mightily interested in a particular passage to > bother to flip over to the end in search of the endnote. Footnotes are > so much more convenient for the reader. From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:31:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFEVP6f014959 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:31:25 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00475AB6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:29:47 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3681051 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:29:47 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFETlw14329 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:29:47 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-151.panax.com [65.114.190.151]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFETjt05136 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:29:46 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021115090530.00b34530@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:19:33 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Footnotes In-Reply-To: <3DD4E509.31EF443B@maynor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 06:14 AM 11/15/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >So why did footnotes turn into endnotes? I've never seen a formal explanation. In much of scientific publication, i.e., journal articles, symposia, footnotes are discouraged---the notion being that relevant explanation belongs in the text. My guess is that it is typographically simpler, probably cheaper, to collect all of the footnotes in one place and print them in a more space-saving font. I noticed that Richard Dawkins, in his series of books on genetics and evolution, makes very effective use of endnotes. HIs method allows the flow of the argument to proceed while providing the greater, sometimes excruciating, detail in one place for those who want it. > Footnotes are so much more convenient for the reader. That, like art and obscenity, is in the eye of the beholder. I find footnotes jarring. I also don't like the form used by some science publications of using small superscript numbers to denote references. It all depends on how one was trained, I suppose. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:31:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFEVR6f014962 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:31:27 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00475AB8@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:29:49 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3681057 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:29:49 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFETnw14339 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:29:49 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-151.panax.com [65.114.190.151]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFETlt05152 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:29:47 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021115092823.00b53ed8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:29:40 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect In-Reply-To: <3DD4B656.B83C1C1C@valstar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 03:54 AM 11/15/2002 -0500, alyce wrote: >Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > > > ps ... the production from the Alaskan reserve would replace all of the US > > imports from Saudi. > >Don't think so. >-- The U.S. Geological Survey estimates the oil that could be extracted >would fuel the U.S. market for less than six months. Yeah, but the USGS probably hasn't read the most recent blog on the subject... Besides, the USGS is run by those old farts... From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:45:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFEjr6f015020 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:45:54 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00475C9B@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:44:15 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3683042 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:44:16 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFEiFw17197 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:44:15 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5MGTO02.HGN for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:41:48 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD5093B.3C667C48@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:48:27 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Blech References: <20021115023719.AFCEC7C18@yellow.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Karen Kay wrote: > Speaking of oil, why are gas prices so low? According to the WSJ European preference for diesel - speaking of a proper noun that has become generic - results in an overproduction of regular petrol, which they then ship over here, and pass the savings on to you. JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 08:49:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFEn06f015032 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:49:00 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <2.00475D0C@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 9:47:22 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3683447 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:47:22 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f75.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.75]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFElMw18019 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:47:22 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:47:17 -0800 Received: from 198.242.81.198 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:47:16 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.242.81.198] From: "Marie Ascher" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Re: Words Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:47:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2002 14:47:17.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[E48B2A50:01C28CB5] Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU >From: bonniev >>I've never been a user of starch with >>clothes, except the petticoat years, so I'm not sure. Do people in >>general no longer use starch? -- Natalie > >I have a can of spray starch sitting around here some place. I use it when >I iron certain things. I use it for my Taekwondo uniform on test days, of which today is one. (No sweat though, I'm repeating the early belts). Marie _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:05:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFF5w6f015127 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:05:58 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00475FA6@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:04:20 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685796 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:04:14 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu (titan.mc.maricopa.edu [140.198.72.55]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFF4EJ23267 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:04:14 -0500 Received: from mail.mc.maricopa.edu ([140.198.236.69]) by mail.mc.maricopa.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H5MHQZ01.AGL for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:01:47 -0700 Message-ID: <3DD50DEA.257FC57B@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:08:26 -0700 From: "John Williams" Organization: Mesa Community College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: Words References: <200211141738.gAEHceb18669@Ra.MsState.Edu> <3DD43D79.F9A194D9@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> <3DD461DD.E9B93D91@maynor.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Natalie Maynor wrote: > I'm trying to think what a file clerk is. > It sounds familiar somehow, but I'm coming up blank in associating that > title with an activity. Someone who filed , generally in alphabetical order. Actually, they still exist. Every doctor and veterinarian's office I've been in still has color-coded paper files. What's with that? > And what is a clipping service?? Back in the Dear Dead Days there were companies who hired legions of women to scan +every+ publication printed in English in this country, searching for any mention of their clients or anything else said clients were willing to pay for. I used to work for one, the bastards. (Even though they paid me more money than an imprudent twenty-something could spend. It was educational, still, and got me off the shop floor at International Metals.) JMW From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:08:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFF8F6f015134 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:08:15 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00475FE2@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:06:37 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3684451 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:06:37 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:F6YVJJ+6YdwB8Tx1i7oCbPEHJzyiqAwS@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFEubw20034 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:56:37 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CA22FE4A for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 6A6077C22; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:56:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Grande Databases In-Reply-To: from Stephen H Karlson at "Nov 15, 2002 8: 5:28 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:56:36 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115145636.6A6077C22@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson said: > Sometimes, you have to do the wading, m'dear. In brief: see the readings > I recommended to Karen for the sources of my specifics. SHK Karen?! How did I get into this???? I still can't tell who you're quoting below, btw. Top-posting doesn't improve the situation. > > >Check out http://coldspringshops.blogspot.com > > > > No, thanks. Wading thro' quasi-political (often single-issue blogs) is not > > my thing. > > > > >I have pronounced anathema on the Silent Generation. Repeatedly. > > > > Do you have anything more specific than that? > Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:10:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFFAZ6f015144 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:10:35 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0047603D@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:08:56 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3684770 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:08:57 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:tvFnHLfW4XVkZVcRsDt8pvRG2yKiGESc@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFEwuw20699 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:58:56 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0362FE52 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 10FA57C12; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:58:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Blech In-Reply-To: <3DD5093B.3C667C48@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> from John Williams at "Nov 15, 2002 7:48:27 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:58:55 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115145855.10FA57C12@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU John Williams said: > Karen Kay wrote: > > Speaking of oil, why are gas prices so low? > > According to the WSJ European preference for diesel - speaking of a > proper noun that has become generic - results in an overproduction of > regular petrol, which they then ship over here, and pass the savings on > to you. I guess it is a global economy... I was wondering if it reflected confidence in the economy. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:13:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFFDX6f015158 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:13:33 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04118D4C@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:11:55 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3685360 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:11:55 -0500 Received: from pink.rahul.net (IDENT:w8wxmHYG6u2tYvAlOywdQ9hK72Q6dQyl@pink.rahul.net [66.237.72.7]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFF1tw22316 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:01:55 -0500 Received: from yellow.rahul.net (yellow.rahul.net [192.160.13.18]) by pink.rahul.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC56D2FE4E for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by yellow.rahul.net (Postfix, from userid 2781) id 949197C14; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:01:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Footnotes In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20021115090530.00b34530@mail.panax.com> from "clyde w. voigtlander" at "Nov 15, 2002 9:19:33 am" To: WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:01:54 -0800 (PST) X-no-archive: yes From: Karen Kay X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20021115150154.949197C14@yellow.rahul.net> Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU clyde w. voigtlander said: > I noticed that Richard Dawkins, in his series of books on genetics and > evolution, makes very effective use of endnotes. HIs method allows the > flow of the argument to proceed while providing the greater, sometimes > excruciating, detail in one place for those who want it. This is the best use of endnotes, IMHO. > > Footnotes are so much more convenient for the reader. > > That, like art and obscenity, is in the eye of the beholder. I find > footnotes jarring. I also don't like the form used by some science > publications of using small superscript numbers to denote references. It > all depends on how one was trained, I suppose. Or what sources one has been dependent on.:) I got used to all of these styles in grad school, and I'm comfortable with all of them. Karen "If at the end of a war story you feel uplifted, or if you feel that some small bit of rectitude has been salvaged from the larger waste, then you have been made the victim of a very old and terrible lie. There is no rectitude whatsoever. There is no virtue." --Tim O'Brien From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:16:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFFGg6f015189 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:16:42 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00476143@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:15:03 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3687565 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:15:03 -0500 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFFEbJ26485 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:14:42 -0500 Received: (from maynor@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.11.6/8.10.2/ra_1.18); id gAFFDvx27507 for words-l@listserv.uga.edu; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:13:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:13:58 -0600 (CST) From: Natalie Maynor Message-Id: <200211151513.gAFFDvx27507@Ra.MsState.Edu> To: words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Subject: Dumb Sports Question Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Who exactly are the Harlem Globetrotters? I've heard of them all of my life, am aware that they are a basketball team, and assume that they're based in Harlem. But I don't really understand what kind of basketball team. I thought they did things like basketball -- as in demonstrating cutsey dribbling or shooting balls while standing on one's head or stuff like that. I didn't know they played real games. I gather, however, that the game they played here last night was a regular game. (I was just reading a write-up of it in the Starkville Daily News, which is how I got interested in this topic.) Are they some kind of non-college team that plays college teams for kicks? Do they normally lose them? Iow, are they something like a professional creampuff that makes money by offering itself up in various places? I'll try to remember to ask people at lunch today and thus will perhaps have the answer before I read list mail again. But I may not remember to ask. I need to ask a restaurant question and am not sure I can hold two questions in my head at the same time. --Natalie Maynor (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:17:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailgw.cc.uga.edu (mailgw.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.101]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFFHK6f015195 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:17:21 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by mailgw.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.04118DF9@mailgw.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:15:42 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3687641 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:15:42 -0500 Received: from mx1.inoc.net (mx1.inoc.net [64.246.131.30]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFFFgJ26746 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:15:42 -0500 Received: from valstar.net (cust153.as1-gtown.valstar.net [64.246.150.155]) by mx1.inoc.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.3.232) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:15:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3DD51039.1D4419D3@valstar.net> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:18:17 -0500 From: alyce cresap Organization: http://www.alybooks.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-{C-UDP; 1D-FSTD} (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: English Language Discussion Group Subject: Re: You Are s Suspect References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Stephen H Karlson wrote: > > Because I'm not verbose. Read _The Fourth Turning_. Read _When > Generations Collide_. SHK But why? Why are you quoting Straus and Howe as gospel? What is it about their books that makes you a believer in their "seasons" theory? alyce From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:28:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFFSv6f015230 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:28:57 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.004762BB@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:27:18 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688711 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:27:19 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFFRJJ29479 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:27:19 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-151.panax.com [65.114.190.151]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFFRHt16952 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:27:17 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021115101633.00b55210@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:19:42 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Footnotes In-Reply-To: <20021115150154.949197C14@yellow.rahul.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20021115090530.00b34530@mail.panax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 07:01 AM 11/15/2002 -0800, karen wrote: >Or what sources one has been dependent on.:) I got used to all of >these styles in grad school, and I'm comfortable with all of them. That's pretty much what I meant by "training." Most of the stuff I read was footnote-free and used the author/date method of reference. Things like Science use the superscript method for references---and in a publication like that, I can understand it, but I never really liked it. cwv From owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU Fri Nov 15 09:33:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from malibu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by gtoal.com (8.12.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id gAFFXB6f015275 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:33:11 -0600 Received: from listserv.cc.uga.edu (128.192.1.75) by malibu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.0047631A@malibu.cc.uga.edu>; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:31:32 -0500 Received: from LISTSERV.UGA.EDU by LISTSERV.UGA.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 3688967 for WORDS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:31:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.panax.com (mail2.panax.com [63.163.40.22]) by listserv.cc.uga.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFFVXJ30213 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:31:33 -0500 Received: from D15GWD11.panax.com (iprs1-65-114-190-151.panax.com [65.114.190.151]) by mail2.panax.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAFFVVt17785 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:31:32 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021115102759.00b5fda8@mail.panax.com> X-Sender: cwv@mail.panax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:31:27 -0500 To: English Language Discussion Group From: "clyde w. voigtlander" Subject: Re: Dumb Sports Question In-Reply-To: <200211151513.gAFFDvx27507@Ra.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-words-l@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU At 09:13 AM 11/15/2002 -0600, natalie wrote: >Who exactly are the Harlem Globetrotters? I've heard of them >all of my life, am aware that they are a basketball team, and >assume that they're based in Harlem. But I don't really >understand what kind of basketball team. I thought they did >things like basketball -- as in demonstrating cutsey >dribbling or shooting balls while standing on one's head or >stuff like that. You are correct, except that the name comes simply from the team comprising blacks (it was founded by a Jew). For the most part, they simply entertainment, usually playing against a team also part of the Globetrotters organization (and fully aware of the